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We don’t hear much about the hole in the ozone layer anymore. That’s because we’ve all but fixed it, thanks to consumer choices and a massive international agreement called the Montreal Protocol. Can we learn anything from this environmental success story that will help us fix climate change?
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[@brammeijboom1873]

Time to update the vid, seems like some country just keeps pumping out CFC's. www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44738952 So yeah, thats what a non binding accord is worth to the rest of the world, nothing...

[@brammeijboom1873]

Ah, nope, not this time. They have been using the CFC's with full knowledge of the international ban on them. They just don't give a sh*t about that, its cheaper and easier to use the CFC's then an alternative. So, now what?

[@haitchsinghsingh1351]

www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44738952

[@FondyCrew]

Nobody talks about the real problem, methane. Is it because it threatens a real commodity, bacon and beef?

[@iridios6127]

+ + - Sparka J 3 things do nothing (bad) on this planet : 1. CFC 2. Global warming (dosen`t even exist) 3. Jew (most of them).

[@andi8p569]

"Imagine a world where you couldn't go outside for 5min without fear of a serious sunburn." That is exactly the world i live in.

[@gcooper642]

Andi8P fellow redhead?

[@andi8p569]

G Cooper No, just pale AF

[@casesusa]

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[@im_aleey]

Need some more melanin

[@ra-wj1wl]

Andi8P i live in cental india. Quite horrible here during summer.

[@kimberlymas586]

"In a shocking twist for humanity...we did the right thing." hahaha

[@TommoCarroll]

Haha 🤣

[@fCauneau]

Franck Rosser, limiting human specy may be the next step you know... whatever the way of life you promote (even living as a pure animal specy), there is still a limit.

[@fCauneau]

Kimberly : yes, applause for the joke ;-) but have some tears on Science grave.

[@TheChadPad]

I was with ya right up until tobacco. I see that as a freedom people should have as individuals, like marijuana. They have risks, and you use with caution knowing them. Until they're causing a global problem, government should stay out of my herb cabinet

[@arjunnava]

Well.. when you see it this way, it would make sense. Converting from CFC to a completely new chemical compound also paves the way to new patent rights that allow the first company to completely take over the market atleast for some time. Its profit and either way they need to design new products to keep consumers happy. Its a WIN WIN.. so corporations pushed the government to satisfy their own needs. Fossil fuels.... thats another story.. which is why you dont see any company pushing hard to sell their products at affordable rates to consumers.

[@Jaxv3r]

Man I just remembered crying as a kid, when I first heard about ozone layer I cried and also "planet X" was going to kill us all... Oh god.

[@FelipeKana1]

I miss planet X stuff kkkkk By the way are we ever going to find planet 9?..

[@benawake4eva273]

Me too☹️

[@sbefunnypls]

if global warming isin’t real, then why did club penguin shut down?

[@MemeLord-nu8mi]

NPC #34254334 Response: r/woooosh

[@greenspacedorito1448]

NPC #34254334 Response: u just got woooshed

[@dfeller7]

Listen kids this young lady has not been told the truth. Dig deeper and you will find the truth.

[@Paperkidja]

Asking the real questions

[@Ivan.A.Churlyuski]

Because we are coming out of an ice age...which has given way to the advancement of our species, yet our smart people think that stopping the warming and sending us into another ice age extinction event sooner is the proper solution.

[@TheSpiralProgression]

“Imagine a World where you couldn’t go outside for 5min without risk for a serious sunburn” Welcome to Australia M8

[@samm9717]

The Supreme Xtream or NZ, when you get burned , in 5 min, and can't even see the sun.

[@TheSpiralProgression]

NZ and Aussie are so close, it might as well not even matter the difference. They're both within the Continent of Oceania anyways.

[@joshuasteinke2588]

The Supreme Xtream Australia _is_ the continent, mate.

[@TheSpiralProgression]

The Whole Tectonic Plate is Oceania. Just like the Caribbean is still a part of America, being part of its plate and all.

[@caseyb1346]

Sorry about that ozone hole Austrailia. If it makes you feel better we should have it all patched up in about 50 years. Hang in there~!

[@LauriXjane]

Technically we didn't FIX the ozone, we just stopped producing CFCs. The ozone is FIXING itself in the absence of the chemical.

[@kalisticmodiani2613]

Lauren Herring, how did we fix our headache ? We just stopped hitting ourselves on the head.

[@mustwereallydothis]

Lauren Herring good point. It's a mistake to think we are "saving the planet" when we are simply saving ourselves. We may become extinct but the planet is way more resiliant than we are and will recover just fine once we have made it completely inhospitable to human life and all died off. The planet will be just fine. We might not.

[@minecraftminertime]

Kalistic Modiani most headaches aren't caused by hitting ourselves in the head. 50% of all headaches have no clear cause, and the other 50% has clear causes, and most of them don't have to do with hitting your head.

[@andresarancio6696]

It is a good point really, if you are constantly stabbing your hand with a fork and stop to let it heal, you are not fixing your hand, you are just not hurting it anymore

[@JUanHernandezism]

That logic is why so many people don't care about reducing greenhouse gases, "we can't change the Earth, what happens to the Earth has nothing to do with us."

[@komalzia6566]

I remember I used to worry a lot about ozone as a child. Never knew the problem got fixed.

[@cfo875]

Or never existed

[@natas8256]

Ozone makes holes and heals them naturally! The same scientists said the ozone wouldn’t heal till 2050

[@major_kukri2430]

@@cfo875 Another conspiracy theorist. lol Let me ask you something. How Do you explain the clear correlation between the banning of CFCs and the replenishment of ozone? Also how do you explain away the countless laboratory tests that conclusively showed the effects of CFCs on ozone?

[@cfo875]

@@major_kukri2430 Research on Dupont, and CFCs patent validity about to end in the 90s . CFCs are heavier than air. As the saying goes, to understand many things just follow the money. Wake up, man!

[@rorypike1541]

@@major_kukri2430 Sorry dude, coincidence doesn't equal correlation.

[@mrflipkin5999]

“Imagine a world where you couldn’t go outside for more than 5 minutes without getting a serious sunburn.” Wait what you live in Australia as well?

[@Mushroom1882]

I started riding a bike to work instead of driving a car. Then I realized biking is way, way, way more efficient than I thought and things still aren't very far away - and its good for me.

[@zentouro]

biking is such a great way to get around :D

[@TommoCarroll]

Win win win win win! Bicycles are so great! Plus, if things are a bit further afield - jump on the train _with_ your bike and then you're sorted! How far do you cycle a day?

[@luongmaihunggia]

I don't know how to ride a bike, motorcycle or drive a car so I walk instead. Lol

[@bullseye6969]

Mushroom1882 i was using bike from last 15 years. Then I shifted to E-bike then I realised it's way, way, way affordable and logical.

[@bottlekruiser]

Biking is good I like it But if the air quality is bad enough, it can be not so good

[@TommoCarroll]

Because there's a *hole* load of other problems that have decided to pop up? 🤣 I ap-hole-ogise for the joke...

[@frontiermusic5187]

Oop there it is!

[@WizardToby]

Oh lord..... smh

[@TommoCarroll]

Come on now WizardToby, it's a well known fact that Wizards *LOVE* a good old pun!

[@NicklasUlvnas]

There. Go. Just go.

[@TommoCarroll]

Ah but the internet has no door, it just has plenty of space for more and more puns :)

[@CassandraBankson]

*This gives me hope for humanity*

[@enriqueva6688]

If she breathes...

[@robertojaimes4234]

Bet that you watch Top 10 Humanity is destroying Mother Nature, and your hope is gone.

[@user-lf2ui7mn1f]

There's no hope for humanity, mankind will destroy the Earth sooner or later.

[@surge5240]

Hopeless

[@fressejetzt840]

Cassandra Bankson it really shouldnt xd

[@NotSmartAmber]

The Sun is a deadly laser

[@mikoartz5006]

Hahaha i get it its a refrence from a video i forgot

[@hakatepumba8172]

''the story of the world , i guess''

[@essem4979]

Not anymore there's a blanket, but humans damaged it

[@hakatepumba8172]

And whooosh , deadly lasers.

[@flu-unwiserharp4-358]

Ha

[@vmutuma]

I remember when I was in primary school in the 1980s a lot of talk about the depletion of the ozone layer, rising sea levels and global warming.

[@mazenelgabalawy3966]

FINALLY, I have been waiting for a video about this for months

[@TommoCarroll]

Damn, we should have got there first! Haha, tell us what video you're waiting for next time and we'll try and get it done for you dude :p

[@tina7151]

If remember correctly didnt the USA dropped the Paris agreement thingy?

[@xoxorini]

Yes they did

[@mrbiscuits915]

Ah america....leading the world.... straight down the shitter

[@jasonbox4135]

mr biscuits riight... considering the biggest offenders China and India where getting away with mass polluting than anything the u.s. can do. Also the accord would put the financial burden on the u.s but countries like India and China get away with no consequences. Plus volcanoes put out more co2 than what humans had done in our entire history.

[@brianpaulin3300]

mr biscuits co2 is just a trace gas water vapor is the real greenhouse gas

[@KennethHuntington1]

I have a novel idea; why don't we take all influencing factors on climate change equally seriously to expand our science economy and not destroy our future by getting stuck in a dogmatic political choice-paralysis? So far, all arguments are collectively leading us to be the so-called frog in the pot of boiling water.

[@michaelholsapple1698]

0:07 it's called being ginger

[@lauraweiss7875]

Another atmospheric “win” the was EPA Clean Air and Water Act which has really reduced acid rain. When I drive through the Eastern US now compared to when I was young (I’m 55 now), there are so many fewer dead and dying forests. Scrubbers and a switch to low sulfur coal instead of ignoring the problem for the sake of quick profits solved the problem.

[@agnesd2086]

Laura Weiss

[@iflycessnas4707]

Wish the big companies and the governments thought the same way

[@dylanf3108]

Thanks Nixon

[@Drakemiser]

Oh yeah. Acid rain. More hippy bullshit.

[@SmartinatorPlus]

Whaaat CFC eats Ozone for *breakfast* ???

[@azurelong5849]

yeah, the breaking of the layer went fast

[@mustwereallydothis]

Actually, it eats them for breakfast, lunch, dinner and snacks, but, where I live at least, the term, "eats them for breakfast" refers to something or someone who completely overpowers something or someone else. Hope that helps.

[@bottlekruiser]

You didn't see the pun. But your explanation of the phrase is great. Have a nice day :^)

[@SmartinatorPlus]

Tara Wright boy !! was I just trying to make a pun and people think that I'm weak at language

[@mustwereallydothis]

Science with Smartinator Plus, sorry to offend. Perhaps making puns isn't one of your strengths. Keep trying. You'll get better at it.

[@Cabalex]

psh just use flex tape, it's the super strong water tight seal that prevents a whole lotta damage

[@Ghosti_47]

I've seen this video almost a year ago. Yesterday my teacher asked what is CFC. I answered him and he gave me 15 marks. Thank you

[@Ghosti_47]

Andrew Potter Bruh

[@Drakemiser]

Indoctrination.

[@djbslectures]

Profit to be made by innovation that helps the environment? Why aren't we exploring this for climate change more?

[@BeCurieUs]

They are mostly cheap because we ignore the damages, though. Most wonks agree that when you factor in externalities from climate and health, they aren't THAT much cheaper, if cheaper at all. It is one of those private profits and socialized damages problems that markets handle poorly.

[@ShannaCarlson525]

It's also cheap because the infrastructure to get fossil fueled energy to consumers is already in place. Transitioning to something like solar and wind requires massive amounts of investment in physical structures to replace the same amount of energy that traditional methods already provide that is already paid for.

[@CarFreeSegnitz]

Shanna Wheeler "...massive amounts of investment..." in other words money would need to flow. Sounds like an opportunity for someone to make money. You can tell which side of the debate someone is by the language they use. "Cost the economy" and "invest in the future" are both code for "money will need to be spent". The former is negative... "cost" is money flushed away, burned, benefitting no one. The latter is a virtue, money is "saved", future generations will benefit. But they describe the same thing, everyone will be expected to pay into the project without immediate return.

[@RoScFan]

Shanna Wheeler Not if we make liquid sun light aka biofuels.

[@BeCurieUs]

I don't think that is a fair characterization of someones criticisms of additional costs of renewables being sometimes problematic. It is important to consider because it represents a new cost of a new system while also having to maintain bits of the old system while the new system gets built out. We see echos of this in Germany where they actually had to scale back renewable deployments because of rising costs and political backlash from incumbent placers (notably coal). While you are right, it is an opportunity to make money for someone, like all spending, it is an opportunity cost as well, and double spending on energy will have a cost. That is not to say we shouldn't do it, we should, just that it also helps to listen to wonks when they suggest doing A instead of B because it would save money. ect ect

[@valentia1752]

Science alert recently posted an article about there being an increase in CFC emissions in some country around the area where China is located

[@KnightofAntiquity]

Animalgirl 00 China gives no fucks ever

[@KnightofAntiquity]

Tobias Johansson he is saying its china

[@balashibuyeeter2704]

India?

[@ryanhill906]

What, CHINA? No way! I can't believe they would not be held to the same environmental standards as the US. *gasp*

[@Nidhi23111983]

Thanks.... After so many videos on how we are depleting earth... I always got more worried and depressed... I am so thankful to you... I finally saw something improving.... My hope is not lost... With this example, I am a little at peace that people like me are working towards it!!! Thanks a ton!!

[@CarbonRadio]

I love these videos. Hot Mess, keep doing what you're doing.

[@franticranter]

This gives me hope that the same can happen with climate change

[@BartJBols]

It will, as a fact any engineering problem that on a scale of time has become increasingly profitable to solve has become increasingly likely to be solved. Climate change has been very profitable lately, and its only just getting started.

[@PistonAvatarGuy]

Climate change hasn't been an engineering problem for a while now, it's purely a political problem.

[@taibhsear71]

Hope. It is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength and your greatest weakness. Just keeping clinging to it until the end, which is only a few years away for about 5 billion people.

[@darthrevan5976]

oldgranny athlete yeah

[@oliverwilson11]

The opportunities for profit are in climate change adaptation, not prevention. All the money for prevention comes from governments (& a tiny bit from NGOs)

[@Cythil]

How we manage to handle the issues caused by CFCs make me very hopeful that we actually can turn the trend with greenhouse gases. And I feel a bit of hope is something we often need when we talk about global warming.

[@livedandletdie]

Bob Bobbertson, I see you are also an intellectual. Now if we compared the Water vapor to CO2 and CH4 in the atmosphere, people might finally realize which gas is the culprit. Damn you water, making it hotter and hotter on this planet. Hopefully one day, we won't have any more winters.

[@davidmiles]

I reject the assumption that the earth's current temperatures are the most optimal. The earth has warmed substantially since the ice age, all independent of human contributions. Why people believe that the current temperatures are the most optimal is beyond me.

[@Cythil]

Depends on what you mean by optimal. But the general stance is that we say it optimal now for the life that is around now, because it has adapted for the current condition's. The real problem is not even that is getting warmer. It is that is getting warmer at such a fast rate that life, and humans, are starting to have a hard time adapting. It is also why I think we should focus less on temperature and more on how we make sure we have a more stable eco system that is beneficial for all of us. But of course climate do play a large role in that. Which is why so many do focus on that aspect.

[@davidmiles]

Cythil the Paris Climate Accord was theoretically attempting to prevent the global temperature from rising by 2 degrees Celsius over the next century over pre-industrial temperatures. Um, that's NOT rapid warming, as you suggest. As I understand it, the earth started out as a molten ball of lava, cooled down and at some point the ice age happened, and then it warmed substantially to it's current temperatures. It seems rather ignorant and arrogant to think that we're somehow able to prevent nature from changing when it's been changing since it came into existence. What you point out is that some people are not adapting to their environment, aka failing to evolve, and you think that we can somehow stop evolution. Again, absurd. Changing the focus of "climate change" to "ecological stability" is disingenuous because that's not what climate change is represented as. Redefining the terms to make it finally fit is dishonest and those opposing climate change should rightfully do so if that's how the proponents of it are doing things.

[@Cythil]

Yeah... But back in the days where earth was a molten ball of lava there was not much life around. Like I said. The problem is not change. It is rapid change. When you get rapid change in the environment it leads to mass extinctions. And we are already in a mass extinction even brought on by man. Evolution in general works rather slowly. Especially on long living organism. You mention that the Paris accord tries to prevent a temperature rise above 2 degree Celsius over per-industrial period. So what the accord is trying to do is make sure it does not get WORSE then 2 degrees Celsius. If we do nothing then it is estimated to get a lot worse then 2 degrees. If we would get a 5 degree Celsius temperature change in a 100 year period then would have quite dreadful consequences. Also note it is projected that climate will be effected differently in different parts of the world to. For example, In the north part of the world, where I live, it is estimated to raise even more. But temperatures will be a bit more stable at more equatorial latitudes. Really dramatic changes will mess with thing like long living trees what will not be able to adapt in such a short period. Trees can live over a century. Meaning there wont be any chance for evolution to act. And I am not trying to change the topic at all. I am telling you why climate change is a problem. It is not because it gets hot. It because when it gets hot it has effects on the environment and that has if it happens to fast negative impact on both human society and ecology. Quick change for human society means you need to update you infrastructure far faster and move people out of problem areas at a quicker rate. In the long run you would have do a lot of these thing anyway. But if you have to rebuild you road network every 10 year rather then every 100 years then it quite a strain on society (just a hypothetical example. Do not get stuck on the numbers). Not to mention you need to change out you crops at a more rapid rate. Also. You talk of evolution as it had a will of it own. Which is not really the case. It phenomena we observer. Theories and descriptive not prescriptive. And is not like we are trying to stop evolution. If anything there are bio-engineers looking on ways to "accelerate evolution" though genetic engineering to create more robust organism that can survive the rapid change. The goal here is after all not to preserve the world in some pristine state. (Well I am sure some people actually want that. But not if you more on the side of the bright green movement like me). No, the goal is to make sure we have a balanced ecological system that can keep on sustain humanity. Quite a few of us believe that humanity would be pretty screwed if there was no nature around to extract resource from. Even if you manage to build some sort of controlled artificial bio-dome for humanity to survive you would have to spend a lot of resource on just getting that working. And it is also very likely that only a small amount of people would be able to benefit from such a project. For me this is all about really preserving humanity. Making sure that humanity can grow and one day expand beyond earth. I think humanity is the more interesting thing in all of universe, at least that we know of. And I value complexity. ICID I am not sure what values you hold. But it may be that we hold very different values and that is why we do not agree on this topic.

[@Casey-yb6be]

Andi8P “imagine a world where you couldn’t go outside for 5 minutes without fear of a serious sunburn” I’m born and raised in Florida. This is my world.

[@rruutt]

...but the meteor men beg to differ, judging by the hole in the satellite picture...

[@jimmyjango5213]

Nice 😉

[@theleftuprightatsoldierfield]

I was today years old when I realized the second verse of All-Star was about climate change

[@nickdeiters4690]

Its "media man" I believe

[@spinyslasher6586]

Nick Deiters no it's is meteor man. It refers to meteorologists.

[@orangeguy5374]

The ice we skate, is getting pretty thin

[@Matt-ww9wv]

It's a similar comparison in crisis but not in economics, which is significant. Changing from CFC kept the same rich people rich. Changing from fossil fuels challenges many wallets with little recourse. You can say that is their fault but that's not going to stop them from kicking and screaming as long as they possibly can.

[@krisztianpovazson4535]

Matthew Brosnan You mean challenges many wallets for something that happened multiple times in history with no relation to industry?

[@Matt-ww9wv]

You're being vague but I can repeat myself if I wasn't clear.The fact is changes in CFC did not change the industry in a meaningful way. The same corporations made money. Changes in the resources we use to generate energy will have significantly more confrontation as it benefits different corporations as well as countries. There are literal countries that are only economically relevant because of the resources they provide in the energy market. There are enormous corporations that are deeply invested in certain markets. Since unregulated capitalism has no intrinsic value for societies well being all parties are promoted to provide their terrible products as long as they can. They are more powerful than ever. They will manipulate the situation to provide as much profit and as little loss as possible.

[@redking36]

Matthew Brosnan He means to say that we are spending to “stop” the inevitable because Earth has cycles of heating and cooling over history. Does anyone really think that humans are stronger than the forces of nature?

[@Matt-ww9wv]

Oh wow, yeah I see that now. That's ignorant. Humans drastically influencing climate change is a fact.

[@LecherousLizard]

The joke is that unlike the ozone layer which has no natural _"predators"_ the climate including greenhouse gases, temperature and such varies greatly by its own and no scientist is able to provide a clear definition of how hard fossil fuels influence the climate beyond _"they do"._

[@LordOfTheBing]

2:37 "We fixed it!" *shows a graph showing it should be fixed in 50 years, and that right now we're close to rock bottom*

[@ComanderComander]

LordOfTheBing not the lowest byt the second lowest

[@imstuman]

CFCs and the ozone layer had drifted out of my awareness. Thank you for this video. I'm glad the action taken then had a positive effect. I need to know to hear more good news! America's role in leading this change was encouraging.

[@karthikrambhatla7465]

I have been wondering about it from a couple of days and this video pops up in my suggestions

[@Blakelikesfood]

Skrillex does narration.

[@kristofferolsson2632]

Thanks for a great video!

[@TommoCarroll]

Agreed! Can't wait to see this channel continue to grow! How about you?

[@anhatrieu9517]

Things are really getting better. It's so important to stay positive and take action!

[@NihongoWakannai]

I live in tasmania, one of the most southern parts of the world, so we still feel the effects of the thinner ozone layer. It's quite easy to get sunburned here even though the weather is quite moderate.

[@John-jc3ty]

Let me it explain it very simply: - CFCs could be replaced without major costs and the benefits of not using them where overwhelming and almost immediate. - Stopping climate change is very costly and honestly out of our hand right now. You all are going to tell me to use green energies... But they are extremely costly, inefficient (very low output), unreliable, and on top of that even if we started right now to spend the money we need for other things, it wouldnt even make a 1ºC difference in 2100. Massive grants go to corporations that make windmills and solar farms... Cause otherwise it wouldnt be profitable. We all pay for it through taxes. The solution you ask? Research, research technologies that are both cheap and efficient. Nuclear fusion is the first example. Improving current green technologies is another, but trying to enforce costly inefficient energy is not going to work. And countries like china which provides a quarter of the CO2 of the wolrd is not going to care either. Why dont they do they tell the truth? Why dont they invest more? Cause politically is much more attractive say "im going to put windmills everywhere and we are going to save the planet from the bad guys" than "i dont have an immediate solution but we are working on it". It always sells saying that you are the savior than telling the goddamn truth, that everything isnt so easy. If we used all the money we waste in the current green technologies in funding nuclear fusion... Oh dear, we would have it already... But is much easier to pay a ton of money to have something NOW to appease our conscience but its useless than doing the right thing.

[@garith21]

I'll also put it simply * not addressing climate change is also very costly and the costs grow at an exponential rate by the nature of how it works * Nuclear fusion while I advocate for it is still a scientific exercise, getting useful energy, sustained reactions, addressing the neutron damage problem are all still significant hurdles to overcome and in fact it may be possible that we'll never overcome the hurdles required to make it viable as a primary source of energy. Hopefully we do, but it's still a ? at the moment with regards to making it commercially viable, personally I'm rooting for the lockheed martin skunkworks project (for mass production reasons) or general fusions design (for elegance). * Nuclear fission is still a great source of ghg free energy and there are far better designs now than the currently extant reactors that are nearly half a century old. * The cost of a lot of green energy is comparable to a lot of fossil fuel sources if used in the right venue, some cases the EROEI is even better than some fossil fuels and the costs continue to drop while the cost of fossil fuels continue to rise due to the energy required to get the same amount of fossil fuels. It use to be during peak oil the ratio would be 1:100, now we're fighting to get sources that are as low as 1:2-5 that we knew about 40 years ago, but didn't think of going after precisely because it was so inefficient. * I don't think we'll be solving our energy issues with 100% renewables any time in the near future, it would require too much energy storage and excess installations to make it reliable and we'd still need a base load power supply like nuclear, but for the foreseeable future they're going to be part of the solution. If we solve the fusion problems great, if we don't at least we didn't put all our eggs in one basket.

[@John-jc3ty]

the climate change is not that bad as interested politicians or interested ongs put it. in fact, with what i said we could as well not do nothing at all and wait until it "solves itself". if we get fusion at the very least on 2100, it would be as it if never existed. but if we keep it like we are now until 2100 nothing bad REALLY BAD is gonna happen. also i think that either fusion will be the future or there will be no future. not cause i like or dislike it but cause there will be no serious alternative. replacing completely coal and oil for fission will be disastrous due to the waste. about the "they are the same price if use the right venue". thats not how it works man, the right venue is money. i could screw the planet right now for everybody else, make trillions, and it wouldnt cost me a bit to me or to my descendants. not taking in account human psychology is a huge flaw that i see constantly. the second counter is that wind/solar farms need materials to be crafted, and those arent "green" exactly, their extraction are very polluting. the same goes for the very needed batteries too.

[@ABEL-cd2sp]

I think our best option right now is to master nuclear FUSION to produce the least amount of waste possible this would also be easier to control for the grid managers and we could include solar and other green energies during the day so we don't have to use nuclear as much basically compliment it but use nuclear fusion as the pillar in the foundation

[@jx4219]

Not green energy but nuclear energy. Would be fine to produce a shitload of nuclear waste if we safe the planet then. So why do we not do that? Assuming newly build nuclear reactors with high standards are safe it leaves only the waste as a problem and that can be buried until the next millennium and maybe we find out what to do with it until then. Is it because of the puplic opinion?

[@williamwalker9315]

Jx42 Public Opinion. After incidents like Chernobyl and Fukashima, people are skeptical of fusion energy. However, if we could extract some helium 3 from the lunar surface, we could create a more stable and safe fission reactor.

[@matrinoxtm]

The important takeaway is that corporations were motivated to fight for banning CFC

[@unknownfact4466]

I liked her as a communicator. Keep spreading those ideas!

[@de132]

Stuff like this is why deep down, I'll always have some hope for humanity.

[@dominiquefortin5345]

Since 2012, the measurement of CFCs in the atmosphere have shown that they are increasing (more than 14,000 US tons annually). Somebody is not respecting the Montreal accord.

[@Zamboro]

We have been using space telescopes to identify emissions of various gases on Mars. I wonder if we could turn them towards Earth to identify the source of the CFCs...

[@josefmuller6070]

Dominique Fortin its not banned everywhere, some extreme pollutants are used in the 3 rd world, like DDT is.

[@proudbeaner696]

Josef Muller like India, China , and Thailand.

[@davidmiles]

This girl didn't get the memo. But it doesn't matter, the indoctrination worked anyways and even though the threat never existed in the first place, she's convinced that we avoided a disaster and that the current alleged disaster can also be solved by government taxing us more and not actually doing anything.

[@dominiquefortin5345]

[David Miles] First, who says I'm a woman. Second, what is important is "what works" and it worked (the level decreased gradually) until we measured an increased in the level as published in 2012. So now, we have to find the source and convince the people doing it to stop.

[@lamarr963]

My deadass though she was Skrillex

[@wr6392]

Lmao

[@therockstarbarber68]

"Yessssss! Omg!!" I thought same thing* lol

[@devendranegi6727]

Thanks a lot girl . It's awesome to know all this

[@MY-fv3no]

Fantastic video, spot-on!

[@KeirLoire]

The Ozone layer is produced naturally as long as there is enough oxygen.

[@Darth_Insidious]

What if we harnessed the power of climate change to create atmothermal energy?

[@Sunro7]

Darth Insidious people may mock or dislike this comment, but this kind of thinking leads to meaningful innovation. Nice one

[@gavinkemp7920]

mainly because to convert energy from one form to an other you need a gradient of energy. high pressure area to a low pressure area, high temperature area to low temperature area. the problem here is the atmosphere has always been the lower sep in the gradient, if you wan't to use the atmosphere as a source of energy you need and other low gradient which i don't think we have found.

[@theallmemeingeye5927]

If wind is caused by atmospheric heating from the sun, then would global warming increase available wind power?

[@gavinkemp7920]

The All Memeing Eye once again it caused by a gradiant of heat. Now the gradiant of heat might increase and scientiste have pridicted that weather will get more violent. This does presente a few issues. One i'm not sure that difference is signifiant enough but more importantly the more violent weather will bring a lot of destruction with it.

[@theallmemeingeye5927]

Lol why's everyone so scared of hurricanes XD just absorb the wind energy with giant wind turbines lmao

[@TheBlackadder-Edmund]

Nice point, never really thought about it...

[@gj4312]

I swear you're one of the only female presenters that doesn't act like they are being paid to talk about something they don't know anything or care about and speak like it's a bad ad.

[@jayit6851]

"Montreal Protocol" "Paris Agreement" I'm starting to see a problem here.

[@oqsy]

🚬🐸🏳️ oh non non non! Nous sommes un peuple fantastique! hehehehe!

[@kffej101]

Love this channel but what is going on with that chart at 2:38?? you can't extrapolate 85 years of future data and call the subject a success! cut the graph off at 2018 and tell me again that the treaty was a "Huge success"

[@minecraftminertime]

Those further years from 2018 are projections based off of the data up to 2018. It's a success because the ozone is currently healing itself, and scientists know that it will keep healing. Just because the ozone isn't fully healed yet doesn't mean that it's not a success. It's a success if the ozone is healing.

[@DQABlack]

It is plain as day that the depletion has stopped and that the ozone layer is healing. It isn't that hard to make an equation measuring the current progress and then extrapolate that to show things a few years down the line.

[@moji487]

DQABlack can you make me that equation given that (as the graph shows) the “healing” process was going down between 2003 and 2017

[@DQABlack]

moji487 You might have better luck asking somebody who knows about the subject, don't you think? Are you really going to complain about an average netizen not having a highly complex formula and an in-depth knowledge of CFC's reactions in the atmosphere? To give you some sort of response though, my guess as to why there was a stagnation in the healing is big players like China avoiding the agreement. CFC's have still been getting produced around the world, just not in certain countries that already agreed. There was a slowdown in the destruction and eventual uptick once the first countries joined, but China and others only recently have been actually giving in to environmental concerns.

[@group1896]

You can check the ozone's status today right here: ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov

[@ithinkitsaurus]

I'm from New Zealand. We never stopped talking about the ozone hole, and still live under it.

[@northeastoperations]

This video was very specific about the ozone depletion crisis. It went into detail into describing it and identifying a solution. Then climate yis brought up. Negative references are made to it but nothing specific identifying it or how any suggested solutions would help.

[@drewdurant3835]

Love digital studios!

[@TommoCarroll]

Same!

[@michaelnovak9412]

Don't. Just recently they killed Infinite Series which was in my opinion the best youtube channel ever.

[@mohammedashfaquedamda9300]

Drew Durant I

[@barbarahouk1983]

Drew Durant this is false information

[@rudy8409]

why do i think she looks like carl from the walking dead??

[@mommy_tomato]

Rudy Rizza I almost spit my drink out when I read your comment! An actual LOL

[@har_har239]

I think she looks like Gabe from the office.

[@LayllasLocker]

Rudy Rizza lol...yes

[@HIMfan42069]

More like female skrillix

[@udyanmatta6811]

Lol you guys haven't seen Tina Fey?

[@YotamGuttman]

The biggest mistake of all is that this issue is completely ignored. I do not look back to the time in history because I was simply not aware of that. We can not fix our mistakes if we don't learn from them but we will not learn from them if we won't learn about them. This is the first video I've ever seen discussing the CFC matter nor was it taught at school. Maybe someone tries to erase this from the history timeline 🤷

[@julielabelle2783]

Thank you.

[@FOLIPE]

Australians live in that world.

[@wyldeman0O7]

Looks the goodwill behind SC Johnson was profit driven, if they could get a jump on the non CFC market space first when it became illegal.

[@LuisGomez-om6kr]

Thanks for making this video.

[@stephenkeebler732]

I remember sitting in a chemistry class in the late '70s talking about gases and particulates that affect the weather. We got to the part about volcanoes and the incredible power their ashes and gaseous compounds have had worldwide after just a few weeks or months of eruptions. One of the other students mentioned he had a family member doing research in Antactica and that a volcano, Mt.Cerebus, ad been erupting there since '72.. The Instructor stated " My God, the affect that would have there from constant release could be devastating!"...

[@ThatLooksLikeARake]

You can't look me in the eyes and tell me that the presenter doesn't look like Drew Monson.

[@turmunhkganba1705]

I’m here from It’s okay to be smart

[@klynt2763]

Same

[@Meeepmeep]

same

[@Rayboblego]

No it isnt

[@derylpetersonnnnnnnnn]

Is it?

[@sarvagyachi8810]

It's okay to be here😎

[@newchangeunlisted_viewer5594]

This video needs more views seriously!

[@BlaireBustillo]

Thank you for this information.

[@Girlcatlove1524]

This is really interesting

[@zentouro]

glad you think so!

[@imveryangryitsnotbutter]

If only other videos were Half As Interesting.

[@gummibear1735]

The ozone layer is definitely still damaged. I live in NZ and after 5 min in direct sunlight my skin burns. I'm in Japan now and I can hang out on a beach in the sun and not worry about the burning. It feels like a movie

[@digitalsoultech]

Great point, but the reason why it was easy to move away from CFCs was that once alternatives we're discovered it was realised it was relatively cheap in moving so. Right now, there is few alternatives to fossil fuels without requiring huge changes in infrastructure.

[@VictorGallagherCarvings]

The only thing these two issues have incommon is the atmosphere. Otherwise they are completely dissimilar. Also a fair portion of carbon emissions could be removed by shifting to nuclear energy, even more so if electric auto's succeed in the marketplace. Unfortunately nuclear is the one option that no one is allowed to discuss in public.

[@petelee2477]

Victor Gallagher if we had a way to safely dispose of the toxic waists then it would be a viable solution

[@orangeguy5374]

pete lee I think fusion is going to deal with that pretty soon

[@PrioBak]

we need it fast...industries are only growing more :/

[@VictorGallagherCarvings]

I don't see fusion power being practical for about another 20 years. There are just to many engineering obstacles that have to be overcome, even when breakeven is surpassed. As for nuclear waste, fast reactors can burn spent fuel rods leaving very little waste to deal with. The technology is not new and was tested in the early 1970's. Of course if low cost iron flow batteries become practical then that would certainly help out wind and solar.

[@LeeLonnieLove]

pete lee just bury it in the desert

[@Kyrkby]

3:20 Oh, you mean that very agreement that the US left for no reason. Good job, guys.

[@VaasMontenegro12]

Roshambo by that time the earth will have heated up so much that the middle east will become uninhabitable (80-100 years) causing a refugee crisis 10 times bigger than the one we saw recently the water level will rise by 1 full meter in 100 years (3 feet), destroying many coastal cities and forcing people to move in land droughts will make food production go to absurdly low levels, spiking food prices through the roof there will be wars over water in places like Africa, for example in South Africa this is already happening, cartels are buying water to have the complete economic control in the long run ocean acidification will cause many types of sea wildlife and plants to go extinct extreme weather conditions on both sides (tornadoes, hurricanes, fires, tsunamis etc.) will both increase in amount and power so it would be nice if we did something now before all that happens climate change isn't a problem that will kill all humans and make us go extinct, but it will kill thousands upon thousands of people, throw many more into poverty, and cause billions of dollars in damages so let's. solve. it. now

[@VaasMontenegro12]

Supreme King no actually, well, millions maybe, billions definitely not same for tens of millions or hundreds of millions, the only causes of death will be the wars the starvation the lack of water and the natural disasters, I don't see 10 million people dying from that, but 9 million, possible but unlikely

[@zadinal]

Yeah that agreement is nothing like the Montreal one. Honestly it is a limp wristed attempt to do something but in reality only hurting the economies of the Western World while allowing the biggest polluters to run wild.

[@sholmesbrown]

that non binding agreement that had pretty much everyone agreeing to keep polluting as is but virtue signal that they are saving the world. yeah the Paris agreement doesn't save the carbon it took to print the paper it's written on. totally worthless

[@mjm3091]

Roshambo US is known for their recourse stealing wars. They will take over Antarctica, and with a whole continent full of untouched recourses they will probably finish our planet sooner or later. I don't say Paris agreement is good, but without making India, China and US to reduce their greenhouse gases, we are probably doomed.

[@abhishekchaudhry3960]

wow...... very nicely explained

[@TechnoLadz]

So if you want to help stop that, in places that rain/windy a lot you can use hydropower/windmills, in places that are Sunny you could use Solar Panels and in place that are mixes of the three, you could use all three

[@sondreishasidharta9038]

finally humans do something smart

[@aussiewater]

*THE SUN IS A DEADLY LASER*

[@marvez9188]

The difference is that the heat will not heal like the ozone, if we take the right path, it could stop getting hotter, but it is not likely to heal or get cooler

[@scarletrae3085]

In New Zealand, we’ve actually made some impressive steps, including some supermarkets giving up plastic bags, or using eco friendly ones, some cafes no longer use plastic straws, we’ve looked into new ways of heating and our fireplaces are all far more eco friendly, we’ve got a clean air bill to help prevent smogs etc. We’ve taken steps with cleaning our rivers and beaches, trialling new ways to make power, solar, wind etc. We’ve made some incredible steps. I’m sure we have climate change non believers, and probably some people who disagree with the steps taken, but at the end of the day, science has proven again and again, the world is round, vaccines work, and climate change is happening. Thanks for continuing to give out a free education video, on topics that are rather fascinating. 💕🙏🏻🎈🦖

[@joernhaese1906]

what a nice and informative comment, thank you so much.

[@darthrevan5976]

I hope we become successful in controlling climate change

[@Zamboro]

It's a lot harder to control the emission of every type of greenhouse gas than it is to ban a single chemical, for which substitutes already existed. It can be done but there's way more money to be made off polluting industries than there ever was off products containing CFCs, so naturally the opposition to reducing greenhouse gasses will be better funded and thus more politically powerful.

[@darthrevan5976]

Zamboro I know you are right but still there's some chance let's make that enough by helping in reducing our greenhouse gas emissions.

[@andrewlaughlin9073]

It’s hard to believe that human use of CFC’s could actually have an effect on the ozone layer. I mean, some entire countries and a continent don’t even have access to products that give off CFC

[@Chris-iv8sb]

thanks for elaborating. i really haven't heard about it for quite some time. just as i haven't heard about nerdy being the new cute. huh.

[@dddhhh2612]

Good story. An interesting note is that pretty much 100% of all the CFCs ever produced were released into the environment. Little was actually destroyed. And the HFCs and HCFCs are only marginally better than CFCs in not destroying ozone.

[@JayDoRaD0]

From our perspective it is almost unimaginable how rational the people in charge actually were back then...

[@aidandruck2423]

There's a major difference between CFC's, which only exist as a man-made substance, and greenhouse gasses which exist in nature in quantities many, many times more than what we produce. There's also quite the difference between the depletion of the ozone layer and "climate change". The depletion of the ozone layer was one specific phenomenon, occurring over a (relatively) short timespan, that had significantly less variables and processes involved. Essentially, the only controlling factor for its depletion was chemistry. When talking about something as broad as climate change there are so many processes involved over such a long timespan that its harder to pinpoint specific causal relationships, not to mention that the climate is in a constant state of flux. Its not a simple matter of saying that atmospheric composition is the main influencer because everything from natural particle decay of elements in the earth's crust to the earth's orbit around the sun to the sun's own climate changes has influence on our climate. Everything we think we know about our contribution to climate change is researched through computer modeling. Because of how immensely complicated the subject is, these models can only take into account so many factors and otherwise has to be based off of certain assumptions. That is why there is multiple different models all with varying predictions. So, while there is merit to the argument that climate change is influenced by humanity, the jury is most certainly not out and to compare such a complex issue to a more simple one the way that this video does is simply misleading. It is a comparison of apples to a whole forest.

[@mommy_tomato]

Aidan Druck well written.

[@shdwbnndbyyt]

Incorrect. Ozone depleting substances are known to be created via volcanic action (Kamchatchan volcanoes greatly out-produce mankind on a yearly basis) and by termites found in Africa. The volcanoes just need a source of carbon, chlorine and fluorine in the minerals..... I have read the relevant scientific journals. Looking for one of them, I did come across an interesting article that lists another souce, www.seas.harvard.edu/news/2017/08/how-future-volcanic-eruptions-will-impact-earth-s-ozone-layer Also, from geologist-1011.net/net/cfc/ "This statement is one that I keep seeing on websites and blogs, and ties in with the assertions repeated by Warrick & Farmer (1990), Grimston (1992), Hendeles et al. (2007), Colice (2007), Colice (2008), and Green & Stewart (2008, p. 18) to the effect that CFCs are not natural in the environment. If one chooses to measure the gases emerging from volcanic vents instead of taking a politician's word for it, one discovers that volcanoes produce a variety of halocarbons, including CFCs. This fact, along with other natural sources of CFCs including sponges, other marine animals, bacteria (both marine & terrestrial), fungi (both marine & terrestrial), plants (both marine & terrestrial), lichen, insects, is so well documented that it is the subject of ongoing textbook publication (Gribble, 2003; Jordan, 2003). Stoiber et al. (1971) first measured and documented CFCs venting from Santiaguito in Guatamala. Since, there have been many studies corroborating the volcanic emission of CFCs (Isidorov et al, 1990; Isidorov et al., 1993; Jordon et al., 2000; Schwandner et al., 2000; Schwandner et al., 2002; Schwandner et al., 2004; Frische et al., 2006). Although some authors attempt to correlate volcanogenic CFCs to atmospheric variations, the confirmation of soil diffusion decay with distance from the vent (Schwandner et al., 2004) still stands in stark contradiction of Frische's hypothesis. Omitted Reaction Series Elements of the typical volcanic plume chemistry such as HCl & HF in the presence of other halocarbons (such as bromomethane) and hydrocarbons, will substitute chlorine and fluorine for bromine, favouring a halocarbon light enough to remain long term in the stratosphere, while the heaviest (eg. bromine) ion returns to earth in water soluble form without the rest of the halocarbon. The hypothesis that volcanic chlorine & fluorine is removed from the atmosphere by precipitation omits the fact that lighter halogens are favoured by halocarbons while heavier halogens are favoured by water soluble acid formation. This ensures that once the bromine has done its damage, lighter halogens are then combined with non-polar chemicals that are too light to settle out, and neither sufficiently water soluble nor hydrophylic to be removed from the stratosphere by precipitation. Furthermore, the surface of the volcanic aerosol not only provides an increased surface area on which ozone can be broken down, but additionally increases the fraction of stratospheric halogen that occurs in ozone destroying forms - as observed in the substantial increase in the ozone destroying forms of chlorine by Wilson et al., (1993). The Awful Truth about Plimer, Volcanoes, and CFCs As it turns out, Plimer was dead right about the production of CFCs by volcanic processes. He may have misattributed this to the wrong source, but he was still dead right. What about Mt Pinatubo you may ask? Bureau et al. (2000) determined that the eruption of Mt Pinatubo released between 15 and 25 kilotons of Bromine, which in the form of bromocarbons as observed in other locations (eg. Schwandner et al. 2004), and in the presence of large quantities of HCL and HF, would undergo a substitution reaction to produce sufficient CFCs to have a prolonged effect. The impact of this was observed in the wake of the Pinatubo Eruption with substantial increases in ClO and in particular the substantial increase in the ozone destroying forms of chlorine as a product of Pinatubo's emissions (Wilson et al., 1993). Aiuppa et al. (2005) determined that ongoing passive emissions from Mount Pinatubo alone include 700 tons of bromine and 10 tons of iodine annually. As halocarbons, it is inevitable that these recombine with more reactive halogens found in abundant volcanogenic acids such as HCl and HF to form CFCs, HI, and HBr. Conclusion In spite of numerous erroneous academic assertions, CFCs are naturally occurring chemicals and are a significant component of active volcanism. Volcanic CFCs are emitted in the presence of compounds that raise the residence time of volcanic halogens in addition to intensifying their ozone damaging effect. This would suggest that volcanoes have had a significant impact on the ozone layer. Furthermore, when someone like Plimer appears to misquote one source, it is likely that it is the source that is misattributed and that underpinning can be found elsewhere for the assertion. It is just a matter of looking."

[@NotYowBusiness]

But, but... what about the 97% of scientists that agree that the changes we have recorded over the past 60-100 years are anthropogenic? While the models deal with large uncertainties, arguments like yours that emphasize these uncertainties stifle sorely-needed action that is already severely affecting livelihoods in the developing countries. The consensus of scientists cannot be ignored; at this point, they are not asking whether it is happening but attempting to predict the way it will play out. The actual observed trends are often exceeding what was predicted by models, which themselves are highly sophisticated works of engineering that have not, ultimately been proven wrong. In simple terms, I'd rather be safe than sorry. Changing our current fossil fuel system will be beneficial regardless of how much this system is to blame for climate change because it is definitely responsible for trillions lost in health and environmental damages. Did you know that around 5-10% of global GDP ends up as a fossil fuel subsidy? It's a bit of a scandal in my eyes.

[@VicNightfall]

NotYowBusiness It's not comparable. You are talking about a compound that's a byproduct in countless chemical reactions that form the base of our civilization ever since the discovery of fire. CH4 + 2 02 -> 2 H2O + CO2 As an example, for every ton of cement produced there's one ton of CO2 released into the atmosphere. You can't just turn a switch to make it stop, it's literally what makes the world go round

[@Cris_Blu]

Vic Nightfall of course we can't stop CO2 but we can certainly stop destroying the things that keep it in check like forests and coral reefs, and decrease our own emissions to slow the rate of climate change by moving away from fossil fuels and finding alternatives to the "thing that makes the world go round"

[@designissimple]

i was looking for a fairy tale to read to my kids tonight - thank you soo much they are going to love it

[@marcelmolenaar5684]

The hole in the ozone layer is only above Mauritius. It has something to do with a chemical combustion with photons and CFK-gas that hit the stratosphere under a certain angle. But the hole in the ozone layer is constantly filled in.

[@psis6786]

I didn't even realize I was early...

[@dragoncurveenthusiast]

Obviously you did

[@psis6786]

I thought this video had already blown up, until I saw the number of comments.

So... you're a time traveller. (2:17)

[@zentouro]

dang you found me out.

:D

[@goda7137]

idk

[@discoveryoff-road609]

CFC is way too heavy, which makes it impossible for CFC to float up into the ozone layer.

[@curtiswebber1248]

Discovery Off-road damn right it is an impossibility for CFC to reach the o3 level and eat the ozone layer humans will fall for anything.

[@annikaheydl7342]

Everyone needs to see this

[@user-nr3bt3ty2q]

Once my maid asked if the space ships or anything that goes to space puts a hole in the ozone layer She was 20 I was 11

[@thr2648]

Wa

[@MrGustavier]

completely missing the only interesting point here : why it worked with CFC and it's not working with carbon

[@TheMikman97]

MrGustave1er because cfcs were relatively new and alternatives were close to Discovery and cheap to make. While gas is the most Energy dense fuel available and untill mixed with oxigen is also very safe, instead of lithium batteries that have a 10th the Energy capacity per unit of mass and the safety of a small bomb if you so much as breach the Hull.

[@ChristinaPrajishFamily]

Good information and I subbed.

[@nagualdesign]

Non-flammable!? When I was little we used to use cans of hairspray as flame throwers.

[@ZomBeeNature]

[crickets chirping]

[@ZomBeeNature]

It would be good if we actually kept hearing crickets chirping in the future...

[@johnthebun]

Are you the new Justin Y?

[@ZomBeeNature]

JOHNTHEBUN, yes, yes I am.

[@toastcrunch9387]

Zom Bee Nature Would it? Crickets are annoying.

[@ZomBeeNature]

Anon Deus, a cricket chirping in your bedroom can be annoying. But in the dead of winter it is what I want to hear more than anything else.🙄 I know of one place I recorded last year where the tree crickets were so loud I actually had to plug my ear, though, to get relief! 😀😁😂

[@Hillers62]

Wow! She is nerdy cute!

[@yo18momas]

No... not really lol

[@S-Kevin]

Hillers62 it's a dude, dude

[@killurmommy]

3:22 almost all of the buses or trains or tubes ive been on had chairs with that pattern

[@theoneamongthehidden4387]

If only everyone could always work together like that.

[@matthewwhiting9283]

Thought this was college humor for a second

[@darthrevan5976]

The comment section is so lonely

[@zentouro]

the video just went up! but hi, how are you?

[@darthrevan5976]

Hi I am fine I just opened KZbin and this message showed up

[@zentouro]

that's neat. well thanks for dropping by this channel :)

[@darthrevan5976]

zentouro your welcome and actually I was one of the 1st subscribers

[@zentouro]

heck yeah!! thank you especially for that then :D

[@MrRomka404]

That sh*t was deeper than then my boots could handle.

[@genial55matt]

Great video