Why Dopa Always Bans Talon

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[@LoLDobby]

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[@bajojajo7745]

isnt it s14 now

[@asdkjashda]

@@bajojajo7745he hit rank 1 in super server s13

[@bluenosaurus2720]

TF using R1 and only see 4 enemies: Something's off. TF using R2: No, this is fine.

[@snaker1511]

Toji reference

[@synicat7839]

Imaginary Technique: Edge of Night

[@ajmaeenraeed5268]

Challenger macro friend. We don't get to question these

[@captainmerthin2019]

That TF will be forever haunted by that outplay. That was absolutely villainous. Had to be feeling so smug and excited that he was about to pull a classic Twisted Fate moment and ults right into the waiting buzzsaw that was Talon lmao

[@TheKaratejesus]

He's simply inexperienced. Every good TF knows this interaction and would never make this play without knowing where talon is

[@caminhaodelixo2]

@@TheKaratejesus inexperienced = high challenger korea god how the yt commenters love to feel superior somehow

[@TheKaratejesus]

@caminhaodelixo2 being challenger doesn't mean you're experienced on every champ. This player is inexperienced on TF and it shows.

[@maymaymyonmyon]

​@@TheKaratejesus it shows on... where? The talon could be anywhere, maybe right inside the bush next to him and he wouldn't know. It's easy to talk out of your ass when you're watching from the 3rd pov, just take the L dude lol

[@TheKaratejesus]

@maymaymyonmyon I'm not talking out of my ass, though I'm sure you'd like to believe I am. I'm rank 38 on TF and I peaked grandmaster, I know many TF otps that look at this clip and laugh. This is something you learn after trying it once and then never again. TF being meta rn means lots of inexperienced TF players are playing him. You can be challenger and play this champ at a challenger level if you're good at mages and mid lane (or top lane) and still make stupid mistakes like this due to inexperience. Most players don't realize that TF ulti is blocked by spell shields anyways. Any TF player worth his salt knows exactly where this talon will be. Challenger players won't often leave an open nexus vs TF, but I'd understand why you don't know that considering the things you say outing you as unskilled.

[@marshall3753]

watching a good talon play actually feels like watching an assassin creed scene

[@milanlazovic7292]

7 years ago my son force me to try LOL...my first main was Talon...real assasins creed...

[@luufia]

Ngl i kinda forgot talon was still in the game

[@inksword6029]

Because he feels miserable to play, he's a one trick only champion and all the one tricks hate it

[@zeflin2110]

@@inksword6029thats actually true

[@Ozbey1]

all the assass are in the same situation for more then 3 years now im not talking about ap version of assas just the ad assass im talking about

[@Ozbey1]

ad assass are not worth to play anymore because you can f up so easly. Ap control mages are 10x time more rewarding and easy to play. Its not even mathmatically correct whats harder to play is worth less and whats easyer to play is more rewarding. Like for example if you F up the Q ability in a all in fight with zed you literly do no damage. and thats what you need to master alot. while ap mages you can just spam abilities so often and if you run out of mana u can just tp back to lane. u can buy zhonias to doge all in potential of a assas so easly. i dont know man..

[@cursedvillager925]

@@inksword6029 other assasins in late game are still decent, but Talon's late game just terrible, may be the worst in League, you must make enemy team ff15 or you gonna lose. Before, his early-midgame is good engouht to made up for the late game, but now with a bunch of overload champ and item system, he just falling behind. I guess that why he feels miserable to play, he really need a mini rework ngl.

[@PK-zy9pk]

had to like the video off of that Edge Of Night & TF interaction knowledge alone

[@MrcaliciousHyphy]

Yeah, I never knew about that. It makes sense when I stop and think about it, but damn, that’s so cool.

[@alexmatarratas2091]

and it also works with nocturne ult, you still see normally if you had a spellshield

[@tsunamininja]

TF ult breaking spellshield can be good for the TF too - not common but you could break it just before gold card lands on eg a sivir or nocturne (or any assassin walking around that has EoN active expecting it to be blocked)

[@LoLDobby]

You know exactly !!

[@kamiz0]

good tip

[@Z0mbify]

08:07 that was a lore accurate talon if i ever seen one

[@Sprinkles456]

Now my 15lp teammates can parkour down the rift to int me in style! Thanks Dobby! (Love the videos)

[@vh5360]

hope he talon e window irl)

[@yukiko6137]

It also stops nocturne's R

[@kyquocthangle4501]

@@vh5360 You may expect him to E to your mom's window lol, just watch out for his "SWORD" xD

[@hastyrecon2899]

You're welcome! -signed 15lp Teammate

[@buyhighselllow408]

was a pleasure to watch.

[@roboxenogaming2047]

Nice tip on 8:07, i had no idea that occurs. I thought my spell shield was randomly broken without taking certain skill dmg. The more you know. (I just noticed it was also a backdoor, look how much TF did to Nexus with just passive + auto + RFC)

[@firatyalcin8588]

The flash E signiture is the most nische but yet flawless move. I call it the "honor farmer" since no one understands talon anyways and its the Chefs Kiss making u do "damn"

[@NepNeppy]

The 1v3 at 6:30 was pretty sick, manage to get 1 kill and make it out alive. Also the TF ult interaction with Spell Shield I wasn't aware of but was still great plays.

[@Rayogami]

My friend made me try League back then, I didnt like it, it was boring. I dropped it for a month then she asked me to play a game and I was like okayyy imma hop in. It was my 5th day of the log-in rewards. They gave me the option to grab one between 3 champs: Fizz, Ekko and The Blade's Shadow. 5 years later I have 1.5M as a Talon OTP, don't regret a sigle bit. :)

[@user-vq9ny4xo4t]

Explanation at the end of the video: Leblanc and Pantheon counter. Talon in video: kills Leblanc and Pantheon alone. Refuses to elaborate further.

[@AM063094]

lol yea. But for real though, those were outplays. In those fights, the talon had to outplay them and commit everything (both sums). Panth & LB flash was down or they just didn't use it. The Talon had to work so much harder for those kills.

[@user-vq9ny4xo4t]

@@AM063094 Of course, I understand that Pantheon and Leblanc are very difficult opponents for Talon, and I can imagine that they were featured and commented on in the video because they turned those tough matchups around. However, watching the video after Talon's excellent outplaying, it was so surreal and funny that those were actually counters.

[@timlau9611]

pantheon counters talon as his kit just deals more damage plus a defensive e. A good leblanc always win against talon until he gets fed in sidelanes then he can 1 shot talon.

[@kyquocthangle4501]

@@user-vq9ny4xo4t just like how Leblanc counter Swain in early game, although both are on the same side (in lore) and both have tactical brain lol

[@franciscoc8228]

superb player and highlights+breakdown to go along with it. this guy is a real star case!

[@andrei6154]

would love to see you showcase some adc cuz every match has always been jinx, jhin and caitlyn this season

[@flexboseley1821]

I love your videos

[@strongerthanever2039]

It's so fitting that an item called Edge of Night can prevent being revealed. I am vengence. I am the night. I am Talon.

[@yoyoprofessorxavier]

His ult combo was the way I used to do talon combo before his rework. I just dont like the speed of talon but the new meta does allow for some newer things to try out.

[@Mc_Siuuuuuuuuu]

U must do a film about master Crit Sylas with protobelt Essense and IE

[@xAurapp]

Thank you for sharing ! how you see the game in super server please ?

[@Athielmon]

nice video, i'm not sure about eveyrone, but I preffer those videos without the music

[@Siigrit]

Amazing vid (watched in x12 speed!!)

[@Moonflush]

Indeed amazing, and what a crisp sound! (watched in x30 speed!!)

[@waterDrinker13]

d4 elo, every time i have a talon in my team i dodge now, it's been auto lose every single game. im amazed someone is managing to do something with it

[@inksword6029]

Real

[@allen0neil142]

its because d4 is low elo

[@mrmangbro6842]

@@allen0neil142 top 4% is low is crazy. Top 4% in any other game people realize is actually good lol

[@Intoxicated4768]

@@mrmangbro6842it’s just tipical league ego bullshit that people spew because that’s what streamers say all the time. Yet most people saying this are like probably gold or something. E4 is already top 20% and D4 is like top 5%. Imagine being better that 95% of player base and being called low elo lmfao cringe ego shit.

[@mrmangbro6842]

@@Intoxicated4768 I'm d4 1lp iirc and I'm top 3.7% even when I was masters in season 10 it was "low elo" even though it was top .1% lol.

[@anipie4854]

Hmmm nice nice I always like this kind of videos bc I can apply it on wildrift I'm an ex-pc player but changed to mobile and like getting tips and tricks from your videos and use them but substituting some build runes that'll fit mobile version keep it up I like your vids😁

[@johnlui887]

"No room for harras" "Kill the enemy if they try to stop him" Sounds like the ultimate anti-bullying guide

[@dogwater-qc3ti]

You forgot to add level 4 recall trick that is widely used among talon mains. Basically talon can get to lane very fast by using his E ability so if you having trouble during laning phase you can all in your resourses (hp and mana) to push the wave at level 4, that will make you level 4.5 and then you recall. If made perfectly and enemy doesnt have strong shove potentional then you dont lose any cs since the next wave is cannon wave and enemy will not be able to push it very fast.

[@naeurry]

Still waiting for the video on Soodangkim !

[@allen0neil142]

We need a video about the new volibear with Navori

[@bakad5458]

that would be boring to watch lol

[@STARCU_RUPERTOS]

8:25 korean grandmaster le blanc btw

[@18skeltor]

Fiora support player on NA called Doctor Ricky

[@vanjastec3160]

Never knew EoN can block TF vision, that's nice

[@iamaherotoo]

3:57 Galio: You’re in front of my turret and I am full HP, let’s trade! Talon: Trade me your life

[@joshabrogena1240]

impeccable use of P made all the difference Assassin mains want to be him but cry when they say the burst isn't enough

[@Frogtea]

talon using cold blooded pro to block twisted fate UAV

[@GianFerreyraBouillon]

Please do Wuhushen!!! the monstruous TF in the superserver

[@antoinec8248]

You can cancel tf vision with a spell shield, there is still something to learn in this game

[@dirtiestbomb1715]

4:39 is an absolutely unbelievable play

[@beelzeszel]

Ngl i might play wr again cuz i remembered how fun he is

[@denispeda]

does anyone there remember talon exp runepage? good old days

[@fredrikwasastjerna9386]

The EoN tech with tf ult was fucking sick

[@nuxbot919]

Hence the 3 talons I farmed today. It was again dobby strikikg haha

[@arillb6681]

Never been so early

[@derp_sherpa]

Alright time to go and show my team the terrorist talon pick!

[@lifeofhackerv2]

can you do a video on pilayone ?

[@chiyue5676]

thought it would be yedaoshen for sure

[@gdat]

my talon cant jump over the wall correctly

[@glazz6357]

The true assassins creed shadows

[@berrex5152]

my goodness the skill is actually scary

[@mikecampau438]

NGL. I definitely TF ultwd into that talon and then said "wtf, of course I ult right into him walking back from base."

[@Moonflush]

TFs ult is countered by spellshields? That is some knowledge

[@destructaphoenix6679]

That's me! (in my dreams)

[@kale4052]

for those of you who were inspired by this video and want to play talon do not ignite during ult if you are looking to one shot. this will result in the blades coming back to you instead of going to your target.

[@A1phaz0ne]

He's just like me fr fr

[@tomi6505]

make a video of rengar jungla please

[@user-sn2cx7fb5w]

another ezreal one plsssssssss

[@deny_s]

This kind of Talon would tilt anyone to the ground...

[@Braxtonkai]

They were talking about making Talon Q scale with atk speed, is that in PBE or is that already in?

[@inksword6029]

its already in its just quality of life change it feels so much better

[@Braxtonkai]

@inksword6029 cool ty, I've been wanting to go back to trying Talon and see how this change feels

[@inksword6029]

@@Braxtonkai it feels great trust, you can go for WR aaQaa wayy more often and passive procs properly and its so quick

[@world33445]

Dopa's back?! i must tell this to midbeast xd

[@VampireHBlood]

夜刀神

[@asdkjashda]

渣米

[@zeah9171]

@@asdkjashda 的確

[@VampireHBlood]

@@asdkjashda 了然

[@ethannguyen9638]

With electrocute is it Sudden impact, Eyeball Collector, and Ultimate Hunter? Or would it be preferable to go Treasure Hunter instead?

[@rawselfmastery3306]

Both are decent

[@tomaskubanek4290]

sudden impact is trash, id take taste of blood imo

[@rawselfmastery3306]

@@tomaskubanek4290 sudden impact is one of the best runes right now you’re tripping

[@surapitch4492]

Ultimate hunter since talon is very reliant on ult

[@jym2r]

@@tomaskubanek4290sudden impact does as much dmg as electrocute lmao

[@Dmz102]

What happened at 4:10? Seemed like Galio had plenty of HP left just for last ticks of ignite to kill no?

[@carlosho9376]

Passive bleeding & ignite

[@Blaze-kf3ds]

flashes to dodge both panth q

[@DanteCrowlley]

Does the skin has any trick? I know OTPs love skins with tricks

[@huynguyenquang7435]

This one just for style. The bloodmoon skin has visual indicative passive makes you see which enemy has how many passive marks easier

[@djakdawid4254]

blood moon is a pay2lose tbh, high noon W is thinner and enduring sword W animation makes pixel perfect plays easier

[@twintyara6330]

So much work for so little, I like talon but damn its hard

[@jym2r]

But we keep going because a wall hopping assassin with a dozen blades is dope asf

[@DraphEnjoyer]

If they ever give his E an actual cooldown or mana cost then this champs win rate is going to plummet and we'll see how "good" a lot of these players are

[@Caenem_]

Imagine a competitive league without bans so otp could play their champs

[@TwoToo_]

ok but 3:00 insaneeeeeeeeeee

[@nanorustet3293]

Lmao tf's vision being blocked by a spellshield seems so off.

[@justinjakeashton]

3:50 Didn't even need ignite.

[@Polored1066]

i just noticed the last video made in this channel about a botlaner was 4 months ago when smolder was relatively new... any chance for some adc ?

[@jacky6432]

Is dopa still straming? where does he stream in?

[@AmokBR]

This is guy is scary

[@GLADIATORDRAVEN]

is this yedaoshen?

[@temp1607]

zhami

[@user-yy4zd6pk9w]

talon is the strongest lv.1 passive+ig deal like 300dmg

[@dominiorrr6510]

how do you proc passive at lvl 1 lol

[@ramasubhashpottipati647]

​​@@dominiorrr6510M7 Talon player here. You can proc passive level 1 with 2 W's and one auto attack to trigger the bleed.

[@myon2958]

@@dominiorrr6510 auto could extend the duration of passive mark (but it is still quite hard to have chance to trigger

[@dominiorrr6510]

@@myon2958 yeah, but realistically it'll never happen, unless the enemy doesn't know how Talon works. It's like saying that Singed has the strongest level 1, but only if the enemy chases until they die.

[@PrimeMinister88]

Hit the nexus not the Vlad

[@josegenovez8456]

How did pantheon not react to that flash at 2:50, pantheon wins that and it’s not even close if he q flashes backwards. Seems like he just relies on them not knowing talons damage

[@gothboisinner1935]

can you update your qiyana video? i think we need new tutorial

[@dazeen9591]

No way. Talon mid in season 14??? I can't believe it. That champ is soooo useless outside jungle.

[@thehellblazer.]

8:26 I instantly stopped the video after I saw that LB W, it's just disgusting.

[@ThSUNaAmI]

well this talon land more AA than most of adc...

[@TheMannhead]

wait so ulti gives 2 passive stacks??

[@inksword6029]

R1 and R2 just like W

[@bombasticcat]

do shaco please. But not the ap ones, if you can find any ad players it would be so nice.

[@asdkjashda]

check butan shaco chall jg ad shaco main there was a game he carried vs canyon last season and he plays in kr but i dont know much about him

[@princetontan27]

not sure why i do no damage when playing talon

[@GLADIATORDRAVEN]

yamato faker dopamineeee

[@macsimon24]

Dobby you only seek for rank 1 korean? because i follow the rank 1 talon CH who is Yedaoshen and he is a monster as well

[@bongschwee103]

YAMAT clears dish dish dish

[@Theos-ne7nv]

Hmm. Always thought of Talon as an assasin for noobs. This is impressive

[@inksword6029]

the assassins for noobs are ap like ekko and fizz

[@kyquocthangle4501]

@@inksword6029 and Zed too, arguably Qiyana is higher level assassin then Talon but then she has so many things in her kits for every situation (think of K'sante but go full ad assassin and gender bender lol)

[@inksword6029]

@@kyquocthangle4501 zed is pretty hard to play honestly, hes harder than talon for sure, qiyana is the hardest but the most rewarding since shes the only ad midlane assassin with bullshit in her kit like very good invis, double cc, damage amps etc

[@kyquocthangle4501]

@@inksword6029 zed is not that hard to play, If this is season 3 Zed then sure but Zed nowadays is just poke till enemy drop low enough for him to all in lol (either with R or W2). My favourite counter to Zed is to pick Swain ignite and buy cloth armor at lvl6, bait out his Q and WQ then wait till he go for cs, E pull W him for a slow + AA Q and Aery + scorch for extra dps. Only last hit cs as zed tend to push wave and thus if he want to W2 all in or Ult he may be near to my Tower and thus take a couple tower shots kekw

[@vuthinh2163]

It'll take months or even years to be at this level at Talon and it's still too squishy for 99,9% player to play. Gore Talon is the most stable and friendly to player playstyle but guest what? they removed Gore, since then, I no longer see Talon in my game anymore, even in Aram.

[@leonidas1571]

Didnt Dopa retire?

[@komikuki12]

Dobby new ryze video plsss

[@jackycasino6285]

balls

[@osamayoufty261]

Does he stream or has youtube

[@surapitch4492]

He stream on Huya

[@matamich8228]

yamato will still say its trash

[@Spynighty]

I thought I was good at Talon -_-' I'm nowhere near his level

[@greatesthackaz8434]

my server cannot xD

[@ISAK.M]

Only way to make Talon work XD, disgusting damage but d0gshit laning phase type champion

[@Rayogami]

watching porn: 😴💤 watching high elo Talon gameplay: 🥵🥵

[@inksword6029]

The champ feels utterly terrible to play unless you get extremely ahead early by pure chance, it's like coinflipping