Why Editing Keeps YouTubers Poor

[@creator-booth]

Letting go of editing is tough, especially when you enjoy it. Its also a very important part of the video process BUT there is no doubt, doing it myself held me back far too long

[@Jesse_Leyk]

I don't know, homie. While editing, I often discover how I could improve writing, or be more efficient during production

[@madvillainy6845]

He said keep doing it if you love it.

[@Jesse_Leyk]

@@madvillainy6845 who asked?

[@DamienTalksMoney]

I hired an editor at the start of the year. My revenues have trebled since. I told myself ‘only I can edit like me’ the first video we dropped not a single person commented about the change of edit…

[@creator-booth]

I actually thought your editing had improved a lot 😂

[@DamienTalksMoney]

@@creator-booth clearly hired well then! I’ll pass this onto him, he is deep into an edit as we speak

[@NathanLeeCFP]

@@DamienTalksMoneyhow did you find your editor?

[@FutureTechPilot]

I have a couple of questions that maybe you can cover in a future video! 1. What is a fair price for videos that require speed/efficiency rather than raw talent/creativity? 2. How do you transfer footage between you and your editor?

[@vincerobles]

looking forward for this

[@DavySTUN]

1. Google it! 2. See #1.

[@DavySTUN]

😂😂😂😂😂 Joking, but really not 🤔🤔 1. Search for video editing services. (after glancing over websites of at least 20 of the search results. You can hopefully get an average. Price range plus seeing what other are offering, hopefully creating ideas for how you will stand out n up! 2. Can you guess what I’m gonna say? Google it, or what I do is KZbin it, if there isn’t a bunch of videos, come find me and I’ll eat my shoes! lol, or give you free access to…. 😎

[@TheDaveDryden]

From a business productivity standpoint, absolutely yes, editing is a time drain. From a 'makers' standpoint, sub-contracting parts of the creation is like hiring a ghost writer to write your book. There is something special about creating the whole thing, painting the entire painting not just the finishing touches. Editing also lights up my day to day life, and my first 1-2hours of the day being absorbed in something I really enjoy feels awesome. That doesn't mean I'll never change that, but it's something to consider if editing is enjoyable to you

[@AmyNaylorMusic]

I'd be curious to hear what your flow looks like with your editor. What's your system, how do you make it efficient, what does file transfer look like, pricing etc. I'm not quite there yet, but I feel getting an editor is in my future!

[@JamAttack]

I've always liked keeping my editing very basic. I prefer focusing on general pacing, writing, voiceover and structure.

[@vincerobles]

agree, perfectly works for a rich content that requires less editing

[@brianporter2806]

Spot on Ed! I hired 4 college students full time in the Philippines and we talk exclusively through Discord. They do amazing work and cost less than 1 entry level person in the US. Aptitude is global if you'll choose to find it and invest the time and processes.

[@davetriesthis]

Was this through Fiverr? I find a lot of great creators in the Philipines. I hired a news writer when I was the editor of the magazine, and at first i felt really bad outsourcing to something less expensive. But we'd offer news writing jobs to US people and the pay was just not worth it for them. Editors ended up writing the news. Then I found a great writer in the Philipines and the amount we could pay them was the highest any client was paying them. It was a win all around but I felt bad for a long time.

[@brianporter2806]

@@davetriesthis No, I found them all direct. Once you find one great resource, they typically have friends that can do the same. There are job boards and ways to find people direct in the Philippines. I was looking more for aptitude and personality and trained them on skills, rather than the other way around. I pay them all directly using Wise, so no middle man to take a cut. I even sent them money to buy high end desktops they can buy locally for video editing. It's more of an investment, but if you find good people and treat them well, it's amazing how it can be a win win for everyone! Let me tell you this, I've never once ever questioned their work ethic, whether they will show up for work, or their ability to do the task. If there's a drop in delivery, it's usually because I wasn't clear enough in my communication. Even though I can get on a zoom, I choose to put everything in screenshot tutorial videos and type on discord so it's all documented and they can consume it at their own pace and have reference materials. It works amazingly well.

[@BeatsBeneath]

Yes, how'd you find them please?

[@vincerobles]

Thanks for trusting in us, the Filipino creatives

[@babetravelling]

Finding an editor is hard if it’s a vlog. You’re right about feedback & also giving instructions takes more time than editing

[@alivevideos]

I will like to be your video editor. 1 free video for a start.

[@babetravelling]

@@alivevideos it’s not about being free… it’s saving time thru systematic approach. It’s hard for a vlog. I tried so many editors & giving instructions took more time than my edit

[@alivevideos]

@@babetravelling Give me a trial

[@vincerobles]

totally get it, you have to replicate your entire character to that editor to represent you!

[@tayinternational]

@@babetravellingsomebody speaking truth here .

[@scriiv]

💯 They don't say KZbin is the Hard mode of social media for nothing. Makes perfect sense to leverage the output with 10x skills.

[@vincerobles]

what's the easy mode out there?

[@scriiv]

@@vincerobles not saying anything is particularly easy. KZbin is harder because making videos takes more time and effort than posting a picture or a tweet.

[@riveralvarez7517]

KZbinrs need to know that this is like running a business. You always need to give your viewers what they want. You can't become complacent at any moment. At the end of the day, toughest part is definitely starting your channel and growing it up to the point you become successful (and honestly if I haven't used a lot of Famester, I would have quit a long time ago. It was a proper game-changer for me, and once you become successful it is a great tool to control algorithm).

[@BeatsBeneath]

Wow those 125 subscribers you got must be really helping lol.

[@vincerobles]

@@BeatsBeneath lol

[@fisheatrepeat]

Thought was gunna be tips on making simpler edits. I've actually used my editing & filming skills in my day job quite a few times now and I NEVER thought I would have. It's helped a lot tbh

[@MelanieDyann]

Shout out to Greg, because other than loving the amazing content Ed delivers in these videos….I LOVE the editing style. These have been so helpful for me lately! Keep it up!

[@kingguff3000]

If I only make 50-100$ a week how can I afford an editor.

[@garygretarsson]

lol bro you NEED to get another job. If you’re only making that much it’s your own fault.

[@RecordingBlog]

@@garygretarsson No, it isn't, depending on what niche you are!

[@rafsankabir6975]

if you want i can edit your videos within your affordable budget please inform me

[@sentientbeans]

Thanks! As someone who has a fulltime job it makes sense to hire out editing since the financial part not an issue, and I get to put out more content

[@WhitepepperFarm]

I NEED a creator operator.. but that doesn't sound like something that's in my budget. Definitely something to look forward to!

[@creator-booth]

You dont pay them, you give them a cut, so theres potentially no upfront cost

[@danyil_koval]

Absolutely. If you spend even 4th of the time you spend on editing, preparing and working on so called 10 skills, you'll results way faster. Always remember people who give great speeches uncut and are listened to in millions. That inspires a lot. Plus gives you more self respect.

[@AndreyMakarov-i7h]

I hope this trend stays so much, I hate overediting.

[@LaughLounge537]

I love your videos. The editing style is so clean.

[@1gdeconciencia]

I'm trying to minimize the time the more i can. As soon as I can edit enough to upload one or two videos a week, i know deep inside my channel will start grow. i'll finally have more time to spend on other things that also benefits the channel

[@KDWil]

your last email with the soundcloud link was fire.

[@DexRock]

4:07 isn't creating a detailed SOP for editing completely limiting editors creativity, room for improvement and innovation? Wouldn't the videos just get boring and repetitive if the same scheme is followed for every single video?

[@vincerobles]

agree, but maybe he has a diversified SOPs?

[@creator-booth]

No you still give them creative freedom! Dont take that away, you can build a system that helps with that too

[@chris_sparrows]

My challenge is I'm in the filmmaking/editing space and I love to edit. But there are only so many hours in a day. I've decided when it's time to outsource it, I'll hire out for the behind the scenes and tutorials, and keep the films to myself.

[@vincerobles]

good strategy

[@vincerobles]

As an editor operator, I have to make sure that I'm well fitted with the type of content and with the client... coz It's not just about milking the cow but also looking after it's welfare.

[@mkravchenko]

Just redid my finances to see if an editor is truly doable...this was perfect timing

[@alivevideos]

I will like to be your video editor. 1 free video at a start.

[@vincerobles]

truly doable through small increments

[@tube-master]

Writing is the secret sauce! I like your take on this subject 🎉

[@KurffyOfficial]

what was that calendar app you used 1:46

[@JamesKerLindsay]

Thanks, Ed. This was a great video. And great point about the story heavy videos! I’d love to find an editor. My problem is that I am working on news related content that is often extremely time sensitive. I film on a Thursday for a Friday upload. This means getting all sorts of news material together very quickly. This can’t be easily outsourced to an editor unless they are really copied up on news as well. I’ve got most of my editing down to a routine, but the one bit that is now most time consuming is the one thing that I really need to do and can’t easily be put out to an editor.

[@creator-booth]

Can you do a bit of it then send them to finish it? Thats how I work

[@JamesKerLindsay]

@@creator-booth Unfortunately, the easy bit is the main cut. (By the way, have you checked out Gling? It is fantastic. I’m also using the Elgato prompter. Both have really improved my workflow.) I can actually get the base of the video done in an hour or so. It’s finding and adding the b-roll that’s really time consuming. It has ti be very specific to my video. But that’s what levelled up my videos and saw my channel grow. I was taught all about that several years ago by this bloke called Ed from something called Film Booth! 🙏🏻😀

[@vincerobles]

@@creator-booth or make it simpler (basic edit) for faster turn around

[@JoeSimpsonAtTempest]

im starting to think you have a camera in my house watching me. i somewhat recently passed off editing for my talking head stuff and course stuff and looking back i cant believe i used to spend the time doing it. some days, ill film content and send it to my editor before i drive home from my shop to my house - and ill have a completed video waiting for me when i get home. now instead of coming home and working for several more hours, i can actually spend time with my family - OR get started on more videos.

[@creator-booth]

I do have a camera in your house! Glad to hear you have experienced the magic of outsourcing :)

[@vincerobles]

and doing what you do best x10

[@MatthewCicanese]

Ed, I just met with someone who’s probably going to take the editing weight off me. I love editing too, but I don’t have the time and energy to anymore. I’m ready to “Eat the Red Jellybean” (take the red pill, lol)

[@tomdmann]

🔥🔥🔥 writing's where it's at - finally the penny is beginning to drop for me

[@Narchiz]

Where can I find jobs as a video editor?

[@TijuanaJackson]

Sad that I came to this realization six months after this video posted. I probably be much further along had I seen this earlier. 🔥🙏🏾

[@ThatMarkGilroy]

[pops red jelly bean in mouth]

[@MajesticLawnGnome]

😂

[@TeaFoxCreative]

Wow, what a fantastic breakdown of the value of outsourcing in video creation! Your jellybean analogy really resonated with me. As a video editor myself, I know firsthand the difference it can make in streamlining workflow and delivering top-notch content. If anyone watching needs a reliable editor to help bring their vision to life, feel free to reach out. Thanks again Ed, for the great insights!

[@OldIronAcres]

@7:13 ------- AAhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! The Sign!!! Boom! Thx Ed! (Now waiting for $$. Hahahaha)

[@EnglishScore]

What service do you employ for your editing?

[@MahdiTheMagician]

This is a great idea but hard when starting. How much did you go in the hole until you made a profit?

[@amahsue]

What’s your take on hiring editors for challenge based/storytelling channels??

[@SootheSound]

I have 3 questions: how much is a fair price for an editor? Second, how do you know you can trust them with your files? Thirdly, how do you securely transfer large files back and forth?

[@kestonsoldschoolcomicbooks6842]

Great video, Ed. This idea must have been on your mind when you were chatting with Dusty Porter! That was an excellent interview, btw!

[@JoelSnape1]

Not the most important thing here, but how did you do the rotating jellybean animations?

[@creator-booth]

Greg did it in blender

[@alitopedits]

I just edited a documentary for a guy who did the scriptwriting, and voiceover but outsourced the editing to me. Smart move.

[@WhatGear]

Hi Ed! 👋 What's the ball park figure for a decent editor these days?

[@TeaFoxCreative]

I hope he gives an answer to this

[@BeatsBeneath]

I'm an editor and live in the UK. Full time positions are in the range from 35,000 - 40,000 for many companies now. Dunno about the creator economy or free lance though tbh. Thinking about it, Ali Abdaal also just hired a full time remote editor for 30,000 usd salary.

[@vincerobles]

@@BeatsBeneath that's annual, right?

[@clementletou]

As a full time editor, I have to say it's almost impossible to find clients. Upwork is of no help, and YTjobs is hardly any better. I've found all my clients by writing them an email, but there is no way for creators to find us.

[@zaynesgarage]

I need to find an editor for my son channel. As single creator working with a 4 year old then have to edit the videos is a lot of work. It takes me 2 weeks to publish his videos. Great video. ❤

[@millionairemindsets]

coming from an editor...i approve this message😂

[@JakeGrows]

Great video Ed thank you for breaking my shackles!!!!

[@creator-booth]

You're free!!! Fly my pretty

[@rtfiscool]

Thanks for these videos brother..I really love the business side of YT and im glad we share similar mindests regarding it..good luck on the grind😎

[@nicolesellingstuff]

There was not a link to the video at the end where we can focus on what we do with the time to make money faster.

[@peterediting]

Good advice! Leave the video editing to the professionals and don't waste your time on it

[@lisalikesplants]

I'm fine letting go of my editing. As soon as some big checks come in, I'm game. Until then! 😂

[@MajesticLawnGnome]

Lol

[@Emceemur]

I've learned some good tips from you on editing. But now, you telling me to sub it out is honestly a confusing take. Even half decent editors can cost 10X what a channel actually needing this help brings in in terms of ad revenue. So to clarify, are you suggesting channels should go into the red and hope for ROI?

[@creator-booth]

NO hire one when you can afford it

[@Emceemur]

@@creator-booth Ok. It sounds like a transitional thing. Maybe sub out work for 1 or 2 vids which will add to my output, generate revenue and eventually allow all the editing to be paid for? That could work.

[@beatbuildersstudio]

​@@Emceemurthat's how most people should be finding their channels. You don't need VC money but having a job is how you pay for your career. I understand people want to be "full-time" creators but that's not realistic for most people.

[@albertsavila]

Me watching this as a KZbinr/Video Editor 👁️👄👁️

[@bycreativepaula]

I love the color correction on this video

[@vincerobles]

agree, easy to digest!

[@TheFeed365]

Seriously, editing is the longest part. 😫

[@Enzo_mailly]

If editing is the longest part in your video, that means you put no effort in writing, script etc. It's like making a meal, if you invest 0 times choosing your ingredients : obviously cooking will take several time to make something good.

[@faddad101]

I love editing when I have the time but above all else love just recording and playing around. The only problem is weighing up the idea of hiring an editor when you have a 9-5 too. Time vs Money ahhhh

[@creator-booth]

If you hire one it'll help get you to full time on KZbin much faster

[@alivevideos]

I will like to be your video editor. 1 free video at a start.

[@vincerobles]

@@creator-booth you can also do it with small incremental steps, delegate what you can afford

[@LadylinaM69]

I hate editing! HATE HATE HATE! But I like learning about it and how to do it I'm the problem I know!

[@MickeyMullin]

How would you feel about at an overview of putting together a video creation system-specifically regarding hiring an editor-in one of your KZbin videos? Would that trod too heavily on your paid content? Also, love the lighting on this one!

[@vincerobles]

looking forward for this

[@SnowyBlizzard]

Man it would be nice to afford not to edit my videos🥲

[@BenKaluza]

The major problem is 99% of creator operators don't have experience growing an online business or have testimonials for previous products or service. They want to leverage a creators audience despite bringing no value to the table.

[@creator-booth]

Yea thats what ive been seeing, it wont work if you dont know what you're doing

[@jeffsantos93]

My goodness a creator operator is the dream! I doubt I'll ever be able to find one though...

[@alivevideos]

I will like to be your video editor. 1 free video at a start.

[@vincerobles]

take time to find one, it's a personal journey

[@cautious.marlon]

Does this also apply to small channels that have no money coming in? I totally get the strategy behind it and I spent 70-80% on the idea,packaging and scripted but just today I made the decision to move away from daily uploads towards 1 vid a week with higher production… what to do think?

[@vincerobles]

you can also change your storytelling styles

[@Dancing_Alone_wRentals]

Such a cool video....tHanks as always!

[@DistractedDaisy]

Purple jelly beans are my favorite though!😂

[@badassoptic]

Editing can get technical, and sometimes you waste like 30 minutes on a 3 second footage, then another 30 on something else. And then at a certain point you overthink about an edit and you rewind to watch it, then that wastes another 30 - 60+ minutes

[@vincerobles]

part of the process

[@ChefinJapan]

I needed to hear this 😬

[@vincerobles]

and follow through

[@GlowBright333]

2:00 am, what was I doing with this 5 sec clip?..... And I begin wondering if there are any Dr. Pepper jelly beans left, maybe there is one on the bottom? More reason the Jelly Bean analogy works! :)

[@kieranproven4874]

Someone has read Dan Sullivan.

[@sand-sun-and-rum]

Which Dan Sullivan reference did you notice? 🤔

[@kieranproven4874]

@@sand-sun-and-rum 10x is easier than 2x. It's a good book.

[@DharmaScienceRadio]

This 10x > 2x mentality is awesome #RedJellyBeanTheory

[@Vergence]

So you don’t think any channel could possibly only get the views it gets because of a specific editing style unique to the creator?

[@creator-booth]

no, good editors can emulate and surpass anyone

[@vincerobles]

editing is just a part of a good storytelling that is unique to the creator

[@gling]

100% agree. Especially true for the rough cut phase that takes a ton of time and adds very little value.

[@BonytoBeastly]

Holy damn, you can edit your videos in a day?!

[@wmpx34]

How do you transfer 500-1000 GB of footage for each video? It ain’t all talking heads

[@DeveshUba]

4.22 : Typo - EFFICIENCY That's why it is hard for people to delegate Editing.

[@Dancing_Alone_wRentals]

I love editing...best part of making my disasterpieces. But Mr. Red Jellybean has a good point.

[@MTBLaura]

and ironically, sometimes those little errors can create more engagement 👀😉

[@creator-booth]

Its just a typo and my mistake not the editors

[@Shahwezz]

Sir, please go back to taking care of your cow mum mo mo move now !!

[@vincerobles]

typo worked, got me engaged

[@SimracingArnout]

Great video Ed! I am a horrible editor my audience forgives me cause I kind of give them the value I think

[@vincerobles]

put more character on it

[@SimracingArnout]

@vincerobles thanks for your comment could you tell me a few ways how to increase character?

[@vincerobles]

put an extra effort on how you communicate your value, don’t settle with a generic approach

[@CreatorWizard]

What a great title lmao

[@ChristopherPellIELTS]

Great video.

[@muhammadSamiUlx]

Slow down I can't understand what you are saying

[@theevergreenofc]

I've struggled to find an editor that matched my expectations, this is a hard hitting video. But the idea of making a system that can just be repeated in every video might be a game changer.....

[@Steven-Thompson]

Agreed, Im with you.... I tried to loosen up on my quality and get 'Livestream' content repurposed as an alternative. whilst the content is great the quality isnt my best... arrrghhhh

[@vincerobles]

you guys tried using a brand persona and teach the editor about it? its basically replicating yourself to shape that editor through that thing

[@Greinerdavid]

his editor is crying while editing this video...

[@creator-booth]

Im not saying dont be an editor, be an editor!! Its a great job

[@Greinerdavid]

@creator-booth yes I get your message. Just tried to be funny and I failed 🙃 p.s. love your content

[@vincerobles]

@@Greinerdavid lol got me crying too

[@Greinerdavid]

@@vincerobles we can cry together mate!

[@faddad101]

Oh is Ed upscaling his vids?

[@AlexiGiovani]

Hey Greg. Typo at 4:24 for efficiency ;)

[@vincerobles]

the typo worked, got me engaged

[@futurie9191]

For me researching and scripting is most time consuming and boring, please give me some suggestion...

[@AllGames-InternationalGamers]

Thx❤

[@ozb2006]

good info but to fast pace

[@ATRestoration]

You are speaking too fast, slow down.

[@sonjaray444]

Really - I watch him on 1.75 speed 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@sebastianroberts3495]

Nah

[@no_napkin]

Hey Ed love the video. I am in no position to hire an editor but i know for sure now it will be my first thing i do when I can start generating income on youtube so I can focus more on the story and impact of my videos. I was wondering if you know anywhere where I could get honest constructive criticism about my videos so I can grow as a creator. Let me know if you have any suggestions. Regardless, thanks for the video!

[@vincerobles]

diversify storytelling styles

[@no_napkin]

@@vincerobles can you explain what you mean I am not quite sure

[@vincerobles]

every creator is unique, you have to try out different style on how you communicate your value to others. Like Ed, he is on the edutainment style on this video. Educating while entertaining us with the jelly bean analogy.

[@no_napkin]

@@vincerobles oh i understand now, thank you for the advice!

[@Billy_Cook]

Yeah but you’re paying someone to edit and that’s why your calendar is clean

[@creator-booth]

thats the entire point of this video....

[@marcoballesteros1013]

Hi! I do not have a channel but want to start....

[@YourWorldOFInternet]

Not the jelly beans again😂😂😂

[@CMZiMusic]

I Do Gaming video, And dont uave enough to hire a editor, atleast an editor like me

[@drivingdaily582]

My editing sucks...for some reason people still watch so for that im thankful

[@alivevideos]

I will like to be your video editor. 1 free video at a start.

[@vincerobles]

maybe start exploring some storytelling styles out there and testing it on your channel

[@ThePhotographicEye]

Ed is a Liverpool Fan. Spotted a fan channel in the creators montage :D

[@BrinkleyComics]

Definitely a Spurs fan. Saw Ali Gold in the intro!

[@creator-booth]

Watford fan sadly haha

[@BrinkleyComics]

@@creator-booth close enough XD

[@ThePhotographicEye]

@@creator-booth should have guessed - aren't you from Herts? I was born in Hertford

[@seanmartinflix]

I get what you're trying to say. And I love most the videos on your channel both of them. But for me like you I do love editing. But also I don't make my living off KZbin yet. And I would rather edit for other people and myself then work a different job. So editing is a skill that you can be a freelancer for other people well gaining a skill to use for yourself. So yeah it makes sense for some people. But for people like me. It's like I'm either going to make money landscaping which is my other business or editing and then also saving money on the videos I make and also enjoy it. See what I'm saying. But yeah this video might get some more people paying for editors so... Hit me up... Lol ..

[@seanmartinflix]

I agree with the streamlining though. I always have my assets already.

[@vincerobles]

lol, creates a demand for us

[@aumeravfx]

As an editor i agree with the point. There are a lot of red flag job descriptions. We would be more than willing to help you if you are the right person and treat us like actual humans instead of content machine.

[@vincerobles]

my man!

[@CrxEDIT796]

if any creator is looking for good video editor then I'm here. just comment and I'll reach out to you

[@RealSpacial]

If anyone is looking for an editor, Im your guy hit me up 🤝🏾

[@MomonaJourney]

Then there’s the artistry…. 🤔… so you’ll be poor if you focus on artistry and self expression over popular topics? There are way too many creators in the world for this advice…🤔

[@creator-booth]

Did you see the end of the video where I covered how to do both?

[@MomonaJourney]

@@creator-booth I rewatched it when I saw your comment to see if I had missed something. As a Latina, I find your accent challenging to understand at times. But I think wanting to edit (which I think is what you mentioned) and editing as an art form or way of self expression are not the same from my perspective. Your old videos had a lot of bells and whistles that I agree might not have been necessary and totally get being exhausted. But they set you apart and a lot of times I was able to connect because of the feeling you portrayed. Like I’ll never forget your video in which you checked your phone every morning to see how your video was doing, and your struggle with that. I felt a human connection to that. As a viewer that’s my prefer form of consumption… things that make me feel. So as a creator, that’s what I also choose. I don’t want to let go of that as a way to grow or optimize my creating. And since I watch plenty of huge (mostly women) creators that have grown with a focus on emotional expression, I know it’s possible, I just wish I knew how. Unfortunately those creators don’t teach. Mostly men focused on talking head teach.

[@Misty0069]

Video editing has become saturated , don't get into it !