Why electric vehicles burn so well

[@cameraman2505]

Metal cabinets and drawers are gonna come back into fashion.

[@lisazabriskie7916]

And your average microwave emits 2450 Mhz to cook food and we are installing 5G, if not higher, all around us! Hmm?

[@WmBoron5]

I know I'm missing something here - but here goes: 1) Lithium batteries burn really well 2) We have no good way to dispose of used up batteries 3) Our current "green" power sources are inadequate and cant keep up with demand 4) ThePowersThatBe - insist on shutting down the coal/oil powered plants QUESTION: Can special scrubbers be put on old powerplants and burn used batteries or is it really required to have the high charge in them in order to burn? OR - what about the hydrogen gas??? That burns good also...

[@xerr0n]

"Can special scrubbers be put on old powerplants and burn used batteries" they already have filters on them, yet the amount of toxic smoke coming from the batteries is no joke

[@SojournerOnSojourn]

Just stop making the poisonous items Stop buying them Be smarter !

[@armoredghost6180]

Burning EVs is another sign of the times.

[@ariesred777]

Those hybrid cars also weigh a ton Hard to tow out of wet ground

[@Gary_Hun]

My E-scooter story is that i am unable to talk about anything else while being invited into my friends' home, until the friend's scooter is put outside of the house. My EV car story is that i just violently flash the bird whenever a friend offers a ride in their EVs.

[@skippylippy547]

"Flashing The Bird" is environmentally friendly! 🤣 Gotta love it! 👍

[@Cons_Piracy_Theorist]

Once Years ago I had a cheap Huawei phone and I bought a cheap extended battery from ebay , which involved putting an expanded backplate on the phone to accommodate the larger battery. It worked well but after a while I noticed that the battery was slowly swelling. Then I moved to a new phone. Now I don't use phones at all. Sorry that was so boring. I've also used various other things like ebikes/scooters and all manner of gadgets but never had a problem other than that. Also been sub-ohm vaping for 10 years and no problem but I use good batteries for that.

[@pbsamanthamarie]

You dont use phones anymore? How do you manage that? What about a landline?

[@OlegFilippov-e5m]

I keep myself away from electric cars , I'm an old fashioned guy liking old cars , old technology , so no tragic story :)

[@peacepoet1947]

I have a 72 Chevy El Camino. Only 170,000 on her engine. Had to finally replace the water pump. It wasn't leaking, but the bearings were shot.

[@bartdeking]

You do realize that EVs catch fire 20+ times less than ice cars. This includes all the rubbish evs made by ice car manufacturers. Similar to a digital camera from Kodak. Also note that if you are still scared, buy a standard range model-3 or y as they have an lfp battery that does not suffer from thermal runaway.

[@OlegFilippov-e5m]

@@peacepoet1947 , yes , and no headaches , you can fix by yourself , electric ones that's a endless money pit

[@OlegFilippov-e5m]

@@bartdeking , thanks for advice

[@peacepoet1947]

@OlegFilippov-e5m if you do need to take something apart on an older vehicle. Try to figure out what parts you might need before the disassembly. I understand that can't always be done.

[@flightrisk6176]

I would love for you to recommend a phone that would be the least trackable.

[@JulianaBarembuem]

Suddenly I feel an urge to only ride on a horse or a bicycle, just in case. ;-) Great explanation!

[@ethimself5064]

My daughter has had 3 top of the line Hyundai's over the years. Even the gas ones go up in flames recalls or not. Last one she got due to a recall/fire she just traded it in for a new one and ended up getting 160,000 km engine warranty with an unlimited time limit

[@marcossonicracer]

well, for these kinds of power demands we all know LI-ION or LI-POL batteries are not gonna cut it not because they cant provide the power, but because they are unsafe. IMO untill a solution is done, best bet is to just use them as little as possible like Public transit trams and such.

[@Blurns]

I'm surprised to find that class D fire extinguishers don't just use a fine powder sand. It seems like it'd work, but I'm probably overlooking something.

[@Charlemagne1367]

As a train driver i instinctively thought about powder extinguishers we use in trains for electrical equipment fires.

[@Oceanstarz]

Excellent info, thanks so much Scottie!! 🤗🙏🏄‍♀🌊❤✨✨

[@ericmc6482]

Fire crew can only bring marshmallows lol.

[@nunyabiznez8120]

The rates in Sweden are misleading. Yes, they say that ICE cars are 20 times more likely to burn, they are neglecting to let you know that there are at least 100 times more cars in Sweden. Ratios are great when you take into account the numbers making up those ratios.

[@bartdeking]

The 20 times is obviously relative to the number of cars in each category so independent on how many there actually are. Also other studies show significant higher numbers than that in favor of evs

[@mikeharrington5593]

StacheDTraining is a good KZbin channel presented by a professional firefighter with a catalog of EV fire incidents.

[@toxlaximus3297]

I've always said use electrified slots in the roads like scalextric, just don't touch them. 😝

[@The_Reality_Filter]

A recent study completed by Volvo showed that the average EV has to do 50,000 miles before it has the same carbon footprint as an ICE car fresh off the production line. Thus unless the EV has a long life it will always have a larger carbon footprint. This is "Green"?

[@Cons_Piracy_Theorist]

Two decades ago I was helping my bro build his house in an off grid area and conveniently he was friends with a real good solar installer. I complimented the solar guy on how he has a business based on being green etc and he scoffed and told me straight up that it's all BS. The solar setups can never recover as much energy/resources that went into making them. Maybe efficiencies/design have changed now, I don't know, but why would they push it so much at the time if it was all BS? I know the answer now but at the time it was quite infuriating to listen to all the green stuff.

[@The_Reality_Filter]

@@Cons_Piracy_Theorist Correct and there's also the recycling problem; the lack of recycling option. Same goes for those wind turbines that require hundreds of square tons of concrete to place them and their fibre glass blades cannot be recycled. Clearly very profitable though!

[@Cons_Piracy_Theorist]

@@The_Reality_Filter How do you mean the lack of recycling options? I have plenty and use none. It's all psyop. We put our empty water bottles on ships and send them to a third world country so they can burn them so that we avoid some kind of internal guilt? And then we heat new oil to make new plastic water bottles. I know what you mean about the wind farms though. I live in a beautiful natural area but there's a long running wind farm near me (one of the first in Australia I think) and they just dump the old blades on the same property, down the back where only drones can see them. Why do they even need to change the blades? Lol. They're fibreglass - it's not like they rusted or the wind wore them out. Personally I think this whole place is some kind of weird simulation or something. Anyway, good evening to you. 🙂

[@xerr0n]

​@@Cons_Piracy_Theorist its worse than that with the water bottles, they might dump them midway, its not just the rivers that are carrying the waste out. more on plastics though, the second most polluting microplastic source are plastic pellets, the pellets that are used for plastic product production. go figure. (in the first place is tire wear, yup its the cars again, guess whether evs make more or less) "it's not like they rusted or the wind wore them out".... thats exactly what happens with the wind, a gale pushed them too far and they broke, either a little bit or outright cracked in two, weather is dynamic and there are storms every once in a while, a wind turbine can also burst on fire if it goes too fast and the brakes malfunction

[@mikeharrington5593]

Yeah, at time of manufacture an EV has twice the carbon footprint of a comparably sized ICE vehicle. Add to this the high cost of replacing an EV battery from damage or deterioration, the associated high maintenance costs, & nil availability of cheap generic spares. Then after 3/4 years the cost of battery replacement exceeds the value of the car. Thus EVs are going to the scrap yards after only about 4 years from new, making their operating lifetime between a third and a quarter of regular ICE vehicles, or even much less. Then there are the problems associated with extremes of hot & cold weather which don't affect ICE vehicles, & accessibility to charging stations - particularly in weather extremes. EV = Explosive Vehicle

[@Pete.Ty1]

👍👍👍. Thank you

[@Charlemagne1367]

Am i correct in assuming e-bike or e-scooter batteries are mainly catching fire because the wrong charger is used, e-car batteries catching fire completely unexpected and that combustion engine vehicle fires start because involvement in an accident.

[@ScottiesTech]

Nobody seems to mention that part... I did read that several e-scoooter/bike fires started on the roofs of buildings where they were kept. That might imply excessive heat/sun. It would be nice to actually know those details, but alas, all we're given is, "Nothing to see here! Get rid of your polluting car, you evil Earth-hating caveman!" LOL

[@Charlemagne1367]

​@@ScottiesTech 🤪 earth hating caveman, makes me smile. I always ask the extinction rebellion nuts or planet saving fruit loops why the Trias was the greenest era on earth with 5 times the carbon dioxide levels we have now, while with our current levels they say we are all going to die and the planet is going to burn up 🤣 More people die from cold than from heat. Curious what then would be the ideal temperature on a planet were temps range over 140 degrees celsius 😂 And for the excessive heat/sun. Aren't many ev car batteries cooled, and yet still catching fire. The Tesla semi that caught fire not so long ago in California springs to mind.

[@Charlemagne1367]

@@ScottiesTech Don't know if you have seen this talk by a geologist mining engineer were she talks about mining being at it's limits and to "save" the planet we would need to multiply current mining for precious minerals by 5 times...😅 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqmWgaZ9Z9KlY7s There's auto translate for those who don't understand french.

[@s3rit661]

Burn well but burn less times, the statistics says gas fire cases are more than ev cases on 100K car sold, not bc the gas cars are sold more, bc that statistic is averaged, hybrids are the ones that catch fire the most, anyway gas can explode, soo

[@ManJO601]

with a cyber or amp attack you can kick ALL ELECTRICK AND POWER GRID GONE

[@Charlemagne1367]

Well any "modern" car that uses a cdi is gonna be toast, not just ev's. Even modern ice cars can be controlled remotely.

[@peacepoet1947]

Could a fire blanket work to keep the flames from spreading?

[@quantumkineticscorporation]

Wanna collaborate?

[@FastingStarChanelNo5]

Didn't some iphones burst into flames at times? Never gonna buy an EV, sorry Elon lol. Thx Scottie.

[@UsoundsGermany]

Ppl supporting the cabal w/ buying eg EVs do not deserve it better

[@Charlemagne1367]

"The" cabal does not exist, on the other hand many little cabals do and they will fight each other when push comes to shove 😁 Also people saying others don't deserve it better because x y z reason i find them no better than the ones they point a finger at. 🤷‍♂

[@rezzer7918]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@ethimself5064]

This should be good

[@bartdeking]

Lithium iron Phosphate batteries in all the standard range Teslas DO NOT suffer from thermal runaway and will not cause crazy fires.

[@enzojunqueira3748]

pretty sure that statisc about EV burning vs ICE is terrible wrong

[@javigy]

1800 dollars? why so expensive? I can buy it for approx. 150 eur.

[@ScottiesTech]

Where?? Maybe it's just where I live.

[@anthonymalovrh2912]

Boy, you really attracted a bunch of negative nannies.

[@bluebandit4708]

If you made 20 electric cars and had two fires and you made 200 petroleum cars and had two fires Their analogy is, that the risks are the same? WTF Thats a what a general Google search will bring up two electric fires two petrol fires leaving out the fact the number of cars made is variable difference I suppose the bonus is my car burst into flames in the garage😂😂

[@OleksandrSe]

Can you research if electric cars electromagnetic fields are strong enough to mess up with humans? This could mean that both combustion engine cars(gasses cause cancer) and electric cars can be harmful

[@krix0043]

YES THEY ARE HARMFUL. i have an EMF meter and i metered a few of them and sworn I would not be driving or buying one even if i got it for free.

[@SojournerOnSojourn]

Best solution! Don't own one!