Why Every Value Investor Is Buying This Stock

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Hamish Hodder

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In this video I breakdown the investment thesis for Micron, a stock many value investors have taken positions in the past few years.
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@mayacho4910
@mayacho4910 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, A friend of mine referred me to a financial adviser sometime ago and we got talking about investment and money. I started investing with $120k and in the first 2 months , my portfolio was reading $274,800. Crazy right!, I decided to reinvest my profit and gets more interesting. For over a year we have been working together making consistent profit just bought my second home 2 weeks ago and care for my family.
@theresagarcia1218
@theresagarcia1218 Жыл бұрын
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@mayacho4910 Жыл бұрын
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@theresagarcia1218
@theresagarcia1218 Жыл бұрын
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@mayacho4910
@mayacho4910 Жыл бұрын
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@mayacho4910
@mayacho4910 Жыл бұрын
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@InvestingwithTom
@InvestingwithTom 2 жыл бұрын
Great video mate! And yes, that is crazy small
@HamishHodder
@HamishHodder 2 жыл бұрын
thanks Tom!
@Stockado
@Stockado 2 жыл бұрын
Just to add some info for your viewers: 1. Innovation is not slowing down - the entire thesis is built on the fact that Micron will sell value added products and you need better machines like EUV from ASML - This is also the reason why Micron can control the cycle and they can hold inventory instead of dumping the product in the market for a lower price - they know the demand is there for these high end products 2. The point on data centre is partly correct but we need to realise that players like Microsoft don't buy memory chips every quarter, they buy for 3 quarters and then wait for full utilisation, so there is always a small cycle going on - you can see that with Nvidia as well and this is why Micron just lowered their guidance- so yes the long term demand is there but that doesn't mean the business won't go through cycles Big fan of your videos. If you need any help regarding micron, let me know as I cover this on my channel consistently and I own it.
@detaildevil6544
@detaildevil6544 2 жыл бұрын
Pabrei bought the majority of his shares +1.15 Million shares in Q1 2019 at an average price of 38.64 $.
@johnsnow3662
@johnsnow3662 2 жыл бұрын
More of this please! What are other common stocks superinvestors all hold / invested in recently?
@leestringer
@leestringer Жыл бұрын
I don't know if you forgot to edit that part out of "how are they making them so small?" but I'm glad you left it in. My favourite part of the video. :)
@shottyshot
@shottyshot 2 жыл бұрын
the thing to remember, is that moores law was created at a time where digging oil was equally as easy as doubling transistors. we have to realize that we are at the upper cap of this situation.
@norelleluna6890
@norelleluna6890 2 жыл бұрын
Being of age and how to manage the sequence of returns in those early periods is what seems quite scary in the current market. The market is never a loser in a twenty year cycle, but the 2000s decade scenario scares me and could really disrupt my retirement. When you are no longer accumulating but withdrawing its hard to be anything but cautious.
@paultweedley2026
@paultweedley2026 2 жыл бұрын
Heard all this a year ago with BABA, tosh, beware false profits
@gin8505
@gin8505 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Netflix
@kjk11719
@kjk11719 2 жыл бұрын
Have you taken a look at ASML? They're the producer of the machines that produce the chips.
@mijura_official
@mijura_official 2 жыл бұрын
Multiples of MU seem reasonable. In other words, the return on investment is not great. I wonder if LI LU and Monisi have deep insight into MU... I was investing MU at 1%, but Now I have sold even that weight and bought more OXY.
@andrewcozzi9163
@andrewcozzi9163 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of Charlie Munger typing ‘Ye I know lol’
@filb
@filb 2 жыл бұрын
You could argue that Mohnish would say the samething but in reverse for Baba and Munger lol.
@MasterChiefSpartan
@MasterChiefSpartan 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent reaffirmation of my decision to buy micron stock in late may 2022. By the way, I am also a value investor
@stutzpunkt
@stutzpunkt 2 жыл бұрын
Great content mate
@FUDBuddy
@FUDBuddy 2 жыл бұрын
but why not Samsung?
@claandmil
@claandmil 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Hamish, diameter of a human hair is 100 um (micrometer), not 100 nm (nanometer). Huge difference when comparing with transistors and chromosomes!
@HamishHodder
@HamishHodder 2 жыл бұрын
Must have been a typo from the website I screenshotted from. Yes big difference, a hair is about 100,000 NM 🤣
@claandmil
@claandmil 2 жыл бұрын
@@HamishHodder Exactly, strenghtning your argument about transistors' tinyness... that is blowing my mind too I must admit. Always appreciate your videos, keep on.
@theitalianinvestor262
@theitalianinvestor262 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video thanks! Just like u I find it really hard to analyze Micron. We must always remember to stay in our circle of competence
@paulquinn9105
@paulquinn9105 2 жыл бұрын
What is the average lifespan of memory chips, as used in data centres?
@SergiMedina
@SergiMedina Жыл бұрын
I already made not bad money from MU, and I'm holding a relatively small position... Not planning to sell anytime soon. Memory is just beginning to explode. Thanks.
@lilbroomstick7914
@lilbroomstick7914 Жыл бұрын
Yea I sold some too on that one run up it had back to its $90 all time highs and now I’m buying the same company at $40. Seems too easy, that’s why I’m always staying up to date with micron and their ongoing oligopoly
@linusjacobsson2419
@linusjacobsson2419 2 жыл бұрын
This video is awesome value. Thanks!
@parhamhamouni3218
@parhamhamouni3218 2 жыл бұрын
Well-put video. Thank you!
@Allen-L-Canada
@Allen-L-Canada 2 жыл бұрын
They are making 3D memory chips now, where the chips will be in a cube shape and are able to expand the spaces of hosting a lot more transistors.
@leihoa
@leihoa 2 жыл бұрын
Talking about 3 players? Then check ASML, which is ... ONE and ONLY player in the whole world. WHOLE semiconductor producers' world relies on ASML. As they say, "Don't dig for gold, sell shovels" - and this is what ASML does. Company provides equipment to semiconductor producers and noone else can do it the way ASML does. Why? ASML offers most advanced solutions, EUV lithography systems that allow to use wavelength of just 13.5 nm (almost x-ray range) to cut the stuff up to even 3 nm! These things are so advanced that ASML was "convinced" by US government not to sell it to China (they sell to China only DUV systems, older generation stuff and even this is on the radar of Uncle Sam now). And company is well managed and investor friendly. So, this is how companies make transistors so small - using ASML equipment. I do not have position yet, but it is on my watchlist, very high on my watchlist.
@markoturic701
@markoturic701 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you ASML has what Buffet says a moat around it self and it’s really big one
@tombo45
@tombo45 2 жыл бұрын
ASML is a fantastic company. The problem is the price it is currently valued at by the market
@mattw464
@mattw464 Жыл бұрын
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@The135813
@The135813 Жыл бұрын
This was such a great video
@davide8831
@davide8831 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Hamish , can u make an update on asos since it is plunging big time since you made a video about it? Also are you still in?
@ash3rr
@ash3rr Жыл бұрын
You sound like such a follower.
@WPaKFamily
@WPaKFamily 2 жыл бұрын
10:53 So basically the OPEC/OPEC+ of semiconductors? Wow. A technological cartel.
@WPaKFamily
@WPaKFamily 2 жыл бұрын
@vfbos_productions I too have studied economics. You might be correct.
@williamhowe9170
@williamhowe9170 Жыл бұрын
I think Monish is wrong on this one...because TSMC is almost monopoly leader...they have lots of fabs including leading the entire ecosystem of the semiconductor industry...the industry is hard to compete against the biggest player (TSMC significantly at the top and Samsung)...this is because it's very very capital intensive and requires a whole ecosystem to deal with....TSMC which Buffet significantly invested in recently has heavy investments of land and fabs in the US now... BTW Apple left Samsung and it's now one of TSMC customers... also Intel, and lots of other medium sized players....the industry is also an asset to AI and internet of things (IoT)
@IIIlIllIllllII
@IIIlIllIllllII Жыл бұрын
What has TSMC to do with dRam?
@federicoarmanti7655
@federicoarmanti7655 2 жыл бұрын
The major limit vs logic chips (TSMC) is that for memory semi like Micron’s you also need to couple the capacitance. If I remember correctly.
@golafs
@golafs 2 жыл бұрын
the length of your hair growing for 10 sec is about the same as in 7nm transistor :)
@bluegtturbo
@bluegtturbo 2 жыл бұрын
MU being hyped no end... And the only way it's going is south. The golden rule is wait until tomorrow it'll be cheaper then.
@bigbrad5382
@bigbrad5382 Жыл бұрын
Q3 2022 ≡ David Tepper - Appaloosa Management Sell 100.00% 575,000
@davidcunningham2074
@davidcunningham2074 Жыл бұрын
a very smart presentation
@WPaKFamily
@WPaKFamily 2 жыл бұрын
9:05 that pause lmao
@waterisfree2079
@waterisfree2079 2 жыл бұрын
I have heard that China has been massively subsidizing semis including DRAM and I am not a computer expert at all but when I buy RAM for my PC its not like I am seeing massive jumps in what I can buy for the same price. Seems like more of a commodity and players in China seem to be coming online with little regards to profitability
@rnegoro1
@rnegoro1 2 жыл бұрын
Government subsisized.
@leestringer
@leestringer Жыл бұрын
How does quantum computing affect this industry?
@jakemcfarlane8890
@jakemcfarlane8890 2 жыл бұрын
Thumbnail killed me hahaha 🤣
@김성대-e3t
@김성대-e3t Жыл бұрын
Why everybody don't buy sk hynix or samsung electronic. Sk square has 20.1% of sk hynix. But it is cheap. I guess everybody concern about governance issues. Somebody have any opinions?
@neilcameron434
@neilcameron434 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. As I understand the nanometer number assigned to a chip is no longer an actual measurement of the size of transistor . For the past 10 years or so it's been more a marketing term used by TSMC etc .
@jacknorris3079
@jacknorris3079 2 жыл бұрын
Which Monish interview is this?
@leorwolf
@leorwolf Жыл бұрын
look for the video where he is wearing the same shirt as this one)
@zwriter3658
@zwriter3658 2 жыл бұрын
Strange investment on MU ..only logic is they sell options contracts and collect premiums on these stocks.. other than that as an investment .., I fall asleep watching its down trend movement
@711-v3k
@711-v3k 2 жыл бұрын
You still in asos, Hamish
@brunoradovanovic2408
@brunoradovanovic2408 2 жыл бұрын
Okey now at 1 p/b is time to start position buying more at 43$
@BaldInvestor
@BaldInvestor 2 жыл бұрын
You are right. There is this moment when you think "what am I missing" if great investors see some value. But buying it without conviction and some personal analysis ends always in a lot of problems :) Very interesting video. Thanks a lot.
@rickfool1452
@rickfool1452 2 жыл бұрын
im sick of people like you. bald investor popular investor incredulous investor adventurous investor patient investor. we get it, you've bought shares, lack hair on top & make videos about it.
@Dimitris_1987
@Dimitris_1987 2 жыл бұрын
Hamish, ASOS update please. They are selling at a price to book ratio of 0.7 which is low as fuck. I averaged down and will buy more at this range.
@IIIlIllIllllII
@IIIlIllIllllII 2 жыл бұрын
You are buying a company with negative Cash Flow?
@Dimitris_1987
@Dimitris_1987 2 жыл бұрын
@@IIIlIllIllllII yes, it’s only a small portion of my portfolio. But do you understand that the equity is almost 1.5 times the market cap? If they liquidate you get 1.5 your money back.
@eTexperience
@eTexperience 2 жыл бұрын
I will be selling puts on Micron
@ebianboy
@ebianboy 2 жыл бұрын
Great content! TSM will be another interesting company to look into once you have some knowledge of semiconductor.
@aightm8
@aightm8 2 жыл бұрын
Moore's law slowing down effects the capex moat though. Easier for new players to enter if the goalposts for the equipment don't keep moving
@gobrewers111
@gobrewers111 Жыл бұрын
False
@aightm8
@aightm8 Жыл бұрын
@@gobrewers111 no not false. Tens of billions of capex is the biggest barrier of entry into semi conductors. If the manufacturing processes weren't changing all the time. Then the equipment would get cheaper, competition would enter the market and margins would go down. Go invest in an ETF before you blow up your account, you know nothing
@ssing7113
@ssing7113 2 жыл бұрын
Correct is wrong. That’s saying noonish is basically only holding MU? And that means LiLu is holding 1/3
@Mossberg930
@Mossberg930 2 жыл бұрын
Had my eye on MU but it's outside my circle. Sounds like it is inching towards a commodity business as the limits of size approach their minimum. Then at that point, we would look for the lowest cost producer. Have not looked into it but that must be Micron.
@John_Smith100
@John_Smith100 2 жыл бұрын
He's right but this isn't the bottom for semis
@Mossberg930
@Mossberg930 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know? If you can predict the market so well, I should give you my money!
@macfin4862
@macfin4862 2 жыл бұрын
Geez look at all those luminaries holding this. Feels like I'm looking at Ali Baba a year/50% ago.
@aryanmaheshwari2613
@aryanmaheshwari2613 2 жыл бұрын
Crocs, GoPro and Quad Graphics
@DavidMM255
@DavidMM255 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanations Hamish! I really enjoyed the video.
@sashwat2556
@sashwat2556 2 жыл бұрын
hello, i am international student , interested career in investment company, which course is high demand in AUS, MS in Finance, Ms In financial Analysis at Latrobe, ms in quantatitive finance in UTS?
@user-fx8xg8xj1y
@user-fx8xg8xj1y 2 жыл бұрын
Business English.
@DavidSmith-do6ji
@DavidSmith-do6ji 2 жыл бұрын
Well worth subscribing guys! One of the best financial channels on KZbin.. :-)
@kidadd
@kidadd 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Hamish! Good video.
@ashariariya6516
@ashariariya6516 Жыл бұрын
Ram akan jadi SSD untuk data center 💥💥💥💥
@warathanuts.1005
@warathanuts.1005 2 жыл бұрын
Semiconductor industry is a tough industry. As we are heading to more and more intensity of resistors of small chips. It becomes really expensive to build and manufacturing small chips. Because of the high cost investment upfront to build and expand fabs. Micron will not be able to withstand very expensive investment for a new fabs of every new breakthrough technologies. High cost entering the industry will eliminate small, medium and news companies to enter/survive in semiconductor industry. That will leave us only 3 big companies TSMC, Intel and Samsung.
@brainstormer2520
@brainstormer2520 2 жыл бұрын
For Buffett, the best holding period, when he buys a stock, is forever. Is Micron a good stock to hold forever? How will Micron look like after 10 years? How will it look like after 20 years? I'm not sure. So, it's too hard for me.
@LL-wc4wn
@LL-wc4wn 2 жыл бұрын
I dont at all agree with the notion alp value investors like to see what others are doing. Warren Buffett says when he looks in the mirror in the morning everybody has had their say. Im sure you know the quote already. Copying is lame and wont lead to good returns long run. You need to make good decisions based on reasons not copying. I disagree strongly with Pabrais cloning idea.
@Growth-Value
@Growth-Value 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that cloning mindlessly is a terrible idea but what pabrai is suggesting is to look what your respected investors are buying and try to figure out why they are buying. If you can understand the thesis maybe it might be a good buy. Cloning is more of a way to screen potential stocks rather than actually just copying and not doing a deeper dive.
@LL-wc4wn
@LL-wc4wn 2 жыл бұрын
@@Growth-Value the problem is most people will just simply clone. If you are an intelligent investor you will have already discovered such stocks yourself and own them and then concur with other investors who also own it. If you found out about it on yourube its pretty safe to say you are going about it backwards and will mindlessly clone and your analysis will be swayed
@brainstormer2520
@brainstormer2520 2 жыл бұрын
@@Growth-Value Do you happen to know what the annual return of Pabrai is, since the inception of his fund? I've been looking for that figure for sometime now, but couldn't find it. Many people call Pabrai a legendary investor. What's his real performance though? I mean are there any numbers that show that his performance has actually been higher than average?
@LL-wc4wn
@LL-wc4wn 2 жыл бұрын
@@brainstormer2520 idk what his returns are but, in line with my op, it really doesnt matter unless you are trying to clone him. Your brain's power is all that matters if you are actively investing money. Other wise you probably shouldnt be
@brainstormer2520
@brainstormer2520 2 жыл бұрын
@@LL-wc4wn I don't believe in cloning anyone.
@phantomcreamer
@phantomcreamer 2 жыл бұрын
But, if the technology becomes less innovation dependant, then the innovative moats of these companies also evaps
@amid_invests
@amid_invests 2 жыл бұрын
Wow a lot of science here Did you study electronics bro ?
@גלשדה
@גלשדה 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hamish, you make a compelling case for the future, but, new technologies are coming along, like carbon based transistors, so capital expenditure will not decay. However, memory consumption is doubling every two years on edge devices, and on cloud computing so the demand is growing rapidly
@kaizeremm
@kaizeremm 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Learned a lot from your content! I hope to contribute more to your success by continually commenting and liking your videos!
@sunaxes
@sunaxes 2 жыл бұрын
Holding a stock forever is a stupid idea. You can do exponentially better by simply checking your portfolio from time to time and letting go of those which underperform.
@thestudentofdhandho5302
@thestudentofdhandho5302 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hamish. This analysis was great. I came to similar conclusions with Micron - super interesting but probably too hard for me rn
@abu4729
@abu4729 2 жыл бұрын
They are already in MU. It's too late. MU got to $90+ back in Nov 21 then crashing since. I'd rather not be the escape goat. MU sells to big corporations, they're always negotiating for lower prices, Moore's law means higher capacity in smaller space, doesn't mean prices higher too 😁
@derekperry1853
@derekperry1853 2 жыл бұрын
It’s scapegoat not escape goat
@gobrewers111
@gobrewers111 Жыл бұрын
They are making it less cyclical by having companies sign huge contracts and pay upfront. The way they are expanding and their margins I feel it's a great stock. I made out like a bandit buying in the 40s in 2018. Will easily be a 100$ stock within 2 years. Their Capex is insane and the moat to compete is extremely high. Great US company.
@tadakimasu
@tadakimasu 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing what you learnt. Bc of the complexity of the industry I was tackling it purely on liquidation value per share. And now Biden has just signed a bill which will help improve the sector, that just adds more value to the sector.
@felixpeel3518
@felixpeel3518 2 жыл бұрын
Highly competitive? It’s an oligopoly only three main players in the memory space.
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