Why Everyone Hated - Peter Pan & Wendy

Disney is back at it again with what is one of it's lowest rated live action reboots yet, Peter Pan & Wendy... this should be fun!
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[@cris4ever70]

I hate the fake girlboss movement because I’m a girl and I don’t feel empowered by an unlikeable girl going around telling me how the boys don’t have the power. Bruh. Just make good female characters, being girlboss is not a personality trait and Disney has made it one.

[@vetarlittorf1807]

The weird thing is that the original Wendy was already a strong character. She was brave, devoted, took shit from nobody and best of all, she grew from her journey and learned how awful it would be to never grow up and reconciled with her father. She was also motherly and sweet. But apparently Disney thinks that a girl who is not able to fight is weak. And they removed all the femininity from Wendy to the point where she wears pants instead of her iconic nightdress. It feels like Disney is telling girls that they must act like men in order to prosper.

[@cynicalperson161]

Also girls like Wendy are bossy and nasty to both girls and boys but they're empowering lol sure Disney

[@Disneyfan82]

This is not the Wendy I would ever want little girls looking up to as a role model and tell them boys and men are nothing and deserve nothing

[@alexfriedman918]

@@vetarlittorf1807 That’s the idea - they want men to be lapdogs, and women to be men! Why? Beats me…

[@estaextrana8486]

Totaly agree with you. Disney is giving us women a bad reputation, and a bad name. I don't understand why Disney hate men so much.

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

The fact that they made the “Lost Boys” all inclusive WAS SO DUMB The whole point of the Lost Boys is that “girls are too clever to get lost” that’s literally what the author did. And Wendy came in and showed them a maternal way, and it woke a lot of them up and made them wish for home, it also helped her grow up. You know, *have a character arc* And the live actions like “how fucking DARE you girls are JUST AS dumb as boys, you sexist misogynist blarghablarghah!”

[@prufan]

While the Peter Pan and Wendy film was a complete woke disaster, I don't think every single concept utilised was bad on principle, such as girls being in the group(call them Lost Kids or something), as long as they are tomboys and Wendy is the older motherly one, then it'd work just fine, she'd still be unique. Jane in the Return to Neverland sequel even became a Lost Girl and she was definitely more tomboy than her mother. In the original book(which I still treasure) I never really bought the reason for why there's just Lost boys, I figured that instead they had a want for adventure and that's why they were taken to Neverland.

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

Hey at least they’re promoting diversity by allowing the lost kids to include girls dumb enough to wander off

[@MarcioSilva-vf5wk]

Black Tinker bell was another failure, since they already have a black fairy in this universe, and simple ignore it

[@oliviarichman6035]

@@prufan agreed. girls can also benefit from a mother figure lol

[@BB-ed4om]

@@oliviarichman6035 well that was the point, biological differences. Not always, but usually young girls are much better students than young boys because they can sit still and listen, while boys are known for being more rambunctious, they distract others, and they’re inattentive. My sister and I were different in this way, even having the same mother with no dad in the home. Boys learn better with their hands, manipulating objects etc, where girls can easily excel in reading, writing, etc - much more cerebral in nature. None of these things are worse or better than the other, and that doesn’t mean there aren’t many exceptions. But for the most part, these are differences between boys and girls. Which is why Wendy needed to teach these wild boys some manners and help them grow up. Disney isn’t having that anymore. There can be no differences between boys and girls, hence the destruction of the “lost boys” theme. This is all part of the shaping of the culture, if we don’t see inherent differences we are much more likely to accept that gender is something that isn’t remotely biological and can easily be changed. To make the majority of people think this way they slowly chip away at the old ideas with movies like this, slowly blurring the lines over time. It may seem far fetched but it’s been going on for years now.

[@nadilenebudski]

The fact that she can fly after imagining all her "girl boss" moments, including dying alone on her couch was absolutely hilarious/sad/ utterly pathetic. 😂🤮

[@samcochran8203]

The moment she thought of that, my head was screaming... OLD! ALONE! DONE FOR!

[@wolfinpandafluffy3479]

And quite hypocritical when she literally use a fairy to fly, Tiger Lily skill, and the obedience of the lost boys to save the day. You know the same thing Peter did earlier and was punished to be slap for his reckless behavior.

[@stephenrice2063]

But she died alone on her couch still sticking it to the Patriarchy, so it's a total win!! Isn't it?

[@Dravianpn02]

​@@wolfinpandafluffy3479 yeah but she had lady bits and is a girl boss so it's okay when she does things she criticizes.

[@thejikzter6782]

It's so obvious that it's a self-insert of the showrunners that can't keep a guy in their life LMFAO

[@jaceyking5015]

What they did to Wendy in this remake is appalling. Sure, it's fine if young girls dream of adventure, and it's fine if some women grow up and don't have families of their own. But the absolute disrespect shown to Motherhood these days just makes me sick. Wendy's nurturing, motherly qualities were what made her character. She was the heart and soul of the original animated film. She was the one to tell kids that it's okay to grow up, but still have childlike dreams. And now in the remake she's just a shallow narcissist. I mean, that scene where she has to "think of her happy thoughts" and they are all about her growing up, being good at everything, flying a plane, going on adventures, then dying alone- what kind of a message is that to send to children, particularly little girls? As someone whose mother died when I was still young enough to need a mother, this really makes me sick. I hope if I ever have children, I can be a mother like the ANIMATED Wendy.

[@anabanana0101]

well said!! ❤

[@rescue9810]

They really missed the opportunity to make women, motherly again. It’s a major problem with society today. It’s been happening over the generations and I believe that’s why some men and women don’t know how to act. They weren’t and still aren’t being raised properly.

[@P.Whitestrake]

They made her aggressive, harsh, & tomboy. The original Wendy is loving, soft, nurturing, & mother-like.

[@awarlockunkindlyborn1353]

These are my exact thoughts, too! I'm a woman who is about as unlike the original Wendy as it gets, but I have so much respect for those who are motherly and nurturing. It's a power I don't have. Wendy's strength was being motherly, and it was powerful enough to get all the Lost Boys and Peter to obey her. They completely removed that and gave her some of Peter's roles instead. I agree that we shouldn't be pushing all girls into mothering roles. I would have _hated_ that life. But it makes me so angry that Disney is teaching kids that a woman is lesser if she is kind and nurturing instead of adventurous and good at fighting. Absolutely sickening lesson.

[@jessecollins6827]

Hit it right on the head 💯

[@GeekOwtLowd]

I love the contrast of Wendy saying "You're not all boys." "So?!" "I suppose it doesn't really matter." And then later saying "This magic belongs to no boy!". Which is it? Does it matter or not?

[@everythinggirly916]

Both of these lines were so forced. 😂 If I were in Wendy's place, I would say "Actually, it's Tinkerbell's magic." Also at this point in the movie, Peter was still thought to be dead, so it feels kinda inconsiderate.

[@msudoc]

That exchange was obnoxious.

[@Fukthm-ir3zs]

But you're not all boyeeeees! Listen to how weird she says it

[@finkwood]

The pessimist in me thinks it was Disney's way of saying that little girls can be boys in 2023.🤷‍♂️

[@EuroMIX2]

A la carte equality in action. Girls are equal to boys when they want to be included, but superior when they otherwise want to be.

[@MarcTheLoneGamer]

What Disney is doing with these classics is downright criminal at this point.

[@mulbahwaiwaiku9668]

​@Riley Garraway 😂

[@MorizMusterman]

i just hope they won't reboot gargoyles

[@wolfinpandafluffy3479]

​@rileygarrawayThere are plenty of other stories or retailing that explain how Hook eventually came to Nederland. Like for example, "Peter and the Starcatchers" explains Hook came to Neverland at the same time as Peter did, after he attempted to overthrow the boat Peter was sailing. It isn't reasonable that adults exist in Neverland when literally Tiger Lily father, Mermaids, and pirates exist as character in the novel.

[@thefriendlyelephant1280]

​@Riley Garraway Are you ok?

[@bottlethrower1544]

Cultural vandalism, trashing beautiful and cherished worlds and adding nothing of beautiful

[@birgik]

Wendy is EXACTLY like the bigger, confident girl at school who bullied and was mean to the smaller girls.

[@P.H691]

I once had a girl like that in my old school, every time she's in the room, me and the boys had to fight the temptation to kick her into a wall and tie her onto a pole, just to get her to shut up. I sorta wished someone did that to her as holy shit, I wished she would stop being an asshole

[@dissect123]

"Forced inclusion is just as bad as exclusion" Perfect summary for all of modern Hollywood. Please use that line in every video from now on.

[@ethanhinton4549]

Inclusion is like frosting, a great addition to something, but it can't be the substance of the thing or you have garbage.

[@ThatRandomEncounterGuy]

This is something I’ve been seeing around called “Inclusivity bias”-essentially, people like this think they can only show diversity and inclusivity by tearing down someone else (if it’s gender, then all the men have to be either completely useless or snarling bigoted woman-hating thugs/condescending assholes, and presenting the “only good one” as a simpering, sexless doormat or gay; if it’s race, the only acceptable choice is to use white people and make them as evil, reprehensible, and toxic as possible to make our diverse leads to strong and cool for taking them down) or, alternatively, advertising how inclusive they are by just having a box-checking protagonist and having everyone else in the story kissing their ass and saying how fucking awesome they are and anyone who isn’t is treated as racist/sexist/homophobic/just a general villain to be punched or ignored (regardless of how boring or horrendous said protagonist actually is). I don’t know why people keep thinking they can get away with doing this-it’s yet to see even moderate success (outside of the one time Star Wars Episode 7 hit big; which has yet to be repeated by the franchise in literally any form since), burning down and outright ruining franchises en Masse (said Star Wars), original series being rejected faster than NFTs, not because of bigots and trolls but because people are smarter than this and want to see good storytelling and interesting characters, not political agendas and checkbox-checking flavorless oatmeal. THIS! ISN’T! HARD!

[@nikibogwater6598]

Speaking as one of the "oppressed" women that Disney is trying to "empower," this version of Wendy made me cringe so hard it was physically painful. Anyways, welcome back Johnny! Loved your commentary here, both funny and insightful.

[@Disneyfan82]

What women are being oppressed on their part?

[@PJ-gm1hb]

Disney is the one who's oppressing woman by writing them as the same awful single type character in every movie and show.

[@Disneyfan82]

@@PJ-gm1hb They're not even real women, just feminazis who make real women look bad and untrustworthy.

[@wholethedogsout880]

@@Disneyfan82 name checks out

[@Disneyfan82]

@@wholethedogsout880 Excuse me?

[@DKyle327]

Tiger Lilly should have said. The rock doesn’t fly because it looks down, you can fly because you look up at the stars.

[@alannothnagle]

Yes, I immediately thought of that too! It seems that not only Rings of Power but now also Peter Pan were scripted by an early beta version of ChatGPT!! It‘s hard to imagine any living, breathing human churning out dialogue this bad.

[@taracarroll4218]

​@@alannothnagle My shot in the dark is Rings Of Power was a tax money laundering scheme for Amazon. I mean, it had a budget of over 700 million and yet looked so cheaply made.

[@alannothnagle]

@Tara Carroll Yes, „follow the money“ is always a good approach, particularly in this case.

[@Mario-im1rk]

Wendy in this movie is the type of person to say "We're not all guys" to someone who said "Hey guys."

[@arcticwolflover263]

me wanting to strangle this version of wendy with all the rightious fury i can muster and scream at her face she sucks

[@sarveshkhapre3127]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@awarlockunkindlyborn1353]

What's funny is, in the book, the Darlings have to do a whole lot of math to figure out whether they can afford to keep each of their kids as they're born. So leaving all the lost boys in their care would almost certainly bankrupt them. Disney's approach to "girl power" has always given me so much second hand embarrassment as a woman. Wendy had her strengths in the original story, and instead of building off them, they completely erased them and gave her some of Peter's roles instead, which makes the movie boring because there's no balance when all the characters have the same abilities. I wish it wasn't taboo these days for a film to suggest that being kind and motherly is a good strength for a woman to have. I'm a huge fan of badass female characters like Ellen Ripley from the Alien franchise, but even the "badass" female characters we get these days are poorly written and far less believable. It's insulting that they are putting so much spotlight on female inclusivity and empowerment, yet they still end up one-dimensional and boring. And why doesn't Tinkerbell hate Wendy?!? Her entire role in the story is to create conflict with her jealousy and then turn a new leaf to save her. It's called character development! They're afraid of putting a woman with flaws on screen, even if those flaws are replaced with positive growth, and that's why these characters are so flat. No flaws = no growth, and no growth is boring. Angry, incoherent rant over.

[@fattybumflake1602]

Good rant. Not incoherent at all.

[@samanthapateman8054]

Yeah even Ripley in the Alien films was motherly and she’s the most boss lady, well most of Sigourney Weaver characters are bad arse feminine motherly wise people.

[@ethanhinton4549]

That's the weird paradox of modern feminism and "girl power" stuff; it actually belittles and demonizes positive feminine qualities, and seems to act like masculine qualities are the only positive ones, while also demonizing men for those exact qualities and insisting they act more like women.

[@awarlockunkindlyborn1353]

@@samanthapateman8054 good point! I had forgotten how protective she was of Newt in the second film. That just goes to show that you can have a character be both! They had no reason to erase Wendy's motherly qualities.

[@lorenzomabalos9851]

If the Darlings had to keep the Lost diverse children, they would most likely put them to use as child laborers or a one way ticket to Australia.

[@sofiaalmeidacruz4264]

Anyone remember the Peter Pan live action from 2003? It was so beautiful! I’m just gonna pretend that this Disney remake doesn’t exist

[@Andoroid]

Honestly with how *amazing* the 2003 one was, I'm not ever going too consider Peter Pan and Wendy as a "live action adaptation". It feels completely money driven and it's unnecessary since the 2003 one was already done with so much care for the original source material. It's aged so well too

[@DanielleSantos711]

2003's Peter Pan is my favorite live action. I have it on DVD and it's on Netflix.

[@MissyFaith1971]

The 2003 version was really great. It's quite underrated. I am going to use exclusion here, this movie is excluded from existence.

[@akvanvuuren]

Loved that one!!

[@riotd.r.8363]

"Did they learn nothing from Mulan?" No, my friend, Disney never seems to learn the right thing.

[@friendsdontlie011]

Kinda makes you feel bad for the young actors and actresses who probably enjoyed making the movie, only to have the movie hated because the writers took a shit on the story.

[@darkrobsl]

I was thinking the same, the boys Will be marked by the movie Who got 16% on crítics, but the problems its not by their fault

[@Xolcm]

The supreme form of irony is that Wendy was able to fly for the exact reason Hook wasn't able to fly in the last live action version. "Old. Alone. Done for."

[@mechazoic]

Honestly this “Redeem the misunderstood antagonist” thing that Disney is doing to all their classic villains has gotten really tired. There’s a reason why people preferred the unapologetically evil villains like Big Jack Horner and Bowser Koopa, they’re just so much more fun to watch!

[@diegodubber2140]

Yeah. Villains that are just 100% pure, unadulterated evil.

[@estaextrana8486]

It's not the redemption itself that is the problem. It's the fact that it's used way, way, way to much. Psycopaths, sociopaths and narcissistic people still exist you know.

[@diegodubber2140]

@@estaextrana8486 Yeah. And we shouldn't shelter kids away from them. We should show them that there ARE people like them out there and teach kids how to deal with said people.

[@estaextrana8486]

@@diegodubber2140 There is a possibility that young children who see these kind of movies, will end up believing every bad person can turn good, if they try to change them somehow. This will probabely end in abusive relationships and toxic friendships. In this world, there are genuinly bad people who will NOT change just because you will tell them kind things. At best, they'r gonna laught at you, at worst they'r gonna hurt you

[@mechazoic]

@@estaextrana8486 All fair points. I have no problem with a sympathetic or nuanced villain as it adds some depth to the character but sometimes you just want to see the bad guy get what’s coming to them.

[@MaddieMoon3]

Funny is how Disney is kicking employees out because of the shadow of bankruptcy... but they keep doing horrible movies 😂 I think employees are not the problem, but decisions to keep making horrible remakes.

[@buccaneercat]

The lowly workers forced to make these crap movies are the ones getting the hammer dropped on them, while the disconnected 1% at the top of the company, who are ultimately responsible for making the crappy decisions and tainting the company’s image, get to keep their jobs. I’m sure some crappy workers have been fired, but the suits responsible for everything are still sitting safe and pretty as the company continues to crumble beneath them.

[@Deetroiter]

I’m starting to think Disney is the cartoon division of a certain political administration to push their agendas. There’s absolutely no way that Disney can pull a total 180 almost overnight compared to what they used to be.

[@michaelusswisconsin6002]

That and also they keep the woke writers.

[@usonohoshi6165]

From what I can understand of the plot. It's basically a badly mix version of the original Peter Pan and it's sequel Return to Neverland. The way they wrote Wendy is less like Wendy and more like her daughter, Jane, in the sequel. Minus a good reason of her attitude. It made sense for Jane because she was growing up during war. This is why she and Peter were more at odds and fighting during the sequel. She had to force herself to grow up and can't act childish like Peter and the lost boys. The difference is, Jane's hard exterior feel understandable. While Wendy's feels shallow.

[@Trencher1375]

Wendys dream showed us that the entire message of this movie was to reject motherhood and embrace collectivism

[@LucasBR702]

​@Riley Garraway so you're saying dying alone is a happy thought?

[@aidenkelly9641]

@Riley Garraway when youre old and alone at 60 youll be wishing you didnt hold those beliefs when you were younger

[@samcochran8203]

@Riley Garraway You think dying alone is a happy thought? I have one thing to say to that "OLD! ALONE! DONE FOR!" The lost boys chanting down Hook, Peter Pan 2003, best peter pan adaptation ever!

[@Needler13]

It's not collectivism, it's toxic individualism that is plaguing America. It's "fuck you I got mine" mentality these Americans have that just seep into everything now.

[@alexfriedman918]

@Riley Garraway I have no problem with someone choosing such a lifestyle - it’s their life! What I do have a problem with is a barrage of movies and shows, aimed specifically at girls and very young women, telling them that if you want to be strong and independent, that’s the life you have to lead! Conversely, if you make a different choice, you are weak, pathetic, submissive, and a traitor to your entire gender! Smacks of bitter, angry, spiteful, self-loathing, shriveled up (body and soul) middle aged women, trying to make every woman as miserable as they made themselves, just so that they don’t have to feel inferior!

[@P.Whitestrake]

Not just Wendy, but all main female characters Disney pushes nowadays with "girl power" & "strong female character" so much, they make their main female characters soulless, wooden, plain, flat, & stagnant. Something that all writers should avoid in writing a good character.

[@zionleach3001]

Then when it comes to good shows like Arcane people still call it woke. 😒🙄 I know everyone is entitled to their opinions. But the 'strong female characters' are actually likeable and have flaws.

[@GokuBlackRose978]

@@zionleach3001then their opinions are complete trash, I have not seen all of arcane but it’s not “woke”.

[@taracarroll4218]

I'm starting to wonder if this is another reason for the writers strike currently happening? How many drafts of this script was written before it was broken down into a bland, generic mess? Remember the scene in the South Park episode Banned In China where Stan is writing his movie and the Chinese general keeps showing his disgust and demanding he rewrites it? That's I'm imagining the Disney writer's room.

[@dewolf123]

​@@zionleach3001 What? Weird, I always saw ppl actually complimenting the show for not being woke if anything. They respected and treated both men and women in that show equally.

[@zionleach3001]

@@dewolf123 It's almost like they watched a completely different show. Saying all the men are 'evil or pathetic failures' and the women all get happy endings. I think the dude was smoking crack. I mean there's no way Tomb raider movies, Aliens, and or Torchwood could be made today.

[@mattj809]

This looks really bad. It's pretty much expected now: Disney has tried so hard with the girl power that I expect only strong females now. Wendy's so strong and not afraid even tho she's never met a pirate or left home but she'll defend Peter because she's such a brave girl! 😆

[@escarretada]

i don´t mind strong females but the majority write them reallly really bad they are always toxic and far from being humble

[@missAlice1990]

She'll defend Peter, who fought pirates pretty much his whole life. But Wendy, you see, is excellent at sword fighting, too. Why, you ask? Because.

[@P.Whitestrake]

Disney pushes "girl power" & "strong female character" so much, they make their main female characters soulless, wooden, plain, flat, & stagnant. Something that all writers should avoid in writing a good character.

[@waynehewett4017]

It's not just bad It's almost as bad as shehulk ,willow and little mermaid

[@waynehewett4017]

@@missAlice1990 I thought this was ray from starwars Same crap difference movie

[@crazyfunguyphil7]

Hook (1991) is the only live action Peter Pan I need. Hoffman's Hook is just as you describe, wildly unpredictable and cunning but also over confident. Plus he keeps his signature hook EXTREMELY sharp and shiny. The Lost Boys are... boys. The Darlings are very English and Neverland looks like a magical fairy land, not some featureless rock.

[@onefailatatime]

Hook is the best. You know they were supposed to make a Ruffio sequel. Imagine how cool that would have been.

[@fsolisiii]

I love this movie

[@johnstrife7]

2003 live action was underrated

[@isobelduncan]

The 2003 one was good too. Osar Isaacs as Hook was both charming and terrifying, especially when he manipulates Wendy.

[@livinglife5295]

Yeah the 2003 version is better but alright 😂

[@_diamante2002]

- completely changed the IP to chase modern audiences - emasculating men - lifeless, bland, boring colorless atmosphere - lost "boys" with girls in them which completely misses the point on why wendy is the only female in the squad - blackwashing (apparently everything is supposed to be black nowadays, if you don't agree, you are a racist) - girlboss (which completely overpowers 2 of captain hooks's crew at the same time despite them having twice her body weight and 10x the experience) - mary sue (because when it comes to female characters, showing flaws and overcoming them is a sign of weakness apparently) - forced inclusion that no one asked for - tinkerbell bland asf with no shine and light whatsoever and devoid of any emotions (which is a complete 180 from the bright, filled with life and expression despite having no dialogue whatsoever) Disney: Oh no, why did it fail.

[@anadmirer8789]

If Peter had slapped Wendy, there’d be hell to pay among fans! Why is the reverse considered ok? I say Wendy in this version is a BULLY! On a related note, I ❤️ the snarky humor in this video!

[@freshbrewedasmr3378]

Peter Pan 2003 is criminally underrated. It made my childhood magical and I love watching it today.

[@MajorSmurf]

Let's not forget one of the really amazing things about Peter pan is the hidden dark themes just under the surface that you catch glimpses of through out the original. Peter pan is based on European folk tales which are not happy tales. Mermaids, Fairies, Trolls and what not were all a bunch of nasty creatures. Peter pan casually remarking how he cut hooks hand off. How the Mermaids admit to trying to drown Wendy as it's just a bit of fun. How Captain Hook almost drowns Tiger lily. Also the OG Captain Hook screaming Mr Smee is one of the most iconic things I love about Hook. Whenever he's in trouble! SMEE!!!!!! The OG crocodile has so much personality I love him. The new one is yet again a bland realistic croc. Does he even have the tick tock in this film as I refuse to watch it. Tinkerbell not being jealous of Wendy is another thing that annoys the hell of me. I know exactly why they didn't do it and it's because Disney writers are cowards who are scared to get called an ist or phobe by Twitter. The animated original may have it's fault but dam it's such an amazing animated film full to brim of depth for an adult to digest. Now this is likely because the OG writer for that film cared about the original source material. I don't think new Disney writers can read which explains why they can't write either.

[@googleislame]

Yeah, in the animated version, Tinker Bell straight up tries to get Wendy killed.

[@thesardonicpig3835]

God, I love the SMEEEEEEEEEE scream! Actually, that's where the real "sympathetic-ness" of Hook comes from. It doesn't come from a forced tragic backstory, it comes from his tragicomic vulnerabilities. There's a passage in the book from Hook's perspective that reveals he has a passion for music and loves playing the harpsicord, and feels misunderstood by his crew who are not as sophisticated as he is. THAT'S a sympathetic villain. (With that said, I'm not against giving Hook a "tragic" backstory per se. It's always interesting to do new things with a character. But actually put some effort into it. Have fun with it. There's some stuff about his past in the book already, so they could have used that.)

[@MajorSmurf]

@@thesardonicpig3835 Honestly all the VA's did an amazing job in that film for their time. Like the audio is very dated now but Disney could clean that up easy with some fresh VA's and sound engineers but no their live action fetish continues.

[@Disneyfan82]

What does Tink's jealousy towards Wendy have anything to do with being sexist or homophobic or whatever crap those cowardly writers are afraid of?

[@awarlockunkindlyborn1353]

I would have loved to see more hints of darker themes. Another one from the book is the fact that the lost boys still age, and when they get too old, Peter "takes them on a long walk" and they're not seen again. Peter is scary in the book without being a villain, and that portrayal of him has always been my favorite. I know this is meant to be a kids movie, but I would have adored those darker hints as a kid. It would have intrigued the hell out of me. The fact that Tinkerbell isn't her jealous, problematic, murderous self really pisses me off. It's both a major source of conflict and a reason for her to have interesting character development later on when she saves Wendy. But NOOO you can't put a woman with FLAWS on screen. It's pathetic lol.

[@Oversite869]

“Neverland is the same island where Luke Skywalker drank alien tiddy milk”😂 I been laughing since

[@toodlescae]

Jesus! Christopher Reeve as Superman flying in 1978 was more realistic than that crap.

[@EvilExcalibur]

Girlboss Wendy's Girl Power Powow featuring guest appearance by Peter Pan is exactly what we expected and that makes it even sadder. But on the bright side at least the hacktivists at Disney were able to combat racism with racism and empowered women by replacing femininity with masculinity.

[@wholethedogsout880]

femininity is villainized by disney

[@dewolf123]

​@@wholethedogsout880 Which is weird because I thought the whole point of Disney making princesses was to inspire how important feminity is. Walt would vomit from his corpse (or dust from it) at this point.

[@marcusclark1339]

the irony of her being sent to boarding school is her entire happy dream would require probably being sent that very school, her entire arc is a non issue, all the issue she had was just not realizing it, basically she's a selfish spoiled brat and never realizing it so much is indeed heavy handed politics - cheap modern feminist ideologue shoved into a 18th century character that doesn't make sense and makes her seem vain and morally as bad as Peter is shown here but worse cause they made him less morally bad

[@OcarinaSapphr-]

Late 19th c, but yes- all your points were valid. I have an annotated copy of the book & I will never give it up (I wish I also had a DVD/VCR to play my copy of the animated original my mother bought on VHS)- virtually all these revisionist versions of classics are a waste of wonderful material, to push sh*tty political narratives... SMH

[@felicity1877]

not to forget: ability of flying is connected with childhood, so it's quite stupid that her happy thoughts of accepting growing up is the scene in which she learns to fly. They abused the flying metaphor for a coming of age moment and girl empowerment, yet, this is the exact opposite in the novel...as grown ups are too heavy-hearted to fly actually (;

[@arcticwolflover263]

this wendy will end up growing up to be a tiktok influencer

[@missAlice1990]

8:48 Oh. Come. On. So Hook is talking to Wendy, not paying attention to Peter at all for a few minutes at least, and Peter's just STANDING THERE doing nothing? The real Peter was so quick and clever that he could easily take advantage of only a moment of his opponent's distraction. But this guy pretending to be Peter, will just... just stand there waiting for whatever happens next?

[@v1e1r1g1e1]

Most versions of Peter Pan and Wendy (other than the Disney version) suck because the show-runners don't understand J. M. Barrie's symbolism throughout his masterpiece. Barrie's original play is received well by children because they respond to all the fun, excitement and world of the imagination: ''I believe in fairies!''. The play is - or was once - understoof by adults because we are all-too-aware of our mortality and what it takes to keep Human civilisation going. Sadly, it is symptomatic that the Millennials and Gen Z don't get Peter Pan and think they can mess around with the original story to serve modern sensibilities. Peter Pan represents the spirit of Masculine Youth: eternally self-confident and optimistic and oblivious to danger, energetic and inspirational, he is eternally egocentric, absolutely assured that all is possible. Lost Boys: Can ONLY be males... because it is ONLY males who fear the expectations of maturity... (which will turn them into so many Captain Hooks). Unsurprisingly, they yearn for a Mother who will allow them to stay in their puerile state; where imagination and egocentricity are more important than pragmatism, responsibility and duty. Anyone who thinks the Lost BOYS can include girls just doesn't understand [or is caught up in some hopeless quest to deny] the fundamental spiritual and physiological-psychological differences between men and women. Wendy: represents the tension between Girlhood and encroaching Womanhood. Pan captivates the longings she has to have adventures; Captain Hook is a reminder to her that she is on the verge of inevitable Womanhood - she will, and must, grow up - simply because such a condition is unavoidable for women. Tinkerbell (and the Mermaids) represent the spirit of Feminine Youth: Inherently mature and worldy-wise, mysterious, elusive, captivating and while eternally self-assured in their beauty and magical power over men, they are subject to lapses into furious jealousy and insecurities that they will not be loved. Captain Hook represents Age... and Ageing: civilised, urbane, controlled, organised... but horribly aware of - and terrified by - the limitations of mortality and encroaching death The Crocodile: represents Death which devours us all: Also, it is the Shadow aspect of our mortality; how it makes us do cruelties to ourselves and others because we are all-too-aware that we will die The Clock (swallowed by the crococile and ever-accompanying it); the unwelcome warning that Death is approaching

[@gokuxsephiroth4505]

*"Lost Boys: Can ONLY be males... because it is ONLY males who fear the expectations of maturity..."* *"Wendy: represents the tension between Girlhood and encroaching Womanhood."* Huh. Even your own words makes it sound like girls also feel fear towards growing up and maturing, buddy. I had to go to therapy for several years to face my crippling fears of adulthood as a late teen as well, and I'm a girl. You make some good points, but some of your views on gender are as antiquated as the time period in which Peter Pan came out. I mean: *"Tinkerbell (and the Mermaids) represent the spirit of Feminine Youth: Inherently mature and worldy-wise"* Inherently mature? Tinkerbell tried to murder Wendy out of jealousy and purposefully sabotaged many of their plans! If that's what you count as mature, you can keep me out of it lol

[@stevecrompton9910]

Can you imagine ANY modern childrens film where a male character would slap s female character accross the face? But its ok for a female to slap a smaller younger looking boy for no apparrent reason!?

[@borabora1309]

at this point, the person who runs Disney right now, must have a personal vendetta against Walt Disney. lol

[@CEAsfg]

It's so funny that Wendy decides to grow up based on a vision she has where she reads a book, writes on a typewriter, rides on a train, and dies on a couch alone.

[@Dogheadpunch]

The 2003 Peter pan movie was truly a work of art, that felt like it held actual magic. Wendy felt powerful in that, as a character, and in no way felt helpless. She saved Peter from giving up. Plenty of films and shows have women front and center, as the primary hero. But Wendy didn't feel front and center, in that film, but neither did Peter. They both were. The lost boys cared for and looked after, by both. She was something they had all been looking for. But never knew they needed. She was an enriching character. Not this foul and snobby mentally unbalanced self centered brat that they put into this garbage film.

[@hatuletoh]

I really appreciate how disney puts some of the worst moments of their films and TV shows--not all, but many of them--in the trailers. Not only does it make it easy to know which shows to avoid like the plague, but the trailers allow me to do so while still be able to understand and appreciate the absolute roasting the shows eventually get. It's really convenient.

[@namelessnavnls8060]

The fact that Wendy berates Peter for a problem he didn't even have in the movie they're remaking is further "girl power" shoehorning and shoving in your face... In the original movie, Peter could clearly fly, and was not relying ONLY on Tinkerbell's pixie dust to do so.. (He used it a bit while showing Wendy and her brothers how to fly, but it was not the *only* thing that allowed him.) But in this movie?? Peter can't fly on his own at all :) That'd imply he's competent and boys can do cool things that girls can do!! He can't do that. Only Wendy can fly on her own because she's a big strong girl.

[@MarcioSilva-vf5wk]

That "This magic belongs to no boy!" part made me facpalm so hard that left a mark.

[@Maerahn]

Yeah, I think they were trying to LOTR-Eowyn Wendy in that moment, but dropped the ball so hard it left a crater.

[@thefriendlyelephant1280]

I was just on Facebook and I saw a bunch of people liking this movie, and I am disgusted by all those people. They seem to like the messages in this movie: "Men are terrible, it's ok to physically abuse men, magic is only good in women's hands, and the happiest a woman can be is by dying all alone." This sort of Feminist messaging is doing so much harm and nobody is doing anything about it. Girls will grow up thinking that being a mother is the worst thing that can happen to them, and they should always be alone because asking for help makes them weak. Telling boys that they are terrible people for being born a boy will make them grow up with resentment for themselves. Men already have a high suicide rate, and giving them the message that they are terrible people for being born is only going to increase that. A few weeks ago I was about ready to end it all. In my everyday life I keep seeing messages that make me feel like a monster for being born a male. I even looked up on Google if the world would be better off without men. That's how dark things got for me. I was lucky that my friends and family got me through that dark time. Seeing people that supports this messaging is disgusting. Disney is now a company with no soul because that they think it's ok to deliver these messages to their audience. I want to say a couple of things for everyone that might see this comment. To all girls out there: "Don't be afraid to ask for help. Everyone can always use a helping hand." To all the boys out there: "It doesn't matter if you were born a boy or a girl. You matter just as much as everyone else."

[@thecensoredmuscle563]

They are either bots or the few people pretending to like the movie.

[@thefriendlyelephant1280]

​@@thecensoredmuscle563 Would explain a lot actually

[@buldrux217]

Disney still using minimum effort, trying to get maximum profits

[@robbinsnest6163]

Why did they have to make hook use the line from another villain? That's literally what scar says about mufasa.... the sheer laziness of Disney is astounding.

[@venti726]

Is that line from Mufasa on live action? Cuz I never watch It. I only watch the OG movie, I didn't remember that.

[@robbinsnest6163]

@@venti726 it's in the og. The scene where zazu is trapped and has to sing to scar he says mufasa's name and scar gets angry and says "you know the law never say that name in my presence!" Obviously not word for word but the line is said in a similar way and the only difference is scar says "that name" and hook says "his name" it's lazy writing because hook uses "that name" all the time. It's just an odd line for the character.

[@venti726]

@@robbinsnest6163 OOooh~ I guess It's while since I watch the OG lion king, since I don't remember some. Yea ur right, Disney movies nowadays. Doesn't have Idea's anymore.

[@DamenSpikeGamesHQ]

When Neverland looks like Craggy Island from Father Ted, you know the movie missed the point 😂

[@misamoto]

Nobody seems to be mentioning it, so I'll chip in. Those exterior shots are Faroe Islands, and it is one of the best looking places you can visit. There are practically no trees, so not an ideal location for Neverland. But it's one of the best places on Earth to do landscape photography. There are amazing cliffs that drop hundreds of meters into the sea, great volcanic peaks, waterfalls, lake hanging over the ocean line, original nordic architecture and lots and lots of sheep ... They, meaning Disney, did such a poor job capturing it on film and covered it with such an abysmal color grading, that I'm absolutely baffled by it. They really did Faroe Islands dirty.

[@ggrarl]

"The west side of the island used to be lovely, until it broke off during a storm and drifted away."

[@fatjon7369]

Your blue eyes look in to my soul. Please don't tell my girl friend. She is the one who told me about your channel. This better be funny.

[@thesardonicpig3835]

Hook's portrayal looks like a complete clusterf*ck - which makes it all the more disappointing, because I agree that the "I haven't got any" moment is pretty powerful on its own. If only Disney knew how to actually do sympathetic villains.

[@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967]

Or better yet not do sympathetic villains at all and stick to all time evil. That would be better as well as no former Lost Boy or former friend since it undermines his revenge over his hand cut off and fed to crocodile which the whole conflict is about in most adaptions.

[@thesardonicpig3835]

​@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 I dunno ... I agree that all-time evil (Scar, Maleficent, Dr Facilier etc.) is fun and aesthetically pleasing, but it's not interesting to me. They definitely shouldn't have given Hook a "Lost Boy" backstory since, yes, the hand-revenge story suffers from it. But "sympathetic villain" doesn't mean they can't be threatening or actually evil, or that you have to feel sorry for them 24/7. A great example of that, for me, is Silco. Or in fact Jason Isaacs' Hook from the 2003 live action version (which I just watched and realised that they ripped the "no happy thoughts" moment off from there!). 2003 Hook makes for a terrifying, evil monster of a villain, but one who has very defined and relatable weaknesses and has some great pathos as well as menace.

[@Chikara199]

Would be fun if they had made a female Peter Pan and then let the male Wendy/William whatever, slap the shit out of female Peter Pan. I am sure that Hollywood and all the woke would LOVE it!

[@noahschramm8406]

Velma: this is the worst show ever Peter Pan and Wendy: Hold my Bud Light

[@billybongthornton2091]

This movie made me appreciate the 2003 Peter Pan even more.

[@CEAsfg]

I personally don't want kids after I get married, but I would never judge anyone for wanting to be a parent. Sure it's not for everyone, but it's trashy to shame people for wanting to raise a family. Live and let live, right? Go and pursue your dreams, whether that be pursuing your dream career, traveling the world, or settling down and having kids.

[@Tadicuslegion78]

It struck me, just now. This movie reeks of someone was working on the first draft of a dark broody Peter Pan that wanted to explore the dark side of the Peter Pan story, and then in a couple more drafts iron out what they wanted to say but Disney came along, yanked the half finished first draft, threw a bunch of money at it and didn’t care what happened one way or another

[@hornedgod2873]

There’s a book called the Child Thief that did that about a decade ago. I feel like the writer/ director read it and did a terrible job of adapting it.

[@ruthiehenshallfan99]

Glad to see you back! Peter Pan was a favorite movie of mine growing up (I still have that Masterpiece Collection VHS). To celebrate Disney's 100th, I've been rewatching my favorite animated movies in their canon. Peter Pan has aged incredibly well in terms of animation, songs, characters and story telling. Was how the native tribe treated in this a major elephant in the room? Yes, that's something that can't be overlooked. Still, it is definitely a movie I can recommend and watch over and over myself. This movie? By the time it turns 70 (which the original is now), it will have long been forgotten.

[@OcarinaSapphr-]

Are VCR/DVD players players as expensive as I've heard, or did you just manage to keep your VCR in good condition?

[@ruthiehenshallfan99]

​@@OcarinaSapphr- I've managed to keep mine working well! It's also a DVD player, which is why we still have it. I just don't use it since I mostly collect and watch Blu Rays.

[@OcarinaSapphr-]

@@ruthiehenshallfan99 I wish we'd been able to maintain ours, or had the money for a VCR/ DVD recorder- & I worry about their condition...

[@ketsu6100]

I’ve talked to a native friend who watched the film when he was a kid and asked him about the natives in it. He said literally nobody cares, he thinks for a 1950s film it was actually a pretty flattering depiction of native hospitality and even today, if they simply touched up the character designs and introduced some native songs to the new movie he would have been thrilled.

[@blankadams3120]

If Peter's ability to fly belongs to anyone, it belongs to Tinkerbell, who did teach Peter, and, you know? Aids him by sprinkling faerie dust on him to fly? Hell, I could make an argument that Peter is just a Fae child who knows faeries, and, because they trust each other, they taught him how to fly.

[@spacedinosaur8733]

That what I remember, Peter's been soo long a part of Neverland, that he doesn't need (extra) pixie dust to fly. His blood has been suffused with the spice, giving him blue within blue eyes....sorry what was I talking about?

[@thecensoredmuscle563]

Peter's ability to fly actually does belong to him, which is what makes this film so ridiculous. Other children need pixie dust, where as Peter does not.

[@rebekahhenrie9950]

3:04 that's what I noticed too! I went back and watched the classic 1955 version, and I hadn't noticed how much the music was so integral to the movie. Every main character has music that plays when they're on screen, and there's no music in the new one!!! I can't believe they keep taking out the music in the new movies.

[@noylj1]

I loved Tiger Lily explaining that ships float because they look up to the light. Really deep thoughts and great explanation for the universe

[@greyhameavandhat1220]

That's sounds a lot like the Ring of Power explanation for why rocks sink and boats float on water

[@sharkinator7819]

Now I want some of that peace pipe

[@nathanbarr7114]

Disney's original names for the movie: "Wendy & TigerLily" and "Lost Girls and the Fabulous Adventures of Wendy"

[@pygmalion137]

Wendy would step in, take out her lightsaber and say, "I'm a Wendy, Wendy Skywalker!"

[@FunSizeSpamberguesa]

This just gives me a renewed appreciation for the 2003 film. It's probably the most faithful adaptation of the novel to date -- and it manages to give Wendy more agency than the novel while still keeping the core of her character. Admittedly, Captain Hook gave off some serious pedo vibes at times, but I don't think it's to the film's detriment -- it just makes him that much more menacing in a way that would fly right over kids' heads, but is effectively uncomfortable for an adult audience. This movie, on the other hand, looks like a damn train wreck.

[@musicman3569]

As to the laziness of these re-releases, my wife brought up a good point about it that I haven't heard discussed and may actually make a lot of sense as to why they do this. If you look back Disney has been accustomed to lazy income for a long time due to the natural progression of home media. When VHS came out, they got to release their material by merely transferring to a home medium and selling it at full price. Then DVD came out and they did it again, selling full-priced copies of all the movies again with the benefits of Widescreen and multi-channel audio (which even then they screwed up when they "re-voiced" things for digital audio with soulless voice over work that was often inferior to the originals). Then they rode the lazy, passive income tide again with Blu-Ray (with less success). But then, streaming came along and that whole cycle was gone. The benefits of "home media quality improvements" were pretty much tapped out, since the 4K versions of everything look great at any screen size (even movie theater size screens). So now, how were they going to justify re-releasing things at full price? This is all just a hypothesis on my part of course, but aside from the injected politics I do genuinely wonder if this is their attempt to maintain that specific legacy income of adding "visual quality" (which it isn't) while still saving costs by recycling old scripts? I could be way off base but it seems plausible.

[@Swiftbow]

Except they don't use the old scripts. They just use the titles and keep vague plot points intact. Ultimately, a big part of the problem is that they have a lot of woke employees who threaten to quit until Disney makes woke content. So they make woke content that loses money. And then they fire people, but the remaining woke employees still demand woke content. This isn't going to end well for them unless they restaff entirely. Though it should be mentioned that a lot of their remakes HAVE made money. But they've also been getting progressively worse and worse, especially as the nostalgia glasses have slowly been fading to reveal just how terrible these remakes are.

[@musicman3569]

@Swiftbow Yeah, I agree that this one went off the rails due to injected politics. I was more referring to ones like The Lion King and Beauty and the Beast that were almost verbatim, with minor tweaks here and there -- a far cry from the effort involved in a fresh new concept. But it seems to be evolving further and further into political hijacking instead of just creative laziness as time goes on, and you're probably spot on as to the reason.

[@Swiftbow]

@@musicman3569 The "minor" tweaks in those two movies were generally pretty woke alterations, too.

[@DragonmanX90]

They probably removed the whole jealousy angle because they didn't want to promote the idea of girls being at each other's throats over a boy. I can see the sense that would make in theory; but a lot of Tinkerbelle's character revolves around her affection for Peter. In the animated movie, her reactions go a long way towards getting the audience to understand her despite her not being able to speak, and most of those reactions stem from her possessiveness towards Peter, jealousy towards anyone who might take his attention away from her, and fear at losing him. Was Tinkerbelle improved at all in this film? Cause to me, the best Tinkerbelle will always be the animated one, with the version from Hook being a close second.

[@Deeeeeeeee1]

A mere boy isn't worth female attention.

[@sistasistaourchannel9829]

This Movie will just never compare to the 2003 Peter Pan Live Action and the Hook Movie!!

[@behindthescenesphotos5133]

I think the 1953 Disney version is one of the only ones where the lost boys don't go to live with the Darlings at the end (I don't remember the 2003 ending).

[@calx8871]

Lost boys go to live with the Darling family at the end. They also take the pirates treasure so the family is financially stable

[@alexfriedman918]

10:27 At least, they didn’t have Wendy kick Peter in the nuts and call him pathetic!

[@thefriendlyelephant1280]

It might happen in the Little Mermaid remake

[@alexfriedman918]

@@thefriendlyelephant1280 Wouldn’t shock me at all.

[@jameslink8]

We missed you. There's already a good live action Peter Pan it's Hook & my favorite character in that one is the fat black kid

[@rohitrajputltd]

Oh jonny boy, I have missed your videos, hope you're keeping well and that we'll see more of these

[@richardbohacik2685]

I love your reviews, glad you are back :) And I am shocked how repulsively grey and sludge-looking this whole movie looks. I think that it would need to be really well written to overcome such visual mess, but as long as it has neither, oh well…

[@kevinr6879]

The first view of Neverland is pathetically hilarious. You could show that scene to anyone and tell them the kids are flying to Isla Nublar and anyone would believe it. (For those that don’t know, that’s the Jurassic Park island. You’re welcome.)

[@ggrarl]

I don't know about that. Isla Nublar was very bright and colorful, seeing as how it was Hawaii

[@TinyToonStar]

I'm pretty sure Isla Nublar looks more colourful then this. Neverland here looks more like something I'd see off the coast of the UK

[@smpdevelopments]

disney is single handedly destroying the magic that made being a kid fun

[@TheGamingCamel22]

Good to have you back man! Also, I'm surprised you didn't mentioned anything about Wendy's "happy thoughts".. Like seriously what kind of msg they're trying to convey..

[@markiangooley]

In the animated version it was the great Hans Conreid, one of the finest voice actors ever, as Captain Hook (and also as Mr. Darling, which seems brilliant).

[@lou9635]

Disney is like a human growning up: Cute baby (first tries) -> Annoying toddler (downfall) -> Smart kid (resurrection) -> Edgy and extremist teen (now) We have just to wait for it to grow up and become a passionate young adult.

[@yarnwitch]

Great vid as always Jonny! That was a sacrifice watching this movie!!! These clips were pretty painful to watch.

[@WavePotter]

YES! Thank you for pointing out the ship turning vs the ship rolling! That was so stupid. Also, how Peter died from falling, but then he jumps off a 300 foot cliff and lands on his feet with no trouble.

[@Cattensu]

I am rereading the book right now. (For the 20th time at least.) And it is so charming and full of fun. Peter is complex in a way, but can easily be boiled down to a single world description, "Cocky" the definition of the word sums up Peter perfectly. "conceited or arrogant, especially in a bold or impudent way." Wendy is as the book says, "every bit a woman." She is not lured into going with Peter because she did not want to grow up, and wanted adventures. She was lured in by the idea of being able to play the rule of mother to boys that had none. One of the things that Peter mentions when working his lure is that none of them have any pockets, and she can make them some. Which is eats up. I have only gotten through the first three chapters. So no Captain Hook yet. But I do know that the 2003 Universial movie (it is not a remake) captured him really well in having him be played by the same man as Mr Darling. Because Hook is in a way the dark representation of growing up. That movie also did a good job of characterizing Neverland itself. With it going wintery when Peter is away and springy when he returns. Neverland is made from children's dreams and imagination, and Peter is the immediate of childhood. So it is strongly connected to him and reacts to him. No other interpretation I have watched has actually shown this apart from that movie. Which is why it is my favorite out of all of them. I am usually willing to give any Peter Pan adaption a try. And I have liked a good number of them, so long as the characters are mostly in line personality wise. But I am not bothering with this one. These characters are not in line with their personalities. So not worth my time.

[@markiangooley]

Hans Conreid voiced both Hook and Mr. Darling in the 1953 animated version. It’s been so long since I’ve seen it that I can’t remember how easily one can tell, Conreid being so superlative a voice actor. Is it obvious that June Foray voiced both Rocket J. Squirrel and Natasha Fatale (and Nell Fenwick)? It took me a long time as a boy to realize that she did.

[@Cattensu]

@@markiangooley I never knew that. So thank you for telling me. Now that I know, I can totally hear it playing back in my head some of times they are both yelling about one thing or another, and recognize it as the same voice. XD Which is very cool.

[@waynehewett4017]

I'm convinced that the writers and bosses in charge of Disney are officially brain dead and have been for years

[@tonycamacho3015]

Disney really digging their own grave with these live action remakes

[@zoecoffee5757]

12:20 It's the ROP level of wisdom. "Do you know why a ship floats and a stone cannot? Because the stone sees only downward." 🙃 Be impressed!

[@alannothnagle]

Yes, it‘s practically the same identical line! But we can‘t really expect anything better from such a sorry excuse for a film. As Wendy herself says, „Well, I guess it doesn‘t really matter.“

[@zoecoffee5757]

@@alannothnagle Sadly, a character can only be as smart as the writer...

[@saikoblyat]

Disney is so smart because they make it a race issue so no matter how bad and unoriginal their remake is, theyll always have people run defense for them by calling you racist and dismissing any criticism

[@maravreloaded]

Also I love how "DYING ALONE" is considered as a HAPPY MEMORY. First of all: It's NOT a memory. You can't remember THE FUTURE because IT DIDN'T HAPPEN YET! Second of all: what kind of "happy memory" is DYING ALONE? Dude. I guess I finally understand why she hates everyone around. She's full of ego and spite and pure bitter rage.

[@deathByStupid]

That feel the ground beneath your feet bit was doing some solid channeling of the lord of the rings “do you know why a ship floats” vibes

[@rhythmicmusicswap4173]

As a female I swear I didn't feel the need to have lost girls to feel represented 😂

[@jariel2568]

THE KING HAS RETURNED!!!! HELL FUCKING YEAH. so glad your back Johnny. Been here since the begining and I can't wait to see this channel grow

[@onaraisedbeach]

Absolutely lost it at PETAH! 9:06

[@0311matt]

the classic animations used to speak to the soul, they used to tell young boys and girls how to grow into proper men and women. now they just talk at you...

[@jorgecabezas1966]

Disney doesn't learn the lesson

[@christianbusch5499]

Glad to hear everything’s all going smooth behind the scenes, welcome back Jonny!

[@CeltycSparrow]

And speaking of the "flying over London" bit....I believe he SAYS its "second star to the right and straight on till morning" to get to Neverland, but you NEVER ACTUALLY SEE the damn star. You crash into Big Ben and there's a time warp and BOOM, you're there. And UNLIKE other versions of Neverland, this one (while gorgeous in scenery) just DIDN'T have that magic that made it Neverland. They don't really set up the conflict at the beginning for WHY Wendy has to grow up or the mystery of Peter Pan. He just sort of pops in and the kids are totally cool with jumping out a WINDOW from 3 stories up, to fly with him. At least in other versions he had them practice in the bedroom first. Breaking the mirrors? I guess that's the reason for Wendy going to boarding school? There wasn't any chemistry between Peter and Wendy. It was just very awkward. And Peter looked WAYYYY to young. He didn't really stand out as the leader of the group. And they BROKE TRADITION by NOT having Jude Law play both Mr. Darling and Captain Hook. THERE IS A REASON FOR THIS BEING THE SAME ACTOR. Because Hook is a reflection of her father. I DID like Tinkerbell and Tiger Lily. I thought they were two of the better characters in the movie. The Lost Boys, as well as the brothers, were just bland and forgettable. I couldn't even discern which Lost Boy was which. I DID kind of like the new take they did for Captain Hook and Peter. I definitely missed the songs though. They brought fun and life to the animated Peter Pan....EVEN the Indian song. And we never did catch if the conflict was even resolved for Wendy in the end. Is she still off to school or is she staying now, to help her mother raise all these children she's brought home. Overall, the movie was better than the Lion King and Mulan and Pinocchio....but was it as good as the 2003 live action Peter Pan? HELL NO.

[@kerrybruce7939]

So good to see you back Jonny. Love your insight and creative analysis of all things Pop Culture. I was worried we werent going to see you again.

[@DarthDevorin]

"The fairy dust is female!"

[@andykeys74]

Good to see you back on here, Jonny. I hope everything is ok in the real world.

[@LusterDust]

:o I made the same "It's not just a boulder it's a rock" joke when I saw it! I FEEL SO SEEN. SO HEARD. Peter Pan was one of my favourites growing up, I was really sad when I saw the weird... post-zombie-apocalypse-hued trailer and I was squinting and memeing within the first minute. I have ADHD and it absolutely did not keep my attention for more than a few minutes, though I kept coming back and watching a bit more to try to get through it. Batman VS Superman took me 3 days to finish and I normally love binge-watching movies. I'm more than half-way through the film, now, and I decided to instead spend hours watching people on KZbin talking on it because that was far more entertaining. And colorful, sheesh. I used to love the play, even, and I was dying for the sweet Wendy telling her little brothers grandiose tales of Peter Pan and Captain Hook.

[@markpaterson2053]

I don't know what people were expecting; it has "WENDY" in the title----OF COURSE it was gonna suck.

[@SonicHedgehog1991]

I heard Superman & Lois did quite decent.

[@FunSizeSpamberguesa]

To be fair, the original book was called "Peter and Wendy." Not that it stops this movie being utter trash.

[@markpaterson2053]

@@FunSizeSpamberguesa yeah, not Wendy and Peter, as is portrayed here

[@miguelservetus9534]

When Tiger Lilly explains why a rock sinks was one of the greatest moments in Disney history.

[@BoydsofParadise]

That island looks drab as hell. If they could have taken a note from the first Jurassic Park arriving on the island the first time, it would have been a huge improvement!

[@noelsteele]

Glad to have you back! We missed you!

[@squoblat]

Yeah boyyyyyy he's back

[@awildpokemonuwu]

PSSSSSSSSSSSSSS, Tinkerbell actress in 2003 DID FLY IRL, they used wires. lol.

[@awildpokemonuwu]

peter pan 2003 is soooguuuuuuud, uwu.

[@Heroesfullyalive]

I laugh at the fact that they took away the childlike songs about flying but introduced a new one where the pirates sing about drowning Wendy in the ocean... 😂😂😂😂

[@ItsYaBoyRJ]

This one flew way over my head I didn't even know this existed.

[@alexfriedman918]

1:32 The sequel will be called “Wendy II”, or, if they admit this flop flopped, “The Wendies” (with several more diverse Wendies as a shield)…