Why Everyone is Wrong about the Catfish Camaro

[@Donut]

Name a more underrated car!

[@lynz6145]

Lada

[@purusingh7550]

New edge mustang, great first car

[@paulcarmi8130]

Polski-Fiat

[@willferland]

Saab 9-3 Aero, Turbo V6 for cheap

[@Zalavur]

Mazda meada

[@brandonhernandez7400]

Imagine being a catfish just vibing and a the last thing you hear is a shark yelling "mo powa baybe" before it eats you

[@ValMK3]

Brandon Hernandez Hold on lemme introduce you to the gulper catfish-

[@bentracy7463]

Came down looking for this comment.

[@haramacre]

@@josesigala7520 bull sharks

[@albaraqahtani]

All the catfish hears is : *Humming* What a nice day Wait a sec , i hear something Wait WHA- Shark : MO POWA BAYB-

[@the.reel.mccoy.]

The shark is the lt1 lol

[@paulmartin1784]

This takes me back to my high school where the only cars you'd see in the student parking were SN95 mustangs, Ford F-150s and THIS!

[@villiannewyork]

@Logan Grilliot insurances for these are expensive man

[@suprastevio2264]

And beat to shit gen 1 and 2 eclipses lol

[@austin2702]

Bunch of Yee yee trucks at my school

[@devin4369]

@Logan Grilliot yeah all I seen were RSXs and civic

[@meestasqueed5867]

At my school, all I see are brand new mustangs and camaros in terms of muscle. Proud to say I'm the only one in the ENTIRE school that drives an f-body, and i love it to bits.

[@chloe-lg2db]

As soon as he pulled out that huge case of CDs I was like “yeah this guy is cool” 🤙

[@tarsan894]

Yeah this guy is stuck in 2005

[@noobsa78]

spit fire which is great honestly

[@hugocovarrubias7080]

Yup that was cool

[@Evan2]

spit fire Anyone who still rocks a CD collection in 2020 is cool in my book.

[@kendrickschroeder8723]

He should have just got an fm transmitter so he can connect to it with Bluetooth

[@thewisebanana29]

On the other side of the coin, the 4th gen firebirds and TA’s are so criminally underrated, no one ever talks about them.

[@kyleknickerbocker6602]

Ws6 for life

[@melvinmcfly4498]

Don’t, so they stay cheap!

[@TJSpike]

I own one, and yes they are

[@TheOhsemix]

They are just so few of them in m6

[@markp9366]

My dads first car was a 93 trans am

[@tylerfarrell8034]

My favorite part was when he said, "cockpit" and "pit" was bleeped out.

[@incredulousd9408]

Was looking for this comment

[@ilikemazdarx-7s53]

Hahahhaa

[@DFMT08]

lmfao

[@blkeclipsel2400]

Yea man its beep shit!

[@SupaBuma]

MO MONITIZATION BAYBE!

[@R4MON]

I never thought of a catfish when I looked at that model and now I can't unsee it. :D

[@LS__812]

I was today years old when I learned about a Catfish Camaro, glad to know I'm not alone under the rock I've been hiding under lol

[@Bubba-1962]

I always thought late 90s Taurus looked like catfish

[@QthAgR8]

R4M0N I always said the 93-97 look like a bow and arrow 🏹 😂

[@Siimkristjanpariis]

I just found out what catfish looks like (english is not my native so i never knew what catfish translated to my language). And yup, i can not unsee it anymore

[@Illbebacc]

Me too.😣

[@kennethhuber3658]

I had a 2002 that was my daily driver for 16 years. Sold it with almost 300k miles. Most reliable car I ever owned.

[@biggboysouth]

Currently have a 2002 Trans am WS6 as my daily going on 6 years and agree. Only thing that had been an issue is those dang popup head lights! I eventually changed out the gear to a metal one and no more issue.

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

Yeah they are crazy reliable

[@adamweaver6351]

Hey even the LT1s are reliable with an updated opti or the 24x coil packs like my firebird.

[@ztwntyn8]

Adam Weaver won’t go 300k though I bet or not typically. I have one love it etc but the stronger the bottom end is the longer they last because of distortion imo. Or lack ther if that is.

[@adamweaver6351]

The only reason it wouldnt is because im putting a cam and porting the heads lol. Theyre a good bottom end, obviously not as good as the ls but theres no reason an lt1 cant make 300,000 with good oil changes and keeping up on it. And obviously dont beat the fuck out of it every day.

[@coreynorton4544]

I owned an SS and a WS6 back in the 4th gen era, the ram air was functional on both models, the air box was actually raised up and the hood directed the air to the raised intake portion of the air box.

[@dana8190]

As someone who was in highschool when these came out, these were highly praised and no one hated them lol

[@ChachoGSX]

Zack Lee!

[@ejrattorney]

Yep. And NO ONE compared it to a catfish.

[@hostileaks4495]

@@ejrattorney WELL TIMES CHANGE CAT FISH BOI

[@x6stringSHREDER]

I know i dislike when people who are uneducated about the f body review it

[@alexlau5022]

@@bhcamaro2002 just bullshit for views

[@indigotheindieghost7214]

Damn, Jeremiah has to be the most late 90s of the Donut hosts, from owning this car, having a case of CDs, to looking like both Mark and Tom of blink-182 at the same time

[@marcellomori3264]

Wow this is accurate

[@UnitiveWILLIAM24]

Damn he does kinda look like a young Tom

[@Z28PAPI]

My Z28 came with the 10 disc in the back

[@ETYPEJaguar38]

The CD collection in a leather suitcase just killed me with its early 2000s-ness.

[@Kieryboo]

You should see my leather case of cassettes.

[@MrCozin-kd9mb]

Butter Toast you hold my beer champs

[@split_jcgg9613]

Lazy Revolutionary that was the best part🤣

[@kichigaisensei]

I'm a Fox Body Mustang guy. Love me my Mustang. But, there's literally nothing wrong with this car. At the time, it was badass...especially the SS. The looks aren't my cup of tea and the laying down driving position isn't my deal, but I think that's minor.

[@derpyzmayhem420]

Same, I love Fox Body Mustangs, had this guy in a trailer park. He had a beautiful Blacked out SS with a red trim and my dad told me the guy's SS pushed up to 700 HP.

[@estone2]

Feel like Jeremiah is really coming into his own here, getting his own style. Way better!

[@ThePogoIV]

YUP he needs to keep doing him.

[@derb7462]

Yes way better

[@devianb]

Agreed.

[@ExpWars]

I didn't ask

[@williamloveday3728]

Agreed. He's probably fairly new to being filmed.

[@clarkmiller287]

Ironically enough, this video is as long as it takes for the windows to go up

[@RecklessPlayers12]

give this guy an award, best comment

[@rognio3]

Having owned multiple new edge mustangs, dang it would be nice if the windows actually worked 😂😂. I probably replaced 10 window motors before I had a carpenter build supports to hold them up permanently

[@clarkmiller287]

@@rognio3 dude I'm a die hard SN95 guy and I've NEVER had an issue with the windows on mine

[@rognio3]

@@clarkmiller287 lol, you're the only one in history then. They have issues from the first time you shut the door off the lot. If you drive a new one you'll notice when you open the door, the window will roll itself down an inch. This was a fix for the issue of the window impacting the trim and coming off track

[@rognio3]

@@clarkmiller287 also, the gears in the window motors were plastic and notorious for stripping. Could be fixed by swapping the plastic gears for metal nuts

[@grugg3108]

Gonna be real, I always loved the look and I had no idea that this car was hated

[@andyphillips2530]

Max Stirner-Kun same my neighbor had one when I was a little kid and I would just sit at the window and look at it

[@smokedsalmon3907]

Same here but still like the firebird more.

[@drejackson4882]

Same. I own one too

[@sparkalanio]

Dane always thought the look was unique and cool

[@SURENITY]

Same here!

[@tommycarrizal1656]

"It creeks and cracks and sounds like its falling apart" yoooo I felt that my friend had one of these and man he had to start it with a screw driver and here in az the sun would dry plastic so the dash was all cracked good times 😂

[@ikemontel2465]

My old man had a Chevy caprice he had to screwdriver start!

[@DannyDingo9228]

I laughed so hard when he said "Cock pit" and they bleeped out pit lol

[@VndNvwYvvSvv]

Why was it bleeped anyway?

[@Ettertube]

I feel like they have been doing this for awhile

[@calebf612]

@@VndNvwYvvSvv it's a joke

[@SrgntSprnkls77]

@@VndNvwYvvSvv instead of censoring the part that could be considered vulgar they censor the part that isnt cuz censoring is dumb

[@blackonblack...9244]

@@calebf612 It's not a joke. It's KZbin. They on some political BS....

[@tommylyeah]

90's Cars: Look like 90's cars People: surprised picachu

[@archetypealch3my290]

TommyLYeah - Darkwraith Kaid pikachu with a K -_-

[@angleofattack5942]

Ok he actually did a good job. I’ll drop a like for this one

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Angle of Attack He’s good at presenting and will get better.

[@gogocube3924]

More passion cuz he owns it

[@sammolloy1]

My mother, who was a car guy / SCCA / no Buicks person, left me her 2000 V6 base Camaro Convertible. It does get fabulous gas mileage, sticks to the road like glue and makes me smile to drive it. It does leak a little oil and feels like it’s going to fall apart, but y’know what? IT GIVES NO FUCKS and runs like a bastard

[@Bruh_69_]

3:30 Me: *looks at Supra* Me: "Weird flex, but, okay."

[@demi-godcrisis849]

underrated comment.

[@air-headedaviator1805]

This is an amazing reply

[@INeverExisted23]

Ah I see what u did there ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@chop2093]

I actually thought they looked awesome when this came out when I was in high school. The SS was sexy. The side profile looks really sleek

[@TrillYungWavy]

The sleek design was ahead of its time

[@bhcamaro2002]

They will always be underrated

[@venomous2die4]

I actually preferred the earlier Camaros with the throwback third-gen headlights. I was also in high school and these were out so they were a big dream of mine. Took me a long time to get it but two years ago I finally found one with a 6-speed and the upgraded LT1. I even got luckier because it already has an lt4 head on it. As of right now the car is at my mechanic getting upgraded plugs, upgraded wires, new opti (yes, I know all of that is a pain in the ass which is why I'm not doing it lol), oil change and getting a new harmonic balancer as I type this. 97 30th anniversary. 4th gen baby!

[@bhcamaro2002]

@@venomous2die4nice sounds like a decent build! Mine has heads and cam

[@stephanielangel2909]

Chop209 i too test drove a 6 speed in high school.I thought ill never have one.I was wrong i have a 98 z28 silver camaro and i sold my green 6 speed z28 due to cracked heads.I love my car

[@PLANBSKATER100]

8:39 super clean engine bay my guy

[@dildoe125]

From Autozone?

[@PLANBSKATER100]

Dil Doe what?

[@PLANBSKATER100]

Dil Doe do you know what an engine bay is?

[@dildoe125]

Tought you where someone else bud .. and nah I don't know what an 5.7/350ci vortec fuel injected pushrod engine bay is im pretty stupid not sure it has a limited slip differential that produces alot of one tire fire... ..

[@dildoe125]

Im pretty sure the main leap the Ls style engines have over the Tbi, cpi, design is the slight hemispheric design on the heads and a bit better sequential multi port injection son.

[@JimS870]

Thank you for this. I was always more of a Camaro guy but ended up with a 2016 Mustang GT I bought new. These catfish Camaros were on showroom floors when I was in high school. I used to fantasize about buying a black on black with leather t-tops SS with SLP package. Like, it felt like God put me on earth to own this car I loved it so much. Couldn't afford one until my late 20s but by then most were in poor shape so I ended up with a new car instead. But I always, always have a soft spot for these 4th gen SS's. The interior bits and little body parts didn't age well but the engines lasted forever.

[@TunPiccolo]

"Still faster than Nolan's mustang" What do ya expect? That stang got filled with milk in its tank instead of gas

[@zirkh1609]

It is an early sn97 so its not surprising xD. I love stangs but im aware of the early sn97s lackluster performance

[@ryanbromley3641]

@@zirkh1609 s197 not sn97

[@angelgjr1999]

True it’s faster than sn95s. But remember, the Terminator Cobra literally killed the Camaro for like 4 years of production.

[@kevinrodriguez9701]

A na lt4 camaro can beat a supercharged terminator lol

[@LouSassles]

This dude looks like he's straight from the 90's. I love it

[@doomstache]

Reminds me of mark from blink 182

[@LouSassles]

Jonathan Moore that’s true!!!!

[@teklegion]

@@doomstache more like a dollar store version

[@alucardleashed]

Dude looks like Corey Feldman.

[@nivlacyevips]

He needs to stand that hair up with some gel and wear a white tank-top with neon silkscreen but yeah I get the vibe

[@stonecode8491]

With all honesty, of course it's underrated when almost everybody is hating on it, but still have a decent engine

[@Fatal_Inertia]

Another thing regarding the horsepower rating disparity vs the C5, they did in fact make the same horsepower of 345-350. Chevy deliberately claimed less horsepower on the Camaro for the reason you stated, internal competition. They both dyno at about 290hp at the wheels from factory. Some later camaros after 2000 received the LS6 intake due to parts shortages giving those particular camaros even more hp.

[@bluedevilg3542]

I don’t get why people are arguing about the 90s interior well duh it was built in the 90s 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@meestasqueed5867]

You can't really expect much from 90s GM. the 90s were the ultimate decade of cheap plastics, yet they are EXPENSIVE. Me and my father replaced the dash in my 4th gen, and it cost 200$. 200$ for a literal slab of plastic.

[@bluedevilg3542]

Meestasqueed damn for real it’s like 4 to 500 on a C5 crazy

[@austinkeys7662]

Meestasqueed where did you get the dash? I need a new one for my firebird

[@02WIFE]

The interior is fine and functional

[@brandonkeithley7464]

Meestasqueed 200$ is cheap as shit. You know how much a dash replacement is these days? 1000$ plus easy

[@stevenmclaughlin4542]

This is an actual ram air hood and is fully functional! When you close hood, the opening in hood aligns with the airbox opening and is sealed. I have a 99 full SLP "Y2Y" optioned Camaro SS with every option.

[@joe14216]

You're 100% CORRECT!!! I've got a 2000 SS SLP #569. When he said the ram air wasn't "functional" I yelled at my phone "WTF are you talking about"!!! These truly are great cars.... 😁👍👍

[@stevenmclaughlin4542]

@@joe14216 my car # is C025 ( C is for Canada designation) and even have a deck mat personalized with name and car number engraved, and let's not forget the birth certificate (province of Quebec). I though these were neat little extras on top of the other cool optional features by SLP.

[@mikebour454]

It might be functional, but the Free Ram Air mod is a lot better in getting air into the airbox.

[@SullyKHAN]

Even the plain old Z28s have it, I did the exact same thing and yelled "nah, you wrong" when he said it wasn't functional

[@SullyKHAN]

@jesse mclaughlin it is, if you actually look, there's a slit in the airbox that's set pretty low, and it meshes up will a slit from the scoop, idk if maybe he didn't look at it hard enough, or he was misinformed, but a little bit of research and looking at my own car shows that the box ain't sealed

[@theblooper9631]

2:47 damn, just one degree off.

[@hemicentralsrt3259]

Lol

[@scoobsshrooms109]

With enough chassis cracks you can get that 69

[@dem.d0gg393]

i just made this comment's likes perfect. you're welcome

[@ol_smokey9370]

The cars I drove in High school ranged in age from 1988-1994. These cars were brand new at the time, it's amazing how much cars have changed since then, makes me feel old.

[@CarrotsWithLegs]

Finally, a bumper to bumper host who doesn't seem like he's desperately trying to be James

[@iron-farmer]

James?

[@augusta1994]

@@iron-farmer the fat dude

[@thalesofmiletus6162]

It’s the same guy, he’s just maturing his style a bit and it’s great!

[@augusta1994]

@Yupindo YT i meaan its true lol

[@christophejergales7852]

@@thalesofmiletus6162 more like "learned an important lesson."

[@LowkAlexander]

The anger in his voice when he discusses the bubbling is how everyone feels about American car quality control

[@lawnmowerdude]

Na

[@DocWolph]

Nothing broke or breaks (easily) and only one stand out part is actually bad. Quality was not that bad... Except that 4th-gen F-bodies were slapped with GM's cost cutting cleaver and bad apples did crop up frequently, although most issues were easily fixed. Also try to be more specific Ford and Shocking Chrysler at the same time were their own issues and generally very good as good as the Japanese even if people though the Japanese were better made.

[@saviodutra6212]

Yeah because in the late 90's Kia build quality that was actually the shit!

[@AMan-ct1gu]

Nah, that's only a GM thing

[@YNorth]

American made vehicles have been trash since the gas crisis

[@loganf5278]

"I named my car after my girlfriend. *Big mistake* when your car looks like a fish" Had a good laugh at that one. This ep was way better now that you're not trying to copy James' style.

[@planes124]

Logan F maybe he likes fish. 😘

[@charlesbaeringer8222]

I agree this episode was more original, I’m excited to see Jeremiah’s style and energy evolve as James’s did

[@toolinedc]

What's cool is that i lived 3 minutes away form the GM factory in Boisbriand, Québec, Canada when i was young so i saw all the 4th gen camaros, firebirds and trans am come out of the GM ! I saw yours for sure ! I love the 4th gen ! You fall in love with this car after driving it ! 🤟 i owned 3 4th gens and planning on buying my 4th one !

[@mattorama]

"LS1 cars are so cheap!" *shows a bunch of LT1 cars*

[@LizardMane]

what is the difference

[@yungtooli]

LizardMane its a whole different engine. ls1 was a huge advancement over the lt1

[@ryanhard5273]

Hey now don't be so sure, my '95 z28 has an LS1

[@LTXSlime]

Clapped out lt1s 🤣

[@invasion10000]

I caught that too😂😂

[@ledgeri]

I love seeing the visible difference between "Not my car" vs "My car" when sitting into them!

[@Deltamag-m5c]

Nobody: Absolutely noone: Not even a single soul: Donut: Let's inflate catfish's price by doing a video about it!

[@rogergm92]

The day that Matt Denmah - sloppy mechanics or Richard Holdener do a video on it, then the tax will come

[@xalataf3365]

Most Donut fans are probably 13 year old JDM fanboys that couldn't care less about any other car that isn't Japanese...

[@mythicalducky]

I mean I've owned multiple American cars but I personally prefer jdm cars

[@TWOxTONE_773]

@@xalataf3365 Im a 29 year old who enjoys my 94 impala SS and am a donut fan.

[@TWOxTONE_773]

@@xalataf3365 weren't we all 13 year old JDM fanboys at one point? Lol

[@TheMightyLou]

I had a ‘97 Camaro in high school and I recently bought a ‘00 SS (39k miles). I love the skip shift feature in traffic and I also carry a big CD case. LOL. It’s all stock, but I’m tempted to put in a new stereo just so I can use Bluetooth and back up camera.

[@ourempires6457]

You're not forced to shift to 4th, it's just an option on my 95.

[@setharnold3699]

It made every mustang driver say “oh shit” When one of these pulled up next to them at the red light.

[@hell-sol5240]

Definitely not..

[@nthgth]

Only the ones that didn't cost a shit ton more

[@tannertones7512]

I'm a .mustang guy and that is definitely true

[@hell-sol5240]

Not a mustang fine but I used to have a White 3.8 SC Thunderbird With Full Exhaust and basic Bolt Ons a 2,000 dollar car and 1,500 in parts so 3 1/2 grand in all. and used to love when one of these would roll up at the stop lights or follow me outta town down a country road. Z28s included That old Tbird smashed em with ease

[@setharnold3699]

Hell- Sol wow definitely a rare unique car. As I said though I was referring to the 94-04 mustang GT’ and Cobra. My Cobra would run bumper to bumper with them but the LS was definitely intimidating back then.

[@Thekidsinafrica14]

I actually really love the catfish look. One of my favorite looking camaro IMO

[@bhcamaro2002]

You might like mine then! It's on my channel if you wanna check it out

[@xion_the_destroyer7182]

@@bhcamaro2002 Your Camaro looks sick!I really like the darkened taillights and the rims,including the exhaust.

[@gliese4363]

Fr the only good looking camaros are this and the iroc imo

[@bhcamaro2002]

@Estas Pendejo? thanks, damn that sucks I had a 91 z28 before the SS. I like the look of the 3rd gens but the 4th gen outperforms them

[@Djevan41598]

Is it just me or does it remind anyone of a Mitsubishi Eclipse

[@johnnyknoxville687]

Got my first one at 40. Mid life crisis whatever you call it. Lol. It's only got the V6 but for some reason it has a posi track rear end. I'm thankful a little ol lady use to own it. 161k drives beautifully. I will say that when you put your foot into the radiator it does not hesitate. 19mpg.... And the sleek design gets me 30 on the highway. Lovin' it. Great ride!!!!

[@bhcamaro2002]

Nice! I started with a v6 then moved up to a SS

[@louisebrillo06]

"Pain in the Rectum" LOL 😂 also at 7:15 you bleep the wrong word 😂

[@joonaslaakkonen8096]

The bleeps a joke

[@louisebrillo06]

@@joonaslaakkonen8096 I know.

[@RichTexas82513]

@@louisebrillo06 but they work with KZbin

[@adammiller8133]

Running joke every time they say cockpit is to bleep the second part

[@plastikmaiden]

Why would "mute" pause? It says "mute".

[@MrCHAMMOND]

Because manufacturers have figured out that people use mute and pause to achieve the same effect of temporarily making the sound cease. If that's the case it makes perfect sense for mute to also pause.

[@RKN1112]

Code Code then just pause it

[@AngryDogPerformance]

@@MrCHAMMOND .....the radio was designed in the 90s bro I cant think of a single car back then that had a pause feature that worked when you pressed mute.

[@MrCHAMMOND]

@@AngryDogPerformance I didn't think he was expecting it in a 90's car, he just said it felt weird. Even today my 2017 camaro does not pause when you mute it. The functionality is not universally adopted.

[@jpd3070]

I think the mute button was mainly meant for use w the radio as you can't pause the radio, and using the power button w the radio there'd be a delay B4 the radio caught a signal and came back on.

[@Slapdatpizzaroll]

I love the proud look in his eyes when he cradles his CD's.

[@trublad]

7:16 they’ve censored the word ‘pit’ in cockpit and left ‘cock’ lol I LOVE this channel 😂

[@04dram04]

These have much more street cred than modern SS's

[@brandonkeithley7464]

04dram04 no shit they have 15 plus years of being on the street.

[@His_Scout_Sixty]

When you herd the “SS” it would turn heads, now people don’t even know what an “SS” is. Smh

[@2011.5BBC]

Says only those who have never driven a modern SS, I’ve owned both. These were dogs in comparison.

[@DreamHachi]

2011.5BBC ain’t that the truth. I thought these cars felt good before I got my 5th gen 2SS

[@shahrozhussain7499]

I don't know what street you live on buddy, but 6th gens are leagues ahead of the 4th gen (and to an extent 5th as well).

[@MSportsEngineering]

This episode was really, really good. Nice improvement!

[@nickstroobosscher5161]

To be honest, it’s one of my favorite Camaro generations

[@biggboysouth]

I personally love the Firebird version of this generation, I guess I'm biased since I own one =D

[@bhcamaro2002]

I own a 02 SS as well! It's on my channel check it out sometime

[@350TPI]

I am pretty shocked that people hate these. I cruise in my 99 SS as much as i possibly can with my 2 year old in the back seat and i get zero hate. It never fails to put a smile on my face.

[@bhcamaro2002]

Just the newer generation doesn't understand how good they really are so they call them "ugly"

[@D-Man_Jam]

Instagram's comments on the Catfish Camaro are much different than KZbin's comments.

[@dono2926]

Everyone seems more negative on Instagram compared to KZbin

[@s2korpionic]

@Shannon Day if you think that's bad, try Reddit.

[@TheSmitty62]

I have had my 02 Z28 for almost 4 years now and I never get bored of it!

[@eworldtraveler]

Likewise , ss aniversary , bone stock , 6 on the floor , less than 14k on the odometer . The smile maker .

[@jared6072]

Its my favorite gen. The looks could be better, but this is a fun car. Mines a 02 SS 6 speed with all the SLP goodies and 38000 on the clock. Batwing intake, dual-dual slp exhaust, SLP stage 2 suspension kit, and the auburn diff. Ive had a couple other camaros, but that diff and the upgraded shocks make a huge difference in the way this car corners. What i love the best is no traction control or electronic stabilities. There is a physical wire that connects the gas pedal to the throttle and its a thing of beauty. The visceral nature is what makes this car fun and worth it.

[@mr.nobody3109]

tell me about it

[@zachu3029]

Have a 30th ss anniversary camaro convertible, 30th anniversary trans am convertible and a 25th anniversary trans am t top

[@zachu3029]

The ss is straight piped, 😻😻😻

[@totallyrandomuser5760]

I love how cockpit was censored out 😂

[@jalderink]

Ikr?

[@skywarp55]

So i bought a 98z at the end of 99 when i turned 19. I still have it. Just under 40k on the od and 589rwhp. I love this car. All the negative things mentioned can be fixed/upgraded. The window motors and crank sensor were probly the biggest pain but are fixed and upgraded now.

[@bhcamaro2002]

What mods are done to yours?

[@skywarp55]

@@bhcamaro2002 Heads cam full intake lifters rods ect. tts long tubes into slp loudmouth bunch of suspension stuff sub frames phb trailing arms ect ,though stock springs. Hawk brakes everything. TnT nitro wet kit. was 150 shot but as I am only puttering around on the road now I rock the 75 jets. slicks n skinnies and a set of show rims n tires. Probly other stuff I am forgetting (window motors out of a chevy truck) Basicaly everything has been touched except the rearend (cuz it has not blown up) the bottom end (lol cuz it has not blown up) and the springs. Best et was 11.87 @121 motor and 10.12 @ 124 on the sauce. I am not a pro and my n20 passes I spun bad outta the hole. I moved to Tenn and the closest track was 1/8 mile and they would not let me run nitrous because I didn't have a cage. And they said it look like I ran 1/4 9's. So all those passes are motor and in the 7's still fun. Sry for long reply.

[@bhcamaro2002]

@@skywarp55 no problem nice times!

[@EmpathMichael]

I drove a stock 02 SS for 2.5 years and loved every minute of it.

[@ceciliaageofaquarius1225]

Then why did you get an automatic? 🧐

[@falcon6995]

Why only two and a half years?

[@mattleonard5268]

That’s an awesome car.

[@mattleonard5268]

I daily drove a mint, low mileage 98 hardtop 3.8 v6 5 speed base model

[@kdmag88]

Damn I'm shocked to hear so much hatred for this gen, I truly never knew everyone else hated them. I love how they look and I'm not even a big Camaro guy.

[@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts]

It's all a matter of opinion, they still get tons of love in the car world

[@tannercox4537]

KDMag 88 yeah pretty sure this was the car to have for pony cars. The sn95 was a let down to say the least when the gen 4 was pippin

[@manz7860]

@@tannercox4537 sn95 is the worst mustang ever. The new edge is sexy tho

[@A1alshehhi1509]

@@manz7860 New Edge is still SN95

[@sugma69420]

You are tasteless

[@lennmonade7066]

I like the catfish camaro alot. I think the car looks amazing.

[@quintessenceSL]

Integrated spoiler (like a 959), "aero" without looking like it is pandering, gentle curves accentuating the body lines. The thing is a beaut.

[@bhcamaro2002]

@@quintessenceSL thanks!

[@austinarvey2266]

And i have a 1994 Camaro Z28 T top with after market throttle Body cold air intake AC bypass with soon too be Performance Fuel injectors all Tuned up from the Rear Dif fluid Change its also a Automatic transmission...

[@xSmythosx]

this is my favorite post 80’s camaro and i think my third favorite camaro period. then again, i adore almost everything about 90s car design

[@skyreach669]

sup

[@mqpar5.795]

Me too. I like all of them before 5th generation honestly. Gm kind of ruined them with there fat rear ends and obnoxious width.

[@bhcamaro2002]

@@mqpar5.795 well said

[@robertc4311]

Ok. Here’s my 2 cents. I’ve owned every gen of Camaro except the current 6th gen. I still own a 4th gen 2001Camaro SS with CME with just 54k miles. The best all around most functional Camaro were the 1st gens. Several things I disagree with here. The 4th gen Camaro at the time it was built had the best build quality of any Camaro previous. The brand manager for the 4th gen was a guy named Scott Settlemire, who had just come from Lexus. Look at any unmolested and undamaged 4th gen and you will see exceptional body gap fit. It is screwed together pretty well. The design was influenced by the F-15 fighter. Which you can see it in the profile shape. It is my understanding that the sail panel issue is just for 2001 cars because GM changed the glue, which was changed again in 2002. The interior is where most GM cars fall short, but it is a compromise between style/ looks, performance and price. Can’t have it all in an affordable package. Personally, I’ll take the cheapo interior for great style and performance. Another thing, in 2001 we found out the Camaro was going away in 2002, so the cars kept their value for many years until the 5th gens came out in 2010. That’s because they were the last Camaro for 8 years, nobody was sure they were coming back...looks like 2023 will have history repeat itself. The cars styling has always been debatable, but remember when the 4th gen hit the streets in 93-94, they sold like hot cakes...because of the performance value and great looks and affordable price. The Camaro SS had upgraded suspension, wheels, exhaust (3 inch pipe vs 2.5), and allegedly 20 more hp than the Z28...who knows if that’s true. Chevy and lots of other manufacturers have been lying and underrating the horsepower of some muscle cars since the 60’s. Based on what I can see, that car in the video would be a 335 HP car because it has an upgraded optional SLP exhaust (dual/dual), which has two pipes on each side. The standard exhaust has one pipe sticking out on each side, and the other optional exhaust was the CME. They are advertised as being good for about 10HP. None are true dual exhaust but are cat back systems with the pipe from the diameter being bigger. Last thing dude, take a closer look at your car; the hood scoop connects and sends the air to the hole in front of the air cleaner, which makes it functional. How much improvement is debatable, but it still functions. Good video, and glad you put it out. I just became a subscriber.

[@alansnyder4462]

Nice car, fun video. Double check your scoop, I believe it is in fact functional .

[@rickmarks7685]

Robert C that’s not true on the sail panel it was 99-2002 that had that problem

[@robertc4311]

@@rickmarks7685 Thanks..must have different source than me. Good to know.

[@hillbillygarage1270]

@@robertc4311 Yeah, it was '99-'02 I believe. My '99 is bubbly. 🙄 I have a carbon fiber one from 6le waiting to go on though 🤙

[@k9techku]

thank you for pointing out the air box thing. I was trying to find pictures of how it went together to link here cause yeah its functional. the trans am has the same setup

[@victorluna8528]

I sold my catfish a couple years ago and I miss it. Hopefully one day I can get a ws6

[@KillSwitchNY]

I did the exact thing. I sold my 2000 SS because I was about to dump $10k in upgrades into it at 160k miles. Missed it so much that I went and bought a 2002 WS6 with 60k on it 3 months later. That car got the big bucks thrown into it.

[@autismman5370]

Just got a Red 02 Ws6 as my first car 😉

[@KillSwitchNY]

@@autismman5370 glad to hear you are a 4th gen guy, especially for a 1st car. Be careful with it. They can get squirelly real quick lol. Tired of seeing Toyota, Honda and Hyundai as everyones choice lately. RWD V8 forever!

[@danpetrysshowcase2930]

I bought a 2001 red Z28 Convertible and love it. It has 130,000 miles, It had 70,000 miles when I purchased it. Camaro does not leak or burn oil. Minimum maintenance is all I perform. Tires, brakes, etc...I added a K&N FILTER, A DIABLO PROGRAMMER SET to full race and FLOWMASTERS. Car comes with the LS1 and with my mods it is super fast. When I floor it @ 80 mph it feels like the car flies off the ground. Also, been in local parades the past 5 years...

[@bhcamaro2002]

Nice man! Modded 02 ss here

[@BravesLax278]

“Even stopped, faster than Nolan’s Mustang” 😂😂😂😂😂

[@davidsuperslow99]

I love the fbody era of camaros. Personally my favorite gen camaro. I miss my Camaro and I can't wait to have another one.

[@coreyclark2692]

love my 94 z28

[@BallisticGhast6]

corey clark Same, but my car is an 84 SC

[@67buick]

There were 4 different generations of the f body...

[@davidsuperslow99]

@@67buick yup true, from 67 to 02. Camaros and transams are the only fbody platforms that are sporty compared to the rest

[@bhcamaro2002]

@@davidsuperslow99 I own a 02 SS as well! It's on my channel if you wanna check it out

[@Kaanage1021]

I literally see nothing wrong with this car apart from the 98-02 front end, other than that the 4th gen is perfect in my opinion. It's my favorite car ever.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

It doesn't have RS style ground effects and doesn't say IROC-Z on the side. But that's about it.

[@jerryrennfahrer5589]

You could always have both….. cough cough 😶🤫

[@KidJaeProductions]

Whoa. The 98-02 are great 😕

[@AbelSlimShady]

i can tell by ur pfp.

[@venomous2die4]

97 Z28 owner here and love that LT1 sound. Still need to upgrade that damn radiator.

[@MrWolfen]

Still own my z28 2000 only 93k on it as it stands. Just got new tires, and irduim plugs done last year. It was not designed like a catfish, It was design after an f14 tomcat fight jet. I have had mine up to 145 mph and its smooth on the highway. No shimmer at all. This car craves speed. Does not like going slow. I'm looking to upgrade the supsension to a BMR package, maybe new K memebers, lower and upper controlers, and rear also sway bars etc. I even saw a indenpendant dual supsension for the rear.

[@bhcamaro2002]

Don't forget to buy subframe connectors 👍

[@Okla_Soft]

I always loved this body style, it’s what I think of when I think “camaro”. I’m surprised to learn that people hate this model. The curvy rear looks dope.

[@bhcamaro2002]

Agreed! I have a 02 SS on my channel check it out sometime

[@Tux7916]

I love the front too

[@keithbellair9508]

People are morons.. injust watched some fool bid $23,000 for a rusted to hell 1970 boss 302 with no motor on ebay when they could have had 2 of these for the same price. Back in 2000 the camaro had it all above the mustang in looks and power

[@jakehaas5658]

The speed control volume was in like every thing I had a s10 with it

[@DarkestofTimes]

my toyota has it too

[@mattbauckman9907]

My 98 Silverado has it. I turn it off.

[@jakehaas5658]

@@mattbauckman9907 I never thought it did anything maby mine didn't work

[@rontheosolano1392]

Be a catfish and be eaten by a shark that says, “mo powah babeh!”

[@skyhigham24]

i was looking for a comment to say something about the shark. Thank you sir

[@ryanyoder7573]

I had a 98 Z28 from 98 to 2003 and loved it. Very fast and easy to mod for more power if needed. Also very cheap. They were faster than almost anything on the road.

[@bhcamaro2002]

Nice I have a 02 with mods as well

[@finejuggler7601]

I always though these looked 1000% better than the SN-95

[@Stopsign32v]

Hell no -_o

[@czotheghostgmail]

To teach there own but im sorry sn95 cobra looks wayyyyy much better then a 4 gen camaro but both are great car options

[@BiigiieCheeese]

I mean most cars look better than the standard sn-95

[@czotheghostgmail]

@@BiigiieCheeeselol really u think that 😂😂 not a real car head i see but back in 2000's era the only cars that really looked like a muscle car was a vett and a stang the cameros performance was great but no originality like the other two

[@ChevyCamaroIsBetter]

I love camaros, but sn95/new edge looks better.

[@aydanangus]

6:37 the c5 also has that. A small resistor can be wired in and it will never work.

[@tmo2798]

This one is my favorite. It's looks aggressive and was the latest progression before the retro regression set in.

[@landonjones8819]

T Mo literally nothing about these camaros looks aggressive

[@yeetbomb2015]

Looks like a derpy happy cat fish the way is where the real f body is

[@midsouth2strokes185]

Anyone that talks bad on these cars r under 25 know nothing's or r retarded uneducated fast and furious watching morons

[@darthwarspite8544]

@@landonjones8819 zl1 1le Camaro

[@RedBeardMoto]

My very first car was a 99 z28 with the T56. Best car I’ve ever owned. I let this girl talk me into selling it for a 4 door since we were having a baby. I did and it has been one of my biggest regrets. This was 4 years ago. Last night I got on marketplace to look at an old corvette….low and behold I find my first car! Now it’s got heads, cams, the whole 9! It’s like a dream come true! I’m buying it back this weekend for the exact same price I bought it stock when I was an ignorant 17 year old 🤙🏼

[@bhcamaro2002]

Awesome!

[@RedBeardMoto]

@@bhcamaro2002 I picked it up yesterday and didn’t make it half a mile before I got pulled over 😂

[@bhcamaro2002]

@@RedBeardMoto that's gotta be a record

[@TheViny633]

I’ve owned a lot of camaros and I loved my catfish LS the most

[@bigboyyyy56787]

Thank you for people that like 4th gen Camaros🙏🏼

[@yotasavage]

Love mine also

[@Madmaxxxx1984]

Same here never knew they were hated so much or let alone called Catfish must be a new Generation thing, hipsters not appreciating real budget power , back in my day ls1 along with WS6 Ram Airs Were King of the car meets and backroad drags .They were loved greatly, most teens would settle with the older lT1s or 3rd gen irocs due to affordablely.

[@mitchwood6609]

I have a 2020 2ss. I loved my 2000 just as much as this one.

[@SeasideStrangler]

ive had 3, a 97 LT1 6 speed, an auto 98 Z28 with MS4 cam and shit, 02 SS 35th anniversary 6 speed. They are awesome cars.

[@VeganDefinition]

Doctor: You have 11 minutes and 50 seconds to live Me: .... Donut Media uploads...

[@rstuff1605]

Still longer than having corona. Hey bartender, ill take 2 coronas. I'll be done in 2 min. With one corona and one for my friend. My friend ☆

[@SFH_Jenkins]

Then an Ad pops up and you can't watch the last 5 seconds. Bamboozled again

[@megacharzard10gameing79]

I'm telling yalll that new hyundiiieeee looks like at cautfish with those leddds

[@dma968]

Am I the only one who feels it looks like an older version of the recently discontinued Chevy ss

[@hathaway.1166]

For some reason i got first gen hyundies flashback readin’ your comment

[@_..-.._..-.._]

The only people that call it a catfish are the same people that make up names for every car. These Camaros are alright, first LS vehicle ever. Front and rear overhang is extreme.

[@SombreroKnight]

i always though the 4th gen Camaro was cool although i prefer the looks and styling of the 4th gen Pontiac Firebird more.

[@misterbuklau4053]

Guillermo Garcia firebird was sleeker camaro just looked like an after thought

[@willpatscully]

I had a 1999 Pontiac Trans Am WS6, although mine had functional RamAir

[@daytonrd17]

That is one of the reason I think the camaro was such a flop. Considering you could get a almost identical mechanical setup but of a much better looking car.

[@04dram04]

When these were new, everyone loved them.

[@dipren443]

These cars were a huge improvement in performance. Even the LT1 cars were great compared to the 3rd gens. A 275 hp 6 speed after not being able to get the top spec car with a manual for the entire 3rd gen run? I should add that I lusted after the early Formula Firehawks and would still love one to this day.

[@1320MustangBoi]

Yeah, this whole Catfish hate is a fucking lie. Nobody hates them. REAL car guys love their preferred cars, but there’s not hate on a Catfish, even if you’re a Mustang guy.

[@jessej6187]

I dont know about hate. When that ls1 came out it, we hated everything else(my lt1 cough* lol). Till this day, a proven engine. You wanna talk about ugly and overrated. Fox body mustang.

[@dipren443]

Jesse J In regards to the Fox Body, I’m not sure overrated is fair. In the early/mid 80’s, when the 5.0 first came on the scene, they were a better package than the comparable third gen f body. As the 80’s rolled on, they held their own. I think early 90’s is where they began to get a bit long in the tooth. Fourth gens came out the last year of the Fox. The Fox couldn’t even compare. And for the first couple years of the SN95, they were nothing to write home about. I recall test driving a 5.0 SN95 while still owning my 89 lx 5.0. The early SN95 was a total dog.

[@c-los918]

@@jessej6187 as someone who owned a 91 5.0 back 15 years ago. There was nothing overrated about it. Great platform, lightweight, many different options when it came to the engine (stroked out being the biggest). Cheap to maintain and it was for the most part bulletproof if done right. It was a lot of car for little money. Now they cost way more than they did 15 years ago. You could find so many 5.0s for 2-6k that were decent or in great condition. Now they cost 6k+ for high mileage beaten ones. I got mine for 4k with 98k original miles, leather interior in great shape. Memories

[@jackiegregory6167]

Actually shut the hood have somone rev the car while you listen to the scoop on the hood I promise you it is real ram air

[@jonathancrespi7955]

Very true. The ram air is functional. I own a 98 SS and I can attest to all of its quirks. Still love it though!

[@mikebour454]

Jonathan Crespi , it sucks little air compared to the ws6 straight shot to the airbox. The free ram air option was more effective than the SS hood. The SS hood air path travelled in a S formation to get to the airbox.

[@cefb8923]

It's a closed air intake he said.. how is it ram air?

[@mwalesnet]

@@cefb8923 at the 8:43 point in the video, if you look under the air box you can see red paint. That is the opening for the air to go into intake. The air in the hood comes out and will go right into the bottom of the box.

[@robertc4311]

@@mikebour454 Yep...the "super scoop option" is the best ram air for these cars, because they are "bottom breathers" and all the airflow is pushed up into that space

[@JewkesEngineering]

That is a true ram air, I was around when they came out and bought a brand new one off the show room floor. I sold that car in 2017 with 23 k miles on it. I now have a 2000 SS SLP WITH 41k original miles. These cars will still run with most cars on the road today. I still have the original rpo code order book for these cars. And the original display option from the show room floor, these cars are truly amazing, the ws6 trans am is the dead twin car as well.

[@bhcamaro2002]

Have 43k on mine as well 👍

[@Suzuki-SwiftSport]

Imagine a cat fish looking at this and going like what a reflection

[@SouthernSera]

People think I'm crazy when I say my dream car is a 2002 Camaro (in red, of course). I haven't gotten one yet but I hope to have one some day. I think they're gorgeous and that why I've wanted one for almost 20 years.

[@glenniz1]

BTW.... the most underrated "TWO" vehicles ever, has to be the last Holden Pontiac GTO and the last Holden Chevy SS!!!!!

[@zaaaccckkkkify]

This guy gets it ^

[@hell-sol5240]

The last GTO was garbage it was merely a grand am with a 6.0

[@glenniz1]

@@hell-sol5240 and the first GTO was a rebadged LeMans with a 383 and then a 400 c.I. engine, both producing less than 400 hp. The last GTO had a 6L engine producing 400 hp and was up to 600 lbs. less.........and your point is?

[@markarnold7516]

How bout the G8 GXP?

[@hell-sol5240]

@@glenniz1 it was actually a 389 not 383 and my point was pretty clear the car was garbage. And 40 years of technology only gained 50 or so horse not impressive at all. My best friend went out and bought one and was so sad and disappointed with it after it was paid off first thing he did was sell it and go back to a 99 trans am. But to each their own

[@_..-.._..-.._]

The amount of dirt in your interior when you spun out on the track is insane.

[@DarkLayerz]

Serious nostalgia happened when my man pulled out the cd case! 😢💯👌

[@rogerburke5063]

RESPECT! I still rock two of those bitches, bursting at the seams, both sides used and some doublestacks.

[@richmcdowell]

I'd rock one in 6 speed. Still live 4th gens.

[@bhcamaro2002]

I have a 02 SS on my channel check it out sometime

[@justinanderson8758]

Same with the SN95, underrated car

[@erendyalatorre7785]

Had a mach 1, loved the sn95. Now I'm looking for a 4.6 GT so I can swap the frame under my 1987 Sentra and make a hilarious sleeper.

[@sbowley3964]

Love my new edge mustang, too bad people dont really build them (besides the terminator of course)

[@g32k]

Lol no. The 2v engine is ass.

[@erendyalatorre7785]

@@sbowley3964 yea it's a real shame. I would have loved to see more new edge mustangs(4.6 2 valve) with 600-700 hp but like u said only procharged mach 1 with spray and terminators get that treatment

[@erendyalatorre7785]

@@g32k agreed the 2 v takes a ton of money to go fast however I had a mach 1 with 4 valves and those took really well to nitrous or prochargers, although at that point you might as well cough up the money for a cobra haha

[@RamPenndragon]

Personally I like the 4th gen Camaro styling, GM manufacturing issues aside, and 325 Hp was quite respectable for the day. Working at Chrysler we would purchase competitive vehicles and test them as a result I had a chance to drive both 3rd and 4th gen F bodies. So when I retired I bought a 6th gen Camaro ZL1 convertible, love that car.

[@JesusChrist-st8ux]

Do you happen to know the 0-60, I can't find it anywhere

[@thompaulson5152]

I used to race a guy at wyotech back in the day with my 9c1 caprice they were sneaky fast I miss my v8 days

[@organic1714]

Bro stop inflating the price of my dream cars lmao. It was the cobalt ss and now this

[@Highrollinhunter]

Mexicans and car collectors have inflated the price of the 1967 to 1972 Chevrolet C/60 that is one of my dream cars

[@phillipsmusic3871]

Same

[@MrBlockoh]

@@Highrollinhunter Okay but how

[@Highrollinhunter]

@@MrBlockoh by rebuilding them into rat rods or lowered trucks my teacher said where I live in Massachusetts every farmer has a C60 but they won't sell them to an autistic kid learning how to drive

[@jaypalo]

Brindle Chihuahua Mexican & car collectors? Wtf 🤣🤣🤣 just say you hate Mexicans and go on about your day coomer

[@ethanlong4670]

I have had my eyes on a 2000 SS for a while now. I love it.

[@zacharysimmons9195]

A white 2000 SS was my first car and before I could drive it we got flooded and it destroyed the car, I was broken

[@bhcamaro2002]

I have a 02 SS on my channel check it out sometime

[@legoyoda6910]

@@bhcamaro2002 will do

[@grease1950]

Just got a 1999 SS for my first car

[@EdgySwordfish]

I had one of these back when i was a teen, a '94. My biggest complaint was how difficult it was to reach the back of the engine, since it was tucked underneath the dash. But i felt like a boss in it!

[@bhcamaro2002]

Haha yes! They are a pain to get that far back spark plug! I have a 02 SS if you wanna check it out

[@EdgySwordfish]

@@bhcamaro2002 that's clean! Love the centered exhaust. Makes me miss my catfish a little more now lol. You have that for long?

[@bhcamaro2002]

@@EdgySwordfish haha thanks! Yeah I've had the car for over 10 years now

[@EdgySwordfish]

Nice! I've never kept a car that long. Had a tendency to get bored. Kept the camaro for about 3 years, and a 240sx for about 5 years. Currently have an 08 mustang gt (blasphemy, i know!), had that for about 7 years now.

[@bhcamaro2002]

@@EdgySwordfish not bad, I like the 240s dont see them often in my area these days. Haha I've ran a boss 302 cause he kept instigating me it was a mistake on his part

[@rapzeh4]

The difference in used car marked is amazing, when comparing US to EU. I can't find a manual V8 from that era. An auto V8 is at least 10k.

[@Don_Melon]

I think it's easier to import one for about 1k

[@decoriumjohnson2085]

Have a 2000 SS and a Ws6 M6 I get offers often for both

[@francescolazzarino5028]

Murica

[@alexbautista1858]

They’re close to that out here too. This video showed lt1 cars at that low price.

[@Nopenotatall]

The firebird just looked so much better, I’d love me a ws6

[@hell-sol5240]

Yes it did

[@talonsx494]

Nope Nope s it always looked better than Camaro most of the time.

[@davidtrevino5211]

Agreed, except the 67-69...

[@Matt_Lanzer_13]

David Trevino nah first gen firebirds are way cooler than first gen camaros

[@matthewstansbury3047]

The SS looks like it could kick your ass and the WS6 looks like it’s on it’s way to do it. Lol

[@stngh8r]

4th gen F body is the "Bang for the Buck" HP and speed champion for 20 years and continuing...

[@bhcamaro2002]

That's right! I have one as well on my channel if you wanna check it out

[@hemiwarrior6226]

In 2020, I was just starting at the post office and I was looking for a right hand drive vehicle to do my route in. On the way from Georgia to Alabama, I stopped at a little used car dealer because out front, they had a 2002 Camaro SS 35th Anniversary Edition. It was the orange with the silver stripes that faded into checkered flags. It was the rarest Camaro they made that year because it had all the options you'd want, it had the higher horsepower motor, the better suspension (it was the WS6 on the Trans Am) and it had the cool center exit exhaust. The only thing was, it had been ridden HARD. Only had like 90k miles, but every interior surface was worn, the mats were gone, the carpet was worn, the wheels had curb rash, etc. It would've taken $2-3k to get it right, but the most major thing that was worn, was the SLP sticker. It was gone, so there was no way to know if it was real without calling SLP. Nonetheless, I test drove it and fucking loved it. It chirped the tires in 1st-4th gears. The dealer wanted $14k for it which, had it been in good shape, would've been a great deal, but not in the shape it was in, and not questioning its authenticity. I told the dealer I needed a couple days to research and he said he'd put it on hold for me. So I called SLP, gave them the VIN and they printed the report, it was real, it was built on 9/11/01 and had every performance option they had. I was on my WAY to the bank to take out $10k for an offer the following morning when I got a call from the dealer. He asked if I had accidentally kept the keys after I test drove it. I said "No why?" He said "I was afraid you'd say that. I'm so sorry, but someone stole it. The keys and the car were gone when I came in this morning." He said if it was recovered he'd sell it to me. But I'm not an idiot. I know that guy drove it into the crusher to collect the insurance money because he never would've gotten what he was asking for it.