Why EVERYONE Plays: Roy | Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

Hey everyone! We're back with another episode of Why EVERYONE Plays. This time we'll be going over arguably the most popular swordfighter in the game (at least before Aegis came out): Roy!
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[@SteampunkSalad]

Fun fact: in Fire Emblem, Roy has a reputation of being one of (if not THE) worst lords in the series. His stats are are either average or bad, he has no ranged options, low movement, and worst of all, he doesn't promote into a Master Lord until the 3rd to last chapter, meaning he’s essentially at half power until the game is practically over. THAT SAID, once he DOES promote, he basically one/two shots every enemy in the game - even freakin' dragons - using a legendary super-sword that fires explosions. So thematically, it kinda fits that he was bad for so long.

[@pigeonleader]

Roy in Melee and 4 was basically pre-promoted Roy

[@yoder6162]

Doesn't help his personality is nothing like his Smash iteration. He's actually pretty dull, but it's like that for everyone in his game. It was meant to be more simple and kid friendly compared to the complex, darker stories of the last few games before it.

[@Princetopher_]

@@yoder6162 Smash Roy is such an energetic and firey tough guy while Binding Blade Roy is more of a cripplingly depressed and insecure teenager

[@OwinBlazer]

I love that sword. It doesn't shoot fire; it shoots EXPLOSIONS. Plural!

[@patientnr.0409]

FE Roy be like: "Damn my bases are trash, at least my growths will be good right? RIGHT?" "Left"

[@Fiji_]

Bit of a weird pick but I’d love to see a why nobody plays about Sora. He was by far the most requested character but by now it seems the only people using him are completely new players or incredibly dedicated mains and kh fans. I think a lot of that has to do with how his moveset was designed and how satisfying he is to play. Either way I think he makes an interesting case and deserves a bit more attention, both good and bad.

[@IgnotusLotus]

I second this

[@DBE_TheZek]

If you want a short answer, he’s a lame character with technical combos that has uniquely unpleasant movement, as well as being the least competitively viable of the FP2 characters

[@nathanlevesque7812]

@@DBE_TheZek zero chill, haha

[@Fiji_]

@@DBE_TheZek I mean lame is subjective, I don’t entirely disagree I just think Vars has a really interesting way of breaking it down that I’m curious to hear

[@TheEmperorGulcasa]

I think the main problem is that his combos are really inconsistent and will or won't work based on tons of things like enemy percent, size and other properties. It means he doesn't have a lot of reliable stuff that works at reliable times on a lot of the cast. That and he's rather slow and floaty which means speedsters and such can get in on him and start knocking him around. And for all his issues he's not that explosive. Like Kazuya has a lot of eh properties, he can be slow and get comboed a lot, but then he catches you and you're done.

[@roberdash4079]

As someone who mains Roy in Melee, it made me really really happy to see him finaly being good, his attacks feels very strong and he is still very fast I sadly don't main him in Ultimate because of how different he feels to me

[@ImJustTooBased]

I’m just glad we didn’t get stuck with another marth clone

[@stevenliang3213]

@@ImJustTooBased : I mean we already have one (Lucina)

[@Jurra-x]

Really only keep up with melee but something I remember hearing is that Roy's kit has always been good, it's just that the engine in the previous games didn't work well for him Not sure how true that is but it's an interesting thought that all he needed was just an actual game

[@N12015]

I'm sure Roy's kit in Melee was genuinely awful. Had a lower damage output than Marth yet a laggier frame data. The amount of buffs he received on Smash 4 are insane: Very high movility instead of low one, higher weight, An amazing jab, much more kill options on F-tilt, U-tilt, F-Air and B-Air, great tech chase with d-tilt alongside his improved dash, lower endlag on all his aerials and considerably higher damage output.

[@npc_blob1609]

In melee some of his most important moves didn't even come out on the right span of frames so they ended just as they were supposed to be fully extended. I don't think it's an engine thing

[@Geneolgia]

Roy is very fun, his playstyle reminds me a lot of PM Roy which I played a lot of, sometimes however I get punished hard because the shorter range which is why I just go with Chrom when I'm doing badly.

[@EmeraldSageCipherus47368]

As an avid roy main since about August 2019 when I finally got out of my character crisis you definitely hit most if not all the nails on the head with this one I definitely think a part of his popularity, outside of his kit and aesthetic is because he was so utterly shafted for both melee and sm4sh that people wanted to try him again, and though he's really not that much different from his sm4sh counterpart, the physics engine of ultimate gave him so many indirect buffs he's definitely top 3 swordies material if you ask me. Well done again vars, love watching your content across all 3 channels!

[@soundrogue4472]

As someone who plays Roy (back when I played this game) Roy is fast, great pressure, amazing for dealing with grapplers and my favorite risky fighter!

[@Kurono_Alien]

Fun fact: Roy was not even in the top 10 most used characters in tournaments for 2022

[@ZeRedSpy]

I always hear “recent entries” as “recent centuries” and become briefly confused.

[@thomasstewart1380]

Roy is Little Mac with a sword. Which automatically makes his combo game more viable. You could really say Roy is what happens if Marth and Little Mac did the fusion dance.

[@bearholdinshark8441]

I'd like to see you make a video on Chrom, cuz I think it'd be interesting to see an analysis on why he doesn't see as the same representation and results that Roy achieves despite having the same moveset as him.

[@kone7549]

They have the same gameplan, which gives Roy the edge because holding forward towards the enemy basically always means his hiltboxes will land. This in turns gives Roy better damage and knockback most of the time. And although Chrom up-b is a goofy ahh sacrificial KO move, that also makes it a goofy ass recovery, since he has no other options and not getting to ledge means he starts playing "The Floor Is NFTs".

[@bancholeo55]

@@kone7549 By that same comparison, Chrom has far better ledgetrapping compared to Roy - Jab, Fsmash, and FTilt can all hit ledgehangs far more consistently, whereas Roy's Jab not only hits a small group of characters on ledge but will also sour when it DOES hit, the same goes for Roy's Fsmash. Chrom also can true combo into Jab Loops - which not only can catch airdodges but it starts with Jab > Nair 1 (fastfall immediately after Nair 1 connects) to repeat it at least 1-2 more loops for a Jab > Bair confirm (the most notable usage). While Roy's Jab Vortex technically isn't true to hitstun like Chrom's Jab Loops (because Chrom's Jab actually deals more hitstun than Roy's and has up to TWICE the frame advantage at 100%), it can still catch airdodges as well but it's also a bit tougher because Roy's Nair 1 doesn't deal enough hitstun compared to Chrom's (on top of that, Roy can only perform it by landing the sourspot of Nair 1, and not the sweetspot). There are various other differences that would necessitate a bit more character room, but outside of recovery, Chrom is actually just as effective as Roy and unlike Roy, he can also play defensively as a traditional swordie or wall & juggle more effectively as well. I love both of them and their my favorite swordies in Smash, they both can complement each other in the hands of a great player, like TK3 from Japan. Thanks for sharing!

[@festivetouch]

Chrom has a boring design. Roy has red hair.

[@rosegod444]

As a Roy main since 2015, this excites me!!!

[@benjason_94]

roy is not a glass cannon, only issue with this amazing video

[@roy_mezz-awake2470]

Chrom can’t hold a candle to Roy never insinuate that again

[@heybaeuwb8888]

When I was a kid my friend loved Marth on Melee and I picked up Roy as his rival I've played Roy since melee and have like 200 hrs I'm glad to see him in ultimate kicking butt the struggles

[@reallyhimongod]

Roy has been my fav character since Melee👌🏽

[@dirkmes6944]

Would like to see a ‘why I play’ series. Would be interesting to see what you like in a character

[@asdfworld]

"He's a swordie and hits like a truck" shows bowser

[@rayandthejets]

would love to see this on wolf!

[@Avatarbutters]

When I play against roy his yelling alone makes me anxious. Half of neutral is watching them swing at ghosts. 👻

[@pintitledploose9484]

I’d love to see why no one plays mii brawler

[@plush54andzenith53]

Why everybody plays Roy? He's the boy!

[@mitchlmitten5874]

I mained Roy since Smash 4, stopped playing Smash when the pandemic hit, and now everyone's talking about Roy like he's top 5. I feel like I missed the birth of my child

[@rodrigos7070]

id add that his visaul identity helps him a lot. He's a super cool character.

[@thebananaspeedruns9275]

You could have saved this for an April Fool video where you talk about the Bowser Jr. Roy

[@roy_mezz-awake2470]

He’s like Mike Tyson. Hits fast and heavy.

[@patientnr.0409]

To quote Happy Souls: "Because it's easy. And it does a lot of damage".

[@ElModistoDeConsolasRetro]

Roy para mi siempre fue un personaje llamativo para jugar pero pésimo para ganar en melee, aun así lo eh utilizado desde melee, project m y ahora en ultimate y me hace realmente feliz ver como Roy paso de ser el peor sword fighter en melee a uno de los mejores en ultimate. Es bellísimo!

[@boymanwonder3641]

Good Vid! Lovin the series so far. Shout out to Kola

[@snolls105]

steve sounds good. especially since he's a really weird fighter with a high skill floor, so it's weird to see him be so common.

[@himeistrying]

you play him because he's good, I play him because I like his game - we are not the same

[@mguo]

i’d love to hear your thoughts on steve, and especially in regards to smashcon

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

Because Roy's our boy. Nuff said.

[@acemaster3339]

Its odd that Ike lacks a ranged attack because his sword Ragnell is capable of attacking from range in his home games.

[@gameboyn64]

Ike is also a relatively fast character that jumps a lot yet is the slowest sword character with poor jumps and air physics.

[@ShadamAran]

Cause he’s a slap happy swords boy

[@kamui7555]

You should make a video on why everyone plays pyra and mythra

[@2FadeMusic]

I think some good characters for this series would be Wolf, Palutena, Cloud, Snake, Pythra, Ness, Pokemon Trainer, Steve

[@N12015]

Indeed, when i think about Roy i think about a rushdown character with a sword and kill power akin to a heavyweight. How it went from low tier to top tier? It's the same reason Marth went from top tier to low tier, because Ultimate rewards agression and going into the face. Of course he got direct buffs to jab and side-b matter a bit on neutral, but not near to the level of dash cancelling his amazing tilts or the reduced endlag of his aerials while also nerfing OoS grabs, making him a shield pressure monster instead of a "just shield and grab him" weakling. PS: For the next WEP i would want you to talk about your main, *Cloud.* He has been a top 10 in popularity for a while. Why is that considering he's only high tier?

[@TheEmperorGulcasa]

Well, also they made Marth's sweetspots ass to land, while Roy just needs to be up in people's face to always get them.

[@N12015]

@@TheEmperorGulcasa Mostly because of how easier is to get in your opponent's face, making consistent spacing almost impossible. The same mechanics that Roy loves hurts Marth A LOT, and Marth also received direct nerfs making him a much worse Lucina instead of the technical one.

[@TheEmperorGulcasa]

@@N12015 Well Marth's tippers are just noticeably small and hard to reliably land in and of itself. As for rushdown strength, I wouldn't say utlimate is overwhelmed by pure rushdown. Leo mostly plays spacing characters and does very well with them. Cloud is a very popular top pick who's strength is his spacing. Proto and Dabuz also see success with more spacing/zoning based characters. I will say that Marth and Lucina's very methodical approach with low explosive power is a bit dated, with characters like Byleth and Cloud having more explosive closing power in their kits.

[@178laaleros]

Roy has a awesome win screen but playing like kola takes a lot of tine

[@SuperHalo-rn4rr]

Roy was actually my main in melee. I was sorta sad he wasn't in brawl and Ike didn't really help, but I ended up really liking Meta Knight's style. But oooh boy in, second to Cloud, Roy's return in Smash4 really warmed my heart.😊 Even though I'm pretty much a Meta Knight and Sora main, it does feel good that Roy's truly getting noticed. I remember as a kid playing Melee with friends, landing that burst fire attack was so satisfying. As Melee used to cheer "Roy's Our Boy!!"

[@reigner-brown]

That’s still his chant in ultimate, too! (But I’m sure u knew that)

[@mickeybat5816]

Ngl I looked up the ken combo in smash and now I'm getting Ken the fighter and not the glorious 3 hit off stage combo lol

[@king_poyo64]

It’s simple, Roy is our boy.

[@SonicTheCutehog]

In order to make him good, they made him incredibly mashy.

[@__boo]

Wasnt link a sword fighter though back on N64?

[@four-en-tee]

Because he's good in this game, next question

[@orangeslash1667]

Roy was originally Going to be the main character in Fire Emblem Maiden of Darkness for the N64DD. During the making of Melee, Sakurai was instructed to put Roy in Smash before the game was finished. So he looked at his early concept art and made a move set based on that. However Maiden of Darkness was canceled, so Roy became the the lead of Binding Blade instead. Unfortunately Intelligent Systems changed his character into a duller Marth. Even Sakurai was disappointed of how Roy was in Binding Blade. It doesn't help ether that Binding Blade was the first Fire Emblem to be made without the original creator. So Roy in Smash represents what he could have been if Maiden of Darkness wasn't canceled.

[@Syrius_Li]

I was a Lucina main then swapped to Roy, it just felt right for some reason

[@thebigm8192]

As a VERY casual smash fan i can confirm, for me at least, Roy is probably one of the most fun characters to watch in a game, probably alongside Fox. The speed and power look amazing but they dont look or feel "cheap" so to say, unlike for example Kazuya and Terry.

[@raikagebanksy]

I’d love to see falco covered in some way

[@leomartinez4261]

He’s our boy

[@TheZexal]

Would love to see an episode on wolf. They're stupidly fun to play and would like to see someone put it into words

[@drew8235]

I've never minded the amount of FE characters we have, it's just a shame half of them are essentially the same character. Even from just the first GBA game most people played here in the west we could've had Hector, could've had a General character, could've had a Shaman. They could've done better for sure.

[@DaquaneJohnson]

I would love to see a video on Peach or Link. I play both and I think Peach is broken and Link has a lot of potential, but they aren’t really played.

[@deskosido4397]

Could you do a video explaining why no one plays duck hunt or ganondorf? The first its really a mistery for me, and the latter… We all know his flaws, but why the tradeoffs of speed/power dont really check out in SSBU?

[@vineclawex8397]

Duck Hunt's smash attacks suck, they don't link well at all (especially in Smash 4) - His camping game outside of neutral b is really weak and even then you can smack the can and if you do it turns the can around back at them, and now they have to spend time repositioning it AS WELL as turning it around with another hit, leaving them vulnerable - you can smack the gunmen in down b and they die in one hit, you can smack side b out of the air really easily as well - Dair kinda sucks cause it's a 2 hit dair (one to confirm into the dunk), it'd be better if it was just the 2nd hit - Uair blows because it's a 3 hit and multihits suck ass in Smash 4 and Ult - Also Up-B doesn't fucking go ANYWHERE reasonable unlike Villager/Isabelle or even ROB lmao Brood made DH look pretty sick in Smash 4 considering he was one of the best Duck Hunt mains in Japan AND the world

[@TheEmperorGulcasa]

Gannondorf can't make use of his power because he's so slow and his moves are mostly so slow that anyone else can get in or get away and hit him instead. Then once he's hit he gets comboed and sent off stage and his poor recovery sees him dying very early despite his high weight. His individual moves have a lot of power but his ability to ever hit with those moves is so abysmal that his actual damage output isn't good. And his survival is abysmal so he's not even a great tank who can just wait for the one big meaty hit. That's not to say heavy big high power characters don't work intrinsically. Bowser is actually pretty strong, being fairly fast and having much better framedata than Gannon. He's still got poor recovery so he can die early though. Kazuya is also kind of the epitome of slow ish but obscene raw power and he takes it to such an extreme that he literally can consistently kill of a single hit. And hey he's doing quite well. They had to overload him with broken properties like invincibility and such to do it, but it works. Gannon just has too few strengths and many weaknesses.

[@SsSoutlaw4SsS]

@@vineclawex8397 i agree with this except Up Air. Combos into itself and can kill. One of his better moves.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@TheEmperorGulcasa The good news is that Ganon if really Fun to play as in Double battles, why it's easier for people to make a mistake in double battles. He's also a good match up to Picachu beacause Wizards foot negates Thunder Jolt.

[@duke0salt717]

You gotta do Ridley bro

[@King_Kev78]

Please do why everyone plays link

[@BidetToYou]

You: "Marth and Roy were the first sword fighters in Smash." Link: "Haaaa?!"

[@trghhbnfjh867]

You should do a why everyone mains mario

[@thebokchoy6854]

today I learnt vars II and vars III are the same dude

[@Nin10doCentral]

Can you do a Why no one plays Chrom?

[@AdrianoDonizetiJr]

I'd like to see Pauletena!

[@tachy8005]

If you could do a video on meta knight next that would be amazing!

[@Coco0651]

2:47 well that didn’t age well

[@trudavy]

Is it weird that I still haven't purchased the Aegis? I got everyone else but they're not impressive in any way shape or form. Plus, I've never lost to one online

[@ImJustTooBased]

I’m ready for that marth video

[@s8r647]

Greninja!

[@wizdakilla7320]

Can we get a why no one plays metaknight?

[@patientnr.0409]

I know it's a dead horse but it will never not be funny how good Roy is considering he's unplayably bad in FE.

[@NodokenStar-k917]

Ma boi! 😍

[@kalikars81]

You touched on it at the end, but I also think Roy's prior underdog status (especially from Melee) is what enticed people to at least try Roy again. And when they did, they realized how amazing his kit feels now that it's all put together.

[@HakumeiTenshi]

As someone who played melee long before becoming aware of its competitive scene and being completely oblivious to things like frame data or hit boxes or any advanced, or hell, even basic tech. Roy was simply Marth with fire and therefore the coolest thing ever.

[@charlieserling5893]

exactly why I picked him up: everyone loves an underdog

[@BBB-pe3ip]

He went from an underdog that requires skill to an oppressive easy-mode bully lol

[@RTU130]

Ye

[@gotchocolatemilk1001]

@@HakumeiTenshi t

[@itsyaboychipsahoy.7989]

"Landing a hit on your opponent is never a bad thing" Luigi players:

[@Zekken_The_Lodestar]

There are still plenty of great combos he can pull off after 0% but they aren't as effective as the classic 0-death.

[@StormVII]

@@Zekken_The_Lodestar They mean the fact that Luigi can down-B while you're comboing. He can basically say 'Okay, your advantage is gone.'

[@DrTyranitar]

I'd love to see Wolf next in this series. On the other hand, I'd love to see a Why Nobody Plays on Pichu, discussing his extreme downfall from the early days of Ultimate

[@diogosalgado]

The close range bursty style, and also so prominent on the scene, Wolf would be pretty nice !

[@itsyaboychipsahoy.7989]

The reason noone plays Pichu is just the Pikachu video + the additional talking point of "Pichu's neutral doesn't exist. Advantage & disadvantage are the only phases of the game".

[@jman2050]

@@itsyaboychipsahoy.7989 I think that’s overly reductive. Pichu has a very different gameplan from Pikachu and the tools they share in common are used to different ends. Pikachu is a methodical defensive stalwart that is excellent at controlling space with his safe aerials and tjolt while being very threatening offstage, while Pichu uses his insane frame data and bevy of combo routes and mixups to constantly press advantage and keep the opponent in an endless vortex that’s extremely difficult to shake out of. In this sense while there’s a lot of overlap between the two there’s also a lot of divergence that’s worth exploring. Pikachu is clearly a stronger character (by virtue of not being nerfed to the ground, RIP pichu ftilt) but imo the gulf is not nearly as wide as some would have you believe.

[@moonwatchereclipse5291]

Void says in his opinion the pichu nerfs weren’t even that significant, and you had to play perfectly to do good with pichu, as one mistake costed you the game.

[@moonwatchereclipse5291]

@@itsyaboychipsahoy.7989 Pichu does have neutral, and their disadvantage, although they take self damage, is really really good.

[@ekh.123]

Before premiere: It's simple. 1: He has high mobility, and high mobility in a platform fighter is always really attractive. 2: His playstyle is simple enough for anyone to grasp. 3: His buttons are unusually safe and destructive for someone of his speed (which is why everyone refers to him as a masher character) 4: He can cheat. With high Rage, Side-B kills at ledge at around 40-60% on most high and top tiers, while F-Smash is about the same power with less windup. On a lesser note, landing those sweetspot moves on Roy's attacks feels SUPER good, like you're really slicing their soul away with every hit. Gets even better if you connect that sweetspot F-Smash. After premiere: Yep. He’s just really satisfying and comfortable to play.

[@DoMorrMusic]

you forgot two things: fire and Flare Blade.

[@moviegametime3891]

I agree. He's probably the only character that can get away with playing so stupidly agressive lol. He's actually probably my hardest matchup but the good thing is that he's helping me learn to be more patient and calculating.

[@JJuiicceee]

The Sweetspot F-Smash after a roll read is amazing

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

5: Roy's our boy.

[@RTU130]

Ye

[@alexandermcmillan8056]

Here before the premier, I remember maining Roy before Pythra's release. He is so fun to use and a lot of his tech and setups are easy to grasp like jair and wave-bouncing. Very satisfying to play, although I don't main him anymore he is still fun to play

[@AutisticJesusGaming]

Yo literally The best dude on my esports team plays Roy and Pythra

[@alexandermcmillan8056]

@@AutisticJesusGaming Lol a good combo. I don't main Pythra anymore but both are very fun to play.

[@jak3w]

Dumb question, I don't play any sword characters what is a jair and how do you do it? I assume it's jab air?

[@alexandermcmillan8056]

@@jak3w You good, jair is Jab -> Back Air. Only Roy and Chrom can do it because their jab is single it. Around 80% they will start jabbing on the ledge to catch a neutral getup, enemies hit by the jab will be hit by the turnaround, RAR, or attack cancel back air as their back air turns then around. Essentially jair is Roy/Chrom kill confirm at ledge using their unique jab to lead into a back air

[@jak3w]

@@alexandermcmillan8056 appreciate you, do you have to rar the bair? Seems like a tight window

[@liveatthemaximum5540]

Because he's our boy

[@victorpena8356]

I randomly used Roy one time after playing a lot as Sheik, and I cant describe how amazing it felt. The clean hits, the super easy kills, the disjoints, the damage, it felt like heaven. Roy is likely one of the most fun and strong characters to use in this game, If a new smash bros comes out in the future i Hope the devs put this amount of fun in most of the cast. just make everyone broken in their own way.

[@IgnotusLotus]

I totally agree with your last sentence

[@jirehtheprovider]

simply, the ICEFROG method. If everyone is overpowered, no one will be.

[@nathanlevesque7812]

then every character would be mashy too

[@MangoRiko]

every character is already broken in their own way. thats why character complaints are so rampant.

[@aisushitai2680]

@@MangoRiko L take

[@bnsz8704]

He’s popular because he’s really good, very smooth to play, powerful, and fun

[@fluffydemon1]

Yea, Roy is just really fun to play. I don't like waiting around when playing games because I have no patience so Roy and Chrom are really fun for me to play. I don't main them and I don't play competitively but they're fun to pull out and just harass my friends with

[@amphicyon4359]

Roy imo has some of the best game-feel for people who are at sub tournament level for competitive smash. Everything feels impactful, powerful and useful to rack damage and take stocks, and no deficit feels impossible to overcome.

[@Ziegrif]

I thought it was just because Roy is their boy.

[@VJ-Vice]

Probably a hot take but Roy’s way easier to play at all levels of play than Pyra and Mythra imo. Aegis get a ton of shit from a lot of the community but they’re more precise than you’d think, especially Mythra since her shield safety isn’t actually that great and lack of consistent true combos (sure Mythra has a crazy advantage state but that still requires proper reads and covering options that can be a little underwhelming against characters with really good disadvantage states). Of course combine that precision with a very exploitable recovery and they are far from brain dead. I think this is also reflected in usage since Roy statistically has quite a bit higher usage than aegis at all levels, and that’s something you just don’t see if aegis was the dumb easy win top tier she’s often made out to be

[@benjaminwalker9369]

So true except for the lowest level where pyra f smash carries you

[@Za_Phantom]

I call aegis super fundies characters cuz they have great tools and can carry you really far, but only if you know how to REALLY play the game. even with Pyra stray hits and foresight, they play the game out like most of the other neutral based/ledge trappy top tiers. There wins aren't that free.

[@zin5582]

@@Za_Phantom I’ve been saying this the day she came out, she’s literally another palu/wolf/joker. Unlike all the Steve players, the only people who have done really well with pyra/Mythra are top players who were already doing really good

[@zin5582]

@@benjaminwalker9369 pyra fsmash is dog what are you on about

[@benjaminwalker9369]

@@zin5582 yeah ik but when it bad you run into it and lose cause it bad

[@IgnotusLotus]

Another commenter already mentioned this, but a “why no one plays Sora” would be fascinating. I was one of the many who wanted Sora for a very long time, and I do “main him” in the sense that he’s part of my top 10 most played characters (I’m a casual who plays semi-competitively with friends). But I can’t help but feel disappointed with how Sora turned out moveset and “feel” wise

[@kaito2220]

12:07 "Roy is to smash ultimate what cloud was to smash 4" Sorry but cloud was way worse in what he could abuse in that game XD EVERYONE had a pocket cloud, he would've been the game killer if bayonetta didn't come along and do it lmao

[@aisushitai2680]

People who say they're pro Roy players are the equivalent of people saying they're pro Garen players in League of Legends.

[@SparklingHarmony]

One more thing about Roy is how nice it feels when he lands (sweetspot) hits. They legit feel powerful and with the split second slow mo, special effects and the sound, it's really satisfying. You feel like a king when you land that f smash or back air and the opponent blasts off.

[@BlackKnightsCommander]

Getting called out wtf. I love Roy so I secondaried him since launch, oh boy do I not regret it. Nowadays since my Ike got way better I usually just pull Roy out for Min Mins or Pikachus but he's still my boy.

[@AshenDemon]

Bro my friend plays Roy and I was doing a tournament for my birthday and we both met in loser bracket. I was winning but then he f smashed me at 50 and I died and lost the tournament. This character has no weaknesses.

[@nathanlevesque7812]

People don't want to mention the main reason. Roy is mashy.

[@DeepfriedBeans4492]

3:43 this is false, a good amount of moves are negative on hit and can get punished if the opponent isn't damaged enough to be sent beyond the range where they can quickly attack you, although I don't think it's really a problem for roy's normals

[@arena_sniper7869]

Getting hit can also take you out of kill confirm percentages so you survive longer.

[@sovereignflux1664]

I main Roy because Fire Emblem 7 was my first game, so I'm biased to the Elibe series. I use the Eliwood alt for him. But when I moved from 4 to ultimate, It felt beautiful to have him feel so smooth to play.

[@Nin10doCentral]

I think the best way to describe Roy’s bread and butter is this: he’s the opposite of heavyweights, in the sense that he can play extremely aggressively with his disjointed range and fast attacks, whereas heavies have to play patiently and wait for their opponents to make a mistake.

[@stormRed]

"Why does everyone play Roy?" Simple, it's because he is in fact, *our* boy.

[@ImRubyRose350]

Man...you NEVER hit the Sourspot with Roy, NEVER! Man unless you are a Zoner of course...Im sorry but Roy for me is a Braindead Character...Mash to win...That frame data and the Sweetspot combined are just this: "Mash to win"

[@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63]

I'm a captain falcon main and I still feel like I'm better with Roy. He really is just so intuitive to use at a decent level and I think that disjoint has another advantage. I don't like the inherent risk brawlers have to take since they have to get close before they attack, but the slower hits of characters like Ike and Byleth are even harder for me to manage. Roy doesn't have the mobility of captain falcon, but he can still fight close range very effectively. He doesn't have the range of Ike or Byleth, but it still allows him to attack from farther away and thus with a little less risk. Roy might not be a braindead character, but he does give your brain time to rest more than a lot of other characters.

[@npc_blob1609]

Fatality has described Roy as basically a better version of Falcon so this checks out

[@matthewhamilton2287]

As a Roy/Ike main, us Roy mains randomly alternate between two modes, the first of which is where we are an unstoppable combo monster that will destroy you so hard you lose a stock irl, or we are attacking literally nothing and will die by using down air somewhere off ledge. We have no control over when we switch between these modes

[@expio4257]

Roy is good because he is very simple to play and understand, but incredibly effective. To quote Dracula Flow, "On and off the court, straight fundamentals. No funny business."

[@DreamlandKing]

I first thought that there shouldn't be so much Fire Emblem characters in Smash but after playing a FE game. I WANT MORE

[@rurounijay7100]

As a chroy main, this video meant a lot to me. I understand it on this level, but as you mentioned, a vast majority of involvement be it players or spectators are casual, and as such they have a strong dislike for my characters, and believe it to be very easy, whats more, they genuinely dont wish to understand the character on a deeper level. So this felt like a personal victory for me who receives so much hate on a constant basis for beating people fair and square most of the time.

[@aisushitai2680]

*Plays one of the easiest most forgiving characters on the entire SSBU roster* *Cries because "casual fans don't understand me"* Dude you are a casual fan. Play anything other than Garen McSwordsman and come back when you have a nuanced character roster.

[@matthewhamilton2287]

@@aisushitai2680 Dude, don't be toxic. Swordies universally get a lot of hate since they are easy to pick up, so no one really looks into some of the skill needed for a lot of the setups. It's understandable for them feel happy that there's someone explaining their character's ins and outs, instead of being hated on because people don't want to learn the matchup. And also, some people just enjoy swordies, so don't be a doucheweed, and can it

[@aisushitai2680]

@@matthewhamilton2287 I was specifically talking about Roy, but get butthurt too if you want with your anime flavored He-Man main.

[@calvin8464]

@@aisushitai2680 Okay, let's hear about how this guy's characters are so deep and 200 IQ

[@NFYT]

@@aisushitai2680 yoo chill roy ain't no game and watch you have to know to actually do shit, jab to back air isn't as easy as ppl make it out to be, side B has a lot of endlag so if you miss you can get even F smashed, his F smash kills a lot but its very punisheable if you know what you're doing, you have to do a lot of spacing and fast fall, its not what i'd call easy, you have to learn plenty of combos and stuff, its not steve where you just have to know how to do up air block up air up air, roy IS forgiving, but not easy 💀💀. His recovery is exploitable, as a swordie he doesn't have that much range compared to other fighters (the difference is disjoint, not range lmao), half of the sword deals like, half the DMG half the knockback too, just get better lmao

[@sicko5821]

Roy mains preparing for their usual neutral with their dash dances, mind games and combos (they have schizophrenia)

[@ash1yn]

1:30 he’s a swordie and he hits like a truck. This can also be said for other characters. *shows bowser* Hmm yes bowser is my favorite swordie

[@cheezzyyy3598]

I'd love to see a video on Pokémon Trainer in the future! They're such a cool and unique character but surprisingly don't get that much representation in the competitive scene (at least at the top level).

[@ToadetteTails6969]

They're also top tier according to Hungrybox, as they're essentially three characters in one (like Pyra/Mythra being two-in-one).

[@SSM24_]

I assume a big part of it is that you effectively have to learn 3 characters at once, making them much more of a commitment to learn than a lot of characters. Not only does this mean getting comfortable with 3 movesets and being able to switch between them on the fly, but also kind of learning 3 times as many matchups - you have to know what Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard can each do against your opponent. They're definitely really rewarding and super fun when you start to get that down, but I can understand why most people would opt for a more straightforward character instead.

[@ToadetteTails6969]

@@SSM24_ Or, y'know, Aegis? You only need to compute two characters and their pros and cons are straightfoward (Strong but Slow for Pyra, speedy yet low damage for Mythra). Squirtle is the lightweight combo pokemon, Ivysaur is the mid-weight stock-taker and Charizard is the heavy-weight tank with good recovery options. So, I see your point. Roy is also a very straight forward, fast and strong character. If I ever mained any of the FE characters, I'd choose Roy alongside Byleth.