Why F1's most broken driver line-up can't be saved

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@wisanu99
@wisanu99 8 ай бұрын
Oscar Piastri dodged the bullet big time.
@FabledGentleman
@FabledGentleman 8 ай бұрын
Piastri is an intelligent and very focused human being. And he has the right people around him to give him proper advice. I believe Piastri is the next big name in the sport, he is going to let the driving do the talking and just make wise decisions.
@RACECAR
@RACECAR 8 ай бұрын
Between this guy and the awful upper management at Alpine, he's dodged several. Helps that his manager Mark Webber was also seeing the signs that something was up.
@ringoferrer2343
@ringoferrer2343 8 ай бұрын
he didn't dodge a bullet, he dodged an entire fucking canon
@michaelcobbin
@michaelcobbin 8 ай бұрын
@@FabledGentleman Piastri has the same raw speed that Verstappen and Vettel had early in their F1 careers without being accidental-prone. I have yet to see Piastri cause an accident in an F1 race, dispute having outright aggression in overtaking. His tyre management challenges will be addressed by the end of the year. In addition, Piastri is happy to be a team player. Zak Brown would be more than happy with his $20 million decision.
@thisaraperera3678
@thisaraperera3678 8 ай бұрын
In hindsight it's hilarious some people blamed him for not being loyal to the team that brought him through their academy. No loyalty needed when the the team is inwardly and outwardly a dumpster fire.
@Alcatraz760
@Alcatraz760 8 ай бұрын
I find the comparisons to Kmag that some people love to point out hilarious. Kmag is the polar opposite of Ocon. Kmag will make dumb and risky decisions exclusively to other teams, has never put hulkenberg as risk, and will happily sit behind hulkenberg creating a train if it means hulkenberg and haas score a point. Every team would rather deal with kmag's shenanigans than Ocon's.
@SanchezS1998
@SanchezS1998 8 ай бұрын
True. KMag’s antics have only ever hurt Hulk once, and whether or not it was his or Perez’s fault is up to who you ask.
@lukas_jay243
@lukas_jay243 8 ай бұрын
Until he wiped them both out trying to stay ahead of Hulk behind Perez.
@swidr5626
@swidr5626 8 ай бұрын
They are both like sodium and chlorine tho so maybe joining them together isn't such a bad idea?
@Alcatraz760
@Alcatraz760 8 ай бұрын
@@SanchezS1998 At least never an intentional attack on hulk. In that monaco crash, kmag only focused on perez, and hulk's positioning was just unfortunate. Had hulk been in perez's place, kmag would've never made that lunge and would've stayed back.
@MuhammadNiz007
@MuhammadNiz007 8 ай бұрын
But every team will take a fast driver like ocon who may be selfish can drive car faster. Alpine trying to suit the car to Gasly's driving style hasn't really helped the fact Ocon has so far destroyed Galsy
@crispybanana3198
@crispybanana3198 8 ай бұрын
ah yes the years old nemesis of french people... other french people
@KA-om9oz
@KA-om9oz 8 ай бұрын
The sexual tension has been too much for the two
@aj897
@aj897 8 ай бұрын
@@KA-om9oz Always one weirdo making up stuff, you secretly hating who you want to be with doesn’t mean everyone does that.
@Vahron
@Vahron 8 ай бұрын
As a French, can confirm. We hate all each other, it's in our blood.
@KA-om9oz
@KA-om9oz 8 ай бұрын
@@aj897 it’s a joke Karen. Get triggered much? Hahaha
@RACECAR
@RACECAR 8 ай бұрын
@@aj897 Lighten up, its a joke. Its not that deep.
@rishabh3150
@rishabh3150 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, fair play to Webber and Zak Brown in orchestrating Mclaren's swoop of Piastri.. otherwise we wouldn't be seeing Piastri's true pace at Mclaren and he would be stuck in that hell-hole ..
@Hecate24
@Hecate24 8 ай бұрын
Piastri is so lucky to have a fellow aussie to look after him. a well connected and respected one too. glad he didn't get to sign to that dumpster fire of a team
@hbrown689
@hbrown689 7 ай бұрын
I'm still convinced Webber and Alonso had discussions to time Alonso's announcement that he was leaving with Alpines option on Piastri running out so that they could both escape
@ankitbera1482
@ankitbera1482 8 ай бұрын
Ocon vs Gasly, Ocon vs Alonso, Ocon vs Perez -------- All these 3 battles proved who is to blame here. Ocon needs to go.
@zlm4869
@zlm4869 8 ай бұрын
It was Perez, when they were tm8s lol, what you on about
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 8 ай бұрын
Yes, there's an obvious trend.
@jkliao6486
@jkliao6486 8 ай бұрын
@@zlm4869 And it's obviously Alonso and Gasly in the other two cases, Ocon is clearly the cleanest and most innocent driver in all three cases.
@zlm4869
@zlm4869 8 ай бұрын
@@jkliao6486 nice sarcasm it suits you
@nathanb286
@nathanb286 8 ай бұрын
I’d rather have him being fast and having a few clashes rather than someone else like Jack Doohan that would be further off the pace
@lil3033
@lil3033 8 ай бұрын
The race has probably been sitting on this video since gasly to alpine was confirmed
@tiax1592
@tiax1592 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 history always repeats itself
@titancheat
@titancheat 8 ай бұрын
Piastri made the right move. Driving for Renault/alpine as well as along with ocon is not the move..
@aj897
@aj897 8 ай бұрын
Seems like French teams have fights for weird reasons, I heard the English and French speaking employees stay at different hotels……
@InvertedFreeSolo
@InvertedFreeSolo 8 ай бұрын
Has to be up there with the best driver moves in history tbh. He'd be stuck with Ocon at the back of the grid instead of fighting for podiums in the MCL38.
@Peachrocks5
@Peachrocks5 8 ай бұрын
There were always signs things weren't right at Alpine. I think Riccardo leaving the team was the first red flag. A pity he never got to grips with the McLaren and everything that happened after but the move at least was strategically sound. There are things that are not right within that team and it's not just the drivers that show this.
@danielmatheson7305
@danielmatheson7305 8 ай бұрын
And likely set up Doohan for an F1 seat.
@durodesduvo8424
@durodesduvo8424 8 ай бұрын
He’d probably be too far ahead of Ocon to be bothered by him.
@scottmeredith3359
@scottmeredith3359 8 ай бұрын
Seems like Gasly cares about beating their rivals, and Ocon has only ever cared about beating his teammates. As long as Ocon is beating Gasly he doesn’t care how slow they are, while Gasly seems outraged he can’t race further up the field. Ocon has never showed any maturity racing his teammates.
@AlanpittsS2b
@AlanpittsS2b 8 ай бұрын
I agree. Gasley has always had good relationships with his team mates. I used to hate Pierre but I like him now and ocon has not matured or progressed with teammates at all he has been doing these things for years. I do think a lot of drivers would go for that gap at Monaco but ocon is not going to improve
@joseagui4924
@joseagui4924 8 ай бұрын
Exactly! Finally someone has some common sense. It is true, people deny Ocon being a pain by saying he’s faster than Gasly- he’s faster, not a better driver. I’ve already spouted a lot about it across this comment section, but yeah! He’s too much of a pain for both F1 and Alpine
@4vepvik781
@4vepvik781 8 ай бұрын
Ocon has become a more toxic version of Grosjean..Crash happy..Never behaved like that before.
@arnoldmbuthia2687
@arnoldmbuthia2687 8 ай бұрын
Why tf would you hate à driver??? Were you à teenager or younger perhaps?? That's too immature​@@AlanpittsS2b
@MediocreAverage
@MediocreAverage 8 ай бұрын
And side-point: ocon's social media apology wasn't really an apology either. It was one of those where all these reasons for an apology are given, but none of them address what the issue was.
@rafaiah333
@rafaiah333 8 ай бұрын
This is not a Gasly-Ocon problem. It’s just an Ocon problem. Would happen and did happen to any other teammate.
@Urgrannytranny
@Urgrannytranny 7 ай бұрын
There's that popular saying: idiots will bring you down to their level and defeat you with their superior stupidity. Same thing goes for Ocon in alpine
@superking-nicolaslucau7252
@superking-nicolaslucau7252 7 ай бұрын
​@@UrgrannytrannyHow did Ocon defeat anybody? His stupidity got him out of the team.
@SpartanArmy117
@SpartanArmy117 7 ай бұрын
This exactly. I can't name a teammate he hasn't had an issue with. Not to mention all the other drivers not in his team that also have problems with him.
@davestagner
@davestagner 8 ай бұрын
If I was running an F1 team, I certainly wouldn’t choose as teammates two guys who have hated each other in a very personal way since they were 10 years old.
@joostprins3381
@joostprins3381 7 ай бұрын
If I was running a F1 team I just would never choose Ocon at all.
@Harrypilez
@Harrypilez 8 ай бұрын
Ocon drives likes he's got that Stroll insurance policy
@LaChartre
@LaChartre 8 ай бұрын
Christ. Any excuse to insult stroll eh?
@markbogdan2
@markbogdan2 7 ай бұрын
@@LaChartre Where's the insult? Daddy's team = insurance he won't be dropped even if he drives/behaves the way he does
@LaChartre
@LaChartre 7 ай бұрын
@@markbogdan2 what bad behavior does stroll display?
@NRocky94
@NRocky94 7 ай бұрын
@@LaChartre Blaming other drivers for his numerous mistakes ?
@getnaenaed4222
@getnaenaed4222 7 ай бұрын
@@LaChartre I see you just figured out what jokes are!
@jarnomeekes6756
@jarnomeekes6756 8 ай бұрын
Backmarkers, manufacturer team, civil war. Disgrace of a works team
@moStallion
@moStallion 8 ай бұрын
They're French it's typical. The French also colonized. They are inherently problematic
@tomsonfire3740
@tomsonfire3740 8 ай бұрын
That's the French for you. Arrogance
@sephiros9883
@sephiros9883 8 ай бұрын
Complete disgrace. I was a Renault fan but this is just an embarrassment.
@bundesautobahn7
@bundesautobahn7 8 ай бұрын
The ultimate downfall of Team Enstone.
@AdmiralMoo
@AdmiralMoo 8 ай бұрын
@@sephiros9883i’m really feeling that. I was a huge Renault fan because of the Alonso years and I felt like they were a respectable team with history until they became Alpine
@lukavujeva6584
@lukavujeva6584 8 ай бұрын
Ocon is not an asset for any team. The facts are that he is fast but nothing like Max, Alonso, Hamilton and rest of the top tier, he is seen as unlikable personality, bad teammate and therefore as someone with very limited fan base. The latter means, his marketing value is negligible.
@bikerjon8934
@bikerjon8934 8 ай бұрын
and he's adix
@MuhammadNiz007
@MuhammadNiz007 8 ай бұрын
Ocon beat Alonso, he beat Perez and he beat Gasly. He is undoubtedly an asset especially because he can drive car's with lose rear end something Fernando and Galsy always struggled with and had the development changed to understeer
@zachbishop5421
@zachbishop5421 8 ай бұрын
I don't think I've even heard someone support ocon 😂 maybe back when he was out for a year and was going to Renault ppl said some nice stuff about him but not really since 😂
@zachbishop5421
@zachbishop5421 8 ай бұрын
@@MuhammadNiz007 I mean he's guaranteed to cost a team 5-10 mil in crash damage and take out both cars like 3 times a year so you have to weigh the pros and cons I wonder why alpine is wanting to bench him leading the team in points and backing him for years is probably because it's not worth it anymore 😂
@mayanksharma5478
@mayanksharma5478 8 ай бұрын
Your dear Max crashtrappen has collided with Ricciardo multiple times, Your dear Hamilton has collided with Jenson Button and Nico Rosberg multiple times, Top tier Vettel has done it multiple times with Webber and don't get me started on Alonso being a bad teammate. Ocon is an asset to any F1 team, it's just your hatred and blindly following a trend has made you hate him.
@khasmir666
@khasmir666 8 ай бұрын
Ocon just couldn't cope with the fact that Gasly got in front of him, he's like a little child that got his candy taken away. He's so immature and unprofessional...
@antoniohagopian213
@antoniohagopian213 8 ай бұрын
Not like, he IS a kid.
@thesonofthesouth
@thesonofthesouth 7 ай бұрын
He saw a gap and went for it. He’s a racing driver who knows he’s not got a seat next year, I dunno why anyone’s surprised
@Rayer24
@Rayer24 7 ай бұрын
And french
@challengengerzzz
@challengengerzzz 7 ай бұрын
​@@thesonofthesouth This aged well
@Joe-wj7ku
@Joe-wj7ku 8 ай бұрын
Ocon made Alonso look cooperative. That says it all.
@mags8888
@mags8888 8 ай бұрын
Alonso takes care of daddy’s little baby, you know
@albertopinoblanco
@albertopinoblanco 7 ай бұрын
Well, Ocon is too down the list. Alonso IS cooperative.
@SpartanArmy117
@SpartanArmy117 7 ай бұрын
Alonso can work with the right line up and the right team. Ocon can't. He's just an a hole and that's all there is to it.
@matheuscruz19
@matheuscruz19 7 ай бұрын
​@@SpartanArmy117Say that to: McLaren, Renault, Ferrari, McLaren again and Alpine... He's not a saint you know?
@method0409
@method0409 7 ай бұрын
Are you really trying to defend Ocon? Mate, please ...
@Kiwing827
@Kiwing827 8 ай бұрын
Monoco GP is essentially Alpine's home race, the big boss from Renault are probably there. Crashing in front of your paymaster is bad enough, but crashing with your teammate is a spit in their face. Famin is right to be furious at Ocon, Since this season is a writeoff for Alpine, benching Ocon with Doohan isn't going to change the team result much and they get to evaluate Doohan for next year.
@OhGrowUpPodcast
@OhGrowUpPodcast 8 ай бұрын
Piastri dodged a train wreck lol
@sar4806
@sar4806 8 ай бұрын
Ocon is a clown who always takes racing against his teammates to the extreme.
@maximem5356
@maximem5356 8 ай бұрын
Well that’s what f1 is about. IMO he is an og f1 driver not a modern day nice guy driver. I’m not saying his actions are always correct not at all but I respect it
@rolef6084
@rolef6084 7 ай бұрын
@@maximem5356bro ur there to score as many points as possible and beat ur teammate that way, not like ocon does driving like hed prefer a 19-20 instead of a 1-2 if it means hed be ahead of his teammate
@Luchingador
@Luchingador 8 ай бұрын
You would think him not being remotely considered for the Merc seat despite being a Merc driver should been a wake up call
@jeffbarnett3702
@jeffbarnett3702 8 ай бұрын
Toto is also his manager!!
@stevenmoran4060
@stevenmoran4060 8 ай бұрын
⁠says it all!
@RACECAR
@RACECAR 8 ай бұрын
@@jeffbarnett3702 After what he had to deal with between Rosberg and Hamilton, I can't really blame him for NOT having Ocon there. Guy seems like he wants to throw hands with ANYONE he's paired up with.
@Peachrocks5
@Peachrocks5 8 ай бұрын
Yeah Ocon may have the talent to be in f1 but not the mentality. With all the talent currently not on the grid this probably will be Ocon's last season unless he can prove to somebody that he's grown up a bit with a few seasons as a test driver.
@deegan463
@deegan463 8 ай бұрын
100%. Thank you. Also, remember when he was in the running for the Mercedes seat in 2019/for the 2020 season? And for various reasons, they kept Bottas.
@badee3_94
@badee3_94 8 ай бұрын
Ocon is very toxic
@kuglepen64
@kuglepen64 8 ай бұрын
Ocon and KMAG dream team. Make it happen!
@watson956
@watson956 8 ай бұрын
LOL! 😎🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@stephanetessier3378
@stephanetessier3378 8 ай бұрын
How many races before there is a fistfight between those two? I like it!
@Andrew-rd4ig
@Andrew-rd4ig 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@MahF1V10
@MahF1V10 8 ай бұрын
Sunday Sunday Sunday! Most expensive destruction derby you have ever seen.
@MichaelCampbell01
@MichaelCampbell01 8 ай бұрын
Mazepin and Grosjean as backups...
@thilinadhanapala1399
@thilinadhanapala1399 8 ай бұрын
Ocon is selfish
@DontForgetOldKolobok
@DontForgetOldKolobok 8 ай бұрын
Ocon: the guy your driving instructor warned you about
@zippy6667
@zippy6667 8 ай бұрын
I’d be taking Gasly and binning Ocon. The guy is one torpedo away from having his garage moved from next to Gasly to Faslane.
@Sidak_studio
@Sidak_studio 8 ай бұрын
I don't why an team principal would get ocon he literally toxic
@Purpleblurb
@Purpleblurb 7 ай бұрын
Cus he's fast.
@Collouk1
@Collouk1 7 ай бұрын
He’s slightly above average, not worth the hassle
@Purpleblurb
@Purpleblurb 7 ай бұрын
@@Collouk1 an average racing driver is way worse than for example mazepin.
@mkaczynski4
@mkaczynski4 8 ай бұрын
To be honest, a driver pairing that doesn't like each other can still work if they are professional enough. But Ocon never was professional, he didn't work well with Checo and he didn't work well with Fernando. And, given his arrogance, I don't think he'll ever work well with anybody
@Arganyn
@Arganyn 7 ай бұрын
The only reason it slightly works is Gasly is the likeable one on that line up and wants to better the team. Can only go so far if the other end of the garage is a toxic, head up his own arse prick that destroys any harmony because he wants to be top of the team.
@Meklerens
@Meklerens 8 ай бұрын
Hopefully Ocon won't get a new seat in F1
@rockandrollrockandrollrock6930
@rockandrollrockandrollrock6930 8 ай бұрын
When you have the same problem with 3 different teammates, it’s pretty obvious who’s at the root of it. Plus a Gasly and Doohan lineup is way more interesting and likable anyway.
@donaldduck4888
@donaldduck4888 7 ай бұрын
Bring him to Mercedes please - the look on Toto's face as he takes out Russell would be priceless!
@simonh870
@simonh870 8 ай бұрын
No matter where Ocon goes he will have issues with his team mate. It makes you wonder why any other team would actually want him.
@blackjacktrial
@blackjacktrial 8 ай бұрын
He just needs to be in a one driver team. They exist, and then he's responsible for the whole team's fortunes. I think that suits his philosophy better than "my job is to try to win, but I need to be less win-focused around this one guy who I'm measured against more than the others anyway", which seems to be how he views same-team drivers. Given that, he's going to be toxic either in a Monaco way, or in a 'not really helping the weaker teammate' way in a multi-car outfit.
@dustinabigan2776
@dustinabigan2776 8 ай бұрын
Bruno Famin showing clear anger at that move was probably a boiling over of things even from last year. He wasn't team principal then but Monaco 2024 showed that nothing changed between this year and last between Ocon and Gasly. I doubt he will actually bench Ocon but it should be a stern warning that nothing like this should happen again this year.
@MuhammadNiz007
@MuhammadNiz007 8 ай бұрын
Well I wouldn't be surprised Famin benches him because Famin fired Otmar in spa weekend to make himself the team principal and get the lime light. He is the same guy who is responsible for alpines engine and the same guy who told the team to praise his engine work although it's the worse on the grid by a good margin. He is the same guy who was responsible for contract's of Oscar. The same guy who forced otmat and Laurent to delay Fernando's deal . I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he gets benched for Canada but I also wouldn't be surprised to see a law suit as there is no way in hell a manager like Toto Wolff wouldn't have mentioned everything in details and a billionaire like him can practically ruin Bruno's life
@antoniohagopian213
@antoniohagopian213 8 ай бұрын
​@@MuhammadNiz007Toto doesn't care at all about this junk of a "driver" otherwise he would have got the Mercedes seat instead of georgie boi.
@aj897
@aj897 8 ай бұрын
Doohan is going to get an opportunity earlier than expected imo.
@aj897
@aj897 8 ай бұрын
@@antoniohagopian213 George has been signed for months, you don’t know what you’re talking about lol.
@TFAmbience
@TFAmbience 8 ай бұрын
​@@aj897no, you don't know what he's talking about. He's saying that if Toto really wanted Ocon, then Ocon would have gotten the seat over George. And that didn't happen. Reading comprehension is hard, huh?
@BigCalm48
@BigCalm48 8 ай бұрын
So glad Piastri isn't stuck in some petty Ocon bullshit early in his f1 career. Might have completely changed his trajectory.
@demonsarisingmetal
@demonsarisingmetal 8 ай бұрын
Ocon is the worst teammate in F1 he has such a broken philosophy.
@ImreBertalan86
@ImreBertalan86 8 ай бұрын
There are exactly 4 drivers I don't want to see on the grid - Ocon (he needs his own team where hs is the ONLY driver) - Stroll (daddys little boy causing more damage than Magnussen to Haas) - Zhou (no hard feelings, just maybe not enough??) - and Logan (just not enough)
@ouss
@ouss 8 ай бұрын
Ocon vs Russell will be interesting.....
@abbofun9022
@abbofun9022 7 ай бұрын
The moaning and whining would be intolerable
@MajikPPMan
@MajikPPMan 7 ай бұрын
Will never happen lol I don't think toto will ever be that desperate 😂
@JamaicanMeCrazy
@JamaicanMeCrazy 8 ай бұрын
Nobody expected this to work..I don't expect ocon to be in F1 much longer. Ocons strategy is sound ..if you beat your teammate you can't get fired... But he will try and beat them by any means necessary he's proven that from the beginning.
@MrDufDaddy
@MrDufDaddy 8 ай бұрын
agreed. No one (RB, Merc) is going to put him in as a #2 because he will never submit to another driver and why would teams like Haas or Williams risk the damage he creates? Neither has the resources to deal with in fighting or wrecking a teammate. He's also shown no capability to help improve any of the cars he's been in.
@Grexen-bo6zp
@Grexen-bo6zp 8 ай бұрын
Sadly he will still be in F1 for more years to come.
@freyalove3831
@freyalove3831 7 ай бұрын
​@@Grexen-bo6zp if Ocon doesn't change his attitude he won't be for long in F1.
@Grexen-bo6zp
@Grexen-bo6zp 7 ай бұрын
@@freyalove3831 That I hope, but I don't see it. He has gotten away with his attitude for so long, so he will probably continue and get no reprecussions. But I hope ur right.
@JamaicanMeCrazy
@JamaicanMeCrazy 7 ай бұрын
@@Grexen-bo6zp if we, the viewers, are fed up how do you think his team mates feel and how do you think his team bosses feel. He's on thin ice right now. I think if it happens even once more he's toast. Honestly I think he's already toast but he'll just be allowed to finish his season
@MrDufDaddy
@MrDufDaddy 8 ай бұрын
Why not just sack him now and give Doohan a 15 race audition? Does anyone really think at this point that Ocon is going to be in an Alpine next season? So since you all said no, then why run the risk of him doing this again and costing the team millions of dollars in destroyed cars? Second question: why would Haas or Williams with their limited resources want to bring in a driver that doesn't cooperate within the team structure? Neither of those teams can afford a selfish (insecure) driver ruining development and cars.
@heavyharris5580
@heavyharris5580 8 ай бұрын
It's a shame too because of Ocon's story. That alone would make him so much more popular, but he just doesnt seem likeable
@thomasvrielink299
@thomasvrielink299 8 ай бұрын
Ironically that story is where his mentality comes from...
@jeffreyhutchins6527
@jeffreyhutchins6527 8 ай бұрын
@@thomasvrielink299 oh yeah poor Ocon had it so rough. His silver spoon was slightly less shiny than the other drivers on the grid.
@antoniohagopian213
@antoniohagopian213 8 ай бұрын
Yeah story of a Algerian narcissistic kid who wants it all for himself.
@MrDufDaddy
@MrDufDaddy 8 ай бұрын
@@jeffreyhutchins6527 Unless mechanics in France get paid significantly more than they do in the States, Ocon's silver spoon was made from tin. His dad owned a garage and they had to sell their home and garage to keep Ocon racing...that's a LONG way off from the Schumacher/Stroll/Mazepin's of the F1 Silver Spoon club
@patrickbateman529
@patrickbateman529 7 ай бұрын
​@@MrDufDaddy That's still millions which is more than what most people will see in their lives. He may be no billionaire but it still costs more than 5 million euros to get there.
@LeeGoGators
@LeeGoGators 8 ай бұрын
A French civil war? I’m shocked
@coyzmann
@coyzmann 8 ай бұрын
The problem is Ocon's attitude, his huge ego prevents him to have any accountability for his mistakes, even if this cost points for the team. He always blames any incidents as external factors and never his, without any accountability, he will never learn or get any better, so I think what we are witnessing right now is a driver that already at his maximum potential. He will never be a champion as he won't get any better.
@MajikPPMan
@MajikPPMan 7 ай бұрын
His ego? 😂 I don't think he has a whole lot to have an ego over lol dude is a waste of a seat I say kick him out after every f1 seat is full and get doohan in and let ocon out of f1 completely
@PhazerSC
@PhazerSC 8 ай бұрын
It's intriguing that the most broken driver lineups always contain Ocon. Remember the Ocon-Perez days? Just get rid of this overly aggressive and mediocre driver once and for all.
@zlm4869
@zlm4869 8 ай бұрын
He’s not mediocre lol, he’s a race winner lol, and you all say Alonso won him the race, yet he had a 4 time would champion in Sebastian Vettel, behind him all race, he doesn’t get enough credit for that
@PhazerSC
@PhazerSC 8 ай бұрын
@@zlm4869 "you all say Alonso won him the race" YES, he did.
@joseagui4924
@joseagui4924 8 ай бұрын
@@zlm4869 Vettel had a mildly competitive car, and was struggling to keep up in the AMR. Ocon isn’t too mediocre, but a huge prick. Selfish, immature, and just an asshole on the track. Alonso won Hungary for him, Hamilton was miles quicker than Ocon and would’ve overtaken him if it wasn’t for Magic. I have to handle it to Ocon though, his speed during some races in 2021 was not bad.
@zlm4869
@zlm4869 8 ай бұрын
@@PhazerSC and what about Ocon holding Vettel behind for 70+ laps, no one gives the credit for that at all, but no typical honestly
@zlm4869
@zlm4869 8 ай бұрын
@sidharthtirkey44 I get that but you’re not understanding what I am saying he was holding a 4 time world champion behind him, making 0 mistakes in 70+ laps, with the pressure on him at all times
@SimRacingVeteran
@SimRacingVeteran 8 ай бұрын
Everyone saw this coming the moment they said they’d be paired together.
@Hecate24
@Hecate24 8 ай бұрын
tbh, all i care about is that Piastri managed to sign with mclaren instead of their team. he dodged a pretty fat bullet
@patrickbateman1660
@patrickbateman1660 7 ай бұрын
Its crazy how hard he drives against his teammates but barely even tries against anyone.
@YUBU8
@YUBU8 7 ай бұрын
They’ve had 3 incidents in 2 years. All of this they can’t work together is a bit of a stretch.
@thesighbored
@thesighbored 8 ай бұрын
Changing teams? That's a 10 seconds penalty for Ocon.
@flamingburitto
@flamingburitto 8 ай бұрын
Ocon has had a huge chip on his shoulder ever since Max was selected ahead of him to drive in F1 even tho he beat Max in F3. Like alonso pointed out, ocon fights harder with his teammates than he does with other drivers. He only cares about beating his teammate to make himself look better, he doesn't care about the team. He has a huge EGO. We get that in racing, incidents happen. What matters is the accountability following those incidents, and ocon has never shown any. Alonso, Perez, Gasly, all three are great drivers who didn't have teammate issues until they raced with ocon. And if that happened with 3 drivers, then the problem is ocon.
@CYMotorsport
@CYMotorsport 8 ай бұрын
This is going to be the case for any driver competing directly with another driver at a high level in the same car when they’ve competed in karts 2:05 We only notice it bc this is the rare time top talent overlaps like this as both are young. Unless you can cite specific information about their “off track” issues, nothing to report there for now then. We saw it at merc with Nico and Lewis too. It’s not a problem for the likes of say George and Lando as they wouldn’t likely be paired but you’re out to lunch if you think it would be copacetic if they were on the same team. It would not.
@haribo836
@haribo836 8 ай бұрын
It's Ocon who is broken and can't be saved. No matter what teammate you give him, he will crash into them again and again. He's been in F1 for a while now and has had this issue every year with every teammate and just doesn't learn from his mistakes (but how could he? He barely ever admits it's his mistake). The only reason he is still on the grid after he was booted from it in '19 is because he's French and a French team was looking for a decent driver. Who else would take a broken team player?
@sapphirekennedy
@sapphirekennedy 7 ай бұрын
Would LOVE to see Alpine reunite Gasly and Tsunouda next year
@richardlehoux
@richardlehoux 8 ай бұрын
Maybe it’s the BWT logo that affects Ocon psychology?
@JaggerDaBombs
@JaggerDaBombs 7 ай бұрын
I can't imagine Oscar with how good he's been with McLaren, being forced to try that tractor of an Alpine car wasting away his true natural born talent fighting to maybe get a point instead of fighting for podiums.
@thegridgab
@thegridgab 8 ай бұрын
Estie Bestie needs a Restie
@MrJordiBaby
@MrJordiBaby 7 ай бұрын
🤣🤣
@durodesduvo8424
@durodesduvo8424 8 ай бұрын
Ocon has a serious immaturity problem. Watch Hungary 2022 when he was so focused on blocking Alonso. This was the year after Alonso‘s defense helped him win a race. When Ocon’s driving gifted Ricciardo a double overtake on the Alpines, it really encapsulates why I despise him. Alonso immediately left for a slower team at the time, I would’ve done the same.
@hersheyyy981
@hersheyyy981 8 ай бұрын
Ocon is a good driver with a shit mentality
@stevenjoseph6048
@stevenjoseph6048 8 ай бұрын
Sums him up perfectly. While I don't hate him as much as everyone does (the hate for Ocon is too much imo) if his mentality was better he could be a good number 2 for top teams
@Joe-wj7ku
@Joe-wj7ku 8 ай бұрын
Sums it up nicely
@BwInNewJersey
@BwInNewJersey 8 ай бұрын
Well said
@MichaelCampbell01
@MichaelCampbell01 8 ай бұрын
He's trying to ride the "oh, look at me, I didn't grow up with a lot of money, I'm just a smiley normal dude" vibe far too far.
@lukeearthcrawler896
@lukeearthcrawler896 8 ай бұрын
Yes, but he's not a great one to get away with it. Senna/Prost was a spicy pairing, but BOTH Alain and Ayrton were greats, so each got away with it and won championships. Ocon is just a very good midfielder that is an absolute cretin when it comes to teamwork.
@baka1984
@baka1984 8 ай бұрын
Hope you are having a good day Edd. You deserve to make it to the official F1 media team! Huge fan of your commentary.
@TyraelHasFallen
@TyraelHasFallen 7 ай бұрын
This aged well
@TheFarleyMowat
@TheFarleyMowat 8 ай бұрын
“Alpine was unaware of this at the time of signing” well then they were the only one we all knew when it was announced where this was going.
@IIINickodemusIII
@IIINickodemusIII 8 ай бұрын
Icon and Stroll should be on the same team, I would enjoy watching that very much
@SA-hr6ho
@SA-hr6ho 7 ай бұрын
no one cares what you enjoy
@hughjainisis1683
@hughjainisis1683 8 ай бұрын
All of Ocon's teammate pairings have been toxic except for maybe Danny Ric, and he is the common denominator
@freyalove3831
@freyalove3831 7 ай бұрын
Daniel Riccardo has mentioned in the interviews, it was not a walk in the park to have Ocon as teammate( Put it mildly). Also remember ocon was hired by Alpine(he didn't have a seat).And Riccardo was ahead of him.
@ChawkoSnap
@ChawkoSnap 8 ай бұрын
Ocon fights with literally every teammate he has.
@xano198103
@xano198103 8 ай бұрын
Is Toto still Ocon's manager? Because this is important
@eoincassin4265
@eoincassin4265 8 ай бұрын
He is and the pathetic little boy still calls himself Merc junior driver despite having ZERO association with Merc beyond Papa Wolff. Ocon is a little coward who doesnt understand what being in a team means
@titancheat
@titancheat 8 ай бұрын
Ocon to williams confirmed 😅
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 8 ай бұрын
Yes, he's still linked to Mercedes yes, though I have no idea why that is still the case after 5 years at Renault/Alpine.
@ericthompson1784
@ericthompson1784 8 ай бұрын
@@titancheatplease no 😂
@RoyMatzem
@RoyMatzem 8 ай бұрын
​@@soundscape26He dont have links with Mercedes. He have link with Toto Wolff. Very important difference
@docmccoy9813
@docmccoy9813 8 ай бұрын
Blame Alpine management. They knew Ocon reputation and they knew his "close friendship with Gasly" so, what did they expect to happen.
@MrNailbrain
@MrNailbrain 7 ай бұрын
Saying there is a problem with the team pairing is a little misleading. There is a problem, with Ocon...
@ryobibattery
@ryobibattery 8 ай бұрын
K-Mag has never done everything wrong
@a1white
@a1white 8 ай бұрын
Ocon will have been told, before the race, do not (unless we tell you do so) attempt to overtake Gasly, this is Monaco and the risk is far too high. Then on lap 1, what does he do? That is why they are furious.
@OzDeaDMeaT
@OzDeaDMeaT 8 ай бұрын
F1 is a team game, Ocon is not a team player, the guy needs to not be part of F1, there are just too many quality drivers that should be given an F1 opportunity.
@GokulRajan-n7c
@GokulRajan-n7c 7 ай бұрын
Piastri and Alonso having a laugh while watching this with a glass of wine 😂😂😂
@Amonicuss
@Amonicuss 8 ай бұрын
Ye there's only 1 word needed to explain why the lineup can't be saved: "Ocon"
@atelier7516
@atelier7516 8 ай бұрын
sacre bleu
@antoniohagopian213
@antoniohagopian213 8 ай бұрын
Ocon=Au con
@naga2015kk
@naga2015kk 7 ай бұрын
I can't stand the way Ocon acted against Alonso, his benefactor
@whassupg89
@whassupg89 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, what did Renault think was going to happen with these two…
@sicmic
@sicmic 7 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis as always Ed.
@GeorgeVazquez
@GeorgeVazquez 8 ай бұрын
I really like Esteban's story and would root for him. But he's just not doing himself any favors with his clashes with teammates. Even without Kimi Antonelli in the picture. Toto would not put Ocon with George and potentially have his cars crashing into each other again.
@gdoumit
@gdoumit 8 ай бұрын
Honestly any story is meaningless when you behave like Ocon does. His story would have been admirable to get to this point if he wasn't so insufferable and selfish. All drivers need to be selfish to some degree, but Ocon takes it to a toxic level. He will never get a top drive with his mentality and lack of maturity.
@ankitgondalia
@ankitgondalia 8 ай бұрын
The problem with Ocon is he goes after his teammates more than his rivals.
@slavan5466
@slavan5466 7 ай бұрын
Is it coincidence that Ocon had problems with all his teammates?
@tomsonfire3740
@tomsonfire3740 8 ай бұрын
Rumor has it, Ocon even gets in to fights with his mirror
@takumifujiwara13954
@takumifujiwara13954 8 ай бұрын
Opposite of Chuck Norris. 🤣
@freyalove3831
@freyalove3831 7 ай бұрын
I chuckled hard.😂😂😂
@Hardcore6166
@Hardcore6166 8 ай бұрын
You can see by the way Ocon looks, that he was a type of guy in school that would always ask for help, but that he would also cover his test with his hand, so that you can not copy it
@jeffa251
@jeffa251 7 ай бұрын
Who's here after they dropped Ocon?
@MasterTech750
@MasterTech750 8 ай бұрын
I like how the only two pass attempts for the entire race are scrutinized
@antoniohagopian213
@antoniohagopian213 8 ай бұрын
Ocon = Au con Translate the second part from french and you'll know all you need.
@IZn0g0uDatAll
@IZn0g0uDatAll 7 ай бұрын
The hate towards ocon makes me sad. He is one of the only driver who wasn’t born with a silver spoon in his mouth and in an ocean of priviledge. He got where he is through sheet talent, perseverance and hard work, with no financial backing. His competitiveness gets over the top often, but he is a much more likable guy than many in the grid.
@TerribleFire
@TerribleFire 8 ай бұрын
Ocon needs to go. He has no business in F1 and never has.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 8 ай бұрын
Ocon is fast though...
@1ena585
@1ena585 8 ай бұрын
He had one of the best junior career and, while always driving for mid-tier teams, has a win and multiple podiums. Like and dislike whoever you want but be objective about it.
@jeffreyhutchins6527
@jeffreyhutchins6527 8 ай бұрын
@@1ena585 So what. He was gifted that win, lets talk about objective.
@Infinix-i2h
@Infinix-i2h 8 ай бұрын
Sure bruhh😂😂😂. Sargent, zhou, even bottas and Perez nowadays get a seat now and ocon dosent?. Too much hate it’s just a crash and only happens like once a year with him
@michaels7258
@michaels7258 7 ай бұрын
He can drive
@scottyskydog
@scottyskydog 7 ай бұрын
Ocon is a liability! Definitely not a team player proven on numerous occasions in the past with previous drivers! He doesn’t even make a believable apology! He’s pathetic!
@ayayoutuber
@ayayoutuber 8 ай бұрын
ocon can not be pair with anyone. so he better go race somewhere else outside F1. He would just cost Hass more damage that Hass cannot afford.
@kriss_gu_13
@kriss_gu_13 7 ай бұрын
Well it's official, after this season Ocon will no longer drive for Alpine
@JA-yn9zc
@JA-yn9zc 8 ай бұрын
ocon has serial killer vibes
@rob1129
@rob1129 8 ай бұрын
From the minute they signed Gasly this was inevitable, regardless of what team they drive for having two French drivers is asking for chaos !
@botortamas
@botortamas 8 ай бұрын
Ocon is the most hate-able driver on the grid. Everything from giving no respect to Alonso to bumping teammates into the wall to taking out Max in Brazil. Ditch this selfish prick already.
@8020drummer
@8020drummer 8 ай бұрын
5:15 - exactly what danny ric needs to do if it's not too late
@dinoferreira7950
@dinoferreira7950 8 ай бұрын
So when Pierre cuts off Ocon in Australia the consensus is that Ocon should had backed off, but when Ocon cuts off Pierre, the consensus is that Ocon was in the wrong? Make it make sense guys. You’re only as good as your last race, and Pierre is eating dirt right now. We all did the same thing to Ricardo when he came back with high hopes only to be getting his ass handed to him my Tsunoda. We wouldn’t say that Tsunoda is the problem just because Ricardo has a history of success, so I’m Not sure why this is being spun to make Ocon look like the driver that needs to go.
@enigmatic13465
@enigmatic13465 8 ай бұрын
Well if you’re only as good as your last race. Ocon DNFed after a dumb move on a teammate that didn’t need to happen on Lap 1 and Gasly scored points after a potentially getting car damage
@recordedanemone6399
@recordedanemone6399 7 ай бұрын
Kmag be the loyal one and ocon be the silly one who can't obey shit. At least when kmag crashes, he does it for the team, unlike ocon
@pffyespff
@pffyespff 8 ай бұрын
I don't think you can really claim that during H2/23 Gasly was better, like you do at ca 5 min. mark. Your own graphics shows that when both managed to finish, Ocon had usually better position. Ability to finish at all is another kettle of fish entirely, tho.
@Jamesthomas-cj4eu
@Jamesthomas-cj4eu 8 ай бұрын
The way I see it, Ocon is stuck in a nasty feedback loop, the world is against me so I am against it: something happens to prove it to him and he gets worse from it, ie: Max getting a seat before him, lance getting his seat, getting overlooked for Bottas and so on. If he can't get out of this tunnel vision mind set, he's not long for f1.
@smythie27
@smythie27 8 ай бұрын
As an Australian, it would be awesome to see 3 Aussies starting on the grid, even if it is just for one race
@michaelcobbin
@michaelcobbin 8 ай бұрын
I’m also an Australian, how about 3 Aussies and 1 New Zealander on the 2025 F1 grid?
@budgie1323
@budgie1323 8 ай бұрын
@@michaelcobbinas another Aussie, this is the stuff my dreams are made of. 3 Australians and our kiwi brother Liam Lawson flying around the track!
@smythie27
@smythie27 7 ай бұрын
@@budgie1323 @michaelcobbin Not sure that would happen, though it would awesome. I doubt Yuki will be kicked out of RB, not with the way he is driving. Though he may need to tapper his attitude
@smythie27
@smythie27 7 ай бұрын
Alpine must have seen my post🤣🤣
@michaelcobbin
@michaelcobbin 7 ай бұрын
@@smythie27 Alpine is definitely giving Jack Doohan as much time as possible in the F1 car. How many FP1 sessions will Ocon be giving up to Doohan for the rest of the season? Possibly every non-sprint GP for the remainder of the year.
@cian69
@cian69 8 ай бұрын
Ocon is incredibly talented but has a massive chip on his shoulder. Like mate we get you didn’t have it easy coming up but sometimes he appears almost entitled like feels he deserves it more than others because of his background which is ridiculous. He is unfortunately not a very nice person seemingly who thinks only about himself.
@mjolnir1981
@mjolnir1981 8 ай бұрын
P45 for both along with Lance, Kmag, Zhou, Bottas, Logan, and DR. The grid needs some talent
@chicobicalho5621
@chicobicalho5621 8 ай бұрын
There is something about Ocon picking on his own team-mates that should be examined by a psychiatrist. I mean, it is a recurring issue, so medical attention is advisable.
@amuddymoose
@amuddymoose 7 ай бұрын
It’s called narcissism
@xyz1415
@xyz1415 8 ай бұрын
Ocon and Verstappen will be a nice pairing
@LathropLdST
@LathropLdST 8 ай бұрын
Have you forgotten that the Dutch pushed the French in at least one occasion?
@ishqiahmed4315
@ishqiahmed4315 8 ай бұрын
well ofc, verstappen will be too far ahead for ocon to pull his usual shenanigans
@somapapp2944
@somapapp2944 8 ай бұрын
@@LathropLdST I think they were being sarcastic. And exactly because they remember that
@xyz1415
@xyz1415 8 ай бұрын
@@ishqiahmed4315 Not unless Esteban qualifies P2😁
@justinpharand8454
@justinpharand8454 8 ай бұрын
Ocon is the problem. His only F1 race win is due to his (then) teammate Alonso in Hungary and yet Ocon regularly trashes Alonso publicly.
@shivamhurkat2765
@shivamhurkat2765 8 ай бұрын
Ocon and russell will make interesting teammates... They will always endup blaming each other 😂😂
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