Why Falcon 9 Was Grounded, But Not Starliner | We Asked The FAA

It's a complex yet crucial topic: why hasn’t the FAA grounded Starliner despite its multiple thruster issues? We sit down with the FAA to understand the process behind flight anomalies, spacecraft vs. rocket investigations, and whether Starliner’s issues could trigger a grounding. Plus, we explore how FAA regulations differ for Falcon 9 and Starliner, and what it all means for future space missions.
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[@lowstrife]

This is actually really great to see - the FAA engaging in active outreach from senior members of the relevant organizations. This is way better than no statements, no public messages, no nothing. Thanks for taking the time to do this Mr. Murray. I think it's unfortunate that things have escalated to be where we've come to this, regardless who is ultimately at fault here. Nobody wins.

[@Barthhhelona]

What escalated? That we've come to what? FAA simply agreed to an interview about their role in commercial spaceflight.

[@officialwildcardadventures]

If it can't fly....it is by definition grounded.

[@mattfarrar5472]

Excellent breakdown - Makes you question why NASA isn't taking over the licensing for Starship.

[@tyler60904]

Especially when they are helping fund its development for their moon missions. Why is starship immediately under the FAA?

[@ryelor123]

Its the FAA's job to deal with stuff that's in the sky. They know where everything is and they're responsible for keeping account of everything. If there are casualties occur, they're responsible for changing the regulations to make sure that doesn't happen again. They deal with all the small complicated things related to design and operations because that's what that organization is specialized in. NASA's job is to do research and figure out new things. They don't know what designs are safe and what aren't because that's not their specialization. They may be pretty well at figuring out how to make a new camera for a spacecraft but they don't know the best gasket material for rocket engines. In the end, these problems will result in a new organization coming into being that performs the role of the FAA but only for spacecrafts. The FAA is too busy dealing with civilian aviation where R&D isn't as critical since aircrafts are a very matured technology. tl;dr NASA focuses on research instead of safety.

[@takanara7]

Why would they? Space-X already has a license to LAUCH starship, they just don't have a landing license, and landing the booster isn't technically necessary for HLS. Also a 60 day delay isn't exactly a big deal. If the FAA were really holding things up NASA could take over, but keep in mind technically the Vice President is in charge of NASA, and the director of NASA is a political appointment as well (In this case a former democratic senator) so it's not like there would be some huge political incentive for them to help out Elon at this point. The FAA is probably going to be less partisan then NASA, ultimately.

[@jordanhenshaw]

Completely skipped over the ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. How come FAA gets to throw a turd sandwich on Starship when Starship is still experimental, but Starliner gets a free pass because it's experimental?

[@ale131296]

It's in the video... different licensing... different agencies handling it. Simple as that.

[@danharold3087]

@@ale131296 But why are there different agencies handling it. Starship is being developed at least in part for NASA. It is an experimental, problems are expected.

[@NelsonsWings]

LOL look at the comment I just posted, and I posted it before I read yours! Same metaphor, elephant in the room!

[@NelsonsWings]

​@@ale131296No it was not addressed. The FAA is holding up Starship. He interviewed the executive director of the FAA office in charge of those things. But he didn't ask any questions about Starship!

[@ale131296]

@@danharold3087 Well for starters Starship did not begin its development having a NASA contract. Apart from that, the contracting structure for the Human Landing System only considers the actual HLS missions as NASA-related while the others are just building up development data at SpaceX's own dime. Given that, it is the FAA the one that licenses Starship flights. That being said, trust me when I say you really don't want NASA to regulate Starship flights, they'd be a lot deeper into its development than the FAA. Like a whole lot more.

[@tomsheridan989]

Last week's Flame Trench didn't hold back on placing the blame for the delays on SpaceX. In light of the information that SpaceX put out today I wonder if the opinions will change?

[@carlossantiago7852]

Here is the issue with FAA and it double standards. When the first Boeing 737 max crashed in 2018, killing hundreds of people, they didn't grounded the entire Boeing fleet because they managed as an isolated case, which doesn't mean the entrie fleet have same issue. Similarly, SpaceX had a fleet of Falcon 9, so why were they so quick on grounding their entire fleet and didn't managed it as an isolated issue and let them continue launching, more over when there was no impact any human life? The FAA is an extension of the big companies with deep tights on the government.

[@scourge3162]

waitaminute. you interviewed the FAA and this is what you asked???

[@ExtremeSquared]

NSF really can't be too hard on federal officials and expect further cooperation. They'll just go to friendlier interviewers. We're in an era where the separation between agency mission and politics has been mostly crushed.

[@iamaduckquack]

​​It's all about protecting fragile egos. They should be expected to answer hard questions. How else can these political agencies be held accountable if we have to protect their feelings? @@ExtremeSquared

[@robnobert]

@@ExtremeSquared yup -- and it's mostly because of people like you with that attitude that are willing to excuse themselves for being poor journalists "because nobody would talk to me" -- eventually that's what everyone is doing because nobody will stand up, when the small man becomes as corrupt as the big man just to make buck -- it's everyone's fault. Not just the politicians.

[@ExtremeSquared]

@@iamaduckquack By all means, shout it from your soapbox. I just don't think NSF is really obligated to be part of the fight against voter apathy that has caused a decades-long downwards trend in government accountability.

[@Veptis]

We done have a fleet of Falcon 9 tho... So grounded seems accurate

[@AmbientMorality]

I think the general distinction is that airplanes are manufactured by one company and operated by many others. Rockets are always a single operator who is fully responsible for the safety of the rocket.

[@smokerx893]

most of the questions saw was aimed at why the faa decided to impose fines on spacex and yet we haven't seen any fines on boeing for sending up an unsafe vehicle that stranded those to up on the iss. honestly this feels like an attempt to address a concern without actually addressing the concern of apparent favoritism/corruption. or as elon put it "lawfare" is this just a damage control public relations bit?

[@eldarshamukhamedov4521]

> why the faa decided to impose fines on spacex and yet we haven't seen any fines on boeing for sending up an unsafe vehicle Did you watch the video? FAA is responsible for Starship and (most) Falcon 9 certification, while NASA is still responsible for Starliner. FAA couldn't fine Boeing even if it wanted to. Will NASA fine Boeing? It's too early to tell. They might fine them, or they might require an additional test flight (which will be very expensive for Boeing), or they might cancel the Starliner contract altogether (which would basically be the end of Boeing's space division).

[@Barthhhelona]

Did you not listen to the video??? They literally explained FAA is not responsible for the Star liner missions just like they weren't responsible for public safety on the SpaceX Crew demo missions. Yikes.

[@ryanbetesh9640]

Seems like FAA is paying off all of the big space channels this week. Weird.

[@NelsonsWings]

This was an informative video BUT why didn't you address the elephant in the room? The FAA "grounding" of Starship Flight 5? I'm sure you've read the SpaceX pressers on that cluster foxtrot! The FAA needs to explain what's going on! A lot of those fines and decisions don't make sense.

[@SayWhut276]

It has been explained, SpaceX has a licence to fly right now under the plan it flew flight four under. SpaceX changed the plan to include a catch attempt and that has caused the delays.

[@takanara7]

The FAA hasn't "grounded" Starship, they still have a license to launch, they just are taking their time with licensing the LANDING of the booster back on the pad. If the booster's flight path deviated by a few miles it could kill thousands of people. The idea that there shouldn't be any government oversight into something that is totally delusional.

[@qwerty112311]

@@SayWhut276lmao no. The actual delay is because they want to jettison the hot stage ring at a different time, which obviously could be devastating to the marine environment because… ELON BAD MAN REEEEEEEE

[@Barthhhelona]

​@@qwerty112311that's a childish take.

[@victorforzani3433]

the problem is that the FAA is Bias, but that question was not given or ask.

[@Barthhhelona]

Assumption and accusation. Provide proof.

[@Ghost_FEU]

I would say, spacex has a significant fleet of falcon nines, and are going to be building a significant fleet of starships

[@pfcrow]

So SpaceX needs to put something for Space Force on a Starship test flight so they don't need an FAA license.

[@ale131296]

Nah it doesn't work that way

[@AlexSchendel]

This was certainly a well-researched video and it's nice to see that you were able to talk with the FAA, but for a video titled "We Asked the FAA", over 90% of it did not include the FAA which was a bit strange.

[@user-fr3hy9uh6y]

Thanks! This clearly explains why the FAA did not require an investigation when Dragon blew up after the demo 1 mission. Thanks!!

[@thirteenthandy]

We don't have fleets of rockets? What year is the FAA in?

[@johnhanson6039]

@NasaSpaceflight, FAA not in control of NASA flights, NASA is. It matters who is the operating party

[@ale131296]

Keep watching ;)

[@mdawgwhite]

This is the interview that was actually presented? Hmm, is anyone really wondering who helped put this together? This is a joke, and I have lost respect from this channel. This isn't a question and answer interview. This is put together and edited in favor of the govt FAA

[@dan72534]

Why can't NASA act as the operational oversight for Starship? This would cut out the FAA and maybe shorten the downtime between test flights. After all, future NASA Artimes missions will be supported by Starship.

[@takanara7]

If you had watched the video, you would know the answer to that - they can. The FAA only oversees a launch if NASA or the DOD doesn't want to do it. So basically it's NASA's choice.

[@steveaustin2686]

Because SpaceX started Starship development and flights BEFORE they got the HLS Option A contract? NASA noted in the Apr 2021 HLS Option A Source Selection Statement that HLS Starship and commercial uses of Starship could not be separated, as they both share soo much of the Starship technology.

[@obviouslytom]

I have no doubt that Boeing paid them off to allow them to do whatever they want. Starship is "grounded" almost indefinitely by the FAA because of a 60 day period where people can ask questions or concerns, and every time they do, the 60 day period resets. The FAA doesn't like SpaceX

[@takanara7]

60 days isn't "indefinite" and spaceX can launch whenever they want, they just can't return to the pad. Having a giant metal skyscraper falling from the sky in the general direction of a populated city at super-sonic speeds is obviously something the FAA is going to want to look into thoroughly before granting a license. The idea space-X should just be allowed to do it without any oversight is totally delusional.

[@eazybee_X]

this video has a very interesting point of view... nice work!

[@Ormusn2o]

I don't rly want to teach you guys journalism, but is is generally good thing to get both sides of the story during a report. I would be cool to see comments from Boeing and SpaceX when you are making a piece about comparing SpaceX and Boeing crafts, especially that even people in the comments can provide better pushback than what you have here. Some of the claims would look completely different here if there was a comment from SpaceX, like about Starship launches being experimental launches for the HLS, including milestones being completed during those launches. So argument about FAA not regulating government launches is not valid here.

[@esvpizcadeamor4465]

The engineering on Falcon9 and Starship is beyond FAA. It's delayed because FAA was just given the new textbooks "Manual of Engineering of Technology Beyond Human Understanding". Even ULA CEO called Raptor3 as "Partially assembled" engine!". What's the FAA going to do in the future with Ant-Gravity Spaceships. Hard to test and verify something you don't even understand.

[@seekerstan]

SpaceX has a fleet of Falcon 9s and there is a growing fleet of Starships sitting in Boca Chika waiting for launch licenses.

[@MrDrBatmanlive]

Either that was a heavily redacted/ censured interview, or that was a wasted opportunity. Great break down and great info but I wanted more.

[@Koolteer]

It's not grounded, but it isn't allowed to launch. FAA is scared shitless by the word 'grounded'. Why?

[@lamontterry2590]

so if the FAA doesn't have any federal association, like directly being a part of the federal government, then why is it called a federal department, something's wrong there, and how does the FAA get its authority to operate and do we need the FAA for rockets and capsules and why do they have a beef with SPACE X seems to me somebody's jealous of SPACE X just wondering 😂

[@jasongoodacre]

The FAA should have nothing to do with space flight. Their bias is evident when they always give a pass to Boeing. And let's not talk about their bad decisions in the past regarding dangerous aircraft.

[@jackdbur]

They constantly give out passes to Boeing to fly unsafe aircraft from Georgia to Seattle! 😮 Nothing comes out of Boeings Georgia plant in a fit to be delivered state.

[@rggeiger1]

so NASA takes responsibility for uncrewed development launches for a new launch system...like super heavy and starship? why is the FAA involved with it? why doesn't NASA or DOD take the reins and we get this system moving?

[@AmbientMorality]

I think it's "when it's being developed for a NASA contract with high NASA oversight", e.g. the Commercial Crew program. The Starship HLS program is set up very differently, so I don't think NASA has the insight they'd need to assess safety.

[@StarshipToMars]

I haven't been wondering why Starliner hasn't been "grounded" (for want of a better word) by the FAA, but I am now wondering how your explanations to those who were apply to Starship, which is still under development not only for commercial operations, but also for NASA for the HLS as part of the Artemis program. Why is the FAA even responsible for Starship launches at this time, given that it is as yet uncertified for commercial operations?

[@takanara7]

The FAA regulates all flight in the US, and that includes rocket launches, while they're in the atmosphere. Star LINER is just a payload when it's on a rocket, it's not on it's own until it's in space, which the FAA isn't involved with. So the FAA only regulates the rocket, not the capsule.

[@Spacewatcher1]

Why is Starship not under NASA since its first customer is NASA? Isn’t that similar to Dragon?

[@carbonstar9091]

Yeah that wasn't really explained clearly. Is Starship a program under NASA like Starliner/Dragon? Why is it regulated by the FAA instead of NASA/DoD if it's not licensed yet?

[@paulharrison8475]

How many ex-Boeing employees work for the FAA?

[@417keith]

Other way around

[@stevecam724]

Flight? Do rockets fly? Grounded because they can leave the ground?

[@TheSnoopall]

What a load of bollocks, is this the best they can explain grounded does not mean grounded, they just do not like Elon lets hope Elon is in a position to recommend to sack many of them soon.

[@shuriken4852]

Small correction, the launch cadence... of SpaceX... went into the stratosphere. 😉

[@iamaduckquack]

Classic case of rules for thee but not for mee The fact they don't they don't recognise Falcon as a fleet shows how out of touch they are. Starship is doomed due to uneducated political agencies.

[@tomich20]

How come starship is not under NASA instead of the FAA in this development period?

[@ale131296]

You really don't want NASA to license Starship launches, trust me. It's way worse

[@wesley00042]

Because NASA did not commission or sponsor it. While NASA is interested in it as a possible launch customer, SpaceX started development on its own as a commercial enterprise.

[@DALKINION]

FAA...., hey we haven't licensed your starliner.. Boeing.....,So we're good to go into space??... FAA..., Yeah, why the hell not!,........... Godspeed ,!! Boeing,....WERE GOING TO NEED it !!!

[@wesley00042]

You should consider watching the video.

[@ricinro]

Space launches tend to shut down activity near launch site and thousands of miles downrange for sea and air traffic. Seems like there are also international warnings. A few launches here and there but now the volume of launches is starting to go exponential to where the world may need to consolidate these areas into near permanent keep out areas including down range and landing sites.

[@jimgold6004]

OK if what your saying is that in development for a NASA mission.... NASA is responsible. If that is the case then why isn,t Star Ship covered ?????

[@gavinregier6177]

Should send this video to Elon, he’s been going on about this exact thing

[@david1514]

Will Starship HLS be licensed under NASA or the FAA?

[@nigelheffernan3857]

It's called BRIBERY

[@petergregorypottery5476]

Brilliant, thanks for investigating this and explaining it. Much appreciated :-)

[@MarsOzzie]

Looks like nasa needs to help more override FAA

[@ag1382]

Musk should put he name of one of his other companies on his rockets. Let’ try BOARING.

[@esvpizcadeamor4465]

That's hilarious... way to go.

[@danharold3087]

Made me smile.

[@rodmills4071]

He stuck his head above the parapart and didn't back the current administration....blind Freddy can see this.

[@servant74]

Thanks for getting this information. It will quell some of my animosity towards the FAA over what seems to be arbitrary decisions.

[@GrigoriZhukov]

Heck, I actively strive to think nicely about the FAA that is understaffed underfunded and under loved. There are several other 3 letter agencies that have the same issue. And one 4 letter one that I love grump about that I will not even name. They all also should not have political appointees running them. All should have a similar setup to (tries not to spit, because congress) the FBI. Which is an arbitrary mess.

[@servant74]

​@@GrigoriZhukovunderstood. We as a nation have become much more intolerant, sadly I have too, but like I pray for our nation, I am trying to change.

[@spaulagain]

Everything in this video smellls like... BUREAUCRACY

[@rupertcraythorn7753]

Why doesn't NASA step in to help with starship so they can get moving with the testing.😮

[@thomashayden804]

They could in theory do that, but I'm sure it would end up taking way longer cause NASA would have to get the same sort of assurances the FAA is looking for, but they'd be starting from scratch. This would also require NASA having a reason to take the responsibility on themselves, which they don't really have. None of these flights are for NASA, NASA will just be a customer at some point down the line

[@steveaustin2686]

Because SpaceX started Starship development and flights BEFORE they got the HLS Option A contract. NASA noted in the Apr 2021 HLS Option A Source Selection Statement that HLS Starship and commercial uses of Starship could not be separated, as they both share soo much of the Starship technology. NASA IS a part of Starship testing already.

[@CantSeeMe-q4i]

Great Video Das! Thank you very much! I have been wondering if you think a falcon 9 scale rocket will ever be produced with the new raptor 3 engines? I wonder what sort of performance upgrade that would be for that scale? NSF for the win!

[@jackdbur]

Hand all rocket launches over to Space Force so the FFA can get its shit together on passenger aircraft. They can't get even that done well so overlording 2 industries is ridiculous! 😊

[@chrisp7652]

Very informative BUT…what about politics? You would be hard pressed to convince anybody the FAA is not politically motivated to stall StarBase.

[@thomashayden804]

They're following the same regulations they require for anyone looking for a new launch license. Nothing they've done so far indicates a political bias (plus, if politics were to get involved they'd surely want to speed it up and claim credit for it, right?)

[@JBark82]

Another great Dasplainer

[@claytonroyes8141]

This was great!

[@carbonstar9091]

Starliner is not actually trying to fly again soon is it? You don't need to stop something that has no planned launches.

[@mdawgwhite]

What happens if the faa has regulated and prevented everyone from actually saving or helping astronauts in space? .. it's getting out of hand

[@takanara7]

There are no plans to try to rescue astronauts if anything goes wrong. If someone does come up with some rescue mission the FAA can probably authorize something quickly in that situation.

[@rickmunn7356]

Extremely Chrystal clear. Thanks for doing the research. I’m sure lots of people have been wondering why no investigation. I learned something today, thank you. Keep up the good work.

[@iamaduckquack]

Rules for thee but not for mee

[@MarsOzzie]

Why starship which is Artemis should be under NASA

[@basbekjenl]

That was pretty interesting and informative regarding protocols and responsibility. But it does make me wonder, if the FAA deals with the commercial, NASA approved, side of things and NASA can help with the early development phase, why hasn't NASA been the one to licence Starship? Starship is still experimental, still going through development, it's expected to perform for NASA's Artemis program. And it is one of the critical path elements for Artemis 3. I understand that NASA wants to just be the customer here and I see no reason why they couldn't just be the customer by then but until then their licence could help SpaceX develop Starship faster. Which seems like it is a concern for NASA. I'm just asking because I don't know, I'm not poking fun, pointing fingers or hide any secret meaning behind the question. I really am just curious after what I learned from the video.

[@MarsOzzie]

Maybe space force needs to take over. Or starship should be classified as military so that they can launch uninhibited

[@johnhanson6039]

You got there to the difference

[@ImNotOld_ImVintage]

The FAA doesn't actually ensure flight safety. They are a regulatory agency in place to hold others responsible for safety.

[@Fake_Blood]

So Nasa could theoretically provide a licence to launch Starship?

[@takanara7]

FAA covers the stuff in the air, NASA covers stuff in space. Since rockets are in the air in the first part of the flight the FAA covers that, but Starliner rides on another rocket out of the atmosphere.

[@thomashayden804]

I think so, yeah. They'd need a reason to do so though which they don't really have since they'll just be a customer at some point down the line. And if they wanted to speed up licensing it likely wouldn't help either since NASA would be starting from scratch and needing most of the same assurances the FAA needs

[@patrickdurham8393]

Move starship to Mexico and be done with the FAA

[@ale131296]

SpaceX would still have to follow FAA regulation, they're an American company. Rocket Lab's launches from New Zealand are regulated by the FAA (in fact you can see in that list Electron launches being licensed by the FAA)

[@rodrigoandrade5601]

you interviewed the FAA and this is what you asked? come on man

[@steveaustin2686]

The video is titled Why Falcon 9 Was Grounded, But Not Starliner, so that would be why Starship wasn't mentioned.

[@interferon4800]

There's the post-hoc rationalization. Then there's the real reason that everyone knows by now.

[@sethsovak5757]

Hello Das, writing you to ask a question about rocket launch safety. And btw, this particular video was the first of yours which I have seen....so good on ya mate, I enjoyed your video and the way you present it. (content on KZbin which I no longer care much for are by WAI (what an annoying presenter Felix is )and Marcus House. Those two are just bad content creators, mostly due to their seeming desire to be Musk's water boys. Is there anything they won't do to promote "The Great Elon"? (And I admit, he's great in some ways, but he's not the all might (as in wizard of OZ, not in the G_d kind of way). SO I digress. I liked your video...and I wanted to reach out since you say you read all of the comments. Maybe you can answer my concerns about rocketry and safety??? Here we go, and please think of this major concern of mine from an "I live on the planet" and share it with so 7 odd billion neighbors perspective. (not from a concern with those who ride in rockets or work at launch pads perspective). You spoke about launch cadence and I think today's current rate of launches is still a drop in the bucket of what is to come in the next few years. Especially since so many wich to develop orbiting wifi systems. What I ask then is just how safe is all of it going to be? Not from an ...oh no a launch failed again view point....But, from an oh no...there goes another rocket, burning fuel and releasing gas, sometimes exhaust too (I get that methane is cleaner than other gases) and simply just burning its way through our atmosphere. Now, I'm a simple guy....not anyone in any type of science field or study...yet I still and have for decades wondered...does launching a rocket damage our air and or atmosphere? if a small can of hair spray causes issues for the ozone...what does millions of tons of rocket fuel do to it? Then I also wonder about spacex using water in the hundreds of thousands of gallons per launch deluge systems. Oh and best I not forget...these re-usable stages that come back to earth and land...they are doing more burns again to control their landings....so there we go....more burning....and What, dare I ask, is the cumulative effect of all of it going to be for us....the 7 billion plus trying to eek out our living here on our meager little planet (going to be like)??? yours truly....a concerned planetary dweller

[@dr4d1s]

I miss the days when I could scroll through the comments and learn something new or have a good, reasonable chat with someone who has a different opinion/line of thinking. You think I would know better at this point but here I am, disappointed, yet again. Edit - Apparently Das agrees with me.

[@e7ats]

Very well explained! Great job.

[@MargoMcKenna-ht2ro]

Thank you for the clarity

[@marcomix17]

Vamos que vamos 🧡🚀

[@bcubed72]

TL;DR: Because mean tweets.

[@1966jcar]

starliner looks like 40 year old junk

[@EmsXGuitar]

Get on with it!

[@woodentuliphoek]

DAS, thanks for that, and the subtle details. Well Done!!

[@gamemeh]

Great video, informative and easy to understand... Can we have a video about Starship and the FAA..?

[@kevinestep5078]

This has been a phenomenal video. Well done.

[@maxivy]

WAA - Woke Aviation Administration

[@LG-ct8tw]

Very informative, great presentation. nice investigative work. Thanks Das and team.

[@therealcyber5]

interesting

[@s4-bf6vp]

Premiers are always interesting x)

[@trentwarner4887]

Great presentation.

[@OraC6666]

I hate bullsh*t semantics wordplay.

[@jasoncasey3005]

Good stuff

[@DanaOredson]

Very informative!

[@genemetz1945]

Clear as Mud!

[@danharold3087]

My feeling exactly.

[@varietyegg]

Exactly

[@moneymachine6836]

Hmmm, so maybe I need to watch again, but why can't starship be managed by NASA since it's experimental. I gotta read all the documents and watch this video again before I make an opinion. Brb

[@moneymachine6836]

Ngl I love the space beef rn. Good to have drama once and a while.

[@AmbientMorality]

The Starship test program is being primarily led and developed by SpaceX, unlike the Crew Dragon program where NASA and SpaceX set up clear milestones, certification mission plans, etc together. I don't think NASA is in a position to do similar for Starship unless they drastically changed how the Starship program happened (which would likely slow the pace to a similar degree).

[@moneymachine6836]

@@AmbientMorality I meant Nasa overseeing the launch approval

[@moneymachine6836]

@@AmbientMorality but I get what ur saying tho

[@AmbientMorality]

@@moneymachine6836 Yes. The times NASA handles launch safety are when they have a lot of insight into the test program (like Commercial Crew). I don't think they have that with Starship so they cannot handle safety in the same way.

[@IsabellaIsabella-mc1tx]

Thanks for interesting information. NSF team very great. ❤❤❤

[@JeffHoneyager]

More regulation = less innovation

[@steveaustin2686]

🙄So throw out vehicle regulations that make them safe. Throw out food regulations that make food safe. Throw out building construction regulations that make them safe. Sorry, some regulations ARE needed.

[@brads2041]

Nice job

[@MarsOzzie]

???????

[@AvgRichard]

Am I on the right channel?

[@craigdellapenna7103]

Sniff around for Bezos scat, it's pretty smelly...

[@EvM411]

We are humans ..not all are brainwashed or miserable.. if polite , answers will be available...good job @NSF

[@andyrechenberg]

Great explanation and thanks for a balanced response. Cheers 🚀

[@daleytab8766]

Very interesting dialog

[@sylvainrobillard]

Excellent FAA move

[@KrisTC]

Very interesting