Why Final Fantasy 5 Is The Best One (kinda)

Not once do I make a joke about the name 'Butz'. Not sure if that's a success or a failure.
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[@CodexEntry]

Hey ya'll, thanks for watching, hope you enjoyed! Just ever so slightly late on this cause of mental health stuff and FF7R, but really happy with how it turned out. Hope it got you to laugh at least once. If you enjoyed this, it'd mean a lot if you considered helping me out over on Patreon. Just a dollar or two can go a long way to helping keep things rolling and enabling me to do stupid shit like set ice cream on fire. www.patreon.com/codexentry

[@eriochromeblackt3021]

Are you going to review FF7R? Nice vid mate!

[@TheyCallMeBizTCMB]

This is a perfect review. Loved it. Thank you

[@jaykknight2248]

I definitely laughed when you were talking about the fun jobs can be. Though in defense of geomancer....poison bog! Quicksand! Air blades! 🤭

[@Ninjacat25]

Mental health stuff? Are you doing alright mentally now?

[@jordanresin9226]

As a fellow vanilla ice cream lover, I can certainly attest to the value of sincerity. Final Fantasy V is an excellent example (and an especially interesting case considering what its franchise would become), though the series most emblematic of this kind of story and its value, I think, might be Dragon Quest. The worlds it presents are all but void of cynicism, its heroes unambiguously virtuous and its villains the very embodiments of evil, and the way it consistently presents and plays with this traditional approach lends the series a sort of warmth, but also a life-affirming conviction. For over thirty years, through thick and thin, while other (also incredible) series have questioned their identities and experimented with new philosophies, Dragon Quest hasn't wavered in its confidence that that there's a tangible goodness in the world that we can believe in, and (at the risk of sounding like an advertisement) I think there's something special about that.

[@salmonn9222]

This man speaks the truth. But I don't really love ice cream, so we're doing cheese pizza instead.

[@sk45293]

Dragon Quest!!

[@migomezch]

That sounds absolutely fantastic and like something I desperately need. Which one would you recommend for someone who's never played a DQ and doesn't have enough free time to play more than one?

[@jordanresin9226]

@@migomezch Dragon Quest XI is definitely the most beginner-friendly of the bunch, with a wealth of convenience features that make it easy to pick up and play, and a fantastic game on top of that. If you've got a Switch, that's the version to get. If not, you can find it on Steam and/or PS4. If you want the perspective of someone who's been playing the series for over thirty years, I'd recommend this fantastic spoiler-free review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/apq3k4h9ftmIZtU. It's on the longer side, but I think it's a great way to find out whether Dragon Quest is for you.

[@guysmiley4830]

Kind of like an old Bonanza rerun. Little joe has shot and killed more men than any mass murderer in history yet it was a justified killing every time.

[@Ragitsu]

You've managed to hone in on just why I hold Final Fantasy V close to my heart. Compared to so many modern day roleplaying games, FFV is straightforward and unapologetic...but it _isn't_ arrogant nor does it exaggerate the way a parody would. FFV is akin to Superman at his best; both are inspirational and both don't require window dressing to get their message across. Also, I rather enjoy this game's overall aesthetic.

[@Ragitsu]

@Jasper Jaguar Thanks a bunch. Yeah, I thought the comparison was apt.

[@rubemevangelista3868]

FF5 still looks STUNNING! It's amazing!

[@Ragitsu]

@@rubemevangelista3868 That's the strength of two-dimensional graphics.

[@rubemevangelista3868]

@@Ragitsu I'm a sucker for 2D and pixels and I don't think that's ever gonna change

[@baldesion]

Final Fantasy V is my favorite Final Fantasy, tied with VIII. I found this video because a friend of mine linked it after I got made reading about old retrospective reviews of V by GameSpot, where they said the characters are "paper-thin" and "unlikable." You calling them lovable and talking about how the characters genuinely care about one another was the palette cleanser I needed. This is a wonderful video, and the "a himbo, princess, genderqueer pirate and the last good boomer" had me fucking rolling! Faris is my favorite, but I love all of them. I'm sure that's not surprising given my name. ~.^

[@rubemevangelista3868]

FF5 is a close second to my favorite, FF1. Also Faris is a contender for my favorite character in the series. I love this game. #BerserkerLennaFTW

[@Danny81887]

Honestly, this video is really how I've felt about my media recently. Can't we just have a non-deconstructed story? Can't we just have a narrative experience without all the winks and the nods? Incidentally, I've actually always loved FFV; it's actually my favorite of the pre-Playstation Final Fantasys.

[@Percival917]

The virgin deconstruction vs the CHAD RECONSTRUCTION.

[@ms-06fzakuii53]

@@Percival917 *Chad traditionalism!

[@thethrashyone]

Deconstructionism has utterly ruined modern storytelling; it's become nothing more than a tool, used by uncreative hacks, to shoehorn insipid [current day] social messaging into what is _supposed_ to be escapism. It's inherently cynical, and as Codex so well put it, feels like it's "apologizing for its own existence". To hell with that. If a story is told with cynicism rather than sincerity, then it just doesn't get my money, simple as.

[@stormcutter59]

​@thethrashyone This. And these problems range from all over the place. At worst, it's just liberal politics shoved in EVERY aspect of what's being written and making it lame. But more commonly, it's the self awareness of modern day media. All the winks and waves at the camera, trying to get a cheap laugh at the cost of immersive storytelling and world building just makes me sick. And it's EVERYWHERE now. I can't name a single damn thing out now that ISNT winking at you in some way over things you know or are looking forward to see because of the legacy of that thing before it back when it WAS GENUINE

[@Dahras1]

This is how I feel about Dragon Quest. Playing Dragon Quest III or V or VIII or XI. They're just so pure, such an essential and dependable breath of fresh air.

[@alicevitoriano]

dragon quest is so well made... everyone should play at least V

[@wi11ow8]

@@alicevitorianoTrue, Best games are V, VIII, and XI. In a world of so many complicated RPGs, its nice to have an original fantasy experience with just the right amount of lore where you can enjoy it while still wanting more

[@Calintares]

the job system is so deep that a nuzlocke-like challenge run called Four Job Fiesta has become a very popular way of playing it. even if you can only use four jobs the game is still very enjoyable (except if you get crazy unlucky)

[@CodexEntry]

I've considered doing that run, might be a stream at some point.

[@RawPower867]

Beavis and Butthead: "Uh huhuhuhuh, the main character of Final Fantasy 5 is called 'Butz'".

[@bizanagi5378]

What

[@KBXband]

The only time i ever change a characrers name is in this game when the default name is Bartz. I change it back to Butz. Huh huh.

[@Ragitsu]

You mean "Beavis and Buttzhead".

[@TheDiazDarkness]

"Look, I turned the girl into a summoner and now she has an erection Uh huhuhu"

[@jhon1406]

ffv is an under-appreciated legend. it's my favorite rpg leveling system ever + i'm so glad to be able to play its successors through bravely default, octopath, etc.

[@cutedpanda00]

Try ff3

[@WesleyWyndam-Pryce]

It's not so much as under-appreciated as it is lesser known. Most who've played it like it but it's one of those that many still haven't tried out. I like it but I admit I do like deeper and more epic stories over swashbuckling happy-go-lucky adventures. I'm also not fond of job changing styles so it's not even in my top 5 for those reasons, but I still recognize what it accomplished and enjoy it for what it is.

[@biizv]

During the ice cream section I expected the actual ice cream to end up being much more cursed than it ended u- oh he set the pocky on fire

[@rockrobster27]

Don’t forget this was also the debut of the enemy called Tonberry

[@shiruotakuno28]

And Gilgamesh!

[@revolution_is_my_name8981]

Final Fantasy 6 is my favorite in terms of story but my GOD is 5 the most fun one to play

[@gabrielmorariu9419]

Well now I know why I love Bravely series so much. FF5 is where most of the things I love about that series come from (the job system, rag tag party going against a great power ...) and I really gotta play it at some point now.

[@BknMoonStudios]

Bravely Default is basically Final Fantasy V-2

[@BootsThaRareBirb]

I laughed way too hard at "He is evil because being evil makes you strong, and being strong is cool." Also props on a food metaphor, especially what ended up... whatever that is.

[@SkyeLvl1]

Big fan of the footage and music choice along with the analogies and overall message for this one, very focused and pleasant, top notch.

[@athyrra]

i feel called out on the wanting to kiss taro thing

[@CodexEntry]

it's indicative of being a person of culture

[@CynicalGamingBlogTerry309]

"Final Fantasy 5 Is The Best One" Ah a man of culture I see, nice to know I'm not the only person who considered Final Fantasy 5 to be the best game in the series and the only one I can go back to. Galuf is truly the greatest character in the entire series. The combat is the best in the series by a mile and the world/level design is amazing. I love the concept of the three worlds... something that was later ripped off by the Tales series. It felt like a real adventure, not just some melodramatic screenplay like the other games. What other game lets you travel to the planet's mantle underneath the ocean??? Final Fantasy V = FFGOAT

[@tombstonepizza2299]

Terry 309 dude spoilers

[@gavinlucas9761]

Galuf was my favorite character in FF 5 so you could imagine how shocked I was on what happened to him during his fight with Exdeath.

[@ShonnDaylee]

@@gavinlucas9761 Ugh.... Dude.... Spoiler warning please! I am currently playing through the game, for the first time, and have managed to traverse the internet with ease, because most people are actually pretty good about labeling spoilers, prior to announcing them. Just a friendly reminder, for the future.

[@russiancheems2275]

Am I the only tales guy who just likes the first one and none of the rest?

[@LevantineR1]

FF5 is one of the greats in classic JRPGs. Each character develops over the course of the game into a highly personalized superhero(ine) all their own, but is also part of a greater whole. By the end, you have a team that is exactly the way you wanted them to be, and there are almost limitless paths and destinations in this game. The story is uncomplicated to put it diplomatically, but it has satisfying story beats, and it still feels genuine when it drops the lighthearted tone and gets serious. That opening of the Decisive Battle track with the crunchy drum samples is arguably still the best opening to a final battle in Final Fantasy. Galuf is the winner of the Real Man Contest.

[@OccuredJakub12]

I & VI - bold, new direction for the series and the genre, paired with a very formulaic story that gets very complicated by the end. Very rough around the edges, but still enjoyable years afterwards. II & VII - expands on the ideas of the previous game, adds much more freedom for customization in combat, has a more "mass appeal" feel to it, the characters aren't defined by their jobs III and VIII - Continues the refinements from the previous game, but also explored weirder and more unique ideas in terms of aestethics, characters and gameplay. V and IX - Takes the lessons from the previous games and tells a classical, goofy and light-hearted story with a few mature and dark moments sprinkled in. Character designs very clearly portray the archetypical Final Fantasy jobs and gameplay reflects that as well, being very easy to understand for begginers. IV and X - heavily character focused, the ludonarrative is much more connected to the actual narrative. This is my favourite type of FF, as the gameplay limitations allow for more fun strategies and the characters in these games have very unique skillsets. Just a thing I noticed ;)

[@pollonigui8487]

off topic but i did not expect to see a sweet bro here oh god

[@taylord5381]

Really good comment. But calling ff9 "goofy and light hearted story with a few dark and mature element sprinkled in"? Bro that game can get downright DEPRESSING!

[@sebastiankulche]

Eh... kind of disagree in a lot of them. FF1 and 6 are by no means rough around the edges, at least the best versions (the original is dated though), and FFV is not easy for begginers, in fact, is one of the hardest.

[@MerkhVision]

I also see the similarities between V and IX but the other ones don’t ring quite as true, though this type of cyclic rhythmical structure throughout the series is very interesting and a similar idea can be found in other long series’ of media. The Harry Potter books for example, where 1 and 7 mirror each other, 2 and 6 as well, etc. There’s a Greek term for this type of thing, but I can’t think of it right now.

[@galaxier3543]

I just finished FFV and searched up the game on KZbin to see if anyone else enjoyed it as much I did

[@k1rbyguy]

Same, I beat FFV for the first time earlier today, and this video encapsulates everything I love about it perfectly

[@soledezruiz2860]

Indeed!! I played it last year. And OMG I loved it. Even more than 6 actually my fave from the SNES era.

[@pedroaraujo9195]

Yeah i beat this game last year and i think its criminaly underrated, nobody talks about but i realy love it, maybe not better than 6 and 7 but still a masterpiece. That important character death (avoid spoiler) was such an emotional moment

[@666maka]

I also think FFV is the best, but why is no one talking about the music? for me, FFV has the best music of the whole series! ♪

[@Myrope]

I often hum the music from FFV and SaGa Frontier; love this soundtrack so much.

[@MerkhVision]

Here’s the secret: every Final Fantasy has the best music in the whole series ;)

[@2097xl]

Not going to lie, I've recently played all of the older FF games (1-6) and FF3 and FF5 are probably my favourites just because of the job system, with FF4&FF6 being my second favourites

[@holcanperez9412]

As someone who spends way too much time watching media analysis on youtube, I can comfortably say that the fact that your channel doesn´t have more susbribers is a crime against humanity

[@BinaryDood]

I think FF6 is the one that took the most from the previous games. FF4 was unlike any other because it had static classes to all the characters, whilst FF5 pushed on the whole job system the most. But it was FF6 that merged the two into perfect cohesion.

[@ponzischemegamingclub4420]

no, FF6 is just like FF4.

[@journeroll]

@@ponzischemegamingclub4420 Agreed

[@marucinos9714]

My favorite is IX, but I love V too. It's also one of my favorite FF game. I love the job system in this game. The battles are interesting and I like the story and the humour is hilarious as well. The characters are great as well. Faris is my favorite! Ow and V has an awesome soundtrack! The game is so good yet so underrated...

[@zzz43344]

IX is my favorite, too. Although, I will admit V is a VERY close second. I absolutely enjoyed this game too!

[@Doc_Gilgamesh]

I expected a video on FFV and got a video that's making me think super hard on the things I consume. This is the good shit.

[@evancamposs]

Oh dear lord so im not the only person in the world who loves this one.

[@keypath4389]

That new original ice cream is called Dragon Quest XI

[@hemangchauhan2864]

Crystalline Chill is such a great track. Since it is my ringtone, I thought my phone was ringing when that part came up.

[@armandogavilan1815]

If you tell me FF 4,5,6 or 9 is you're favorite, I'll surely understand and agree.

[@zzz43344]

9 is my favorite of the whole series!

[@armandogavilan1815]

@@zzz43344 yeah, is the perfect final fantasy, I feel they reached finally what the series always intended to be with that one.

[@sebastiankulche]

Well, a shame honestly that you would never understand me.

[@faidou9954]

Don't mind me, I'm in the weird section of the Square Enix fanbase that loves both Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest and acknowledge the strength and weaknesses of both franchises.

[@Cloudrim]

V is definitely the most charming of the series, and not just because it's comparatively antiquated or because of the 16-bit graphics - its characters are fun, the battle system is one of the best ever conceived by human minds (Hiroyuki Ito) and the music is incredible. It's Sakaguchi preparing for the greater depth to come by throwing caution to the wind and going "fuck it - crystals and knights and JOBS, motherfuckers!" and having a blast. Pretty telling it's the last one he directed, too, as opposed to the relative backseat he took for everything afterwards.

[@tasoganedude]

I heard that Exdeath was a misspelling from the Japanese name; Ekusudesu, which can also be spelled to; Exodus.

[@sigurdtheblue]

In the end, I think ExDeath is a better name because the name barely matters.

[@tasoganedude]

@@sigurdtheblue I suppose that's officially his name now.

[@zzz43344]

@@sigurdtheblue Sounds like the name of a heavy metal band, ngl. And I think that's AWESOME!

[@QuestingRefuge]

Been slowly playing through these all again and this has me excited for when I get to 5. The way you describe the job system is absolutely something I loved about Tactics as well

[@morningfog532]

What’d you think of it?

[@hungryluma27]

my favorite 3 are tied. FF5, FF6, and FF7

[@Darkfawfulx]

Three in a row

[@Smellbringer]

Okay, I'm officially calling Galuf, "The world's last good boomer." Also, Bartz isn't a himbo; he's a harem protag.

[@kerryvanskonsol792]

Barzt Love interest: -Faris (a.k.a princess tycoon sarisa/ sister lenna) - lenna (a.k.a princess tycoon lenna/ younger sister) - women from village lux (childhood barzt and crush since kids) But Krile (she actually is princess for kingdom galuf) more like crush to mid (a.k.a grandson cid)

[@azuremadis8675]

FFV will always have this very special place in my heart 💖🥰✨ it is the very first RPG I’ve ever played, and also the very first Final Fantasy game I got to play. I cherish the countless hours I’ve spent playing it. I LOVE the job and levelling system, and how each character gets stronger and more unique as I progress, depending on how I’ve built them up. I LOVE the music, and the story. It’s brought me many laughs and tears. Also, this game is the reason I became interested in learning the Japanese language. The game was in Japanese, so I had to check the dictionary I had on hand to understand the game choices and such 😅 I would love to get to play this again and explore that world again! 💖🥰✨

[@bigmansmallboy]

I love to compare FF5 as the most D&D like Final Fantasy game. Truly fucking amazing

[@ultramango1337]

Damn, dude that was real good

[@MerkhVision]

This was a beautiful, inspiring video that really spoke to me, about what kinds of media I enjoy the most and what I hope to create!

[@joe9739]

I loved having a Berserked Ninja. Sasuke and Dancing Dagger. Elf Mantle.

[@HO1ySh33t]

Deconstruction is just a symptom of an oversaturated market. You have no choice but to break your formula when there's billion of copies with the same formula competing against yours.

[@DAOXINNo15]

If we were not in this pandemic, I would donate to your patron!!!! T.T This is a great video, though! Love it!

[@CodexEntry]

S'all good, I know how it is, these are some rough times. If you still want to show your support though, liking and share always helps out a great deal

[@johnnymontalvo5620]

I love the ice cream analogy. Along the same lines, sometimes, in food, it helps to try individual ingredients on their own, so that you can identify and appreciate said ingredients in a complete dish. In that way, games like this help me identify and appreciate the classic components within other, more deconstructionist, games.

[@JcDizon]

Yeah in my opinion, Final Fantasy 5 was the best one. It just has this feeling the other Final Fantasy games doesn't have. It feels the most lighthearted and their sense of adventure and I found the ending credit scene to be absolutely adorable with Bartz (or Butz), Lenna and Faris riding on chocobo and Krile riding on her dragon and exploring the land after they had saved it.

[@RamblePak64]

Good stuff man, though it hit me right in the "I'm old" when you mentioned being in 4th grade when IX came out. It's weird how there's only 5-6 years difference which doesn't seem like much as an adult, but it's like "Man I was in high school when I played IX" and boy does that make me feel weird. But regarding how similar those first games were, it was even more drastic considering the original US release order. Final Fantasy IV felt like an evolution of Final Fantasy 1, and then Final Fantasy VI a natural evolution of IV, and VII an evolution of that. II was a weird departure where they abandoned traditional level-up mechanics, III the introduction of the class system, with IV being a bit of a return to form, but a much larger cast of characters. V in many ways feels more like a sequel to III, and I can't help but wonder if maybe that's one of the reasons it became a favorite in Japan. That said, Final Fantasy V was also the first game I ever played on emulator. My brother came home from College with his PC filled with all kinds of wonderful College kid games and all of his College kid anime and stuff, and I was able to play this long lost Final Fantasy that never released in the States. It was an interesting time. Always wanted to go back and do another full playthrough start to finish, but sadly I've always been distracted away from it.

[@TommyGrier]

This is genuinely one of the most well written reviews/introspections I’ve ever had the joy of listening to. I am currently playing through every single FF game in a year, and next up is 5. Thanks for getting me hyped for it, and for ice cream

[@tcgjanitor9111]

I can't wait to try out ffv finally. Everytime I watch a lets play of the game I always feel so comfy.

[@shenyathewelder9695]

“Are you not rock hard, yet?!” Is my new catchphrase that I will get in trouble for using immediately on using it.

[@leifster7762]

This video was great. I so agree with all you said about Final Fantasy V. I'm happy to hear my favorite Final Fantasy talked like this. Especially about the party and what the adventure is. Also that vanilla metaphor was good and all,but I don't have any Vanilla Ice Cream and I hate that now.

[@kingdoge69]

One of the most, if not the most, underrated final fantasy. Mainly because it wasn’t released in the US when it was originally released back in 1992. I can guarantee that FF5 would be just as popular as FF4 and FF6 if it came to the west when it originally released

[@CrimsonMoonM]

I think one of the biggest reasons why this job system works so well in encouraging experimentation is that you don't actually ever need to grind to beat this game since all of the classes, even at their lowest levels, still come with the most essential stats and abilities that allows spontaneous job-switching when faced with a specific foe to make a significant difference. You could go the entire game with one character focused exclusively on melee combat, yet they'll still be more than able to pull their weight if you suddenly feel the need for another spell-caster on your team at the tail-end of your journey. Considering how this game's difficulty has been somewhat overblown, I feel this excellent aspect of the job system can't be overstated.

[@gavinlucas9761]

I'm replaying FF 5. And it's honestly among the better FF games. In fact I like the story, gameplay, the setting and characters much more so then FF 6 or even 7.

[@SamraySimon-fy7sq]

I did not expect this to be that deep, but it was EXACTLY what I needed RIGHT when I needed it! Also, I had to grab an ice cream in the middle of it.

[@tchristensen81]

You got a subscribe on that last joke alone, at least. I love FF’s Job System, and so much of the varied takes on that are rooted here.

[@sheridandwyer]

...much as I love this vid I HAVE to stick up for my bby FF4 and say you can walk on lava there too in the passage of the Eidolons-. Okay I love you sorry for interrupting your love rant of FFV I had to get that off my chest XD. 😂

[@owendubs]

Your editing style kinda reminds me of Jacob Geller. Really well done video, good job!

[@randomguy019]

12:58 There isn't another game like GTA5. A masterful execution of a medium, which I utterly despise because it's filled to the brim with pure unadulterated cynicism and hatred for the sincere. It's a hundred million dollar exercise in turning the annoying reddit comments by disaffected, inferiority complex riddled 13 year old boys into high art. A glossy, pretty shell that is filled with garbage.

[@HadesWTF]

IX and V are the best.

[@zzz43344]

Hell yes!

[@dukefleed4280]

ff5 is the only FF game that I play at least once every year with random job generator because of its endless replay value (least played ones being FF2, FFx-2 , FF6 and I couldn't finish FF13 and its sequels I hate everything in that game). I miss the old epic adventure ancient/medieval sagas with some fantasy/extraterrestrial flavour like crystal world/void dimension/elemental world. worlds like FF3, FF4 and FF5. I just hope FF16 follows this approach and be an epic open world crystal saga with improved job system again.

[@Ragitsu]

What is your opinion of FF IX?

[@dukefleed4280]

​@@Ragitsu FF IX is amazing but its fixed character class system has no skill customization and little replay value I finished it twice with different party members and I got the excalibur II on the second run. I like FF5(job skill combinations), FF7(materia combinations), FF11(job/sub job system) and FF12 ZA(combining 2 jobs for each character) more because of customization options and amount of strategies in the skill system. it really depends on what you want from the game. is it gameplay, story, art and music or just an open world to roam around. for me its gameplay and replay value. a good example is FF12, the original ps2 version allows you to learn everything with everyone it gets so boring and brainless. on the other hand FF12 ZA allows you to chose 2 jobs for each character making it much better strategically and provides much better experience by limiting the skill board also encourages player to try the game again with different job combinations.

[@sigurdtheblue]

@@dukefleed4280 Zodiac (Job System) Age also added in two great extra challenge modes, which the game desperately needed since hunts also get on the stale side when combined with how rare encounters were also basically like repeatable hunts. The weak mode is the ultimate strategic challenge.

[@pollonigui8487]

"anyway Faris is enby" oh god you are right

[@pedepatopimenta]

I'm on a never-ending "beat every final fantasy" journey and I started playing 5 on a snes emulator on my phone not expecitng anything, got VERY pleasently surprised by it, what an amazing game! My favorite is Final Fantasy Tactics and the jobs system here is very similar, that was amazing to find out. Very good game and video.

[@jaykelley103]

Wow. Great video, mate.

[@metastase895]

FF5 has always been my favorite of the main series together with - believe it or not - FFX-2. If you think about it, both games have this adventurous light hearted tone that's unlike other FFs ands of course both also share their version of the character class visual transformation system. But there is one particular thing most people overlook when it comes to FF5. It not only has the best pacing in the series (a byproduct of being main story light), it has the most ingenious method for offering and presenting main character story arcs. Not many players realize that after various points on the main story, you can access character specific development and story beats by going back to previous places or in some cases going to completely optional towns. In other words, the character development is optional in order to not bring the game's pacing down but it IS there as a reward for those who explore. Which brings us full circle as to why FF5 is my favorite even beyond its gameplay. I think 99,9% of all video game stories are trash. At best they may have a few interesting moments but IMO not worth the dozens or sometimes hundreds of hours of badly written plot/characters I don't care about. So you see, it's just that FF5 has better pacing. It's that NOT forcing badly written melodrama down my throat is a feature. But let's suppose you disagree. Let's say a more elaborate story like from FF6 onwards adds to your experience. My question is: how many times can you go through that same static story without losing the entertainment value? I think the best example here is FF8. The 1st CD is crammed full of dynamic NPCs and little events, all of which are updated after each story beat and it's clear a lot of thought and care went into it. And then the 2nd CD is almost as bad as FF13. Even if we assume the entirety of the story is worth experiencing once, would you say it's even worth replaying FF8 in its entirety when the best stuff is all on the 1st CD? I'd argue that only the 1st CD is worth your time despite being a massive FF8 fan. And that's with a clear case. Unlike FF8, most other FF games have their little highs and massive lows all over the place so you can't cut it relatively clean like with FF8. Would I replay FF7, 9, 10, 12, etc? Maybe once every 10 years but most likely no. FF5 though? Easy to replay every year or so.

[@RadishDoctor]

FF5 has virtually *zero* dead weight among it's cast or gameplay utility. Even FF7 and FF9 can't say that.

[@ScumDenial]

FF7 can say wtf it wants bro...

[@totallynuts7595]

Friendly reminder that Elric of Melnibone exists and was dark fantasy before dark fantasy could even crawl from its crib (First appearance of the character was in 1961, 5 years after Lotr)

[@MysteriousMew]

Five has reminded me a lot of Bravely Default, giving me similar vibes. I'm not trying to claim they are the same experience, but the way the games are written and gameplay is handled is close enough to where FFV ranks higher on my list of FF games just because it is so similar I'm aware Bravely Default is just a different shell over a FF game, but it is my favorite game for having so much personality in it, combat is fun, the Party Chat system really adds so much to it, letting the characters have conversations about location or events. If FFV ever gets remade on a big scale, I would love for it to have something like the Party Chat system. I'm playing the GBA version of V and let me tell you they really can squeeze a personality out of that limited space. (Galuf really knows how to make a scene) Frankly, FFV has been the most notable RPG experience in recent memory, this is while I played Persona 3 Reload and SMT 3 Nocturne.

[@valen0179]

I'm playing this now as the pixel remaster version, and I'm having so much fun with it! It's really making me feel angry that we didn't get this back then when it was released originally.

[@gianmariaroza6084]

The ice cream metaphor is perfect.

[@eriochromeblackt3021]

FF5 may not be the best Final Fantasy but I can argue that it has the best gameplay out of all of them. Spoilers: Galuf made dying badass!

[@Darkfawfulx]

The game has it's cake and eats it too afterwards. And I love it.

[@OzymandiasWasRight]

Wow. Great channel. This was exactly what I needed to see to finally start this game. So far the job system isn't nearly as complicated as I expected.

[@SatanClauze]

Replaying it now and I find myself really agreeing with this video - it's very well argued! Love the vid :)

[@TrevorGomes]

Subbed literally entirely because of the ice cream gag. Hilarious.

[@lokusbluete3068]

i really whish they did one thing. SpOilers. seriously! dont read if i havent finished ff5. so after ***** dies. we shouldve gotten a sinhle quest. like "getting him back" croni trigger style optional

[@Sonntam]

I feel you on this one. I am a huge fan of fantasy and while I love deconstructions, I do miss some good ol' adventures in beautiful forests and other scenic places. I am glad that Wheel of Time show is coming out soon, because I really want to immerse myself in something really idealistic, typical fantasy-ish.

[@iamthehobo]

Ff5 incredible one of the best. Class system and story that is both not too serious but not too goofy

[@Yamartim]

Ah I missed this man sm

[@jpjindani6492]

Final Fabtasy 5 is my personal favorite because it's tge first RPG i played. I finished ths game for about 10 times already trying different job combinations

[@Viktir123]

He said you can catapult a skunk at a dragon, be right back I'm buying this right now.

[@horricule451]

Finally, someone else agrees with me that faris is nb

[@jesseRya]

Final Fantasy has been traditional fantasy combined with cyberpunk elements longer than it has been inspired by traditional Tolkien fantasy. It started with six.

[@b.1570]

Say whatever you want about the characters or the simplistic story, I care for them. you must think: hey there are way more charismatic characters with even more better epic stories. I agree. FF5 is not a FF6, FF7 or Chrono Trigger but It has a special place in my heart. the more weirder is I'm born in 2000 and I appreciate more older games than new ones. Final Fantasy V was my first contact with RPGs and I enjoyed all the elements even the characters. (except for the edgy tree exdeath. just for sake of being evil) It was easily enough to make me when I was 11 years old captivated by them (specially for Galuf). and after 10 later I finally finished few weeks ago. It was a accomplished feeling being my first RPG I've ever played. Man I feel I am a 20 years old with a Boomer spirit Lmao so good to see finally someone talking about Final Fantasy V. Awesome video. (sorry by the long text)

[@andreahueck6207]

FUCK, FINE I’ll buy FFV! Great vid!

[@rupeehyrulian5259]

You scammed yourself you can emulate the game for free and get a free emulator too so but was it worth it?

[@alloneness6956]

I still can't forget Xezat

[@twilftw]

Damn this just made me want a ff4 video

[@johnnyrenfield]

This video is a damn masterpiece 🤘😎

[@Golden-iv1xk]

I always looked back into ff5 (advanced) since it was the first video game I've ever actually played (gameboy) although my ffv advanced was not saving so it was impossible for me to beat it at the time especially when dealing with school and stuff. 6 years ago I remember beating ff5 getting all magic including dark arts, mastering all jobs, and getting all bestiary entries along the way. None of this would have been possible without searching and looking things up and learning neat facts, like stealing Ragnarok on one of neo exdeath targets. Good times.

[@user-fy3oy4vo9m]

Oh shit. Wasn't expecting you to cover this one first. Nice!

[@shien1911]

thanks for explaining why I was so drawn to FFV even though I spent hours and hours going in circles, went back and got myself trapped in one instance, I'll try again in a few days

[@Guratza]

Although I don't like FFV your ice cream metaphor was amazing

[@johnlewisbrooks]

ProJared: ...and the bird can get the FUCK out of my party! 😅😅😅

[@echidnaralsei1473]

7:10 bro i use geomancer. its gaia is actually handy dungeon crawling library, ronka ruin, desert, cave, marsh, exdeath castle (i think). just not on sea, moore pyramid, and forest (but surprisingly good in moore forest).

[@Nahuelwg]

My first ff was V so i guess its cool

[@lmagus]

What a great analogy!

[@Percival917]

Eh... I'd say Dragon Quest as a whole works better with the vanilla ice cream metaphor, personally.

[@mattotundrie244]

I remember this was my first ff game, and it was so much fun to mess with the classes. And watching a play through to understand all the secrets and that. But I never finished it, but I always loved it, and I never really cared for the story tbh I just wanted to play.

[@FF18Cloud]

Cuz class system, done

[@pesky2119]

I mean 3 has a class system

[@CodexEntry]

@@pesky2119 Yeah, if it were JUST the class system, then FFX-2 would be the best lol

[@LevantineR1]

@@CodexEntry The flaw of X-2 is the game is tuned so low on the difficulty that leveraging almost anything in your toolbox ends the battle before you can finish rummaging through the toolbox. In-battle changing should be a big deal, but the game doesn't throw enough(any?) encounters to make this a meaningful tool. Enemies and bosses in 5 feel more rewarding to take down since they let the party interact with each other a bit longer. 5 also has a subjob system that isn't ass. I don't know why it's so hard to borrow the concept of the subjob modifying the relevant stats, but here we are. Not even Bravely Default/Second got this right. IMO and such.

[@Urameshi87.]

If Roman from Succession made a KZbin channel to talk about Final Fantasy.

[@getterkaiser1760]

SOMEONE HAS FINALLY SAID IT YES!!!! YES!!!!

[@nicholaszacharewicz693]

I've always enjoyed FF5, but I really appreciate the deconstructionist angle you take on it here. Thanks!