Why GOOD Players Get STUCK in LOW ELO - League of Legends

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[@qebron]

While i agree with alot of what you said. Regarding how the Jinx clip goes, SHE missplayed that on a mechanical side as far as i see it. We clearly see her blasting rockets. 525 (minigun), 700 (rocket)

[@Local_commentor]

Yeah well I hired a booster and he can't get me out of iron he's a diamond peaker but like wtf

[@franciscoluisblanco6763]

LEARN TO ACCEPT THAT RIOTS MAATCHMAKING IS BROKEN,. AND STOP EXPLAIN SOME BULLSHITS :)

[@cooolbeeenz5438]

I’ve decided that the only lesson I’ve learned today is that my teammates really are holding me down and I belong in challenger.

[@Malachi_Wood]

Based

[@TheLovedUnbound]

Doubtful.

[@miksol320]

True XD

[@lolofx21]

You decided to speak the true

[@sokari134]

Same.

[@regretsin8502]

I like how he assumed they took baron because nasus died when the correct reason was probably “oh it’s up and at least 2 of us are nearby, let’s grab it”

[@hamidalhaja]

Lol

[@yass1817]

Even in bronze we know that if someone (often the fed toplaner) split push and pressure at the opposite of an objective, it free’s it because if the enemy team let him push, he will take tower + inhib. So for the nash with Nasus nothing incredible to know

[@shubashuba3978]

​@@yass1817 That's the point of the video, in high elo that may have worked, but in low elo you have to have in mind the possibility of both the split pusher dying and your team choking and losing baron + giving an ace to the enemy team.

[@someguy-zg2qf]

in low silver it doesnt matter what you do, youre gonna to make every smooth brain on your team implode when you make the smart play while they int. the amount of times ive taken the 3 mid towers and now baron is 100% free but the team run it down mid even after being told multiple times theres nothing there is insane

[@ParabolaTool]

It's nearly every game, man. Doesn't matter if you type or ping what to do. Monkey time ARAM when there's 0 towers there and side lanes to push or drake / baron is up. They're still gonna group mid and die for no reason.

[@martinzuniga6605]

Yeah bro, low elo is clean up elo. They will never listen cuz they just wanna team fight 24/7. But just trail behind them and clean up. Even if u pick off 1 person is good enough. U did the best possible outcome.

[@IrishPharaoh2008]

This one wrecks my brain - even when you point it out they don’t understand the logic, I really need to just take skill capped videos onboard and release it’s futile to try…

[@someguy-zg2qf]

@@martinzuniga6605 for me i just push towers extra hard now, force the enemy team to think what to do

[@someguy-zg2qf]

​@@IrishPharaoh2008 because these people play with a desperate mentality and that blinds them. its funny because when you have people like that on your team and you all can see the win, they start playing STUPID AF, and ive seen this on enemy teams too. i honestly think winning is like a drug to some people they get completely blinded at that chance for a high.

[@Jennicorn]

The way the ranked system resets (and puts everyone back like 2-3 ranks) adds to that too. When everyone ends the season higher up and then has to climb out of bronze again in provisionals, everyone has different expectations of their teammates and throwing is basically guaranteed. And then you miss every skillshot because the bronze opponent moves like a crazy person (literally can't tell if they're smurfing or iron--or probably I'm just bad). Every tier is like it's own circle of hell 😅

[@SomeGuyXD65]

Climbing out of Bronze is very easy though, shouldn't take that many games

[@wwhjams]

I keep making it into gold and yet the game sets me back in bronze ((: and I have to climb out every season. It’s annoying. I can do it but it’s annoying as hell

[@imthegoat94]

Dante Alighieri played League and Inferno is about soloq

[@Spar7anProjec7]

@@wwhjams i climbed to gold 2 in s10 with around 35 games (i don't play much), then I skipped a full season and now at my first placement (that i lost) I got into bronze 2. Can i climb out of it? yeah ofc, I climbed out of it so fast on a second account that i got put in smurfQ. But is it annoying? YES FFS, I already proven to the game that i can climb over bronze, why should i ever be put back there again? I understand if the climb was very dynamic with fast climbing and deranking (like hearthstone or other card games) but here in league we're talking about 25/30 minutes each game, so needing to play 30 games (more or less because they depend a little on your luck) just to get to where i was before is fucking annoying as hell

[@wwhjams]

@@Spar7anProjec7 yup, exactly. I’ve proven multiple seasons in a row I can get out of it-and stay out of it-yet it decides I “belong” in bronze every new season’s beginning, and I have to start all over again.

[@MNZGamin]

I went on a 5 game losing streak followed by a 9 game win streak just now. Nothing about my play changed. It was entirely team comp/competency of teammates. If you’re a platinum level player, you’re hard stuck in gold at the whim of match making. You have to be 2-3 divisions better than where you are to stand a chance at climbing. I saw a guy in S3 clearly trying to boost an account. His record on the season was 50-8 and he was S3. The rank system is broken and designed to keep people below their skill level in order to get them to grind more. Since it’s a free game, the more you play, the more likely you buy cosmetics

[@manarchy3]

I actually emailed riot about this type of situation, and they basically told me that I just have to be bear bad teammates and that my current elo is just "unlucky". Once I asked about climbing out they just avoided the question entirely thanks rito

[@thevictor7851]

@@rleften5788Nah fuck you. Its a goddamn team game. You shouldn't ONLY climb because of your own individual skill, but a combo of your skill + everyone else on your team's. Having the "carry" mentality is such bullshit because it invalidates everyone else on your team. Its a team game. If you get a shitty team and you do everything in your power to win, and you lose - your team lost you the game.

[@iulian.m.]

That last example with the mid push brought up some traumatic memories from when i used to play lol (and reminded me the reason i quit) 😢😢

[@EB-tr2ly]

1- Don't vision-tunnel into plays following blindly your team , choose the option that gives you more options to be safe if things go wrong (as most of the times will go wrong as is low-elo and people don't know how to play) 2- Don't go all-mid to end a game if an enemy is pushing a tower, better defend that tower because in most cases your teammates will die there and the enemy will take all your towers 3- Don't force baron just because an ally died in the opposite lane pushing, bait it instead 4- Pressure a lane only if other are being pressure too, if your teammates stop pressuring, just leave too

[@Assassinss77]

9:25 are we going to ignore the pefectly aimed ult by ashe to delay LB getting to the fight? Clearly that was the case

[@alexanderzet5028]

He missed VS belweth

[@AnthonyCheeseborough]

As someone who has been diamond, I can definitely say the games are so much less frustrating even though you still get shit teammates. In low plat/gold games, it's literally a matchmaking coinflip. Your games are largely decided by who has more griefers and who is griefing the hardest. People just do so much random, objectively dumb things per minute that unless you're a challenger player, the amount of control you have is very little and the only thing you can do if you're actually a consistently good player is keep playing games until enough coin flips land on heads. It actually takes me twice the amount of games to get from gold to plat as it takes for me to get from plat to diamond just because games are more controllable the higher you get.

[@luukas2660]

Just created my second account ever to otp pantheon jungle and I definitely had a worse winrate in platinum than I now do in emerald and diamond. Platinum and down the games are just such clown fiestas that I don't really know what to do at times.

[@AnthonyCheeseborough]

@@luukas2660 well now matchmaking all fucked up. I'm now in platinum getting silver and emerald players in my games so it's a bit different this season lol

[@_darvinos]

So I was stuck in platinum for a long time. After I improved my gameplay based on common mistakes seen in this video , I managed to climb diamond 2 . Enter wintraders/trollers. Literally people running it down after one slight inconvenience or 2 friends in opposing teams feeding each other off. I'm now going back and forth d3-2 .

[@djbreal87]

I can't even get out of Silver. I was in promos to get into Gold, and then my next 10. Yes. 10 games. Someone left. Someone flamed, died one time, left match. The next 10 games, bot and top fed 4 or 5 kills before 10 minutes. By the time I can roam, the enemy team is already too fed for me to do anything. I main Mid. Always counter pick, and pick based on team synergy and carry potential. But am constantly losing games, BECAUSE everyone else on my team is absolute garbage. You cant tell me I belong in silver when i nearly always win lane, never chase, ward, rotate, focus objectives, and try my hardest to ping and tell my team, dont chase, ward, dont blind check bushes. But they CONSTANTLY DO. And just FEED the enemy kills. Every game. This is my life. And im on like a 20 game losing streak down into S3, and it jsut keeps getting worse. I win lane, but cant transition that anywhere else, because every other lane is feeding SO MUCH me being ahead cant change anything, because the enemy is ahead of me. I hate this game.

[@custardpup6385]

@@djbreal87 sorry you had to deal with this. I feel like the game tries so desperately hard to keep people's winrate at 50% to inflate playtime and therefore profit. It shouldn't take hundreds and hundreds of games just to get from silver to gold yet it does for a lot of people. IMO if you play like a gold player you should be able to get out of silver, but it honestly seems like you need to be playing at a level at least 2 tiers higher than your current one to be able to compensate for all the griefing and mistakes.

[@djbreal87]

@@custardpup6385 Lost a few more games. at 0LP in Silver 3, despite my last two losses going 15/4 with Veigar and 10/2 on Viktor. I can't carry, despite winning lane, if the rest of the lanes are feeding :( I just need to transition to top or ADC and learn some crazy hyper carry. This is getting ridiculous.

[@custardpup6385]

@@djbreal87 as a support main I really feel your struggle with finding it hard to carry when everyone is making mistakes and inting. The only thing that keeps me sane in these kind of lost matches is setting my own mini goals to accomplish that game. Like a certain ward score or to try to roam more etc. I try to focus on little things I can individually do to improve because if the ship is going down I may as well at least get something out of it. Hope you have better luck in the future.

[@djbreal87]

@@custardpup6385 Im really trying. Thanks for the words of support. I'll keep plugging away.

[@renatoramos8834]

7:30 I remember when once my team was preparing for an endgame teamfight. The previous fights had ended with both teams having 1 or 2 weakened members alive. There was a HUMONGOUS enemy wave top. I TOLD my team gathering mid that I would quickly clear that. I did that anticipating a potential scenario where two enemies end up alive after the fight and would then push two lanes thanks to this huge wave. In that small interval it took me to go top and clear the wave, the losers fought mid 4x5 and got decimated. Bear in mind that thanks to ME, we still had all out mid turrets. They could have easily stayed back for 10 seconds and lost the first mid turret instead of engaging/getting engaged. Then, of course, they blamed me for the loss.

[@aFinalNote]

The mute button is your best duo que buddy

[@LinkinKable]

Why good Players are stuck in low elo: 1. Getting into smurf queue while not being a smurf 2. Elo booster density in promo devisions. 3.smurfs 4.Loosersqueue /"engagement" based matchmaking....

[@tnpcook]

Don't let people you aren't confident in define the severity of your options. If an idiot offers you a choice between lose/win BUT you also have to bet on him doing good, it ISN'T a choice in your favor. Bonus points if you're already ahead and the gamble includes outcomes far worse than anything current.

[@kamiloitovocaloito]

That is definitely not the problem. I have reached diamond many times and with many accounts, sometimes with up to 30 consecutive games won. Most games are lost in the first 10 minutes and there is no way to win. Sometimes I have chained multiple games with a 0/40 team. In these cases, the only way to rank up the account is to duo with another diamond. In the case of someone who is really silver, earning 10lp, how is he supposed to rank up? Because it also doesn't improve when playing with mediocre players every game. My advice is to have multiple accounts, to try to get progress without getting stuck in an elo. Example: I've had a good run with this account, so I'm still with this account.

[@marekbburek]

If you have team mate losing lane in high elo, they will be 0/3 and 20 cs down in laning phase, if you have team mate losing lane in low elo, he will be 0/10, 3 levels behind and 50+ cs down, gap is just different

[@alejandroc7357]

This alone is also the reason why i started to play more adc and support. Bot lane tends to suffer alot early on. I main jungle, but them i hate when we get a dogwater jungle and we end up losing

[@natepetit271]

The thing that gets me is the constant need for these players to invade with leads when obj are up. Or when supports like bards for some reason stay with adc alll game

[@lTrueVenoml]

The problem is that it is a team game and too often there are idiots on the team. And if you want to explain yourself, it's your fault, of course. How I hate it when someone tells me that I'm losing because of my fault. I would like them to introduce 1vs1 ranked games.

[@gpavl1177]

you guys got it all wrong. low elo players dont win and blame everyone else for their mistakes because they'd rather argue with their team than just play and gain elo/ gain more knowledge about the game

[@DarthMalcolm420]

Wait people trust their teammates to be good? I'm a diamond adc and I still don't trust my teammates 😂

[@Banghatsu]

Don't trust teammates. Don't make risky plays when ahead. Make risky plays when behind. Low elo games and high elo games are different play styles. Don't trust teammates. Don't trust teammates. This was not a typo.

[@Tarik-if9zc]

lmfao that jinx sitting in meele range and not only that he kited himself into meele range instead of back funniest shit ever

[@TheKittyClink]

One thing I learned about low elo is people will rage over anything. I totally see how people get stuck. I mean you try your heart out and some shit stain tries to make you lose becuase he's a loser IRL. I'm GM and I've gotten stuck in gold for a bit before breaking out on my sona account. Like I've met many gold and plat players who are better than the diamonds my smurfs always end up stuck in. People intentionally ruin the game and if it's your first time climbing it can be super hard. And worst of all It just hurts when you put all this effort in to have someone else ruin it. I have been playing in silver with my IRL friend and like we done 10 games so far and had 6 rage quits over who knows what. Thankfully won 9 of the 10 but still of he was solo how shitty is that. I empathize and that's why I joined SC community. To learn and help others if I can :) Sorry rant! 😞

[@bonecrusherx464]

This is so true specially on the baron throw part. As a top laner (sion) who's pressuring t3 tower. I make shotcall on my team to start baron and I'll tp when someone defends What happens is that they don't listen and after I die from a 4 man collapse they thought its a good idea to do baron while the adc is farming krugs. Which made me just more tilted Maybe I should've not relied too much on my team and taken a different approach by just preparing the bot wave to shove to their tower and joining my team. Which I can have more options to choose from (being able to help my team clear the objective when enemy pressure is low or make my own tp play to bot lane to secure bot inhib and maybe nexus towers)

[@Darkkro1991]

Great example with the hungry hippos😂

[@kingheenokgaming4783]

In low elo, people don't know what to do after a ace or a won team fight. They don't know how to trade objective by splitting BUT THEY THINK THEY DO. If you want to climb, first thing you should do is mute them all.

[@mmattheussiqueira]

wtf is this ornn's ult icon at 9:11? lmao great video, as an ad main in low plat this is pure reality "stuck playing zookeeper" got me HARD LMAO one thing I miss in the guide is some more emphasis in the behavioral low elo soloq aspect, that you will get hard flamed, and what is the best way to deal with it, when to roll with the "wrong play" technically to not lose your estimated soloq pet ally hehe

[@glenndiddy]

instead of doing baron, do a more complex option of doing baron, but turning on the enemy team. Bro this is low elo, they can't track more than like 0.5 actions going on at any time. It would surprise me if they knew how much HP baron has

[@Postermaestro]

5:39 "In low elo you never want to commit to plays that rely on any competence from your teammates for you to come out ahead."

[@uvy3908]

This is why jungle is so hard in low elo since u gotta rely on ur teammates to coordinate...

[@marcussmith4913]

what about when every game top bottom and jungle feed 20 plus kills before the 10 min mark? Because this seems to happen in every single one of my games.

[@ChamberlainOG]

I learned in league everytime I play good my team plays bad, and everytime I play bad my team plays good.

[@lizardltd]

As a chess player myself, I really appreciate the metaphor 😂😂

[@nezzysan]

You guys have been saying you sent challengers into eli hell 714+ times and counting but never update how many times the "and counting" is

[@Gonzalodestroyer]

Im a main support, i cant do sh** if my adc dont know how to farm, my jungla dont care about obetives or the most anoying thing "you dont deserve to win" and then they feed

[@hggvhh3074]

This vid goes back to the right play being the wrong play.

[@KatzeArtemis]

Jinx: this is just stupid. jinx didnt even make a mistake there. she lost cause her team is bad. if she stays mid to push the wave ALONE it IS a mistake. there could be a cat jumping at her 1shotting her. she doesnt even have flash. " if she pushes wave she can zone samira rell by herself". thats also from. they could just flash over her E like psychos and probably get a 1k shutdown that way into quadrakill for samira because her team would try to peel when its too late. twitch: could have solokilled teemo from a million yards away. AGAIN: twitch doesnt have flash ready. what if teemo flashes on him and presses Q? ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE. TWITCH CANT DO THAT. ashe: bro wtf. she is just following. u really think people would listen to your call? if you dont hit that baron, your team will get so mad, they will cry irl, blame you for not attacking nash and them dying to ornn tp. she will never get peeled again and her team will RUN IT DOWN in the next fight because of tilt cait: what are you even talking about? dont make the correct play? this is completely fine man. wow, they traded 1 for 2. if anything her mistake was that she pressed heal. she might need it later. even if you say now "the clips were chosen poorly, but its good to apply this 'in general'". dude. at the end you even said "dont do the generally correct play, if it requires brain by teammates"

[@imcleb8380]

Me trying to win my lane as hard as I can. The rest of my team combined is 2/27

[@JC-wg5xn]

There's a great tip I learned where you set a timer in the background that beeps every 5 seconds, and try to check map each beep. Also map overlays with jungle/inhib respawn timers are like free and legal hacks, so use them. These two tips take zero skill to implement and you will play better (no money back guarantee for this free info, but do it anyway)

[@Bogidani]

Im a plat player for 8 seasons now. Cant get out of Gold 3. 33% winrate. Win one game, get 50lp and then loose 3 for -60lp. Im stuck here. And every game my sololanes go something like 3/15 And every game, after a clean laning phase we get into teamfights (AND OF COURSE the enemy teams are way better at everything) and my KDA drops from 4-10 down to 2.5 and i keep loosing. I could invite anyone and show games from my history and prove that everything i say here is true. I cnat take this game anymore. Why am I being forced to play with people 2-4 ranks below against people who are 2-4 ranks above.

[@johngamer9949]

Ok so I HAD THE WORST TEAMMATES. I picked Yasuo mid, Top of course went Yone and adc went tristana, but look at this, Tristana took smite....Yone went in to turret and fed. THen both of them started to follow me around, it is impossible to win with trollers like this. Tristana smited every canon, took cs and xp from me, followed me all the way so I couldnt get strong enough to carry?! THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!

[@Charuid]

I'm not high elo but even when I smurf/boost in bronze/silver/gold, I apply what I call "bad macro strat to win". Legit get fed, force-group with your team and bulldoze their base down :D

[@kanuh]

its funny I always manage to destroy top inhibitor while all my team manages to lose the nexus in the same time.

[@herpderp66]

I'm in bronze. My MMR is in gold. Get to loading screen. Enemy team has 2 gold, 2 plat, and 1 bronze. My team has 2 gold and 3 bronze. Matchmaking needs to be fixed.

[@delivermypain]

I have this issue. I can't win on my good champs in low elo cause I'm fixed to playing them as you should in higher elo (and I don't mean challenger because I'm by far not good enough for that, but I mean plat - diamond vs bronze - gold). Meanwhile when I play champions I know I suck on and would int with in higher elo, I absolutely rolfstomp with in low elo. It's the oddest thing and quite depressing honestly.

[@ThinkTanky]

this is also probably because poor warding. They more than likely did not notice the rengar in the first clip, and if they did could not pinpoint where Akali is. I like this take-away. All of my friends are plat and some challenger and all of them tell me that I am a good league player I just make poor decisions. Now I am starting to see what that means. I always rely on team play even when that is not the reality, I never continue to push lanes because I feel like I will get ganked and lose my bounty. I really like the concept high risk, high reward I never thought about that. Its crazy that you can know all the moves, items and abilites (including names) and still do a piss poor job at countering or knowing when to attack too. (me) XD. it definitely gives me more of an understanding on how I can better learn the game.

[@redrosewick]

High elo is real league of legends Low elo is a social experiment that tests the limits of a persons patience, stress tolerance, and ability to work around 4 people that need to be carried "There's no "I" in team, but there's 4 in Inting Idiots" --- Rav

[@jeeves9233]

Bless Rav

[@hueheeuuehueuheuheuhueheeu1245]

lol

[@Sammysapphira]

Then you realize high elo is the same as low elo, just it's harder to carry yourself and you rely even more on your team.

[@bsp3971]

This is a definition of high elo by someone who has never played in it

[@redrosewick]

@@bsp3971 highest I've gotten to is diamond so you're right lol

[@Carlos-qg2me]

Whenever i smurf between Silver-Platinum, ive always noticed 2 things that happen in almost every game: 1. Theres always 1-2 players that imo dont belong on those elos because they have nice macro game understanding or are mechanically good, but what holds them down is their ego + their teammates bad decisions 2. The bad players are not only bad per se, their mental is reaaaaally bad, they waste like 10 seconds or more every 2-3 minutes typing, are always pointing someone else mistake and they are way too overconfident. In my opinion is really sad that riot havent developed a different way to calculate RP gain/lose, they should take in consideration personal performance rather than win-lose situations, i mean things like csing, objectives, KP, etc should reduce the amount of LP you lose or increase the LP gain in every game, that would make people motivated to play better every game rather than queing into a game hoping the coin flips on their favor

[@namthanh9485]

what rank are u?

[@StarAZ]

@@namthanh9485 You can say they are held down by bad teammates, or you can say their plays aren't adaptive/flexible enough.

[@ZeroXIV]

Agreed as a former booster there have been players in platinum+ who are mechanically sound and give me a run for my money in lane or make the game 10x harder to close out, it's just 1-2 big mistakes like these that allow me to come out with the win. You really have to adapt to the elo that you're in to climb fast.

[@anthonyzapaterthiedey5764]

So agree with you in that points!

[@EOMMunaware]

True man I agree I am d2 main account and feel the same. I hard stomp carry every elo till it’s in plat elo. That’s when the ego and the bad teammates really happen in low elo. Plat is the king of trash teammate and sabotaging

[@serafinw105r2f]

"We are aware this is a situation that you are unlikely to ever be in" That teemo example happens so often in my games its frustrating, and when it happens im usually as an adc not able to stop the splitpush and just die

[@yoyo80s41]

Like so much!.. And can't even count the games where we win 45/30 but keep on chasing, letting the sidelaner take the game for itself trying to reach 49/30 for some reasons.

[@-sorta]

you can stop the splitpush by sitting under tower, if hes fed enough to dive you and youre not strong enough to do something, it is kinda your fault

[@hyun-ki_hei]

@@-sorta yes because fed adcs can definitely defend a tower from a someone like irelia, olaf, jax, garen that was either slightly fed or has ample items... surely they don't die or trade 1 for 1 and give bounty, surely.

[@Sammysapphira]

@@-sorta a 2/7 side laner can 1v1 a 5/1 adc and come out with 75% hp

[@elderjoker-]

You dont need to kill the split pusher just clear the wave

[@dsong401]

Aint nobody winning if the top laner goes 1/11 and feeds enemy tank; this happens routinely in bronze or iron

[@OKIGorgon]

5:40 "In low ELO you never want to commit to plays that rely on any competence by you teammates" I'm a support. My entire existance relies on competence of my teammates.

[@reinkameryu9836]

play a carry support :)

[@alexanderzet5028]

Play brand, zyra, senna or at least xerath (esp. if no assassins on enemy side), velkoz, pantheon.

[@alexanderzet5028]

Even Cho gath is OK too. Or teemo. Even without lead they can do split push job (what usually top do, but not so often in low elo) , being OK 1vs1 poking or killing, if not far behind.

[@alexanderzet5028]

What is good about all these characters, they at least have possibility either to 1vs1 without exp gold lead, or/and burst to kill some important squishy fast. Xerath can 1vs5 if enemies have no fast Champs (usually assassins), and if he gets some advantage on lane in beginning. Like some kills even if your adc died.

[@OKIGorgon]

@@alexanderzet5028 I do play them, but even then, I'm not able to climb out of Gold. I remember goin like 7/0 on Xerath support a month or so ago and still lost. As for split pushing as support, I tend to have the most success doing that as Ziggs. But poke support can't 1v5 when entire team forces a team fight or gets picked off while overextending instead of playing slow and letting me whittle them down. Splitpushing requires team to be able to hold out long enough for me to actually get turrets instead of dying before wave even gets there.

[@jacopodam184]

I'm master support main on EUW and when I smurf I have higher winrates playing mid till high platinum. It's literally impossible playing support trying macro plays or good roams in low elo. I hate when you give all resources to your allies but they can't capitalize them.

[@LarryJ2022]

Good call. I'll consider playing mid.

[@isaac2986]

That's why I don't play support, unless if I get a good team

[@jinzala]

Mam I like support. But I need to switch to another role too. I had literally 4-5 games on a row where my jgler went with a bad negative kda. I pinged so enemy, vision, etc... Nothing helps, almost like I play with bots 😅 I have the feeling in low elo pings from support aren't as "good" as from another role

[@sedarium5307]

Yeah, actually if you are playing a role that it's dependant of your team like ADC or Support it's better to olay another line

[@JosefZeethuven]

trying to do any macro plays at all in low elo is insanly hard even the most simple things like split pushing works only 50% of the time in plat elo

[@jonl7591]

"Remember, this is plat, so, low elo." 80%+ of players who wish they could hit plat one day "-_-"

[@sneek9563]

😂😂

[@Nightwalk444]

Make it 90%

[@SDFGH87896]

Seriously, who are these dudes making content for?

[@sneek9563]

@@SDFGH87896 This Video is for higher elo. It makes no Sense for low elo players to watch a video wich is about why smurfs dont win in their elo

[@theWebWizrd]

@@sneek9563 this isn't about smurfs. This video is about people who are doing well but not climbing as fast as some of their positions should suggest. The reason why they call plat 'low elo' here is because plat games play out very similar to bronze-silver games. Even low diamond games play out very similarly. So it's been divided into 'games that look more like bronze vs games that look more like challenger'. I think it's a bad terminology, but it is what it is.

[@tormentoxx]

"your team mate dying one time", yeah, but my team mate died 14 times.

[@Brko-rx1hs]

muffin

[@JosefZeethuven]

and? carry it

[@flvr5463]

@@JosefZeethuvenwhen your team is giving good dinner to enemy team it's hard to carry almost impossible

[@JosefZeethuven]

@@flvr5463 forsure bro your forsure high elo with this take

[@flvr5463]

@@JosefZeethuvenwhat's ur elo?

[@AAbattery444]

Credit where credit is due. This is a good video. Especially for adc players in low elo. Now you just need to follow it up with a video telling people to stop flaming a split pushing adc when they want to aram a fight where the enemy team is ahead in gold by a lot.

[@ivanjosegonzalez4822]

I feel your pain. As an Shen main, there is nothing worse than trying to pressure either top or bottom while your team arams on the jungle for no reason(no dragon, no jungle monsters), save them with you R and having a stale mate because NO MATTER how much i ping them before i teleport, the guy i teleport in backs away instead of keeping a relative safe distance where i can E the champions.

[@aaronlampkin284]

Nah thats too much common sense for low elo. Especially the part where you tell them to stall/not die but gets caught out in the enemy jg with no vision

[@joshbrucks]

he called plat low elo. good video? this is just an ego jerk. ignore.

[@spinner_5046]

How is this a good video? Lying to people that it's not their fault for being stuck in whatever rank they are stuck just because their team sucks? I'm sorry, but anyone who agrees with this video is a complete delusional, period.

[@vthisguyisafoolv4574]

@@spinner_5046 its if ur stuck in ur elo. If you believe every game you have bad teammates and cannot leave your rank then you are definitely the problem.

[@th0bse_]

I hate how you talk about "low elo" and then show plat games..... Thats WAAAAY higher than actual "low elo" (iron - silver) and completely misses the point, a lot of the playerbase doesn't get anything out of this

[@Sazoel_]

Even diamond its considered low elo

[@th0bse_]

@@Sazoel_ oh, so the top 4% of the player base are "low elo"? ✨a world of make believe✨

[@Ferabc]

Low elo is sikver and below

[@hensinks]

​​@@th0bse_Yes, it is. Did you know that the gap between a grandmaster and a low master is larger or about the same than from iron to diamond?

[@Spar7anProjec7]

the thing that i noticed is that i usually get massive advantages in lane through better wave management, better trading and spacing, BUT, I'm absolutely lost when clownfiestas happen, which are pretty much half of games in low elo. I'm pretty sure that i can't even carry a clownfiesta in bronze lmao.

[@wwhjams]

It can be very situational on whether I can carry it or not. Once 2+ teammates are just being constantly toxic and deciding to throw one way or another just because they both have giant egos even though they know nothing, it’s typically just lost, no recovery option. And that’s one of the most common irritating situations. I wish your LP had a little more to do with personal performance and not just “oh, your team lost, and this is your fourth loss in a row, so -20 LP; you’re garbage.”

[@herpderp66]

The only way to carry in those situations is to split push. Get 3-4 level lead and gold advantage. Kill their jungler and hope you get baron. End game.

[@Technasma]

You must be bronze not to be able to stomp a bronze game

[@chrisnadal9190]

Being hard stuck in low elo ( can't say which rank😅) I've come to the conclusion, don't count on anyone, u are the win condition, If u mess up, game is lost 98% of the time

[@knightmareGS]

100% agree. I go in with 1v9 mentality. If I lose regardless if I have an afk or someone inting there usually are gaps the opponents leave to let you win and if I lose I don't hang my head. I learn from the mistakes and go next.

[@thatguy5233]

i've been in silver-gold for 4 years and what made ME come out (flawlessly, actually) is to change my mentality about the game enirely. man, i wasn't even playing for fun and ironically once i started to play for fun, i started to win more. i also started to start the game with /mute all (only rankeds lol) and i started to care A LOT less about my KDA. i was ~16/4 every game but what does that REALLY say about me? it can mean that i just didn't want to win hard enough, my KDA was more important so i could say "look at my stats, obviously i have bad teammates". it's obviously not always true, but it probably is true more often than not. why do we care "who is the worst" so much, it's disgusting and pointless. it's the topic of conversation in every game in every elo...

[@chrisnadal9190]

@@thatguy5233 I'll try that, I actually demoted from s3 to b3 in one month and I have no idea what happened😹😹😹 jungle is hard in low elo

[@chrisnadal9190]

@Thec The the feeling 😹😹😹

[@renno2679]

Teammates are just bigger minions worth 300g.

[@Jason26k]

The problem with League of Legends is, it IS not fun to HAVE to hard carry and play AS HARD as possible EVERY single game. League of Legends as a competitive game doesn't work it's fundamentally flawed by this. I should NOT have to put my team on my back essentially giving THEM a free win, JUST so I can climb the ladder. I SHOULD be able to sit back play good enough and come together in a 5v5 setting as a TEAM. Yes, there's games where somebody else carries or your team DOES work together BUT, this is far and few in between the norm of UNLESS YOU carry, you will float around the same rank until you do decide to play so hard it becomes redundant and unfun. People will say "You are stuck because you aren't good enough!" When what they really mean is, YOU aren't putting your entire team on your back in what is supposed to be a 5v5 game NOT a 1v5 game.

[@MikeBinnsDaGamer]

Preach brother🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@metalgauntlet3731]

I always have to remind myself in low elo that I can't trust my team to do anything correctly till they show me they can. Till then play it safe.

[@fernanchistera3394]

What if they cant

[@metalgauntlet3731]

@@fernanchistera3394 farm up and try to gain as much advantage as you can and play off dumb plays

[@regretsin8502]

“But we’re in platinum, aka low elo” Me who thinks gold is really high: “bruh wtf”

[@zdelix11]

Biggest issue is when my team has a lead,or we win lanes we dont take towers and push..its hard to communicate tell them to group and capitalize..most of them chase kills in jungle,and give enemy chance to farm up or pick up some kills,then ee lose..

[@alenava6088]

All resume to: "Do not trust your team mates" 😂

[@random1234100]

Long story short MMR is an awful system and they need to fix the ranking system. I should not be getting 8 LP for winning and losing 30 lp for losing because 4 games in a row someone on my team died once and left the game.

[@muellernikolai8630]

if you're getting these kinds of numbers, be honest, you probably went on a 40 game tilt lose streak and didn't demote because you were in xIV 0 lp

[@m.a8335]

Skill Capped: You are losing because you are always choosing the wrong options, which makes you unable to carry your team. Also Skill Capped: Your team is trash and won't understand when are you choosing the right plays. Just choose the wrong option to adapt to morons.

[@LuckyMeYes]

:D trash skills xD

[@gamera5160]

I've learned a lot from Skill Capped, but one of the things that I've learned recently is that their advice is contextual. You have to understand the game state. The first statement you make is true. Often, people in low elo make bad mistakes and don't put themselves in a position to carry the game. But the second statement can also be true, where you put yourself in a position to carry the game, but you make the wrong call because you assume that your team is going to make the correct play. You need to incorporate all of the information skill capped is giving you into a more complete understanding of the game.

[@Wildflower922]

Yeah dude - it's actually impossible to climb through bronze/silver/gold. I won 2 games with decent teammates (i.e. just 1 feeder), and then lost 6 in a row when I got 2-4 players feeding all game SIX MATCHES IN A ROW. Then when you get angry about it, riot bans you. They gaslight you into thinking you're a bad person if you get annoyed at people going 2/13 in a ranked silver match. It's honestly disgusting. I'm a support main with a 51% winrate overall in all my support champion pool, and literally lose ELO over and over. I can win two matches in a row and gain ~50LP, and then lose 2 games from feeders right after and lose ~60 LP. The ranked system is BROKEN and your individual skill doesn't matter because it is nearly impossible to 1v5 when your teammates literally aren't capable of clearing a wave without dying 10 times. It's fucking disgusting. Fuck this broken game.

[@aoisora1445]

in the twitch case the team could have also tanked the turret and rushed it instead of just recalling late

[@gryphon2133]

There's a reason people make thousands of alts. As soon your account gets 300+ games, it's literally doomed to stay in the same elo, and if you want to get out you need to net win 40-50 games. And even then, you get 13-14 LP while losing 15-16 LP, even if you're on a 40 games win streak. Source: I boost accounts with a shit ton of games

[@oJackOfSpades]

Played 15 ranked games today. Lost all but 6. Had the most dmg done, got average A-S on my performance, had great KDA, nearly 70% kill participation and always ganked other lanes ((I´m ADC).. despite this I´m losing every single game it feels like and it´s always teammates running 0/6/0 within the first 5 minutes of the game. I dropped from Silver to Iron 1 since the split happened and I´m honestly speechless atm. I´ve decided to properly r**e my account and just continue running it down, eventually I´ll be able to exit the matrix

[@marka7759]

the problem is that most low elo players cant judge the dependence of circumstances making a play a situational good/bad play

[@pizzapower95]

this is explained so well, respect. and its also the reason why its so hard to keep climbing once a player manages to hit d4/d3. because at that point one is so focused on only playing into situations that do not require any competence by teamates. in other words many players who finaly beat their way out of plat like myself where kind of destroyed by the low elo experience in the progress. and flipping the swich to all of a sudden to mostly play whit the team instead of playing the game for them is one hell of a challenge when you have no experience playing whit decent teams.

[@davidinman6020]

The number of afks or trolling in bronze is crazy. I have over 200 wins this season. 30% of those match legit have a guy going 1-15 or just afks

[@mathgodpiextras]

"You're playing with bad players against other bad players" lol no. As soon as smurf queue kicks in, I'm up against smurfing duos for 5+ games in a row.

[@alexbo14]

Im actually kinda scared on the impact the message this video has and how it will affect putting everyone in the mentality of "my teammates always hold me down" :/

[@far2ez539]

Especially when the video was so wrong. "Twitch should've killed Teemo after recalling from Baron instead of 5v4'ing them in their base with soul + elder + baron" LMFAO yeah what a CHALLENGER player that Twitch is. And that sick Caitlyn who expected her Jungler to hold 1v2 against Quinn+Yuumi incoming from Botlane all the while lacks the map awareness to see Ornn had to recall. Yep, totally ORNN'S fault for tunnelvisioning.

[@Gio-gh4li]

for the 2nd example, while i agree that in low elo going for teemo is the correct play, was it not a bigger mistake for twitch to recall after baron in the first place? while getting GA on twitch is extremely valuable, considering that no one else on twitch's team recalls, it would be more advantageous to not give up any sort of map pressure, especiallly considering that elder buff has a short lifetime (they took elder then baron, so its even less time). had twitch stayed mid with his team, he wouldnt even have needed his GA since he could be helping his team fight a 4v5 with baron and elder and swept the fight anyways.

[@duc2133]

Yeah twitch should have kept up the tempo. High elo even to to save 5-10 seconds to keep the tempo going. Twitch not being at that teamfight lost him the game

[@Stormface16]

I think this is a course from their site and it helped my out a ton. I always tried to play as I saw it on the best players from all regions, but this actually made my rank even worse. They actually say this, but you cannot state this enough - You MUST adapt to the weird things happening before Dia2 because this is not decent League. More often then not either the enemy does some weird shit which catches you off guard or your own team does the same thing. After I admited, that my current Elo does not even remotely fits the playstyle I was going for, it went much more smoothly.

[@Spygon]

Its alot easier to throw a game then it is to win. In low elo i feel half the battle is fighting the urge to throw the game.

[@p0rc41music5]

I think many low elos main goal is just scoring kills, so they fight a never ending battle.

[@Fishbro]

0:26 who would have thought riot games psychologically abusive match making system is actually in the wrong? There's a reason games are never close anymore, and why a majority of non-reddit users know about losers queue and winners queue. The 40-40-20 rule exists in no other game but league. 40% forced wins, 40% forced losses, 20% decided by the player. In every other game it's 0-0-100, with 100% of your games decided by your skill. That's why league is very infamous in NA.

[@nonbinaryqtip390]

I have been watching these guides for about a month or two now and I have gotten significantly better but I just wanted to take the time to acknowledge how crucial map awareness is I mean I’m in low elo and watching my teammates get ganked after not only I pinged by the whole river is warded and they still just didn’t notice is incredible like I was that player once but god is it frustrating cuz for example I was pyke as a sup with an ash adc and we were gettin stomped she was 1/6 I was 3/4/2 at 15 minutes but the whole time I was tryna to tell her to play passive cuz nocturne clearly likes to get kills rather then farm his jgl and this bitch just refused to listen so she died to the same type of gank 3-4 times now sometimes I was lucky enough to get away but others I just had to take the L but after she was like 1/3 or 1/4 I again told her to play passive but she wouldn’t listen so I would grab cannon minion or whatever minion I could with my support item and then start playing on my side of the map close to my turret while she was pushed in to the enemy turret standing there autoing minions instead of last hitting like I said she should do and then surprise surprise nocturne came down with the enemy kai sa and nautilus and my ash died once again like what do I do in that situation I tried to give tips while we were playing and everything but she wouldn’t listen and the funniest part is that there is literally no excuse for her to die cuz u literally warded the whole bot side river when I went to try and get a kill with my mid laner so the info was there it’s just ash doesn’t know what a map is but usually my adc isn’t that bad but every once in awhile there’s a player like this ash that just is clueless

[@riasbeatbox]

Go roam

[@xerathyn]

Plat being low elo ☠️

[@modrn_]

Standard Top Laner situation: Can't see a single enemy on the map and doesn't have one ward out, pushed all the way up to their tier 2 tower, dies to a 5 man gank, yells at the team for not doing anything while they pushed.

[@matsberg1568]

Well, he's not wrong. If you pull the whole enemy team to you and your team does NOTHING to capitalize on it they are bad

[@beccatiquesto64]

@@matsberg1568 i fully agree, i Always tilt when i am able to manage an enemy jungler that camps me in toplane with wasting his time and my jungle Just farms and does nothing to impact the map on other lanes and taking objectives

[@recordmyjumps8945]

I peaked platinum 1(not high elo I know) and I couldn't carry in normal draft games. I used to get very mad, because I was trying hard but everyone else seemed so braindead I couldn't do anything. Now this video has opened my eyes. Screw the team, play safe and play selfish.

[@wildgazer3784]

I say it every time too. I play for myself I do extremely well. Then I'll start slipping and try to rotate to my jungler dying to 2 people and it always ends with me dead, losing 2 waves, and now im behind mid for the next 12 minutes...

[@olliescott3327]

Cause you get teammates who feed the enemy team? 🤣

[@colindupee]

8:33 "We're aware that this is a situation that you're unlikely to ever be in." This is like every third game in bronze, and why WWTD is so effective for climbing out.

[@donblaa]

Wtf is WWTD man, this stuff happens to me constantly but I can’t deal with them as an adc usually or team will die without me there to carry their brain dead asses

[@KosstAmojan]

@@donblaaWWTD (What Would Tryndamere Do) is another video that SC put out about how do deal with the shitshow that is low elo League. The idea is that the most consistent way to climb out of the lower brackets is to play our champion (any champion) as if we were playing Tryndamere and make our decisions accordingly.

[@456Blackout]

Riot will never get a single dollar from me ever again. Unbalance matchmake. Game will perma keep you in low elo. You can play good, make all the right calls but it doesn’t matter 4 other players will always make sure you lose. Doesn’t matter if you end up winning 2,3 maybe 4 games because you better get ready for that 10-15 L streak. But don’t forget it’s not them it’s you. Your the problem why your losing games. ✌🏼

[@dsteddd6087]

Dudes, ranked matchmaking won’t ever be balanced. Too many champions and too many players and too little punishment from riot for trolling. Teammates are nonexistent until like diamond 1 or smthn.

[@alaihn321]

This video is so wrong it’s disappointing. First of all NO! Diamond players are not good, they’re absolute garbage, and in my opinion since I’ve spent time in almost every Elo except gm and chal, honestly bronze and silver players are better than diamonds. The reason gold plat and diamond players suck is because they’re not learning as they’re climbing. It’s the simplest reason EVERYONE overlooks. The lower elo you go, the less mechanics you have, plain and simple. When you’re playing with bad players vs bad players the best thing you can do is communicate. Talking to your team and acting as the IGL is the best way to help your team get ahead. I was upset I was stuck in gold for so long because my teammates sucked so bad I got mad at them for never playing the game correctly. But they don’t know what they don’t know, and if you want to win, you need to know the other players on the enemy team are just as dumb. Game sense and knowledge are huge and can help you climb even when you’re mechanics are terrible. I’m currently in D1 and struggling a bit to get to my masters promos but I still have a bit to learn, there’s a DRASTIC difference between Diamond and Masters, and I’m learning from every Masters player I face. Overall low elo players should never be ashamed they’re at that rank, you’re better than most high elo players short of masters and over, you just have a bit more to learn in some areas and that’s okay, trust me you’re okay and you’ll get out eventually.

[@Frightning]

@6:00 Two great lessons here that haven't been touched on: #1 Prioritize farm over fishing expeditions (especially on scaling champs like most ADCs), yes, a pick in this map state is really good for Jinx's team, but her presence is neither required nor especially desirable given potential risks to make it happen. The farm mid is safe money and xp, which contributes to your excellent scaling (scaling is how well xp and gold increase your power level). In lower elos, don't assume your teammates will make the right choices, they frequently won't, be happy when they don't make terrible decisions that throw away your team's advantage(s) or compound the enemy's advantages. #2: Pushing lanes also makes it easier to advance the game towards victory. This is for a variety of reasons. The most important of which is having waves close to enemy towers makes it very easy to destroy them off of any won fight (even a minor victory will give enough time as the enemy regroups/backs to heal etc. for you to rush to a lane w/ minions near the enemy's tower and take said tower before then can regroup to defend it). Conversely, they have a long ways to push the lanes in order to start destroying any towers. The real insight here is that having waves pushed towards the enemies tower(s) makes the potential payoffs of a fight far more favorable for your team. This alters the risk v. reward calculus by increasing the rewards and lowering the risks of fighting the enemy. Experienced players usually have a pretty good sense of the likelihoods of winning/losing a fight, but they often ignore how weighted the payoffs of that fight might be. Proper risk v. reward assessment means computing the 'expectation' of the proposed course of action. This is the sum of the ((probability of outcome) times (payoff of this outcome) summed over possible outcomes. So if you can makes the rewards biased in your team's favor it can actually be worth taking a pretty major risk in terms of likelihood of success because you risk very little but potentially gain a *lot*. Conversely, when fighting in a situation where the rewards are limited and what is being risked is significant, extreme caution should be exercised and only the most sure of plays attempted.

[@Flicky800]

Now tell me how to stop my team from making outrages fights over nothing for nothing. As a jungler its horrid I have to flip a coin every camp I go to in case my team wants to take stupid fights. My options? to fight with the monkeys during a bad play that's the whole reason I moved from my camp, or take camp ignore it and farm get pinged a million times and tilt the monkeys. I feel like low elo you should just move and fight but its such a risk and this is why low elo games go on forever constant fighting not enough macro and understanding. (pls any advice be grateful I just got in to silver with about 31 wins 50% wr also switched to jungle from mid lane)

[@MrRakan.]

I am happy to finally see more videos like this. There are tons of delusional people that have nothing better to say than just 'win more games'. The truth is if you are a support you are doomed if your team just wanders pointlessly around without taking objectives. Then you see some Masters and Grandmasters trying to prove it's all low elo player's fault and then they only win 5/10 placements on new account. This game is in a desperate need of a new and fair system.

[@zzizzi02]

I've always in Plat~Diamond on the Korean server since 10 years ago. I recently moved to NA server a month ago because I got an american fiance. On this new account, I started on the Bronze tier just like everyone else. I've been trying my BEST to climb up, but I haven't been able to even get on gold. Low Elo players on NA server are on whole different level. On the Korean server, even Bronze players have some basic knowledge like when to push a lane, when and where to ward, when to try Baron or the drake. They're just not good at applying the knowledge to an actual gameplay. But on the NA server... god, most people don't even understand what this game is about. I feel like many of them are actually new to a video game itself. Also I noticed it's very common for a new player to just jump into a ranked match while they don't even know what items are good for their champion. Their excuse is always the same. "I'm new, and just trying to leaen" I mean, do all that on a NORMAL match. Being a new player is not a sin, but it's NOT a privilege neither. Why do they think it's ok to ruin others' rating just because they're new to the game? ///Additiinal story I got an Iron account on the Korean server from a friend of mine, and played like 10 matches to see if it's any different. Believe me or not, Korean Iron players are WAY better than NA Silver players.

[@froglifes6829]

Sounds like korean cope

[@rimanpele]

I feel like its true, for about 3 years i was stuck in low plat as sup only and every season most of my time was trying to get out of gold. In the current season im plat 2, and i think i may get to diamond, and i dont feel like i really improved that much, im simply playing less aggressive and with champions that dont rely that much on my teammates commitment (its really common to low elo adcs to just let you die 1v2 in lane while they afk farm, so playing champions as zilean, morgana, trundle, tk, makes myself feel free to play even with bad adc since (1) im not dependant on them to survive like lulu or yuumi and (2) i dont need to engage so if i need i can just suck the xp out of the lane rather than trying to fight/trade damage 1v2).

[@irolas]

'but we're in platinum, i.e low elo' me, in gold4: ':('

[@pierro2890]

platinum is mid elo, it's only % best players and u can meet many smurf who train new champs in this elo.

[@irolas]

@@pierro2890 not according to this commentary 😂

[@douwemusic]

One of the hardest lessons for me to learn was that no matter how important sidelane pressure and catching sidewaves is, you'll always lose in low ELO if you don't hover your team 24/7 (and mid will never move their ass to a sidelane in midgame)

[@Spar7anProjec7]

True, true, super true. A master friend of mine who was coaching me said that, even if i was playing the sidelane pretty well, i was inting. When I asked him "why? I'm just controlling the wave like you do on your replays, I don't understand" and he simply said "until diamond NO ONE knows how to play with a teammate in the sidelane, so playing the side means that your teammates are going to die for the dumbest reasons and you're not there to change the outcome of the fight", literally mind blown. I'm still dogshit at playing clownfiestas don't get me wrong, but honestly i won a lot of games that i would have lost just because of that answer alone.

[@douwemusic]

@@Spar7anProjec7 exactly lol. I noticed especially when I'm super fed that literally the only right play is to constantly be around teammates. They will fight NO MATTER WHAT so you better bring your item lead over there

[@philbertius]

Does this mean I should drop Fiora until I’m in ranked? 😅

[@douwemusic]

@@philbertius Nah, there are deffo games in which you can just splitpush until you hit enemy nexus with strong sidelaners like Fiora. Most of the time I just pray I kill their nexus faster than they kill my inting teammates when I do that tbh

[@scb-z9u]

Wow, I needed this! I've been using Gold+ strats in Bronze and making really good support plays with no follow up. So I have about a 50% WR and awful MMR. I lose 17 LP and gain 10 LP on wins. So basically play worse to win low elo is seeming really weird, but probably effective. Make fewer plays, don't expect rotations, etc.

[@canyegane2406]

problem is league has too many catch up mechanisms and even if you stomp your lane a simple shutdown gold can easily let the enemy team take over solution is simple, get rid of all catch up in ranked (jungle catch up xp, objective catch up, shutdown gold) keep them in normal (so people who are casual are not screwed) I really don't like playing perfect laning and getting weaker every single second just because my teammates are apes

[@chrisfahey4221]

The game isn't just about your lane.

[@theWebWizrd]

Horrible mentality. This just means that you have to actually keep playing well, you can't just play well in lane and then turn your brain off. You are punished severely for being bad at the macro game in the mid- to lategame by offering huge shutdowns, so playing safe and anticipating dangerous situations become more important. I much prefer it this way.

[@canyegane2406]

@@theWebWizrd the current game is a roulette where unless you are master+ skilled you can't force games to end early and the enemy team always catches up when you have shitty teammates, they don't even need to feed, just not being aggressive enough when you have the lead and letting enemy team farm is as just as bad if the catch up is removed, games will end earlier because the winning side will just stomp, why is this even bad? it literally pushes you to improve your early game and is much more fair, with the current system every low elo game takes 30+ mins where most players have 3-4 items and then the game is more or less a coin flip. This is just a psychological trick that riot swings at you so that you keep winning some and losing some, therefore keep on playing. Just use your head and recognize the mental trap.

[@purplekrakenyut]

The catch ups mechanics are a joke, you'll still snowball out of control regardless of how many catch up mechanics they can have.

[@maltezz]

My ego holds me back. Its too fragile. I can win mid 70% of time and when i lose its a major hit to my ego and i stop playing. Or sesrch for another role/champ