Why Hasbro Hasn’t Made Studio Series Twins |

[@a_literal_brick]

The controversy around the twins is actually pretty interesting. Reno Wilson, the voice of Mudflap, Jazz, Brains, and others, has said that they were supposed to be poking fun at wannabe gangsters, not black people. Apparently the idea for the characters came from a comedic bit he was developing with Tom Kenny at the time. Reno was surprised when people interpreted the character as an offensive caricature. Edit: Apparently Reno Wilson didn't voice Jazz, but the point still stands.

[@RingoLoadagain]

90% of the people who say they're racist either didn't even see the actual movie, or they dismissed them immediately without knowing any of what you said. I'm not saying they're great characters (in fact the film would have been so much better without them, and if that screentime had been given to sideswipe or the arcees), but the "bayformers are racist" thing is so fucking stupid and misinformed.

[@ilikepigeons6101]

The raging hate for them was just the early days of SJWs and their antics

[@bustedsim]

The thing is that ALL characters in the Beyverse movies are caricatures. Micheal Bay movies are not where one goes to find complex characterization. That idea of the VA implies a lot of backstory for why a character acts like that, something a Bay movie would NEVER delve into. So what you end up with is a shallow caricature that's vague enough to be open to negative interpretation.

[@croakinc3670]

That is interesting, I thought they were meant to be rednecks

[@floydforthought9998]

I would be interested in how much better they could this figure today. But it would probably be so small and frustrating anyway. The collection just doesn’t feel complete without them.

[@zenerstorm95]

Fun fact: They WERE in DOTM. For like a few seconds and only in vehicle mode. However in the movie tie in comics, they get murked by Sentinel Prime, which would have been hilarious to see.

[@Vexyprime]

ikr

[@robcowboy2713]

I think it was Mudflap who took a bullet for Bee when Sentinel was prepared to off him too

[@donkeykong6426]

if they had them have 3 minutes of screen for their death it would make sense, but would still get barks and nicks from haters not impressed seeing the 2 and being a bit smitten they had them die quick

[@skybite]

Since Simon furman wrote the adaptation

[@yodaonsoda]

They look like hobos

[@smithbeentrill]

As a black male, when I saw them in ROTF they were one of my favorite parts of the movies because they were funny and their bickering resembled how actual siblings bicker. However, now that I’m older (24) I now see how some people didn’t like it. Doesn’t bother me much still but to each is to own.

[@RingoLoadagain]

They were made to poke fun at wannabe gangster types, regardless of race. No racial commentary was meant to be implied, especially since one of the two voice actors is black and one is white, but you'd never even know which is which. I think the filmmaker's only crime was poor humor.

[@anotherrandomguy8871]

I’m in the exact same scenario as you. Saw them when I was a kid at first, and I always liked them, specifically due to their designs but never thought they were racist even now I love them, and apparently they are meant to be wannabe gangsters, which to me is a “oh no, anyways” sort of thing because outside of speaking in slang and having gold teeth, i don’t even think they are anything much like gangsters. Mohawk is way worse anyways, because he actually acts like a gangster making constant death threats and is a decepticon, but eh I’ve seen people get more upset over drift looking Asian than Mohawk.

[@Under_Dawg22108]

I like them they goofy

[@kitrocks8058]

People these days just like to be offended by anything they can. I’m like you to each their own.

[@Carrion-0409]

I don't mind them and I see what they were going for but it just felt in poor taste. If you like them I can see why if you are offended I can also see why.

[@NotTryingToBeAGoodPerson]

if we got to see the more mature skids and mudflap in dark of the moon they might have had a chance. Its a deep shame because I tell this story all the time but, when I was falling behind in school my reading teacher went out of his way to buy me the deluxe dotm mudflap as a kid so that toy and character holds a lot of meaning to me.

[@_s-p-e-c-t-r-a_music_]

That's an incredibly awesome story.. I know you must have done your teacher proud!

[@zdraveikaksidnes]

Not gonna lie, had they "matured" it would have caused even MORE controversy, what do I mean? "Oh, so now you're trying to fix your mistake huh? We thought they WEREN'T stereotypical characters." Had they been in DOTM, they would have been better off remaining the same.

[@jamesduffy2446]

Loce them or hate them, they were interesting designs. It's a shame we're unlikely to see them in Studio Series as I think modern engineering would truly make good figures for them.

[@umairashraf5167]

Yes yes I loce them very much lol

[@Trosvvo]

I hate their designs

[@Revenuts]

Sooner or later they will make them

[@jamesduffy2446]

@@Revenuts I hope so

[@tegu00]

Me too

[@terrellealy1993]

My thing about the twins is I think it was mudflap who was voiced by a black actor and I like the idea of transformers adopting personalities based off the internet and the twins stumbled upon BET Edit. Reno Wilson is the actor and he voiced frenzy, brains, squeaks, and Mohawk

[@craider45]

Honestly, if hasbro did ever do the twins cause we'rerunning out of on screen characters, then I'd say just reissue the ice cream truck set. They fit perfectly with the studio series scaling and compared to the altmodes we see Skids & Mudflap in for the rest of the movie we only ever seen that version of them get one other release and that was in a toys r us exclusive 2-pack (technically 3-pack?) with Demolisher

[@James-ne1nl]

Did they make the dinobots ? No Did they make dotm warpath? No did they make the mtd bot and the other product placement crue No And Idk what you say they do not need to make those blackface twins

[@craider45]

@James-ne1nl The rest of the dinobots have already been mentioned to be planned after SS86 Swoop gets released, they said before that they wanted to complete the G1 set when asked about the live action dinobots and then they'll go back to the other ones. DOTM Warpath was never in the movie, I said they were running out of on-screen characters if you actually read my message. The main part of SS was to celebrate the movie franchise and give people that grew up with those films a chance to have more accurate versions of the characters from their childhood. Again, if they just wanted to get the twins out and be done with them, then they could just reissue the ice cream truck and be done with them since they'd fit in just fine with SS (they were around half the size of Bee which the ice cream truck versions are) and people wouldn't end up paying for what is being asked for on that set.

[@James-ne1nl]

@@craider45 Bruh put a pic of the twins next to a pic of black face and you shoud see why I don't want a ss toy to come out. And it's good that the people who watch those trash movies made by a man who btw(is not a fan of transformers) get the toys of characters masquerading as their name sake i'm fine with that but those twins ne to be left in the past.

[@savagelion101]

​@@James-ne1nl Blackface? Wouldnt you say that about jazz?

[@geagenesismaria7379]

​@@James-ne1nl warpath didnt appear in the movie, only in videogame. So no, he in the beginning will not be in the SS toyline. I think only will have possibilities to be release in the SS Gamer Edition

[@memeextreme1356]

These guys were always my favorite as a kid because they were really goofy and funny, the racism went right over my head when I was five, like it should. I still find them funny.

[@donkeykong6426]

when i was 12 i told myself they are a ghetto mario and luigi

[@AfterthymeGaming]

Out of the other Autobots, the twins were what really keep me watching RoTF because of their fun personality. And those two have the most personality out of the other Autobots or any Cybertronian characters in the Bayverse other than Bumblebee and Jetfire because of how much screen time they got.

[@robdrabkowski2708]

I actually thought they were just a couple of hillbillies when I first saw the film. Ah well, folks nowdays always gotta find something to be offended about behind every rock...

[@pigeonleader]

Me too I thought they were goofy and illiterate dumb asses how was I suppose to know they were stereotypes when I was 6. I didn't even know they were stereotypes until recently lol

[@NoGoodDirtyRicer]

@@robdrabkowski2708 That’s exactly what I thought growing up with them, I didn’t realize until I started collecting as an adult that people thought they were racial stereotypes, and even now, I still don’t really see it.

[@SylviaMoonbeam1127]

Between the massive backpack making him looked hunched over, the goofy distorted face, primarily green and orange color scheme, and the asymmetric gorilla arms, I’m surprised they called him Skids and not… Quasimodo

[@DeadstreaK_]

I remember having DOTM Skids, I found his foot Transformation really satisfying and his big ass hand was fun to pose in “smash” or punch poses

[@drakesterX]

I remember “Tuner Mudflap” being the absolute longest shelf-warmer here in Winnipeg. Shit was on shelves until mid-way through Dark of the Moon in 2011-12

[@Lord_Betty]

The sad part is that these are neat character designs from the neck down.

[@reluttr2]

Thats because they are slightly based on 2001 RID X-Brawn

[@inkybrixx1291]

I still hope we get Skids and Mudflap in studio series

[@Viceries]

I will say when I was a kid, I had the twins that combined into that ice cream truck, that was such a cool concept to me.

[@cfighter95]

Personally I don't care about the controversy, I would like to see these made into the Studio Series. Lets be honest there were like two decent Bay films at most but that hasn't stopped them from making one of the best toylines Bay fans could have ever dreamed of. Assuming they even plan on completing the entire cast for each film, leaving these two out completely would just be unfair.

[@mrBluesky1986]

Heck yeah

[@GladDestronger]

I didn't think the twins were racist, but the designs were crap, weren't funny, and frankly they both were just plain stupid. By stupid I mean the twins are dumber than a bag of hammers.

[@just_decibelio4605]

The ice cream truck one was goat from the og rotf mainline, let's think for a moment. If both of them would be released in Studio Series, would they be Deluxe or Core? 🤔

[@cfighter95]

@@just_decibelio4605 If they did an ice cream truck release in Studio Series, I'd be more than fine with them being core class if the combined vehicle mode was deluxe sized and both figures were bundled in one package. I would also still want both of them in deluxe size though, just as standalone figures with their normal alt modes.

[@Cdr2002]

Oooh who’s an edgy boy, not caring about racial stereotypes? Who’s an edgy boy! You are, yes you are! Oohh who’s an edgy boy!

[@Time_Fire199]

I don't give a shit, these characters were dumbasses in the movie, but they were decently funny. Hasbro should make Studio Series versions of these characters. Revenge of the Fallen is 14 years old.

[@SilverHairedFreak25]

If there's one good thing I can say about the twins, is that their alt modes look nice.

[@mage_43]

I'll give them this, I like Skids in green colors and would love to see Legacy G1 Skids in green, like that one time they repainted the original G1 figure in green and orange as different characters to represent Skids and Mudflap from ROTF

[@rennwagena4831]

Completely disagree with them being “non-desirable” characters. I loved them both, and bought all their toys. Would buy MPM of them both and SS if they made them. They were funny, people just get offended by everything. They were just goofy characters and that’s why I liked them.

[@ailma0400]

It’s times like these I wish 3rd Parties cared about doing mainline scale stuff… just an aside, I remember my mom finding a RoTF Mudflap in the trash of our apartment building when I was younger, and she gave it to me and I could not understand it for the life of me, and I doubt I would’ve even if it wasn’t for the fact it was missing pieces lmao

[@ethanhenrichs5677]

We never noticed the "stereotypes" like other folks when we were kids, but we liked the Twins. We had both ROTF Mudflap and Skids toys in the Voyager class versions.

[@Jirwemthegreat]

Personally, if by some distant chance they make Studio Series figures of these yahoos, I feel they should do what they did with SS RotF Arcee and ship both in one deluxe package. Maybe shortpack them too, if they’re sure they won’t sell well…

[@condifennex3996]

Never thought of them as stereotypes...until now that you made me realize it lol

[@thexipherino667]

I love the twins ! ... i did grow up with the Spanish version of the movie sooooo maybe that’s the why (they are more likable and fun) ... but I still like them in the English version ... I did ended up buying the original release for the twins since there’s no way they’ll get new releases... they are pretty noice.

[@sekprimer1580]

Finally, I find another person who seen the movie in spanish, I am from argentina and was a child i see the movie and like this characters, that's because they don't have a racist speech in spanish, they only have a pronunciation like they were dummies, like their are new in the war and want to help but they need more experience 😅.

[@thexipherino667]

@@sekprimer1580 Exactly ! Since I’m from Puerto Rico I’ll always will love the Spanish version of Skidz and Mudflap waaay better.

[@yake2685]

Si wey no mames, a los único que les importan esas mmdas son a los que hablan inglés, acá ni en pedo. Además muchos eramos morrillos y nos valía riata todo eso, todo se resumía en prime con música de Linkin park de fondo

[@sekprimer1580]

@@yake2685 sep, yo me esperaba re-encontrarme con los personajes en Dotm, pero cuando obtuve el CD de la película descubrí que no aparecían, ya después me enteré de los cómics y como estos morían a manos de Sentinel Prime 😔

[@thexipherino667]

@@yake2685 Exacto ! Los gringos woke son muy frágiles ... se ofenden con todo y por todo ! Solo mira el estado en el que están ...

[@Cyber_Horse_Studios87]

Honestly I would LOVE a studio series version of their ice cream truck form. Heck I had the DOTM version of skids and I loved it despite its flaws! It would be a joy to see figures of the two again, regardless of the history.

[@dipsyteletubbie770]

I have the original ice cream truck twins and they are spectacular figures and I love them but most of the time I keep them in the ice cream truck mode fsr

[@hitorouchiha4373]

I loved them as a kid I member one guy in school had the Human Alliance toy and we were stumped on how to transform it. Still a cool character. I think the characteristics on the Twins were meant to be satire in the same way All In the Family and Boondocks were. But people were understandably upset. I do wish we could get some modern toys though

[@gaminuz0191]

Studio series skids and mudflap are as real as my wife and kids

[@EuanEchidhog]

I'm okay with the characters, but I can understand why others aren't thrilled by them. I do own their original deluxe toys as well as the Ice Cream truck (though wished I bought the DOTM toys back then). Do hope one day Hasbro will make Studio Series versions of them at some point, especially with their Ice Cream truck alt mode.

[@ultimateblaze23]

so you're okay with racism?

[@frankhorriganfromfallout2]

@@ultimateblaze23he may just not have noticed. Calm down

[@zuttoaragi8349]

​@@ultimateblaze23As St. Anita said. "Everything is racist, everything is sexist, everything is homophobic. And you have to point it all out." You're doing a good job at that dumbass.

[@geagenesismaria7379]

I want them so much for SS. If not, well...the only option I see is buy the Devil Savior Scrapper and get this 2 little guys. For me, it will be worth it

[@unoriginalguy_]

When I was a kid, devastator was my favorite character from these movies. I was obsessed with completing the character list from that devastator scene. I had Mudflap and devy from that original ROTF line, and I still remember the day I got skids to complete the scene. I'm still holding out hope for ss versions of these figures after the ss devastator got completed. I'd love to have an updated version of the character and bring back all those nostalgic feelings.

[@robowarrior369]

Hasbro and Mark can't stop the internet :)

[@jimblojo]

it seems kinda stupid that hasbro would include brains and wheelie in the ss shockwave (both characters had perverted scenes which i think a lot of people overlook). it would be really cool to see the twins finally get the ss treatment but i doubt its ever going to happen even if they did a legacy bayverse line. even if they didnt sell well the few people that actually understood why they were like it/enjoyed the characters would buy them, its not much sales but at least let us finish our collection. same goes for q/wheeljack its like hasbro just straight up forgot about bro. hopefully some 3rd party company will make ss scaled twins like baiwei or some others (ik unique toys released them but those only scale with the mpm figures).

[@pouse4]

One thing I loved about the DOTM figures, Skids & Mudflap had completely different molds. Hasbro could of been cheap and made them same, just changed the head and colors, but no they were completely different figures.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

They had different alt modes so it would have been pretty obvious if they had done that. I still find it weird that Mudflap's toy robot mode looks more like the robot mode for the ice cream truck form than his actual on-screen robot mode as a car.

[@fredbitproductions347]

​@@OtakuUnitedStudio I think in DOTM they had the same alt mode

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

@@fredbitproductions347 They did, and that figure sucked even worse. They were supposed to show up in the movie but got cut. They were supposed to die instead of Ironhide in a heroic, character redeeming last stand while Ironhide escaped.

[@MicronOnline]

Its a crime the Ice cream Van idea hasn't been explored for a different Pair. like its sucha unique idea!!

[@DarkCybertronProductions]

Awesome review I got the DOTM skids and Mudflap toys back in 2017 at my first bottom and I still like them. If hasbro ever does release them into studies series thru put have them as the ice cream form but maybe change the heads a bit

[@DragoonMS]

Dunno about better (I have the DotM Mudflap), but I think that since they do fall in line with what I call "The Great Shrinkdown of 2011", the DotM versions should at least scale with the rest of Studio Series...if they're the same height as the Studio Series Sideswipe molds.

[@NezarecFGOP]

I actually liked the twins. Also i have this figure and have kept it in vehicle mode mainly because i can't be bothered with the transformation

[@jkliao6486]

My guess is the reason most people want a studio series twins is because they want the ice-cream truck combiner. They are just really ugly, with some uninspired alt-modes that nobody cares. Like who watched the move and think, yeah, I want myself a green chevy spark?

[@likeits1985]

That mispack of Not Ironhide and Bonecrusher might be worth a lot MISB. Some collectors go after packaging errors like that.

[@misternathanfowlkes]

Finally some hate for this figure😂 I have him and was shocked to see the only reviews online were mostly from 2009 and mostly positive

[@misternathanfowlkes]

And none of them showed how to transform him!

[@Autobot_Sebastian]

0:58 I have that same Subaru hotwheel

[@sebgaming4667]

Personally, I love the alt modes. That's it. The robot mode looks like a car threw up on them and the face, god I hate the face. But the alt mode looks amazing! I would love to have a vaguely similar person have this alt mode, with a completely redesigned face and overhauled personality

[@waynesoon0101]

For the longest time i had no idea the twins were controversial nor did i get the racist annotations in rotf i always liked them.

[@faxmuchine]

If you want toys of the Twins, get the DOTM deluxes. Honestly just forget these characters.

[@Soundwavedits2012]

As a black person the twins did not offend me

[@zuttoaragi8349]

Glad to see there's people with more than two braincells in these comments.

[@BoisegangGaming]

I had the mudflap toy and my twin brother had the skids toy. Because "hey, robot twins" and we were like 9 or 10 at the time. I broke mudflap's windshield really easily and I remember being real bumbed about that.

[@glxblrt]

Cant believe they block people for THAT :D

[@ark5076]

I know people don't like them. But I wish they were in dotm. Wish ss would make them because i would get them!

[@ThatToyGuy]

If you want twins in dotm. I suggest reading the dotm book by Allan Dean Foster. It kinda redeems them and makes you feel for them and the book itself is very good (and cheap)

[@ark5076]

@@ThatToyGuy yeah I need to reed that. I already have the comic but I would like to get that book as well

[@gareto_]

I actually really liked these two just because I grew up with ROTF. I understand why their hated now that I’m an adult but the vehicle modes are still pretty cool. The only reason I wish they would make them is to make a complete collection of all the ROTF auto bots. However I do not understand why people think they’re racial stereotypes, being young I thought they were just idiots.

[@Muggingfrenchturtle]

Man i wish they revisit the "two robots combine to make 1 ice cream truck" idea someday. Its such a fun idea with a unique altmode.

[@Cdr2002]

I guess the micromaster combiner updates in Siege kinda count

[@alexzzz8446]

I used to have that one and idk what happened to it but I still have both of the twins

[@nicarm1002]

That Dragon Leader Class from The Last Knight hahaha

[@franciscopenajr3909]

1:04 How were these stereotypical? I get some hate them for looking ugly

[@redfire1186]

The fact I know very well how people despise the Twins is that one time of FB, in a Transformers group, I posted talking if the designs were very well changed into better portions, they could be like Bayverse G1-like Bumblebee and Cliffjumper, for how small they are. Boi, the many people saying "no" was insane, even if I told abour changing a lot of stuff in them.

[@chrismaturino7938]

Surprisingly as toys, both human alliances are pretty great

[@dg4545]

I think I remember Bay once stating that his favorite characters were the twins because of how they pissed people off so much. Just goes to show how much he didn't give a damn about these movies. And he's a goddamn producer still. Christ above fire him!

[@DarinBransan420]

Honestly, I didn't really care too much for the exaggerated personalities of the characters but I did really like the toys because of how much of a challenge it gave me as a kid to transform. I always took really good care of my figures and I'm glad I have the original decos of both skids and mudflap still, but I really wish they would do a studio series set of them to give them updated engineering and articulation just so I could have them for the nostalgia factor of how much I enjoyed them

[@Mullet-Mike]

Duuuude this was my first ever tf figure The memories

[@Yūma_KugaWT]

The only twins transformer I would actually have gotten is the ice cream truck version

[@myang12003]

The ice cream truck version is cooler because they combine into an ice cream truck

[@Redstonestudios707]

My first transformer was dotm mudflap. And I loved him, until I lost him. One day, I will reunite with him. AND THE GALAXY WILL PAY!

[@Galvatron_Studios]

I used to have both the ROTF Skids and Mudflap and I lost them both 2009 was a cursed year for Transformers toys for me the only one I have left from that year in Jet Blade and I cherish him luckily I found the DOTM toys

[@Redstonestudios707]

@TF Miniseries Yeah. Come to think of it, almost all of my older transformers figures were thrown away/lost, and the only one I have from that time, is dotm mechtech side swipe.

[@Galvatron_Studios]

@@Redstonestudios707 oh my god Sideswipe was a dream character of mine but I missed my chance to get the DOTM deluxe and when Studio Series was announced I immediately grabbed him off the shelf

[@Galvatron_Studios]

@@Redstonestudios707 I remember all the figures I had from 2009 ROTF Leader Class Optimus Prime (he had the energon hook swords) ROTF Shadow Command Leader Class Megatron ROTF Voyager Class Starscream ROTF Deluxe Skids and Mudflap ROTF Deluxe Lockdown HFTD Deluxe Terradive HFTD Deluxe Jet Blade I lost every single figure except Jet Blade and I honestly don’t know how

[@Redstonestudios707]

@TF Miniseries nice! Mine were: ROTF deluxe ravage. ROTF voyager Starscream. DOTM? deluxe specialist ratchet. Another DOTM deluxe I forgot. And another that broke out of the box. All gone. Except sideswipe

[@jamesbond1956]

I’m black and wasn’t even offended by the twins. Fingers crossed hasbro has the guts to make these two

[@Jetblast01]

Imagine being G1 Skids and being remembered only to be associated with this gremlin...then get a repaint in Legends in the green deco.

[@hotwheelscollector1997]

Stop complaining about everything that figure is 13 years old that is the reason why it’s so loose and I have a Tuner skids too and I find the transformation pretty simple.Also the chest is not supposed to be teansformed like that

[@shrekscousin1389]

you should make a tier list on the bayverse designs, or all the studio series that you own, I feel like that would be a fun video.

[@rynopotomas2236]

Im here for a studio series skids and mudflap....Hasbro DEWIT!

[@WyattTFdude]

The twins were easily the funniest part of the movie. I’m just not snowflake so I don’t get offended

[@MrenderboyoPrime]

Same here

[@ultimateblaze23]

that just means you're pro racism

[@demonwolf3286]

I didn't even know this figure existed (This is an edit I knew about the base figure but I never knew this version or at least repaint existed)

[@l0rdapophis]

Personally, and as a black person, didn't really care about the portrayal because of the Transformers' nature. They LITERALLY download personalities that they like and think would fit them. Look at Jazz, that man was so black I forgot he was silver, and we LOVED him. Skids and Mudflap's personalities *were* stereotypical *BUT* what people aren't saying is that people literally still act like that today. They didn't use harmful language or anything like that, they just...spoke and acted like some of my community 😅 *(Side Note: a lot of black people actually liked them and found them to be extremely funny and inclusive because 9/10 we don't receive proper if any representation in films like this. Just saying. A lot of the people complaining weren't even black and complained for us because they fancy themselves "allies" but really don't know what we want. Just saying.)*

[@calebjones4952]

Skids always seems to get the brunt of the disrespect. To most, their worst day was when they saw this booger gremlin. But for Skids? For him, it was Tuesday.

[@jordanharrington3048]

I had no idea people didn't like Skids and Mudflap until the 3rd movie came out cause that's when I got social media... I would love an SS Skids and Mudflap lol

[@DarkSoulsReject]

Anytime he falls down he's like * ded *

[@alobaymar]

*I already lost my hope for my two favorite characters to be rereleased. Bought HFTD Tuner Skids and Tuner Mudflap from Mercari. They are a bit shorter than SS Jazz, so personally I feel they scale perfect with Studio Series, wish Skids just didn't crouch down constantly but I actually started loving them more than any of the other figures!

[@waspyhhh9225]

twins are legit me

[@NightmareZerogbs]

Wait WHAT? They block you if you ask about the twins???

[@PringoOrSomething]

I have skids and mud flap both ice cream truck and their separate forms and I will not take this slander as a kid his spaghetti forming nature makes him very easy to transform and is one of the lucky few that I didn’t break also big hand funny

[@barryturner2802]

Have you seen the human alliance skids and mudflap they look awesome

[@springfnafreviews7476]

The twins shoudlve just been idiots rather than stereotypes

[@harrisonwhaley7872]

Bro has the quagmire arm when he emerges from his house after beating off too much and the one arm is like a body builder arm

[@Kngmufasa]

I liked them as characters

[@michael2810]

I know you didn't like them but they look dope. Ebay prices say enough.

[@thexipherino667]

I got both the original version of the twins for like 40 bucks, used but in perfect condition. At least they aren’t ... SS 86 Grimlock level of prices ... I’m sorry for what I did to you wallet ...

[@Starsaber97]

The funny thing about rotf deluxe skids is that he does scale very well with the masterpiece mpm autobots

[@FuzzyTA11]

I never understood why the twins got flak but Drift didn't, he's even more of a stereotype

[@ark5076]

Yeah, I thought about that too

[@ALIEN-DUDE]

Because drift is cool, the twins are shit.

[@ultimateblaze23]

its not that they are stereotypes it's because they are racist, but he was too afraid to say that word

[@levi-stopmotion1148]

I'm confused honestly. I don't see how it's racist. They literally sound like a lot of black comedic actors. Madea, Big Momma's House. They sound like skids and them. That's Hollywood's doing. Why do our feisty brothers gotta get smacked by the politically correct hammer?!

[@Cyberia-Girl]

​@@levi-stopmotion1148 because they were designed and exist purely to mock black people, the movie would have been fine without them, they added nothing but thinly veiled racism under 'xD quirky black robots' drift was a stereotype sure, but at least he was designed around samurai culture, rather than trying to mock Japanese people

[@blazzin42]

I think they should attempt a core class version of them to go with devy

[@Ripdevilking]

It doesn't suck you just don't understand how the pain felt skids and mudflap

[@drewo.127]

Even if it’s not these characters specifically, I really hope that the general concept of a ice cream truck combiner makes a return in the future! If anything, I want another ice cream truck Autobot!

[@TheGhost-rp3ko]

Let's raid Hasbro like we did Area 51 and force em to make Skids and Mudflap

[@BryanChumbers]

You are so right I’m glad I did not get this

[@goldarnit]

The ice-cream truck toy was pretty interesting at least.

[@shadofett7495]

no matter what I still love the twins. their fights are kinda like how me and my brother fight

[@zixise]

"Why haven't these HORRIBLY racist characters been re-released yet?!"

[@thacarlitoway372]

Except that’s not the case, the creation of these characters was to poke fun at wanna be gangsters. One of the voice actors for the character said so himself.

[@zixise]

@thacarlitoway372 no offense, but that just sounds like weak cope to me.

[@kubawilk1304]

I love that in Polish dubbing they were made as "dres" subculture members. And even in English I find them more like Dres than anything less.

[@Kyle-goalby]

That's a awesome collection of transformers figures

[@stealth_studios]

Hes probably not in studio series because some people or offended by the ay they were in the movie.

[@zuttoaragi8349]

That's exactly it. And because Hasbro is so obsessed with being PC nowadays. To the point they're making nonbinary characters.

[@reggislowgas993]

Huh I never knew people hated the twins because of being stereotypes till now. I always thought people just found them annoying and no more

[@emeraldphoenix5868]

The fact that Skids and Mudflap didn't get the SS treatment is Criminal.

[@greenguy6787]

The only thing I like about movie Skids; it's green. If they could re-release Legacy Skids in movie Skid's and Mudflap's colors I would totally get that.

[@aladdinsane5925]

If Takara made a cartoon accurate version would he be Tooner Skids?

[@pantherbrix2464]

I know people don’t like em, but I think studio series versions would still be worth it. As they are needed to complete the ROTF crew, with a lot of work they could pull off something amazing for em unlike Crankcase or WW2 Bumblebee and Hot rod. Whether or not they would actually put in the work is a whole other question, considering the faults on so many of em already. (Lack of weapons, wrong appearance, too much backpack, bad robot or vehicle modes, lack of possibility, ect)

[@kymerahYT]

I love both Mudflap and Skids ROTF figures, only downsides I have are Skids’ mid-shin joints are loose on mine and Mudflap being a hunch-back; solved by removing the missile storage by unscrewing. Correction: the LOUD majority of people ONLINE thought they were insensitive. Kids at the time; the audience, LOVED them. People online tend to think they’re the only ones that exist as an audience, for every one person that is screaming online, there are thousands who don’t post online, keep to themselves and move on with their lives. Not everyone smacks their comments online, in fact, the extreme minority do.

[@j-sant-animations8105]

I had no idea the back junk can fold that way, I’ve always kept mine in the hooded configuration (Huffer style). He currently sits in the corner of my closet cuz almost everything is loose and all screws and pins have rusted so no fixing potential exists

[@tiny_dinosaur2946]

you know whats scarier than those hinges 4 words [halo two sniper jackle]

[@Micah.Lau.navi.]

I honestly think the color scheme and some parts of the design are pretty good (E.G, the giant left arm). I honestly wish for a design that is a combination of this and the G1 Skids