Why I Am A Lolita: The Modern, Modest Japanese Subculture

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@ashyk5230
@ashyk5230 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a Lolita and reading this comment section I think people really don't understand the fashion. It's a fashion. It's not a crazy anime thing. Just like punk fashion or vintage fashion.
@berniewonton1872
@berniewonton1872 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the fashion! It’s gorgeous and so detailed.
@pomada17
@pomada17 5 жыл бұрын
Vestir muñecas es una adicción así como la lucha libre par los hombres, hasta mis mascotas aunque sean tiernas se agarran a shingazos 😇 aunque sean adultas, yo mismo asistí a una fiesta de anime, aunque el transporte público fue un infierno 😁
@audreys8739
@audreys8739 4 жыл бұрын
@@berniewonton1872 it is! the details are TO DIE FOR
@kawaiimagicalex5170
@kawaiimagicalex5170 4 жыл бұрын
i'm lolita too
@sallyenki4440
@sallyenki4440 2 жыл бұрын
I dont understand why its called japanese fashion when its just a little modernized version of old european clothes 🤔
@emmamelton6542
@emmamelton6542 7 жыл бұрын
I made the previous comment on this video 3 1/2 years ago when i was 14, and i made some incorrect and statements about the clothing 1. My original statement that they should be allowed to wear things like this without any hate or judgement because fashion isn’t a make or break to someone’s personality still stands 2. To correct myself, the dresses are not doll dresses, they’re victorian era inspired dresses and referring to lolita as “living doll” is inaccurate and patronizing.
@wonderlandartwork3579
@wonderlandartwork3579 7 жыл бұрын
Emma Melton it's...not a doll dress.
@KomaedasOneTrueHope
@KomaedasOneTrueHope 5 жыл бұрын
It isn't a doll dress...the dress is based on Victorian Style dresses from the Victorian and Rococo Eras in Europe
@SillyBunny05
@SillyBunny05 5 жыл бұрын
Not doll dresses
@bugfairy
@bugfairy 4 жыл бұрын
please don’t address the dresses as doll dresses
@emmamelton6542
@emmamelton6542 4 жыл бұрын
kikkinn I commented this when i was 14 and not educated on the subject entirely, i’ve edited my original statement :)
@WeiYinChan
@WeiYinChan 7 жыл бұрын
Some people just like fancy fluffy dresses with lots of laces on them. Is that a crime? Get a life already. Don't know why so many people have a problem with fashion.
@dreamheart5892
@dreamheart5892 8 ай бұрын
It's because they want all women to put their boobs and butt on display for men. Lolita is about women being their true self and society don't like losing their slaves
@LadyKiramay
@LadyKiramay 7 жыл бұрын
It's really sweet to see people talking about a hobby or lifestyle that they really enjoy, or that they're very passionate about.
@jordanmillon8904
@jordanmillon8904 7 жыл бұрын
very true, it's just disheartening when you see people shit on it.
@healinggrounds19
@healinggrounds19 7 жыл бұрын
Right? I am not a Lolita but these people are cool.
@olinabeautii
@olinabeautii 7 жыл бұрын
People like this get called 'crazy' and 'weird', Yet girls like "Cash me ousside how bow dah" are celebrated! World is messed up...
@rachelhartjes313
@rachelhartjes313 6 жыл бұрын
Amen lol
@rachelhartjes313
@rachelhartjes313 6 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏
@fukushimadaiichi9622
@fukushimadaiichi9622 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's cute and very elegant.
@KomaedasOneTrueHope
@KomaedasOneTrueHope 5 жыл бұрын
@rocket grunt this isn't bad...i like the Lolita fashion. And it is based on Victorian and Rococo era dresses.....
@lilmanjp
@lilmanjp 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@alpal6461
@alpal6461 7 жыл бұрын
this is such a pure video its women doing somthing that makes them feel comforable, and pretty it helps their confidence and it isnt hurting anyone.
@Mrpringles1213
@Mrpringles1213 7 жыл бұрын
"HOW DARE PEOPLE LIKE SOMETHING THAT MAKES THEM HAPPY" -all these dudes.
@jacks2606
@jacks2606 7 жыл бұрын
Mr. Pringles stop being a keyboard warrior XD all he is saying that we should have nuked them more then twice
@RH-vd3yu
@RH-vd3yu 7 жыл бұрын
Jack Scott why are you republicans so angry all the time?
@jacks2606
@jacks2606 7 жыл бұрын
Storm Tr00per I'm not a republican and I'm the angry one , have you read the other comments xD
@fironfiron8843
@fironfiron8843 6 жыл бұрын
Denial: They are only good as fapping materials. Anger: THESE PEOPLE ARE PEDO AND MUST BE HANGED REEE Bargaining : Well some are good people Depression: I have an erectile dysfunction and my GF left me for a black guy...All I have is my waifu Acceptance: I was being a douche over a silly fashion
@4rifr0mthe3nd
@4rifr0mthe3nd 3 ай бұрын
​@@RH-vd3yu not you making it political 😂😂😂
@frozeneternity93
@frozeneternity93 7 жыл бұрын
I have a friend that is into this. She customises her outfits, shops for wigs and attends the tea parties. From what I understand this video is a pretty accurate reflection of the sub culture. It is not sexual and it is about experiencing that "simpler time" and expressing ones self creatively through clothing. The communities are very close knit and supportive of each other. I personally have never wanted to take put in her interest as I find it indulgent and wasteful (all that effort and money put into something that is not essential), but then again I am sure there are people that think the same of some of my hobbies. To each his own. As long as its not hurting anyone then why care what people do in their free time.
@carlyg9300
@carlyg9300 7 жыл бұрын
FrozenEternity iiii
@alejaboo1984
@alejaboo1984 6 жыл бұрын
FrozenEternity I
@milkmancatcher1996
@milkmancatcher1996 4 жыл бұрын
There's cheaper options that cost as much as everyday clothes and outfits
@digitalmeta33
@digitalmeta33 7 жыл бұрын
If their having fun and not hurting anyone. Let them be
@shadowprincess9817
@shadowprincess9817 7 жыл бұрын
that's the point, most people don't like when others have fun in "strange" ways, for them what they don't like/ understand is by default "bad" and "wrong"...
@clockmaister
@clockmaister 7 жыл бұрын
they're*
@IXcircle
@IXcircle 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was a missed opportunity.
@GarrySkipPerkins
@GarrySkipPerkins 7 жыл бұрын
I love this. It is wonderful. No drugs, no danger, just good clean fun.
@gen-zhippie2203
@gen-zhippie2203 7 жыл бұрын
I agree this is honestly just really cute.
@andy56duky
@andy56duky 7 жыл бұрын
Garry Perkins then someone comes in and ruins it for everyone.
@CigarKing420
@CigarKing420 7 жыл бұрын
smoking a fat blunt is good clean fun too as far as im concerned better then doing crazy ass shit like this thats for sure
@Andrew-wi2qg
@Andrew-wi2qg 7 жыл бұрын
Hahaha Im fuckin dead
@xXGhostChuyXx
@xXGhostChuyXx 7 жыл бұрын
Doing this with cocaine can sure be 10 times better.
@petergugganig3225
@petergugganig3225 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like they are just having a good time.
@flowerpower2082
@flowerpower2082 7 жыл бұрын
Peter Gugganig I think so too!
@leahpatts6007
@leahpatts6007 7 жыл бұрын
Peter Gugganig Agreed
@SUPERGENKI
@SUPERGENKI 7 жыл бұрын
Trump is pro-lolita, which is why I would vote for him.... if I could.
@SUPERGENKI
@SUPERGENKI 7 жыл бұрын
Peace be upon the great prophet.
@finalform11
@finalform11 7 жыл бұрын
having a good time and doing nothing wrong.
@Doctorandergraun
@Doctorandergraun 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating how people hate on people doing their thing with no harm to anybody, just enjoying themselves however they fucking want. So this shows how rotten our Society is. Kudos to all those individuals that feel free to enjoy life no matter what.
@boysgenius
@boysgenius 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe this is slightly cringe worthy, but it's really sweet. They enjoy this thing and it's literally doing no harm at all, it's making them happy. You're honestly so gross if you came here just to dislike the video or be rude in the comments.
@taiefmiah
@taiefmiah 7 жыл бұрын
jackson henry they probably didn't watch it because they assumed it would be the actual paedophilia Lolita subculture. which is understandable.
@OAmoretNoctis1Izzy
@OAmoretNoctis1Izzy 7 жыл бұрын
jackson henry +
@boysgenius
@boysgenius 7 жыл бұрын
Tim Maybe a little more than slightly. Cut 'me some slack.
@xAA7
@xAA7 7 жыл бұрын
I find it very cringe but it's nice that outcasts find friends =)
@donaldmiles9322
@donaldmiles9322 7 жыл бұрын
jackson henry ?
@dies__irae
@dies__irae 7 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad lolita is still as popular as it used to be! Growing up, I always wanted to try it out but it's so expensive lol. Hopefully I still can someday!
@wonderlandartwork3579
@wonderlandartwork3579 7 жыл бұрын
If you want some cheaper dresses, look on Taobao or Bodyline ^^
@SheerGlade
@SheerGlade 7 жыл бұрын
sorry i'm seven months late but you can get really good quality brand dresses secondhand on lace market and like Wonderland Artwork said, there is also bodyline and taobao, and even taobao resellers like Clobba and Glitzy Wonderland if you aren't comfortable using a shopping service ^^ you truly can put together a great coordinate for a lot less money than you'd think; take it from someone who has only been a part of the fashion for a year now
@fironfiron8843
@fironfiron8843 6 жыл бұрын
OR OR OR You can make it from scratch I know some people who handmade their cosplays O_O Don't know how
@FlowerEmblem
@FlowerEmblem 6 жыл бұрын
Furbyy I've seen it grow more in my city (Vancouver, Canada) in the past few years tbh. One part of it is probably because there's been more Taobao dress sellers and there's a strong Chinese and cosplay community here - basically more people are comfortable with buying off Taobao.
@autumnbreeze_official
@autumnbreeze_official 5 жыл бұрын
@adrianna I think it was just an example
@UberOwl
@UberOwl 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone else having the same train of thoughts as me? - Why does this video have so many dislikes? - Let me check the comments - Bunch of comments about hateful comments - Looking for said hateful comments - Not being able to find them - Wondering what they are/were about
@CowLaser
@CowLaser 7 жыл бұрын
suppressed by the channel. wait for this one to be deleted as well.
@一条咸鱼-g7s
@一条咸鱼-g7s 7 жыл бұрын
im a Chinese, as i know, Lolita is very popular in China and Japan. one of my friends is a Lolita. Lolita has many styles. they are so sweet and cute.
@秋山さら-v5f
@秋山さら-v5f 7 жыл бұрын
y'all are so sensitive lmao, it's literally just a fashion style that they like enough for it to become their hobby
@trumanshow4863
@trumanshow4863 7 жыл бұрын
Sara Park I know this. Yet I still disliked the video. I have my opinion you have yours
@aus-li
@aus-li 7 жыл бұрын
Sara Park Meh, the anime shows that have this "style" are still trash.
@秋山さら-v5f
@秋山さら-v5f 7 жыл бұрын
i also think this style is embarrassing af but there is a difference between attacking what they like and attacking them personally (calling them degenerates and such~) these girls spent most of the time talking about their insecurities and the bullying that they have experienced that has led them to this subculture and i think it's really easy to understand what is going on with them~~ everyone can say incredibly horrible things to anyone, of course, but the comments attacking them personally are a lot more harmful to others (especially if they read any of them~) than anything they're doing^ tl;dr don't be so mean y'all, it's not cute
@aus-li
@aus-li 7 жыл бұрын
Sara Park I think it's pretty cool, but I'd prefer the goth fashion. Honestly, they will look back at this video in the future, and realize how awkward they looked.
@秋山さら-v5f
@秋山さら-v5f 7 жыл бұрын
VoidX yes~ don't we all! dear god i used to have snakebites 🙈 i'm just sure that being called retarded or degenerate is something that will be hurtful both now and anytime they look back on it~~ people are too quick about being mean online (obviously it happens considering how anon it is) but it's good to have compassion and good judgment everywhere you say things, not just irl~~
@elizaw.4768
@elizaw.4768 7 жыл бұрын
I have been into lolita fashion for close to four years now, and I am very happy to see this small documentary, as it is unbiased and beautiful. However, the comments are a bit of a different story. Therefore, I feel obligated to explain a few simple things about the lolita fashion. Though the fashion itself did start in Japan it has its inspiration in Victorian and Rococo young ladies fashion, and has nothing to do with anime, and to call a lolita a weaboo is just simply being uninformed and biased. People who bring anime into lolita fashion are often considered novices, or are just plain insulted by crueler members of the community, and there are several lolitas that do not watch anime, or even have interest in anything that is stereotypically related to Japan. Secondly, lolita has nothing to do with fetishes of any type or pedophilia. The fashion can even be considered a type of cute, innocent rebellion upon people saying that someone can not be beautiful without being sexualized, as it puts great emphasis on modesty and elegance, as it is considered daring to even show a collar bone or your knees, and very taboo to show your thighs or breasts. We are well aware of the connotation of the name, but we can assure it is by pure coincidence. Lolita is an actual girls name that has been tainted by the novel, and it is widely accepted that the name was popularized by Mana, of the now defunct band Malice Mizer, as it was beautiful and feminine. Lolita was built to be a very innocent and elegant fashion, a standard which it holds up today, and though it is not for everyone, it is generally harmless and I much more than what most assume of it.
@SADIE_Maybe_SADISTIC
@SADIE_Maybe_SADISTIC 4 жыл бұрын
....
@kawaiimagicalex5170
@kawaiimagicalex5170 Жыл бұрын
eliza i agree so much with you.
@Melly16yr10
@Melly16yr10 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation 😃
@MichalOcilka
@MichalOcilka 7 жыл бұрын
How dare you not interviewing that one guy?!? That was such a wow moment when he apeared
@MystiaSkye
@MystiaSkye 7 жыл бұрын
they did a written interview together on vice, check the website. :)
@MichalOcilka
@MichalOcilka 7 жыл бұрын
huh took me a while to find it. I had to look up the term "brolita" instead of lolita
@iiFallenWish
@iiFallenWish 7 жыл бұрын
Michal Ocilka Why would they interview him? He's a gay guy dressing like a girl he wouldn't have said anything different
@martinmendiolamm
@martinmendiolamm 7 жыл бұрын
That part surprised me a lot he came out of no where 😂
@emmyee3455
@emmyee3455 7 жыл бұрын
I actually really liked how they treated him like it was no big deal. Seems like a pretty chill community.
@Candyrock15
@Candyrock15 7 жыл бұрын
I think the name lolita is unfortunate lmfaoo. people tend to associate the fashion to the book. the fashion, while sharing the same name, is compleeeetly different to the themes in the book. the community makes it clear that they dont want people who are into the fashion because they confused it for a weird fetish.
@narutoroleplayinthewoodsat5852
@narutoroleplayinthewoodsat5852 6 жыл бұрын
heythere! that's actually a common misconception, lolita fashion did not derive its name from the book.
@rokurosecake
@rokurosecake 6 жыл бұрын
In the community it's often called egl or rori instead of lolita
@rachelhartjes313
@rachelhartjes313 6 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the exact same thing. If the name was not associated with pedophilia because of the book, then those who enjoy expressing themselves this way wouldn't be criticized in that way. It's very obviously not what they're going for! Wonder why it does have that name put to it. ...if anyone knows, please let me know! Lol
@rokurosecake
@rokurosecake 6 жыл бұрын
@@rachelhartjes313 in Japan, where the fashion comes from, the book/film lolita isn't popular
@autumnbreeze_official
@autumnbreeze_official 5 жыл бұрын
This is why it is also called EGL (Elegant Gothic Lolita)
@atracor
@atracor 7 жыл бұрын
what the people assume in the comment section is weirder than what is happening in the video. They are just dressing up.
@taiefmiah
@taiefmiah 7 жыл бұрын
Atracor it has the word Lolita in it and Japanese subculture. people assume other things and don't watch the video because they are thinking of the standard Lolita subculture, which is about paedophilia.
@spacetoaster7
@spacetoaster7 7 жыл бұрын
taief miah i wouldn't exactly call that the standard, maybe the stereotypical
@ieatbootie
@ieatbootie 7 жыл бұрын
weeb
@llgla
@llgla 7 жыл бұрын
It's sad that there are people who think dressing that way attracts pedophiles. God smh. By that logic, people should never wear swim suits cos that might attract sex perverts **roll eyes**.
@aestheticgarbage6671
@aestheticgarbage6671 7 жыл бұрын
They're not dressing up. It's a fashion style, not a costume. Lol
@angiebbiii
@angiebbiii 7 жыл бұрын
This is such a sweet video. I don't understand how some people found it sexual in any way. They literally cover up everything. That one cute lolita guy made me feel happy af. I wish VICE interviewed him as well. Im glad they're all doing what they love and staying happy. fuck off negative comments.
@Shimakaze2487
@Shimakaze2487 7 жыл бұрын
they did interview the guy but it's in written form
@TeomanKarakaya
@TeomanKarakaya 7 жыл бұрын
I see more comments about the bad comments than the actual comments
@e.l.a5455
@e.l.a5455 7 жыл бұрын
according to the dislikes I assume many people misunderstood this video I have been into lolita fashion some years ago and it has zero sexual meaning to it regardless the name it's just the admiration for renaissance style mixed with cute fashion and these lolita dresses have so many beautiful little details that's why they cost hundred of dollars
@shadowprincess9817
@shadowprincess9817 7 жыл бұрын
it doesn't matter unfortunatly, if ONE idiot says something bad tons more will agree without even uderstanding what they talk about...
@spurs_7798
@spurs_7798 7 жыл бұрын
Seems like a lot of people doesnt watch the video before writing comments..
@Mor4dracoRules
@Mor4dracoRules 7 жыл бұрын
Spurs_ Its Vice we know its shit
@spacetoaster7
@spacetoaster7 7 жыл бұрын
Spurs_ then why are you subbed / clicking on the video lmao?
@killercaos123
@killercaos123 7 жыл бұрын
Optimism that one day Vice will be good again? It's either hope or hate...... who knows.
@spacetoaster7
@spacetoaster7 7 жыл бұрын
killercaos123 i'd hope for "hope", but i'd bet on "hate," considering it's like this on any kind of video they put out
@leroyjenkins100
@leroyjenkins100 7 жыл бұрын
shut your fucking mouth
@coreno96
@coreno96 7 жыл бұрын
I used to hate lolitas but i think i just misunderstood what they were doing, after this video i feel silly for hating on them. They are just wearing clothes they enjoy and they arent hurting anyone
@SADIE_Maybe_SADISTIC
@SADIE_Maybe_SADISTIC 4 жыл бұрын
Why you hate them?😕
@catruso
@catruso 4 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, You still can hate lolitas for no reason..
@catruso
@catruso 3 жыл бұрын
@@shddknendjj I don't mind at all. Actually I don't hate them, I just said that @Karina V does not need to feel sorry for hating them and she could still hating them for no reason.
@brevaldez7726
@brevaldez7726 7 жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to try the fashion, but *it's so damn expensive.* A single good quality Lolita dress is $300 or more.
@_DEVILYCH
@_DEVILYCH 7 жыл бұрын
Arlinelle Soleil the fuck? you can get your brand dress secondhand for $100 in great condition and sometimes even less than $100, lurk more before complaining
@Wowzawhy
@Wowzawhy 7 жыл бұрын
Bodyline yo. It is better than most people think
@HalleyHaywirez
@HalleyHaywirez 7 жыл бұрын
Arlinelle Soleil I've bought angelic pretty for 95 before, don't come out here with that
@DireConsenquences
@DireConsenquences 7 жыл бұрын
Taobao is good for indies.
@alpacaobsessed9862
@alpacaobsessed9862 7 жыл бұрын
Bodyline has some good quality dresses for starter Lolita's and if you coord them well you'll do great! I have a unicorn dress from them that was 30 dollars and it's really good quality!
@gen-zhippie2203
@gen-zhippie2203 7 жыл бұрын
Aw you know this is honestly so cute. I love this a lot, some of the dresses are too "over the top" for something I would like to wear, but it's really nice seeing how much everyone is just enjoying themselves.
@Shimakaze2487
@Shimakaze2487 7 жыл бұрын
James Moriarty trust us there are toned down or tone downable levels to this fashion (casual Lolita), as well as what would be classified as other styles (otome Kei, larme kei, mori girl, boystyle, etc.) with the the same dresses or pieces. Most to get the most out of their wardrobe follow other style influences including 40-50-60s Americana influenced feminine styles Tea party's and themed events is usually the only time, most to/or some, go to the regal over the top levels. But how a person styles them self depends on their personality and the print or non print dress they are wearing... some can't be toned down. They were made that way.
@gen-zhippie2203
@gen-zhippie2203 7 жыл бұрын
Huh, that's cool to hear about. I'll check it out.
@PastelOddity
@PastelOddity 7 жыл бұрын
There’s literally coords called OTT (Over the Top) 😂 It’s really fun! I want a really OTT coord first
@1verte1
@1verte1 7 жыл бұрын
So many hateful comments. If you're hating people because of how they look, you really are the immature one. Seriously... Because you're dressing in a way we should do the same ? No wonder why there's so much violence in this world, with people judging and hating each other at any occasion. Get yourself a life...
@LunarCrystal07
@LunarCrystal07 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the negative comments are some knee jerk reaction that people have when they see others being different, harmless, and having a lot of fun. It's like the haters can't stand others being different and happy.
@dearmisterecho
@dearmisterecho 7 жыл бұрын
Funny thing about this comment section is Lolitas do not give 10 shits whether or not non-Lolitas approve of, are shocked by, or are interested in their hobby/lifestyle. It's such a closed off community and they are much more likely to judge each other than pay any attention to what "outsiders" say about them.
@Shadow11614
@Shadow11614 7 жыл бұрын
Sadly, im probably one of the only dudes who has this fashion as a preference for women, i just find it beautiful, and unique, sometimes it gets boring seeing just basic clothing on women everyday, i myself dress as an aristocrat and its fun
@KomaedasOneTrueHope
@KomaedasOneTrueHope 5 жыл бұрын
We don't dress for guys.....but i am glad you like the fashion
@kawaiimagicalex5170
@kawaiimagicalex5170 Ай бұрын
we dont dress for cis men. we dress we like it.
@Shadow11614
@Shadow11614 Ай бұрын
@@kawaiimagicalex5170 lol and I’ve learned that i like the Japanese community of the lolita fashion more than western…. It ain’t a feminist fashion…
@Shadow11614
@Shadow11614 Ай бұрын
@@kawaiimagicalex5170 lol and I have learned to prefer the Japanese community of the style and dislike western community….
@Shadow11614
@Shadow11614 Ай бұрын
@@kawaiimagicalex5170 well sorry to break it to you but some guys like it because they like women to be feminine and cutesy….
@hansxiaomeng4741
@hansxiaomeng4741 7 жыл бұрын
most of these people are prob. genuinely better people deep down than the trash hating on them in the comments.
@petarinabug6373
@petarinabug6373 7 жыл бұрын
all the vice bros comming and crying in the comment section about weaboos and anime because they think it gives them cool mean points, without actually watching the the video...
@Aminadujean
@Aminadujean 7 жыл бұрын
I'm happy Vice did an unbiased look at Lolita fashion :)
@dyslexist4740
@dyslexist4740 7 жыл бұрын
UNBIASED? They didn't even ask any questions.... oh wait--
@catcandy138
@catcandy138 2 жыл бұрын
As a 24/7 dress wearer (not lolita; but still), I worry I have to struggle now (and possibly forever) being single having autism and not being able to get out in the world much, worrying that my being so “girly” is somehow a curse to be weak and not have any fight in me….yet when I see videos like this one, about girls wearing frilly dresses and just valuing friendships more than love and being confident in who they are and their strength, it gives me a lot more courage to see I can just be the feminine AND strong woman I want to be :) Tomorrow is going to be a bit of a difficult day for me, possibly, so I am really glad to see a video like this one. It’s not just a video for lolitas this video is in my book; but, anyone who just wants to know you can be both tough AND pretty in this world. Both mean a lot to me. A big reason why Pikachu is my all time favourite fictional character, too :) he manages both toughness and kawaii ness 100%. That is truly a thing, dispite the world trying to tell us otherwise. This video rules! :)
@jackyrose304
@jackyrose304 7 жыл бұрын
This is so innocent and cute! Don't understand any hate that lolitas get!
@jdub5277
@jdub5277 7 жыл бұрын
Clicked on this video expecting it to be weird/offensive but it's actually sweet and endearing
@Airyu
@Airyu 7 жыл бұрын
finally a good mainstream portrayal of the fashion I've been into for so long. tysm vice
@cocoabutter1924
@cocoabutter1924 7 жыл бұрын
This wardrobe , I don't see anything wrong or weird about it. It super classy in my opinion and has an antique taste to it which makes it all the more interesting ... I would dress like this myself but these dresses are not cheap and I'm poor and so I can't .. but I would! Good for them!
@Soooooooooooonicable
@Soooooooooooonicable 7 жыл бұрын
I fucking love Chimane's look. Her style is really striking and dignified. I wish more black women had the confidence to dress dark and sophisticated like this.
@PassionateStrawberry
@PassionateStrawberry 7 жыл бұрын
My Delicious Morsel She's my favorite.
@NaruFoSho
@NaruFoSho 7 жыл бұрын
My Delicious Morsel I'm in this video and despite not having a lot of black women at this tea, we have a large number of black girls!
@zachalmighty7104
@zachalmighty7104 7 жыл бұрын
My Delicious Morsel she's female Woolie from best the best friends zaibatsu.
@TheOuroborosisbroken
@TheOuroborosisbroken 7 жыл бұрын
My Delicious Morsel it is amazing to see "older" women (as in out of their teens) waering the fashion so amazingly, I'm around her age and it makes ne think I might be able to pull it off. she's super inspiring
@dannyfitzgerald1593
@dannyfitzgerald1593 7 жыл бұрын
haha that's exactly what I first thought of as well.
@KaylaNoelle1
@KaylaNoelle1 7 жыл бұрын
The girl with the curly brown hair and big round glasses is so pretty!
@evancross9787
@evancross9787 6 жыл бұрын
For those in the comments: Lolita isn't even remotely correlated to the concept of being a Living Doll nor is it a fetish. Most Lolita's wouldn't agree with "acting the part" they are simply clothes and we are our own person in and out of the fashion. Lolita fashion is just that; no deeper or hidden meaning. It is is simply a subculture of the Kawaii movement in Japan. edit: while I'm at it, I suppose I can drop a few Informative videos by other lolitas or accurate documentaries about the fashion. Sugar Coated: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWG0hKysbdl4nck Cuteness, Escapism and Lace Monsters: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKjRnnqlmZWCp68 LOLITAS ARE NOT LIVING DOLLS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2eTnYRoj9qJpa8 Whilst these are great sources, most still inaccurately suggest that Lolita by Nabakov is pedophilic and romanticizes child exploitation. I left a comment regarding said topic under the last video source listed above but for those who are less likely to watch, ill leave it here as well. Touching on the Lolita by Nabakov subject, like any other style, the clothing came before the name; while the EGL community and the novel and or theatric depiction of the novel, share the same name, there is no correlation between the two.(and while we have no trouble differentiating the two, the general public always finds a way to twist it otherwise.) Though that is a common misconception for the EGL community, there also seems to be a prevalent misunderstanding about the influential novel. The novel Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov reflects the authors’ direct observations of American culture. (specifically Hollywood) and projects to light, the apparent obsession with the sexualization of youth and the reoccurring theme of child exploitation in and out of the private industry. Many Lolitas who were interviewed often mentioned how the fashion differed from the novel because, “we don’t seduce older men,” and or, “don’t intend to.” This further adds to the harmful stigma that Dolores was actively consenting and aware of the actions forced on her. Dolores Haze was undoubtedly a victim of child abuse and deliberate exploitation. Her character was loosely based on American child stars like Shirley Temple. Whereas Humbert was a representation of the media and culture at the time. Clegg (Christine Clegg attentively examines the critical history of Lolita through a broad range of interpretations.) follows the novel’s non-disclosure of Lolita's feelings as directly linked to the fact that her “real” name is Dolores and only Humbert refers to her as Lolita. Humbert also states he has effectively “solipsized" Lolita early in the novel. Eric Lemay writes: “The human child, the one noticed by non-nymphomaniacs, answers to other names, “Lo”, “Lola”, “Dolly”, and, least alluring of all, “Dolores”. “But in my arms,“ asserts Humbert, "she was always Lolita.” And in his arms or out, “Lolita" was always the creation of Humbert’s craven self … The Siren-like Humbert sings a song of himself, to himself, and titles that self and that song "Lolita”. … To transform Dolores into Lolita, to seal this sad adolescent within his musky self, Humbert must deny her, her humanity.“ I understand that this isn't particularly significant to those keenly interested in the style. However, I find that gaining a more proper understanding, ourselves, of the general misconceptions, aids us in addressing and explaining our fashion and the reflective novel, correctly.
@kawaiimagicalex5170
@kawaiimagicalex5170 Жыл бұрын
@Bigheartoneggshells yeah i have lolita friends they are lifestyler. i no this but wear lolita often
@seiikei
@seiikei 3 ай бұрын
literally, ppl r just dumb
@tobe4real
@tobe4real 7 жыл бұрын
It's literally just clothes... a fashion that makes people happy. People are such hypocrites when saying to be yourself but then people like faisions like this and they're suddenly hating.
@mariannenowottny1732
@mariannenowottny1732 7 жыл бұрын
These people are adorable, it's impossible not to want these girls to have their fun
@msghia5252
@msghia5252 7 жыл бұрын
No one complained about the boys LARPing video. How is this any different
@chelleery3432
@chelleery3432 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think there's anything wrong with this. They're just wearing the things that they want, and people might think that they're 'cringe' and it IS unusual than what you see in today's fashion but like, these guys are just dressing up in the outfit they want to wear and having fun without harming anybody
@robbysoaks
@robbysoaks 7 жыл бұрын
Searching for an identity that fits is a normal part of growing up. Young people often try on many different hats before they more or less find that fit that feels right for them in the long term. i say 'whatever floats your boat' and cut the youngins an extra long piece of slack.
@aliceaandrea
@aliceaandrea 5 жыл бұрын
robbysoaks Lolita is worn by mostly adults because “Youngins” can’t afford the fashion as branded dresses are between 200-500 USD. I see that your comment comes from a place of good intent but for a lot of people Lolita is a lifestyle, not a phase since it is primarily all adult women.
@mollyshadows9726
@mollyshadows9726 7 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a lolita for about five or six years now. And I have to say that this is why i joined the fashion. Outside of my family I always felt like an outsider. Through most of my life i was bullied by other girls. Then i found lolita and I wasn’t the odd one out anymore. I then started making JSK and dresses. The dresses were kinda a fail. But it inspired me to keep sewing and designing! Now I’m in college for costume design. This fashion helped changed my life along with my family’s support!
@jenniffermunoz2328
@jenniffermunoz2328 7 жыл бұрын
It's so cute seeing them happy about what they're doing and hearing them say they feel good when dressing like this :) they're just having fun and being who they are
@Stewbob112
@Stewbob112 7 жыл бұрын
This is honestly cool af. It's empowering them and helping them express themselves? Awesome af dude!!! They all seem like great people. More power to the females and males in it.
@mrs.a4564
@mrs.a4564 6 жыл бұрын
I always admire people that “go for it” whether it’s in fashion or any other form of expression. I wish I could dress like a 50s housewife and have tea parties 😕
@Shimakaze2487
@Shimakaze2487 6 жыл бұрын
Georgina you can no one is stopping you your life is your own. Start out with close friends if you are feeling anxious about strangers/new ppl ... it’s really just a group activity to enjoy each other’s company.
@KomaedasOneTrueHope
@KomaedasOneTrueHope 5 жыл бұрын
...you can dress however you want. No one is stopping you
@Thisworldisagoner
@Thisworldisagoner 7 жыл бұрын
as long as they are not hurting anyone, and well they are not, seeing them bunch up in these groups of people who love and encourage each other to grow and follow their passion, is a beautiful thing in our hard world
@getradvideo
@getradvideo 7 жыл бұрын
they aint hurting anyone let them be happy smh
@cybervamp4957
@cybervamp4957 7 жыл бұрын
Why do people hate on things that are different without trying to understand it? Smh pathetic
@shadowprincess9817
@shadowprincess9817 7 жыл бұрын
human nature, most humans prefer to hate what they don't like or understand ,as this solves the problem for them easily...
@jeddyjoo7428
@jeddyjoo7428 7 жыл бұрын
These girls seem so nice good on them for finding their niche xox
@Jahalus
@Jahalus 7 жыл бұрын
I find nothing strange here. It's essentially cosplay as a way of life. People are way too stuck-up, if they're happy wearing frou frou dresses then just let them be.
@ataraxia7439
@ataraxia7439 7 жыл бұрын
you seem reasonable
@Jahalus
@Jahalus 7 жыл бұрын
Isn't it strange that reason is an oddity nowadays?
@MrTea101
@MrTea101 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly I just find when westerners do this, its straight up cringy.
@ataraxia7439
@ataraxia7439 7 жыл бұрын
Why, though? Isn't that an unfair double standard?
@EagleZtoTheGrave
@EagleZtoTheGrave 7 жыл бұрын
Not to mention people used to dress like this back in the day. Its dope and classy.
@5EL0N3
@5EL0N3 6 жыл бұрын
A while ago I would judge people like this. But now looking at the video without thinking negative of people who clearly do things differently then what their society does, makes me feel refreshed and happy that I can learn about many people in the world. I love this.
@whateverangeltaken
@whateverangeltaken 7 жыл бұрын
The culture of Lolita is different than the book.
@SillyBunny05
@SillyBunny05 5 жыл бұрын
It has nothing to do with the book
@rubyhanna3177
@rubyhanna3177 7 жыл бұрын
When I first clicked on this i expected to cringe, but as I watched more I really find how empowered these women have become to be extremely lovely. Just because personally I wld nvr choose to dress this way, it doesnt mean it is weird
@dawnalarson5646
@dawnalarson5646 7 жыл бұрын
That pisses me off when I hear people tell these women, "You're the reason we have pedophiles." No, pedophiles are the reason we have pedophiles. It's our horrible rape culture of blaming women and men victims for the perpetrator's thoughts and actions. How about we stop shaming these women for doing what they want to feel happy.
@kawaiimagicalex5170
@kawaiimagicalex5170 Ай бұрын
i agree thank you i love this fashion.
@LainCelestine
@LainCelestine 7 жыл бұрын
Me: Wow what a nice looking docu about lolita, maybe this one will be great. First Girls:: "There is a lifestyle and you have to be polite and proper" Me: Okay nevermind (x's out of the window). Shout out to literally every lolita I know who wears lolita as a fashion and does not change their behavior or pretend to be demure because their clothing isn't cosplay.
@IkkyVlogs
@IkkyVlogs 7 жыл бұрын
Trudat. I think the "Demure and proper" attitude that newer Lolitas adopt is a misconception. I'd probably hate myself if I couldn't swear or drink while I happen to be wearing a frilly dress - most of the other veteran lolitas I know are the same.
@kokeru
@kokeru 7 жыл бұрын
While it is a misconception and most lolitas don't act proper while dressed up all the time, what she said is still true. There IS a way you're SUPPOSED to "act", mostly referencing Misako's forbidden behavior rules (probably some other Japanese models too, misako's the only one coming to mind rn) I imagine. Very few people do it tho, I agree, but in this situation aka a tea party i guess the polite and proper thing still applies.
@IkkyVlogs
@IkkyVlogs 7 жыл бұрын
But those Misako videos are satire. There are general things she does cover like pulling your petticoat under you so you don't take up like 3 seats which is common sense but overall those videos were supposed to be making fun. Going to a tea party or a nice dinner whether you're Lolita or not should be met with the appropriate manners but it's a misconception to assume that you should curb your personality and act a certain way just because you're dressed up. She mentioned that you should be "Proper" when you're in Lolita in general, not just tea parties which is just not true. Case and point: The Harajuku Angelic Pretty shop girls are regularly seen drinking, smoking and swearing when they knock off work because it's just a fashion.
@kokeru
@kokeru 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, I mean the satire comes from somewhere, as well as the misconception. The whole proper shebang kind of fit with the fashion so yeah of course people are going to think and/or expect the cute lolita to act proper, even if it's not true. I don't believe the girl int he video was trying to say that there was a way you HAD to act more that there was kind of that grey cloud of things you we're ~~supposed~~ to do, that's what I was trying to say.
@alpacaobsessed9862
@alpacaobsessed9862 7 жыл бұрын
When I first found Lolita I thought I had to be polite and sweet but I swear like a sailor and have a vulgar and dark sense of humor. nowadays I wear Lolita and I haven't changed a bit!
@Toyon95
@Toyon95 6 жыл бұрын
I don't wear lolita- but I really like the aesthetic and how it is about the fashion- not about the appeal of the person wearing it. These girls and boys are expressing their personalities though what they wear.
@kylepasta
@kylepasta 7 жыл бұрын
Why the dislikes? Bitches been playing dress up since the beginning of time, calm down guys.
@beyondnames6442
@beyondnames6442 7 жыл бұрын
Kyle Pasta Vice is about drugs and war shit not bitches being bitches
@flawkolopez6565
@flawkolopez6565 7 жыл бұрын
Kyle Pasta And all the hate in the comments is just strange. A few socially awkward women (the few in the vid, not every Lolita girl) found a little dress up/subculture where they can make friends. What's the big deal? Is it the name that's pissing people off?
@taiefmiah
@taiefmiah 7 жыл бұрын
because it has the word Lolita. the connotations of that word is what gets to people. these people take the word out of it's usual context, but you can't really see that from the title.
@simzocker
@simzocker 7 жыл бұрын
+Beyond Names Vice is about reporting stuff nobody reports you moron.
@breeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
@breeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. 7 жыл бұрын
Kyle Pasta I think it's because "Lolita" is typically associated with a very twisted story. Perhaps they saw the title and hit dislike. That, or they were disappointed with the video lol
@mamirola
@mamirola 7 жыл бұрын
dont see anything wrong with this. pretty awesome actually
@escalatormacet
@escalatormacet 5 жыл бұрын
they're just a bunch of people who have the same interest and are expressing it in a very healthy manner, i dont get why some people would shit on them
@maddyhannah6214
@maddyhannah6214 7 жыл бұрын
This is so cute, I like how supportive they all are of each other and how they strive for good manners and politeness
@larsstoerloes6619
@larsstoerloes6619 7 жыл бұрын
This was fun. Great to see a more diverse group of lolitas. I'm not really into this niche of fashion myself, but I do have respect for the principles and the craftsmanship that goes into it. These people are not hurting anyone, I say let them enjoy what they enjoy. How someone else chooses to dress are NONE of my business anyway. Have fun with it and do it for yourself rather than dressing for someone else.
@slumscape
@slumscape 6 жыл бұрын
wow the first girl when she gets dressed up and puts on that makeup, something about her face looks legitimately like a princess... her eyes and the shape of her face is exactly how I imagine a princess in a fairytale to look lol
@PastelOddity
@PastelOddity 7 жыл бұрын
I’m SO excited to put together my very first coord this coming week! 😁❤️
@Shimakaze2487
@Shimakaze2487 7 жыл бұрын
congratulations!
@Phutu_re
@Phutu_re 3 жыл бұрын
I really like this documentary. Thanks Vice for publishing such quality content.
@HelenaBunzy
@HelenaBunzy 7 жыл бұрын
Why all the dislikes?! It's just for fun and artistic expression, nothing bad about it... It's not about the japanese culture or anything, yes it's origin is from japan, but what matters is just the style and the fun about dressing and feeling like a princess or just pretty... and not for others but for yourself... and It brings different girls/women together.... 2017 should be more about being kind and understanding to others, not bringing down everything you don't understand... ohwell...
@Donkkkky
@Donkkkky 7 жыл бұрын
I don't get why there are so many dislikes if this is what makes them happy then let them be happy, They are not hurting anybody with doing this right?
@bunnibabie3719
@bunnibabie3719 7 жыл бұрын
there is a real "Lolita" fashion based off of the fashion worn by the girl in the movie and its called nymphet fashion. This Lolita is something completely different, they look nothing like the little girl in the movie it all.
@aestheticgarbage6671
@aestheticgarbage6671 7 жыл бұрын
That's because it has jack shit to do with the book. They explained where the fashion came from, did you even watch the video?
@batty_kitsuofhorrorchildst
@batty_kitsuofhorrorchildst 7 жыл бұрын
They just said this is a fashion trend originated from Japan 😏
@bunnibabie3719
@bunnibabie3719 6 жыл бұрын
idk why it didn't notify I got replies on this comment but yes I know about Lolita, I even own some stuff from angelic pretty, a Lolita brand. Lolita fashion has nothing to do with that book but, I just wanted to say that yes there is a real fashion about recreating the girls look from the movie. Its called nymphet and this a youtuber who wears it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYjLf2emlNl4Y8U.
@vortexofself
@vortexofself 7 жыл бұрын
Chimane is gorgeous!!! And I was so happy that they treated the person who sounded male just like part of the group. No one, not even Vice, made it a big deal. They aren’t hurting anyone and they’re making people feel good and accepted. They’re happy! I love it 💖
@otrocaffe
@otrocaffe 7 жыл бұрын
Fat, skinny, white, black, girls, boys... If you think of it, Lolitas only care about looks but no-one seems to care about the other to critizise. No-one is saying "Uhm... Your face is already too round to put a bonnet around it, you should try this or that instead", which is what fashion industry is always telling us to do: "If your body is like this or your complexion like that, you can ONLY wear this or that;" Lolitas don't. Everyone can wear everything. Maybe we should learn a bit about them, at least in that sense. It's fucking 21st century, after all.
@selena9932
@selena9932 7 жыл бұрын
Anyway how about the beautiful music accompanying at the end?? What a wonderful rendition of lascia ch'io pianga
@selena9932
@selena9932 7 жыл бұрын
The music has an even greater meaning when regarding it along with the video. Lascia ch'io pianga Mia cruda sorte, E che sospiri La libertà. Let me weep My cruel fate, And that I should have freedom.
@midnightssun8495
@midnightssun8495 6 жыл бұрын
As long as it isn’t illegal or hurting anyone I couldn’t give less of a shit, it looks cute and y’all seem to enjoy it, why do people have problems with it?
@Tree6ixGaming
@Tree6ixGaming 7 жыл бұрын
wht this is in Toronto? .. I wanna come..
@PastelOddity
@PastelOddity 7 жыл бұрын
#Smile Gaming There are probably tons of Lolita groups in Toronto!
@LilyoftheValleyUTAU
@LilyoftheValleyUTAU 7 жыл бұрын
It is! We're called the "Southern Ontario Lolita Community." As far as I know we're the only one.
@leoespinosa1061
@leoespinosa1061 5 жыл бұрын
They have a large group of lolitas in toronto!
@swampghost8271
@swampghost8271 7 жыл бұрын
This is sweet, all of them look cute
@queky3434
@queky3434 4 жыл бұрын
as a lolita most of these comments make me feel very happy, and a lot more comfortable dressing this way
@Arz2003
@Arz2003 7 жыл бұрын
People that judge should check themselves first before anything
@dnsoulx
@dnsoulx 5 жыл бұрын
it's so expensive to dress as a lolita, like unless you go to a thrift store for dresses or something, a skirt or blouse could be like 80-300+
@earthxxearth
@earthxxearth 5 жыл бұрын
dnsoulx there are stores that sell them for good prices
@Shimakaze2487
@Shimakaze2487 4 жыл бұрын
There's the second-hand market a lot of lolita keep stuff in impeccable condition, there are the lucky pack sales, and Taobao brands that have some beautiful designs when it comes to the cash mone resources the best thing to do is budget it out. See something you like or have something in ming just put aside a bit each month for it a lot of themes repeat, so if you're looking for things that maybe have a deer theme associated with it mid-summer through fall/ July-nov is when you will see releases like that. getting the most coveted dresses can be stressful AF. Taobao resellers or secondhand sales are groovy. or learning how to use Taobao. Some styles of blouses you can find in thrift stores or other.
@otahime5799
@otahime5799 7 жыл бұрын
fawning over their coords :'D super jealous
@prowlandsasuke
@prowlandsasuke 5 жыл бұрын
So everyone here knows lolita has nothing to do with the book lolita. Those that named the fashion in Japan were not really that aware of the book because it wasn't that popular in japan. They name lolita because they thought it was a cute name.
@moviemakeriphone
@moviemakeriphone 7 жыл бұрын
I wish they interviewed people who were not beginners. Like some bloggers who could share their insight about the community and have been in it for a while would have been a better choice.
@bonnie_gail
@bonnie_gail 7 жыл бұрын
i think it is sweet, they are not being sexual objects, they just get to have some fun, not hurting anyone
@thepotatothatbecameanarmy7938
@thepotatothatbecameanarmy7938 7 жыл бұрын
this is seriouly very cute, they just dress like that because it makes them feel pretty and thats the only thing that matters, why are people being mean about it? it just doesnt make sence, why wouldnt you want people to have confidence and love who they are????? gosh...
@rz1974
@rz1974 7 жыл бұрын
Seems like Chimane incorporates some of her lolita style into everyday wear as well, hopefully some of her friends follow her example because there is no reason to limit dressing how you want and feel to just one day a week
@dreamingmusic3299
@dreamingmusic3299 7 жыл бұрын
I'd much rather be looking at people dressed up and behaving themselves in a very civil manner than looking at thugs with their pants hanging down around their knees.
@nextichigo
@nextichigo 7 жыл бұрын
Its strange but they arent hurting anybody, guys
@ChuChild
@ChuChild 7 жыл бұрын
Ah, this makes me so happy to see since I"m a Lolita. I never see Black Lolitas like me.
@hersh23
@hersh23 7 жыл бұрын
This is why I love Vice! Constantly introducing me to things I never knew existed. I have no desire to partake in Lolita, but me being an easily intrigued person, I find this interesting. No harm done if nobody is getting hurt. :)
@khira888
@khira888 7 жыл бұрын
While I do love vice and viceland, I personally think that they should've gone into more detail about Lolita fashion. Such as controversy to its name and what the fashion is, maybe an inside look of different types of Lolita like Goth, Sweet, Classic (Doll), the male Lolita, Steampunk, Sailor, Punk, Wa Lolita etc... I know there are a lot of different terms in the Lolita community as well. (ex: Coord = Coordinate. The outfit they put together or Coordinate. Hence coord.) It would've been nice if they even explained some of the Lolita brands and the problem with Replicas... Usually vice does great things to spread awareness and get messages across, this time I feel rather confused. You've shown us a bit of the fashion and the people in it but I feel like what we saw was just a glimpse. Cute video just not vice educational.
@aloistrancy877
@aloistrancy877 7 жыл бұрын
Kian Nightengale I know right!? I enjoyed the video but I was hoping it would be a bit more detailed and informative as I'm actually hoping to get into the fashion myself.
@tangerine7068
@tangerine7068 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe they'll make another video since based off your comment, lolita does seem very vast
@JoeMoss83
@JoeMoss83 7 жыл бұрын
Strange to see many more posts complaining about negative comments than actual negative comments.
@aguilasfan96
@aguilasfan96 7 жыл бұрын
This is a woman I would date, she doesn’t give a fuck about what others think.
@shruggling
@shruggling 7 жыл бұрын
This is so cute. Too bad some people find the need to dislike before they actually watch it.
@praisethesun5800
@praisethesun5800 7 жыл бұрын
Those outfits are amazing! I'm way too lazy for that lol, I don't even wear makeup.
@hannahw2
@hannahw2 7 жыл бұрын
Whoa! It's kinda cool the Toronto Lolita community on Vice. I used to attend it awhile back, and it was really enjoyable. The girls in this community are absolute sweet-hearts. I don't dress in lolita much anymore, but the style still has a warm place in my heart. (^ ^ )
@jimmysheridan8099
@jimmysheridan8099 7 жыл бұрын
Ah, finally a beautifully pure video in the angry hateful cesspool that is KZbin
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