Why I Am Bigger Than MR BEAST - And Why is YouTube Broken

[@thespiffingbrit]

*Who would Win The Most Sophisticated Content Algorithm or Weird Among Us Animations?* Also if yee want to give KZbin livestreaming a go yourselves then I recommend VIDIQ to make bulk edits and SEO easier - vidiq.com/spiff

[@destroyer-of-ai137]

1st

[@leohambly]

tea

[@atrain7788]

5hrs ago??

[@ictitticyrysuicdudijvtvsvh9954]

Tea

[@stanislavjonas9141]

Spif why is your task manager thingy in czech?

[@MrRafalel]

I'm truly sorry for the youtube agent tasked to controlling Spiff.

[@edwardrhoads7283]

Oh pretty sure they need a large team to do that

[@jonathanhill1076]

The only one that could control Spiff was the Queen, you'll notice that he has only gained more power since her death.

[@chronosschiron]

the persons name is smart maxwell smart

[@peregrinemiles7936]

Controlling? The madman is free stress testing

[@VCV95]

I'm not! We need more like Spiff breaking these god awful systems. He even mostly does it for a point instead of solely profit, and he shares his info readily. For cosplaying as such a colonial capitalist bastard, he gives away tons of free info.

[@PhantomSavage]

36,435 I am absolutely in love with the fact there was a legitimate moment at KZbin headquarters where someone saw that tweet and an entire department of people started panicking and making correction to the platform *during the stream* Spiff caused actual pandemonium within KZbin HQ and that's absolutely incredible.

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[@TheSpeep]

Frankly, they should be paying him for this kinda stuff. I mean aside from the ad revenue, this is the kinda shit you should be hiring QA testers for and here hes doing it for them basically for free. Oh, and about 45k.

[@StayTrueToThySELF]

@@TheSpeepWhy would they hire him if he does it for free anyway ?

[@frankharzer6224]

@@StayTrueToThySELF Strictly speaking he doesn't do it for free as he earns his money with KZbin.

[@MrNaesme]

If he had thought of it, he might have been able to throw this together as an official bug bounty submission.

[@eugeneomalley6303]

There is a reason this video only got recommended 8 months later.

[@EmilyBroti]

he did a thing

[@oliveruio9060]

🎉

[@VeliaOwO]

Yeah, I wonder why 👀

[@Altaltalt4-js1sh]

Huh

[@KWifler]

He's not even usually in my feed... But here he is. I watch videos on my phone feed and never get ads.

[@mygoldenwitch]

This video aged like Ancient Fruit wine lying dormant for 2 years in a modded Stardew cellar. _chef's_ _kiss_

[@theeyeflashwithoutabudget171]

ACTUALLY

[@yablomas_]

What happened?

[@winterstime1138]

@@yablomas_ Yeah what happend?

[@yablomas_]

@@winterstime1138 I mean I think he just said this cuz of all the MrBeast drama but idk

[@Groaker]

1.3 mil and it was recommended to me 8 months later and it seems I am not alone.

[@budgetstardust1349]

Yea its back for some reason, it just works

[@theairacobra]

yep

[@rodrigoff7456]

If you hover it with your cursor, it shows the exact number

[@Groaker]

@@rodrigoff7456 Good to know! Thank you

[@luetar2948]

Yeah I also just got recommended this

[@ivyanderson7]

"I'm sorry. I'm British and you're just going to have to deal with it." No single statement has ever described Spiff better.

[@lukpeluk]

@@ILearoy this exact same thing happened to me

[@Mz.AmayaHyde]

british people have a cool accent fr fr

[@Red-Tower]

One of the few people to apologize for being British. Respect

[@katanah3195]

He's a British stereotype and we love him for it.

[@topkek996]

Also sums up a large part of history

[@DubYuhGChoppa]

This is the first time i actually got to witness something like this live instead of just hearing about it afterwards. Was definitely awesome

[@thespiffingbrit]

it was a pleasure to have you there

[@DubYuhGChoppa]

​@thespiffingbrit you're a legend

[@dragoscozma8651]

same. I remember beings so sad when youtube patched it

[@ItsDeveloper_]

same. the stream was flabbergasting indeed

[@idontknoq4813]

Same.

[@freeswan6]

'10 months later' why did this only hit my recs now? Hmmmm, I sense shenanigans.

[@NATEISCH]

Hmmmmm

[@AD_Rap]

Ikr

[@SquishyOfCinder]

could be mr beast related hmmmm

[@EEErmine]

Hmmmmmm

[@caseyhurlburt3561]

Shenanigans?!?! Look no further then KZbin’s incredibly basic algorithm… mr beast content not made by me beast is more popular at the moment.. wala… it shows you videos like that. What kind of conspiracy do you think is happening?

[@ForeverLaxx]

The scary part about this isn't the exploits, but that KZbin will just jump into their system and modify numbers live rather than fix underlying systems. This lets them decide who gets to reap the rewards of their broken system and who doesn't.

[@jacobrollins37]

That is a very good point. Just like the thumb down button, KZbin is not fixing the real problem.

[@skyemegakitty]

I have a feeling that whats going on here is a bit more sophisticated than that. Google is notorious for it's "automation first" approach, because they really couldn't operate any other way at the scale they have. It could be that the view and like counts start in a less-strict, unverified state to encourage organic discovery, but these counts get vetted more thoroughly once they cross certain thresholds that would incur monetization payouts. I know I've heard creators talking about numbers dropping off of what they originally were by the time they get paid for the views.

[@Nitidus]

Just another effortless conspiracy theory. Because who cares about facts and reality as long as you feel like your narrative is confirmed. *_Proof_* or it didn't happen.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Any why shouldn't they?

[@muizzy]

@@ahet Because if they don't accurately track views, the advertisers could sue youtube for fraud.

[@AbsolXGuardian]

It just hit me that Spiff is a free pentester for KZbin. That's why he's never gotten in trouble for his exploits

[@cdubsoptional7849]

It's not so much that he's a pentester. He's damage control. These exploits could have been front page news or on wikileaks. Instead, it's just a funny youtube video, and instead of castigating the company itself for being crap, SB puts attention on some pitiful, low rent grifters, and the overall tone is that these exploits are just an accident, and youtube is going to fix them. Give me a break. These exploits exist for a reason. KZbin wants content creators to be able to scam the system, because it's the companies paying for the adds who are getting scammed, not KZbin. And if you really want to go down the rabbit hole, the companies being scammed are fine with it, because they use the fake KZbin views/ad receipts/etc. to scam their clients and investors and etc. But what do I know?

[@cdubsoptional7849]

And come to think of it, they're obviously cooking the books. The algorithm does what they want it to, and revealing low rent exploits such as these, provides a smoke screen to hide the real fraud/criminal shenanigans going on. I had a boss who got fired for embezzlement. He was never happier than when he caught someone else stealing, because that meant he could shift blame/attention, and embezzle even harder tgan he already was.

[@phelan8385]

@@cdubsoptional7849 When advertisers figure this out they stop paying. And why is it obvious that they're cooking the books? You say it's obvious but give no reason. And no, the algorithm doesn't do exactly what they want it to. No one at KZbin knows how it works, it's over a decade old and no one person has been working with it for that time. It's a mysterious mess of spaghetti code.

[@GeorgeDCowley]

@@cdubsoptional7849 Why not both?

[@urazz7739]

@@cdubsoptional7849 Yeah, the smart thing your boss could've done was not reveal the other person he caught for stealing immediately and pin his embezzlement onto them before he does reveal it.

[@JamesKelly-tn2oz]

View count was at 1,368,949 when I clicked on the video. After I finished watching and refreshed it's at 1,369,033. Also like others have said this has just been randomly recommended to me 8 months later.

[@danielthecake8617]

Same.

[@douglasdoherty9057]

dang 11 months later and i just get to see this on my recomended. KZbin doesnt want us to know.

[@therandomchanneltv4492]

KZbin's entire IT department shivers in fear every time this man uploads a video

[@WKogut]

"Oh, he's just playing RimWorld today, thank God"

[@57thorns]

Better luck next time, we need to figure out the cheats we do not know about. Of course, the _finance_ department on the other hand....

[@Fuegoaries]

Fr 😂

[@damienmcgirl3577]

That was an incredibly funny stream. I had like 20 separate tabs open. Also the "perfect short" thing was running on my computer for almost 24 hours straight. God I love KZbin exploits. Perfectly balanced as all things should be.

[@fujster]

Please respect your parent's energy bills next time.

[@danielbenarie6756]

@r8g Please respect your parent's energy bills next time. - 🤓

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja]

@@danielbenarie6756 Please take a joke 🤓🤓🤓🤓

[@divat10]

@@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja i really am sick of people making a bad joke and then people getting mad that others make fun of it

[@FreshlySqueezed777]

Currently sitting on a very pretty 1.579.214 and slowly climbing with each refresh. Good luck with your newest exploit!!

[@aigen4013]

The fact that Spiff is a known menace in the KZbin headquarters is so funny to me,he's back at it again

[@bittybuggy]

given the delayed virality, we're part of the new exploit and tbh im here for it. 1.3 million a few months short of a year after upload, this man certainly has something up his sleeve

[@VeliaOwO]

Haha yeah, I’m looking forward to the reveal! Really curious about how he did it 👀

[@Technovore9953]

I was thinking to myself "What in the world is the motivation for these animation channels to go through all this trouble just to farm viewers?" And then he got to the third exploit and it suddenly all made sense. They're literally using KZbin as a money printer. Genius. And disgusting.

[@_._.avid._._5951]

why is it disgusting. its just hustle they can fuck over a billion dollar company and if youtube thinks its bad they should do something about it. its their damn website

[@Expressmusic457]

@@_._.avid._._5951How does the amount of money the company has earned change the morality of the exploit?

[@Technovore9953]

@@_._.avid._._5951 See, that perspective is the same perspective that topples economies. People have it, corporations have it, everyone's trying to get their own and they don't care if they're actually contributing to the economy or not. Our ability to produce is abundant but limited, and parasitic business practices like this (that I despise no matter who's committing it), when multiplied across a population, have the potential to cause widespread suffering. So, I think it's bad to do that kind of thing. And besides, the animations they're using to do it are evidence enough for the "disgusting" label being justified, lol

[@cpenner7086]

@@Technovore9953 lol this comment is brain rot XD topples ecomonies? you are jsut more dense that a rock

[@lordchronus1179]

Based on the quality of the "animations", if you want to call them that, alone, yes it is disgusting, abhorrent, and at that point I'd rather they just stream literal flashing colors and numbers to fully embrace that "I really don't give a shit about what I upload" mentality. Or, better yet, grab some online educational literature and run it through a text-to-speech program, then at least it's contributing something slightly worth the effort of dedicating brain cells. (I don't fully understand the economic nosedive that you mentioned this practice may cause, so I don't have an opinion on that.)

[@MidnightVRYT]

1,590,130 views, recommended 10 months after you posted this. And I was unsubscribed by KZbin for some reason??? And I thought this was what those random channel streams were for, I'm not surprised and actually dumbfounded that YT doesn't just completely nuke those channels when it's obvious what their doing. Great video, and continue to be a wonderful menace of society!~

[@Comrade_OMR]

Breaking monetized systems is definitely my favorite series, Spiff. Cheers 🍵

[@Zer0cul0]

Only Spiff could destroy all of KZbin for a birthday laugh. 😂

[@Mz.AmayaHyde]

true and its baass all the same

[@jameshahano2555]

Hello Tea drinkers in todays video i crash the entirety of youtube and commit corpore espionage

[@name_69420]

I feel honoured to have participated in something like this! It was really an adventurous experience during the livestream, Thank you Spiff!

[@thespiffingbrit]

Our pleasure! Thanks for helping

[@Mz.AmayaHyde]

hello im just following general spiffs orders

[@LunarPriestessYT]

This video gets recommended just when the mrbeast allegations are coming out

[@zxcghoulenish]

he knew...

[@randomperson4915]

This man single-handedly caused armageddon for platform shenanigans and I'm all here for it. It takes a special content creator to not only NOT abuse the bug for their own good, but to raise awareness for itwhile also making for an entertaining experience. o7

[@Mz.AmayaHyde]

hi

[@isaacwilson5768]

Shhhh.....have some tea

[@gru_villian]

1.4 m views, recomended 9 month later, didn't expect to learn about KZbin exploits

[@BenjaminWeeb]

1.5M 9 months later. why is youtube recomending this?

[@LokiLoufyson]

1.6 m views, recommended 12 months later

[@diamondflaw]

Spiff deserves bounties paid to him from KZbin for all this excellent documented stress testing he’s doing for them.

[@dankboi987]

Thats just the money he gets form his videos/streams

[@jeremyayers5353]

He’s was on the empire’s side all along!

[@MaxFerney]

and into a format that applies to a generalized audience

[@jonharson]

"stress testing" There are 50k watching a 5 minutes loop of rain right now, orange man would routinely get 1M+ live viewers to his rallies.

[@lokimidknight7319]

Hes essentially a free pen tester for YT at this point, should def be charging a consulting fee every time he breaks the platform and reports it.

[@CordeliaWagner1999]

Got this recommandet at the peak of the "Mr Beast exposed" Scandals.

[@mgmystique3103]

The stream did indeed find me. It was an honor pushing my pc to its limit by watching the same stream 8+ times simultaneously for the sake of science. Good work spiff, Always a pleasure

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@erikainharmony4465]

Hats off to Spiff for being a stand up gent and not continuing to exploit KZbin for profit. From a coffee drinking American, much respect.

[@Oblithian]

*for our profit.

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@erikainharmony4465]

@@Oblithian No. For profit. Do not intend to speak for me.

[@Mz.AmayaHyde]

i agree although matcha tea i will always drink above coffee (unless im falling asleep or its a new coffee place ive never been to just to try their coffee but then always matcha)

[@Longshot441]

He did make a profit, Yt bribed him with tea to stop.

[@sandordugalin8951]

You are absolutely in a special column in KZbin's system. You might still be plugged into the algorithm, but they have a team of programmers who watch your channel 24/7 and are ready to cook the books every time you pull a prank.

[@Anwy_]

1.599.176 views is going great, keep up the good work

[@lmaolol9357]

Perfectly balanced! 🧐

[@SappyDuder]

Part of me is convinced that there is a team at KZbin to monitor specifically Spiff for breaking things

[@ericmollison2760]

There should be, but clearly they aren't very good.

[@realeatham]

I think there is, he basically provides free stress testing.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

But all of them are on twitter on work. Just as founding CEO intended.

[@codassassin254]

It was an absolute honor to be a participant of this. Had the stream open on my phone, Switch, TV, and about 100 tabs on a laptop. It was beautiful.

[@GoldDudeMan]

You can use KZbin on the Nintendo Switch?

[@iluvpandas2755]

Yes

[@alexanderflemming6788]

​@@GoldDudeMan Yep same with other platforms such as xbox.

[@ericmollison2760]

100 tabs? I want your laptop. Can you please duplicate it for me?

[@Mz.AmayaHyde]

omfg lollllll

[@TheodorRiegger]

KZbin: so how many stream viewers do you want? The Spiffing Brit: Yes

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[@potet7475]

I love that spiff had turned exploiting baked in flaws to an IRL level, mans rules lawyered a company

[@BubkisLord]

I was going to say how 1.3M views is heaps, but I just looked and your getting that quite regularly now... How the channel has grown!

[@Takashiaramake]

I recall watching this when it came out. 8 months later, it's back in the feed and popping up all over video end screens. So uhhhh... Whatcha doin spiff?

[@renon1946]

Spiff owes some of his audience a new CPU. And KZbin owes him a job as a chief exploit officer.

[@dside_ru]

But that would make him CE… _Oh-h-h-h-h…_ How very Spiffy of you.

[@Mz.AmayaHyde]

yes

[@1IGG]

Oh, THAT'S what CEO stands for.

[@SundayTopper]

You just KNOW youtube allowed this with a select group of pre-approved influencers for years maybe. Spiffing Brit, you are a treasure, good sir. And I tip my hat to you. EDIT: I nearly forgot, vote count at my posting shows 136k likes.

[@ParGellen]

If AI ever tries to take over I want this guy on my team!

[@haimlalisho9726]

Skynet is absolutely balanced with no exploits what so ever

[@gabbymcgibson984]

You have nothing to fear.

[@anh413]

Bold of you to assume he isn't the one controlling the AI.

[@TheAruruu]

Spiff + Jim Browning vs AI. the AI has no chance.

[@omphya6229]

Spiff would be the one taking over with AI

[@mrdocterdeath2707]

I am so lucky to have been a part of this glitch, the live-stream was hilarious. Keep it going Spiff, keep breaking KZbin.

[@thespiffingbrit]

Always!

[@mr.d418]

Didn't think I would get a "KZbin is a perfectly balanced platform with no expoits whatsoever" video. But here we are

[@saraghhh]

Welcome, friend. Spiffing Brit has multiple videos on how to exploit KZbin. Enjoy!

[@rmp5s]

1:37- "KZbin is a very simple, meritocratic platform"...lol...you sure about that? 🤣🤣🤣

[@visceralsc3662]

This stream was priceless, the sheer amount of people who joined and were utterly bamboozled by Spiff had my laughing so hard.

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@PBeans69]

Burn 🥔!

[@Mz.AmayaHyde]

hi just following general spiffs orders

[@cliptracer8980]

The video was 5 hours ago….

[@maxwellwang795]

Spiff honestly deserves the success and attention drawn towards him. He's innovative, persistent, and most importantly has the integrity to expose the malfunctions of a broken system rather than keep the knowledge hidden and exploited.

[@RepensiYT]

200th like lol

[@MichealmonkeyBusinessJohnson]

300th like lol@@RepensiYT

[@Akario3]

1.2 Million Can't believe this was recommended to me 8 months later, and idk if this helps lmao, but you gave me a good laugh throughout the video.

[@brandonreed9508]

That’s weird, it’s saying 1.1m right now. I never thought the view count was right.

[@rubendriezen7177]

@@brandonreed9508 It's back to 1.3m for me

[@konm08]

κι εμένα μου το πέταξε σήμερα

[@MrMan-dc9xh]

1.304.765 for me, very weird indeed@@brandonreed9508

[@HeroFigo]

@@brandonreed9508 1.3m 😔

[@Blakkrazor69]

And this finally turns up in my Recommendations Feed...I wonder why.

[@princeminewalker2729]

The amount of mental trickery this man can execute astounds me

[@antonzhdanov9653]

True british. Like I dunno, but this is a feature whole nation is literally infamous for😅

[@Brain-washed2]

I don't think you know what mental means

[@yoshifn5k]

truly a major amount of tomfoolery.

[@JDSileo]

269,557 views, 16,712 comments, 33k likes, 18 hours old, I was not subscribed but I get recommended and watch often. Thank you for feeding your lust for exploitative conquest in helpful and productive ways.

[@epoxyglue]

10:20 PM 443k views, released 2 days ago

[@Jesayou]

9/3/23 5:45 pm CST 604k views (3 Days old) I too was not a subscriber but have watched quite a few spiffing brit videos.

[@ImNotFine44]

649,366 views, 28k comments, 66k likes and 3 days olds. Am a subscriber but watch infrequently.

[@agentwho9187]

That fact that I've never heard of you and don't usually watch videos about the KZbin algorithm, yet randomly got recommended this video I think means the exploit is working.

[@aviatornic2839]

I imagine Im only getting reccomended this despite being subscribed and bell iconed is because this doesnt work anymore

[@shiversmith13]

As an unashamedly tea drinking American, I approve this video. Thank you Spiff for killing so many games and platforms for our entertainment. You deserve every drop of money from the most broken livestream ever. Also the video is presently at 337k views, 39k likes, and 19k likes.

[@Caketurtle7]

Wat

[@JameyMcQueen]

Might want to rethink that last part.

[@nazaxprime]

Look at vid description for more numeric detail.

[@AnonymousD-f7f]

I just wanted to say i was going to like the video when you told me to, but i already liked. also its 1.6 million views rn :)

[@popecorkyxxiv2363]

That's how major corporations work. Operate quietly within the bureaucracy and you will accomplish next to nothing after years of effort. Create enough embarrassing noise that someone at a director level hears about it online and suddenly sweeping but half baked changes are being implemented overnight.

[@germanempire2387]

Brit really went from breaking games to breaking the fabric of social media he’s evolving too quickly I hope he doesn’t end up like a Boeing whistleblower soon

[@vidIQ]

Thank you for mentioning us! We are big fans of yours 🤩

[@Qmestari]

8 months late

[@s4300ok]

lol

[@StormTEC]

I liked all 3 of your videos you've done 100 times each

[@jasonparkerirl]

Bro vid iq is here???? wow

[@bobbywilson7662]

Damn this aged like fine wine XD Love you spiff

[@kaoshatter6653]

This was one of the first live streams I was able to be apart of, and it was an honor to be a part of this

[@12many4you]

A........ Part You have to leave a space between "A" and "part" Apart from when you don't want to

[@kaoshatter6653]

@@12many4you thank you for correcting my mistake. May you find plenty more Grammer mistakes with my reply and also many more through out the messages with in this comment section 😁

[@Cptn_Candy]

It's about time that we, the content creators, made youtube sweat in fear and worry and not the other way around. Side note, I think spiff's channel is being ACTIVELY monitored and refreshed, I've seen the likes go from 18k to 19k like 3 times while watching the video and the view count is actually going up in the description as I watch. Not sure if this is a new feature I just never noticed or what but uh, yeah.

[@Mz.AmayaHyde]

hi

[@Mikey-am]

hi

[@beefanman]

Yeah, the view count is going up like crazy, within 18 minutes the video has gotten over 11k views, views were at 206k at the start of the video, when I refreshed at the end (because of this comment) it spiked up to 217k

[@cdubsoptional7849]

Content creator, is kind of a weird term. At least in my mind, it invokes the image of someone opening a sluice gate and unleashing a torrent of slop into a waiting trough.

[@patrickbateman69420]

This is hilarious, one live stream broke viewership (twice), broke the like counter and most importantly of all absolutely destroyed advertising 🤣 You really keep KZbin busy, never change Spiff.

[@cliptracer8980]

The video was 5 hours ago….

[@patrickbateman69420]

@cliptracer8980 yes and if you actually watched the video, you'll know the live stream I'm talking about did all of the things I mentioned. Did a monkey type your comment for you or was there some other unknown purpose to it?

[@DanTheBuska]

11 months later, reccomend. Hm

[@Figureitoutify]

Usually when someone breaks everything they touch, its a bad thing. This man, this magnificent man has made it so fun and entertaining

[@jpbr9296]

I love the fact you made a 3 hour stream of “breaking KZbin,” and latter a tweet was what called their attention

[@TheAruruu]

656,273 views (and 66k likes) Spiff can do stuff like this all the time as far as i'm concerned. The only way to get KZbin to fix itself is to abuse it, while telling everyone how you're abusing it and how they can help. Total transparency for the betterment of everyone.

[@Pro_Existance]

Wait a minute it's now 503,830 views with 54K likes

[@beholdandfearme]

@@Pro_Existance 677,681 views and 68K likes now

[@mowvu]

and only 510 dislikes. what a great ratio!

[@SomethingUnremarkable]

686k views and 69k likes

[@jamesisa7689]

The more comments he gets the more the video is shown to others on KZbin, I think we got tricked... I'm all in, LET'S GET MORE VIEWS!!! (688k)

[@ajs675]

11 months later got this recommended

[@sparking023]

There's something oddly heartwarming in knowing YT's code and systems, a major tech giant, are still kept together with virtual glue, hopes and tears of the dev team, just like the code you come up with at your first year of college/bootcamp. Some things never change

[@dragoonsunite]

1,288,495 views. Just a test to see if your "like" thing for the videos ALSO works for liking comments... Because if so... Spiffing Brit viewers are about to own all KZbin debates in terms of appearing to be liked for the foreseeable future.

[@dragoonsunite]

Nope Sadge...

[@MsLeVagabon]

As of 16th of August 2024, this has 1.6 million views. This was also recommended to me, a Frenchman. Weird.

[@tetryl1]

Damn this could be big. The advertizers could sue youtube for this. They have probably been paying youtube way more than they should have for years.

[@Tomehawk95]

I remember waking up, grabbing my phone and seeing a live-stream from Brit. That was the craziest moment of my life. This guy never livestreams, so I open it and I just hear him saying "just keep opening new tabs, task manager close the browser and open it again and restore tabs". I was so tired I had no idea what was going on, lol.

[@morgster1260]

Same here lol but i was on mobile so i couldnt join in with the exploit

[@Tomehawk95]

@@morgster1260 Same brother. I tried, but multiple tabs in a mobile browser didn't work (I think)

[@shadow105720]

I love how KZbin only found out about it from an employee being on Twitter/X instead of their own platform where they must have analytics just the same or even more than the streaming channel.

[@Mz.AmayaHyde]

lmao, Right?

[@Longshot441]

They don't understand yt either and they manage it.

[@snackplaylove]

You just do it when America sleeps. Get away with anything then!

[@AntonianProductions]

the first coment I've ever left on youtube, do something good with it!

[@coconutwindsurfer5589]

It truly was a legendary experience being a part of the stream Multiple tabs on multiple devices Spamming chat Reloading the page Graphs And we may or may not have BOIL some viewers

[@Mz.AmayaHyde]

lol

[@esahg5421]

it was epic 😂 the chat should be datamined and taught to kids in grade school lol 😂

[@derandere4356]

We shall never forget the 🥔BOIL🥔

[@coconutwindsurfer5589]

@@derandere4356 BOIL 🥔

[@derekcline950]

This video doesn't even mention the raids back and forth at the very beginning into the most absurd videos

[@PeoplePolter]

Extremely fortunate to have been apart of the livestream, what a wicked experience.

[@antifreeze44]

I was live for this and opening all the tabs and helping out with using all 32GB of my RAM !!! it was a BLAST. Thanks SpiffCo. You rock!

[@nothingtoit142]

1.638,908 views, and it's trending/recommended to me despite not being subscribed. Probably due to the Mr. Beast drama and your title. :)

[@JohnWilliamNowak]

Old software tester here. We did this to stress test a server back in the 1990s. And here we are in 2023 and KZbin is basing its metrics on it.

[@turtlearmyjess6147]

I almost didn't click this video because I wrote off the thumbnail as clickbait. Then I realized who the video was created by and clicked it immediately. Fantastic video as always

[@Aldrahill]

I have never before, nor will ever again, pick a worse time to upload a video than the literal second that a Spiff livestream goes live. Got to take part and watch on multiple devices though, so it was worth it :D

[@moirpus]

this video got recomended to me 8 months later

[@TheXev]

A few more details to note: only Chrome requires you to have all of the tabs visible for this to work. If you'd switched everyone to Firefox, and made sure they had disabled tab sleeping, you could have easily of pulled this off without having all of the tabs viewable. On Twitch, there was a limited time where a window had to be active to count as a viewer. This really sucked for anyone who watched a live stream on 2nd or 3rd monitor, and viewer counts tanked as a result, so the change was undone. This however, NEVER applied to Firefox, only Chrome. Still, in general, if you love your streamer on any platform you really should be using Firefox, as Firefox doesn't support a lot of this weird spying stuff that Chrome has added.

[@charlesfranks1902]

running 76 tabs atm , 41 are youtube tabs but sadly only one tab enabled on ms edge

[@ffuuzzuu5943]

yeah that will be because edge is based on chromium - so it will have the same effect as using chrome

[@lamantidelm]

Oh boy, here we go again

[@darklight8774]

i use brave browser and/or safari so L on you

[@achillesa5894]

I wonder if this applies to the better chromium browsers like Vivaldi and Brave

[@fall2zero]

I realized this when doing my own, small videos, i would regularly view my own video to see if i did something wrong or off and every time i looked, my view had gone up by at least 1, this is how i found out about this method but i didnt realize it meant anything because i only viewed my own videos as a means to improve my own quality

[@kataseiko]

The thing is, KZbin has absolutely no problem with showing 20 ads to one viewer at once. They don't even care if that thing gets exploited. Because every time you show an ad, 70% of that revenue goes to KZbin and you get only a small cut.

[@danielfay8963]

It doesn’t directly cost them money, but it does lower the value of their ads. If livestream ads consistently get lower conversion because their consistently getting shown on screens that no one’s actually watching, then google can’t charge as much for them, so they absolutely do care about that.

[@BlairdBlaird]

@@danielfay8963 it can also get them sued by their clients (the advertisers), because an advertiser is not paying primo money for 6 impressions on the same secondary display. In fact that's already an issue because of a WSG report that ads are showing up on "low-quality sites" and inappropriate contexts.

[@Buttersaemmel]

@@danielfay8963 yes but if the window is kept active then there isn't any real way to know if the ad was acutally seen or not, if zthey don't change things. so as long as this "ad-view-multiplying" exploit isn't public enough to reach advertisers youtube can act like those views of the ads are real, even though they know that it's just exploited/botted. now if this knowledge reaches advertisers they have to change things in order to ensure advertisers that theire ads are seen, otherwise the case you wrote happens where they can't charge as much anymore.

[@nathanielbellmore]

KZbin has been helping regular people make profit off of big corporations through ad revenue. They also provide a space for smaller businesses to have a somewhat fair footing in marketing their products and services to a large audience that they wouldnt be able to reach otherwise. KZbin is not the enemy. The ad companies will likely try to have KZbin implement a system to prevent bots or exploits from raising ad view count so they know they arent paying for any wasted ad space, or they will just renegotiate with KZbin lowering the amount they pay for ad space since they dont know how many ad views are legitimate. If anything happens whatsoever, it will ultimately hurt creators the most.

[@NotAnotherArtVideo]

@@danielfay8963When the ads don't do well, the advertising platform tells the advertiser their ad must not be that good. They make money either way. Advertising platforms are designed to make a target amount of money and profit, regardless of performance. I once bought ads for something from Google. They charged me more, because the ads weren't popular. If more people clicked on the ad, I'd have to pay less per click. I was paying over 10x per click compared to the "best" ads".

[@danyelavila6826]

1.5 Million, recommended this video 10 months later.

[@obamabingchilling]

I imagine there's a whole division at KZbin headquarters to monitor spiff to make sure he doesn't utterly destroy the platform

[@ProphetinReverse-qj5rn]

I was deeply upset that I was unable to meaningfully attend the livestream, but I heard all about it on Spiff’s very lovely discord. It is amazing how not only Spiff, but such a dedicated fanbase can keep KZbin on their toes. And the view count is now at 176,482 views with approximately 11k comments and 23k likes.

[@PerfectZeroMusic_]

I am giggling at the thought that inside most KZbin departments there's a big red button with Spiff written on it that sounds a massive alarm across the building

[@Mz.AmayaHyde]

lmaoooooo

[@sinteleon]

Assuming they actually had such high tech, it's probably just one guy running up and down the hallways. :V

[@L4dy_Kum]

This aged well

[@blueshadows684]

@@L4dy_Kum How so?

[@L4dy_Kum]

The current Mrs beast drama and all

[@blueshadows684]

@@L4dy_Kum I didn’t know there was any.

[@hazonku]

This was so fun to participate in. I managed to get my fancy new 7050x with a 4090 and 64Gb or RAM put through its paces and I managed to fill 4 whole monitors with tiny little windows of Brit until everything was going at a snail's pace.

[@fourofcats5803]

Haha I love that you did that, cheers 😂

[@pencilman7474]

Hahah, what kind of browser did you use? Would it make a difference?

[@noahhastings6145]

I've noticed recently that YT made a change. If you just scroll by a video in your feed, it shows up in your view history. I'm sure that's exploitable. Have fun Spiff.

[@kingzach74]

Yes that was one of the exploits utilized during the stream as well.

[@jacobfreeman5444]

It is not new. I considered it an annoyance and found a way to not trigger it on the app. Don't close anything you are finished watching until you find the next vid. The auto watch doesn't trigger that way.

[@kphaxx]

The discrepancy between the analytics view count vs view count on the stream could be due the fact that analytics are often done by copying data into a database dedicated specifically for analytics stuff. The copying of data doesn't happen often, and certainly doesn't update as often as the "true" view count does, so I can foresee discrepancies like this happening if engineers have to quickly triage such an exceptionally urgent bug.

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@faulerpanda7376]

This has been just today recommended at 1.630.255 views (11 Months after release)

[@psychosageio]

The problem (depending on how you see it) with spamming ads to fake users is that KZbin doesn't lose money, the advertisers do. Not a big deal if it's Unilever or something, defintiely sucks big time for smaller businesses or self-funded startups. But... 1. Be a KZbinr where "finance guru (scammers)" target your channel 2. Spam ads on your livestream to a gazillion tabs 3. ??? 4. A bunch of finance guru scammers abruptly go broke and run out of funding to find more victims

[@orukarm]

We need to find a KZbin who is targeted for that, and have them do it

[@neoqwerty]

@@nebylicza Going by my Firefox experience: an actual gaming rig with a VERY LARGE amount of RAM, an incognito mode instance, and/or multiple gaming laptops spending all their RAM on firefox tabs

[@zedantyorant]

Remove all graphic elements from the page and make an automatic bot that will press the botton subsequently

[@shocktnc]

There are quite a few things that would stop that from happening

[@seeroh3908]

Welp, I was working at the time of the Livestream, but it still makes a really good story. Spiff really keeps the KZbin engineers on their toes.

[@kevinbarnard355]

I love the metatextual nature of this video. A channel dedicated to exposing glitches and exploits in games doing it to itself and the hosting platform. Well played Spiff, well played.

[@neoqwerty]

KZbin gaming is gonna have to add KZbin to the games you can play at the rate The Spiffing Brit is going

[@neveridle]

im surprised they didnt banned him

[@lilpwnige]

1.6mil, recommended to me 11months after posting.

[@Oroborus710]

This was possibly the greatest livestream to bless the KZbin page of all time, truly a historical moment. (Obligatory "I was there" comment)

[@Yutzune]

8,414 Really fun stream! Glad it was fun for you as well :D Also, "He's at it again" really shows the POV of every dev that watches Spiffs videos.

[@YouTubeLiaison]

Dagnabit, Spiff! 🤣 I've shared this video with our teams, but should also point out there are systems in place to detect inauthentic views and they can flag a video or channel for spam or other malicious behavior, and at any time, so stream safe!

[@waldolemmer]

Yeah, the "exploits" mentioned in the video have been tested many times and are nothing new. KZbin already has countermeasures in place - some just take some time before taking effect. Some of the things mentioned obviously violate KZbin's ToS. I imagine they don't hesitate to suspend the accounts of repeat offenders.