Why I Ditched My TOAKS!

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[@MyHumboldtLife]

I got the Firemaple pot and one of their stoves recently (with igniter) and it's a really well thought out system. One feature of the lid that you didn't mention is the fact that it's see-through which is nice to be able to see what's happening to whatever you are cooking inside without having to remove the lid. Overall, I'm really happy with the system so far.

[@ISuckatHiking]

That is true, it is a great system.

[@SunTours-Adventures]

I generally don't like narrow, high-piled cooking systems like these, as they sooner or later lead to accidents (possibly with scalding) like you showed. I also have a FireMaple stove, but one with a flat, wide design. The stove stands stable on the ground and a hose leads to the gas cartridge, which is therefore away from the flame. I can use the cartridge upside down, I can warm/insulate it. With the flame so close to the ground, wind is also a smaller disturbance factor, which is easy to eliminate, often even without a special wind shield - which perhaps saves the weight that my stove weighs more because of the hose. You have to search for a long time to find a 750 ml pot/cup that has an even side/height ratio, most are narrow and tall like your two models. So I opted for 550 ml - as tall as it is wide and a small cartridge fits in. Here in Central Europe I have 2 options with tat smaller cup (I don't use "astronaut food."): - Either I cook minimalistically in 550 ml or I can often eat lunch in a restaurant (cheap)/mountain hut (expensive). We have very few large wilderness areas, otherwise you pass settlements every (other) day. Then I only need a hot drink with my sandwich in the morning and evening. - Or I also take a 1600 ml titanium pot with me, in which I can cook "properly". By the way, you can reduce the cooking time even further if you cook with a lid, I learned that from my grandmother - for the kitchen at home, not for outdoors. 😉 And the lid (which is often not included) quickly saves so much gas that it makes up for the few extra grams.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Thanks for the tips!

[@bryanshaw38]

Great review. Was looking at this set up before. Now convinced it’s what I should get. Thanks

[@ISuckatHiking]

@@bryanshaw38 I now have 2!

[@cathyparker6980]

Great to see you Michael. Wonderful review. Thank you!

[@ISuckatHiking]

Thanks

[@peter-d2w]

What a brilliant presentation; immediately after watching I got onto looking for those components and found them at the best price from Ali Express. I too had the identical setup as you previously but used a Trangia pot lifter .Thank you for presenting to me a better way that I was looking for. Saving me the expense of trial and error. I also use a lightweight plastic gas cylinder stabiliser to prevent tip overs. Cheers

[@ISuckatHiking]

I'm glad I can help!

[@elbino413]

Thanks for the review I was just going to buy my brother the toaks and brs set up but I’ll get him this instead as I’ve had many of the same gripes!

[@ISuckatHiking]

@@elbino413 Glad I could help

[@m.hernandez1404]

I,too, have the toaks 750 which is now for my cat can alcohol stove setup. I got the fire maple petrel which I paired with my Soto wind master. I like the handle on the petrel much better. Feels safer. The only issue I've had is that the petrel lid sometimes gets stuck to the pot top and I have to pull hard which might lead to spills. What I do now is leave the lid at a slight angle to keep it from sticking to the pot. Works pretty well. Thanks!

[@ISuckatHiking]

@@m.hernandez1404 awesome

[@openskyphotography]

Same for me (went from Toaks 750 and Esbit stove to Petrel and Soto Windmaster). And yes, have to boil with lid slightly off/angled. I also have found the petrel is a bit finicky to remove from the Soto arms, but not a huge deal. Definitely works really well.

[@SilverFenixFyre]

What pot lifter is that and where can I find one? Thanks for the video!

[@ISuckatHiking]

You can find it on Garage grown gear

[@jeffthomas7734]

There is a ton of link to different equipment but the one thing I was interested isn't there. Where did you get the titanium pot lifters?

[@ISuckatHiking]

@@jeffthomas7734 on Garage grown gear

[@gina5827]

Great thorough review! Love the new space. 😊

[@ISuckatHiking]

Thanks so much!

[@davepalmer844]

Thank you for the informative review. I know weight is a big consideration for many hikers. I recently purchased the Green Peak stove and pleasantly discovered that it only weighed 2.6 ounces rather than the listed 3 oz. Usually gear comes in weighing a bit more than what is listed. Fire Maple is making some impressive gear.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Glad it was helpful!

[@vivianhelt8860]

That would be great for our pontoon 😮 Thank you for sharing!

[@ISuckatHiking]

You’re welcome 😊

[@tinypenpen]

Could you compare gas usage till boiling?

[@ISuckatHiking]

I can I would have to weigh the canister before and after boiling

[@ssipola]

Glad you enjoy your new setup. One thing that got me though was you throwing the Toaks pot lid out because it had no features that you liked only to seconds after praise the new one for having a strainer. That's literally built into the Toaks lid as well. 🙃 I do agree the handle sucks on it though 😅

[@ISuckatHiking]

@ssipola my toaks lid only had vent holes, no strainer

[@blakemcclenny4914]

I've seen this on Amazon several times. Glad to see someone do a video review. Let us know how it works in the field!

[@ISuckatHiking]

Sure thing!

[@SpamMusubi308]

I'm curious as to how well the Petral pot work over an wood fire or alcohol stove?

[@ISuckatHiking]

I've never used an alcohol stove, but I could check it in a fire.

[@majesticbob884]

Will the pocket rocket two work with the maple pot? Especially not tipping over?

[@ISuckatHiking]

Yes it will

[@paulmphoto]

Great video! I have used the petril since spring and love it. I pair mine with the camping moon stove with the soto tri-flex.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Good stuff!

[@Andy-Mesa]

I've been using a FireMaple Petrel + Soto Windmaster since FlatCatGear first talked about it almost a year ago and it has performed flawlessly, including during a 70mph windstorm on San Jacinto during my last PCT section hike.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Nice!

[@timsoyars1652]

While you say the Fire Maple stove boils water faster, so it’s more efficient, you didn’t calculate how much fuel it used to do that. Some stoves just burn more fuel to boil faster

[@ISuckatHiking]

Next time I will do a canister weight measurment!

[@bouffels9157]

I also have the fire maple, it heats faster but indeed uses more fuel, i do bring it though in case it suddenly gets cold and windy

[@ISuckatHiking]

@bouffels9157 I'm going to weigh my canister and see

[@seankelleher4222]

@@timsoyars1652 on, say, a SOTO wind master turned to the same output it will boil faster than a Toaks pot. That heat exchanger does improve efficiency - how could it not. There is a question about how much fuel you need to save to pay back the extra weight of the pot.

[@galejones5870]

Can the fire maple pot be washed all over with the bottom as it is with those fins?

[@ISuckatHiking]

In a dishwasher, what are you sticking the bottom of your pot in? 😆

[@galejones5870]

@ 😂. Nothing hopefully but if there is spillover or somehow gets dirty..

[@whip4160]

great video.. what is the brand of your titanium pot lifter? Thx!

[@ISuckatHiking]

@whip4160 you can buy it on Garage grown gear

[@whip4160]

@ISuckatHiking very cool. Thx!

[@richlovin2173]

Very thorough and useful presentation. Thanks.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Glad it was helpful!

[@carlaberkheimer2788]

Thanks for the review. I agree with you 100%

[@ISuckatHiking]

Thanks for watching!

[@seankelleher4222]

You can just about replace the lid (28 g) with one of the new Sea to Summit Frontier collapsible cups (52 g) and have a decent mug at almost no extra volume and little extra weight.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Link for that cup is below

[@mitchschwartzburg3483]

Can the fuel can fit in the new 600 size cup

[@ISuckatHiking]

@mitchschwartzburg3483 Yes, I loaded it all at the end of the video

[@mitchschwartzburg3483]

@ thanks.. i finally saw that after i hit send the message… i like the setup

[@ISuckatHiking]

@mitchschwartzburg3483 awesome

[@mitchschwartzburg3483]

@@ISuckatHiking going to pick up this cup and stove setup and weigh it out against my current setup.. trying to get my GOB to be lighter.. fuel can is what it is (for weight) with full fuel so not much can do about making a new can weigh less. Lbs are lbs when walking miles

[@yuriklaver4639]

What a brilliant presentation!

[@ISuckatHiking]

Thanks!

[@oxxnarrdflame8865]

Excellent vid. I agree with your assessment. I don’t cook anything that requires straining. I’m not dumping water that I’ve cleaned and used fuel on.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Thanks

[@DominiqueB]

I _always_ drink my pasta water, no dumping it, just pour it into my cup or extra bowl. I might add a pack of bouillon (if i haven't already added it to the water for my pasta or ramen) or whatever to make a satisfying soup -- or just use it to make tea: I'm not picky when i'm out in the woods & hungry/thirsty. :-)

[@Foxyfreedom]

I love it, I use a jet boil too. Two different cook systems depending on what I’m doing

[@ISuckatHiking]

I have a jetboil but never use it, too heavy

[@Foxyfreedom]

@ yea. It’s made for mountaineers though so I only take it when I’m camping on Shasta and need to melt snow or something

[@garyblack2858]

Great review. Did you overall mention weight? Say, I love your Take A Hike shirt. Is that something you sale? I would like to purchase one or two. Noticed the embelm on the wall and such.

[@ISuckatHiking]

That shirt was a clearance merino wool shirt I bought a while back. That sign is from hobby lobby and was a gift. The new setup is a few more oz but well worth it for the features.

[@drytool]

Still take the lighter. Piezo igniters are notorious for failing when needed most.

[@ISuckatHiking]

I will 4 sure

[@yuriklaver4639]

@@ISuckatHiking This thing sucks! is what he's saying.

[@ISuckatHiking]

@@yuriklaver4639 it's important to be prepared. I can survive stoveless, I did it for 5 months living in the woods

[@yuriklaver4639]

@@ISuckatHiking Respect.

[@Lucitt13]

I have the same pot. I paired mine with a Soto windmaster with the 3 prong attachment. That combo boils water insanely fast. Granted it is heavier than the Toaks but, I just like the feathers of the fire maple.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Nice

[@johncramer9564]

Two points about this video. 1) You made a very detailed analysis of the two systems but somehow 'overlooked' the issue of weight and bulk which are disadvantages for the fire maple system. I am pretty sure you are aware that backpackers prefer lighter weight and less bulk. I prefer evaluations which explain both the pros and the cons of any system, not just the advantages. 2) Just a personal note but every stove I have ever owned with an attached Piezo igniter has had the piezo fail with only one exception. One melted, one fell off, and the others just stopped working. The only one that hasn't failed is the all-metal piezo system without any plastic parts in it such as the one used in the MSR pockrocket deluxe, so be sure to keep that backup lighter in your bag because that piezo will in all likely hood eventually fail based on my experience.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Toaks without lid and MSR 6oz Firemaple combo 8.7oz as far as bulk it's about an inch difference. No problem so far with the ignitor

[@jomataka9018]

I manage to fit even my BRS3000 with the Petrel and with this combination (weight 212g) 400ml of water boils at 1'45"min✌ Also like the snap-closing lid, total capacity of 800ml and also have FireMaple's own neoprene cover for the pot (watch out the cover&flames if you're going to use full blast). This is my go-to now when using gas.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Very nice

[@flowerpower1980]

Are there weight differences? Loved the way the pot fits into slots on the stove…that’s my greatest fear with the Toaks…seems so unstable.

[@ISuckatHiking]

It's a few more ounces but well worth it for the features

[@karenmoore9842]

Thank a for sharing, I noticed the cup is no longer available at Amazon. Give Leo a hug!

[@ISuckatHiking]

@@karenmoore9842 I will find a new link for it!

[@ISuckatHiking]

Looks like they are replacing it with the frontier cup

[@Iron-Outdoor]

Thanks for sharing this!

[@ISuckatHiking]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@hikertrash6632]

I started going stoveless and no cold soak and it’s amazing. Yeah it still sucks, but less weight 😂

[@ISuckatHiking]

@hikertrash6632 I did the whole AT stoveless, but on short trips, I bring cookware

[@pikeshike]

I would prefer the Toaks because you can put the kettle on a bonfire. I always use a fire when possible to save gas. Also, I think 750 ml is to small. I prefer 900 ml or 1200 ml. I don't want to have any plastic or rubber on my pots

[@ISuckatHiking]

If that fits your needs, then that's what you bring!

[@micbernier6403]

backpacking stuff without talking about weight difference, come on :P

[@ISuckatHiking]

I didn't make this change based on weight it was features. I am sorry for sinning against the lightweight community 😔

[@sulj3373]

@@ISuckatHikingNaughty boy😊❤

[@micbernier6403]

@@ISuckatHiking all good, more often than not, less featured gear are use for weight saving. The only thing the toaks would be better is weight. There's always pros and cons :)

[@ISuckatHiking]

@@micbernier6403 Toaks without lid and MSR 6oz Firemaple combo 8.7oz

[@markbailey15]

Ok gram counter🤣

[@brianmd3196]

Did you mention weight? I must have missed it.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Toaks without lid and MSR 6oz Firemaple combo 8.7oz

[@Olan...]

Just subbed mate 😉 Totally agree with your choice. I too discovered the Petrel 600 earlier this year and it has become my number 1 choice although i pair mine with the Soto Windmaster with igniter and try star stand. By the way that Toaks lid that you ditched fits the Petrel 600 perfectly and that what i use with my Petrel . I only ever boil water using mine so i dont need the holes to drain water. The Toaks lid weighs 11 grams less too😜

[@ISuckatHiking]

Thanks for the sub!

[@glennpaul9173]

You should have used both stoves with the Fire Maple pot and then weighed the fuel canister after using each one to get a measure of efficincy instead of just time to boil

[@ISuckatHiking]

@@glennpaul9173 I may try that

[@LionessHiker]

I like the Firemaple system but the differences are not as big in my setup to bother with changing. I use a slightly larger Toaks that has coated handles. I love my Soto windmaster. It works with the constant high winds in Oklahoma. I might be tempted to try a spill proof alcohol stove or a small firebox.

[@ISuckatHiking]

It's an upgrade for me!

[@LionessHiker]

@ it does look really nice but I need to replace my tent. I can’t spend any more money on gear this month. My dog went crazy chasing a deer fly that bit him. He put his foot through my X-mid Pro 2. 🥲

[@GeWij]

What brand is the potgripper? Thanks

[@ISuckatHiking]

They are on Garage grown gear

[@GeWij]

@ thanks 👌🏼

[@P6009D]

The pans have different volumes. What is the weight of the two systems in comparison? The simpler pan can be used on more heat sources. If one saves gas, then you must equalize the weight of both kitchens before the hike and after the hike. How many days does the hike have to be for it to be worthwhile? I think you have to calculate more parameters to get something to go by.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Toaks without lid and MSR 6oz Firemaple combo 8.7oz

[@WoodAllTrails]

Love my FireMaple G3 pot and the Hornet 2 stove!!!

[@ISuckatHiking]

Nice

[@klarsen100]

total weights?

[@ISuckatHiking]

Toaks without lid and MSR 6oz Firemaple combo 8.7oz

[@taber247]

Thanks for sharing. No reply necessary. Pity no weight comparison. And fuel usage comparison too may have been of interest. I should receive my GreenPeak stove this week, I have the pot and added their cosey. Like you I am very impressed with the set up.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Toaks without lid and MSR 6oz Firemaple combo 8.7oz

[@m1sterpunch]

MSR makes a sweet little standalone piezo lighter that I use with my BRS so that I can have a lighter for other things.

[@ISuckatHiking]

I will check that out!

[@tomconway8881]

Enjoyable well presented video. Thanks

[@ISuckatHiking]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@jasongergal9215]

I recently got the Fire Maple also. Instead of the Green Peak I paired mine with the Fire Maple Hornet 2. It’s lighter than the Green Peak by about an ounce and a half. Save some weight. Check it out.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Nice I will, does it have an ignitor?

[@jasongergal9215]

@@ISuckatHiking no, unfortunately it doesn’t, but I carry a lighter with me.

[@SticksandStonesBJJ]

Very nice!

[@ISuckatHiking]

Thanks!

[@DroidHDAL-n2c]

Weight difference?

[@ISuckatHiking]

Toaks without lid and MSR 6oz Firemaple combo 8.7oz

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

If it were smaller, I'd consider it. It looks like an amazing system though

[@ISuckatHiking]

It's not as small but I love the features

[@fournierluc2205]

Thank you for the report, it was informative. You did not put that X rubber band in your list of items.

[@ISuckatHiking]

True I will add it

[@ISuckatHiking]

Just added

[@ralphjesseman6562]

Good video, just not fully effective. Gas comparison of gas volume used would have been handy, along with weight. Boil time is good, no doubt.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Thanks for the tips!

[@alphiedimo6912]

hello, interesting great vids. But to be more complete in your "Vs comparaison" you should maybe add a weight heavier test and a toxic material test (as aluminium has a solid bad reputation compare to titanium about BPA, PFAS..). But as I said 1st thank you for the sharing of this interesting discover. Regards

[@ISuckatHiking]

Toaks without lid and MSR 6oz Firemaple combo 8.7oz

[@rone7927]

Boiling water in a shorter time, does not equal better efficiency!

[@ISuckatHiking]

@rone7927 If the gas is on less time, then it's more efficient, right?

[@iwalker3809]

​@@ISuckatHikingIf you wanted better FUEL efficiency, ie to use less fuel to boil a certain volume of water, you turn the stove down from full blast. More heat is then transferred into the water and less wasted up the outside of the pot. Def worth checking out GearSkeptic on YTube and his superb series of videos on pot width/wind effects/heat exchanger benefits etc

[@maxlutz3674]

@@ISuckatHiking It depends on the gas flow. The container should be weighed to determine the actual gas consumption.

[@ISuckatHiking]

@@maxlutz3674 I will check that out

[@rungavagairun]

I don't see a whole lot of difference between the Fire Maple lid and the Toaks lid you ditched. Both have straining holes. But have a handle. You can argue that the FM lid is designed better, but the functions you pointed out are there for both. My cook kit is Toaks 750, BRS 3000t, with the same Sea to Summit cup you've got instead of the Toaks lid. I carry the cup mostly because I like the measurements inside it. They are easier to read for my old man eyes than the measurements inside the Toaks pot. Haha. I don't really ever cook inside my cook pot. It's just for boiling water, so straining isn't a valued feature for me personally.

[@ISuckatHiking]

The first difference is that you can't touch the toaks lid when it's hot at all. The holes in the toaks lid are vents more than straining holes. I have the BRS as well, but as of now, I prefer this setup even if it's 3oz heavier.

[@tom_olofsson]

Fire Maple makes good gear.

[@ISuckatHiking]

I agree!

[@willong1000]

Personally, although I do own some pots with a narrow-by-tall form factor, I prefer those that are wider and shorter. The tall, narrow systems have always struck me as accidents waiting to happen. More than three decades ago in a wilderness setting, I witnessed a friend's girlfriend sustain third-degree scalding burns to her foot when my friend accidentally knocked over a pot of boiling water that spilled onto her shoe. I don't ever want to hear a person scream like that again! I don't know that it was the case, but I suspect that tall narrow cook systems for backpacking have been developed primarily for their ability to consolidate pots, common fuel canisters, and burners into compact packages that will fit inside the side pouches of many rucks and frame packs that are on the market today. While not as convenient to pack, I believe that a proportionally wider pot transfers a greater percentage of heat from the source to the liquid contents. Hmm, 🤔I suppose I'll have to test my hypothesis similar to what you did with the Toaks vs Fire Maple systems. I'll let you know the results if I ever get around to it! 😁

[@ISuckatHiking]

I think having water in any container with the way the stove is on top of the gas canister still makes it top heavy. I burnt myself in the same way your friend did. This system makes it less likely since the pot is attached to the canister. Please let me know.

[@yuriklaver4639]

A gas-burner would not be my choice on longer trips. Too many parts than can fail, it happend to me, twice. I would bring an alcohol stove, especially in winter.

[@ISuckatHiking]

@yuriklaver4639 my thru hike of the AT was stoveless

[@yuriklaver4639]

@@ISuckatHiking Aah that explains why you don't know what a good stove is.

[@petemainacc]

A bit silly that everyone bought fancy expensive titanium gear because thry didn't want aluminum. But then a trendy aluminum pot shows up and all of a sudden everyone is OK with aluminium. Stainless steel or titanium for me. I'm not too keen on using alimunim cooking gear. Much of the eficient gain comes from the material no less.

[@ISuckatHiking]

@@petemainacc i just enjoy the features, I actually thought it was Titainum when I first got it

[@memathews]

Yeah, trends. Aluminum has been my choice for 60-odd years, cheap, light, and the best at even heat transfer. Also, no known health issues with aluminum pots and pans.

[@petemainacc]

@@memathews but there have been studies that found that aluminium does have health effects. Many governmental institutions recommend against it, particular with acidic foods. Like tomato

[@memathews]

@@petemainacc Yes, aluminum in large concentrations has health effects, but not in the general daily use of cookware. Cooking acidic foods in aluminum can raise the amount of aluminum exposure and it can bother some sensitive individuals, especially those with diabetes, but it's not a big problem for most people according to the CDC and other research. New anodized aluminum further lowers exposure, but I'm still cooking tomato-based spaghetti sauces in a 70+ year old aluminum pot without effects on my 70+ year old body (which is only an anecdotal days point).

[@petemainacc]

@@memathews I agree is probably such a small effect to the point of being negletible. I implied that a little bit. People exaggerate the effects of it so they have an excuse to buy expensive gear. Now the trend shifts... And apparently, it was that big of a problem to start with. But I think it also depends on how you use it. If you have a Trangia system and use it as it is meant to, it probably is not problem. But if you put your camping pots to abuse, such as putting it on open fire or in some extreme cases even on top of glowing lava. Then perhaps aluminum is not the most recommended material. Personally I love twiggy stoves and cooking on camp fires and BBQ pits. For that reason my favorite material is stainless steel. Which is a great material with amazing durability. But I recon aluminum is the most efficient. As demonstrated by this video.

[@michaelspooren9213]

Unfortunately, you didn't compare the weight of the two setups. I definitely prefer ultra-light equipment.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Toaks without lid and MSR 6oz Firemaple combo 8.7oz

[@Hiker_who_Sews]

Nice review. Something that would be interesting/helpful, "In November 2024, this cost me....$" My son and I laugh at each other's cooking style. He's ADHD, and chants "cook on high till done". I carry more ordinary grocery store meals that cook a little slower over a lower flame. How well a stove can be adjusted is important to me, but not him.

[@ISuckatHiking]

@Hiker_who_Sews i don't typically do backpacking meals so I like adjustments

[@libettrick]

Seems like an infomercial… solving problems that the most basic levels of care would solve with your previous system.

[@ISuckatHiking]

@libettrick I've been using the old system for 4 years, so it took a big deal for me to want to change

[@drytool]

I like the Polaris stove, as it has a micro regulator, better for winter and high altitude (I live in Colorado). It fits the Petrel exactly like the Greenpeak.

[@ISuckatHiking]

I'll check it out

[@DudeWilson-g9r]

Only thing i dont like about that firemaple pot is that its made out of aluminum

[@ISuckatHiking]

Yea, I looked into it, and I think it's fine

[@johnavery3372]

What about weight differences?!🤓🤔

[@ISuckatHiking]

Toaks without lid and MSR 6oz Firemaple combo 8.7oz

[@lindatipton413]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@ISuckatHiking]

Thanks

[@ronec2092]

No information on weight and size difference. Other wise nicely presented.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Toaks without lid and MSR 6oz Firemaple combo 8.7oz

[@TheChantybb]

Weight? It all comes down to the weight! 😂

[@ISuckatHiking]

Toaks without lid and MSR 6oz Firemaple combo 8.7oz

[@tomballard8433]

Thanks the nice video! I love youtube and the people who devote time to make the videos. I love them. I learn a lot, and, I get a chance to share knowledge from my side of the fence. Today I watched your video on the new Firemaple cook pot. I agree, it is nice. I got one for my birthday a couple weeks ago. I too own and love using my Toaks 700ml pot with my Windmaster stove. Nice combo, but the handle is dangerous when it is hot, and when I forget to use the leather piece I have to use as protection. I asked for the Firemaple pot because the stove and support items would fit better in it, after I got the adapter got the stove. Last night, I thought I had everything tuned in and was ready to start planning a pack trip, but after putting the pot in its little black bag, and started to put it in my backpacking gear box, a super serious issue with the pot revealed itself. The sharp prongs on the handle jabbed into my hand through the stuff sack. OOOOPS! THIS WON'T WORK. JUST CANNOT HAVE SOMETHING THIS SHARP IN MY BACKPACK, DOING DAMAGE TO MY OTHER GEAR, WHICH IS EXPENSIVE! I am 73 years old, and have been an avid back packer since I started in 1986. This is only the second time I have run onto gear that would damage other gear! I have a down sleeping bag that would probably cost more than 1000 dollars to replace or repair. I surely don't want a cheap little cook pot to tear it or anything else up. I am not sure what a proper solution to this issue is, but it cannot remain this way long, or I will toss it in the trash. While trying to solve the challenge, I found an old yogurt container that was big enough to slip over the the top of the closed pot, and protect my other gear from the sharp prongs sticking out. It's a temp solution. Maybe someone else has discovered this also and has a better solution. The second piece of gear that use to damage to my gear was my first backpack. An old metal frame KELTY. Carried it many a miles, but it damaged some of my gear and a friend's gear, because the attachment rings that held the fabric to the from had some serious sharp snagging points. I still have the pack, and have used it as a loaner when taking someone new out on the trail, but, before we go, we wrap all these sharp points with several layers of protective tape, then keep an eye on then. They are very dangerous!!! Thanks again for your gear review. Please check out what I am bring to your attention, then see you and others can arrive at a solution!!!

[@ISuckatHiking]

I will see if mine is like that. Maybe it was a mistake on yours

[@tomballard8433]

@ISuckatHiking I found out mine was still within the 30 day return.. I returned it to Amazon today. Too dangerous to keep. Sooner or later it was going to rip or tear something.

[@ISuckatHiking]

@@tomballard8433 i looked over mine today and don't see anything that would tear something

[@indigowendigo8464]

Its hard to take anyone seriously who doesn't use an alcohol stove

[@ISuckatHiking]

@@indigowendigo8464 then I will never be taken seriously 😆 🤣 😂

[@indigowendigo8464]

@ISuckatHiking gas is OK if you don't travel globally

[@Mick_Say_Trail_Sports]

Love the video - hate the dumb sound effects

[@ISuckatHiking]

@@Mick_Say_Trail_Sports thanks for the suggestion and support!

[@Mick_Say_Trail_Sports]

@@ISuckatHiking You are welcome...

[@f2i7afg345wz]

Lol. That doesn't have more volume. Isn't the Fire Maple is elevated an inch on the bottom?

[@ISuckatHiking]

It has the heat fins under, but it for sure holds more water than the toaks

[@f2i7afg345wz]

@ISuckatHiking Ahh. okay. My bad. 👍

[@yuriklaver4639]

Toaks is the way to go. Got my Toaks three years now, no reason to get rid of.

[@ISuckatHiking]

I have had mine for 3 years, but this is an upgrade that is worth it to me.

[@yuriklaver4639]

@@ISuckatHiking An upgrade with no direction - unless you are selling stuff ;-)

[@ISuckatHiking]

@yuriklaver4639 I'm not selling anything. This is just a video based on choices I make about what I will use. I burnt my leg with my toaks pot because of stability, so again, it's what is best for me. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment, I really appreciate that.

[@yuriklaver4639]

@@ISuckatHiking Oh come on. Give me reasons, not this bullshit.

[@techguy9023]

I use an Imusa grease pot in aluminum from Walmart. $7 holds almost a quart. Wide base. When not using it with my Jetboil Mighty Mo I use a diy Caldera Cone and alcohol burner with my 1L Trangia pot. Made it to roll up inside the pot. Saved breakfast a couple of Springs ago when the isobutane wouldn’t vaporize (25 degrees and 6000 feet) even though I kept the canister in my sleeping bag. Fed three people with it that day.

[@snowleopard1918]

Go to an electronics store and pick up a computer fan grate, cut the mounting ears off it and now you have a small lightweight grate for your little stove. No more pots tipping over. Years ago MSR made the expresso star, which was great for a three pot support configuration.

[@ISuckatHiking]

@@snowleopard1918 interesting 🤔

[@gwenkuenzli2488]

Thank you!!! Added to my cart! I would love to learn about Leo’s gear also.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Coming soon!

[@erikax1896]

I just love your channel!!! I first saw you on Kyle Hates Hiking and now following you for the last few months 👌 I’m just a Rocky Mountain cowgirl now living in Germany so it’s so nice to feel like part of a “family “ back home… I’m wanting to do the AT in 2026 🙏🏼⭐️

[@ISuckatHiking]

Do it! I spent 4 years in Germany

[@erikax1896]

@ I’m in the boring flatlands close to the Netherlands 🤦‍♀️😂 big horse country I need to see more mountains…

[@trioultimo]

Thats the wrong way to go. Its narrow, its way heavier, its less versatile.

[@ISuckatHiking]

It works best for me

[@deevine7940]

The Fire Maple Pot is made of Aluminium-- so not so great health-wise.

[@ISuckatHiking]

I looked into it, and I think it's ok if I don't scratch the coating. What's not good for us health wise anymore

[@jwall3873]

Too much filler Less talk More rock

[@ISuckatHiking]

@jwall3873 I'll keep that in mind, thanks for watching

[@markdoyle8713]

Save your brain skip the aluminum. Not sure if titanium is better but the aluminum is reactive .

[@ISuckatHiking]

I will look into that

[@Rpg39_]

Aluminum is fine to cook and eat out of. Aluminum leaching into food is minimal - even acidic foods do not leech significant amounts of aluminum. 1 single heartburn tablet contains 200x more aluminum than tomato sauce cooked in aluminum.

[@ISuckatHiking]

@@Rpg39_ thanks

[@DanielBelliveau-y5x]

Comment Below .

[@ISuckatHiking]

😆 🤣 😂

[@silvercommander]

Dumb decision

[@ISuckatHiking]

It's the one that works for me

[@BradtheButcher1234]

I wont use disposable canister stoves..high tippy unstable and not cost effective.

[@ISuckatHiking]

Fair enough!

[@BradtheButcher1234]

@ISuckatHiking my msr whisperlite has been great for 28 years.30 below celcius, high alpine it just works........amd it's low, I use a triangia alcohol stove for simmering with it