Why I hate Gibson Guitars 2

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Gregory Henley

Gregory Henley

Күн бұрын

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@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that poster was given to me by a friend when I retired in 2012. So, I think the message on the poster says more to me than the picture. It's all the things that make music such a great part of life. And since there's really no image of the headstock, and there are so many LP-style guitars; it's cool! Hey, man thanks so much for checking out the video. I don't want to see Gibson fail. They just gave me a raw deal that still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. And I appreciate your comments.
@roychan2160
@roychan2160 2 жыл бұрын
I feel for you. The expectations when you decide to 'upgrade' to a so called quality instrument just to be let down like that. A decent tech can get it repaired but that's not the point. A guitar at this price should come out of the box perfect.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Your so correct. Thanks for watching the video, and for your comments.
@edwardboggs7696
@edwardboggs7696 2 жыл бұрын
Epiphone Dot or Sheraton are great - I have a 2015 Dot. Sounds great for jazz.
@thenowherestairs
@thenowherestairs 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Gregory - It's unfortunate to hear your story it's not what anyone would want, especially when you are excited to receive a new guitar. Great informative video, thank you.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks so much for taking the time to watch it, it was too long..lol. And thanks for your comment. Stay safe.
@joju991
@joju991 3 жыл бұрын
Thirty years ago I bought a new ES 175D. After one year the fret bindings were broken. The guitar case never lost the stink of a chemical fabrique. I sold it ten years later with no loss. But Gibson is no more a producer of my choice.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like there are so many of us that have had similar experience's with Gibson. They don't have to worry about me ever buying another of their products. I just picked up a Eastman AR603-15 Archtop, its the most beautiful and well built Jazz guitar I've ever owned. All solid woods and craftmanship second to none! And still less money than a comparable Gibson. You live, and you learn! Thanks for checking out my video, its most appreciated. Stay Safe.
@edjackson4986
@edjackson4986 11 ай бұрын
@@Gregabalese hello I have a GB 10 Ibanez I love it. How was your Eastman doing?
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 11 ай бұрын
The GB10 is a great guitar. A friend of mine has had one for 25 years and he still loves it. I love my Eastman AR603. Its has the small size of the GB10 and it sounds amazing I keep the Eastman hudmidfied in its case and it looks and plays great. Good luck with the GB10, its a keeper, and thanks for your comments.
@dogpdsound
@dogpdsound 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your problems i went thru the same thing and never went back to Gibson, i hope everything is going your way now.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear you had a similar experience. I was able to get about $800 for the guitar from my local Sam Ash store; I couldn't sell it otherwise. But that was a long way from the $2100 price tag. I took a bath on it. But now I clean of Gibson and have since purchased a beautiful Eastman AR603-15. Thanks for checking out my video and for your comments.
@martianmurray
@martianmurray 3 жыл бұрын
I think I had a similar problem with an SG. I had the same problem with the high e string coming off the neck and I thought it was me as well. I have an Epiphone SG now and I’m happy with it at a 1/3 or 1/4 of the price. I think you get what you pay for but some companies are living off of past reputations.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I know it was a long, boring video-but I had to say how I felt about my experience with Gibson. Just bought a Eastman AR603-15, its my "forever guitar." Sooooo much better than Gibson. I wish you good luck with the SG. Stay safe and thanks for checking out my video. Much appreciated.
@frankoconnor8141
@frankoconnor8141 Жыл бұрын
If your still looking for a replacement to that thing they sold you Gregory, may I suggest a few alternatives, Gretsch, Epiphone, Guild, or Ibanez. they all do nice small bodied Jazz boxes, and the one I have in mind to get next, is the Epiphone Casino Coupe, hollow bodied E335 style.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese Жыл бұрын
Hey Frank, I have moved from my house (3 story/5 bedrooms) and I no longer have the space to work on guitars. I'm 73, now, and when my wife and I decided to downsize, I wanted just 2 guitars I could play and not have to worry about. So, I ended up with an Eastman AR603 Hollow body (15-inch bout) and a D'Angelico Excel SS single cut (14 1/2-inch lower bout) Both are great, and all I have to do is tune them up once in a while. When I let my house go, I also let all memories of Gibson go too. Thanks so much for your comments. All the best to you. Happy playing!
@DBCisco
@DBCisco 5 жыл бұрын
This is why I have two dozen Epiphones. I just bought my first and last Gibson a couple weeks ago.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 5 жыл бұрын
Wish you the best with your guitars. Thanks for checking out the video
@mikeloar5352
@mikeloar5352 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I love Gibson guitars and like you I do want to get one. I just purchased a used American Fender Standard Stratocaster from Guitar Center. I ordered it through the "G C" near me. After I ordered and paid for it I started watching KZbin post about buying used through "G C". I got worried I was going to get a lemon and was wishing I had checked things out before I ordered and paid. However I saw a post that said if you do order from a "G C" store and pick it up there you can change your mind if it's not up to par. I was lucky, the Fender is excellent. I still want to get a Gibson too. After my experience and watching your post here I've learned more than I knew before. I hope this all works out for you. Thanks again. Jazz music is my favorite.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike I hope the GC purchase works out well for you, and thanks for taking the time to watch my video and for your comments. All the best.
@johnpick8336
@johnpick8336 2 жыл бұрын
You sure put in the work to deserve a decent guitar ! Unfortunately many of us have similar experiences, mine was Keith at Roscoe Guitars, thank you for posting yours. Good Luck on your Jazz Guitar Journal.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you find a great one! And thanks for your comments.
@patrickford1885
@patrickford1885 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, in one of your videos you said use a quilter am. I’ve heard about quilters, how do you like in which model do you have. Thanks.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 3 жыл бұрын
To me, Quilter is one of the best amp out there. They make great jazz amps and can be used for most forms of guitar music. they are solid state. They have a wonderful array of controls that give you the ability to get almost any sound you're looking for. I use the Micropro Mach 2. It has an 8 " speaker, It really has too many features to mention in this short reply. If you want to know about all it settings, go to their website at www.quilterlabs.com for more info. I've had mine for about 7 years, and I love it. My guitars come and go, but the Quilter always stays right here. If you want to really hear how it sounds, check out any Rich Severson KZbin videos. The only amp he uses is the Quilter Micropro 2. (kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5arYqOXjtZ_h6s) Good Luck, and thanks for watching my video.
@stratman1021
@stratman1021 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a Gibson Les Paul Classic about 20 years ago and I traded that in for a Strat. The nut was too high and it was almost impossible to tune. Basic "cowboy" chords sounded out of whack no matter how much you tried to tune it. The plastic pickup mounts were cracking. I recently bought an Epiphone Les Paul 50's, an SG in all black with gold p/u's and hardware, and a 50's Flying V all for less than the price of a lower end Gibson Les Paul and the quality is much better. I can't afford a Gibson and even if I could I still wouldn't buy one. Good luck on your next purchase.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your comments and for checking out my video.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Hello John, your are absolutely correct. There are so many great guitars being made at this present time, so there is no need to invest in "junk." Just gotta do some research and pick something that's good for you. After my experience with Gibson, I'm now playing Eastman. I have an AR603-15 and I love it. Thanks so much for your comments.
@bluefish1875
@bluefish1875 2 жыл бұрын
hi Gregory, I got myself an Eastman SB59 and it's flawless, a lot of snobbery about it being hand crafted in China but I'd take Eastman over Gibson any day
@garyb7575
@garyb7575 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Gregory, just curious if you ever got the replacement guitar fixed up in the end?
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
No, I didn't. The body had really bad swirls and scratch marks all over it and the electronics didn't work properly. I ended up selling it to a luthier I work with at Sam Ash Music. He has the ability to totally remove and repaint the body and neck. Since I don't have the tools or know-how to do a restoration, I sold it to him for half price. I took a little betting on the price, but after my experience with Gibson, I was just glad to get rid of it, and get a few dollars out of it. Thanks for checking it out and for your comments. Stay safe
@ChaseTheHeat
@ChaseTheHeat 2 жыл бұрын
Gibson is in its death throes, and they deserve it. They are corporate bullies and have lost touch with younger players. I always wanted one as a kid. When I got to a point where I could purchase one, I did. I have subsequently owned many. I currently own two. Recently I traded a guitar I didn't play much for a brand new Strandberg Boden. That did it for Gibson. When playing my Strandberg it made something wicked clear to me. Every time I play a Gibson, I am fighting the guitar one way or another. They look good and sound good, but nothing compared to my Strandberg. Gibson deserves everything they get. They have become a meme, a joke, and nobody as Gibson seems to care.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
hello, Gibson has made many a substandard product. Anyway, a lot of people seem to feel just like you and me. I do hope they get their act together and correct the problem with their guitars and their customer service. Thanks so much for checking out my video and for your comments.
@Johnny_Doe
@Johnny_Doe 2 жыл бұрын
That does suck Greg. Gibson’s are very nice guitars, if you get a good one….No excuse for Gibson’s QC though. Have you taken it back to the shop to have them check the pots and wiring?
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Hey John, no I never could send it back. I email Gibson a dozen times trying to get some help, but they would never return my emails. I think they thought, "we sent you another guitar so be happy and leave us alone!" I managed to repair the electronics, then I sold it to Sam Ash music store near me. Hey, I don't wish Gibson to fail, I've said that many times, and your right about them having made some great guitars. It just was my experience with them was terrible, and their CS is the worst...!!! lol Thanks for checking out the video and for your comments. Stay Safe!
@beginner_electric_guitar
@beginner_electric_guitar 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Gregory. The loud hum or buzz your getting is coming from a wire that should have been grounded but has become disconnected from ground. If you build your own kit guitars you may be okay with doing this yourself with a little solder and a soldering iron. There may be some circuit diagrams on the internet that may be of some help. Thanks for sharing your video.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, Thanks so much for checking out the video, and for your input. I kind of figured it was most likely a ground wire or perhaps a bad switch. It doesn't seem like a big job. Its just the fact that I have to put a new, $1799.00 guitar in the shop or take it apart and try and find the problem myself. Especially since this is the second one I had! Thanks again for taking the time to write me. Most appreciated.
@Douglas_I
@Douglas_I 2 жыл бұрын
I know it's not the point but I think that ground wire coming loose is common with a lot of the bigger brands. I had the same issue on the new PRS SE custom 2408 eriza verde that was made this year. I also had it happen to a fender tele (Mexican) from this year as well. It was that silver 35th anniversary tele. Both are incredibly nice guitars other than that. And yeah that checklist seems like it's just another marketing scheme too. I had a 2019 Les Paul studio that had that same checklist while also having more than a couple issues that were obviously checked off on the list. If I'm remembering right, mine wasn't even checked off in each box. It just had a vertical line going through all the boxes. It was also claiming to be plek'd but there's no effing way that's true.
@Douglas_I
@Douglas_I 2 жыл бұрын
Again I know you shouldn't have to do this, but the shop you bought the first one from would probably fix that for free and it would only take a minute or 2. The shop I go to would do it for me right away. They've done it for me on guitars I didn't even buy there.
@Douglas_I
@Douglas_I 2 жыл бұрын
One more thing I should tell you is I got a 60s style standard a few months ago and it's absolutely perfect. I think they have started to listen to their customers a little and not be so focused only on profit!
@janataylor8518
@janataylor8518 2 жыл бұрын
Dang buddy can't believe you had that much trouble with your 2 guitars I have had Gibson guitars all my life never had problems like this ever i love Gibson guitars but i can see your frustration and i understand it hope you find a guitar you can injoy
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Man, Thanks I appreciate your comments and for watching my video. I know Gibson has made many "great guitars," and I don't wish them to fail as so many enjoy their guitars all over the world. But I was not one of them-I just got 2 bad ones, I guess! Thanks again and stay safe.
@colinbutler5676
@colinbutler5676 2 ай бұрын
I am Australian and I like so much about America especially their guitars I purchased my first Gibson 89 prehistoric it's a very fine piece of work bloody heavy it cost 3000 Australian dollar think it's about the Chinese for a fraction of the cast you're making amazing cars that are so playable the the they are making guitars for a very good cost in some ways lots better than the Gibson for example I have the first issue of the Sheraton epiphones 2005 semi Hollow mini humbuckers absolutely Flawless made in China
@colinbutler5676
@colinbutler5676 2 ай бұрын
I welcome some comments on that
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 ай бұрын
Hello, Thanks for watching my video and for your comments. Gibson has made some fine products and I wish them no ill will. They screw me over, and I'll never repurchase one of their products. Still, I don't wish them to fail. Epiphone is making a lot of great instruments and I have owned an ES339 from Epip. Now, as you stated, there are many great guitar makers on both the low and high end. So there's no need for anyone to have to accept sub-standard products. "All the best to you down under."
@TheMasonator777
@TheMasonator777 2 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with you. Gibson should sue themselves. I have a friend/customer that had an intermittent bridge pickup in a brand new $5000 custom shop Les Paul ‘59 reissue. I know it was an intermittent pickup, not an intermittent pot, switch or connection, because I removed it from the guitar and installed it in a test instrument connected directly to a jack and it worked for over a week. It then cut out during a final test, and confirmed my suspicion. This was after reflowing any iffy looking solder and testing the likely suspects among the components. I have never in 20 years as a professional tech even seen a new quality budget guitar with a bad pickup.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
It's so frustrating to have to do all that work and repairs to a $5000 instrument. Thanks for the comments.
@Earthshaker1965
@Earthshaker1965 3 ай бұрын
It's so sad to lay out that much money for no customer service and products that don't work. I definitely sympathize with you Gregory. They just can't seem to pull their heads out of their butts.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 3 ай бұрын
hey Earthshaker1965, Thanks so much for your comments and for checking out my video. I hope Gibson has improved some sense this came out. All the best. Greg
@darrendixon5797
@darrendixon5797 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about your dealings with Gibson, my heart goes out to you, i myself will only play Ibanez artist model guitars from the early 80s the AR 2619 in particularly and is very much like a les Paul....only much better in my opinion, you mentioned you liked George Benson in you video well he knew it as he has always played an Ibanez. As you probably know Ibanez made Gibson copies in the 70s and some of those were as good or better than the real thing!...ha ha, i would like to see the Japanese buy Gibson out and start making Gibson guitars with the quality they and the customers deserve!!
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Ibanez makes some pretty awesome guitars, and you're also right about their older models-many were great. Thanks so much for your comments and for viewing my video. I wish you all the best, and stay safe!
@saltpeter7429
@saltpeter7429 2 жыл бұрын
I've found that I've never gone wrong with an Ibanez. And I have heard non players making fun of Ibanez as if they are no good because they are common and inexpensive. That's silly.
@1sttvbn
@1sttvbn 2 жыл бұрын
I have 5 Les Pauls, 2 SG’s, 1 Firebird. 40 years in between. Never had any issues. Sorry for your experience.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad you had that experience. Thanks for your comment and all the best to you!
@frankierays
@frankierays 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they sent you a Chibson with a Gibson neck. Did you try to get a full refund?
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
I seen some Chibson's that were in better shape...lol. Thanks for the comment.
@ponchlove2393
@ponchlove2393 2 жыл бұрын
Aria fa-71 will create lots of great playing pleasure .you deserve a reward.!!!!!!
@fordhammie
@fordhammie 2 жыл бұрын
Wowed... what did Chibson do with that guitar? Full refund? 😁 I did my research and decided to go with an ESP/LTD Les Paul...😁
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Good choice!
@fordhammie
@fordhammie 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gregabalese Thx... correction: it's an ESP/LTD Eclipse 😁
@grantkoeller8911
@grantkoeller8911 2 жыл бұрын
Gibson dropped the ball when they shipped it. They should have notified you. Your guitar has messed up electronics
@williamcole9040
@williamcole9040 2 жыл бұрын
Sad to hear your comments….my 2 SJ200s and Hummingbird Custom Shop from 2001 are up there with the best.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad for you. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see Gibson fail and they have made some amazing instruments. It just "my" experience with them was not great. I waited a long time to save for that guitar and they sent me 2 bad ones. So I can't go back there! Thanks for checking out the video and for your comments.
@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT
@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, just came across your channel. I tried a Gibson SG at a guitar center and then tried an Epiphone. The price difference was about $1700. I took the Epiphone home, and saved a bunch of money. I just didn’t like the Gibson.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Hope that Epiphone serves you well. Good luck and thanks for checking out the video.
@peterburi2727
@peterburi2727 2 жыл бұрын
Gregory, I know how you feel. We are about the same age. I sadly feel the customer service saying "the customer comes first" is a thing of the past. Sad story.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Peter, yeah, it seems good customer service is declining. But some businesses still do a good job, like Reverb, Sweetwater, and others. Just gotta do your research and cross your fingers..lol. Thanks so much for your comments.
@manta0324
@manta0324 2 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend Eastman guitars. I think you’ll find your perfect guitar amongst their great range.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Funny you should say that! I took what little money I received from the sale of the Gibson, pulled out my charge card, and purchased an Eastman AR603-15. It's a small body, all solid wood hollow body Jazz guitar-and I couldn't be happier. My Eastman is the best guitar I have owned. Thanks for watching my video and for your comments. Stay Safe!
@grantkoeller8911
@grantkoeller8911 2 жыл бұрын
Introduced in 1949 and still made today, Gibson's ES-175 boasts the longest continuous production run in electric guitar history. Take the ES-175's iconic body shape with its f-holes and Florentine cutaway, shrink it down, turn it into a thinline semi-hollowbody with a center block, and you have the Gibson Memphis ES-235, an instrument that can do it all. Perfect for jazz, blues, rock, and any type of fusion you care to invent; the ES-235 can sound warm and mellow in the verse and viciously shred the solo. Combining the best of solidbody and hollowbody designs, Gibson further enhanced this instrument's masterful tonal dexterity by specifying a pair of their superb BurstBucker Pro humbucking pickups. Handcrafted by Gibson Nobody makes a semi-hollowbody guitar like Gibson. The ES-235 is handcrafted for quality craftsmanship you can count on, and from a city that knows how blues should sound. Carefully selected maple and poplar tonewoods, spruce top bracing, and its dual f-hole thinline acoustic body cavity with maple center block give the Gibson Memphis ES-235 its unmistakable tone and sustain.
@williemason8178
@williemason8178 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Gibson ES 335 that I bought in 1990. That guitar purrs like a kitten and plays like butter. Extremely versatile for country, rock, blues and jazz. The jazz tones that I get out of this guitar are anazing. So, I guess that I bought mine before Gibson started having issues.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 3 жыл бұрын
Hey my friend, don't get me wrong. There are many, many great Gibson guitars out there. I was just caught in the middle of a really bad period for Gibson. I do not hope they fail! Just my experience was not a good one. Stay safe and thanks for your comments.
@TheTektronik
@TheTektronik 2 жыл бұрын
As bad as it may seem nothing has changed. Somebody did a review of a 2,800 USD Gibson Flying V DM edition and the quality is bad for it's asking price.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
They (Gibson) better get it together. With so much competition out there, you gotta do things right. Thanks for your comments.
@jimcunningham5376
@jimcunningham5376 2 жыл бұрын
Bought an acoustic that fell apart in my hands on a warm summer day !!!
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but that made me laugh...Hope you find something you love, and thanks for checking out my video.
@joshuataylor672
@joshuataylor672 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever demand your money back or did you finally get that guitar straight?
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Sold it to Sam Ash!
@joshuataylor672
@joshuataylor672 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gregabalese that had to suck. All that time and money invested and nothing.
@markreierstad2418
@markreierstad2418 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Gibson should spend less time and effort being a "music lifestyle" company and making guitars people don't want and more time on QC. Far too many flaws for the price, especially when Epiphone makes a much more affordable and reliable version of Gibson's junk. They could also work on customer service and satisfaction...
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! I'm not a very good player, but I do know a good guitar from a junk none, and its not always about price. And now there are so many other brands to choose from, no one wants to buy junk at that price. Not only did the guitar fail, but so did their service. They had a chance to make it right and they failed. Thanks a bunch for checking out my video. It's much appreciated. Stay safe.
@davidmeban2489
@davidmeban2489 2 жыл бұрын
you gotta take down the poster of the Les Paul! 😁. I just had a superb warranty experience with EVH/Fender. They have my loyalty now.
@otherGuise
@otherGuise 2 жыл бұрын
I did an Ibanez RMA for a signature guitar that was sold out in the states. Paid for shipping and they warned me that there's only one RMA tech to assess the RMA and the guitar was sold out, so I should expect a wait. By 2 weeks later they sent me a brand new Ibanez, same model and inspected by 4 different techs. Only issue is action under 1.5mm high e string has a low fret. Not a deal breaker, not out of hand for a thousand dollar guitar.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Glad yoiur got food customer service for Ibanez. Good luck, and thanks for you input.
@TB-bn8pg
@TB-bn8pg 2 жыл бұрын
I had a friend back in the 60's that had Gibsons. I was thinking about getting an LP until I went to see my pal at a gig. After each song he had to retune. You've got to be kidding. Also the LP's were heavy as hell. I went with a strat. Happy I did. However, my second hand Epi LP that I bought for $300 dollars plays great, looks beautiful and has single/double coil pickups.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found something you love. Thanks for watching my video and for your comments.
@grantkoeller8911
@grantkoeller8911 2 жыл бұрын
the neck radius did not match the nut radius, and the string spacing was off
@annarakannan6620
@annarakannan6620 3 жыл бұрын
I switched to Eastman 3 years ago. Best decision ever.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 3 жыл бұрын
Eastman is much better product at a better price. Thanks.
@the92project
@the92project 2 жыл бұрын
Yeap. My SB59v is better than any Gibson Les Paul under 7k.
@gavinyoung7085
@gavinyoung7085 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it sucks when a company you love does the dirty on you. I had a similar issue a few years ago with Australian guitar maker Maton. I had neck issues, but they just fobbed me off and stopped replying. It was a bolt on so I figured replacing the neck would be simple, but they'd stopped production on them. This was years ago and I still play and enjoy the guitar to this day. I just had to make a couple of very minor adjustments myself. Just recently, about 4 months ago, I got myself a Gibson SG Tribute. The cheapest entry level Gibson I could afford, and I absolutely love it. I made some adjustments to bridge and tailpiece height, but that's more personal preference. Only issue was with the vintage style tuners, they use two locating screws per tuner, but mine only had one screw in each tuner. Luckily the headstock had the holes pre drilled, so I just bought some extra screws and screwed them in. A slight oversight by Gibson QC I guess. It was pretty hard to spot. But yeah, I really like my SG. Hope you got your Gibson sorted out
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, these folks don't seem to understand (or don't care) that these "negative reviews" about crappy instruments and poor customer service can results in many lost sales! Thanks for checking out the video
@ericjam6346
@ericjam6346 2 жыл бұрын
You found out the hard way that brand don't mean anything.. If you are just starting I would recommend buying from a music store. Get your hands on it. See if anything happens or if it inspires you. How does the neck feel in your hands? Only you know what you like. It's hard to get that ordering online.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
No, I'm not just starting-but thanks for the advice. It was well taken. I really like that guitar, but the neck was so warped, and the second one had bad electronics. I was able to sell it and I put the money into an Eastman AR603-15, just beautuful! But I still wanted a small body (14-15 inches) because the big body jazz boxes are uncomfortable under my arm. I also purchased a D'Angelico Premier SS. It's also a nice guitar. Thanks for checking my video and for your comments.
@frankoconnor8141
@frankoconnor8141 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you`ve found what you were looking for, enjoy the new house, and guitars.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 8 ай бұрын
Sorry, I didn't see your comment sooner. Thanks so much for checking out the video. All the best to you!
@hr2186
@hr2186 3 жыл бұрын
Gretsch electromatic blow Gibson away for 400.00. Trust me...I own 4 Gibson's.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for viewing my video (Rant..lol) and for your comments. Hope you enjoy those Gretsch's!
@thyeconomy
@thyeconomy 2 жыл бұрын
I got a gretsch bass and a rat rod guitar and the feel and tone are so good and the price was just right.
@peterblackthorn3083
@peterblackthorn3083 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I enjoyed your video. Well done. I hope you eventually get some satisfaction. What I have learned through experience is to buy at a local store and test out all basic functions and make sure to return the guitar within the return period if not fully satisfied. Thanks
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct. The only problem is that most of the big box stores, such as Guitar Center, Sam Ash, don't carry most of the "high-end" guitars from Gibson and Fender if they're not the core line. These stores are so limited in their inventory, you're forced to purchase online from someone like Sweet Water or Reverb, etc. And you're also right about making sure you play it all you can within the return period to make sure it's OK. But these guitars come with a manufacturer warranty to the original owner for quality of workmanship after the retail store return period has ended. Gibson honored that warranty, they just did a very poor job of it. It was a perfect time for them to gain a customer. But they chose to send another bad guitar-that was worst than the first one. And they refused to answer any emails after that. So after 2 "poor-quality guitars," and poor customer service I was done! Thanks for watching the video and for your comments. Have a safe day!
@shawnstarks1743
@shawnstarks1743 2 жыл бұрын
Whew! This has always been a touchy topic for me. I’m not gonna say anything that hasn’t been said before. However, for me I always circle back to Fenders because they have more “dynamics” sound wise. You get more out of them. I play Stratocaster Deluxes
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
I had a couple of Fender's. Mainly Squier's and Classic Vibes. Never had to take one back and they were not a lot of money. Good luck with your Strat's and thanks for your comments.
@shawnstarks1743
@shawnstarks1743 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gregabalese Thanks for the response. I think with Gibsons. Their not consistent and have to really be picky when choosing one.
@lumberlikwidator8863
@lumberlikwidator8863 3 жыл бұрын
This sounds like a lot of American companies that under pay their workers and work them like farm animals. The guy or girl that was supposed to check out your replacement guitar probably had a month's worth of guitars to inspect and less than a week to get it done. Almost every company I've ever worked for has operated this way. Promise customers the moon and deliver them a piece of shit. If I go in a store once and get bad service then I give the company the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up to a worker having a bad day. But if it happens two or three times then I conclude that the company owners/management are assholes, that they treat their workers like crap, and that's why their employees don't give a shit.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your comments. I don't wish Gibson any bad fortune, they already have enough of that. I just know I won't be buying any of their products in the future. Thanks again for taking the time to watch my "rant." Stay safe!
@MrSoulauctioneer
@MrSoulauctioneer 2 ай бұрын
nobody's gettin underpaid at Gibson.
@lumberlikwidator8863
@lumberlikwidator8863 2 ай бұрын
@@MrSoulauctioneer One of the main reasons Gibson left Kalamazoo was because they wanted to bust the worker’s union. They went to a so-called “right to work “ state and that was the end of collective bargaining.
@ponchlove2393
@ponchlove2393 2 жыл бұрын
Greg,if you can find a deal on a Gibson " johnny smith" try it out 1st and see what you think.or look for a Ibanez gb 200. Only in xllnt shape.!!!!
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ponch, I waiting for the new Ibanez GB10SEfm to try. Thanks for all your comments.
@grantkoeller8911
@grantkoeller8911 2 жыл бұрын
Your ground wire might have come loose, on shipping.
@leonardskinerd7758
@leonardskinerd7758 2 жыл бұрын
That is simply unacceptable at that price range, sorry for your trouble.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching my video and for your comments. It's much appreciated. Stay Safe.
@stevenvandemsky7290
@stevenvandemsky7290 2 жыл бұрын
With Gibson it’s always hit and miss. I had some great Gibson guitars and some rather questionable ones in my lifetime. Everytime the ownership of the company changed, they tell you that the previous owner sucked and now everything is going to get better. But that was never ever the case. The company always stayed the same. You can find great Gibson guitars from any decade. Still my favourite guitar is a ´79 Les Paul Custom. But I wouldn’t recommend a Gibson to an aspiring guitar player, cause it can be too much trouble. You have got to know exactly what you want and how to handle issues and be prepared to take some money to get them fixed by a qualified luthier. Which is a shame considering the price they are asking for…
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching my video and for your insight.
@patrickford1885
@patrickford1885 3 жыл бұрын
Shame on Gibson. I’m so sorry you had to go through that what a bummer because I could tell how much you love guitars that is such a shame.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for you comments. You live and you learn. Stay Safe
@grantkoeller8911
@grantkoeller8911 2 жыл бұрын
Needed a new nut because of High E coming off the fret board
@real_fjcalabrese
@real_fjcalabrese 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a Heritage H535, and I haven't looked back.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Frederick, The Heritage (The old Gibson Guys) still make great guitars. You can't go wrong with Heritage! If you haven't already, check out Rich Severson on KZbin. He's a big Heritage Fan (kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5_daX6mi5hoo9E ). Thanks for your comments.
@kennethgroves6552
@kennethgroves6552 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the heads up I will not be purchasing a Gibson. I've purchased several epiphones. That's pretty sad when the economy line exceeds the quality of the top of the line. I'm just not impressed. My fender Stratocaster on the other hand I am very impressed.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you found an instrument you like. There's not much better than having a great guitar. Thanks for checking out my video.
@grantkoeller8911
@grantkoeller8911 2 жыл бұрын
You waited too long to contact the warranty, info
@Chinaguitarsceptic
@Chinaguitarsceptic 5 жыл бұрын
You sure had a hard time brother! Sorry about that :-(
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I appreciate your input and your comment.
@Chinaguitarsceptic
@Chinaguitarsceptic 5 жыл бұрын
@@Gregabalese cheers bro 👍
@gregsmall7238
@gregsmall7238 2 жыл бұрын
I played a 1955 Jazz guitar wasn't mine I went to a black church love those people it belongs to pastor s brother played great
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments.
@DBCisco
@DBCisco 5 жыл бұрын
The bridge pick up looks like the holder is in backwards
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 5 жыл бұрын
It OK, But thanks for watching out!
@ghostwolff1
@ghostwolff1 4 жыл бұрын
Bought my first gibson a few months ago its already gone , everyone of my epiphones has been better than that overpriced pile of toothpicks that they call a Gibson, never again its fender and g&l and schecter for me
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Ray, sorry I didn't reply sooner. For some reason I just missed you comments. Anyway I agree with you 100%. My first Gibson, was my last Gibson. Thanks for checking out my video and leaving your comments-it's much appreciated. Hope you're staying safe.
@wingnutmcspazatron3957
@wingnutmcspazatron3957 2 жыл бұрын
I've been nothing but satisfied with my Mexican Stratocaster and Mexican EVH Wolfgang. Love that factory in Mexico!
@ponchlove2393
@ponchlove2393 2 жыл бұрын
Aria guitars must make that fa-71 again ,just like first run....!!!!!
@stofopdenaald132
@stofopdenaald132 2 жыл бұрын
Bought a cheap TCM Les Paul copy recently. Plays flawlessy, 75 bucks 😆
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching my Video. Good luck with the TCM!
@samanthony6282
@samanthony6282 5 жыл бұрын
That’s pretty bad. Sounds like they sent you someone else’s returned guitar. Good video and explanation.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam, Thanks for checking it out, and for your comments. Even my luthier at Sam Ash has taken up the fight for me. I'll let you know the outcome.
@samanthony6282
@samanthony6282 5 жыл бұрын
Gregory Henley If someone at Gibson sees this video they should make things right for you. The ticks on the warranty card need to be looked at by Gibson. There is no excuse for this if their warranty card is to means anything. Hope it will be properly resolved Gregory.
@tomasbud7746
@tomasbud7746 2 жыл бұрын
The problem isn't just Gibson. Quality is pretty much an issue in all US corporate and mid-sized companies. Look at the US auto makers. They're in the same situation. The problem stems from the fact that the bean counters that run the companies are only interested in numbers. So the guys on the line pump them out as fast as they can meanwhile quality takes a dive. But hey ...... they've met the numbers. I couldn't stand that mindset that results in very mediocre products so for the last 30 years I live in Central Europe. Quality here doesn't take a hit for the sake of the bean counters like in the US.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment and for checking out my video.
@grantkoeller8911
@grantkoeller8911 2 жыл бұрын
Barney Kessel, Joe Pass, Wes Montgomery,
@SmelOdies
@SmelOdies 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same prob with my high E, but it’s my Tele not by Gibsons.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. At least you can change out the neck because the Tele is a bolt-on. Can't do that with a set-neck Gibson. There are some really great aftermarket necks out there for fender. I had a Classic Vibe Telecaster Thin line and got a great neck from Warmoth Guitar parts. Good luck and thanks for checking out my video.
@SmelOdies
@SmelOdies 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gregabalese Thank you. I’m gonna take it down to guitar Center tomorrow and see what they say. As you noted, it’s an annoyance that doesn’t go away unless it’s fixed.
@frankcost
@frankcost 3 жыл бұрын
I once tried out a similar Gibson guitar (A Howard Roberts) that was priced at a couple thousand dollars. When I turned the guitar upside down a pile of sawdust came out of the F-hole onto my pants.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 3 жыл бұрын
That's funny! Thanks for watching my long "rant." All the best to you, and I hope you find a dust free guitar...lol.
@Lordofmrak
@Lordofmrak 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. Important information, definitely will avoid Gibson.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching it, it's much appreciated. I ended up with a beautiful D'angelico Excel SS, and a Eastman Ar603-15. They're both great sounding with great construction. Thanks again; all the best to you!
@ponchlove2393
@ponchlove2393 2 жыл бұрын
Hey,if you talk to mark Agnese,ask him where he will be working next week
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks "funny."
@oscardarrell
@oscardarrell 2 жыл бұрын
i never bought any of that expensive axe,,i built myself a guitar and thats all.
@pgroove163
@pgroove163 8 ай бұрын
Guilds have some great semi's...
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for checking out the video. All the best to you
@gregsmall7238
@gregsmall7238 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to buy a Gibson I researched it decided not to get it i was going to get a acoustic like slash had . Decided not to bad about head stock break s got a Martin drsi rode series .
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck with the Martin, and thanks for you input.
@ponchlove2393
@ponchlove2393 2 жыл бұрын
Pray for brother Wes Montgomery..!!!!!
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
I will! Of course, he played a well-made Gibson, that's still in use today. Nothing like the product I bought..lol. Thanks for viewing the video and for your comments. Stay safe.
@vitaliistep
@vitaliistep 6 ай бұрын
That's how my myth about the exceptional quality of the US made guitars had been busted 7 years ago after I saw issue after issue on Gibson, Fender, G&L... guitars for $1500-2500. It were the same flaws as on Chinese or Indonesian guitars for $200-500. And then I realized that there is nothing special about them, it's just overpriced brand names, nothing else.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 6 ай бұрын
Hi Vitaliistep, Your right in a lot of cases. The name brands thought they could live on their laurels and customers would buy their guitars just because of the name on the headstock. But along came the imports with great quality and features at a more reasonable price. Gibson and other had to go back and re-think their products. With companies like Eastman, D'angelico, PRS, Cort, Ibanez and others, you no longer have to pay a premium price for crap! Thanks for checking out my video. Peace to you.
@frankoconnor8141
@frankoconnor8141 Жыл бұрын
Never owned a Gibson, never wanted one, they`re vastly overrated & overpriced, have had several copies over the years, some even better than the originals they were designed on, such as Ibanez, Aria, Yamaha, Hamer and my current Hofner Congress, one of the best ones I had for around a year, was the Ibanez GB10, George Benson signature model, its a great sounding hollow archtop, that`s around the same size & shape of a Les Paul, and just perfect for playing Jazz on. With all the great quality budget guitars that are available now, Gibson are beginning to look like the bitter old man sitting on a Park bench today, whining about how good they were in the "Old Days." but that`s what happens when you rest on your laurels, and refuse to embrace change.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese Жыл бұрын
Hi Frank, you are absolutely right. With all the great guitars on the market, there is longer any need to own a bad guitar! Just do a little research and you're bound to find the right one for you. Thanks for checking out the video. Hope you have a great day; today and every day!
@ponchlove2393
@ponchlove2393 2 жыл бұрын
Greg,if you want,only,I can suggest where to buy your next gibson.send me email.!
@ponchlove2393
@ponchlove2393 2 жыл бұрын
Gibson is going to price themselves " right out of business" folks!!!!!!
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
You may be right! Hey, believe me, I don't wish Gibson to fail just because of my experience. They're many great people, luthiers, craftspersons that would be out of a job, and I don't want that. And, Gibson has made many a fine guitar in the past. But they need to build a great product for the prices they charge and they should back it up with quality customer service. Thanks for watching, and for your comments.
@DavesGuitarChannel
@DavesGuitarChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Grant Green..
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 5 жыл бұрын
Grant Green is "Killer." One of the old school's best Blues / Jazz player. Thanks
@daviddawson1718
@daviddawson1718 2 жыл бұрын
Look at the damn guitar before you buy it.
@stevenedwards4470
@stevenedwards4470 2 жыл бұрын
You know, an outfit like Gibson should have been able to slap a new fingerboard on your first guitar in a few weeks. It's not an end of the world repair. I don't think I'd seen a 235 before. Pretty cool guitar...🙄 Conceptually anyway.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was everything I wanted in a Jazz guitar. Small body and some other features I wanted. But man, it turns out to be a real piece of junk. And what made it so bad, was they sent me another piece of junk to replace the first piece of junk. The poor workmanship made both guitars unplayable. Thanks for checking out my video and for your comments.
@ponchlove2393
@ponchlove2393 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of attracting business,they defeat it.they should promote guitars in shopping malls and various places like that.the stores don't even tell customers what's available!!!!!!! It's pathetic.!!
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
You're so correct, and that's a good idea. Guitar and guitar accessories companies should have a NAMM for just the average consumer or make the last day of the NAMM show for everyone. Where you could see all the latest and greatest gear in one spot, that would be cool and would serve the entire guitar communinty. Thanks for checking out my video and for your comments.
@ponchlove2393
@ponchlove2393 2 жыл бұрын
Let me know.
@ponchlove2393
@ponchlove2393 2 жыл бұрын
Aria. Fa-71 is what you need.!!!!
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Thanks for that. I use to go into a music store, just outside of Philadelphia, which carried several Aria guitars. They were nice instruments for the Jazz player and well made. Thanks again for viewing my video and for your comments.
@grantkoeller8911
@grantkoeller8911 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who can afford to buy a Gibson can afford to pay the shipping.
@ponchlove2393
@ponchlove2393 2 жыл бұрын
Get yourself a " aria" fa- 71 jazz guitar. You will thank me over and over..!!!!!!!
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
I played an Aria many years ago. They make a nice guitar. Thanks for checking out my video.
@user-UncleDickey
@user-UncleDickey Ай бұрын
BEND UP ON THE HGH STRINGS PULL DOWN ON THE LOW
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese Ай бұрын
YES
@grantkoeller8911
@grantkoeller8911 2 жыл бұрын
Get a made in China IYV guitar for $189,double cut way , f hole semi hollowbody jazz blues guitar
@duster71
@duster71 2 жыл бұрын
PRS.PRS.PRS.PRS.PRS.PRS.PRS. GIBSON needs to.either pay for pick up and redeliver the guitar repaired and immeditaly repaired the day they receive it and have it sent back out that day,or pay for pickup and have another guitar sent out to you the day the get this guitar.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
I had a couple of PRS guitars. 2 Zach Myers and a Vela. Both were some of the best fit and finish guitars I've ever owned. But they were not the best for getting a jazz sound. Thanks for checking out my video and for your comments.
@bessiebraveheart
@bessiebraveheart 2 жыл бұрын
Hello from England. I bought a new gibson ES 339 guitar. It is the worst guitar that I own. The build quality is a disgrace. I should have returned it, but as a retired engineer I corrected the faults. No more Gibsons for me. They are overpriced and overrated.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Hey John, thanks for the comments and for watching my video. Glad you had the know-how to correct Gibson's faults. So many others don't have your skill and are stuck with a sub-par instrument. Good luck and stay cool over there in England.
@bessiebraveheart
@bessiebraveheart 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gregabalese Thank you for your reply Gregory, it's nice to hear from you. What I'm finding is that there are some great guitars being built in the lower price ranges now. As good if not better than well known top price brands. I don't care where or who builds my guitars, or what's on the headstock, as long as the workmanship is good.
@michaelblaney4461
@michaelblaney4461 2 жыл бұрын
I bet if you were Slash you would get quick replacement! Get a Fender 😊 Mark Agnissi is to busy buying leather jackets at Chess King to watch this Video
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
WOW, i didn't think anyone would remember "Kess King." I bought some things there so many years ago-I can't remember..lol. Thanks so much for cheking out my video. That's soooo funny.
@gregsmall7238
@gregsmall7238 2 жыл бұрын
I talk to my friend kirk hammington of Metallica see if I can get u something I met him at a music store he was in the basement rehearsal
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out the video.
@obsg2650
@obsg2650 2 жыл бұрын
Man..... this is so bad.. i never owned a modern day gibson, always had 90s gibsons & they were awesome.. but from what friends guitars are.... they paid so much for this guitar they don't want to get rid of & it is absolute dog shit in setup & the neck feels like it's not seated properly. can't stay intonated on chords.... shit won't stay in tune. buncha bs. if i buy a brand new guitar, i can't see myself buying "Gibson" product, i mean ya, our favorites used them... but.. the quality dude.. for real, i can see exactly from your perspective... whoever quality controlled it needs to be fired immediately.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
I can say there are way too many makers of great guitars to have to spend your hard-earned money on crap. Do a lot of research and make an informed purchase! Thanks for your comments.
@randal3122
@randal3122 2 жыл бұрын
i loovve my gibson and every gibson i have ever played. i always hear people complaining about their guitars, but i have never touched one that wasnt fantastic. granted, i dont play a bunch of different guitars all the time. there are a few brands i havent played, but nothing else i have played has compared to the gibsons i have played in my opinion
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you!
@manta0324
@manta0324 2 жыл бұрын
I find this hard to belive
@randal3122
@randal3122 2 жыл бұрын
@@manta0324 hard to believe an opinion? ok
@fritzherrmann762
@fritzherrmann762 2 жыл бұрын
Gibson is an ego trap. They authentically screw us over
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
LOL...That made me laugh. great comment; thanks for watching.
@bigmonmagoomba9634
@bigmonmagoomba9634 2 жыл бұрын
Once the boomers die off Gibson & Fender are in big trouble. The boomers were brainwashed into believing that only expensive American-made guitars would work back in the ‘70s & that attitude still prevails in that demographic. However younger generations have figured out that less-expensive Asian-made guitars are very well made & very affordable. Gibson is lucky to have Epi & Fender is lucky to have Squier because those brands will be floating the corporate boat soon enough.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great observation. You are correct about Squier (the biggest seller of guitars in the world) and Epiphone being the financial anchor of these companies. I think Fender may be in slightly better shape than Gibson. I really do hope that neither of these great guitar builders fails. But Gibson will have to do much better for its customers to stay afloat. You're also correct about the import market. It's getting better every day. After selling off the Gibson, I use the money to purchase an Eastman. Still expensive, but boy what a difference in quality! Thanks so much for watching my video and for your comments. Stay safe.
@grantkoeller8911
@grantkoeller8911 2 жыл бұрын
A guitar is just parts, and labor to put it all together. You need to find a great guitar luther.
@ponchlove2393
@ponchlove2393 2 жыл бұрын
Gibson hollows are way way way way over priced....they are pricing themselves right down the toilet.!!!!!! New CEO is questionable.
@Gregabalese
@Gregabalese 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, they want a lot of money for thier Jazz guitars. I find a better (not cheap) deal with Eastman. Thanks for the comments.
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