Why I left the TwoSetViolin fandom

[@platypusmusic8843]

It’s a problem with many fandoms across the internet. People aren’t perfect, people make mistakes, and the influencers on the internet are no exception. Really hope that both TSV and the fans are able to keep on their journey while being open minded. Take a well deserved break! Can’t wait to see you again when you find out what’ll bring you joy. Finally, thanks for all the content, really enjoyed them!

[@evanjones9602]

Yes, it is a problem with lots of fandoms. This appears to be the main problem regarding the blinks at BlackPink and the Paganini roast.

[@dolphinxiah]

As much as I love twoset, I resonate with the points you raised. I do understand that sometimes is hard when fandom grows and there will always be more immature fans. Hoping one day twoset will fully acknowledge their influence and decides to educate the fandom on some do's or don'ts. Since fandom is always the face of the creator. One thing I agree alot that everyone is different so we should be accepting others when they "butt hurt" or voice out differently, not bashing them. Try to see things in different perspectives. And also, thank you for your content. Wishing you all the best!

[@Lumors]

So sad you had this experience. People need to learn not to identify that much with the creators they love. Obsession is unhealthy. They also need to learn that you can be critical of someone yet still love them. If a comment is not expressing 100% fan excitement, it doesn't mean it's hate. I enjoyed your videos, good luck with your future endeavors!

[@daviestardust]

Just wanna say i'm really proud of you for doing this! I had no idea all this stuff was going on within the Twoset sphere, but i'm glad i know now and i'm happy for you that you're brave enough to talk about it!! I can't wait for your new channel, it's going to be amazing

[@ireignsupreme2355]

They’ve created their own cult very scary have they become

[@ericaliu3635]

I think that a true fan is able to take a step back and criticise the actions of the people they are supporting if something wrong had been done. Support *SHOULD NOT* be unconditional, and creators *SHOULD NOT* be idolised as perfect and incapable of doing wrong, as that only further enables them and is ultimately *harmful* to them in the long run. Those who send hate at the slightest hint of constructive criticism and unconditionally worship a public figure are no longer a fan; instead, they’ve crossed the line into blind and unhealthy devotion. Thus, I believe that your ability to identify what TwoSet did wrong and phrase it so respectfully whilst still showing support shows that you are a _true_ fan, and that you want to see them grow, to learn from their mistakes and be the best they can be. so thanks for speaking up! sincerely, a twoset fan.

[@yesyesyes666]

I am casual twoset fan, not a hardcore stan, and I agree that I still love them and everything they have done but maybe address everything that has happened

[@ILikeBirds]

I agree with everything you said. I do still love watching their videos but they do need to realize that giving credit on their videos including other people should be a normal thing. They’ve made so many videos including other people but I never see a link to their video or the channel unless it’s Hilary Hahn, Chloe Chua, or other famous violinists.

[@Rahul-gb6il]

Go have your cereal practice for 40 hours lol

[@Rahul-gb6il]

Btw, yes I agree with your point. I often see myself having to search all over youtube for the full videos of the bits they show.

[@yes1635]

You're right sometimes they even say the links will be in the description but it isn't for some reason. I mean I only saw them do that in one video but several others where they just haven't given credit to the videos or people mentioned

[@ll650]

It’s like plagiarism.

[@tortillabag]

I had no idea about all the controversies. :( I don't why it's so hard to just give someone credit, like, they used his video so he obviously deserves at least a link. It's not that hard. :/ I'm just a sometimes watcher/lurker so I never participated in the fandom. Thank you for this video. You're really well spoken and I appreciate your overall message. I wish you well!

[@oliverdelica2289]

Yeah same

[@procrastipractice]

Thank you for your videos. I've always appreciated your critical mind. Have a good time with your future projects!

[@songfulmusicofsongs]

I think they don't want other people to use their channel to advertise themselves. I'm sure they receive a lot of spam. I know that Davie helped some channels to become more popular, but for 2set, it seems they are hesitant to do the same thing. I think they have the right to not advertise other people if they don't want to (especially if they don't think these channels are good enough for that). Also there were some incidents with another KZbinr, Steve Terreberry, who mentioned some KZbin accounts and fans went and leave negative message there. So it's perhaps they think it's more safe to avoid all this. With all this I'm trying to say that there is no need to be that angry about all this stuff. They manage they stuff the way the do and there is pro and contra for every decision.

[@minnie_5582]

^^^ i agree with the statement above. theres always 2 sides of a story, and i honestly doubt that twoset would have anything to gain from removing the video out of sheer pettiness of not wanting to advertise smaller channels. perhaps some people feel like they *should clarify it for us, once and for all, but they're not obliged to at all, as op stated above perhaps they think that the better course of action is to simply take down the video to avoid other negative messages/spam altogether. but in the end we dont know for sure, as we really dont know what goes on in the twoset team. but us fans ourselves have nothing to gain from being so fixated on a certain viewpoint, as it only make us think negatively towards the content creators that we genuinely like, for something that's not confirmed. its quite similar to the blm movement that was brought up a few months ago in the fandom. i recall many fans sorta "rioting;" against twoset, because they feel the need to pressure twoset to speak up on these current issues. but as i mentioned above it was proven that there are 2 sides of a story, as twoset stated in their asian hate vid, they themselves are asians, so they feel like they are qualified to bring up the topic and share their experiences. perhaps they didnt elaborate on a video for blm because they didnt feel like they were qualified to speak up on it, as they were not involved on either of the "sides" of the movement"? so yea im just saying that theres so many things we dont know about twoset and the team, and us fans really shouldnt make quick assumptions and accuse them of doing something so derogatory, while its evident that they're not those kind of people from all their videos, and they seem to consistently show themselves as kind and compassionate people who just want to spread classical music to everyone :) with that being said though, i hope to see more videos from you in the future, and thank you for the entertaining content u created for this fandom during ur time here :] hope u continue to be well :]

[@JustAnotherLingLingWannabe]

Hi guys, thank you for leaving your perspectives 🙏 but I felt the need to give my point of view as a creator myself. When someone makes the decision to post content publicly, hate isn't unexpected. The exposure from a large creator is far more valuable than any hypothetical hate comments we might get along the way, as shown by how much Wolfie wanted it. If TwoSet were worried about their fans hating on people they could've made a disclaimer saying not to do that, which would also be useful for when they review people. I wasn't as frustrated at TwoSet refusing to give credit as much as I was mad at how they never bothered to talk to Wolfie explaining any reasons they had for not doing so and leaving him blindsided by their decision. As for the BLM incident, while I also agree that TwoSet should not be forced into doing things, the worst part of this was how they again completely ignored their fans asking them to do more (especially after they posted a message of support), which made some fans feel justified in harassing that group of fans who were mostly Black. That's why I said in my video that they should do what's best "for the fandom" - even if they say no to the fan requests, answering at least tells the fan base that issues like those are to be taken seriously. I've always disagreed with the "silence is safety" approach, especially if it has proven time and time again to cause harm. I didn't send this comment to start an argument, only to provide a different point of view. Thank you all for the respect and support ❤️

[@labimartins9809]

I kind of agree with this. Anytihing could be motivating them to not credit Wolfie's channel, but the fact that they decided to stay silent, and even delete that video, makes me think that they didn't credit Wolfie's channel simply because they didn't want to. I think that if they had good reasons, they would probably explain them, as it would also avoid criticism

[@minnie_5582]

​@@JustAnotherLingLingWannabe ah i see,, i still stand by my point as i can see so many people in the fandom not just pressing for replies but also pressing relentlessly for twoset to do the things *they* think twoset should do, and as a casual fan thats not often involved in the fandom itself, i feel like twoset arent obliged to actually give a response to all the messages, because as content creators they probably receive way too many requests + suggestions from various fans, perhaps they dont see their actions as sth needed to be explained? for the blm movement itself, i feel like twoset might have seen themselves as outsiders, like i mentioned in my previous reply, so maybe they just didnt know how to further address the issue as well. they did mention similar stuff from blm in their asian hate video tho, so maybe they saw it as a substitute! i do really appreciate ur pov tho, it let me understand where ur coming from and why ur believe that twoset's silence is more detrimental than helping, so thats a different thing to think about! i do believe that it just matters on which stance we choose to take on the issue, neither are really right or wrong :D 🤍

[@minnie_5582]

@@labimartins9809 i get ur point as well! im just choosing to view the situation from a different stance, as stated from my reply to michelle, i do appreciate you sharing ur pov though, it gives me more to think about and different ways fans might view the situation >_

[@sophiatalksmusic3588]

I left a while ago too, and I agree with all your points. While it's good to see Twoset growing and changing, their content isn't really for me anymore, and the toxic (and often repetitive) nature of the fandom made it lose its appeal to me. While I'm still subbed to Twoset, I usually don't watch their videos anymore. That being said, I've also started making my own classical music meme and video essay vids, so while Twoset isn't for me, I did get my start as a music researcher when I was a fan.

[@ireignsupreme2355]

Ling ling is too much perfectionism he/she demands too much of your time and punishes you throughout your musical journey

[@PinkPixelProductions]

2:23 now THESE are examples of obsessed stans right here. Jumping to twosets defense, throwing any sort of evidence out the window because twoset could never do anything wrong! In all seriousness, I am glad to know this. I will still watch twoset, because I think Brett and Eddy are very entertaining, and honestly it might not be Brett and Eddys fault, maybe someone else on the twosetviolin team that coerced them into deleting the video? Idk that’s just my take on it, but I am not sure. Thanks for the video

[@element4element4]

Maybe I am too old to understand this. But these are just youtube videos, I watch them sometimes and enjoy it. I don't understand the whole "being part of a fandom" or "community" and making a youtube channel part of your identity. It's just youtube videos, a channel among many others you can watch in your free time. Is it really that deep? Again, maybe I am just too old to get it.

[@CopShowGuy]

You are likely more comfortable with yourself. People tend to like to belong to groups. They like to make clans, feel like they're a part of something big, and feel exclusive. You don't need that sense of validation to feel good.

[@diezwiebel6873]

I don’t comment on videos very often, but I just want to say, no matter what the haters say, you are(were) a true ling ling wannabe, and a very brave one at that. I honestly don’t think I could be brave enough to address these issues like that knowing I’d get hate for that stuff. Thank you for what you have done in this community.

[@meklee5981]

Just want to point out also that without the whole picture we won't really know what happened. I'm not saying it happened or defending tsv, but imagine that content creator acted innocent but was actually doing something nasty in the background (e.g. file lawsuit already before asking) I see where your coming from but also think that without story from everyone it's hard to judge what really happened. But I support you on doing what makes you happy, if stopping makes you feel better - I support you on that. If this is your pov - I can totally see your point, despite our differences in pov. I personally don't have anything against twv (I'm a relatively new fan) but I have experienced some harsh stuff with their fans, so I would probably not consider myself part of fandom, I just do what makes me happy! Hope for the next part of your life all goes well and you stay well and happy, cheers!

[@jules6731]

I’ve seen smaller creators being really nice in public and really menacing in private. Ofc we have no idea of what happened but it’s weird how people just assume the worst from them without even knowing what happened.

[@slimesquishiesorbeez7054]

I've always loved your twoset videos (i cant even count how many times i've watched each of them), I love how you always put so much effort into every video, how you're always respectful and careful to explain things, and I love your sense of humour :D However, I'm happy for you and I will support you as long as you're doing what you love and what you're passionate about!

[@liketheTaj]

Admire you so much for everything! Thank you for all the hard work you’ve put into this fandom, as well as all of the insightful conversations we’ve had on social media. It was wonderful to be in the space you created as a fandom account. Best of luck in all your future endeavors.💕💕

[@jules6731]

As a new casual two set watcher I was curious about this video. I don’t mean to offend but to be honest it just feels like you were too deep into them. The standards you’re asking for are so unattainable, especially because you don’t know them personally. The cynicism here is also… not it. Judging them while not knowing the big picture and feeling entitled to know everything that goes on is just not it.

[@mirandapoh9198]

Oh I'm also a new casual two set watcher :) Honestly I do believe that its very hard to be a perfect channel on the internet because they're now dealing with almost 4 million followers and can receive backlash from trying to speak up too much on these things. The media is definitely a hard place to navigate because you honestly don't know the person behind the screen. But IMO there are still a lot of things to learn from this video, because even though maybe not all fans are cynical there are some who do act like that as shown in her video who have been hurting her; the fact that the fandom is causing more hurt than joy to her seems like a good enough reason for her to leave. About the high standards, to me I feel like she didn't just leave because twoset didn't hit her high standards, but rather she felt like the fandom was toxic, she couldn't relate to their videos anymore and it wasn't bringing her that much joy anymore. I feel like she noted the standards more as an ideal she hopes twoset will work towards. I honestly won't judge her and twoset about the plagiarism and content issues because I don't feel like I am the one to talk about these things. I'll just take treating the media with more awareness as a final learning point from this video. Either way I do think it's great that she decided to take a break and I do still like watching twoset videos. Hopefully I don't come off as offending either

[@mirandapoh9198]

I'm not sure if you'll ever go back to this video after 10 months, but I just wanted you to know that I respect you a lot for voicing out your own opinions on this, even when other people have badmouthed you. And even more respect for being willing to change your mindset and step out from what you think was toxic and hurtful. It's a great example of what a proper supporter should be as you don't just ignore or try do defend the channel's unreasonable (?) actions and think logically. You're absolutely right that to be a fan doesn't mean yelling and being rude to fans who might have different opinions on content. I thought the content you gave before we amazing (like how did you get so many clips :0) but I do understand your reasons for leaving the fandom. I'm a casual new fan so honestly I had no idea of any of these controversies. I really liked this video of yours because you really took the time to explain your views, rather than just dissing twoset and telling us why they suck. Its not easy for any influencer as they have to deal with so many fans and opinions, and sometimes it's not them but their fandom itself. So far for me twoset doesn't seem always unreasonably horrible (in my opinion, as a very new fan), but this video has really raised my awareness in considering other perspectives and thinking deeper into what I see on the media everyday. Stay safe, stay strong, you're an amazing creator. Your clarity in analyzing your situation was super mature to me; I hope you're doing well after 10 months :) P.S. your voice sounds way better than the robot voice thing

[@DragonBonder]

I fully agree. Ever since that incident, I unsubscribed and eventually stopped wanting to watch their videos even when they were recommended to me. It deeply disappointed me that they chose to just cover it up, and pretended that it never happened. It was handled so badly. I thought they would respect original content and creator rights from their videos where they compared similarities between classical music and e.g. movie soundtracks. But it's like they had double standards, and these rules don't apply on themselves? They also used La Mer's art cover on their merchandise, which was supposedly "inspired" when it looked identical. Then I went to their website and saw that they were looking for Chinese translator VOLUNTEERS. Really? You're just gonna take fans for granted and ask them to do work for free? This was removed from their website. I'm not sure if they found a volunteer, or they realised that it was not right. Sighhhhhh Internet culture (esp fan / stan culture) has become so toxic. I try not to look at such comments to save myself from some heartache. People need to realise that it doesn't mean that when you stan someone, they are perfect and you have to support everything they do, especially it doesn't sit right with you. Morals aren't things that should bend at your whims and fancies. Btw I'm so glad you aren't quitting KZbin for good. Let us know when you create your new channel! I'll check it out

[@dkdjdw305]

What is this is “incident” that twoset did?

[@DragonBonder]

@@dkdjdw305 the same incident that was mentioned in this video at 0:57 in this video. TwoSet had a video reviewing adult beginners learning a violin piece in 24 hours. The first portion of their video was taken from Wolfie Venturi, but TwoSet did not credit the video creators. Wolfie commented under that video asking them to credit him in the video description box (which they should have done even before Wolfie's request). And instead of crediting Wolfie, they ignored him and cut out his portion of the video. Later on when the fans caught on to what had happened, they deleted the entire video to erase the evidence.

[@erinnichols4866]

There are job offers now. They are not volunteering positions.

[@allyip5777]

And you went to their 2023/2024 World Tour! Fandom member or not, you do appreciate TwoSet at the end of the day.

[@mby3296]

I dont really care about what they do I like their content and I will be a fan of them if they make good contents

[@leaf-in-beefleaf]

I agree, I rarely even read comments so I have no idea about fandom in general; I feel like not reading comments is a good way to enjoy content without feeling weird about it;

[@ericaliu3635]

and thats fine :))

[@shimaass32]

they are careful with their silence , so careful in my opinion, i mean look pewdiepie, he made huge mistakes , still received the support of the world during t series battle , he calls out his fandom never afraid to speak his mind also them not advertising other small channels left a bad taste in my mouth is this related to copyright claim ? money related maybe maybe they want to stay as the only mainstream classical music channel they are kind , very educated people also they are surrounded by some great names , in my opinion, i think the issue with their fandom , content will be resolved sooner or later i hope from the bottom of my heart i don't want to sound cringy but they have worked hard and are very much deserving the success they have , i believe in them even if there is issues that should be solved meanwhile, i am still subscribed, turned off the bell until i see drastic/good changes also i am sorry for any hate you got , you look like the same age as me i am sad about what happened to you my dear friend

[@quinn7894]

It's seems like a lot of people/commenters adopt this philosophy of "You're with us or against us, and nothing in between." It's like you have to be perfect in basically every way, or the worst in every single way. If you slightly disagree with someone on an issue, you disagree with them in *ABSOLUTELY EVERY SINGLE RESPECT* 'cause that makes perfect sense. What happened to critical thinking? What happened to coming to your own conclusions? What happened to not getting offended by a tiny bit of constructive feedback? That's my take on it.

[@anastasiia8464]

Off topic but i like your voice, it's so soothing

[@ireignsupreme2355]

Same it’s powerful and delivers

[@chinyabuki8830]

I'd been a twosetter for a year before leaving 8 months ago. I had no idea about all things recently, although I still follow some twosetters because why not :v I left fandom because their contents aren't funny and educational anymore their vids before they hit 2.5M, and somehow I feel twoset's fandom is becoming more and more toxic. Also, those "couple fans" really make me uncomfortable. That's just my personal thought, no offense.

[@svungflower]

I’ve been apart of the twoset community since 200k subscribers, i left the fandom in early 2021 that’s 3 years, don’t get me wrong I have the upmost respect to eddy and Brett. But it just seems that they are just pushing out videos to make money now, they look like they aren’t having fun anymore, also the situation with the video with the small creator I find it sick. And I do hope they do situate the content out and make it because they want not because they need. I completely agree with you

[@oppositeoflingling1674]

I get what u mean but eddy said in a video not so long ago that he doesnt do youtube for money.

[@justina2612]

@@oppositeoflingling1674 what else do you think they do youtube for ? Its a job. Job gives you money, nothing wrong in it but this is one of their source of income lol

[@ILikeBirds]

@@justina2612 yeah, and remember that they have to split the income between the two of them

[@exiledkenkaneki701]

some ones makes KZbin vids for slight money 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡jeeez there is being critical of two people trying to earn a living nut then there's overwhelming exaggerating dik riding that's seen in this video

[@user-qu6xp3jq4c]

People in general are toxic and that includes twoset fans. One thing I have noticed is that they have that view that jazz music and pop music is less worthy of classical music. They also mocked brass instruments in their video about playing 10 levels of brass. Honestly, that smacked of an air of superiority.

[@vivaciousmyosotis]

I think they were attempts at jokes, but they should definitely add disclaimers or acknowledgement to make that more clear

[@ireignsupreme2355]

They can stick their violins up the hill. I let suggestions pick that word

[@iexistornot5747]

Nobody is perfect 😱 shocking isnt it

[@AmorAGemma]

These viola and electric violin roast from twoset spread to the point the fans are start making fun of someone just because they're playing viola or electric violin (and it's really annoying) , twoset really need to specified more to not hate or making fun of someone just because they play these instruments. They think wooden violin is so superior

[@niccolopaganini1782]

To me wooden instruments do seem superior, but spreading hate is something I don't condone.

[@lightspaladin231]

Has anyone, maybe, thought for a moment, that Twoset themselves were a bunch of kids who absorbed the viola-bashing traditions from their own peers/elders back in the orchestra days? Just like young Twosetters now take cue from their seniors (Brett and Eddy). It seemed odd the adult musicians who were supposed to guide B&E in their youths are absolved of blame entirely.

[@ILikeBirds]

I’m my opinion the wooden instruments do sound better but they should teach their audience to be less toxic and appreciate more different kinds of music

[@ireignsupreme2355]

So I read in their Wikipedia section that they started off making violin pop covers and ever since I’ve always watched them acting all disgusted with violin pop covers. the Brett kid makes disgusted faces when the other kid starts playing some Lindsay Stirling tunes

[@talalwolf1391]

thank you so much for making this video you are honestly one of my role models

[@cryptominingsauce4043]

TwoSet are young blokes. they'll get a good dose of the real world sooner or later like all of us...

[@linhdan_]

thank you for your videos. see you soon!

[@medeacassandralogos]

You're so politician material, i mean it as a compliment, like be the president of wherever you live, there's so much power coming from you

[@suanzy]

When you are back with your own channel, please notify in this channel (description, if it can't be a video). I found values in your opinion and I believe your works will still speak. All the best! 🍀

[@romela865]

Best of Luck! I hope to see you, soon!!

[@okqynerd6672]

I cant believe in just 274 views it already has 1 dislike, im honestly disappointed

[@Plutoisthe9thplanet]

I am old I don’t even notice they would have a fandom😅i just found some of their videos quite funny and honestly being a music major student in the past myself, being musician professionally means we want to focus on the art but not the management ourselves( cos practice does take a great toll out of us most time ) not trying to talk it out for them but I do understand them not doing a good job on the management ( or pay little attention to it ) being a good musician with very little amount of talent ( for real ) isn’t easy( let’s face it most of us aren’t prodigy or even gifted level musicians) They like most of us out here, are pretty average players. That’s all

[@PbPomper]

I honestly don't really care. I just think TwoSet content has become incredibly repetitive and feel like cash grabs. Videos which are stretched over the 10 minute mark. They lost the soul a long time ago I think. They became their own memes.

[@ilovemerylstreep73]

Thiss... try and say something political in the reddit that might slightly suggest criticism. Lol. Learned my lesson many a time and probably will again.

[@wuguay5526]

Hope find your own peace. I will continue to watch twoset.

[@ninjaaron]

I cannot imagine caring about Twoset to the point that anything they or their fans said could elicit an emotional response.

[@DareToWonder]

A friend of mine is a youtuber, twoset acted pretty standard

[@pawfruit4095]

i hope your having a good day i hope mean words that you received didnt affect you

[@caripriest9061]

ahhhhh this was so good and developed so well!!!! it’s fun to look back at all the craziness that was happening around then💀hope u take care!- cari(steezyvsp/aep)

[@HappyG1lm0re]

Wow. Videos like this are what happens when you have an obsessive personality and get way too involved in the BS instead of just enjoying funny videos.

[@pierQRzt180]

FYI if some videos are "too controversial" but it doesn't feel good to remove them, one can put them in a playlist but keep them unlisted in general.

[@gparet52]

See you soon!

[@riadirige7804]

I wish you the best

[@MinnieMouse-px1pe]

I don't know whether to leave or to stay. I believe that their content feels kinda forced and repetitive; it feels like it's lost its soul. There are many 'good' things abt 2set like the serious playing and serious discussions, but should i stay just for those or leave because of the present? Ps this is just my opinion, please dont attack me. Also i really appreciate your honest and constructive criticism. Great work!

[@austen98]

I am going to quote Elon Musk when he said that Tesla, currently at least, all patents with regard to Tesla tech is now open source. In general, patents are there to protect something which, in this case, is Tesla's intellectual property. These instruments, under their possession, they could do with it what they choose. Some people might not like that idea but Elon has decided and has put it through the Board of Directors and obviously they gave it the go ahead. Now, the reason I mention this is that some would say that its corporate suicide to post your IP out there in the wild for anyone to use but as Elon states its about creating competition to accelerate innovation. How does that make you feel? Do you think he is arrogant for doing so and hate him for that? Statistically, there will be a 50/50 chance that a negative answer will result. However, consider the fact that the decision wasn't yours to make in the first place and, for a lack of a better statement, none of your business. So, with that in mind, let's go back to the Two Set situation. My opinion is that Twoset's performance on YT lately, since about COVID times, has started to show some decline. It is to be expect considering what has happened to their lives in the last few years, not to mention going on a world tour recently and having to plan for it is a logistical nightmare, even with support in the background. However, that doesn't answer the question that was inferred by the OP. To that I say, you do you. Just like I wouldn't stop anyone from still being part of their fandom, just because I didn't like something that twoset did. Furthermore, get with the program girl, this is the real world. Does it change anything in the world right now just because you feel the way you feel? Or, for instance, what if you were still their fan and they decided to leave like they are now? What would you do? What would you say? In the final analysis, no matter what the answers are, they would be irrelevant because it isn't really that important to the grand scheme of things.

[@niccolopaganini1782]

I agree.

[@samanthakirby436]

The problem for Twoset is their content has drawn trolls into their fanbase, they are known for doing roasts, disrespecting other types of music, other types of instruments etc etc. These trolls go out and pour hate into the internet and tryhards try to critique other musicians and generally just go around commentating hate

[@niccolopaganini1782]

I strongly agree. Most fan bases have such people though.

[@ireignsupreme2355]

They could fix that by making it clear to stop the bullying within their fans but they seem to indulge in that toxicity

[@avocado5104]

Oh damn... a swiftie :>

[@baotrano7732]

See you soon! Stay safe, take care❤

[@dingdingkuo8283]

feel the same

[@oliverdelica2289]

😔😔😔✊✊✊

[@lilacdavid626]

Nobody’s perfect 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@ILikeBirds]

True but it really isn’t that hard to put a link to someone’s content in the description even if they aren’t Chloe Chua, Hilary Hahn, or Ray Chen 🤷‍♀️ just saying

[@lilacdavid626]

@@ILikeBirds true

[@ireignsupreme2355]

They’ don’t expect their “bullied” to watch the roasts so that’s why they omit the direct links to their channels

[@lilacdavid626]

@@ireignsupreme2355 still true

[@qalaphyll]

goodbye!

[@JiyuuNK]

Elitist. That's what I feel, just my opinion but I don't like those kinds.

[@Violin-Villain]

😅

[@zedgar3442]

So long , goodbye , I'll see you when I see you.

[@SandyL0uise]

TooWoke.

[@roosh2927]

I know this is from a while ago, but I wish you hadn’t let these 12 year olds and incels get to you. It’s also not worth the time and effort; I’m honestly not certain why TwoSet is as famous as they are, seeing as how they’re immature, vanilla, and, quite frankly, not as nearly as good as they and their fans project.

[@exiledkenkaneki701]

I'm sorry but the reason why two set is famous is because they're are good, motivational for many people, bring classical music to a wider audience and do an excellent job at it. so you not understanding it is convenient because you are officially dik riding this pseudointellectual video, the stans of every community are obviously bad, two set 99%.of times are aways fun, they did one thing bad and it makes them this evil that this idiot claims them to be regardless if she doesn't want them to be canceled. she's was repeating herself all the time while there are videos literally in which two set say don't harass people, so idk what you waffling about, they are classical musicians, good at it, entertaining, joke about classical music which is their literal fanbase lol, give constructive criticism about music videos, experience fraud etc.

[@zenwolf5169]

We NEED twoset in order to connect the elite classical world and us general audiences. Sure, there are professionals (virtuosos, soloists) and twoset are not as skilled as them, but they are like a gateway, allowing general audiences with NO or little knowledge of classical music to learn about classical music and musicians. I'm fine with what they are now, because someone has to eventually stay in the middle. Lemme give you an example: kurzgesagt, an excellent, high originality, creative science channel that makes learning fun, but actually they are just touching the basics of everything and present it in an aesthetically, light hearted way. They are not too into details because imagine how much time and budget will they need to explain everything. Once something is too complicated and people have a hard time understanding , one might even lose interest, no matter classical music or science. Twoset is successful because they have encouraged the younger generation into liking classical music. Their content is light-hearted and simple to understand. Sure, there are toxic stans in the fandom as well, but those people had nothing better to do (probably not practicing!) I value my practice time more now so I have already gone through that phase. Sure, people can search for their fanart, the fanfics, the memes, become shippers etc. but I believe that the true "mature" people should always remind themselves to understand 2set's significance and role, not just entertain themselves with the above mentioned activities to find a group to get attached to, feel like "they've found their gang" and narrow down their minds. There are alot of other things to enjoy and do. I am subscribed to 2set for a couple years now, I missed every single livestream, 2mil, 3 mil, 4 mil, I have not been watching their content for 2 years straight until after I graduated from high school and started picking up their content and rediscovered the magic. Yet I dont feel guilty about it.

[@apollog7764]

LMAO

[@khaktuih1]

Karen

[@raymondrak961]

Your comment is not constructive and typical of a hater. Do you even know what the term "Karen" means?

[@khaktuih1]

@@raymondrak961 karen means cool in indonesia

[@raymondrak961]

Keren means cool in Indonesia. A little surprised you used a word related to Indonesia when all other comments are in English. The word Karen in the USA means a woman or man creating a scene in public because they perceive themselves being treated unfairly.

[@khaktuih1]

@@raymondrak961 oh my bad then

[@niccolopaganini1782]

@@khaktuih1 it seems it doesn't mean that.