Why I'll Never Go on Discord Again

[@thomasmalone7454]

This was honestly interesting to hear the part about your brother being worshipped all because he was a mod, like simping for a content creator is one thing but simping for a creator's sibling? That's too weird and creepy. Can't wait to see what the next video will be on

[@shgurr2]

For real! It was scary

[@thomasmalone7454]

@@shgurr2 best wishes to you and your bro by the way 🙏

[@soysauceuwu8489]

I wish I was there to see it but I only knew about discord few months ago

[@second_wolf316]

Like a cult server for a creator is creepy in and of itself but siblings are a whole new kinda creepy

[@thomasmalone7454]

@@second_wolf316 exactly

[@Raph___A]

I'm surprised one of the reasons wasn't that there was some creepy dude stalking you, that sadly happens alot. But yeah, don't do anything that makes you or anyone else uncomfortable. Just do you and stay cool.

[@shgurr2]

People like that stalk me in real life not online 😳 I'm going to talk about it soon

[@Raph___A]

Oh... oh damn... 0_0

[@CaLypSO4456]

@@shgurr2 jeez…I’m sorry to hear that…

[@CreeperBone5000]

Dang that's gotta be really rough.

[@D3bs_0]

@@shgurr2 I know a solution just light them up or no it is too violent wait I know take their photos and go to a police station and report them for stalking you

[@Spectra14147]

As a person who uses Discord literally everyday ((To either talk with friends or for voice work)) I felt this. It's why I'm usually never active in public server's/prefer not to join or be active in them. Just so much drama that can happen over the most stupidest things, and it happens every week. I migrated to Discord from the app Amino since that's where a majority of my friends were before everything fell to shit over there. If ever you do feel like going back to discord, I'd suggest doing it privately and only letting close friends know. TL;DR I felt this video and wish you the best

[@DewNotDisturb]

honestly i thought it was kinda the fun part of discord

[@Jonasaurus7]

Personally I met most of my online friends on a public discord and when that discord started amping up with the drama we just made another server and invited all the best members from the other one

[@crowcove]

but is amino any better? theres tons of toxicity and its rlly addicting

[@glassofwater281]

I like using Discord because I only use it to talk to friends and keep up with game communities

[@crowcove]

@@Airy101 bro its still toxic💀

[@lunathegamer]

My experience with Discord Servers Servers that allowed anyone of all ages: Constantly toxic, constant fighting for stupid reasons, walking on eggshells otherwise you will be dogpiled Servers that allow only adults: The occasional unwanted DM and minor drama here and there, major drama happens once in a blue moon From my experience, servers that only allow adults pretty much are much more chill and doesn’t feel like a constant war zone

[@lunathegamer]

@NonExistingMortal The worst I’ve seen for 18+ served is someone violating consent, the worst I’ve seen for servers of all ages is someone being harassed by multiple people and servers for having the audacity to make their oc look a certain way, the second one happened to a friend of mine, she was harassed for having a character wear a flower in his head because the people in the server thought it was ‘cultural appropriation’

[@littlemac5942]

what about servers that only allow kids?

[@lunathegamer]

@@littlemac5942 I’m an adult, what reason would I have to join a server that only allows kids, besides like I mentioned, from my experience, servers with mostly kids are just a toxic sludge

[@AliciaInNevada]

When I joined a server that has an 18+ role, I got dm’d from some creep asking me if I could send him explicit pics of myself.

[@lunathegamer]

@@AliciaInNevada Yeah that unfortunately happens, I’ve had that happen to me a lot of times, fortunately, lots of servers I’be joined were nice enough to ban all those creeps

[@imzary]

"people made a discord server worshipping my brother cause he was a discord moderator or something" *_Yeah.... That's something people on discord do sometimes for some reason_*

[@shgurr2]

It's common ?!!!

[@imzary]

@@shgurr2 it is more like a meme thing, but there is surprisingly people who do such things. 99% of the time it's just wholesome (people friend with the mods and just joking around) but sometimes... _it gets out of hand let's just say that_ *And out of hand it is*

[@CreeperBone5000]

Yeah, i was in a server kinda like that where they "worshipped" a guy. That is until we all found out he was a huge creep and he got banned from his own server. I won't go into specifics but he was a creep

[@LuvAzaleaSpark]

​@@shgurr2 yup it's common for peeps to worship mods. Talking from experience as a smol channel.

[@elimcgamerguy]

from my about 4 years on discord now i've learned quite a few things; discord can be a very strange place with very strange people choose your friends wisely muting general is always an option you can never focus on conversations in all the servers you're in at once respect bot creators, making complex bots is really hard always be wary of DMs out of the blue don't accept friend requests from people you haven't interacted with at all muting #memes is usually highly recommended never trust 'free nitro' discord has image compression *there is no place for children on discord* for instance, i once joined a server for a web comic i was interested in (not homestuck, don't worry) and immediately after i introduce myself i was supposedly welcomed to a 'hivemind named steve'. i promptly muted all channels except the few announcement channels and didn't talk there again.

[@gabrielultimate487]

I understand why there had to be so many people in discord sharing problems that you wouldn't see in history, by the looks of it you're alright by sharing this video because that's what makes a whole lot special to everyone shgurr ma'am

[@folipsky_2389]

What a simp Chill

[@D3bs_0]

Bro I think your comment is hunted or cursed it says that there is a reply but when I open your reply section I see no comment

[@imnotmeimabisexualpanda.1122]

@@D3bs_0 that’s a KZbin glitch. It’s been happening a lot more lately. I’m not exactly sure how long it’s been here, but I noticed it a month or 2 ago

[@D3bs_0]

@@imnotmeimabisexualpanda.1122 I noticed it for like a month but I wanted to joke about it but wow I didn't know it is a glitch I thought it was my phone

[@hllyenaylleth9576]

@@D3bs_0 just deleted comments through Ai moderation

[@NolanTheInternetUser]

Shuggr is a real person with feelings to you know, I cringe so hard at the people on her old server doing stuff like “buying her friendship”, “trying to breakup her relationships” or whatever. And knowing she was going through stuff as it happened is worse, I hope she never has to deal with that again.

[@Spenstaple]

KZbinrs and creators are people too lol. They’re entertainers. There’s a boundary between creator and fan. People need to be mature about that fact. Keep up the good work Shgurr. And yeah, don’t be pressured to make a discord by people who want you to.

[@quizyjest1616]

The story of Shgurr's brother and his little fan group really shows that some fans of storytime animators as well as just content creators, often forget these are real people and not fictional characters. Yes, many have a little persona they use but that still is used to represent a real person. As such they should be respected.

[@DerangedDireLife]

I like how you animated yourself stabbing the life out of tablet with your pen 🥲 Thanks for sharing your story btw! Discord has more cons then pros sadly 🤧

[@D3bs_0]

Wait discord has pros?!!

[@DerangedDireLife]

@@D3bs_0 😂 Sadly true, discord was always bad 🥲

[@D3bs_0]

@@DerangedDireLife like when I started having discord I instantly regret it and deleted also because it was just a waste of time battery storge

[@RGC_animation]

Objectively no, Discord has more pros than cons. Discord is a place about community, the community does not determine the platform, and even so there are many more nice people than bad people. I'm sorry for you if you had to deal with shitty people, but you can't help it.

[@rosez64aj]

I only want discord to join maps lmao

[@lunch_trey]

Shgurr: I'm sure those people matured and moved on. Me: Oh, you sweet summer child. If that's how they acted then, that's how they act now. In fact, they might actually be worse now than before.

[@shgurr2]

I'll pretend I didn't read this 🤣

[@VegasMax3]

Occasionally some people do mature, especially if their immature period is when they’re young, but yah unfortunately a lot of people don’t change.

[@sunnymash1106]

@@shgurr2 lol

[@JewelWildmoon]

I love how I came across this right as she said the quote 🤣

[@joshuayonemura2572]

@@VegasMax3 I'd be careful in saying those people don't usually change. People are always going to be in different developmental stages, and some stay in certain ones longer than others. Personally I'd argue that mindset along with the complete opposite which is 'we just have to deal with them because they need help' isn't helpful. As a person who struggles with habits that most people would find toxic or immature, I've seen many times where people treat others as ones who won't ever change or will give the person not enough motive to change by just letting things happen. Many people wanting to change find it hard to because of the lack of people to support them one way or another whether by ending friendships with them in a friendly, healthy manner or giving them advice while setting up necessary boundaries.

[@AllEnigmas]

nearly 80% of all the drama in my entire life has been on Discord. Someone gaslighting, several people having a crush on me, and even one of my friends nearly dying, i cant really go without drama when im on Discord.

[@shgurr2]

Trust me... get off

[@npc4416]

yeah like every few month or two, one of my friend tries to off themself

[@AllEnigmas]

@@npc4416 its even worse when you think its your fault bc you did something wrong

[@volcanicashes1996]

@@npc4416 sounds like they're not really trying to if it happens so often

[@npc4416]

@@volcanicashes1996 I DONT WANT THEM TO

[@dissect123]

"Twitter is a fine place" Didn’t expect that one. In my experience you can take all the degeneracy you described, multiply it by cancer and what you get is Twitter.

[@SlyHikari03]

True

[@JewelWildmoon]

Fr that kinda surprised me too 🤣 I use Discord pretty often but most times when I hop onto Twitter, I need to take another 3-week break from it.

[@EyeDonutz]

some people are fine with twitter because they dont use it very often. i stopped using twitter everyday and i pretty much just use it for posting the relevant content and checking notifs, and thats really it, and i feel a lot better since. of course a lot of laypeople i think are inclined to use twitter pretty often, and with how the site is designed for outrage, it inclines a lot of stupid behaviour too, and thus has bred twitter into a notorious battleground of toxicity. its not a good place for discussions or news (yet it tries to be for both of these things). basically, just use it as a brand platform for the most part and you dont really have to give a shit what happens as long as youre not saying stupid things or whatever.

[@Yuunarii]

That's totally fair. Discord can indeed be pretty overwhelming. I've got a server for my channel too. Back in 2017/2018ish it was super active, like whenever I even just dared typing anything, chat would explode. Having moderators definitely helps keep things in check, but its a lot of administrative work that can get pretty tiresome. Making sure the people you get to moderate aren't power hungry assholes and all that. Plus if you want to structure the server in a specific way that can also be a fair learning curve. It helps that nowadays you can choose what things you like to be notified for. You can even turn off @everyone notifications if they bother you. But I totally get that getting DM'd by random people all the time and feeling that pressure of needing to respond can get super overwhelming. At the very least I'm glad to hear you didn't get weirdos worshipping you or writing you insanely detailed confessions. Para social relationships be one hell of a drug. But yeh, I really don't blame you for no longer wanting to engage with Discord after all the stuff you went through.

[@R0ZEN7]

My main problems with discord is the mentality it gives people as well as the actual platform itself being nothing but bloat that very much records everything you type. In terms of mentality I mean how it makes a person almost a slave of their own emotions and to act out completely on impulse due to those said emotions, basically losing the ability to think ahead and act in extremely selfish manners and destructive actions. It is something that once you get away from it you start to realize how much it has effected you and it is a hard mentality to get rid of. The platform itself is a complete mess in all meanings of a complete mess. Between the program itself just being a super bloated chromium browser to the UI being an absolute mess. On top of that privacy is completely nonexistent considering how your own private message chats are logged and can possibly get you banned if you do something or say something not allowed despite it being in a private chat, plus there is the fact you need a PHONE NUMBER to even make an account which should tell someone everything they need to know in terms of privacy with a platform. I think in general it would be best for people to distance themselves from that platform and use alternatives. There was a time before people used discord and the internet was just fine then so I don't see the problem with not using discord now. The main argument I always get seen thrown around is that "all my friends are there" to which I say that is what Discord wants you to think to get you to not only stay but get you to invite others to the platform. Sorry for the long rant but I like your videos and just kind of felt like expressing my disdain for this platform.

[@bodycornflower]

Yuu in the wild

[@DrKoneko]

I've never donated money to people because I feel like I would make them feel like they'd have to interact with me, and if they did, I feel like I'd be ruining their time, and it's just so overwhelming, why was my brain made this way? O_o

[@larrymcconnell9238]

lol I'm reminded of Chidi from The Good Place.

[@charliemartin-k7m]

Wait you can donate to people on that to ?

[@bonepointriverstone]

This is why i like having a private discord server, where only my friends, some family members, and occasional friends of friends are there and we basically chill, with the occasional funny chaos where its non stop silly. Pretty much just a vibe. Im sorry you had the really bad experiences with discord.

[@joshuayonemura2572]

Sadly, private discord servers aren't immune to toxicity. If drama and miscommunication happen within the small group, friends can turn on each other and kicks and bans can happen without actual/proper reconciliation. Also sometimes, there are red flags when the owner says that they are very careful of who they invite and allow others to trash talk people not on the server because it is a "safe place/haven." Small can mean less problems, but that also means that the problems that do arise are likely to be more serious. If it is working for you, that's great. It's fantastic to see at least one part of discord not in literal discord.

[@bonepointriverstone]

@@joshuayonemura2572 i have dealt with my own fair share of toxicity and if it starts in any server i run, which is 2 of them, I've dealt with it immediately by settling miscommunication as soon as i can, or outright removing people who refuse to listen as i have little to no patience with particular toxic behavior patterns. I have a co-leader on my main server who has stepped in when i couldn't and things have surprisingly run smoothly for the most part.

[@joshuayonemura2572]

@@bonepointriverstone Oh yeah, read this a while ago, but I have been busy. So good for you. I'm glad that it's been mostly smooth sailing. I personally am skeptical towards the idea of toxicity since it can be easily be used as an excuse to not work things out, and often it's the situations and relationships that expose toxic traits in people on both sides rather a single person being toxic all by themselves. So have a good rest of your life, and hope that things continue to run smoothly for you if they still are.

[@bonepointriverstone]

@@joshuayonemura2572 you too :) i hope you have a good day/night wherever you are

[@Amir_404]

It only takes a few drops of poison to ruin a well.

[@Drabaz88]

Having a discord sounds exhausting. I'm glad you took a stand and decided never again. Sounds like an un-needed stress.

[@uranus862]

You are too kind of a person, you don’t have to take everything on yourself.

[@justjorge4121]

Thanks for sharing this video with us Shgurr. Tbh, I don’t really use Discord that much, unless I’m messaging my actual friends to talk to them. Like you mentioned in the video, I just don’t really like it when a Discord server is too big, because then you might get overwhelmed by the constant things talked about in different servers or channels, so I understand why you don’t have a Discord server anymore. Btw, I like how footage of you sketching was placed over the commentary, I think it’s a nice touch. Are your future commentary videos also going to show you sketching? Anyways, I hope you are doing well:)

[@shgurr2]

Unless the video is about something media related I'll add some sketching to it to make it more interesting. I'm going to change the cursor movement to just a gif of her drawing and add some eye blinks ^^

[@justjorge4121]

@@shgurr2 Nice, this all sounds good to me!:D

[@Supernimo735]

There's literal gore and nsfw on disc

[@EmptyBowls]

More power to you for avoiding that nonsense. Those kind of people, are the ones that often ruin the true potential of social media that seeks to encourage civil discussion and debate. Instead, they would rather use it to harass and annoy others in the most immature and pettiest ways possible. It's good to see that you're focusing on the efforts that are making you happiest, instead of making you stressed out.

[@Unl1sted.]

Imagine having such a huge lapse in judgement and awareness of other peoples’ boundaries that someone could gather other creeps to make a server that praises a youtuber’s sibling, even if said sibling was a discord moderator. I understand the internet weird, but that’s just vastly horrible that I’ve never heard about. Hope you and your brother keep being safe and don’t end up that way again!

[@kilebox]

Amazing drawings! I know they aren't the main focus of the video, but it makes them even better!

[@Teker_Eonix]

Fodder

[@Maya-jn2rp]

I love how animated shgurr's hand matches what you draw

[@microwaved_cheese6292]

Exactly! That's what i was thinking

[@Albert-yu1cg]

It's probably based on the input from the tablet, and placed behind the tablet image

[@ΣουρμεληςΠάντελης]

It's funny how it's called "social" media, when toxic people cause situations like this, where you get discouraged to interact with them. Couldn't be more ironic.

[@RGC_animation]

Yeah but the majority of the time you're gonna be socially interacting with people... social media causing mental disorders is a very big issue, but it's still social... like wdym?

[@stikzOSC]

Yeah it isn’t really ironic at all because if you weren’t being social you wouldn’t get cyber bullied in the first place lol

[@malgramixrivera0927]

It's alright and understandable about why you don't have one and the part about people worshiping your brother got me like that is ridiculous.

[@shgurr2]

It was so creepy 😣

[@malgramixrivera0927]

@@shgurr2 some people are very strange and some fans just go too far of being a fan of someone. It is expected sadly for popular people like actors/voice actors, billionaires, models and KZbinrs to have a part of the fandom to be like that or worse where some of the fans will only be inspired by the person but others would worshipped them,try being there friend, become something they are not or try to track their location and it is very unhealthy for them to do and dangerous and I feel bad for them and usually it also effects others in their life which usually ends up badly and I hope they can realize it before and get help for their mental and physical health.

[@D3bs_0]

Ridiculous is an understatement it is horrible horrendous and a stupid thing

[@WololoWololo2]

@@shgurr2fr

[@derpcade]

The main reason I keep using discord is because it's the only way I can contact my friends overseas, but if I would drop it in a heartbeat if something better came along. A year ago today, some weird drama between two members in a server I had joined got outta hand, people started doxing those involved, and one of my friends got bullied to the point of attempting suicide. She survived, thank God, but it still left a mark.

[@FiddleSkittle]

Your reason for not having discord is very understanding!, the mentality idea people have to think you own them a friendship just cause they msg ya on DM's and you give them that attention seems really weird and surreal. I feel sorry for content creators that have to put up with this sort of stuff to strangers, it reminds us how the internet can have some good folks...but also the bad ones as well. I don't know how hard it is for people to grasp the reality that friendships happen "Naturally" rather then forced or think it's deserved.

[@Umbrox-57]

Got recommended this video. The constant arguing and shit stirring that I saw was frustrating. I only had discord for over a week and it was a hot mess. Even after I deleted it, I saw horror stories that emerged from it and was more fuel for me to go ‘Nope. Never getting into Discord.’

[@SuperSpyArmyGuy]

"i am back on twitter" oh poor 2022 Shgurr2, what a wild ride you're about to go on

[@christinewhoyt]

xD Bluesky is literraly a better twitter at this time. :)

[@DseanSupreme]

As a content creator myself I appreciate that you're vocal about the stress of managing a community and people wanting to be in your friend group. It's so stressful for people to WANT to be a part of your life actively when, as an artist, as someone with a time consuming hobby, you don't have a lot of it to go around. I appreciate all the people but I really can't keep making stuff if i spend all my time responding to EVERY single person. Please understand. Then throw in manipulative tactics like appealing to morality and association to judge you as a person so you're COMPELLED to respond to them when they're REALLY just doing that for the sense of power they feel over you. Ugh. Again thank you for saying all of this so I don't feel alone in these feelings.

[@justindark98]

I totally understand you when it comes to the whole Discord mess. I try to stay off of there as much as possible now, as a lot of drama that I, unfortunately, somehow got forced in the middle of mostly resonates on there. Got a bunch of weirdos and crazies saying so and so, others backstabbing this person, etc. That's why I usually keep it shut unless I'm in a certain mood.

[@MKVarana]

Your story kind of reminds me of my friend's situation. She's the leader of our team in a Japanese MMO. The game used to be IP restricted, and so our community was small for a while, but it grew in popularity when the IP restriction went down. I didn't witness most of this, so it's all second hand info, but the gist of what I've heard was new people came in and made a Discord since we didn't have an official one and they decided they wanted to make an "overflow team" associated with said Discord account, then made up complaints about people being pedos to get her to ban people and caused a lot of rifts with it eventually being revealed that they were purposefully creating issues to get people to abandon our group for theirs. She didn't quit Discord, but the stress from the complaints and the toxic environment/situation still bother her to this day.

[@JewelWildmoon]

What's the game's name? Sounds interesting. Oh god I have no respect for people who try to ruin someone's reputation with false pedo claims...

[@MKVarana]

@@JewelWildmoon Dragon Quest X.

[@Thewannabewannabe]

I'm gonna be honest I'm watchin' this like 2 years later but you are so real for all of these, I started a community awhile back (not the one for this channel, different separate thing lol), but it went own terribly for ALL OF THESE REASONS I actually despise some people sometimes 💔

[@lola-ge6bq]

First of all the arts you drew is beautiful 💖 Second: oof I am sorry you had to go through this in discord I also been through a lot if it wasn't for my close friends being there for me I would have quite discord I hope you're feeling better now and everything that you go through will get better soon too and have a wonderful and peaceful days and years with your family and friends 🤗💖

[@hailo__art]

I had a lot of issues like that and also quit... :( the jealousy from others, the guilt I felt.. I was overwhelmed and tired. I felt so bad all the time. I'm so glad you're doing better. 💜

[@nachocolonel]

I’d just like to point out the fact that you 100% did the moistcritikal outro of “that’s about it, see ya” and I’m here for it

[@danadnauseam]

I'm glad to see you took Rebecca's advice not to get entangled in social media if you need to detach.

[@arcionek]

God I relate to this so much, I had lead an Amino that got heavily popular and handling a large public community is extremely overwhelming and mentally draining.

[@doonomac7514]

I was in some amino communities once, and even just being in it, not managing it, it was stressful to try and keep up with everyone, and deal with all the drama of people and their problems. I love to help people but groups like that are so damn stressful. If being a part of one is as stressful as it was, I can't imagine managing one. Not to mention, these are people i felt really alike with, but it was still just too much stress

[@arcionek]

@@doonomac7514 yeah it was a mess, try doing school stuff, while managing a chaos of ~300 daily users, mostly teenagers and kids. Be the childish arguments, extreme situations where user puts themselves in danger, or a petty troll who is raiding the chats with nsfw content for 6 hours straight after they got banned. Many of staff members also either silently quit, used the admin powers abusively, or were too afraid to do any actions. Honestly I have huge respect for staff teams who can pull off dealing with large communities, but Amino was the worst platform for that.

[@doonomac7514]

@@arcionek omg, absolute respect for community adin and moderators, dealing with the bs of communities is just so impressive (except the power abusers obviously). I'm not sure if you said you were still in it, but well done for all your admin work and good luck if you're still going. Also, it is kind of a shame for amino because it is a really good platform (in concept) with how you can find communities of people like yourself so easily and how the layout of each community is so user friendly, but it's just not secure enough to keep it's users and communities safe from trolls and the like. And it's a good place to meet actually really cool people, but with so many children on there, it can be exausting. It would be such a great platform if the user issues coulf be managed better. It just leaves the admin teams in communities in way too much power but also vulnerability in how difficult it is.

[@doonomac7514]

@@arcionek well I say all that but I'm thinking of re-downloading it just to see if any of my old mates have ever been back online 😭

[@addiebuss9060]

It sucks that you had to deal with this, I haven't seen much of your content, but I'm sure you're a very sweet person who deserves better. Good thing you decided to make the decision to avoid situations like that

[@ORROProductionss]

shgurr2: **talks about discord** Me: **stares at the satisfying timelapse of the drawing thing in the background**

[@Guy_W]

I'm glad to hear you've found what's healthy for you. Personal boundaries are a wonderful thing and need to be respected. As for friends, I feel similar. I keep 2 categories. Friends that I may interact with a bit on occasion (most), and friends that are my go-to, full trust, close friends (very few). I don't have the energy to give everyone that close friendship, so the close ones need to be special, like chosen family.

[@Jojo_creations]

Discord is the home of weirdos. You can’t say you’ve never seen a creep talk to another minor in discord at least once or thrice.

[@siren7138]

I’m female and I’m on discord… so people imitatively think it’s ok to be creepy because I’m a female and I am a minor so it happens so much I have gotten used to it (kinds sad but I learned ✨to give no f*cks✨

[@Jojo_creations]

@@siren7138 sucks

[@darkmodefox6213]

@@siren7138 huh, I'm also a female and on discord, and I've only had one person be creppy to me

[@CadenIsCaden]

7:54 Penguinz0 reference I see right there.

[@bernardogabrielaparicio6948]

Thanks for Sharing, I actually don't use discord that much but I always felt something creepy there I mean, I'm sure 90% of the People​ isn't like that but it's Still there.

[@AlexandreBugado]

When I created my Discord account, I joined many servers of several youtubers and streamers, but I started to realize that staying at very crowded servers wouldn't ad anything and I can't even talk to people without getting lost in those hundreds of unrelated messages. I started getting out of many servers, deactivated the notifications and everything is better now that I only use Discord to play with friends. Sometimes I'll check the 3 servers of people I follow that aren't too crowded and chat a little with different people

[@SilverDiesel]

I don't think I can ever create a discord either. And you just solidified it Shgurr. But honestly that sucks you had to deal with that but I'm glad to hear that your happy now 🙂

[@chaoticclonestudios]

I had a discord at one point and one of my irl friends joined and just caused chaos it was funny but still probably won't make another one

[@jpancoast]

First time on your channel, I love how the hand on your character moves with whatever you're drawing!! You just got a new sub...!

[@Zeruvyll]

I had a toxic, narcissistic ex friend that made me download discord to talk to him more- He gave me a lot of emotional trauma, and since then every time i see discord or other people using it I get so scared for them and really unwanted flashbacks to the horrible things he did to me and my friends. Discord being a popular app… it’s really hard to ignore it and the trauma he put me through when it’s everywhere.

[@hanac5586]

I'm sorry you had to go through that. I don't know if your ex friend was your online or IRL friend, but this is the reason I usually make two accounts and use the other account with new people. If they turn out weird I can just go to the other personal account without causing much ruckus.

[@Aashbard01]

I know what it's like to feel caught in the middle of everyone's issues, because one time in homeroom we were talking about school in general and everyone started saying bad things about it and I was really overwhelmed by it especially because I loved school so much and still do and ended up crying because of that, so I understand that.

[@DunpeilDueliest69]

Hey Shgurr, Oh my goodness, people are so nuts and Creepy in the worst possible way online, they just don't know how to behave properly like when they are outside of the internet. I'm so happy that you made the executive decision on deleting and shutting down the Discord, Keep yourself and your family safe, especially your brother. Look after yourself and take care Shgurr. 😊 😊

[@bladethewitch1442]

I've never seen a video of yours even in my life but it's so chill thanks

[@jaydongraham9087]

I love this video because she pretty much described the average discord experience if you have any sort of status on the platform.

[@vernowietsch]

Oh man I feel this. I've been in exactly one big/open server once, and it was just constant people arguing about whatever. I felt really intimidated by that, so I never really dared to say anything myself so I left a couple days later. I could never imagine being one of the content creators running one of these. I still like the service itself, but I only use it as communication in groups of people I know personally, and that's more than enough for me

[@Clovertipzz]

I feel so bad that you had to go through all this stuff with fans/other people, I always had the same problems because everybody was expecting me to always stick up for them, I even gave them my answers for tests to help them but they were just using me to pass grades.

[@iSlammedMyKindle]

This was interesting to hear about. In a way I'm in an opposite situation where I'm avoiding Twitter XP Discord has felt like it's best to me when communities are small; in a super large pool of individuals it always felt hard to just try to chime into a conversation that was going by quickly. A discord server getting bigger definitely sounds like something that can't be done alone, there's a lot of stress that can break a person. There's also the concept too of parasocial relationships which you touched as well that makes things tricky. I have no idea where this comment is going XP - it was a new perspective for me to hear; enjoyed the video a lot!

[@Reesaro]

Shgurr: friendships are born Me, a swiftie: FRIENDS BREAK UP FRIENDS GET MARRIED STRANGERS GET BORN AND STRANGERS GET BURIED RULES CHANGE RUMORS FLY THROUGH NEW SKIES BUT IM RIGHT WHERE YOU LEFT ME. Edit: I hope this comment didn’t make anyone think I was trying to undermine the points Shgurr made here, I have a hard time making friends with a lot of people cause I get overwhelmed with who to spend my time with and disappointing others. The best friendships are born when they’re not purposely made and I genuinely believe that.

[@KazoooGod]

did you write that?

[@Reesaro]

@@KazoooGod It’s a Taylor swift lyric haha

[@melvinmerkelhopper5752]

@@Reesaro Which song?

[@Reesaro]

@@melvinmerkelhopper5752 Right Where You Left Me - Taylor Swift (it’s on the Evermore album)

[@KmVwOfficial]

She turned herself into Moist Critical at the end. Funniest thing I’ve ever seen.

[@spacedoodles]

If that's the funniest then... oh boy..

[@AleksandarBell]

I’m only in one public discord server and it’s 16+, and it’s a completely different experience. People are so much more chill and understanding

[@Toaster-draws]

I understand your points. I don't usually use Discord a lot. The most I do on there is post art in the art chat.

[@isafan3]

When I had discord I would get so overwhelmed trying to calm everything down, and I would always get bullied out of the servers. It was so annoying so i'm happy I left :) Also glad i'm not the only one with that problem.

[@urlocal.laufeyfan]

You do you because drama is something you'd want to avoid :'D

[@thomasmalone7454]

I agree with this i learned it the hard way that drama can be really intense especially if you have anxiety issues

[@Levi-zv7bd]

Oh, i understand that absolutely. Sometimes while i watch your Video, I've got distracted by that amazing Drawing. It was so fascinating to see how the Drawing-Process goes, that i had to remind me to listen, so i had to go back a few Seconds, so i don't miss anything of your Story

[@smaaron_j_46]

I think Discord is the home for a vast majority of online drama for people. I remember using this emo Toon Link pfp back in 2020 to express how depressed I am, and boy little did I know how bad it would really get for me 💀 I would hang out with a legitimately toxic friend, and I felt like I had to cling on because I felt like I would be lonely if I didn't. And those types of "friendships" are not worth your time btw, don't even bother with those types of people lol. Eventually, I just abandoned Discord and Twitter to find myself because I had major anxiety issues back in the day (still do honestly.. I relapse every so often :/). But I still DM some really good friends on there. I love them so much ☺❤

[@AntiSimpTrooper-175]

Being a friend to a youtuber seems like a dream to many. But those that do are usually stans. The loneliness will probably kill these people

[@loafisnot-here]

That's the perk of being a youtuber which sucks but people be like that sometimes it's hard yk

[@jakubpawlowski8664]

Your reasons for not having Discord are very legit Shannon. I have a discord but I use it for work related communication projects, deadlines etc. Communication is a big part of our society and Discord can sometimes help with that as it did for me.

[@god_2.0_the_better_version]

As someone who was a discord mod for a friend who needed my help, if you own or moderate for a server, view everyone as gremlins. Gremlin status only goes away once they prove themself better, and gremlin status people are chaotic 5 year olds.

[@gapplssb]

what an abstract mindset...not bad, but, it's not reliable exactly either

[@Art_de_Ari]

This is exactly the reason I not only dislike, but haaaaate being on servers that have quite a lot of members, because shit like this is BOUND to go down. I've been using Discord since mid-2016, and I have witnessed MANY of these happen, a lot where I was directly involved, a mod, an active member, or just a new member trying to find a server that suited me. Never again though lol, and like you said too many channels to navigate, feeling bad for not being able to respond to DMs, feeling overwhelmed - all good reasons to either use Discord only to talk to friends like I do, or not use it at all. Glad you decided to stop using it altogether, good on you and your mental health!

[@VegasMax3]

I totally relate to the limiting amount of people you are friends with. Like I don’t understand how someone has a thousand “friends”. To actually have a real friendship takes time and energy and there aren’t enough hours in the day to have that with many people. In reality, most people probably have a few friends and the rest are various acquaintances. I would say you can also have dormant friendships, where you were pretty close with someone for at least a small chunk of time and could consider them a friend, but then life circumstances separated you. However if you saw them again and life sort of brought you back together, it wouldn’t be too hard to start off the friendship again (unless something major has changed). This has been my TED talk.

[@VENEZIE_GX]

As a discord person who uses that app mostly, I totally agree and understand of how ppl act and really glad you made a good choice leaving it. Because I be seeing silly arguments everyday, some crazy, unnecessarily obscured chats that just should be deleted in the first place, or just rude and toxic people and more. I mean I only use it because because I just like using calls there or when I use one of the game’s servers for updates and stuff. So I know I’m a total stranger but have a nice and wonderful day or summer and happy pride month. :p

[@starchive7300]

can we appreciate that the stylus animation matches up with what shes drawing

[@DrillNotHere]

I have seen a lot in my life. I respect you shgurr. Life is a mess.

[@CaLypSO4456]

I kinda just use discord to talk to friends, I’m not part of any community servers, I don’t really understand that stuff 😅. So I get where your coming from Shgurr😄

[@webbysham6283]

These reasons you speak of are why I hinder on becoming a moderator in any public discord. So I'll just stick with private discord servers filled with my friend groups. Nothing to really worry about if you know the friend long enough where they won't cause trouble. It's also nice you can restrict others from inviting friends of friends so you can just have the people you specifically want onto your discord and no one else.

[@golfwang8084]

I left discord after being accused of cultural appropriation in a server for mentioning in a conversation about Russia that my great grandparents fled Russia due to being Jewish. It was such an off hand comment, and although Judaism isn’t part of my life personally it’s part of some of my cousin’s lives and my ancestors. I got immediately banned and sent a 5 paragraph essay explaining why I cannot talk about my Jewish ancestors because it’s a closed culture and I must convert to be allowed to talk about it.

[@Masterplanfoiler]

Ok now that's bad. What's the deal with people these days?

[@ItzInvidious]

ive never seen any of ur videos but just watching this one, im sorry that you had to be surrounded by so many toxic people.

[@JohnDolehi]

Good plan, discord is a cesspool

[@coach533]

There are two kinds of people on discord. The ones that exist quietly and peacefully, and the ones that chat respectfully with each other. The rest of them aren’t people.

[@lancetheking7524]

Discord is a large problem for famous people and minors, the only few who somehow molded to either be worse then these people or the ones who just tolerated and found the perfect server are lucky fellas

[@elshine3464]

Awwwww, I'm so sorry this was your experience Sugar! Discord is insane, as a moderator on a huge server I knew this(and wow did we have drama but not like you described😬😬😬) and tbh avoided that big server like the plague later also cause of overstimulation. You're an awesome person Sugar and I'm glad your new solution of having a smaller friend group was better for you❤. God bless on the rest of your work!

[@AceBeamedYou]

L YOU MOD FOR DISCORD GET A GRIP AND GET REAL LIFE ISNT DISCORD NOR A GAME GET A JOB YOUR PROLLY LIKE 20 YOU GEEK IM 15 PUTTING SENSE INTO YOU STOP PLAYING

[@gamerguy425]

Storytime animators and discord servers don't seem to mix well as far as I've seen, it's like they're either small and inactive or way too big and Chaotic AF, as you explain. There is like a critical mass with discord servers where they just seem to become a mess without really cracking down on moderation.

[@cherrypepermintbat]

I'm having this problem right now, last year I started my carrer as an independent artist and I'm waiting to study animation. When I opened a discord server back the I was so happy, I wasn't expecting to have one so soon and I was happy to be clooser to my fans... But now...so many things happened and...I wish I could delete it, leave discord forever and never open it again. I now have trust issues with my audience, my closest friends, and with myself. Even my romantic relationship was affected with all of this... I fall into a hole I never thaught I would fall again and I don't know what to do... One thing is sure, I'm never having this kind of parasotial relationship ever again. Thank you so mucho for sharing your expirience Shgurr, It releaves me to know I'm not the only one... 😊

[@Mr.Timwell]

Perfectly understandable. I've had my fair share of Discord bullshit. Left and right, either a nice time or a hell hole. As much as I would love to be Discord pals with you, I respect your choice. Love your vids! Keep up the great work!

[@aPumpkn]

that's the same reason I just don't go on Twitter. Thankfully I never grew up on it so I never had a need to use it, but the drama there is just too taxing on me. Thankfully I'm just one of the masses so I don't have to worry about popularity issues. I'm glad you learned how to say no to people, you don't exist to please people, you're a person too and I wish more people who go on those para-social tyrades understood that. Just recently found your channel and its fun to sit back and relax, its very calming for me. keep having fun, and thanks!

[@potorino]

Naur the ruining friendship thing is literally physcopath behavior. They purposely do that to make you vulnerable, and then they strike. People like this are absolutely disgusting.

[@Absitiam]

That’s why I only have a Discord for my personal IRL friends, so it’s private. Running a public Discord is a fucking nightmare, that’s for sure.

[@Barnghost]

Bruh, I got second-hand anxiety when you started talking about how people were jealous of you and trying to manipulate you.

[@azul1831]

I got this video randomly recommended, actually to have social media you have to accept people trying to reach at you if you're mildly popular. The best youtubers actually do is to not bond with anyone on their social media. On discord the best you can do is decide a group of staff that is strong enough to deal with people and will protect you from everyone as well as maintain it under control. I've been a mod in many servers around 100 to 500 members, I've been owner of one, and I noticed the only way to keep them under control is making them respect you entirely from the beginning, if they do, they won't dare trying at all. This is just some advice but if you won't make a discord it is entirely respectable, I just hope you did to join it because your art truly looks awesome and I just knew about ur existence lol

[@laffeydude3558]

Honestly I don’t blame ya. The public discord servers are the worst, you can never get through 1 normal day without witnessing drama after drama after drama after drama after drama. Dealing and witnessing drama every 5 minutes is so not worth my time and not what I signed up for. Discord should change its name to “Dramacord”.

[@yoshisarethebomb]

My experience was awful. Slurs, guilt tripping, gossiping that I condoned out of fear, unalive baiting, political arguments, creepy behavior, the constant amount of drama and bullying, that I quit. I left everything, deleted everything, and quit. It really was like a dr-g because you get addicted so easily for hours. But quitting made it all better. When that happened, I got called a “traitor” and “toxic” by online people all because I prioritized the real world and my own sanity over petty internet drama and weirdo internet people I’ll never see again. These people think that everything in d*sc*rd (censored for funny) is 100% private, even in a public group, and so they completely remove their filter and start becoming absolutely toxic and terrible people. I almost removed my filter, too. And had I continued, I would’ve been surrounded by nothing but awful behavior, which would make me so stressed. Quitting that messed up app is enough to turn your life around for the better! 😄

[@TeaSlurp_SDH]

shgurr2: *saying shish about discord* me: wow nice PaintTool SAI gameplay

[@nickthepick8043]

Yeah, I can relate to some degree, plus I had to learn the hard way on respecting other people's boundaries. That said, I definitely think Discord should be kept among small groups of friends.

[@WhoDatBoi.]

Made a discord for my fans, first time it aired i got several friend requests from strangers who wanted to be my friend but didn't even know me. All they do is like my content, which is fine but i don't make content for new friends honestly. Not to mention the negative responses I'd get from fans if i didn't respond in time or correctly...

[@doonomac7514]

"Oi, Internet stranger with an audience, be my friend, a random person who doesn't know you and only likes your content." "What? You don't want to be my friend?? HOW DARE YOU!!" Stupid people 🤦🏽

[@Nintenguin]

Discord is interesting. Lots of positives like making new friends and finding people who share the same interests. But on the other hand, people can be weird, annoying, and the app can become addictive if you’re not careful. I tend to find if you find a server that’s not too big or too small, and it’s a nice group, it’ll be fine. I also don’t imagine being the owner of the server is very fun to be honest.

[@Eman02kG]

Funny enough the app is called “discord”. They predicted the outcome of the making of their product

[@kira_calamari2431]

This is literally why I'm taking a break from discord now. I own and manage a discord server of 90+ people and it's exhausting. People don't understand that I'm not a robot,I get burnt out from all of this

[@peinguinpamacs6583]

to be honest I stopped using discord too because of toxicity of each servers and the mods almost never read back the chat to see whats really happened. they are all so bossy (NOT ALL OF THEM BUT THE MOST) and the 20 precent of the rules dont make sense anymore. also the amount of scammers and ip grabbers out there is just annoying. after I left discord my mental health became way better

[@Meleksekai]

Same

[@JordyAnimations]

Lol sounded like moist critical at the end lol! Loving the second channel btw 👏👏👏

[@thecwd8919]

I tried making a discord for my school and it was not a fun experience. A lot of drama. A lot of people trying to piss others off on purpose. No way to make everyone happy.