Why I'm Excited & Slightly Nervous For Brawlhalla

[@Cosolix]

What are your thoughts? Are you excited for the future major updates and/or nervous about the future? Either way Brawlhalla isn't going anywhere but I think this discussion is really interesting and important. (Sorry for the reupload if you were early, the first try had an audio issue and I took it down 30 min later)

[@7TheRobot]

I still do indeed play Brawlhalla, however I can definitely see where your coming from. The game is only fun when there is a compelling reason to play as you said so yourself in the video. For me, the game only feels exciting when Major New updates arrive. Usually its these things but not limited to: New Legends, New Weapon + Legend (February 5th, 2025 Btw), A Really Cool Skin If It Really Attracts & Compels Me, Balance Patches, Upcoming Guilds (Patch 9.04?), Etc. But when the update hype is over, and I already tried the new stuff they had to offer, the game becomes boring again and I just play Ranked and with my friends just for the sake of it. They definitely need to do something that will establish Brawlhalla to become a really fun game always or at least almost always!

[@Miguel_Ballard_18]

I am excited.

[@kharii_db]

I just want some more support for west or that we get like a central server😭

[@NostalgicFritzy]

I couldn't agree more with the point about having a community. I have just returned to Brawlhalla after longer than a year simply to play with friends. An online game needs an online community, whether you like it or not, and if you want your online game to be successful you need to grow it and nurture it.

[@luffy3085]

I completely agree. but there's still one thing that nobody talks about, why is gadgets on by default on ranked queue, and tournament maps are disabled, doesn't this split the queue and give a bad experience for new players?

[@kharii_db]

yea i see these people posting ranked videos and i'm like why are gadgets on

[@grumpypoof9648]

I was under the impression it doesn't split the queue. The way I understood it was that if you queue into a player that has them banned, they will be banned. So the only time there will be gadgets is if two players who don't have them banned match. Otherwise it would split everyone up way too much. Can you imagine how long it could take if you only match with someone who has the same exact maps banned and gadgets? That would be stupid. You get matched first, then the other stuff is taken into account.

[@kharii_db]

@@grumpypoof9648 gadgets do split the queue this isn't smash ultimate, and I don't know about how it works when it comes to tournament maps but map bans just means you will never get the map you have banned

[@tray_house]

I completley agree. I hit diamond like 8 months ago and I've never played the game for more than 15 minutes without getting bored unless I'm playing with friends. I also think there should be a small punishment for people when they disconnect matches especially ranked matches. it's kinda annoying queuing into a ranked match expecting to fight someone good just to fight a bot 20 seconds later.

[@Soulstealer481]

An idea I had for the guilds is when completing guild missions you get guild points kinda like ranked points which you can use to buy exclusive guild shop weapon skins buddies ko effects and skins

[@JiroToDeath]

Loved the video. You definitely hit home with my perspective on the game as a whole and where it's going. Very excited for the new character and the guilds, but I would LOVE a twist on the gameplay formula as well. Been playing the game for about 6 years now and it DOES get stale a little.

[@adrianplaatjies8780]

Cosolix you totally give my brawlhalla-play-journey direction. Its been really insightful and fun. All the best.

[@walu876]

I play rn, I'm super late to join the BH community as I only have like 160 hours lmao. I absolutely love this game, I played smash pseudo-competitively but never felt like it was my game (big reasons were projectiles and lack of movement freedom in my opinion). I tried BH cause a good friend wanted me to hop on and vibe and I fell in love. The movement, no shield camping, dodging, reading, strings, etc all have felt great to me. I am a decent player imo, especially for being newer and I absolutely LOVE the BH content scene on YT. Cosolix, Pavelski, Planet Micro, Eggsoup, etc all make me love the game even more and consistently care for it. Overall, I love the game and it's mechanics (except some weapons pissing me off lmao) and enjoy playing, BUT I never touch ranked cause 1. no reason to and 2. the players are emote spamming shitters who abuse stuff, which is what it is. I love this game but as you said, I have no reason to play other than enjoying playing with friends.

[@enigmaa85]

i used to play pretty often because i wanted to reach diamond. I dont play that often anymore and I still didnt reach diamond but I just got tired of the same thing every time. It feels like ranked and cosmetics are the only ways of brawlhalla to make players enjoy their game

[@lTryhrdl]

The game needs to punish passive play so badly every match feels like a game of gay tag. imagine if you could do something to nerf people floating all the damn time or punish people who just back dash into oblivion in a more conventional way.

[@JADEN_THE_ONE]

Honestly I agree but it's a play style it's annoying when I usually played stop for like two months Priya go bring me back I think the passive play is mostly about the platforms

[@lTryhrdl]

@JADEN_THE_ONE its about making a 5 min match turn into a 15 min match because the person wants a cheap win. Terrible for a fighting game

[@ellocopungi5713]

that wouldn't be brawlhalla anymore, if you want to play a plat fighting game with a more chaotic neutral then go play smash or rivals of aether 2

[@game4live20]

Try playing on EU servers, you would only get the most aggressive try hard monsters all the time…. I legit beg for someone to play more passive but they never do😅

[@lTryhrdl]

@@ellocopungi5713 you can keep the identity of the game with a few changes i believe there is just some small tweaks to be made (i.e nerf super safe moves and aerial camping). They've nerfed off stage camping before so I think they can cook something up to counter such a toxic play style. Maybe its something that cant change, but i see it as a common denominator that drives people away from this game

[@enigmaa85]

you know what would be cool? daily misson update, maybe for example if you do all missions in a week you get a free hardlight weapon skin for example

[@LeadHAver]

at 11 minutes thats actually a sick idea

[@Entity_BlackRed777]

I am REALLY interested in this, but unfortunately can't play Brawlhalla due to work job PLUS I don't have a controller anymore. And been like this since 6 months ago or so.

[@AskArie]

It's okay, issues can occur to everyone!

[@BaronDipitous]

Yeah, I see what you mean about the focus on cosmetics. I think your points are very valid, especially from a competitive community perspective. My reasons to still play the game & participate in the community are so different from the norm that I don't think any response I would have to any of your points would be helpful. I see what you mean about being concerned for Brawlhalla's future. I think you have good reasons to be. At the same time, I feel like this is the 4th or 5th time over the past 6+ years I've seen people express this kind of concern about the game (It's been years since you had me help you with a "Brawlhalla is Dying" video with evidence from Google search data, etc.). At some point, Brawlhalla will end. At some point, it will go the way of many fighting games before it by having its flaws outweigh its fun, as any game inevitably will. I have my own questions & concerns about the game & the devs & the community. But I also think this upcoming 10th year will be something special for all of us, and I'm sure the devs can't wait to show us what they have in store. Good video, as usual. :)

[@Cosolix]

Great response and thanks for watching the video ❤️ One thing I disagree with is “Brawlhalla will end”. I think turning Brawlhalla into the soccer of platform fighting games is possible and it could outlive all of us. It really depends on the efficiency in decision making when updating the game. That’s largely why I care so much about this topic. Relying on cosmetics to create replayability is not the answer to accomplish longevity forever nor are more events like skirmishes. The guilds are fucking awesome and I think Brawlhalla should lean more into features that organically create community. It’s sad to see such a large divide between casual Brawlhalla players and members of the active Brawlhalla community.

[@Cosolix]

Also the “Brawlhalla is dying” video was honestly factual looking back. Search demand for the game is less than half it was back then despite there being like 2x more players who have played Brawlhalla. Too many in the community have left sadly. With the right features they can come back but it’s going to take a lot of BMG to implement the right features into the game. Also my dream and many others to be a fulltime Brawlhalla content creator is pretty much dead. That was definitely part of it, older Brawlhalla creators who stopped don’t have enough of an incentive to financially and motivationally want to post. Ofc Brawlhalla will never completely die but the size of our community and aspirational dreams of many are definitely dead compared to what it once was. They can still change things and I’m excited for this year but also worried

[@BaronDipitous]

@ Looking at your two replies, I can definitely see what you're saying. I've noticed all of that myself, especially the generally waning desire to be a "Brawlhalla content creator." I've personally never seen content creation or pro playing as something anyone can reliably aim towards for a full-time job (Yes, it is possible, but it doesn't seem sustainable in the long term beyond a hobbyist realm). I'm hoping my 10 Brawlhalla projects announced thru Quillborn can help reignite some of that creative fire in the community, but if nothing else I'm just grateful to still be able to play this game, interact with its community, look for ways to help improve things, & most of all make cool stuff. Your other comment mentioned that you don't think Brawlhalla will end. I guess I was thinking more along the lines of how I don't think Brawlhalla will be around in 100 years or something. But I do agree that Brawlhalla will be around for a long while yet. Then again, maybe you're right. Maybe Brawlhalla will outlive all of us. Video games in general are too new to know for sure.

[@nittyman5054]

7:05 i personally disagree, but i get where you're coming from. I actually enjoy watching players like yuz, his 2024 grand finals performance is definitely up there as one of my favourite sets of all time. I think there's a big difference between players who have very good neutral and players who run away and shark. I don't think the solution should be to buff advantage state because it would make string weapons an absolute nightmare to play against, and give less reason to play more neutral based weapons like sword axe hammer spear bow blasters etc. I feel like if the general playerbase understood things like stage control and pressure better then there would be way less complaints about passive play because they actually understand what's happening. I like brawlhalla because there are different playstyles that you can succeed with, I don't want everyone to turn into aggressive button mashers who only play for the advantage state dopamine hits all game. it's getting to the point where I get flamed for being "passive" when I'm holding centre stage against a scythe player sitting in the corner mashing every time I get near them, like ofc i have to play a little more patient. I think its important for the game to be able to accommodate a variety of playstyles while also providing ways to counter them, the dash changes were really good for rewarding grounded gameplay which made it so much easier to counter the extremely passive players with absolutely no sense of stage control. at its core i still think it's good that brawlhalla rewards "aggressive" play more due to the very nature of stage control, where you have to be proactive to win interactions. it's all about maintaining the balance, if you're too passive, you give up too much stage, find less punishes and you get punished for wasting your defensive options. if you're too aggressive, you also give up too much stage, you force your opponent to parry you out, and get punished for overextending. the real issue is that players need to go out of their way to find resources to get better at the game, which is the same for any fighting game tbh

[@gmdmosnuckel]

This is why Cosolix's upcoming fighting game is gonna be better then brawl

[@jamaaelmariano3242]

If a chakaras legend has a lot of dexterity, would it be annoying to just spam side lights, seeing as the weapon is being thrown.

[@sebastianbelu1417]

Everyone saying to shut up about monetization cuz its optional. But this argument is so old and annoying. Yeah just play the for the longest time of your life without any way of earning in game currency to get something. I have no reason to play other than just go on ranked if Im sweaty but Im not sadly, I dont enjoy to see the elo go up a bit and then plummet down along with my sanity

[@Uncarb]

But will mobile have guilds?? We dont even have post game chat or the option to add friends, soo i believe we will be excluded?

[@gi-trigger8176]

I cant wait till there’s another dreamhack in eu with a brawlhalla tournament

Imagine how expensive are the cosmetics for my people, where 1 dollar costs 6 of our money and our minimum wage is half of usa's

[@EK-ep1cv]

The solution is brawlhalla 2

[@grumpypoof9648]

There is no reason to not have casual 1v1s. Its so stupid. How hard is it to have it? They could do it tomorrow without breaking a sweat. Also, ranked should have 2 playlists. The regular 1v1 and set 1v1 where you have to win 2 out of 3. I would make winning a set reward slightly more elo then winning 2 regular ranked matches.

[@Cosolix]

Too many queues is a bad thing but I like your thinking

[@XuX2450]

The big thing i see in any ranked from gold up or even below gold and up is the desyncing problems with matchmaking with players across the world or is in a neighboring country with a different regional connection that the rank que algorithm still isn't polished and follow through a cross regional matchmaking and this is still true in non-ranked game modes! Not to mention the inconsistencies of legend pairing in a match que with the same legend for like 30 times in a row especially in ranked, A big NO NO! And the weapon balancing of each seasonal reset of a new update is starting to get way too damaging for not just the new players but the returning players as same goes with how the living placement matchmaking in ranked is still a thing? It barely gives a reasonable boost to you against an opponent that in a placement match 1 or 2+ games it is not even worth going back into it and overall, just feel shitty after playing the placement matches is not the way for Brawlhalla's future.

[@besa7847]

I am not excited about brawlhalla at all. I have around 2k hours. I played competitively in local turnometers, online turnometers etc. My main problem isn't the big patch notes or the monetization the codes but the state of the game itself isn't good at all, the power creep is going to get rly bad if they don't make some huge changes. I believe that if the current trend (of weapons with stances, sigs or light attacks) will lead to a a point where the power creep is going to get insane even for a fighting game because of the core weapon mechanic and mechanics of the game in general. The new weapons that have stances should either have bad options because they have more of quantity of options then other weapons, but that will make it garbage to play so they can't do that. If this continues, more characters more stances' ect. They would need to buff other weapons to make up for the lack of options that they have, they can't rework the whole roster its imposible but giving other weapons that don't have stances more priority damage etc. that will make it super unfun to play against it's a lose lose. The game has a core flaw in its design. It built up such a roster but it doesn't give the dev team a lot of room for creativity 3 signs per weapon and characters share weapons its not a lot of room to do something to big without affecting too many other characters. They can't go balls to the walls like in other fighters so it cancels ichother out because weapons have a really limited move set that is intertwined. That's my personal opinion and experiance i have found myself playing less and less not becuse i have to little time is that it simply isn't fun anymore and i dont think making such weapons and charachers will change some of the core desing philosphies.

[@SlushFiend]

like you said nerf disadvantage state. compensate for match time or adaption time in other ways. current brawlhalla is so boring to watch/play. also i noticed a trend of people giving up when they hit diamond because valhallan feels impossibly far, so more incentive to keep going would be cool. elo is just elo.

[@xdmoney11]

I think it's ok if it's not too crazy with gameplay changes. I think of rocket League that doesn't have much changed but is still great. Brawl is a different game so it does need SOME stuff but it doesn't have to be crazy

[@alkebu-lanmarcus3525]

Definitely a small community. Running into someone day after day in the free for all queue is wild

[@Jaheim1537]

another thing is the skirmishes are so bad all the time when you wanna see which team is winning it just says skirmish is nearly tied and its super annoying for me atleast if they fix that skirmishes will be so much better (also add free rewards to consoles in some way so much features are removed in the console version its actually sad)

[@mimos7214]

Showing details can have a horrible effect too though, yeah "tied" is bothersome but any advantage attributed to a faction will likely create a snowball effect of people joinin that faction to win

[@misterfedorattv]

Also cosmetics are a great reward but they're not being incentivized in the right areas. Think of all the coins you've got sitting around, why isn't there a sink for those, like maybe a chest roll system to get skins and weapons or colors that are no longer obtainable? Oooor of you want to incentivize players harder, make a reward track that gets you premium currency, ie mammoth coins. For instance, smite gives you enough premium coins to get a chest roll if you log in for four months and that doesn't even have to be consecutive logins. Warframe has a trading market they could take some notes from too, the point is give players a free chase for a premium product that isn't a year long endeavor, it's a consistent retention strategy

[@N1ghtMare2315]

Another sad thing is that my game doesn't even have the earn free rewards button it popped up once but never again, i dunno if other South African players experience this or if its just me though

[@AromaticMetal0147]

I got this in swaziland too Came twice and never again Maybe it was a glitch and was only meant for western countries

[@Spookweave]

It pops up for me but doesn't work, it says I'm at 49 of 50 (which I did not get to) and if I try to watch for rewards the game crashes.

[@OPODRAO]

and skyrmish can also disincentive ranked even more, lets say i want my faction upgraded avatar, if i would to be a shit player, i probably would not play ranked since if i play and lose i would screw my faction more than help, like let better players carry... + ranked avatars why would i try get 2600 elo, if i get 2000 i get an season avatar upgrade, if i get 3000 i still only get 1 upgrade, if i didn't got diamond in all seasons i will always be late, and never will reach the actual season avatar at the same time as veterans, so to make players engage in getting more elo than 2000 all season, make so every point of elo you get above 2000 get stored, so if you didn't got diamond in one season because you pc died or else, you can use your accumulated elo to lvl up one time, this would cost 2000 legendary elo(the stored/acumulated elo from above 2000 you got on the end of the season), for upgrading a plat avatar 1600 legendary elo... remember you can only gain legendary elo by passing 2000, this means if i end the season in 2400 i get 400 legendary elo, if i end in 1960 i don't get any legendary elo

[@dingo9644]

They should fix the snap dash shittery

[@DarkSparkYT]

“I think the chakrams will be very popular” no they won’t. They said it about boots. They said it about Greatsword. Chakram will be popular for a couple months then we all go back to our mains

[@Cosolix]

Greatsword is very popular. I would say it's the second most popular weapon to scythe. The additional mechanics make it more interesting imo

[@DarkSparkYT]

@ I’d argue it’s gauntlets, guns, then greatsword if anything

[@tenacityniccur4444]

why do you guys get free rewards

[@tenacityniccur4444]

ive checked i DO NOT Get thatttt

[@vexzee7711]

its all good until you notice you barely can watch one of those videos per day because it vanishes and take too long to appear again, enough for you even forget about it and lost it all... and for the 20 dollars pack, could be expansive but in south America and those places it goes to 120 Reais or around it, that could be one tenth of your salary... still love the game tho

[@Nycashout]

first

[@yagsoidosgaydi]

2nd?

[@misterfedorattv]

Imagine having money to go to a LAN lmao

[@Cosolix]

Imagine there are so many LANS and lots of support so there is one in your local area :D

[@Reaperbot-o8w]

Skill issu

[@gjisahappytoad9408]

Shallowest game ever that never deserved the success it got. If you still play this game you are a drone.

[@ŁØĻIŁØVÈŘ21]

WHEN IS THE CLANS COMING TO MOBILE