Why I’m never landing in Oakland again, and how San Francisco has changed over the past 30 years.

[@AnonymousV4]

TLDW: Guy who flies his private plane into San Francisco to eat at upscale restaurants and shop at luxury malls thinks the Oakland airport fees are too much, won't return.

[@kleverich]

Thank you.

[@pi.actual]

Charge this guy fifty bucks and you'll never see him again.

[@frankrosenbloom]

Typical BS envy. Must be a Democrat. You don't know anything about this guy. Many times people who own general aviation aircraft sacrifice quite a lot to be able to fly. They may live in homes that are not the ultimate homes they would have bought, They may drive cars that are multiple years old instead of getting new cars, and they sacrifice in other ways so that they have the ability to fly. This trash talk by people who sit glued to their sofas hours a day watching TV and perusing social media is a ridiculous. Kudos to this gentleman for living his dream. Probably worked his **** off his entire life. California is purposely trying to kill general aviation believing that climate change is the most important thing as their cities burn and decay. But it will not affect the super wealthy such as George Soros or Bill Gates. Those of us who fly in general aviation do so with a mind always directed toward maximum economy possible. That's the way we afford to do it.

[@StevePetrica]

Distracting music.

[@pilotescapes6328]

@@StevePetrica thanks for the feedback. Was all of the music distracting or just portions?

[@R.Instro]

​@@pilotescapes6328 It was just loud the whole time. Listening to ATC when it got even a little busy was basically impossible for me over the music.

[@sociopathicnarcissist8810]

@@pilotescapes6328 Music needs to be much quieter, it was distracting and almost impossible to hear ATC over the music. People are not here for your music choices, they are here for your content. If you make it difficult for people to watch your videos, they simply will not.

[@chrisi3030]

@pilotescapes6328 I thought this was a great video. Maybe some didn’t understand the purpose. The approach to 28R was fun. Yea you couldn’t hear all the Comms but that wasn’t what the video was about. The ATC calls were boiler plate with no exciting incident to hear honestly I’d rather hear the soundtrack knowing what an ILS approach is like. I understood the video to be a case and point of why you love “The City”. The emotion of the good things to see and do builds to make the point that KOAK has turned its nose on GA in favor of the corporate jets.which is a shame because of what is lost as a GA gate way to it all. This is happening all over and is a shame but with the growth of the Biz Jet community who of coarse focused on airports like KOAK to avoid the cost and hassle of SFO and SJC. It won’t be long before HWD, PAO or SQL pick up the slack. Another choice for you could be O69. You must try the 29’r dinner. Also being on the north side of the bay you could go direct to the fort.

[@PetesGuide]

@@pilotescapes6328 The volume is nearly the same as your voice. Try dropping it to 1/2 or 1/4 of present.

[@432b86ed]

Folks who are interested in the geeky details of aviation don't usually need (read: want) background music to keep them interested. Please consider this comment in the manner it was intended. Keep the videos coming. Best regards.

[@NoName-zn1sb]

No, don't! You only get one chance and you lost it! I'm out at 2"20

[@williampotter2098]

@@NoName-zn1sb Smarter than I am. I was out at 7:19,

[@cookdb1]

Music? Really?

[@NoName-zn1sb]

Right 💯!

[@wolfgangmarvelous7239]

I made it through about 2 or 3 minutes and had to stop. The blaring and irritating music drowned out some of the ATC exchanges. Better luck next time.

[@AlanMydland-fq2vs]

Chill

[@NoName-zn1sb]

That's right!

[@NoName-zn1sb]

@@AlanMydland-fq2vs Can't. "Music" is too loud!

[@YamahaDigital]

Consider reposting with this idiotic background music removed.

[@MrSixstring2k]

Hard to make your voice out sometimes because of the music.

[@NoName-zn1sb]

FOR SURE! I checked out at 2:20. Won't watch ever again.

[@cburnley73]

I recently moved away from the Bay Area after 50 years to another state for many of the reasons you illustrated in your video. It is very sad to see all the changes and the seemingly unwillingness to change anything. I do come back quite often and I might suggest flying into Hayward or if your destination is San Francisco, San Carlos is also a good friendly airport. Neither of them are currently charging landing fees and have reasonable overnight fees. If fuel is your concern, a short trip to Tracy or almost anywhere outside of the bravo typically have at least a $1+ per gallon savings. Having said all that, San Francisco can still be amazingly enjoyable, but there are certain areas that need to be avoided particularly at night.

[@Gulf_Sierra]

San Carlos KSQL is VERY friendly. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ-xaX2Jh72Df6s kzbin.info/www/bejne/foHEfp2JirihZ7s kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGe4hWZupdJ5ja8

[@jonconner3019]

I had my plane hangared at KOAK until last year. Everything you describe on the positive side is spot on. On the negative side, costs at Kaiser, as a person based there you don't see that except when dealing with fuel. But what you really need to recognize is that the just don't want GA there.

[@dennythomas8887]

"But what you really need to recognize is that the just don't want GA there." 👍spot on statement. Signature FBO's are doing the same thing. Making it to expensive to park or get fuel for the weekend 172/Cherokee pilots. They do not want GA traffic. They want biz jets with their fat wallets and large fuel tanks. I self disqualified do to age and medical reasons a few years ago but when I was still active I would never land at any airport that only had Signature as an FBO. The squeeze on GA has been happening for quite a while now, but it's just getting more obvious.

[@CaptainRon1913]

Didn't know this was going to be a tour guide video to show how much money you have

[@garygolfer3243]

There is nothing in this video that indicates an above average income. 👍

[@williamshockley7692]

@@garygolfer3243 Did you not see the -attractive- *Gorgeous* blonde bombshell with the 20 year age gap, young enough to be his daughter as his companion throughout the video ? Those are _always_ super expensive whether you rent them by the hour or own them outright. The high maintenance fees on them are exorbitant but worth the investment.

[@garygolfer3243]

Holy Nosewheel! Your comment is entirely fact based! I may need to get some details and amend my post. 👍

[@andrewjackson5127]

You could cut out the first seven minutes and you would have a better video. In fact, you've got a lot of filler in here. That means nothing to your topic. I stopped at about eight minutes after having fast forwarded.

[@NoName-zn1sb]

I only lasted until 2:20

[@vgrof2315]

Interesting, but why ham it up with the goofy music?

[@johnhanson9245]

LMAO..."San Fransisco has changed dramatically in the last 6-7 years, but not just because of crime"? "It was mostly from the pandemic". No it's mostly because of liberal policies that have encouraged crime and to say crime is up by only 12% is just insane...Look, if it was caused by the pandemic, all cities would be suffering...I am intimately familiar with SF....It is in the toilet and will never get out...Major grocery stores and drug stores have pulled out...Why? Crime.. Not lack of business crime! Safeway and CVS and Walgreens specifically said, "CRIME"..The only in and Out Burger in Oakland just pulled out...I'm trying to remember why...Oh wait...It was "crime"...

[@AmadorCowboy]

I agree with pretty much everything you said. I landed at Oakland once several years ago on an Angel Flight Mission. They could not have been more helpful and waived the landing fees. It really felt like I was at a much smaller airport. Usually when flying into the Bay Area I have used San Carlos or Palo Alto. San Carlos has tricky wind patterns and I much prefer Palo Alto. San Francisco (the city, not the airport) is another story. As we live only 90 miles away, it used to be a fun weekend getaway. We even honeymooned there many years ago. Last time we were there about 8 years ago now, it was already in serious decline. We used to enjoy strolling down Market St. and Union Square and shopping. Even at that time, there were druggies passed out on the street and it was necessary to step over the pools of urine. Those that were awake were begging, some rather aggressively. When I came back to my car, a homeless woman was urinating on the rear wheel. And now its only gotten worse and many of the stores we used to enjoy have moved on. But they spend $5M a year to hand out drinks to alcoholics in what they call a controlled program. We refuse to patronize a city like this that can no longer control itself.

[@telescope497]

Sorry, but I lost interest at about the 3 minute mark..... Consider different (quieter) music.... Thanks...

[@lawman5511]

Well, if your fees are high and you have no business, raise the fees even more to get more revenue.. classic California understanding of business economics.

[@scottwheeler9579]

music is wayyyy tooooo loud.

[@Thankz4sharing]

Add this comment to the many others who dislike the music in this context. It contributes nothing and interferes with what is important to hear.

[@TheKnoxcountry]

Nice video! Good activity recommendations and a little spotlight shining on something you want changed. Little history lesson in there too. ✨

[@r2dad282]

Glad you enjoy Yank Sing, but it's very touristy and expensive. More convenient if staying downtown SF, but then again hotels around union square aren't what they used to be, either. Consider the chinese shopping districts in the west part of the city (Taraval, Noriega, Clement, Irving) . We used to go to Koi Palace (daly city) weekly, and they have added Dragon Beaux on Geary. Our current favorite hole in the wall is Riverside Seafood on Vicente. Also, possibly consider Smith Ranch (now rebranded as San Rafael Airport) in the north bay, or Gnoss in Novato, to avoid the Oakland and SF dumpster fires. Hegenberger, the 880 offramp to OAK, is a no-go zone.

[@fishhisy]

I used to fly for fedex out of Oakland and I asked signature how much it cost to land a 150 there and it was over 100 bucks for no good reason

[@dennythomas8887]

Signature here is the same. 20 gallons of 100LL and "parking fee's (while you get fuel) come to over $300, that was 5 years ago. But they would be happy to wave the "fee's" if you buy 100 gallons or more of fuel. The Cherokee we were in would only hold 100 gallons if we put 10 Jerry cans in the back seat. 🤣 The reason for the fee's is your GA is taking up space they could put a Gulfstream or a Citation in.

[@richardpark3054]

Us little GA guys at KOAK have felt that the Port of Oakland hates our guts for years.

[@JohnBrain-y6p]

I agree KOAK is killing its self with fees. I’m based out of KHWD just two miles away we have the same controllers for NorCal and great tower controllers without the landing fees. Two great FBO’s on the field also. Maybe try the South Bay for restaurants until SF gets its stuff together. CA has lots of problems and people like to point them out but there are still many good things going on here.

[@latetotheparty184]

Those homeless people must be very well behaved to have the lowest crime rates in 60 years in San Francisco. ( If you believe it )

[@JohnShalamskas]

Since the City refuses to engorce the law against shoplifters and drug abusers, people have stopped reporting crimes that are ignored by the DA. So the statistics are skewed due to lack of reporting. Bottom line is, do not go to SF, for it has become lawless and corrupt.

[@markusanderson1517]

Good info ... thanks for passing it along.

[@kwd3109]

Sorry, music was just too loud to enjoy the video. It's very distracting and unnecessary.

[@brookswilson1072]

The major problem with areas like this is the left wing politics which do not support law enforcement and go overboard with the woke agenda. San Francisco is my favorite city. I was born in Berkeley. I ran the Bay to Breakers three times, either when on active duty at Treasure Island (1980-83) or as a retired Marine. I am a life member of the Marines Memorial Club (2 blocks off Union Square). I worked in the City in 1987-89 as an administrator for a large security firm providing high rise security. I no longer go there because of all the negatives created by bad administration. It breaks my heart. I think things may be starting to turn around, however, as the voters in SF fired their mayor and attorney general (I think that is the title). The citizens are getting sick and tired of the mayhem. I wish them all the success as the City deserves to be a jewel once again.

[@CSacto]

Are you on the "Cradle Roll" at Alta Bates?

[@brookswilson1072]

@@CSacto I have no idea what "Cradle Roll" means, but I was born in the Alta Bates Hospital.

[@CSacto]

@ LOL I had to edit the above to read, "Are you ON the Cradle Roll...?" I don't know if they still do it, but they used put up a big poster where the listed the babies born that year. I didn't know about this until I was in my 40s and a reason to visit AB for work. Some rolls have gone missing - I never found the 1965 roll with my name on it. It is my understanding is that a few were lost in storage during the big construction years. But I did see my younger brother's hand written entry on the year he was born. They have a few decades worth of them. They were all framed hanging on various walls in the hospital

[@brookswilson1072]

@@CSacto Never knew about the CR. I was born in 1945 at the end of WWII and wonder if they even had stuff like that then.

[@atoz09093]

It's been sad to see such beautiful cities (Oakland has some beauty, too!) struggling so much. Hopefully they'll pull it together before I'm too old to visit again. It is a complicated issue, but there are many simple solutions that can build together to make a real change. The brief shot of the fuel bill was interesting, too. I'm not a pilot, but I've always wondered how much fuel general aviation aircraft use. I've seen estimates that commercial aircraft average 50 passenger-miles per gallon of jet fuel-is it comparable for smaller aircraft? There are fewer people onboard, but also there are smaller (and fewer) engines. I'm also hoping to see some smaller aircraft electrified in my lifetime!

[@laura-ann.0726]

Small single-engine General-Aviation aircraft like the Cessna 172 or Beechcraft Bonanza have fuel consumption rates between 8 and 12 gallons per hour, and cruise at about 130 to 160 mph. A Cessna 172 with people sitting in all 4 seats (assuming you can carry 4 people and not exceed maximum takeoff weight), will likely be cruising at 5,000 feet, 130 mph, burning 8 gallons per hour = 16.25 miles per gallon x 4 people = 65 passenger-mpg. Larger, 6-passenger, higher-performing planes like a Beechcraft Bonanza with a turbocharged 6-cylinder engine might be burning 24 gallons per hour, but flying at 180 mph at 12,000 feet. That works out to 45 passenger-mpg. That's not as good fuel economy as a C-172, but you get where you're going in less time, and the turbocharged engine gives you a higher ceiling - usefull when you might be flying from the Bay Area to Reno and you need to cross the Sierra Nevada mountains. Turbo-prop single engine aircraft like the Cessna 208 Caravan or Pilatus PC-12 have much higher fuel burn rates than piston engines, and cost way more to purchase, but the turboprop engine gives these planes the ability to carry much heavier cargo loads and fly at higher altitudes. The costs of ownership of even the smallest planes, like the Cessna 152, are now so high that "recreational" flying is almost dead. Most people who own airplanes, even small ones, are using them in some way to make money, or to offset income for tax purposes. Oh, there are still relatively wealthy people who can afford recreational flying as a hobby, but it's not like it was before the 1970's, when it was still possible to buy an older Piper Cub for not much more than the price of a good used car, and avgas wasn't ridiculously expensive like it is now at $8.00/gallon.

[@kenheaney4803]

Maybe the music and the video doesn't match but the music on its own is pretty cool.

[@fkoschnick4313]

Lousy foreground music. Absolutely don't need theatrical. interfering, useless noise to drown out and otherwise informative and interesting presentation. Obviously just my take.

[@NoName-zn1sb]

You're right!

[@U.S.bill2066]

Fisherman's Wharf? Is there Anything actually Left? Just found your channel and I was hoping it would be more Aviator Oriented. Instead, its more like an episode from the Love Boat. Would love more "Pilot Talk" as a Pilot Myself.

[@laura-ann.0726]

Fisherman's Wharf, Hyde Street Pier, the Embarcadero, and Aquatic Park are still pretty much the same as I remember from my childhood growing up in North Beach 60 years ago. There have been changes in the various restaurants and shops, of course, and the same crowds of tourists swarm everywhere, especially in nice weather, but other areas of the City, like lower Market Street, SOMA, the Mission District, and especially the Tenderloin, these have been hit hard by rampant drug addiction and homelessness, and are now more or less "no-go" zones. I wouldn't feel safe walking around any of those places, especially at night.

[@ronaldmiller8792]

That music drowned out all of the atc communications. Please lower the volume in your next videos

[@SeattleBoatdog]

Good lord LOSE THE MUSIC!

[@BoseongCowboy]

??-It is too expensive-?? Did you need 16m30s??

[@NoName-zn1sb]

Right! Go back to whatever it is that you do best!

[@SI-lg2vp]

Your under the false assumption that OAK welcomes piston airplanes. That likes SFO, or LAX wants you either. That joy ride in the Bonanza is clearly out of place. Try Hayward, and rent a car. You're putting your life at risk on using Bart. There is nothing to see in SFO, it's a broken city like most of California. We assume you like California, but does California like you?

[@harborside10]

Amen, has a ex-Airline guy I've seen SFO go from awesome to a poop-hole. It's clearly because of the way the people vote.

[@CuriositySake]

​@harborside10 how people act has more bearing.

[@inaka99]

@@harborside10 SFO is awesome. It was just ranked Best Airport in North America by Business Traveler Magazine. Turn off Fox News and stop hating on part of America to make your area feel better. We're all in this together.

[@richardpark3054]

I've been riding BART day or night for decades. The closest station is the notorious Fruitvale Station. Sometimes it's a little sketchy but I've never felt threatened.

[@michaelh8890]

While correct about mixing light GA into major air carrier airports, based on your negative comments, my guess is that you've never been to the bay area

[@telescope497]

Life in a mega blue state, living the CA "dream," uh nightmare....

[@robertalonzo5725]

👎on the music.

[@daveg8993]

Thanks for the video. Please lose the music.

[@hankhanson2534]

Boring waste of time.

[@ehbrownj]

If OAK is too expensive to land, then there's Hayward Executive Airport (HWD) right next door to Oakland

[@redondobeach7514]

Yeah, I’d go for Hayward or red Hill in San Jose

[@PetesGuide]

Why not use KSQL to get to SF? No bridges at all between them. And there’s a nifty museum on the airport grounds. Oh, that’s right, you said you wanted friendly ATC…

[@michaelhirsch4251]

Lose the music and retain the viewers

[@kyliepug753]

I'm surprised they didn't even waive 1 night parking fee w/ min fuel purchase?

[@brucegrunewald8423]

I like the music but it made the radio calls hard to hear. How about a voice over to explain what's happening instead?

[@jameswaters3939]

Gouging rents is the sole cause. The 2nd half of the 'baby-boom' (*I prefer "Atlas generation") is much poorer than the 1st half. Exorbitant costs over time have created a much less prosperous nation with the diminution of the standard of living and family. It's been happening since 1973 with some ups, but mostly downs. And now, it's entrenched blight and poor business and labor markets. Chickens done come home ta roost, doncha know.

[@jameswaters3939]

Rather was rocking out to the music and video quality and editing. Subscribing.

[@williampotter2098]

I am selecting "Don't Recommend Channel". This guys just wastes our time to make a buck.

[@CuriositySake]

Rich people problems.

[@JohnShalamskas]

Symptom of the corrupt democrat-run cities in CA.

[@ShakespeareCafe]

Save you the time, it's $459 reasons

[@mmeyers111]

Go to Hayward instead.

[@elperro5]

I hope the airport lowers their landing fees!

[@FoundingYouTuber-2005]

An otherwise interesting video RUINED by the dubbed music. I would take this down and upload it again, without the music. I think even KZbin advises not to dub YOUR favorite music into videos. If you do include music potential subscribers will flee.

[@user-xz9hu4rd2v]

I don’t go to California, it’s a dying state.

[@Jack-ne8vm]

Developers want the land?

[@CSacto]

And noise complaints from Alameda?

[@gotbordercollies]

STOP THE MUSIC!

[@hyphysteve]

As an Oaklander I say good riddance!!

[@jayzee1968]

Long winded video just to get to the point of it all.

[@brimopm]

Unfortunately that is the story for most of CA. They increase the costs just to coincide with a significant decline in desirability and attractiveness of the area. We can make all the excuses we want, but poor governance is largely to blame as areas such as where we are, (AZ), become the beneficiaries of CA's decline.

[@jlapuz7391]

Great vid! I grew up next to OAK. Most convenient airport to land at both private and commercial IMO! One thing you forgot to mention as opposed to taking Bart into the city is taking the Harbor Bay Ferry which is the best 20 min commute into SF! Literally the dock is 5-10 mins away from private landing field. Fees or not still most convenient airport!

[@norcalben2001]

If fees were important why not check before you go? Hayward Executive is just up the road and is a lot cheaper. My guess? You're just another professional California hater. You want something for nothing which means someone else pays for you. I don't own a plane, and I don't want to finance yours. You use it, you pay for it. Are the changes in San Francisco out of line with other comparable size cities? I don't think so. The wider the social inequality gap the higher the crime rate with more homeless on the streets. No one likes it but over the last 30 years Americans have chosen the economic policies responsible at the ballot box and there's no indication they want to change that.

[@JohnShalamskas]

Ballot counts are controlled by the corrupt leftists that are in power.

[@johnbusby5614]

Click bait.

[@TheUtuber999]

Please say that is a promise?

[@harborside10]

Spoken like a true Liberal !

[@BillLaBrie]

Zimbabwe-on-the-Bay

[@williampotter2098]

Like too many other KZbin clowns, your music drowns out the video, Quit trying to be Tarantino. And why the F did I just watch a 7 minute approach and landing and just THEN you begin to tell us what you are butt hurt about. You don't belong on KZbin spouting opinions wasting our time. I've flown into Oakland hundreds of times is bug smashers and jets and don't know where you are going with this but refuse to waste more time with you showing us what an auteur you are. Maybe you are just aging out of aviation.

[@sacrugby1]

Your video should only be 30 sec, terrible.

[@xflyingtiger]

Long boring video.

[@mikebryant5702]

This is a fake mislabeled video as click bait. Jerk !!