Why I'm No Longer Vegan

[@gianniclaud]

When you said that bit about your body sending you signals, and you ignoring those signals felt like you were betraying you body - I FELT that. It reminded me of that Nietzsche quote: "There's more wisdom in your body than your deepest philosophies." You have that look of wonder and curiosity in your eyes, but also seem very compassionate. Don't ever let that sparkle go away and create those boundaries when needed - now that you don't have to use your dietary restrictions (or lack thereof) as a scapegoat anymore. Thanks for sharing your journey - I very much relate to it, having developed orthorexia as a result of subscribing to the vegan ideology. And like you, much of it was to interface with trauma(s).

[@BlueNorth313]

Yeah, I once got this urge in my body to kiss this boy I liked. So I just went ahead and kissed him, out of the blue. He tried to resist, but I kept on kissing him, cause after all, my body had sent me a signal, and it was the right thing for me to do. It felt great!

[@gianniclaud]

@@BlueNorth313 Here comes the vegan police… new-age gestapo.

[@BlueNorth313]

@@gianniclaud "Oh no, someone said something I can't argue against, they're literally a nazi!!!1! How dare he challenge my ideas!!"

[@gianniclaud]

@@BlueNorth313 you said nothing new under the sun. Thanks for wasting your time trolling. Ordering some wild salmon and will enjoy it on your behalf. ^_*

[@BlueNorth313]

@@gianniclaud I didn't waste my time. Someone might read these comments and realize how irresponsible, dangerous, and downright moronic it is to let your bodily impulses take priority over ethics.

[@teganwarrior]

Do what best for you, honestly if you started to feel nauseous & lethargic then its good you stopped when you did. I was vegan for 7 years, lived with that feeling for 5 years. Didn't listen to my body and as a result I sped up my Hashimotos, develop Raynaud's disease, developed SIBO and my anxiety spiralled into depression. I did the raw thing for the first year then switched to whole foods & supplements correctly but yeah it still just didn't sit right. But yeah I can absolutely relate to the culty vibes. The amount of hate I got when the community found out. I was pubically humiliated online. Even got death threats. No compassion or anyone reach out to see if I was okay. (I got one but thats about it). Just shows how quick people are to judge.

[@BlueNorth313]

"I have no good excuses". Thanks for admitting it, that's really all I needed to hear.

[@sundragon13]

His point is that they are so angry and brainwashed and closed minded that they won't view anything as a "good reason". I literally almost died on a vegan diet, and extremist vegans still think that's not a good enough reason

[@BlueNorth313]

@@sundragon13 Nah, that's just a cop out. He just doesn't have good excuses, because there aren't good excuses. The only excuse for not being vegan is being in a survival situation where you don't have access to any other foods. This guy had a terrible diet, which happened to be plant based, and when he started feeling bad, instead of incorporating cooked foods, etc. he just decided that veganism was the problem, which is absolutely ridiculous. I've been vegan for almost 10 years. You might have had health problems while on a plant-based diet, that doesn't mean that the diet was to blame. Or maybe it was because you weren't eating properly.

[@cassclare]

Dont listen the naysayers. I was fully committed, healthy vegan and after 3 years it completely obliterated my mental and physical well being. Just be grateful you are out before your health goes down the sh*tter😂

[@じゃみっと]

I'm doing it for the animals, and I'm never going back to exploiting animals.

[@SteversChed]

@@じゃみっと There is no such thing as a healthy plants only diet for humans. Humans are scientifically classified as omnivores. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? We both know you're unable to answer this question directly and honestly.

[@BlueNorth313]

I've been vegan for almost 10 years and I'm perfectly fine. Veganism didn't obliterate your mental and physical well being, your poor choices did.

[@tinknal6449]

@@BlueNorth313 The poor choice being becoming vegan....

[@KevinLuna]

Ive seen this common in ex vegans. And what helps them the most in my experience as a nutritionist, is healing the gut so you can absrob nutrients and removing the parasites. And the other issue is convenience like you mentioned biking qith groceries on your back. I give people solution to ship foods dorectly to their door to saveoney and het high quality nutrients we need. These 3 things will fix all ex vegan issues.

[@billyflood2430]

I tried to be vegan for 5 months and my doctor literally said youre becoming anemic, you need to eat meat. I read all the books, and stuck to the vegan lifestyle and became VERY sick. The lifestyle just does not work with all body types and makeups.

[@cassclare]

Me too. I lasted 3 years and almost died. Severe anemia and depression, heart palpitations. Etc. Meat has healed me ( 9 months of recovery)

[@p.rabbitt4914]

You need to find a better doctor. Just because you didn't find a solution doesn't mean there wasn't one.

[@p.rabbitt4914]

​@@cassclareBrutality & cruelty healed you, ok.

[@SteversChed]

@@p.rabbitt4914 Why are you okay with brutality and cruelty for your own entertainment? Seems odd that you pretend to care about animals while using animal products for your entertainment.

[@asadacoehlo7964]

What brutality and cruelty? You mean like in nature? Where an animal will have a much harsher life? Never knowing if it's going to eat one day from the next, only to suffer in agony from a slow starvation death or, at best, to be mauled alive by a predator. There's no vets to care for their diseases and injuries either, so they're stuck. But hey, I guess that's so much kinder than animals who live on good farms -- vet care, shelter, regular food and protection from predators. Vegan 'compassion' strikes again. @@p.rabbitt4914

[@gamerlife2282]

You go man! So proud you realised the brainwash! Eat a lot of meat and animal fat! This is what your body needs! Ex vegan here too.I let veganism 3 years ago.One of the best decissions I've made.

[@unromanoarecareanaveragero8275]

Make your own decisions and don’t let the toxic vegan cultists bring you down.

[@じゃみっと]

Too bad you don't believe in the ability of animals making their own decisions and living their own lives unimpeded by the likes of you.

[@SteversChed]

@@じゃみっと There is no such thing as a healthy plants only diet for humans. Humans are scientifically classified as omnivores. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? We both know you're unable to answer this question directly and honestly.

[@Teo_live]

@@じゃみっと If farm animals lived unimpeded by humans they would go extinct from disease and starvation. So the vegan utopia you are desiring is both unrealistic and ironically very cruel.

[@sundragon13]

@@じゃみっと too bad that you want to make an entire species sick and deficient because you don't believe in the circle of life. What about obligate carnivores? Should they be vegan too?

[@ghhkka8984]

should I quit?

[@AnimalKingdomx1]

Yes definitely if you are not facing any health concerns.

[@BlueNorth313]

Yes, if you want animals to die for your selfish pleasures.

[@GarlandFarms]

Can we talk?

[@NoOne-uh9vu]

why does this guy look like he died 2 months ago?

[@SteversChed]

Another one bites the dust.

[@Black-Circle]

thats my saying!

[@じゃみっと]

You can now celebrate the ongoing exploitation of animals.

[@SteversChed]

@@じゃみっと Just like you since you use animal products from the same animals that normal people eat.

[@naman9sharma]

Stop portraying vegans as someone who are angry or not happy. Every activist whether it be for any cause are fighting for what they believe in and that does not mean they are not happy.If you are no longer a vegan then just talk about yourself and not bad mouth about any other community.

[@chike3485]

‘Isolation’ is a price we sometimes have to pay for being vegan. It’s just the reality. He who endures till the end shall get their reward. Stay strong and hold on to your plant based lifestyle folks…

[@tomlauris]

Sounds more like a religion.

[@chike3485]

@@tomlauris I see your point. I am not the biggest fan of religion either but a lot of the sayings in religious books make sense and tend to be true.

[@tomlauris]

@@chike3485 Also, isolation isn't good for mental health.

[@chike3485]

@@tomlauris Agreed. It can be tough. It’s just that we isolate baby cows from their moms so we can drink the milk. I really do not think it’s right to do that. Freedom fighters tend to suffer isolation from friends and families but if they remain steadfast it yields a lot of fruits eventually that benefits humanity as a whole. We may have to suffer isolation until people on a universal scale come to the understanding that we can’t continue to isolate baby cows from their mothers or grind up live male chicks in macerators. As hard as isolation can be, it’s a price we should be willing to pay. That’s why it’s also written that we should deny ourselves, carry our cross and follow…ethical veganism was never going to be an easy task…

[@BlueNorth313]

@@chike3485 Agreed! And also, we don't have to isolate ourselves. We can always find other vegans relations.

[@julianlawrence1648]

You were never vegan. You were plant-based.

[@じゃみっと]

Such nonsense coming up in my recommendations! Geez, there's no moral imperative that your food needs to be raw!! Why are all you ex-vegans coming out of something that doesn't even represent normal veganism? And if it's for your health, then what's going on at 9:18?

[@SteversChed]

There is no such thing as a healthy plants only diet for humans. Humans are scientifically classified as omnivores. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? We both know you're unable to answer this question directly and honestly.

[@haha-cm6pg]

I wish you will wake up as him and think about your health.

[@じゃみっと]

@@haha-cm6pg You didn’t read my comment, nor did you watch 9:18 of the video. Yet you come on here transparently showing your ignorance. Unless your incoherent comment is advocating for raw veganism, which, again, is not a moral imperative. The full extent of your health knowledge is showcased on your KZbin™ videos.

[@SteversChed]

@@じゃみっと As predicted, you evaded the fact based question. Thanks for proving you have no credibility.

[@じゃみっと]

@@SteversChed I don’t see the question, I doubt it was worth answering, and I don’t owe it to you to answer any of your questions. My credibility doesn’t hinge on my answers to trolls’ questions. I’m against animal exploitation. If you are in favour of animal exploitation, you might first want to prove your own credibility, and then go on to trying to justify your grotesque habits. 🌱

[@ileanakuakini5200]

🌟 'Promosm'

[@jayhoggard92]

Kudos to you for listening to your body's signs and taking action. Check out the carnivore diet for ultimate healing.

[@ecovegangeek]

Having an argument for something, is completely different to being argumentative!

[@BlueNorth313]

Exactly.

[@Black-Circle]

now regain your health and eat meat and eggs

[@PsycheandButterfly]

Just an FYI, it might be better to have called yourself plant-based over vegan. By definition, veganism is a type of ethical philosophy that you don’t generally retract after adopting unless you decide you no longer agree with that standard of animal ethics and rights. I would suggest that if that’s the case you might want to question whether your motivations and intent was ever sincere in the first place.

[@jordansmithchannel]

I am using the terms interchangeably. Maybe that's not technically correct but most people do it and I think people will understand what I meant.

[@akiikimisu8766]

@@jordansmithchannel Its very different. You wouldnt call yourself a muslim because you eat halal, so why call yourself a vegan because you eat plant-based?

[@cassclare]

Who cares what term he uses . You are being a gate keeper. Calm down. You know if someone dies from malnutrition on a vegan diet they will be depicted as no longer vegan, simply because it 'hurts the nane of veganism.' I personally only lasted 3 years vegan ( yes. Vegan I was doing it for the animals) but my health got so bad I was considering de*th. I had all the issues.. and yes I did it the right way. My male partner abd I ate exactly the same diet and he I'd totally fine. ( so far) so it shows that everyone responds differently to completely removing heme iron etc. Yes I was vegan.. I wouldn't have lasted as long as I did if I wasn't foing it for the animals. Hey why not give some credit to the people who atleast are willing to put in the effort?

[@tinknal6449]

"yOu WerE neVEr VEgAn iN tHe fiRSt PLacE". Classic vegan gaslighting and the first square on the vegan cliche Bingo card! 🤣🤣🤣

[@Assassin99584]

No true Scotsman fallacy

[@perkarmblad]

Sounds to me that you were simply not eating enough calories. Raw vegan food and juice fasts are not helping you. Eat proper cooked plant foods and make sure you eat enough calories. By eliminating animal foods you are also eliminating a lot of calories and most plant foods are simply not as calorie dense, so you need to eat more, or replace it with calorie dense plant foods. This mistake is too common among ex-vegans.

[@jordansmithchannel]

I was not hungry. If I were hungry I would have eaten more calories. I ate sufficiently for my body but it's just that I was craving foods that were not classified as vegan.

[@perkarmblad]

@@jordansmithchannel not being hungry is not the same as getting enough calories. You can get full from eating lettuce, but that will not give you nearly enough calories. And cravings does not mean you are lacking something. I sometimes crave donuts. That doesn’t mean eating donuts is good for you.

[@jordansmithchannel]

@@perkarmblad If I am full that is my body telling me I do not need more food. Are you suggesting I not listen to my own body?

[@dragan176]

​@@jordansmithchannelDo you recommend drug addicts to listen to their body? Sometimes, that's not a good thing to do. But the commenter isn't even saying that you should eat more, you just need to eat different foods

[@ghhkka8984]

@@jordansmithchannel mybe you are jist destined to eat meat.we should follow our own heart and go on our own path