Why I'm SELLING my 21" Uberturbine Wheels | 21" Uberturbine vs 20" Induction

[@DennisCW]

Which one do you like? Vote with the 👍 below!

[@teslabailey1398]

Induction news are the best holiday performance

[@DennisCW]

📈📈📈📈

[@AJmuro19]

@denniscw Hey bro I want to do what you did in swapping my uberturbines for someone’s induction wheels , where did you find someone that would trade ?????

[@nikflix8331]

Yea, you feel the bumps. That’s the whole point of performance. You want to feel the road and get that immediate feedback. I like that feeling of being connected.

[@vaddimka]

It was actually pretty jumpy, that's why they updated it with comfort suspension in 2023

[@jerryhu890]

I purchased and installed a Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 from Costco Tire Center, 275/35R21 front and 295/35ZR21 rear. It is obvious that the comfort has been improved a lot, and the bumps have been reduced by about 20%. The only downside is that when the speed exceeds 80, the hollow sound of the tires will be louder than the factory tires. But the wider contact surface brings about 4 meters less braking distance at 60 mph. After 2 weeks of about 2000 miles of actual testing, it didn't reduce my cruising range, theoretically there should be a little, but it's not obvious, I can't detect it.

[@Golfreak]

That's a hell of a deal. If I get a performance, I'd easily switch them out + cash.

[@DennisCW]

21" Uberturbines?

[@saicharansunkara8921]

Dude.. the only reason why I’m going for a MYP are those wheels. 😂 just can’t get enough of that beautiful look.. hope I don’t regret it though

[@DennisCW]

Beautful rims for sure

[@byuvar]

Beautiful wheels but ride is not as smooth as a 20". But, the best one for just the ride quality is 19". Especially Model Y doesn't have Air suspension like SX, so 19" is the best we can get out for ride quality. But, looks wise 21" is the best, although you can get a 20" wheel cap for the Gemini wheels

[@Kizaboy8]

Amen

[@JohnFatCat]

​​@@byuvar Just keep the 21" wheels and you'll have better ride quality by upgrading the front pairs of tires from 255/35 to 275/35 and the rear pairs from 275/35 to 295/35

[@Jack-nighthawk]

​@@JohnFatCat by switching the tires to front 275 and rear to 295 what is the negative? Thanks

[@nicka2256]

the rear of model Y performance with Uberturbines is actually wider in back than front and very prone to curb damage….paint is my friend

[@DennisCW]

Thanks! Yea - more of a reason why I wanted to swap 🙈

[@SuperCadillac08]

I would have stayed with the 21 even tho the ride wasn't as comfortable but that's just my opinion. Still looks good.

[@DennisCW]

I might do that next time

[@NhanNguyen-eu3my]

instead of changing the wheel, you can upgrade the tire for the Uberturbine. 275/35/21 for the rear and 275/35/21 for the front. Its much better, smoother and still look badass.

[@ibsn87]

I just changed my order from stock Gemini, to 20” induction. In Australia it’s $80,000 for RWD standard range in white with white interior ($1500) and 20” induction ($2900). So freaking expensive - but I can’t deal with the tacky silver aero hub caps and the silver Hyundai like Gemini rims. That being said there is VERY LITTLE benefit to low profile rims. Often worse ride, noise, gutter rash prone, much more expensive tires, less resistance to pot holes and often worse range. But they are sexy hahaha By contrast, I love my model 3 rims under the aero hub caps. Really nice metallic gloss, and good styling. I Can’t do the tacky Gemini for such an expensive car here. I think the 21” are a step TOO far. Hyper impractical vs looks.

[@DennisCW]

Wow - that is expensive

[@monohydrate2]

Really hope they add air suspension in the future. $70k for MYP is a lot

[@DennisCW]

That would be sickkkkk

[@plastiquemaraj8839]

They should make it an option

[@MidniteSon]

Not going to happen...the MY is basically a taller M3.

[@Boston_CremePie]

$52 brand new now plus $7500 tax credit so $45k brand new. I got a state rebate too ($2500) and a trade in for $5k. All in all $36,500 for a Brand New Black MYP 🤩

[@brylesmith1374]

19” Gemini wheels for me. Way smoother ride, peace of mind (the hubs aren’t as prone to curb rash) and didn’t need to pay extra 😃

[@DennisCW]

I feel like I need to try a set now. Do you keep the caps on or off?

[@brylesmith1374]

@@DennisCW Caps on for now, never removed them yet. Will buy the Gemini cap kit first, there are tons on Amazon. 😁

[@DevendraLattu]

@@DennisCW How is Tesla Y Performance for long drives?

[@DennisCW]

Amazing!

[@khoale3083]

Would a 19" Gemini wheels go OK on Model Y Performance?! I'm confused because Tesla says not compatible?! Thx

[@teslarex]

I drove a performance Y (maybe 22 model) I thought the ride was pretty good. Handling was great. Looks on 21s is great. I hope the brand new Performance rides even better. Planning FSD transfer.

[@longmaximo]

i have the 24 MYP, it's balance between performance and comfort for everyday driving.

[@brokeduece1691]

Bigger wheels looks nicer, but I have always preferred the smallest wheels that can fit over my brakes.

[@DennisCW]

Definitely!

[@thomasjacques5286]

I would have gone down to a 19". BTW lowering the tire pressure to 38 psi COLD really softens the ride in city use. For long trips air them back up to 42 psi. I have a new PMY on order and plan on selling the OEM 21's and replacing them with 19s from TSportLine. But I might fit them with 275s that will offer even more rim protection vs 255 on all four corners.

[@DennisCW]

Thanks for the tips! I will try that next time

[@star727798]

How’s your 19’s?

[@oscarescobedo8311]

Sooo how are the tsportline running?

[@formerpilot]

I had 20" rims and tires on my non-performance Y and thought the ride was way too harsh. I bought aftermarket 19" rims from Tsportonline and a set of 19" tires from Discount Tire and swapped them out. I then ended up selling the 20" tires and rims for $1700. I'm happy with the smoother ride, but I also agree that it only may be 30% better. The Tesla ride is very tight and you feel every flaw in the road. I intend to also purchase a new set of variable rate springs from Unplugged Performance when they are back in stock.

[@DennisCW]

Thanks for sharing. How much do you think the UP springs + install will cost you?

[@macuser48]

@@DennisCW The springs are about $400 and the install is about the same. So, a total of less than $1,000.

[@untouchable360x]

What kind of range are you getting with the Tsportline wheels?

[@formerpilot]

@@untouchable360x About the same. Hard to quantify. Negligible.

[@formerpilot]

@@untouchable360x No difference that I can tell. I can't get my car to show 316 even when at 100%. That was true with the 20" set up also.

[@Uberkeko.]

I usualy prefer smaller ones but due to the low ground clearance of Teslas, I always go for the big ones.

[@mdarks4117]

Seems like Tesla is better off sticking to the 20 inch induction with good tires

[@DennisCW]

100%

[@Gallardo6669]

Would never swapped!!! 21 looked better and way nicer rim.- Tire rotation: I financial myth to me and manufacturers try to hide their misalignment on front axle (seen with front driven cars very often, hard to get settings/wear right)

[@DennisCW]

Do you recommend an alignment early on?

[@TheMedianGam3r]

Went with the 20’’ wheels with my tesla y

[@johnnyquid-xj4kk]

Stuck to the 19 inch wheels. Works well for me.

[@DennisCW]

Nice!

[@joeywilliams604]

Taking delivery soon. I love the look if the 21s. Its what drew me in. I'm sure the ride won't be too bad for me. The test drive wasn't too harsh either. For me though.

[@DennisCW]

Congrats! What color combo did you get?

[@joeywilliams604]

@@DennisCW went red with black interior. Thought those calipers with red was good combo

[@DennisCW]

Very nice!

[@CurieBohr]

The 21s are the way to go

[@ROMTHIRTY]

Up until today, I didn't realize there were two different wheel styles. I thought they were both the same! I see the biggest difference between both is the Induction is a deeper black while the Uberturbine is more gunmetal. And the Induction has 10 spokes while the Uberturbine has 11 spokes.

[@kleycardona6435]

isn't better to get coilover suspension if you are concerned about the ride quality.. $2500...

[@DennisCW]

Tough! I have yet to ride in one with the coilovers

[@cre8view]

why didn't u just change tires

[@DennisCW]

staggered wheels

[@acespades2171]

21s look better bro

[@DennisCW]

I agree - but I can't daily drive the 21s haha

[@DennisCW]

20" Inductions

[@ronmobbs]

Excellent, relevant video & content - thanks 😉

[@DennisCW]

Thank you! How is your Tesla?

[@ronmobbs]

@@DennisCW Dunno yet, I take delivery in 3 weeks lol Agh, the anticipation!!! But it’s model y performance - hence why your video is timely 😉👍

[@GONAVYCHIEF]

We curb rashed one wheel two weeks after taking delivery. What a bummer. Cleaned it up so it's not very noticeable.

[@DennisCW]

Sorry to hear - did you touch it up?

[@nicka2256]

wider in back than front…curb rash without even trying

[@ginoj7553]

Thanks for the video. Really helpful. Did the 20" increase range by any chance?

[@DennisCW]

Not that I noticed haha

[@HB238]

What about now after long term use? Ik the 19" vs 20" induction drops range from 330 to 318. In ur case there may not be much difference because the wheel designs are so similar.

[@MarcesAurelius]

hoping Model Y “2024-25 update” provides size-choice for the new Performance model

[@jali276]

When you take the Tesla to tire store, when they lift the car to change tires do they have to use those special pucks you use when using a jack or don't need?

[@DennisCW]

A lot of them in Cali know how to handle - but I also have a set of the pucks just in case

[@jali276]

@@DennisCW okay thanks good to know I am in the Bay Area

[@macuser48]

yes

[@msurff1]

Do the new 20” wheel/tire combo cause you to chirp when you floor it? Am curious if these can handle the sudden acceleration. Wife just gave me the go ahead for the MY Performance. She’s getting the MY LR with Gemini’s. I think you have a great idea there. And more range with the acceleration seems too good to be true, lol.

[@DennisCW]

Great question! Let me try today and get back to you! :)

[@ThePKwork]

Looking to put 20” inductions on MYP for snow wheel/tire set. Have you had any issues with the 20” inductions on your MYP?

[@BlakeCheck]

The fact that you're not parking it at home is giving me anxiety lol. Is it just bc you have other cars taking up your garage space?

[@DennisCW]

Haha it’s home now - it was jus there initially 😇 But I do live downtown la 🙃

[@jubeijackson6602]

When my performance arrives in "two weeks" although I don't even have a vin yet.. I will be moving the rear tires up front then putting 295 on the rears. Should give it plenty of meat for rim protection.

[@DennisCW]

Love it

[@williamrodriguez6502]

I also have a 2022 Performance Model Y and I'm thinking of doing the same thing as you. How is the range now with the 20-inch tires? Better?

[@ricardocontreras5950]

Anyone know the name of color on the stock MYP wheels?

[@surfit34]

I absolutely love the ride of my MYP, not sure why it's so complained about. I have a 2019 Audi Q5 with 20s and I feel this rides better. I do understand why you wanted to swap, hope it works out good for you! I do plan on swapping out the PZs with some Michelin Pilot sport AS, It seems they have better protection for the rims and offer a great ride.

[@DennisCW]

Thanks for the tip - I’ll look into the Michelin’s next! What color Performance did you get?

[@surfit34]

@@DennisCW Black with white interior, love it!

[@rickeybarnes6471]

I love my y performance ride on the 21 inch compared to my 2017 Gt 350. I believe it depends what previous car you are coming from. Presently, 21600 miles in 10 months on the y performance with zero curb rash so far.

[@alwaysTTG]

The America's Tires in Artesia by the Cerritos Mall? lol Induction 20s babyyyyy

[@DennisCW]

Yup! I was there lollll

[@hadleycontractor496]

guy says LA roads just arnt the smoothest. kinda crazy that where ever people are located they say the same thing about the streets full of potholes we seem to have money for everything else tho just saying

[@DennisCW]

Paha yea - definitely by county , the road conditions vary a lot

[@gregjones1990]

Dennis - I’m trying to find all-season tires (live in WA) for my MYP. What would you recommend. 21s, 20s? I’m new and confused!

[@DennisCW]

Hi! I would recommend the 20s- unless you really like the look of the 21s

[@ebeyslough]

If you swap out the wheels do they void the warranty? Tesla people told me that is the case.

[@DennisCW]

Nope

[@one.sachin]

Does the Tesla 19" Gemini wheels fits on Model Y Performance ?

[@DennisCW]

They do!

[@89itis]

Zero Gs is the way to go

[@DennisCW]

Would love a set , not sure I’ve seen a set on a Model Y though. Have you?

[@89itis]

@@DennisCW Yeah, search for “Model Y Zero G’s” in youtube, one guy put them on his Model Y, but he mentions a few issues with those wheels as well. When I get to buy a MIG Model Y for my wife, I think I’ll get those as well, they are beautiful.

[@krnxjayxthug]

Do you still like the 20 inch or would have gone to 19 inch? I am trying to see what size wheel to go to from my 21's. I am wondering if the ride quality is that much different from 20 to 19.

[@DennisCW]

I think I would have gone to 19s now

[@jjitzu69]

@@DennisCW why is that? Any particular reason?

[@teslatech8174]

Looks great, when you changed the configuration to the 20’ induction wheel did your range increase from 303 to 326?

[@DennisCW]

Thanks! Yup - range went up to 326! Are you thinking of doing the same swap?

[@Justin-hz8bh]

Whats the range on the 19's I wonder...

[@DennisCW]

Same as 20s I thjnk

[@chowner]

Rough highways in California 🤣🤣

[@DennisCW]

Indereeeeed

[@masonlucas4796]

Is that the stock blue color? Looks good

[@phuongdao8209]

Great info! Im thinking of upgrading to 21inch. Why cant you rotate the 21 but can rotate the 20?

[@algernonwilliams3638]

They probably staggered

[@DennisCW]

21s are staggered

[@jod788]

The blk model Y was a LR I take it?

[@mjccarpenter]

Yeah very harsh ride on the 21s. I couldn't stand it coming from the Model S with 19s.

[@Justin-hz8bh]

How do you clean these wheels? Seems like they would be sensitive to harsh cleaners.

[@DennisCW]

I just spray them down at the DIY washes haha

[@AshTag]

They're the same as other rims, except tend to get more water spots, so I always wipe them down after a wash.

[@techiefit]

Can you please Link the Facebook group Tesla show room deals

[@DennisCW]

Oh sorry - they got taken down. Feel free to email me and I can connect you with my sales advisor

[@nickdiaz6737]

Bro you bouncing like crazy on those 20’s didn’t see that with the 21’s you have the performance with 21 and the also have a Range Rover and a Porsche macan and it’s not bad. People believe everything they hear.

[@136Baboulou]

Would these fit 20 inch turbine wheels on model 3 long range?

[@DennisCW]

Great question - no idea , but someone should try it. I bet they will

[@twoweeledsoto6072]

America's Tire did the swap, free? Shocked. Why would they do that? Thumbs up.

[@DennisCW]

Buyer paid

[@tiffany860815]

Hey Dennis I am now waiting for my MYP, and thinking to do the same wheel/tire swap. Can you share the link of the Facebook group? Thank you!

[@DennisCW]

Hi! Model Y SoCal! Or Tesla Socal

[@tiffany860815]

@@DennisCW thank you Dannis!

[@gabbiosis]

At 80-90 miles speeds on highways is it normal for the steering to feel a bit vibrating?

[@DennisCW]

Nope - that is not normal - I believe your foam has separated. I had the same issue kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmG5c4ujhdyNraM

[@gabbiosis]

@@DennisCW wow thanks for this.. my vibration is coming from the front.. but i changed the steering to comfort and i don't feel it as much.. but I've scheduled a service appointment for balancing and alignment

[@gabbiosis]

@@DennisCW but I'll ask them to look into the foam separation issue too..

[@4CUTTY1BARZ5]

Did the guy swapping the rims have a model y long range or was his performance also? I have a 2022 model y long range but I want the 21” so bad. I read on the Tesla App Store it’s not suppose to fit the long range but I don’t see why not

[@DennisCW]

His was a long range! Are you in SoCal?

[@4CUTTY1BARZ5]

@@DennisCWnice! Glad to hear that. Do you know if it worked out fine on his ride? Now I definitely need to get some. I’m in Nor Cal Bay Area.

[@teddys748]

@@4CUTTY1BARZ5 Im in socal with 21” how many miles do u have on ur induction?

[@4CUTTY1BARZ5]

@@teddys748 nice. I just hit 8k miles on it.

[@4CUTTY1BARZ5]

@@teddys748 did you not like your 21”?

[@jonathanr1509]

Any update on these? Are you still happy you swapped or do you see Ubers occasionally and wish you had them back?

[@DennisCW]

100% Happy - I just rotated them! Much smoother ride. I also just convinced my other friend with a MYP to do the same lol

[@jonathanr1509]

@@DennisCW Thanks for the great video and the reply! Look forward to some more great content, keep it up!

[@edmarsalas1925]

Hello dennis do u know anybody that has 21 inch and willing to trade? I wanna trade my 20 inch with some cash.

[@drkalvet]

@@edmarsalas1925yes I do

[@ltr310]

Will the 19” Gemini’s fit the performance Y w the bigger brakes?

[@DennisCW]

From all my research , yes it should fit. Are you going to try?

[@ltr310]

Ya I’ll prob try it now! Thx!

[@DennisCW]

Good luck!

[@freezin48]

The performance calipers on the front are too big and the geminis will not fit!

[@Joker-fx6mh]

Seeing them in person was a disappointment. They aren't black, more like a dark gray, the 20 inch are more darker which I love. I really wish I could order with the 20s because I got my wife a long range model y with the 20s and white paint. Looks amazing and I would love the same thing but wife doesn't want two of the same car. So I was hoping to get the performance in white but the 21 inch doesn't appeal to me at all.

[@DennisCW]

Agreed! And to most others , they look very similar

[@bimmerM3]

the 19 inch ride pretty bad

[@rayperez1754]

20’ you still feel every bump

[@georgebelanger]

When you say "Ceramic" what are you going to buy?

[@DennisCW]

Ceramic coating

[@marramgg]

Cool video. Maybe mount your cam next time instead of holding it the whole ride. That doesn’t seem very safe for you or others you share the road with. Also you might set the example to your viewers.

[@DennisCW]

Thanks! I am 90% of the time in Autopilot :)

[@marramgg]

@@DennisCW ah that makes more sense 😅 Not sure I’ll get it since FSD beta might not be available where I live. Enjoy and drive safe.

[@jimfergusondev]

Is there a good tesla club in Irvine/LH?

[@DennisCW]

Facebook groups!

[@wichion]

i heard many said 21 rides better than 20.

[@DennisCW]

waaaa

[@AceMarcusWorld2]

21”

[@AttomOshima]

Wow!

[@DennisCW]

😇😇

[@MeatChop24]

So after a month of trading the 21s for 20s, how does the ride feel and what is your mileage average at now?

[@DennisCW]

Haven’t really noticed a diff in mileage . It’s comfier but the Model Y is still pretty bumpy in comparison to other sized suvs.

[@MeatChop24]

@@DennisCW I think it would be a great idea if you did a video about the mileage you're getting with the inductions now. I'm sure plenty of MYP owners such as myself would like to switch the uberturbines for inductions just like you.

[@HB238]

You ever think of getting a suspension upgrade? I personally looked into coilovers but never did anything.

[@alexpogi8874]

Wass up Dennis. Can i get your referral name? Thanks

[@DennisCW]

Referral link? Or my referral at Tesla that can hook it up haha Send me an email - my email is on my about page or DM me off IG

[@alexpogi8874]

@@DennisCW i mean referral code. We bout to order our tesla thats why.

[@DennisCW]

Oh snap , thanks! ts.la/dennis45178 or dennis45178

[@officialjeremiahrussell]

Can I buy em?

[@DennisCW]

Trade / sold them already!

[@officialjeremiahrussell]

@@DennisCW ohh ok thank you lol!

[@CurieBohr]

You drive way to fast in residential neighborhoods.

[@DennisCW]

Ouf

[@j0404t]

Hey Dennis - how are you wheels holding up? I am getting a MYP and worry If I lower wheel size to 20 inch would that lower the car on an already low ground clearance? Is that a concern? Any issues with the car sitting so low?

[@DennisCW]

Hey, sold the MY haha

[@j0404t]

@@DennisCW Whaat?? I am disappointed in you Dennis. UNSUB!

[@rdk3996]

Car pool lane :)

[@DennisCW]

Yes

[@supersingular]

Bad idea.

[@DennisCW]

How so?

[@supersingular]

@@DennisCW Tesla never designs anything about their cars by accident or looks. Performance models have a drastically different electromechanical system specifically tuned for those 21” wheels.

[@DennisCW]

Oh?

[@grumpysteelman]

@@supersingular - nope. 👎🏻 You can literally take it to Tesla to change the wheel programming and the range goes up and shows the other wheels on the on-screen avatar with no other issues or drawbacks. Now help society by playing in traffic blindfolded with your baseless broscience. 😂

[@supersingular]

@@grumpysteelman tell me something. Why do you have to be offensive? I don’t understand where all the hatred comes from. And if you tell me that engineers only take range in consideration when designing the wheels of a car, you must be joking.

[@xinhongluo2287]

Baker Ranch haha

[@DennisCW]

yes yes hahah

[@aardvarkansaw]

This is about putting 19 inch wheels on a Model Y Performance: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKewomapg9iLg9U

[@DennisCW]

Oh snap

[@vl2852]

The rims do not look the same. I can tell right away the difference in size.

[@DennisCW]

you can?

[@DellMitchell-c2c]

Can I put 21” uberturbine wheels on my LR model Y?

[@DennisCW]

yes

[@AJmuro19]

Hey bro I want to do what you did in swapping my uberturbines for someone’s induction wheels , where did you find someone that would trade ?????

[@DennisCW]

Try Facebook Groups!

[@Brandon-sr2bl]

I have MYP and would love to see how going from 21” to 20” inch improves efficiency.

[@VuongNguyen-tc4fj]

I have 21” Michelin tires no issues at all…..all about tires

[@RandomDayProd]

Any noticeable difference in the range between the two?

[@DennisCW]

No noticeable difference