I agree with point 3 especially! The bunch! The adrenaline! Pro cyclists are absolutely bonkers- I’m not going to be shrugging shoulders in a pack when I know there’s a possibility of someone crashing and getting injured. The sweet spot is absolutely working, earning good money and getting to ride your bike, leisurely or in races and you have that. Love it - honestly can’t ask for more
@lloydhlavac68072 жыл бұрын
I was an amateur racer in the US for over 25 years, and I can really identify with your reasons for not turning pro, especially as my racing style practically mirrors yours. I was several times TT champ of the state of Florida, but my climbing was so-so, and I was a horrible sprinter. And yeah, being in the middle of a 100+ rider pack made me a little bit nervous, not thrilled, especially if the race ended in a crazy pack sprint. And I did get to race on a few occasions against guys who had been in the TdF. But I was never good enough to be a pro racer.
@drjimslearninghub91912 жыл бұрын
You're too smart Jesse. That time you pulled across the long gap to the breakaway in the Herald Sun tour. That was epic.
@jwit76 Жыл бұрын
Well done man, very honest and extremely humble approach to the subject matter. You are obviously an incredible athlete and have much wisdom to share.
@Openwheelappreciation2 жыл бұрын
I like how you have spread some light on the pro scene and how it isn’t all that glamorous as it looks on the tv. Personally, my biggest aspirations at the moment is to go Continental, and that’s my big future goal, but I also have the same thing about not ‘wanting’ to go pro. I have thought about it a lot, and if the opportunity ever presented itself, but I am content to race at a conti level (with some Asian racing involved) and to be working on the side for my income.
@nicholi12462 жыл бұрын
Great video👌 I asked mainly because you mentioned some of your teammates went pro and you even race with world tour teams, so I figured the potential was there. Personally I wouldn’t want to be a pro either
@GS-pk9rd2 жыл бұрын
Interesting and honest perspective about what it takes to go pro. You probably do have the strength and fitness - or could get there - but being prepared to crash and risk it all, and endure mentally is another matter entirely for most folk. We've seen examples of pros speaking out about this recently like Kennaugh, Dumoulin, Almeida just recently
@benjaminpegard65042 жыл бұрын
Great video Jesse ! Nice insight of your thinking around cycling at a high level without sacrificing everything
@grey_fox72 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this video. Appreciated the honest take on your abilities and limitations.
@MichaelThorne_za Жыл бұрын
Kudos for sharing this video. Huge respect. 👏 You're a pro gentleman.
@rambojonj18382 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid. Youre still the top 3 of my local climb ,Brooklyn. Cant believe how fast you guys motor up there 🇦🇺💪👊
@neemmachine2 жыл бұрын
A very interesting video. I would be super keen to get to hear some of the stories about your big stage wins/team results or your journey from beginner cyclist to the level you are at!
@christiangaya47302 жыл бұрын
Maybe do a video on what it takes to get to the NRS! would be really interesting and i bet there's people watching your channel with those aspirations.
@jarrodfife2422 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I would love to make it to the NRS in a few years. I’m a bit older 23 but love riding and do it 12 hours avg a week throughout the year.
@GunsG572 жыл бұрын
Video idea: - Current Aussies you think have the engine to go pro. - Current Aussies you think WILL go pro. - Worst calves in the NRS.
@melbman432 жыл бұрын
Think you've sumed that all up Jesse, I've been around the Melbourne cycling scene for a while and have herd of many riders who have raced in Europe and everything you said so did they.
@marcusestlin56312 жыл бұрын
Honest, insightful and well structured video. Keep up the great content and vid's Jesse.
@albertkikstra3 ай бұрын
Absolutely! There’s literally hundreds,if not, thousands of riders trying to get a pro contract with wattages equal to pro level but there’s only a few hundred spaces available..it’s not a great life.
@user-ow1jh8yb5j2 жыл бұрын
Not a name drop at all - respect for those experiences and the hard work to get there. Done a couple of races with pro conti and conti races in and some great experiences just to race with them
@stevew1582 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos, lots of great information presented in a easy to understand format. Thanks
@jamesgreene19792 жыл бұрын
Jesse, saw you in Chris’s videos of course but just stumbled across your own channel this morning. I’ve watched a few videos, I’ve subscribed, and I’m loving the content man. Look forward to watching loads more.
@nerocoaching2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man ✌️
@Masteroiece Жыл бұрын
Lots of respect. Some times we are just not that good enough and it’s ok. Just keep training hard and enjoy the riding
@trevorduncan96352 жыл бұрын
you nailed the reply. Seems what your doing sound more balanced and rewarding - best of both worlds. makes sense.
@hamishosborne87402 жыл бұрын
You’re a pro in my heart ❤️ Great vid. Really loving the content you’re putting out! Keep it up!
@petercummins10976 ай бұрын
I used to race and train with Rob's father, Steve when we were members of Norths.. Doing hill reps up Bobbo with him was a f*cking horrible experience. Stupidly strong rider.
@jamessingleton48562 жыл бұрын
Brilliant and very honest video!
@wendysuperfan10142 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jesse! Love watching you in the NRS Jesse. Do what you love, love what you do!!
@yeahnahyeahnah21608 ай бұрын
Big respect for making this. Thanks for sharing
@vernefits1953 Жыл бұрын
Great content
@ironbuttcycling1462 жыл бұрын
Wow you raced here on Philippines. I hope you will comeback here soon
@nerocoaching2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I loved it. Crazy roads and very hot. I hope to go back and race as well
@ilgour2 жыл бұрын
Great video, love the perspective your giving.
@pauljakeman2 жыл бұрын
This was a really great video buddy, I think you have the better deal in a way as you get to pick and choose more of what and when you want to race, must be less stressful in a way. And congrats on your wins.
@billszymanski48446 ай бұрын
wonderfully honest and candid.
@BobMcAllan2 жыл бұрын
Most racers just want to race for the endorphins. Bikes, tech, shaving, carbon, training, ftp, racing, pro, conti, junior or masters are all parts of the world of a racer. Keep up the vids.. hope there are plans for NERO NO-PRO teams starting all over AUS.
@whitm88237 ай бұрын
Love to hear this kind of story! If you don’t mind sharing, what job do you currently have that allows you to train so much?
@out_spocken Жыл бұрын
love the open honest vid Jesse. Appreciate the no pretence persona and attitude you have. Say it as it is, don't apologise for who you are or pretend to be something you aren't. Question I have...IF..IF you got given a pro contract..and you had to at least do 1 year (so no pop in for a GT and thats it) would you do it?
@1Qko Жыл бұрын
Subscribing after watching this video, very honest explanation.
@Peter-wg1ri2 жыл бұрын
Really glad I found this channel.
@philfortner1805 Жыл бұрын
The hard work as a pro is living like a monk, eating only for the training, training, resting, and doing that in any weather, anywhere.
@dutchgus5 күн бұрын
This was a great video
@BrettKelly742 жыл бұрын
Love the honesty, so refreshing.
@wastrey1232 жыл бұрын
great video! loved the insight!
@benglover60192 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that Caleb's won at heffron and so have you, theres still hope !!!! Although I think Caleb was about 15 racing and winning A Grade
@swites2 жыл бұрын
I felt like I made it racing for a local masters team in NZ lol. Honestly its hard winning a B grade club race for most of us. In NZ to go pro you either need to win an Olympic medal on the track and get selected as a work horse, or head over to Belgium and win quite a bit. Get in some good European teams get noticed, get lucky and end up in the World Tour. Or just be an absolute freak and be able to ride 6W/kg for over 30mins!
@czeckson742 жыл бұрын
really honest statement - greetings from Austria
@davidmckieyt2 жыл бұрын
Loved this. All your videos are great. Thanks heaps.
@joshkwan2 жыл бұрын
Great insight, interesting video
@RudiDwiHartanto2 жыл бұрын
in Indonesia outside of the national team its actually a pretty hard life if you wanna race your bike full time.
@maguilecutty2 жыл бұрын
One thing you eluded to but really isn't understood is that the level in AUS/NZ and even the US is just not what it is here in Europe. Being and Aussie who races in Germany, lives in Girona during winter and races sometimes here, the racing is literally 1 level above back home. Our Cat 3 in Germany is often harder than A grade races in Melbourne for eg...I know so many guys who came from top level NRS to race in the Amateur races in France, Belgium and the Netherlands and just got smashed...
@MikeStarr1000 Жыл бұрын
honesty was refreshing
@wubble6662 жыл бұрын
As you pointed out getting noticed is almost impossible in Australia. We just need to accept that when it comes down to it the NRS is really just a level above Club level racing when you compare to what is seen in Europe where most clubs have a Continental level team and you have a full season of racing for Continental and Pro Continental level teams.
@nerocoaching2 жыл бұрын
I don't totally agree on this. It is definitely difficult to get noticed, but the top level of NRS racing is very high quality. Certainly not just a step up from club level. We see every year the top riders in the NRS are competitive internationally. There is definitely less depth compared to Europe, but a consistently good top rider (lets say top 5) in the NRS is usually good enough to go pro. Issue is they probably won't because its difficult to get exposure.
@wubble6662 жыл бұрын
@@nerocoaching While there are riders that are good enough my problem is that the racing is not there. In truth how many races held across Australia would even rate as comparable to a Continental level in Europe.
@hunters64110 ай бұрын
Bravo, lots of integrity
@adamsims64902 жыл бұрын
Good vid. Nice to hear your perspective.
@Kanonka282 жыл бұрын
DURIANRIDer is a fantastic pro.
@marcuscheung50252 жыл бұрын
sugar
@alanbell18219 ай бұрын
Hi. 56 yrs ftp 200 trying to get to 250. Been zwifting solid for 1 yr so probably had initial surge is 250 doable for age 60 ,giving myself 4 yrs 5 ft 10. 12 stones
@zwtvchannel2 жыл бұрын
“Not give any fucks and just send it” 😂😂😂 good insight mate
@skylasung3539Ай бұрын
Great point about the money.
@cliffcox76432 жыл бұрын
Ive been training my ass off, but can't seem to improve over last 5 months ago.
@adriankite88492 жыл бұрын
Love the content, good insight 🙂👍
@stianpollestad754 Жыл бұрын
Not only do the pros have to race in shitty weather, they also have to train in it. You have to do the miles no matter what the conditions are like sometimes.
@collectivesartori2 жыл бұрын
Nice honesty 👍
@marcuskoh21722 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your "realness"
@iimmolarious76362 жыл бұрын
Funny to see you use a picture from de ronde van rhoon, the crit in my hometown. I raced that day as well.
@nerocoaching2 жыл бұрын
Small world! We had a great time over there, you've got access to some great riding and racing
@iimmolarious76362 жыл бұрын
@@nerocoaching We sure are blessed with so many races in the area. If I want to I could race 5+ days a week without having to drive more than an hour to a race. The Netherlands is a great place to live as a cyclist. It's good to hear you had a great time here, its alot of work to organise these crits with finding sponsors, permits for blocking the road etc.
@bernardinfeld12822 жыл бұрын
Thank you for giving some perspective to professional bike racing to the rest of us mere mortals. Love your channel
@mr.gewehr98622 жыл бұрын
Great info.
@Sills712 жыл бұрын
If you are not at or near the very top, there is very little reason to be a pro. If you can't win races and make a ton of money, why bother?
@jezhopo72212 жыл бұрын
You forgot to name drop chris; pro masters rider
@ryandorris71442 жыл бұрын
Nailed it
@brunospasta Жыл бұрын
I am surprised that you would say most uci conti teams do not have salaries. In Europe pretty much every conti riders gets sth, some even do it full time.
@aedsy2 жыл бұрын
Very honest!
@PlexusTen2 жыл бұрын
nice video!
@Richz22 жыл бұрын
Hardest job in sport... unless you are the top 0.5- 1% there isn't much job security and it's a short career. once it's over... then what?.What you are doing at the moment seems to being you happiness and satisfaction....
@sydfin2 жыл бұрын
Great video mate, have seen you in action and in my opinion you have made it. Your not pro because you don’t need to be.
@TheMASDrummer2 жыл бұрын
Did you get rekt in Belgium
@irl-cyclist012 жыл бұрын
Good points, also to add you don't have any career post cycling. So say to finish at 35. You're income will be working at a bike shop without education.
@davidnsquires2 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that one of your reasons wasn't about having to dope if you were to go pro. I personally like to believe that the sport is much cleaner these days, but it wasn't that long ago where you'd have to factor in that decision if you wanted to make the step up. Clearly pro cycling isn't a happy place these days. The modern training methods are not "fun" for many it seems, vs the old style of long slow training rides and getting race fitness in races. The pressures within team roles also seem higher than ever. Add in the constant fight to earn a new contract, teams folding every year and it is obvious why a normal job with some racing on the side can be rather appealing.
@matejburian31912 жыл бұрын
Sometimes when We look at things racionally they do not make any sense at all, but we still doin them, I think being Pro athlete is more of status and that "achievement" feeling more than anything else, It's just ridicolously hard challenge that some individuals are seeking in their lives and I completely understand that
@rambojonj18382 жыл бұрын
Dreaamer
@rothaicc Жыл бұрын
It's funny would people ask the same stuff of their mates who play soccer and train at amateur's level.
@Tomisdebomtom2 жыл бұрын
But do you use GoPro?
@williambardsley7540 Жыл бұрын
I think most people see Podgcar making 6m euros a year and think racing bikes is glamorous. Most even tour cyclists are making around 25k euros every 6mths and having to fight for their life in the peloton everyday while slogging away 25+hrs a week on the bike and likely having to go through contract renegotiations all the time because they probably are not winning races, on top of everything you said about staying in shit hotels and living out of a bag away from your family. Then you can just crash your bike one time and you are completely done.
@FitnessSynthesis2 жыл бұрын
What is your full time work. It seems we are the same
@nerocoaching2 жыл бұрын
Cycling coach
@donwinston2 жыл бұрын
Seems to me that Australians are amazing at cycling, and many other sports for that matter.
@rambojonj18382 жыл бұрын
Yep , we are. All round legends. Per capita smash every other country by far. 🇦🇺💪👊
@S.Prestage2 жыл бұрын
you're a great youtuber m8
@nerocoaching2 жыл бұрын
Thanks lord
@adamsims64902 жыл бұрын
I think you are being a bit modest. I’d say that you are more than talented enough to be pro. But the essential ingredient is that ‘want’ and a pretty big ego. Because as you say it’s not like most do it for the money.
@nerocoaching2 жыл бұрын
I guess "pro" in the sense of being good enough to fill a spot on a Pro Conti team yes, but talented/strong enough to get results at that level or above, I really don't think so. There is a ginormous gap between pack fill, and results
@faizjimjali80312 жыл бұрын
Would you go for rim or disc?
@nerocoaching2 жыл бұрын
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@Kanonka282 жыл бұрын
whats your VO2MAX ?
@nerocoaching2 жыл бұрын
Haven't had it tested for cycling
@Kanonka282 жыл бұрын
@@nerocoaching and for running?
@jovencanumay90352 жыл бұрын
yeah you don't need to be a pro to enjoy cycling right :)
@justinbloomer2 жыл бұрын
What if you were Tadej Pogacar?
@nerocoaching2 жыл бұрын
Then I'd have won the Tour de France twice
@scottf34562 жыл бұрын
@@nerocoaching lol
@careymahoney16052 жыл бұрын
He's no where near Pogacars level ...lol !
@justinbloomer2 жыл бұрын
@@careymahoney1605 nobody is near Pogacar's level 😁
@ruiteixeira15942 жыл бұрын
Riding in continental level, is where you compete crapy races, nor pro or worldtour.
@Yoda-em5mt Жыл бұрын
Hey Jesse totally get it i,m old now raced pro mtb before you were born ha ha , totally aggree all good racers are nutts , i kinda miss the aggro of pushing and shoving in racing and yelling abuse ha ha , the one thing i really hated about being a pro rider was having to lie about shit bikes and shit products . The real truth is there are some really really good riders that just dont want to race and in fact are better than the pro racers , the other point is you need to be an arse kisser to be a pro anything companies dont like the truth . I still love riding more than ever and would never want to ride pro again . Cheers mate look forward to more vids .