Why I No Longer Believe In The Quran

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Beyond The Quran

Beyond The Quran

Күн бұрын

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@RedditAITA8
@RedditAITA8 Күн бұрын
Hey, man just here to say please ignore these violent haters. You can do whatever you want. Im an ex muslim too. Hats off to you. Take care
@Varkhal218
@Varkhal218 Күн бұрын
Do not let other people shame or intimidate or scare you into pretending to believe in things you don't believe or question your right and your freedom to believe or not, to practice or not. Nothing but the best to you.
@TheGodlessMorality
@TheGodlessMorality Күн бұрын
I just want to say how much I admire your courage. It’s not easy to question deeply held beliefs, let alone step away from them, especially knowing the backlash you’d face. Don’t let the haters get to you. What you’ve done is incredibly brave, and it shows real strength of character. Wishing you all the best on this new chapter of your journey!
@anipit
@anipit Күн бұрын
My parents are Palestinian and im an ex-Muslim ! Leaving Islam is the best thing I’ve done in my life !
@rdsyafriyar
@rdsyafriyar 6 сағат бұрын
Waleed al-Husseini was one prominent example of a Palestinian ex-Muslim. He was arrested back in 2010 by the Palestinian Authority over reports of alleged blasphemy on FB and that nowadays he resides in France.
@EveningStarRose
@EveningStarRose Күн бұрын
You're welcome to join r/exmuslim. As an ex-Muslim, my problem is with twisting verses to prove "miracles", some of which was already known before Islam. The turning point for me was Muhammad's questionable character
@TheExplorer-e1j
@TheExplorer-e1j 3 сағат бұрын
Questionable character according to who?
@eidsayed6048
@eidsayed6048 Күн бұрын
I abandoned Islam after years of devotion, having memorized the Quran and avoided prohibited activities like music and uncovered hair. Now, I pursue happiness, harming none, while believing in a higher power that judges my actions. Despite this, memories of death and hell in Islam still linger. I want people to know I didn't leave Islam out of hatred or rebellion, but because I disbelieve its divine claim.
@coconut_isntgood5684
@coconut_isntgood5684 Күн бұрын
It is very difficult to see the wrongs in religion so congrats for being able to think critically. I hope you're okay now and please ignore those hatefu comments :)
@EmilyBukhari
@EmilyBukhari Күн бұрын
I had similar issues when reading the Quran and have since abandoned all faith in any religion (because religion is man-made). Not even saying there’s no god but it’s a personal thing, and trying to separate ourselves into “religions” and “sects” who insist their way is the absolute right path and there is absolutely no way anything else could be right, just creates distance and extremism and lack of tolerance. Best of luck in your spiritual journey.
@fezii9043
@fezii9043 Күн бұрын
Congratulations on leaving Islam! I'm an ex-muslim myself and I know how hard it must be for you to take such a big step. You're doing a good thing, stay safe, stay sane, and welcome to the club!
@jinxx2528
@jinxx2528 Күн бұрын
Fellow British ex-Muslim here. I think there’s so much false narrative about ex-Muslims and it’s really good to hear people who have a similar experience to me. I truly believed, and tried to do my best by Islam and when I realised that it wasn’t the truth, it wasn’t because I wanted to sin, or life is easier if I can do what I want. I have no hate towards Islam
@iamAuGur
@iamAuGur 2 күн бұрын
That's what real and honest people do, apologize for things they thought it was right👍 much appreciated man!
@SignoraMariposa
@SignoraMariposa Күн бұрын
wow, thanks for this. you might have changed my perspective
@magallanesagustin4952
@magallanesagustin4952 Күн бұрын
Congrats, man! Your bravery is worthy of respect.
@SaraTansey
@SaraTansey Күн бұрын
Hey - just wanted to say there is a subreddit for ex Muslims and it’s a very supportive group if you’re interested :) Hope you don’t let the negative comments get to you
@Noodlyk18
@Noodlyk18 3 күн бұрын
Join the club my dude. Realized that a decade ago, the more distance from it I get, the more issues I see. Props to you for thinking critically and not relying on blind faith. Keep doing more research, the fact there is an inherent fear of punishment when you question makes people unable to be honest with themselves. I guarantee there are no satisfying answers once you start asking questions.
@iDirtyDianaX
@iDirtyDianaX Күн бұрын
You made the right call leaving this hateful cult, I wish you the very best on your new journey ❤ don't let the haters stop you from being free
@newguyat77
@newguyat77 15 сағат бұрын
Muslims read the quran, ex-muslims understand the Qur'an
@M1chel4ngelo
@M1chel4ngelo Күн бұрын
I know you're going through a very difficult time in your life. Abandoning such deeply held beliefs is never easy. Be kind to yourself. I would just like to say, congratulations on seeing the truth and not lying to yourself. And welcome to the club 💜
@neallarkariz
@neallarkariz 5 күн бұрын
I am in your position right now, questioning a lot of thing. still believe in God, but I believe God doesn't need ideology/religion.
@FarisKing-sl3qn
@FarisKing-sl3qn 4 күн бұрын
Boom, Deism
@neallarkariz
@neallarkariz 4 күн бұрын
@@FarisKing-sl3qn pretty much yea
@AmicableAgnostic
@AmicableAgnostic 3 күн бұрын
Exactly. Definitely not I5lam even if there is some so called religion.
@Ihatemomo
@Ihatemomo Күн бұрын
Ever considered Christianity? I am a born salafi who was praying at the mosque 5 times a day. I left Islam and now am a Roman Catholic
@npon
@npon Күн бұрын
Well done!
@ye-zr4fi
@ye-zr4fi 52 минут бұрын
That's nice to hear, hopefully you feel better now
@amateur_football9751
@amateur_football9751 Күн бұрын
Dude, don't let the hatters get to you!! tons of us support you and recognize you are very brave!!
@WatcherofVideosSometimes
@WatcherofVideosSometimes Күн бұрын
Congrats on developing common sense!!! 👏
@ApostateAIaddin
@ApostateAIaddin 3 күн бұрын
Welcome to the Club ;)
@wuxr
@wuxr Күн бұрын
Leaving Islam is a brave step, especially considering the oppressive nature of the religion towards questioning and individuality. As an ex-Muslim Arab, I know the weight of breaking free from its restrictions and dogma. However, be cautious, as apostasy can provoke dangerous reactions from some Muslims who feel justified in harming those who leave the faith. Stay strong, and prioritize your safety-you’re not alone in rejecting a belief system that thrives on control and fear. ❤
@TheTruth-x4t
@TheTruth-x4t Күн бұрын
TAK-BEER 🍺
@atreeineden
@atreeineden Күн бұрын
I'm proud of you and I admire your courage. Tbh I couldn't say If I were in that situation I would stand to get all this hate comments. So I came here to make a positive one. I know it's hard as an ex-muslim, even though I couldn't explain it to my environment for some safety. I hope one day we all can explain the world that we're doing what "peaceful" to us
@dilyanageorgieva5612
@dilyanageorgieva5612 18 сағат бұрын
Congratulations for breaking out of this and actually questioning Islam and I thing it’s amazing and brave to share your opinion on it, please keep doing it and I hope you’re well and safe ❤️
@kongziarusu8518
@kongziarusu8518 Күн бұрын
Just found out about this channel. Good on you for trying to clear up any past errors you might have spread. A very clear video, much clearer than the Quran!😂
@ruse4747
@ruse4747 Күн бұрын
As an ex-Muslim, you didn't say anything misleading; everything you presented in the past video was supported by evidence. Take care bro Much love from Saudi Arabia. 🇸🇦❤
@sgtlaugh
@sgtlaugh 9 сағат бұрын
Your videos, presentation, courage, and personality, all of them are so wonderful. Keep up the great work!
@lizapooks
@lizapooks 2 сағат бұрын
im so proud of u
@Wolverine-rp9ed
@Wolverine-rp9ed Күн бұрын
Congratulations on finding clarity ❤️
@bohfurthermore
@bohfurthermore 15 сағат бұрын
Sending love. I know it’s very hard. But we can do it ❤
@Oyogitsune
@Oyogitsune Күн бұрын
Not gonna lie choosing to become an ex Muslim after many years of being a Muslim and criticising other religions takes a lot to do. Congrats 🥳
@tigimer_0393
@tigimer_0393 Күн бұрын
Here to show my support! I respect you a BUNCH for your courage and bravery. I see a lot of comments saying that leaving the religion itself is brave, but something that no one is talking about is leaving the religion when you're a KZbinr who had a KZbin channel dedicated to Islam is just a WHOLE OTHER LEVEL of bravery that needs to be appreciated (knowing that you have a whole community of believers and yet, you still had the courage to outwardly speak about leaving, knowing that you could get hate for it. I admire you for that, and you have inspired me and I'm sure that I'm not the only one feeling that way.) You are amazing, and we support you. Please don't let the haters get to you. If backlash gets too hard, please try to remember our comments and remind yourself that you do truly have a WHOLE community who are on your side!
@ieattwiceaday4116
@ieattwiceaday4116 16 сағат бұрын
fellow british ex muslim here, congrats on leaving! dropped a like for you, dont mind the haters!
@TheDutchGuyOnYT
@TheDutchGuyOnYT 8 сағат бұрын
Welcome back ❤
@envy2287
@envy2287 Күн бұрын
Congratulations for leaving from a fellow exmuslim, join us at the exmuslim subreddit
@HazurStudios
@HazurStudios 14 сағат бұрын
Absolute Chad for leaving that false ☪️ult. Finally ur eyes opened. Well done!
@Yassar200
@Yassar200 21 сағат бұрын
An Arab ex-muslim was here. Thank you very much for the efforts you make and congratulations 🎉
@chr_my
@chr_my 2 күн бұрын
Everyone makes mistakes, and taqiyya is used quite often. I like TMA, he's done some cool videos you can find in my about. Please stay safe man, thanks for the video.
@greypsyche5255
@greypsyche5255 Күн бұрын
"Taqiyya" is a Shia thing. 90% of Muslims are Sunni.
@chr_my
@chr_my Күн бұрын
@@greypsyche5255 Whose thing is tawriya, muruna, kitman, muda'rat, hiyal, 'we smile at their faces while we hate them in our hearts', 'speaking is a means to achieve objectives', 'war is deceit', 'you can lie to your wife'? Who lied that 'it is written in the Quran that who kills one man it is like he killed the whole of humanity' and never quoted the full verse (Q5-32, ... FOR THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL that whoever takes a life-UNLESS AS A PUNISHMENT FOR MURDER OR MISCHIEF IN THE LAND-it will be as if they killed all of humanity ...) nor the following, related verse Q5-33 ('Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and spread mischief in the land is death, crucifixion, cutting off their hands and feet on opposite sides, or exile from the land. This penalty is a disgrace for them in this world, and they will suffer a tremendous punishment in the Hereafter.')? Shia Muslims only? Whose Quran has Allah deceiving Christians (Q4-157) and making us believe that Jesus was crucified 'but We just made it to appear so'? Who lied that 'there is only one Quran, miraculously preserved', then when we showed several different ones there was first 'oh, it's just different pronunciations', then when we showed different words in different Qurans meaning different things there came 'standard narrative has holes n it' (Yasir Qadhi) and 'it's 99% the same'? Just google ANY of these things then research them further.
@DarthwRath
@DarthwRath 20 сағат бұрын
​@@greypsyche5255 the sunnis will use taqiyya against the shias if needed. Blatantly lying and being dishonest to further promote islam is done by all Muslims. The word itself isn't the important bit.
@Dawn-Chaudry
@Dawn-Chaudry Күн бұрын
You're amazing keep going! You're videos have helped me understand more hat leaving Islam is the right choice for me!
@sewaligoswami781
@sewaligoswami781 7 сағат бұрын
Stay safe brother 🎉 🙏best wishes 🙏
@jojboy
@jojboy 5 күн бұрын
Brother, with all due respect, I feel that deleting the videos might be a bit of a waste. I don't believe they're misleading; they give people the opportunity to form their own opinions and do their own research. In the past, you've made some excellent points, and even now, your insights are valuable. While I may differ with you on certain aspects, I deeply appreciate everything you've shared. For a long time, I felt quite alone in my beliefs and my perspective on life. Finding your content was a turning point for me-it truly opened my eyes and felt more acceptance. You brought a fresh light to Islam, fostering openness and acceptance. That had a profound impact on me, and honestly, it laid the foundation for what I believe today. Please, don’t carry too much of a burden on your shoulders. You’re a wonderful human being. Whether your words were right or wrong, you’ve undoubtedly helped people find clarity in their lives. For that, I can only say thank you.😊
@calm1tbh
@calm1tbh 5 күн бұрын
This channel also was a turning point in my life nearly 4 years ago. It's sad to see all his old videos deleted but I will always remember this channel as the beginning of my journey to where I am today, and for that I also say, Thank you!
@BeyondTheQuran
@BeyondTheQuran 5 күн бұрын
I appreciate the sincerity from you both and pray that you continue to pursue the truth, whatever that may be, but just from my own belief I can't keep the videos up with a clear conscience. Perhaps it gave you a foundation to research upon, but I know that for others they won't do further research or it may be the tipping point for a contested belief of theirs. Thank you for your kind words though 🙏
@afifadanish7868
@afifadanish7868 4 күн бұрын
I appreciated the videos too, i lt was also nice to hear familiar British accent over the seemingly majority Americans. I get your decision to delete them, I’m always afraid to leave YT comments let alone make videos. Look forward to your future videos as you are good at what you do.
@samplersample
@samplersample Күн бұрын
Stay strong
@Jeffrey0-m1j
@Jeffrey0-m1j Күн бұрын
I'm happy to hear that me to ex Muslim ❤😊
@محمودعلي-ط6د9ق
@محمودعلي-ط6د9ق Күн бұрын
We support you bro
@chrisr348
@chrisr348 Күн бұрын
“For those who are led by the Spirit of God are children of God. For you did not receive a spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you received a spirit of adoption, through which we cry, “Abba, Father!” The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭8‬:‭14‬-‭16‬ ‭
@suussuzy4522
@suussuzy4522 4 сағат бұрын
I never understood people having hate for people that no longer believe. The so called genuine love and Mashalla comes if you "revert" but when you no longer believe even if you are not critisizing the religion people will get very agressive.Can somebody tell me why?
@RealNorthKariya
@RealNorthKariya 19 сағат бұрын
You’re very brave and wise. God bless you✝️✝️✝️
@KiribertiFandango
@KiribertiFandango 13 сағат бұрын
Well done! I am a non-muslim but after reading and watching testimonials of various ex-muslims I can appreciate that leaving the Islamic faith can be a traumatic experience for most. Despite there is free speech, openly admitting one has apostasized from Islam can easily make one a target for discrimination. Therefore I assume for most ex-muslims, the type of feelings that they have about Islam are the kind they would wish to keep under the rug. But for that same reason it takes a lot of courage to openly speak about one's experiences with Islam, growing up in that faith, only to become disillusioned by it and leave it. Whenever an ex-muslim speaks out, I do rejoice because it most probably gives other ex-muslims more hope and confidence that they are not alone.
@Incognito144
@Incognito144 12 сағат бұрын
I believe it is called clear so that believers treat is as clear in their study of it
@AlLah-j7w
@AlLah-j7w Күн бұрын
More power to you in search of truth
@ramzisellami5852
@ramzisellami5852 20 сағат бұрын
Congrats man! .an ex muslim from Algeria 🇩🇿
@TheExplorer-e1j
@TheExplorer-e1j 3 сағат бұрын
"Indeed, Allah is not timid to present an example - that of a mosquito or what is smaller than it. And those who have believed know that it is the truth from their Lord. But as for those who disbelieve, they say, "What did Allah intend by this as an example?" He misleads many thereby and guides many thereby. And He misleads not except the defiantly disobedient." Qur'an 2:26. "It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah. But those firm in knowledge say, "We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding." Quran 3:7
@sanafarooquee3619
@sanafarooquee3619 Күн бұрын
congrats
@consumptrix
@consumptrix 16 сағат бұрын
there’s one question i never see addressed by muslims and that is why the injeel is considered a holy book and jesus is described as the word of god, but after jesus’ message of peace and love god suddenly decided to become a murderous and hateful god in the quran, completely contradictory to the injeel. plus god reveals himself to mohammed who was not part of gods covenant with the jews. did god err when he selected the jews as his nation who should obey his word? why would a god who sent jesus to the jews to correct some of their beliefs then go to a completely different group of people to reveal his final law to another previously unknown gaggle of idolators instead of to the people he chose and clearly clung to enough to send them a messenger to remind them of some things. but suddenly he wants them killed by idolators and god spews hate like crazy through mohammed. if god can err regarding the people he revealed his law to then god is not infallible and cannot see the future. makes no sense.
@yasin6904
@yasin6904 12 сағат бұрын
You dont need the Hadiths to conclude that the servant referred to is more than likely the prophet Muhammed. What other servant would it be referring to in relation to taking said servant from the kaba?
@yasin6904
@yasin6904 12 сағат бұрын
Also, to conclude that ambiguity as to who that particular servant/messenger may be as being a contradiction is absurd. A contradiction to what?
@H__.22
@H__.22 3 күн бұрын
I went through a similar journey, and I wish you the best 🩷
@dafyddil
@dafyddil Күн бұрын
Happy for you, hope critical thinking continues to guide and inspire your journey :)
@samurainair1
@samurainair1 Күн бұрын
Congratulations
@noadyalins9135
@noadyalins9135 Күн бұрын
🎉❤
@manara-stream
@manara-stream Күн бұрын
Ironically, studying Islam (and any religion) leads to discovering a lot of inconsistencies, let alone finding out very questionable Hadiths that challenges the morals and ethics of so-called prophets and their companions. Religious people are either clueless about that, apologists or straight blunt about it.
@al-kimiya6962
@al-kimiya6962 3 күн бұрын
So you just followed Quranism to its natural conclusion. We've been saying all along that the initial assumption of Qur'anists is flawed, Qur'an is a piece of text and no piece of text is independent of its context and the background information, that's linguistics 101. But anyways, atleast you're being honest now.
@adrianabonitaaziz
@adrianabonitaaziz 19 сағат бұрын
I feel sadness in my heart , but I hope you find peace either way , being a moslim or not.
@chrisbowden4070
@chrisbowden4070 16 сағат бұрын
Isaiah 9:6-7, Jesus is the prince of peace
@Stevie-Hikma
@Stevie-Hikma 18 сағат бұрын
you mistranlated 15:9 in another video, it doesn't say quran. Here is the bombshell, are al quran and al thikr the same thing?
@yasin6904
@yasin6904 12 сағат бұрын
The argument of "why Arabic" its not a popular language, what language rhat existed at that time and still exists today in a form consistent enough from then to today that a modern person would be able to pick uo a text from 500 years ago and be able to read?
@AdamDylanMajor
@AdamDylanMajor 5 күн бұрын
My understanding is that the keyword is "servant" here. I think it's sufficient to be a servant to experience a night journey. Maybe one misses the occasion of remembering it or knowing exactly how it should be perceived, but any individual servant would experience it eventually. The idea being, these are some of the unique moments where an individual is addressed, because Quran deals with communal guidance, most often than not, rather than describing the individual journey of a believer
@BeyondTheQuran
@BeyondTheQuran 5 күн бұрын
That's an interesting take. Based off the context of the surah, I personally don't think it would 100% fit, but I could be wrong of course haha. But that's my point, it's not very clear. To me at least 🤷
@AdamDylanMajor
@AdamDylanMajor 5 күн бұрын
@TheBritishMuslim_ I think Quran interleaves contexts between historical and universal. Like, there's an economy of words that's so important. Quran is pretty short, so it tries to get across what ever applies to day-to-day psychological states, that people would otherwise call mystical. I find it has a very practical approach to the stories, but it mostly tries to get you hooked to go read other stuff. I mainly rely on Genesis as a means to understand Quran, personally.
@GayAliBabaShow
@GayAliBabaShow Күн бұрын
ps, you might need to update your channel bio on KZbin
@yacyac8710
@yacyac8710 20 сағат бұрын
Welcome to reality dude ❤
@GayAliBabaShow
@GayAliBabaShow Күн бұрын
btw, Qur'an is NOT fully arabic, many word are from 7 different olders languages, I am happy to send you a video about that
@TheExplorer-e1j
@TheExplorer-e1j 3 сағат бұрын
The Koran was sent to confirm the previous revelations as being from the same one God but to rectify them from deviations which happened in Judaism and Christianity. So when it says to refer back to them, it is in this framing. However, even though they have been corrupted, one can still find within them evidence pointing both to Mohamed's revelation and the message.
@Sarra_Amor
@Sarra_Amor Күн бұрын
Watch sherif gaber
@sanyaakurd-bd9wg
@sanyaakurd-bd9wg 3 күн бұрын
Brother, can you do a podcast with muslim lantern
@Lloydy786
@Lloydy786 3 күн бұрын
Did you find any difference in rulings based up on these slight differences?
@wuxr
@wuxr Күн бұрын
No, there are more things
@newguyat77
@newguyat77 15 сағат бұрын
8:00 islamic delimna.. Sam shamooan has explained it correctly
@ezroar
@ezroar Күн бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@Stevie-Hikma
@Stevie-Hikma 18 сағат бұрын
You've misunderstood a few concepts in my opinion. 1) to say something is not clear (i.e. several interpretations of a statement are possible) then that could be said of any book. The Quran admits in 3:7 there are authoritative/clear verses and those multi meaning. One should ask does Quran provide a system to narrow down the meaning to within a certain scope, yes it does. 2) Quran doesn't say find one contradiction in it then its not from God, it actually says "much contradiction" which is interesting. 3) just because Quran does not contain a detail you think is important does not mean it is not clear. Also the meaning of "tafsila" is not detailed, it is to make distinct, delineate, set apart. We can discuss this further if u want. Lastly Quranic evidence weighs the servant spoken of in chapter 17 as prophet Muhammad, see evidence below Who does 17:1 refer to? It can realistically only be Moses or Muhammad. Moses because he is mentioned in the next verse and it begins with "wa/and" implying a link to what was said previously. Muhammad because when AQ uses 3rd person singular delivery with the term "abd/servant" and does not explicitly name the abd addressed, it always or strongly points to the messenger of Quran, i.e. prophet Muhammad. Please see all occurrences here: Our abd - 2:23, 8:41, His abd - 18:1, 25:1, 39:36, 53:10, 57:9, God's abd - 72:19. Note how the start of the very next chapter, 18, and also 25 begin in a similar manner to 17. This weighs 17:1 in favour of referring to prophet Muhammad. It is clear from 17:1 the reason given for taking His servant from A to B was to be shown some of God's signs/ayat. Hence a possible link to Moses in 17:2 with "and We gave Moses the decree/writ", however if so, this would make this the odd one out, as when AQ discusses revelation it does not use these terms nor describe anything similar. Unless a link and explanation can be found of course. Thus, if anything, 17:1 seems to imply some other kind of signs/ayat. Al masjid al haram is NEVER mentioned along with Moses elsewhere in AQ, and in fact is exclusively mentioned along with the messenger of Quran. Taking these points into account, this weighs 17:1 significantly in favour of referring to prophet Muhammad.
@Stevie-Hikma
@Stevie-Hikma 17 сағат бұрын
you are right on one thing though, the traditional story of preservation, qiraat, ahruf etc is a mess, full of issues. In my view it is made up to explain away the variance.
@Stevie-Hikma
@Stevie-Hikma 18 сағат бұрын
you are falsely equating tawrat with old testament and injil with gospels
@SunLazurine
@SunLazurine Күн бұрын
Welcome to the club... Or shall I say, outside of the club? Anyway, congratulations for finding your own path. Take beer 🍻
@LeavingIslam54x9
@LeavingIslam54x9 4 күн бұрын
Based 👍👍
@crimsonlui1032
@crimsonlui1032 5 күн бұрын
Can you send me the errors you identified, I would like to review them and I can help you.
@crimsonlui1032
@crimsonlui1032 5 күн бұрын
@StopBullyingMe-rf9js Your frame of mind must be having a mental crisis lmao the Quran does not refute previous books
@wuxr
@wuxr Күн бұрын
Maybe why Muhammad thinks that in the daytime the sun sets here she goes under the throne of God (literally) to prostrate and when the night time approaches, God allows her to return! This is a true hadith in Bukhari and it is Muhammad's interpretation of verse
@Wolverine-rp9ed
@Wolverine-rp9ed Күн бұрын
Coming from an atheist, how can anyone give me even the tiniest sliver of 'proof' that heaven exists?
@FromValkyrie
@FromValkyrie Күн бұрын
​@@Wolverine-rp9edWhat qualifies as "proof" for you?
@Wolverine-rp9ed
@Wolverine-rp9ed Күн бұрын
@@FromValkyrie strech the meaning of proof as far as you want, but give me something that is remotely 'evident'
@howimetyourbaran2699
@howimetyourbaran2699 5 күн бұрын
When God talks about that this is a clear book, in my humble opinion, I believe the meaning is that the purpose of the book is clear which is guidance. Without knowing the history and the story of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH, a lot of events will become unclear for us specifically. When at the time the book got revealed for the first time to the Arabs through the Prophet Muhammad PBUH, they immediately understood what these subtle references referred to because they were actively living through these events. When you read the stories of other Prophets in the Quran, they are explained in very great details because the Arabs didn't know these stories either. My point being is, everything is clear in the Quran when it comes to religious guidance but the hadiths are necessary for us specifically, in order to give more context and explanations to us. At the time of the Prophet, people still asked the Prophet Muhammad questions about the religion and how to practice it properly which is very normal and logical This is also what God said in the Quran: "It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah. But those firm in knowledge say, "We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding." (QS. Aal-i-Imraan 3: Verse 7)
@togomori3008
@togomori3008 Күн бұрын
Welcome my friend Im an ex muslim too 😂😂😂
@mrx8080
@mrx8080 5 күн бұрын
In the Eyes of which 'God' you had to correct ? I wonder ....
@BeyondTheQuran
@BeyondTheQuran 5 күн бұрын
There's only one God
@mrx8080
@mrx8080 5 күн бұрын
@@BeyondTheQuran Agreed but which ideology / religion ?
@NamesPhimble
@NamesPhimble 4 күн бұрын
@@mrx8080 the one that match his desires
@wuxr
@wuxr Күн бұрын
Whoever he is, he is not the Islamic Allah ​@@mrx8080
@FromValkyrie
@FromValkyrie Күн бұрын
The one who presents the strongest evidence. And so far, only Yahweh, the God of Israel, has done so. Aulloh is an impostor.
@NikoKivikoski
@NikoKivikoski 3 күн бұрын
Oh yeah man. I just have similar issue regarding the Christian faith. Actually everything was very well before I joined to a congregation. I had very religious experiences, like i felt I am being purified of my past sins, I was very pure in my belief, but then I joined to a congregation.. I met people who disliked gays, how they were praising Israel in every corner, how they went on and on about Jesus in every question I sort of got an overload of it and lots of other things, it led me being from the pure believer to carrying a big weight of s* on ny shoulders.. Now i kind of hate the congregation and its even a hard time to read the bible to be honest. People just mess up everything that is nice and good in this world..
@FromValkyrie
@FromValkyrie Күн бұрын
You have issues with Christianity because Christians like Israel, and love Jesus who is the foundation of the faith? 😂 😂 😂
@newguyat77
@newguyat77 15 сағат бұрын
9::40 quran at portion says it is clear about everything, then it has words like alif lam mim which nobody knows.. More likely cut paste from another language gone wrong
@nirbi
@nirbi 3 күн бұрын
I hope you can figure things out and be led to a more fluid and inclusive universal understanding of religion. We don’t need to understand everything perfectly, and you are free to pick and choose Hadith and interpretations of the Quran that resonate with you. Although you’ll probably lose a few intolerant friends along the way. Good luck!
@TowardsInfinity_1
@TowardsInfinity_1 4 күн бұрын
1. Clarity and Explanation of the Quran Claim: The verse in Surah Al-Isra (17:1) is unclear, as it does not specify who the “servant” refers to, and other verses are also said to lack clarity. Response: The Quran is a self-explanatory book. The identity of the “servant” in 17:1 can be understood through context and other Quranic references. In Islamic scholarship, there is widespread consensus that this verse refers to the Isra and Mi'raj event, involving Prophet Muhammad. While the Quran does not explicitly name the person in this verse, the broader context makes it clear that it refers to the Prophet. Clarity comes not only from a superficial reading but from a deeper understanding and context. 2. Inheritance Distribution Claim: The inheritance verses in the Quran may sum up to more than 100%, and this is presented as a contradiction. Response: Islamic inheritance law specifies certain shares for different relatives, and in cases where the total exceeds 100%, scholars have developed specific solutions using concepts like "awl" and "asabah." This issue is addressed within Islamic jurisprudence, and it does not constitute a contradiction. The Quran’s verses on inheritance are clear within the framework of Islamic law and should be understood accordingly. 3. The Quran's Relationship with Previous Scriptures Claim: The Quran affirms previous revelations but does not state that they were corrupted. Response: The Quran affirms the original revelations of the Torah and the Gospel, but it also mentions the alterations made by people to these texts. For example, Surah Al-Baqarah (2:79) criticizes those who "write with their own hands" and claim it is from Allah. This shows that while the original scriptures were from Allah, they were later corrupted by human intervention. 4. Preservation of the Quran and Variants Claim: The Quran’s preservation is questioned due to different Qira'at (readings) and Ahruf (variant readings). Response: The Quran has been preserved by Allah (15:9). The different Qira'at are not contradictions but variations in pronunciation and slight differences in wordings that enrich the understanding of the text. These variants were revealed to accommodate different dialects and were preserved to reflect the diversity of the Arab-speaking world. The standardization of the Mushaf and the preservation of the variants do not contradict the Quran's preservation. The differences in the readings do not affect the fundamental message of the Quran. 5. Scientific Contradictions Claim: The descriptions of embryonic development in the Quran conflict with modern science. Response: The Quranic descriptions of embryology are far ahead of their time. For example, in Surah Al-Mu’minun (23:13-14), the stages of embryonic development are described. Modern science has affirmed the accuracy of these stages, demonstrating that there is no conflict between the Quran and contemporary scientific understanding. While the Quran is not a science textbook, its descriptions are consistent with the facts discovered by modern science. 6. Why Was the Quran Revealed in Arabic? Claim: Why was the Quran revealed in Arabic, a minority language at the time, if it is meant to be a universal message? Response: The Quran was revealed in Arabic because its initial audience was the Arab people. However, the Quran’s message is universal, and the linguistic richness of Arabic was ideal for conveying the depth and precision of the divine message. The message of the Quran has been translated into many languages, making it accessible to people worldwide. The use of Arabic is not a limitation but a means to ensure the exactness of the message. 7. The Universal Message of the Quran The criticisms imply that the Quran’s message was only for a particular group, but the Quran explicitly addresses all of humanity (2:185). To understand the essence of the message, one must approach the Quran with sincerity and an open heart. The message of the Quran is not limited to a particular time or place; it is meant for all people. Conclusion: The Quran has been subject to many criticisms throughout history, but it has provided strong responses to these critiques. Many of the claims made against the Quran stem from either taking verses out of context or a lack of deeper understanding of Islamic scholarship. It is important to approach these issues with a thorough study and avoid making conclusions based on surface-level readings. It is encouraged to seek truth with sincerity. If one takes the journey of searching for truth, they will find that the Quran is a consistent, preserved, and clear book. Criticizing the Quran based on the same standards applied to other books without considering its historical and theological context does not lead to an accurate conclusion.
@nachojimenez2420
@nachojimenez2420 Күн бұрын
this is so much bullshit
@eidsayed6048
@eidsayed6048 Күн бұрын
Your responses seem overly simplistic and repetitive, mirroring ChatGPT's. I'll focus on key concerns. 2. Ambiguities in Quranic inheritance laws indicate limitations. We question solutions outside divine framework. 4. Your Quran preservation narrative overlooks complexities. Historical records and Hadiths reveal deleted verses (Rajm, Surah Al-Ahzab's ending). Research 'Al-Masahif' for variations altering meanings. 5. Scientific contradictions exist. Show me an embryo consisting only of bones, as Quranic descriptions suggest. 6. I'll agree language is merely a tool if Quranic complexity isn't considered a human challenge. Presenting a Chinese book to a non-Chinese speaker, would saying, 'Produce an even more complex Chinese book' be logical?
@FromValkyrie
@FromValkyrie Күн бұрын
The quran is self explanatory, yet you need endless tafsirs and ahadith to understand every verse. 😂 😂 😂 The embryo is layered like an onion in your aulloh's scientific book. Something which scientists have repeatedly shot down. Even when mimi hijab accosted a few scientists to validate the garbage book, they unapologetically shut him down. If I were to type a proper response to this drivel, I'd be here all day.
@TowardsInfinity_1
@TowardsInfinity_1 2 сағат бұрын
@@eidsayed6048 1. Indeed, the Quran initiated a revolutionary and fair concept of inheritance, especially at the time when it had been revealed, such as in Surah An-Nisa 4:11-12. The verses, while outlining specific rules, sometimes depend on the contexts, such as family types or social norms. That is where Islamic scholars and jurisprudents step in with its interpretation and adaptation to various concrete life situations. In fact, the need for an explanation does not denote defectiveness in the law from the Divine; rather, it evidences its flexibility for multiple situations and cultures. 2. The preservation of the Quran is an essential dogma in Islamic creed, as evidenced in Surah Al-Hijr 15:9. Most "deleted verses" arguments are based on some isolated hadith reports, which, if taken out of context, may give rise to confusion. For example, references to the Rajm verse reflect what the Prophet did, not necessarily Quranic text. The concept of abrogation (naskh) explains certain adjustments in divine legislation during the Prophet's time, but the finalized Quranic text remains intact and universally agreed upon. Historical sources, such as "Al-Masahif," sometimes comment on variations of recitation (qira'at), not contradictions in meaning. These variations reflect the richness of the Arabic language and do not compromise the Quran's integrity or universal message. 3. Statements on embryology in the Quran-Surah Al-Mu'minun 23:14-were really incredible for that time and were pieces of information that ancient civilizations could not have known. While modern embryology describes a more intricate process, the Quran is not a scientific textbook. Its purpose is to emphasize the wisdom and power behind creation, not to detail every scientific nuance. The mention of bones followed by flesh reflects general stages, not literal anatomical timing, and such verses should be looked at in perspective, that they are to be pondered upon and not put down as some sort of a manual. 4. The style of the Quran is beyond human literary composition. It combines unprecedented eloquence, depth in meaning, and a framework that cannot be paralleled. The challenge of bringing something similar to it was not merely about writing an eloquent text but about matching the holistic perfection of its impact, message, and resonance on a universal scale (Surah Al-Baqarah 2:23). As for accessibility, the Quran’s universality doesn’t mean every individual will instantly grasp all its meanings. That’s why translations and interpretations exist, not to replace the Quran, but to help convey its message to different audiences. The argument comparing the Quran to a book in Chinese ignores the fact that the Quran is meant to be translated and understood globally. These criticisms usually originate from a misunderstanding of the context, purpose, and language of the Quran. Far from weakening its divine origin, such discussions demonstrate the profundity of the Quran and its ability to engage its readers from across cultures and time. I encourage you to further explore and question them-the best way to arrive at better understanding is through dialogue. You can reach me via Telegram from the "About" section on my channel.✅
@ramosatt1993
@ramosatt1993 5 күн бұрын
Have you challenged learned Quran alone representative, perhaps Ayoob Karim or Shuaib Abdullahi to see other perspectives to your concerns and ambiguities?
@flyinglegion5697
@flyinglegion5697 5 күн бұрын
Shuaib isn't Quran Alone. He's a Quran + Aramaic Bible "Alone", and he believes he is a messenger.
@Ryan_Nath
@Ryan_Nath 4 күн бұрын
Is it because allah thought Mary was part of the trinity ?
@flyinglegion5697
@flyinglegion5697 5 күн бұрын
3:15, I would say that "Quran Alone vs Quran+Something_else" is a false dichotomy, although I'd say that I don't believe that anything should be put on par with the Qur'ān as a Muslim, such as the Bible, I disagree with the belief claiming that the Qur'ān absolutely prohibits seeking from sources outside the Qur'ān, although the Qur'ān should be used as a benchmark/criterion including reason and logic for verifying sources outside the Qur'ān. Keyword: absolutely (I'm referring to the absolutism you may have once held to despite being an adherent of daily timed prayers, which many of the Quran Alone Muslims don't believe in). Kind regards.
@Sunnahshield
@Sunnahshield 3 күн бұрын
look who is here
@crimsonlui1032
@crimsonlui1032 5 күн бұрын
There is no mistake about who is speaking, this is a style characteristic of the Quran, the Quran has its own style and rhetoric. I mean these are really simple things, this does not make something not clear yk
@crimsonlui1032
@crimsonlui1032 5 күн бұрын
@StopBullyingMe-rf9js geniunely leave the phone
@wuxr
@wuxr Күн бұрын
Lmao really? "Indeed, Allah commands you to slaughter a cow." (Surah Al-Baqarah, 2:67)
@TheTruthIsIslam786
@TheTruthIsIslam786 4 күн бұрын
It is fully clear and detailed in it's core message. It's not a book of details for every single thing in the universe. Qur'an 3:7-8.
@FromValkyrie
@FromValkyrie Күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@tghadi
@tghadi 5 күн бұрын
So you're still a Muslim but you don't believe in the Qur'an? Well I've come across some Christians and even Hindus that believe that Qur'an IS the word of God; but they still stay in the own respective religions. I thought I've seen it all.
@BeyondTheQuran
@BeyondTheQuran 5 күн бұрын
Haha, I'm sure by all definitions I'm no longer a Muslim. I believe in one God and surrender to One God, so define that as you wish 🤷
@tghadi
@tghadi 5 күн бұрын
@@BeyondTheQuran If we were to strictly take the Qur'an's definition of what Islam is supposed to be, if you're still surrendering to the one God, then you're still a Muslim. But your problem is somewhat rudimentary, from my point of view. We can discuss this further if you want to.
@WLWLWLW
@WLWLWLW 5 күн бұрын
​@@BeyondTheQurandidnt you learn about your faith im God from the Quran thoroughly. The name is "warning" and you dont know if its perfect or not. You know aswell about how it speaks to multiple groups of people of different times through thousands of years.
@WLWLWLW
@WLWLWLW 5 күн бұрын
​@@BeyondTheQurannot only that but to people with all different understundings and lveles of conciousness
@WLWLWLW
@WLWLWLW 5 күн бұрын
@@BeyondTheQuran wasnt the Quran the book that formed your faith in God. It srrved its purpose being called "the warning'. You know aswell it speaks to 100 s of groups of ppl troughout thousands of years only God knows if its perfect and its defenetely clear for him
@belowed1190
@belowed1190 5 күн бұрын
I don’t get it. So are you no longer a Quranist/ follower of the Quran?
@BeyondTheQuran
@BeyondTheQuran 5 күн бұрын
No. Based off the fundamental statement that the Quran is preserved and perfect from a perfect God, I can't believe that when I can clearly see errors.
@Scumophobe
@Scumophobe 5 күн бұрын
@@BeyondTheQuran You didn’t show any error in any of your vids, only complaining that it’s not clear enough
@belowed1190
@belowed1190 5 күн бұрын
@@BeyondTheQuranwould you say that you still follow the majority of the commandments that are outlined in the Quran, even if you aren’t Muslim? Just asking cause I’m curious. I’ve been on my own journey of religious discovery for a few years and sometimes wonder if I am still a “Muslim. I believe in one god, follow the commandments, but I’m not sure if I do it from a “Muslim” or “Quran only” perspective.
@BeyondTheQuran
@BeyondTheQuran 5 күн бұрын
Yeah, I'd say so. I don't ever plan on drinking, but I didn't even before I was a Muslim. I still plan to fast Ramadan, but I did before I was a Muslim. I give to charity and do fundraisers and will still do so, but I did before I was Muslim. With that being said, most of my beliefs will also overlap with those of Christians and Buddhists. It's a weird one, isn't it? Am I still Muslim? By base translated meaning, sure. By other factors like believing the Quran is the preserved word of God, then no. But most Muslims wouldn't have called me a Muslim when I was Quran only either. When I did follow the Quran, you probably could have classed me as a Buddhist too because I never disagreed with a single philosophy from Buddhism (not the version that pray to Buddha and believe in reincarnation, just the pure philosophy Buddhism). At this point, I feel like people can draw their own conclusions. Some may call me a Muslim, others Kafir. Because I follow previous scripture some may call me a Christian, others may call me non religious but a follower of God 🤷 At the end of the day, does it matter? Most religious figures never created the religion that follows them, so as long as I have God in my heart and I seek the truth, that's good enough for me for now 👍
@belowed1190
@belowed1190 4 күн бұрын
@@BeyondTheQuranhave you looked into topics like the occult/Gnosticism/spirituality?
@Gabriel-ServantOfGod
@Gabriel-ServantOfGod 4 күн бұрын
لَئِنْ أُخْرِجُوا۟ لَا يَخْرُجُونَ مَعَهُمْ وَلَئِن قُوتِلُوا۟ لَا يَنصُرُونَهُمْ وَلَئِن نَّصَرُوهُمْ لَيُوَلُّنَّ ٱلْأَدْبَـٰرَ ثُمَّ لَا يُنصَرُونَ If they are turned out, they will not go forth with them; and if they are attacked, they will not help them; and if they help them, they will turn their backs, then will they not be helped. (59:12) I randomly selected this ayat, as it's meant to be. Do not lose faith over ambiguous matters, the ambiguous matters are precisely what 3:7 mentions, and that sign is not in vain, as none of the signs are. Neither the ones inside, nor outside of the Qur'an.
@Aesieda
@Aesieda 5 күн бұрын
4 minutes in and I'm seeing the flaws here. I'll point them out simply because I feel like that the conclusions you are coming to are based off inaccurate assumptions about what the Quran actually says versus what you're expecting it to say. For example, did the Quran actually say it is clear and fully detailed? Did the Quran say it is the only religious guidance? The word religion or religious isn't even in the book. What the Quran says has to be understood based on what it's actually saying versus what we are trying to make it say. In the second chapter in the first few verses, the Quran says ALM. THAT is the book upon which there is no doubt. It is a guidance for the aware. The Book and the Quran are different. When the Quran says the book is fully detailed, it's not talking about the Quranic scripture, it's talking about the book. So yes, you are right that in order for you to accept something to be true, there needs to be a logical consistency. I truly believe that myself, but I'm not seeing logical inconsistencies when I try to comprehend what the Quran is telling me without some prejudice or bias. The direct recipients of the Quran were the Arabs, it's literally written in their language and talks about their customs and culture and historical narratives. We have to take that into account as well. God is talking to everyone while at the same time, addressing a group of people, because fundamentally, the universal values should remain the same. The Quran calls itself the reminder, a reminder by definition is information that you already knew beforehand. By that logic, there shouldn't be any principle in the Quran that cannot already be known by anyone who reads it. The Quran isn't telling us anything new. As for the book, the book is a metaphysical concept referring to the sum culmination of all knowledge that the universe is based upon. We have access to the book when we use our minds. The universe is written with a certain logical script, a mathematical, systematic reality that is clear and ordered. The more we engage with our minds, the more we recognize this structure and therefore gain knowledge and further, wisdom. That is the book. The revealed scriptures are derivatives of the book, they are not THE book. Arabic word Al Kitab (lit. The Written Script) does not have to refer to a literal written book, but can refer to written information that can be metaphysical, and can apply to multiple concepts. The Quran is using lower level human language to describe high level concepts and topics that demand the use of the human mind with a combination of scientific and philosophical exploration. It's no surprise that the Quran is constantly promoting the study of different created things in the universe (I can show the verses). Overall, I agree with your sentiments and your general trail of thought, but I still disagree with your conclusions as I feel there is so much more you have yet to discover about what the Quran is actually telling us. And it is fine if you have not fully grasped it because truth be told, no one has full knowledge of everything. But what I can say is is that you have a responsibility to ensure that your reasons for accepting or rejecting something have to actually be reasonable and valid, and the only way you can truly measure that is through engaging your thoughts and ideas with others and comparing them to get a better idea. All ideas are pawns in a continuous battle and these ideas have to be put to the test to see if they hold up. You made a public video sharing your ideas which is great, but that opens the doors for people to share their ideas as well, and now it's up to you to determine if your conclusions are accurate or there is more to be uncovered here. So I'll end this by saying, do you feel like you have truly grasped the Quranic message or do you feel like due to misunderstanding the intent of some passages that there is a greater possibility of these verses to mean something different from what people normally take them as? Remember, the Quran even tells the prophet to increase his knowledge and to not be hasty with The Book. Muhammad did not know everything, he was a student just like us.
@Gabriel-ServantOfGod
@Gabriel-ServantOfGod 4 күн бұрын
Since i read the Qur'an, i've seen it literally fullfill what it claims, constantly. It claims to be a reminder, Allah knows it has been for me, without this i'm nothing, in total darkness, lost... i now see it because i can compare what it is to be founded on the truth, compared to me guessing... Regarding the Writ/Scripture/Book, i think ALM has a reason to be, be it a reference to Al Fatiha, as Sam Gerrans says, or to the Universal Writ where everything is inscripted, as some think... I think as you said, the issue may be in our expectations being based on potentially faulty translations. I think the Qur'an that has reached us, is what Allah wanted it to be, i don't care of manuscripts of the past, or secondary oral traditions, they could be faked... But the will of Allah is what we can see with our own eyes. And more to come. Salamun alaika
@zerkizanistehwahedstoot2950
@zerkizanistehwahedstoot2950 2 күн бұрын
Where can I find more information about these topics of Islam?
@Aesieda
@Aesieda 2 күн бұрын
@@zerkizanistehwahedstoot2950 Google, "Lamp of Islam" website.
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