Why I Quit Java (as a Java Developer)

Java is ideal for some types of software but terrible for others. After 13+ years working with Java I decided to quit.
In this video you'll learn why I first got a job as a Java developer, why Java no longer works for what I'm doing right now, and what more appropriate technology I'll use in the future.

[@alecclews]

I've developed in multiple languages over the years (e.g. COBOL, Assembler, C, Java, Python, Perl, ...) Developers should change

[@coderkinime]

As one of your subscribers and a customer to your Gradle Hero course and Gradle Bible book, this is a very sad news. I cannot tell you how much the content you created has helped me in my career to understand Gradle and become confident about it. But I fully understand what it takes to keep content coming especially when you don't have a full-time job. I will stay subscribed to your channel and look forward to your next big idea. Thanks a ton for your efforts and contributions and all the best wishes on your next bright idea. 👍🏼

[@TomGregoryTech]

That's great. Thanks for the encouragement!

[@schiesseisen]

I can only completely agree with coderkinime! Thanks a ton, Tom!

[@rolandringgenberg8501]

Cool and honest video, congratz! I'm afraid this is the first video of you the youtube algo made me aware of. Therefore I'm afraid I'm not a regular of your videos, but as I program on our stack since the 90 (JVM and Web) I thought I leave a comment anyway. :) If you after a while will come back into programming, as a Java/Gradle crack while still of courese enjoying the client stuff very much, take a look at Kotlin in combination with 3D. It could bring everything together that you where talking about in your short video. Success and see you in the cloud!

[@TomGregoryTech]

Thank you. Glad the algo reached you for this one.

[@WebDevJapan]

Welcome to the JavaScript family

[@KangoV]

Good luck in your new plans. I've been using Java for so many use cases now. Web apps (Micronaut+HTMX/JStachio), CLIs (Micronaut/PicoCLI + native), Massive data loading, AWS Lambda (60ms cold startup), Cyber security analysis (STIX) with graph dbs (CYPHER), wrapping C libs with the new FFM api. Matrix processing with the new Vector API (AVX2/AVX512) which is going to be HUGE in AI/ML (NO external libs). Running Python inside Java with Truffle. Yeah that last one is mad ;) I started out with 6502 assembler, BASIC, COBOL, Pascal, RPG, C, C++, Python etc. Being able to run the same Java app (unchanged) on an IBM mainframe, midrange (AS/400) and on a PC was great for me. Now being able to natively compile (GraalVM) and get insane speeds (1BRC), is just icing.

[@TomGregoryTech]

That's cool. Java is a very versatile language.

[@vedisoft_in]

Hi, good and true video. Even I have over 2 decades of experience in Java. Personally even I feel like quitting it. But, I am scared of my future and finance. One question, would be thankful if you will answer it. HOW DO YOU MANAGE YOUR FINANCE NOW

[@TomGregoryTech]

Yes I have the same fear. I'm living off a tiny income but mostly savings. Staying motivated to keep building stuff is how I plan to turn that around. I'll explain more in the next video.

[@vedisoft_in]

@@TomGregoryTech thanks for the next reply. Waiting eagerly for your next Video :-)

[@tiagoorcall.]

Hello, I'm Brazilian and I'm looking for content to study in JAVA, I'm just starting out and from your video, I understood a little about what you meant, should I continue with my studies in JAVA or look for new paths too?

[@TomGregoryTech]

Greetings! By documenting my decision to quit Java I hope to offer an alternate perspective. Everyone has a different situation though, so you'll have to take from it what's useful to make your own decision. Do you have any more specific questions about Java and industry in general? I might be able to cover in another video.

[@tiagoorcall.]

@@TomGregoryTech Nice! About JAVA, is it worth investing time in this language nowadays?

[@Karnikhil91]

Very painful.....when u say I'm leaving java

[@user-od1mt8qr8y]

Oh No! Anyway.. good luck for what ever your next plans are!!

[@TomGregoryTech]

Thank you

[@kanybekmomukeev4116]

So om which Stack you changed? Golang or C++?

[@TomGregoryTech]

Any stack to deliver a full web app as a solo developer. I've chosen Vue.js (TypeScript & HTML), Tailwind CSS, & AWS Lambda (JavaScript).

[@himankshu]

@@TomGregoryTechwhy not go? I decided to go with Golang! Whats your opinion?

[@jesy1732]

@@himankshuI don’t think you understand. Go, and Java are great backend languages. It depends on YOU. What you enjoy most when it comes to backend development. I’m guessing he no longer feels the enjoyment of using Java compared to TS. There are some who don’t like python or JavaScript and rather code in Java, c#, or c++. But you must understand why. Each specialized or do things better than the other(that can be subjective). Honestly once you understand the core concepts you can basically code in any language and decide by preference. The tools I currently used is Laravel/php (great documentation and structure) TS/node.js (scalability) and Python/dijango (easy to use and flexible) and Java was my first 💙. The real question is ‘do you enjoy these specific tools you’re using to develop these software programs?’

[@andresgomez5592]

@@jesy1732your English sucks haha

[@shankar7435]

@@TomGregoryTechThanks for the details.

[@johnmoe2806]

Pffft. I have developed java since 97. No turning back. I never gonna get better or more effective with anything else worth trying for what I do for a living. I say this after 34 seconds of your video. Will never change....never! Okay...lets see the rest.

[@johnmoe2806]

Okay seen the rest now. Your reason is legit. Different setting from my own completely and understandable from you angle. Good luck with your choice and good luck with your future content.

[@TomGregoryTech]

Thanks

[@jryanhale6037]

Can someone help with a Java project for school?

[@rohangoud2572]

What do you got?

[@dralex-yp1ib]

This is sad. You course "Monitoring A Spring Boot Application" is really awesome! It helped me a lot!

[@duartemarco]

Is it safe to assume that you have enough money not to need a full-time job?

[@louisant1817]

who cares about that, don't look into other people's pockets

[@TomGregoryTech]

Forr now, yes. But I need to start other potentially money making projects that I'll talk about in future videos.

[@elvis8180]

are you planning to create a course?

[@TomGregoryTech]

What goal would the course help you achieve?

[@ForChiddlers]

Java + 25 years ! Now flutter... its about the same🎉

[@arghyamitra3281]

Long live the king

[@hongmosung5045]

자바 공화국에서 자바로 일하고 있는데 슬프네요 😢

[@arjavgarg5801]

चुप

[@kaidaluck648]

You either die with Java or live long enough to use Javascript 😂

[@tiagoorcall.]

JAJAJAJAJAJAAJAJa

[@WebDevJapan]

lol What am I doing? I started with JavaScript and haven't done anything else.

[@blzrL]

​@@WebDevJapanyoure coding, not programming

[@WebDevJapan]

@@blzrL oh dang it guess chat gpt is gonna replace me

[@jjovanw]

bro got lost in the sauce 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@chadlunders4898]

His OnlyFans really took off 😂

[@murph1329]

microsoft killed java....and this is a good thing. a very very very good thing. All those years of java developers hating on MS stack guys. I guess we get the last laugh

[@onlinewatcher1000]

worthless videos if author is no longer developer