WHY I SOLD MY DREAM CAR: The Shocking Truth About My Lotus Evora Lemon!

[@kbjerke279]

I am so glad I won't hear about your weekly Lotus problems anymore!! Congrats on getting rid of that lemon!

[@06VistaBlueGT1]

My wife owns a 2020 GT in Lamborghini Purple and its been pretty flawless. Bought it pre-owned and was the 3rd owner. Only real major issue in over 2 years was from an aftermarket "autoblip" box that one of the owners had installed. Threw a CEL, put into "limp mode". It corrected itself the next morning, as she took it to the local indy shop & they cleared fhe codes. Probably the little box caused the brake switch to go haywire. But once the blip box was turned off, its been fine. The trunk is intermittent with opening, but i figured out how to open it more consistently (pressing dead center right above the latch on the hatch while pressing the button on the fob). Other than that, its been A BLAST!! I'm sorry you had some issues. Every manufacturer will have some cars that have issues. Its inevitable as it's a hand built car. But problems like what my wife has had won't keep me from wanting to buy my own car in time. This is my attainable dream car! Good luck with your next car.

[@gary7moore]

Ugh…. What a nightmare! I own a 21 GT that has been a pleasure to own in the 21,000 miles and counting that I have driven the car. Window regulator & crazing headlights have been my only issues. The dealership you purchased the car from I would suggest everyone to stay away from, they are less then a hour from me, however I drove 2+ hours to Gator, they actually know how to work on these cars! Good luck with whatever you get, anyone else considered a evora I would bet 99% of the GT’s have been more like my experience then Dylan’s. The Emira’s have been out long enough they should have the bugs worked out, however for me I would wait a few years until a more performance oriented one is released .

[@salimrandall]

Dang Bro you just killed my Lotus dreams. I’m sorry you went through such a nightmare. Thank you for making the video.

[@dailytherapy7597]

lol there are plenty of us that has no issues with our evoras.

[@almart8330]

Mine has been flawless for 4 years. Maintenance and thats it.

[@savagesenders2727]

same

[@jedifar]

Sorry to hear that, unfortunately there are outliers out there like yours but majority of owners have only had minor to no issues. Just comes with the territory of low production hand built cars

[@stinkintoad]

This is why i would get an older used manual. Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious is certainly true for this car.

[@EvoraGT430]

You've definitely been incredibly unlucky. These cars are not typically this unreliable AT ALL.

[@dylannipple]

Yea it was rough!

[@MYVT47]

Problems started when you bought an IPS -who gets an auto lotus GT 🤦‍♂️

[@dylannipple]

Its what was available new at the time and qualified for Lotus rebate.

[@wil687]

I feel you, I've a slew of trouble with my 21 GT where I have been without my car for as long as 5 months, but I'm a masochist lol

[@nickgost]

Louts: We’re a premium car manufacturer. Also lotus: You didn’t actually expect to be able to drive this thing did you?

[@dylannipple]

Lol I expected to be able to at least get a track day in but that was way too much to ask of it!!! Had to cancel the 2 track days I had scheduled and just gave up after that.

[@nickgost]

@@dylannipple Trackdays stuck in 3rd sounds like a winning recipe 😂

[@dylannipple]

@@nickgost 😂

[@jerusdc]

10k miles zero problems here since replacing a window regulator. 2020 Evora GT.

[@dylannipple]

I just got a Lemon sadly.

[@jerusdc]

@@dylannipple Yeah sounds like it. Sorry to hear man. In most cases with this Toyota power plant these really are the most reliable sports car you can get. Being hand built though they do have little issues here in there you can usually fix yourself. You of course shouldn't have to, But way easier than taking to the dealer. Lots of Lotus guys seem to have basic mechanic skills as well to own them lol. I used to have an Exige and it was the same story.

[@jaystrix]

I’ve never had a single issue with my 2021 Evora Gt. It’s been 27000 kms

[@dylannipple]

Mine was clearly a 🍋 based on others responses.

[@jaystrix]

@ I’m really sorry to hear that. Please give Lotus’s another chance, there really isn’t anything else like them on the market. I’m about to get an Elise s3 in a few days lol. I’ve completely fallen for company 😭

[@dylannipple]

@ O I plan too! I just dont plan to purchase anything on the Evora platform again. Looking older like Elise or an Esprit. At least then when it faults its an old British car and to be expected. A bit annoying when its brand new.

[@nintense1]

Sorry for your experience. Seems like you had to deal with really bad mechanics. I consider myself a hobby mechanic, and halfway through your story, it was screaming a wiring harness. Own an Evora 2010 for over 8 years and it’s reliable as any good 14 years old car.

[@dylannipple]

I am a career technician but sadly my professional opinion means nothing to the dealers. They do what they can get approved.

[@nintense1]

@@dylannippleI never used the Lotus warranty as I got it 5 years old, but I never experienced with other cars I own that the manufacturer declined the dealer diagnosis. Not that I consider dealer mechanics as top notch, but at least they see the car. Things like that are really bad for the brand.

[@dylannipple]

@@nintense1 they kept throwing parts at it. The total service bill on the car when I added all the invoices up were around 35% of the msrp. Lol 😂

[@Shooterpirat]

Good video!

[@BookAutowerks]

With all the dead clusters and other weird issues no one ever checked the charging system or wiring?

[@dylannipple]

Nope…… You would think but as a customer they would probably not listen. I also believe the wiring was the issue with the sensors in the engine.

[@BookAutowerks]

​@@dylannipple it sucks, but this reinforces my negative perception that dealership techs are just parts cannon operators. After the same parts fail over and over you gotta realize there is an underlying issue...

[@dylannipple]

@@BookAutowerks Exactly!!!!!

[@1183newman]

Yea sounds like an earthing problem or wiring harness, probably 90% of these issues would have been fixed with a new wiring harness fitted and then most of the other issues which are the result of sloppy work taking the dash apart each time would have been avoided.

[@Promit]

I've owned an Evora GT for a year trouble free and adore it. Sorry yours hasn't been good.

[@dylannipple]

It will be missed! I hope to get another Lotus again later, just needed to get out of this one while I could before warranty ended.

[@MS-fc2sr]

My 2020 GT with 12K miles has been very reliable. A cosmetic issue covered under warranty is about it. Sounds like you unfortunately got the short stick. Most owner's I've talked to and met are happy with the reliability. Mark Lotus Ltd.

[@dylannipple]

@@MS-fc2sr very much so!

[@leehossain8339]

OMG. That's a total lemon. Should not have left the factory. How did it pass quality control. Buying a Lotus is a bit of a lottery. Looks like you got on the wrong side of the lottery. Really feel for you man.

[@dylannipple]

Yea it’s interesting to hear different views. There are several people that think its okay and to just deal with it as it a quirk of the car. I feel the brand can’t get better if the owners do not make it a point to bring the issues up.

[@evansc3580]

It’s not Lotus that’s at fault here. The car comes with a factory warranty to sort all this out. It’s that the dealership network in the US is weak and unskilled in working on these cars. These hand built cars need experts that only specialise in working on these.

[@dylannipple]

The Lotus dealer I worked with was in continuous contact with the field engineers trying to resolve and doing as they said. Lotus’ fix all and solve all issues was not able to resolve and it continued to have issues.

[@evansc3580]

@@dylannipple I hear what your saying. I live in Australia and have had 3 new Lotus cars over 15 years. All have been reliable and gave hardly any problems. However, the few little problems I had I obviously went to the Lotus dealer to fix as the cars were under factory warranty. Or so I thought. I quickly learnt that the Lotus dealer was sending the cars out to a private non dealer engineering workshop that specialised in Lotus's. In fact they were a race team and actually raced these things. They were mostly English and all race engineers! Mate you wouldn't believe the difference! Simple stuff like rattling seat rails that I had taken in multiple times to be fixed and started off ok and then went back to rattling for example was fixed immediately. My point is that these dealerships don't receive the real world hands-on training and as these cars are limited in number, don't receive adequate training. Coupled with the usual HR problems of staff moving on, not giving a dam etc it can actually make the problem worst. As you said correctly stated these are mostly hand built specialist cars (the Evora/Emira less so) and as such they need specialist technician/Engineers working on them. Everyone else will just make the problem worst and I believe this might have been the case here.

[@cabuboyvisitacion1298]

Wow! Here I am thinking about purchasing the EMIRA. I don't know we'll see if I can't afford the C8 Z06..

[@stirkac]

Looks like incompetent dealerships, rather than Lotus themselves are at fault here. Most likely, all of this is a wiring harness issue, and it should all be replaced at the third MAF/cluster change. Atleast this experience is somewhat offset by the fact you didn't loose money 🤷‍♂️

[@dylannipple]

I agree. Yet they kept adding zip ties to more and more sensors in the engine bay.

[@shanefanon]

Lotus - Lots of trouble;e usually serious . Past owner of several Lotus. I know your pain.

[@trevorlindsey580]

Mine has been flawless other than the backup camera. What did you have to do to have such bad karma?

[@dylannipple]

Right!!! It was rough. I did all my research before buying and knew there would be a few things FEW!

[@trevorlindsey580]

@@dylannipple So Sorry. My Lotus cars I have had have been the joy of my life, and I wish you could have experienced the same.

[@lefroy1]

The new owner won't like this vd one little bit.

[@dylannipple]

Right 😬

[@johnmick9457]

You would think Lotus we improve but it doesn't look like it. You either get a good one or a really really bad one.

[@dylannipple]

Yep thats what I heard from others throughout my ownership. Seems to be happening with the Emira too currently.

[@stephanieshaw3830]

I would have sold it after the first year!! 😂

[@NeoDon1]

WOW! What a Shame Its Beautiful.

[@dylannipple]

Yea 🥲that motorsport black is gorgeous when the sun would hit it! The gold flakes would shine right through!

[@douglastaylor8039]

These cars today are nothing but garbage 🗑 and that's on purpose.

[@dylannipple]

Sadly things are designed to break to keep you buying the next one.

[@douglastaylor8039]

@@dylannipple exactly. Not because we want to buy new.

[@NeoDon1]

HELL NO! LOTUS DIES AFTER THIS WATCH.

[@Shakham09]

Just wondering…could you not have leveraged the lemon law?

[@dylannipple]

I started the process but they bought it off me at a better price then just returning it.

[@the_OCD_Garage]

How did you got the rebate if you needed to trade in a “sports car” and you had a Supra ? 😅

[@dylannipple]

I traded in the 2020 BMW supra. They counted it as a sports car.

[@logwind]

Wow that is terrible. Sorry this happened to you.

[@oliverranderson9292]

Should have got an elise, its common knowledge in lotus community the evora and emira have been plagued with issues mostly relating to electrical and Fit and Finish. But some Creaks and rattles are to be expected with lotus ownership as they are handmade small volume cars

[@fzr1000981]

Some poor sap will buy this and then stumble onto the video

[@dylannipple]

Haha 😂hopefully he buys the extended warranty!!!

[@stephanieshaw3830]

Maybe you can get another one after a few years.

[@bboixtc]

Guess this means you won't be at LOG this year in Austin! 😭

[@dylannipple]

No sadly! I will eventually get another Lotus.

[@davidpereira9058]

You got sold a shitbox.. jesus.. did you not have a 1 year warrentee.. dealer should've had to buy it back.

[@MrCynical999]

Lot Of Trouble Until Sold still holds true for this brand.

[@rlaw22]

Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious

[@dylannipple]

😅 Should have taken that as a clue when purchasing!

[@t.y.l.e.r34]

Brooo didn't know you had a KZbin ... u sound so sad at the beginning 😔

[@t.y.l.e.r34]

Yo let me get one of those boards

[@Athithan_2000]

Dublin, Ireland🇮🇪?

[@dylannipple]

🇺🇸

[@nicolibe4766]

Get a Lexus LC 500

[@etilhcir4645]

WOW JUNK CAR,,,,Thanks for this video ,,,,this is no longer my dream car . Think ill stick with my Cayman

[@dailytherapy7597]

Meh. This isn’t representative of all lotus owners. I’ve known cayman owners with larger issues . Dylan certainly had a lemon but when i bought mine i had read some horror stories and plenty of good stories. I wasn’t scared at all .

[@etilhcir4645]

@@dailytherapy7597 Fair enough ,,,I do love the styling .

[@luxuriousmindset1906]

I love in Ohio

[@MrTonifumi]

British quality 😅

[@dylannipple]

Right!

[@NeverHaveKids]

Sir, please, pick up a Lexus, Toyota, or Honda. Camry XSE is an incredible car, the gas mileage is off-the-hook good. Nice silent ride, and you're likely to have a decade or more of trouble-free operation. Look at Toyota Crown, those cars have very nice interiors and are worth the premium. Lexus and Honda have some excellent sedans that cost a fraction of these "supercar" shitboxes. I hope you heed this advice. Once you get something reliable and quiet, you'll never go back.

[@dylannipple]

Lol 😂

[@NeverHaveKids]

@@dylannipple Why laugh? Giving you good advice.

[@dylannipple]

@@NeverHaveKids first off your name is the best advice! 2nd those make great daily drivers but boring.

[@NeverHaveKids]

@@dylannipple Agree. But I've got a few years on you. My advice: learn to love boring *early* in your life. The money you're going to spend on a BMW, Vette, or Audi? Invest it. Buy a CD. Buy a dividend fund. Put it in a balanced index fund. In a few short years, you'll realize how important this advice is. And to a person, anyone who blew money on overpriced cars really regrets it as they get older. They would much rather have passive income, versus a rapidly depreciating automobile. Best of luck.

[@shieric123]

great video, will not be buying this british junk lol

[@dylannipple]

It is definitely a challenging vehicle genre to deal with.

[@t.y.l.e.r34]

L-O-T-U-S lots of troubles under suspicion