WHY India Can NEVER Grow Like China

[@User-nw37]

Indians should spend less time, energy and emotions on China and instead focus more on developing India.

[@existentialbaby]

most Indians like me are unemployed so we waste time on internet and vent our frustration on china and Pakistan 😢😢😢😢😢

[@zak992]

@@existentialbaby Nice !

[@raymonddon8875]

india talks very big, china makes very big things happen.

[@damnsonofabitchusa5695]

All eintians do is all talk No work done

[@damnsonofabitchusa5695]

​@@existentialbabyinstead you should go stick your kok into any holes you come across....you should not even spare the key holes in your doors

[@annonygui5513]

Because the culture in India is more talking about what they want to achieve rather than taking the action to actually achieve the goal.

[@martinvanburen4578]

yes the Chinese achieved it by turning against the Soviets, creating mass sweatshops, stealing American tech. It should be honest how China gained it's growth.

[@juhantoon6524]

Well at least they have achieved one that out beat China : Their News Media or even their politicians. They have learned well from their past colonial master and have mastered the English language to be able to tell anything whether it is the truth or lies with a straight face. Dont think China can ever outdo them in this area.

[@ncchew3356]

​@@juhantoon6524Mastered the language? Speaking English with an unpleasant Indian accent and moving the head violently.

[@Gareeb1997]

The culture in India is not to eat dog meat or bat soup or egg boiled in virgin boy's pee

[@annonygui5513]

@@juhantoon6524 being able to speak English itself doesn't do any good for India's prosperity if those English speakers can't find a job. Plus, only 30% of Indians can actually speak English... so to say Indians in general have mastered English is a big stretch.

[@pgdog888]

I'm Chinese. Culture is the difference. We Chinese are all equal. But india castle system is killing them.

[@user-um7tw6kx4r6]

they will never get rid of it, because the people who benefit from it don't want a more equal society.

[@OhnanaWhatsmyname-dh8wc]

Corruption is killing them

[@VinodBandari-ps5yd]

​@@user-um7tw6kx4r6its governments job to bring equality inthe society but for last 70 years government has only aggravated indias caste division further😢

[@greenscenery1974]

Diversity destroys a nation. China is homogeneous, so it's easy to get along. India worship idols, Chinese don't. Simple

[@youmemeyou]

​@@OhnanaWhatsmyname-dh8wcyou're lyin'!

[@nargisrajabick8308]

America does without thinking, India thinks without doing! China does both!

[@realnapster1522]

Chinese communists are good at propaganda.

[@Truthseeker580]

Explain how Americans do with out thinking?......or is these one of those stupid phrases people pull out of thier arses😂😂

[@aarthirajaraman7453]

China's bias is wild, as if Xi Xin Ping gave birth to u or something

[@ninjapirate123]

hahaha

[@FootballFanatic720]

@@ninjapirate123 is this how Paj

[@JulesSch1]

After working with both Indians and Chinese in Australia, I can say the Chinese are more precise in their work, cleaner.. for example if a rubbish bin is full in the staff room the indians will keep piling rubbish in it with rubbish falling all over the floor instead of emptying the trash and putting a new garbage bag in it. If mistakes are made in the production line the indian's will not worry about it even if the products we manufacture are not to standard, where as the Chinese will not accept this. So just from what I have seen I can say that the Chinese have a lot higher standards and personal conviction which make them a far superior civilisation.

[@Fastbenefits-y4p]

True

[@IndiaKaput]

Absolutely agree

[@SRRMCS]

why dont you throw the rubbish out dear

[@tonyding8465]

@@SRRMCS everyone should be response for it's own erea.

[@sridharannarasimhan4916]

Hmmm. Truth is bitter, but we have to swallow. What's your company? I want to serve you for a week, totally free, just to salvage our name. 😢

[@jonaafr]

Before anything else just check out both countries. China is extremely clean, orderly and good working ethics. Everything in China are orderly, every city are clean and spotless, their internal transportation system is top notch. When one fly into Mumbai, on landing the stench is nauseating, the noise is so horribly that it will break your ear drums, the roads are so dirty with cows roaming freely everywhere (abide religious purpose). India is the worst scam country in the world, all scam call centers originated in India. Corruption and theft are beyond believe. Corrupted govt officials is probably the worst in the world, worst than in Africa.

[@firdausidris6367]

Been there once, never again. Horn sounds every seconds, dried feces everywhere, building wall smells like urine, I'm talking about their city's posh area here, not some village.

[@ran6009]

@@firdausidris6367 Been where once? Are you talking about SF, LA, Philadephia... and hundreds of other towns and cities of the USA. Where thousands of homeless people literaly live on the sidewalks. Drugged up, sick...

[@laowantongchau]

@@oop1944 Lol,.. one of the main problems is deeply worshipping religions. 😏

[@jacklouie8096]

Very good comment

[@tonywinata3835]

I agree 👍 10000000%

[@tattoistdeep3108]

I traveled China recently India will never be able to reach at the position where china stands untill Indian government don’t take the issue of delopment seriously

[@armaanshah7937]

Brahmins did more harm to india by making up stories in the name of God and legitimizing it😅

[@silverrajat13]

Monkey king from the journey to west talking lol

[@sumitsinghalag]

I don't understand why are indians getting offended, yes we are facing these issues and what has been said is right. The questions is wether we are ready to overcome these issues and make our country shine.

[@vikaswanchoo8593]

Coz it's not so simple and black and white. China is a hard-core communist country. India is not a communist country, even if the government in power wants to do something for the betterment, organisations from around the world will come to stop it even though they don't know anything about India or what it is they are opposing. Take Kashmir for example. If it was China.. they would have resolved the Kashmir issue by doing all necessary actions needed to resolve the issue at hand but here we are playing proxy war with ISI and Pakistan since ages and it will go on.

[@vikaswanchoo8593]

It's very easy to point fingers at others without knowing the actual problem. People like Lee Kuan know that they are talking about when it comes to geopolitics.

[@prantosarathy386]

​@@vikaswanchoo8593well said

[@prantosarathy386]

We don't want others to validate us that's it

[@vikaswanchoo8593]

@@prantosarathy386 thanks 👍

[@summmmmmable]

The British went into China, they only took Hong Kong but the India was colonized for over 200 years! Chinese are resilient and want to have its own way! 5000 years of civilization is not just a myth! 😂

[@davidz7858]

But, British left 87 years ago, and China only took last 40 years to make really development, so India has enough time to develop, but not done well.

[@vikramgurung3043]

@@summmmmmable now that's past now here we are to stay . Your discussion explain you are frightened. 😁 Happy..

[@BatCountryAdventures]

​@@davidz7858Yeah, if India had what it takes then we would be talking about how China can catch up India and not the other way around.

[@Muhd_Aziz-x6950]

​​​​@@davidz7858 not really but what British done with Indian system is mass destruction it take it's own time pace to recovery India as ancient civilizations from such a strong industrial nations for thousands of years who do trade with rest of the world even the Chinese ancient dynasties look up on India success during that time everything just ruined by turning our country to dirty, pollution and poverty by British government invasion to our greatest civilizations... British also steal all of the our intellectual property like science, medical and mathematics from our hindu civilizations. Infact the British is have no gut to fought a war with Indian kings and dynasties what they do it's just playing with the victims card.. so Start acting like they just came to India to do business like they started the East India British company we give place for them to live in our land in the beginning but thn later On they begin to invade our land by betrayed us... all is possible simply because we feel pity for them. they also hide all their genocide from our history text book next sure indian won't wake up what they done to India far more worst thn what nazi done to Jews... That is the reason why we can't and shouldn't trust British sentiments

[@Xind0898]

@@davidz7858 British left, but the rent seeking imcubent system they left behind, is still here today

[@wangjim5839]

China may take 3 or more years to build a big bridge India probably take more than 3 years debating on whether to build the bridge and then another 3 years on who should be building it.

[@Korukum-h3w]

@wangjim5839 seems like a good strategy to me to avoid get-rich-quick groups like above talking heads in the video.

[@aarthirajaraman7453]

Chinese username checks out. India is set to finish projects started in 2023 and 2022 in the coming 2 years

[@pumuemj3201]

​@@aarthirajaraman7453no it is a reality.. don't really know about other states but it is happening in our state 😓

[@kharkanas6779]

That's democracy for you.

[@aarthirajaraman7453]

@@pumuemj3201 which state are u in? Most projects here take like 2-3 years like for the expressways, high speed railway, IT parks and etc.

[@hemantthorat3691]

The biggest barrier to Indias growth is Democracy. There are more than 40 languages , half a dozen religions , all different standards of people, different cultural backgrounds , different values , different skin colors , north vs south, east vs west .......India is not a country , It's a whole different World in itself. It's like combining middle east, Europe and africa together into one country and then installing democracy over it.

[@Russo2024Zir]

Human overpopulation is the root cause of the tragedy in India. Not to mention a host of other socioeconomic problems we face today. In 1947, the population of India was close to 320 million. India has added another 800+ million since then. And somehow, magically, its citizens expect a supply system that periodically adjusts to a large population's demand for goods and services. China is the only country on the same scale and has done better at achieving order/governance. But, then again, they have earned it by brute force. Not to mention all the industrial activity has resulted in large-scale environmental damage - water/air/soil for which we will pay sooner or later. In comparison, the population of the U.S in 2021 is close to 330 million. The total land area is about 3.5 times that is of India, and an economy that is many times bigger. Picture India in 2021 if it were around 500/550 million people.

[@mrwilloughby8684]

That's because it was the British that united India into a country, not Indians. If colonisation didn't happen, there wouldn't be an India but several smaller but more internally cohesive states.

[@PushpPatel832]

you are confused between diversity and democracy

[@Curiosity403]

​@@PushpPatel832 No he is correct. We Indians hate our current condition but we also oppose people who try to change

[@hatimhobo204]

Civilized or human act krne me koi ye cultural diversity rok tu h kya, koi kisi bhi religion ka ho language bolta ho kuch farq nhi padna chahiye

[@hellinckey]

80% of the indian economy is due to 20% skilled and educated workforce

[@arcsaber1127]

Like everywhere else

[@amirillodude]

yes, pareto's law at work!

[@timbaktuu9845]

In India even a guy scoring 40 percent can attend some college.After that he starts to prepare for gormint job and cries that gov is at fault

[@Papaty25]

​@@timbaktuu9845 why did the college give him a degree if he wasn't worthy in the first place? Isn't that the fault of the education system?🤔

[@LiberTeaBag]

80-20 rule 20% efforts = 80% results

[@pohkhui]

One of the very critical things about China rise is “women lift the other half of the sky” . The woman power, break away from the old traditional mindset

[@JKTProductionzIncNCo]

Which hasn't been a good thing for the Orientals or Europeans.

[@51lkyw4y]

Indians rarely compare themselves to Chinese, Americans, or any other country, etc.; instead, it is primarily Chinese bots, and the reason for this is fear over the C+1 strategy used by many businesses. Because of this, businesses are now searching outside of China for investment possibilities. As a result, these individuals attempt to construct arguments out of seemingly random statements. The two so-called experts in the video both made obvious mistakes and lacked subject matter expertise. I could paraphrase the CEO of JP Morgan, Jamie Dimon (total assets: $4 trillion); India has an incredible infrastructure and education system, and the USA needs a leader like Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi. Does that imply that US policymakers should take a cue from India? As an Indian, I disagree; India's infrastructure is still behind other countries, despite improvements, and the country's educational system is not particularly good. I could make ten or more such statements. If India is not suitable for investment, why are Chinese companies vying for it and getting upset when proposals are rejected by the Indian government???????.......

[@shanewilson2484]

Bwa ha ha ha. What proportion of the politburo are women? Use some brain cells.

[@poisonhand8078]

In some less developed places of China, the social status of women is still lower than men and male babies are often preferred than female babies.

[@SampadMohanty7]

Do you know the long term cnseuences of those policies after 5 decades? Their birth rates are plummeting, cheating is rampant, they will sell their morals for any amount of money. You want to get that kind of economy y sacrificing values and culture?

[@desmondho9567]

Don't say that, please, that India can never grow like China. Palki Sharma will be very very very sad and disappointed.😢😢😢😢😢

[@pausereflect5911]

@@desmondho9567 Well that woman would put CHINA IN HER PLACE! She'd be perfect for the job. She did for the UK and with a straight face. 😂😂

[@KayyHong]

Palki ONLY reads from the script given to her.

[@strongchallenger2269]

I have never heard of Palki Sharma however I have heard of Porky Sharma

[@pausereflect5911]

@@KayyHong No she doesn't! That's WHY you know her. She'd do a fine job on CHINA. I bet she does ALREADY.

[@pausereflect5911]

@@strongchallenger2269 😂😂 She MUST be burning you for her to get a nick name. Good for her!

[@limhockbeng5745]

One thing lndia can overtake China its population 😂

[@VinayakKumar-kq3ex]

Already done it 🥴

[@RaviSharma-fc2xy]

And crimes, poverty, corruption, jingoism, and laziness.

[@sureshgopalakrishnan9732]

@@RaviSharma-fc2xy Chinese disguised as indian. My foot

[@RaviSharma-fc2xy]

@@sureshgopalakrishnan9732 Kya matlab? Agar koi Indian Sach Bodega tu tum usko Chinese bol doge? Chinese don't care much about India.

[@REACTION-V-9]

​@@RaviSharma-fc2xychina care about india ok whatsapp university 😂😂

[@anxskhxn]

I'm an Indian and I couldn't agree more! Most of my friends whom are so blinded by the pseudo nationalism get so annoyed when i give them this reality check...some even go on to call me "anti-national" LOL which has become so common for anyone to hear who disagree with these group of Indians and their "favourite" politicians in the ruling government.

[@devpradhan3307]

65 years of development vs 10 years of discrimination (you're one of those self proclaimed educated secular right😂? Just choose a better Govt and make it strong Or Democracy vs one ruling party

[@anxskhxn]

​​​​​@@devpradhan3307 I equally despise the leftwing because i'm a centrist and a bit right leaning (pro-capitalism) and always hated their socialist policies... What i'm saying is India still has a long way to go before it can even think of comparing itself with china comprehensively because a lot of right wing nationalist like you (probably) live in your own blissful ignorance (like the americans & europeans used to, underestimating china until they got a reality check) that India will be a "superpower" in next few decades and it's not very hard to compete with china... You guys don't even know how far china is of india in its capabilities and we still have a lot to catch up...(Read the book "The Stealth War") As for the current govt., i don't specifically "hate" them...I just don't like their approach to ruling (spreading communal hatred & lack of accountability to blame everything on left wing..) which is not good for us in the long term and can lead to severe internal conflicts... The difference between us and the chinese is they are a VERY UNIFIED nation whereas we're fighting among ourselves and that's what we should strive to become...(Although i agree the current govt. has tried doing it but we have some clown in the left wing so) We can be a democracy while striving to become unified... Also, The current govt. has done a great job in foreign policy and economic liberation so my stand with them there...I believe Modi is what Deng Xiaoping was to China...

[@santheepnair5470]

People like you are main problem

[@santheepnair5470]

​@@devpradhan3307Lee khan yew clearly says people like him are the real problem but he won't listen to Lee khan yew and only listen to Nehru

[@onlypatel8297]

True bhakts are happy in virtual Disneyland

[@ShealaChan]

There are 56 ethnic groups in China, all speaking and writing in their own dialects, but all also speaking and writing Mandarin as the unifying means of communication. All groups are thriving! All can engage in online selling and buying and they all have something unique to sell!

[@francisteo1967]

@@ShealaChan Then why got educational camps?

[@Anakborneo-nh7nh]

​@@francisteo1967 education camps for those islamic radicals which caused problems in the early days

[@dons6556]

@@francisteo1967another brainwashed person by CIA MI6, go and visit China

[@bldomain]

@@francisteo1967 Hey Teo what educational camps? This is not the Cultural revolution and Great leap era , my non friend.Get some education on China and do some research.

[@jordanbekale1504]

​@@francisteo1967 China respects diversity as long as it does not ruin the harmony of society, yes, you can have a different culture but if you preach separatism and division the government will not hesitate for a single second to destroy you or re-educate, they prefer to maintain public order to the detriment of individual or ethnic freedoms. And this is what happened with certain Hyugurs who got a little too close to the radical Islam practiced in Afghanistan. Preachers from neighboring Arab countries came to impose Sharia in the region of China bordering the Afghanistan, after the increase in attacks, the power in place took radical measures such as re-education camps.

[@RoseRose-gk6ku]

Chinese has high IQ & EQ, work hard & work smart, international standard of the education system especially the Chinese university, good health care, business minded, business friendly environment, etc.

[@shinobi2119]

Basically the opposite of blacks.

[@chirusikar]

But anti western

[@rezag8369]

High IQ maybe but not high EQ. Even high IQ limited by lack of innovation. That’s why they have to always copy technology from the west

[@sinpoke-f7n]

​@@chirusikarIn fact, Western countries have been imposing sanctions on China

[@Leila-sd1sl]

@@chirusikar- it is the other way around. The west is anti-China or anti-nonwest. These non-western countries they cozy up with is because these countries can still be a useful idiot. India should know better since they were colonized over 300 years.

[@chonghann8859]

Religion also one of the issues. India really need an evolution.

[@somsatxayalat]

Social class is the main issues the Indians face. The law stated all people in India must be treat equally, but the people keep on practicing. Untouchable people's class is the lowest of the class that most India try to avoid talking to, working for, no touching hands Etc.

[@stevenlai1199]

​@@somsatxayalatJai hind

[@breathephysics104]

Exactly.

[@saurabhsinghrawat4292]

Well i don't think it's an issue now because nowadays these things have been changed people have came out of this mentality they work together they eat together I am not ignoring yes it was too much but i think now it's very less and i think after some years it will go away ​@@somsatxayalat

[@eafna23fc55]

没有用，人种不行

[@rkruata4116]

I am an Indian and I approved of this 100%

[@Kalidas-5]

The Indian political system is very bad. There should have been a two-party political system in India.

[@hyp3842]

Be ready to be called anti-nationalist

[@jc9109]

Chinese have higher IQ, faster thinkers. Innovative, smart people.

[@pausereflect5911]

Compared to who? You're people just like other people. Next you'll be telling us your yellow skin gives you superpowers and supremacy. Away with your idiocy.

[@smNimeth]

That's not true. All Human Beings are Equally capable. Then how come Some Black People in USA like Neil De Grease Tyson and Candice Owens and Thomas Sowell, are so smart, so intelligent. That doesn't make any sense. If you think Chinese or Any East Asian are born naturally smarter than everyone else, That's just the model minority myth which White Supremisy has fooled you into believe. If what you are saying is correct, then India / Sri Lanka and Pakistan should be First World Countries by now, since they are also " The Aryan Race " people. Just as the White People. I think, Currupted political leaders and Religious issues like divisions between Muslims and Hindus or Aryans vs Dravidians, these divisions is what's holding South Asia from developing. Yes! I'm a Indo-Aryan Sri Lankan 🇱🇰 and I'm Stupid, Right? According to your thinking. Oh please! Just because some people voted for idiots in the government positions. Doesn't make everyone in that country are stupid too. Maybe you should educated yourself and not being a racist towards others. I've seen how Chinese restaurants treated people like trash, just because of the their ethnicity being different.

[@Parash221]

Also educated.

[@amoghars]

BS. India innovated supercomputers to rocket launchers when west didn’t share the technology. Your high IQ Chinese steal and replicate everything from West. 😂

[@orangkampung1048]

As a Malaysian..I agree...

[@AndroidTheLeader]

Caste discrimination is prohibited by the Constitution of India, but practised by the political parties in India. Language chauvinism is also encouraged by regional political parties. India is a faulty democracy.

[@dinesh6489]

Typical akand bhakth comments 🤦🤦

[@dinesh6489]

What do u want to learn in South and North East India? India should be compared with European countries. Each state is a country itself. Decentralisation of the power to State, Panchayat and Municipal corporations. Instead of one fool sitting in Delhi decide what I have to eat in down south.

[@purudutta2682]

i am an indian from bangalore, which is the shitiest silicon valley ever. indias infrastructure sucks. i completely agree, its the collective indian culture which will never let India grow as collective culture stops people from new ideas

[@Fastbenefits-y4p]

Yes

[@adityaiyer3250]

True puru. I live in Bangalore

[@HWDragonborn]

China has a collective culture too, this is what allows China to grow.

[@indoroyale7848]

I feel like crying when it comes to our infrastructure. Even when there are efforts to improve infrastructure such as the roads . It would no sooner than a day before they destroy it to rectify electric cables and instead of coordinating they do whenever they so feel like it . Lingerajpuram ,Hebbal Nagwara are packed to the brim when it comes to mismanagement of traffic and every road is pitted with holes .

[@samnass]

​​@HWDragonborn China created a new collective culture , India didn't. I think he meant the entirety by "collective " .

[@msel04]

When modi speaks in hindi in parliament..hardly anyone in state of Tamil Nadu understands it and vice-versa

[@IndiaKaput]

That's correct. Modi has to speak in many other Indian languages. Even when he speaks Hindi, suppose to the majority language, only 35% understands. When the president of China speaks Mandarin, 90% of Chinese understands. From : Singapore 🇸🇬

[@uurk5lo4]

So what? Is that the reason for poor education? Or poor governance?!! What's language for to do with above?!!!

[@yogeshshringarpure5318]

All states shall see that Hindi is a unique language which needs to be understood by everyone despite the mother tongue or state language. That will solve the issue

[@foodfoodies3764]

😂

[@IndiaKaput]

@@yogeshshringarpure5318 Tell that to non Hindi in India

[@user-wo1c4ar0ng]

people average IQ china 105 vs india 76. this makes a big difference.

[@guangxidavidliu]

lack in 2 standard deviations. 30 points.

[@juanyaohuang8125]

Are you Chinese?

[@totzinfo]

India has too many illiterates, slum areas and poorest of the poor

[@AvogadroAvogadro]

IQ measurements are lies.

[@timothychung4811]

India, as we know now, is a new country like the US. The people that lives in India were originally part of many nations that were gobbled up by the British empire; these people and there heritages are as ancient as the Chinese. IF INDIA WAS AN OLD NATION, MODI WOULD NOT BE CALLED PRIMINISTER, BUT HE WOUD BE CALLED "PRESIDENT".

[@greatlakes7942]

There is a Chinese saying that fits India exactly: bride in dreams, bridemaid in reality

[@ArunChauhan-rt3un]

China became china by becoming a cheap Factory for the west. Since that phase is over. It is just a matter of time when you start seeing the downfall.

[@enennam93]

Caste system he perfectly mentioned. 10 percent upper caste want rule 90 percent people. Stupids.

[@ArunChauhan-rt3un]

@@greatlakes7942 Hope you have taken approval of CCP before posting this message. We don't need to do that. .....

[@alex0315]

​@@ArunChauhan-rt3un It's called VPN

[@FootballFanatic720]

@@ArunChauhan-rt3un shut up Rajput !

[@mrfoo5827]

Watching from Singapore..100% true ..

[@raymonddon8875]

my friends at usa, france, brazil & mexico watching too - 100% true!

[@tanchye1720]

Caste mentality one of the reason stifles India’s progress. Liken to Religious mentality stifles our neighbour’s progress…and India as well.

[@raymonddon8875]

@@tanchye1720 yup 1720

[@יונהאליראשון]

Prove that you are from Singapore? Lol.

[@יונהאליראשון]

Proof?😂

[@sidharthshivappa1359]

China is 300 years ahead of India

[@IndiaKaput]

Absolutely agree

[@soochongkeat4816]

Sadly India is not the next China. So there is no need for comparison.

[@Korukum-h3w]

@sidharthshivappa1359 Usually, thieves are ahead of police, eventually get surfaced.

[@Korukum-h3w]

@soochongkeat4816 Don't be sad. No other country wants to be corona-ina.

[@rahuljha3462]

Fact

[@twilight6460]

The next "China" is still China From : Singapore 🇸🇬

[@Korukum-h3w]

@twilight6460 Yeah, definitely no country wants that title from you as a suckessor.

[@IndiaKaput]

@twilight6460 Very true. Martin Jacques : The next "China" is still China From : Singapore 🇸🇬

[@Korukum-h3w]

@twilight6460 is very true. No country ( including india) wants to take credit for corona/ covid and cheap plastic.

[@FootballFanatic720]

@@IndiaKaput But , it would be better if India became the next "Soviet Union of 1990" , hope it will be peaceful than the "Yugoslavia of 1992".

[@dtvind]

Singapore is new china

[@adriansaftoiu]

Yess, true, India will never had same growth because of the social system: India based on casts and, hence, elites, meanwhile China social Is based on common good, the collaboration between members of the society is a lot better

[@asingh7608]

Go to the Inner city’s of China. 😅😂

[@יונהאליראשון]

Coming from an average westerner who knows nothing about the reality. See that video by dw news on youtube recently about China's bonded labour, a documentary. Ignoring that means you have been brainwashed by propaganda which this channel spreads. Regarding castes? I think you should check the out the latest issues India has with castes. It's completely opposite of what you think. Lower castes are now the elites and they have an upper hand because the government jobs, institutions have seats reserved for them+ they can compete for the seats which the general ones that is upper or middle castes compete for. They are now the majority in the politics and government. They are the elites not upper castes anymore.

[@יונהאליראשון]

You have literally no idea of caste issue in India presently. It's completely the opposite. Today it's the lower castes who have the upper hand because of the reservation system in government jobs and institutions. Yes because there was a documentary on bonded labour in China by Dw News recently released on youtube. Moreover channels like Serpentza, Iaowhy 86, China Observer shows why China should be compared with first world countries.

[@MonuKumar44444]

We are Indians too don't speak if you don't know visit villages first then say anything ​@@יונהאליראשון

[@maotsetung243]

​​@@יונהאליראשוןThere is dowry and there is male child preference.There is a random asking of someones gotra.As long as India have caste system india will never be able to beat China.

[@dexterdr.7020]

I'm Chinese and i HATE this kind of discrimination against a group of people. China used to be the victim and I can not bare seeing this happening to others. India will have its glory. be patient and be hard working.

[@PasscodeAdvance]

Thank you so much, I'm sure we will find a way. It will take more time for us but I don't know if India can even fix it's problems. Being an Indian I'm worried but hopeful

[@cinefile0075]

It's coz you are not living in India. India has hosts of societal and cultural problems. Caste system, religious conflicts, patriarchy (half of the work force women are domesticated). TBH I am not hopeful at all. It will take centuries to be even near to today's China economy...

[@kylemaolinson9417]

尼玛这年头还有印吹

[@dexterdr.7020]

@@kylemaolinson9417 请详细说明我吹印度什么了，你们能不能发明一点新词、不要老像复读机一样

[@kylemaolinson9417]

@@dexterdr.7020 说错了。您不是印吹 是传播大爱。高尚。

[@orobleh77]

I agree with you that India lags behind China in economic development. In my experience, I have seen both Indian and Chinese business. The Indian business thinks short-term and charges more, while the Chinese business wants you to keep you as customer for the long haul. Secondly, in general, Chinese are more honest than Indians. Thirdly, Chinese are more hardworking than Indians.

[@handaxia1251]

not true..If China is the what you stated it, it would never allow home industry products with shoddy quality, counterfeited goods, fakes to flood the world..that, in my dictionary, is not keeping customer for the long haul. Because of this, China earned the name as the country of junk products. Genshin impact was made to look like Japanese anime games, Miniso with Japanese character on the logo, intentionally to make people think that it is a Japanese shop for quality assurance. Do all these sound like honest to you? Prove me wrong!

[@deeptelstra7943]

@@orobleh77 Correct , you cannot trust if the work gets done in India especially with the govt systems, you can just take 0 probability unless you invest most of your money and time.

[@horridohobbies]

India has to overcome several major challenges: 1. A largely ineffective democratic government. Overbearing bureaucracy and regulations are a major problem. It is also unfriendly to foreign businesses. 2. Low labor force participation for women. 3. Cultural disunity and ethnic strife. Hindu nationalism is a major problem. 4. Low literacy. 5. Poor infrastructure. The dubious quality of new infrastructure construction is a major problem. 6. Human rights issues are rife. 7. The caste system is a significant obstacle. 8. Weak health care. I can't see this happening.

[@brianliew5901]

You left out freeloading mentality which is an Indian's forte. 😂😂😂😂

[@mateusmahumane8990]

The story of Rabbit and Tortoise apply here. India may surprise the nay sayers

[@ericwong4213]

India: 1 super billionaire, 1 billion dirt poor. China: 1 billion middle income, few billionaire. Media: 1 of top 10 richest in the world is Indian. INDIA WIN AGAINST CHINA!!!!

[@stevenlai1199]

​@@mateusmahumane8990JAI HIND

[@brianliew5901]

@@mateusmahumane8990 India was never a united country.

[@joey3291]

In China, we also have different languages but all schools use Mandarin, which makes all children fluent in a common language and they can work in any place in the country when grow up.

[@davidz7858]

You have different dialects, not different languages, you messed up dialects and languages.

[@ymhktravel]

@@davidz7858 They do have different languages. Cantonese is one language different from Mandarin, and is regarded internationally as another language though it uses the same chinese characters. Mongolian, Tibetan and Uyghur are languages different from Mandarin both in verbal and written. Other languages in China include Kazakh, Korean among many others. However, all these different ethnicities learn Mandarin or they call it "Putonghua" in China as the main language of communication nationally and for business.

[@joey3291]

@@davidz7858 Uygurs, Tibetan, Canotonese, Mindanhua, Kejiahua. They are very different from the mandarin dialects.

[@laowantongchau]

@@ymhktravel No it's not. Cantonese is middle Chinese. The written characters are the same.

[@ymhktravel]

@@laowantongchau It doesn't matter whether it's Middle or fucking chinese. If the international organisation lists Cantonese as a language (thought it shares chinese characters as mandarin), then it's considered a language, not a dialect.

[@curiosity465]

National average IQ of India = 77. National average IQ of China = 105.

[@brucewayne-rq7gy]

Why are u so obsessed with iq and it's all incentives that make a country developed

[@brucewayne-rq7gy]

India had time to become a developed country but there where no bold , educated and idealistic politician like lew kyan yew to come up forward to do so

[@curiosity465]

@@brucewayne-rq7gy To become an advanced country, the national average IQ should be 99-100. India with a pathetic average IQ of 77 stands no chance.

[@curiosity465]

@@brucewayne-rq7gy Name 1 developed nation in the average IQ range of 77 - 80?

[@curiosity465]

@@brucewayne-rq7gy Name 1 developed country with an average IQ in the range 75-80.

[@onerycool]

I am from India and truly admit China is light years ahead of us. According to me there are 3 major problems why we are behind. 1. Bad government policies that is corruption, too much bureaucracy especially this current Modi/BJP government trying to divide the country on the basis of religion. 2. Lack of education, civics sense and lack of skilled labour and work ethics. 3. Quota system with a high population, lack of incentives and job opportunities.

[@jetli740]

2 more missing.... 4) caste system- this will hinder some of indian brightest mind to use to it full potential 5) religion - indian devote too much resource worship gods which bring zero benefit to anyone

[@Lav-v9c]

Its the people not the politicians. People elect the politicians not the other way around

[@onerycool]

@@Lav-v9c I completely agree with you masses are asses. Regardless when it comes to the main difference between China and India it comes down to leadership. China is bearing the fruits of great leadership by Deng Xiaoping who made bold moves and opened the Chinese economy. India too had great leaders like P.V. Narasimha Rao and Manmohan Singh unfortunately they both had coalition governments and did not have long enough tenures to completely implement their visions. This current Narinder BJP government was given a thumping mandate both in 2014 and 2019 with clear majorities, they could have accomplished anything and made structural changes to the economy. Instead of propaganda such as good governance, removing unnecessary bureaucracy, smart cities, bullet trains, sab ka saath sabka vikas, startup India, make in India, This PRime minister Narinder and (B.J.P) turned out to be complete frauds. He only has Muslim, Mutton, Mangalsutra and Mujhra in his heart. This will be remembered as the lost decade of our great nation. It is sad we could have at least closed the gap with China economically instead the gap has widened even more. Until we have structural changes in the economy starting with education, infrastructure, two child policy (reduction in population), removal of quota system, removal of income tax, incentives for companies to open factories in India and creating jobs, opening of technical schools/colleges to develop skilled labour, removal of all freebies, extensive financial and taxation help to Indian companies and most importantly improvement in judiciary and execution for the safety of citizens and companies alike nothing really is going to propel us to complete with China or for that case any of the top Asian economies.

[@LokeKS]

so why do you have bad government? isn't democracy suppose to solve that problem?

[@onerycool]

@@LokeKS just because we have a bad government doesn't mean democracy is bad. The whole of the West have democracies and are doing very well. Our nation will take time but improve it will and as of today China is way ahead of us, but 100 years from now who knows India may be the country the world looks to.

[@donvongprachanh1484]

America will never let you pass them and this is why India need to stick with BRICS and don't be two face.

[@boli1435]

I truly hope India will withdraw from BRICS.

[@leekim8911]

Indians pray at the Temple of Janus

[@gumonmyshu]

@@boli1435 Replace India with Indonesia, that way the acronym will stay the same.

[@temujinborjikin7223]

@@gumonmyshu 🤣

[@Gareeb1997]

Lol, we will do what we want.... USA and Cryna both are the same to us anyway....

[@James-mc5hc]

Accurate statement reflected in almost every foreign investment.

[@mons911]

Democracy can only thrive with a period of 300 years and looted resources. India should follow the Chinese system rather than a Western democratic model.

[@yoingen]

China has been unified for thousands of years, but it has been weak for 200 years in modern times. After regaining its strength, it can quickly return to its previous state.India was a country that was unified only during the British colonial period. India used to be just a regional term like Africa. The diversity they claim is further evidence that the region has no consistent values, worldview and history. Modi hopes to develop the concept of "Indian nation" by consolidating Hinduism. However, premature “democratization” of India will always be divisive.

[@sootuckchoong7077]

Modi only wants Hindus to be in India. Others are not welcome.

[@timothychung4811]

Using different puzzles to to build a puzzle picture usually don't quite reach the optimum success.

[@asingh7608]

Have you seen the ancient Chinese map. TIBET was not part of China. Unified my A_S. 😅😂

[@yoingen]

@@asingh7608 When Mongolia invaded China, Mongolia was not Chinese land. When Manchuria invaded China, Manchuria was not Chinese land. what do you want to say? In the mid-13th century, Tibet was officially included in the territory of China's Yuan Dynasty. Tibet has always been a highly autonomous region. If you understand China this way, then the current Indian government has even less legal rights.

[@asingh7608]

@@yoingen India is not interested in Tibet. Tibet was a separate state by it self not part of China.

[@sunnywu2464]

In China, many children go to nursery schools at the age of 2, most go to kindergartens at 4, 100% go to primary and secondary schools at 6 or 7. I don't know what is the case in India. I think that makes a big difference.

[@Srivicky0212]

In India also same .. But quality of education matter.. in china govt focus on schools with quality and giving free education with common local language But in india there are different states.. for example: if you take south india which is more developed than any other part of India has 5 different states each with different languages one state people can’t understand other state people language. So common language is English But in north india Hindi is major language everyone speaks, but in south India no one speak hindi .all local state government in south india are providing free education, but parents wants to send their children to private schools by paying so much amount to get good education in English medium Now a days most of the government schools are providing English medium education as well So in short language also playing major role to decide the people future india

[@maotsetung243]

Indian public education system is a disaster.India only took all the bad parts of democracy and all the bad parts of Capitalism.India is a self centred society.

[@maotsetung243]

​​@@Srivicky0212shut go to China once and you'll know where you stand.

[@simple17226]

Why lying BJP supporter I'm an Indian it is not the case quality of education is 1 thing but poor people do not even afford education and some even prefer not to go majority of students are in government schools and only have knowledge about Hindi which might be problem when work in foreign​@@Srivicky0212

[@pumuemj3201]

In India.. poverty forces many children into manual labour..and they can't even really afford education..this is the reality in many places...

[@saehian]

China don't discriminate other races. Even different speaking language, verbally don't work, just write out Chinese characters. Every race in China has 1 unified writing including Ugyhur and Tibet. Nowaday every Chinese knows Mandarin, it is call common language no such thing as national language. Even every Taiwanese can speak common language fluently.

[@davidz7858]

Not truth

[@biggpicture2930]

Almost all chinese can speak common language ?

[@mari-us6rh]

@@davidz7858 Not truth!? But it's 100% fact!!!!!

[@沐风-v3t]

@@biggpicture2930 According to official Chinese statistics, the Mandarin Chinese proficiency rate is 80%. The primary reason for this rate is that the older generation did not widely adopt Mandarin, while the proficiency rate among the younger generation is close to 100%.

[@DJs021]

​@@沐风-v3tyup because the pioneer or older generation usually stay isolated in their rural and mountain sides. When Fed Gov implanted common language, they can opt out for this.

[@ajayjoshi7236]

I am an Indian.... Indian education system is fucking hell.

[@IA100KPDT]

The only similarities between China and India is that they both had more than 1.4B people. That's it. Nothing else is the same. China has 3x more land mass. It has unified language and a recorded history that dates back to 3000 years at least. India was a fragmented continents of over 70 kingdoms before the British came. Nothing to compare.

[@kenw.4539]

India is more like Africa decades ago being forced to unify.

[@Usersskk]

Source- ccp 😂

[@WingkKong]

​@@UsersskkChina has Revolution which really change Chinese political system

[@reach2prasanna]

Dude, you don't seem to know about the history of China do you? China was barely unified for 100 years in the last 1000 years. It was as fragmented as India was. By the way, even China was ruled over by non-Chinese for over 800 years. Xi Jinping even spoke about "800 years of humiliation" in one of his speeches.

[@IA100KPDT]

@@reach2prasanna Dude, when India want to know her history, she had to go to China.😆

[@back2basics597]

China can mobilize a whole nation for a singular goal because it is mostly a homogeneous nation with a stable and powerful central government immune to divisive in fighting. India is diverse to a fault. And that says it all.

[@MrRight-fu1gf]

China is in fact that homogeneous at all! The only thing about China that is homogeneous is the language and country culture. The majority Han was able to make the country on one page with one language and one Chinese identity. The same can be said of the United States. Most people in the USA come from different parts of the world but there is one American culture and one language.

[@zuesart3627]

原因太多了，不只是政治，文化，历史，民族都不一样

[@maotsetung243]

regardless if u want towards a common good nothing else matters

[@timbaktuu9845]

Islam divided my country into 3 parts.But somehow only the Majority(Hindus)is to be blamed for every division

[@ashasandhiasingaram3900]

100% agreed. I marvel at the speed and comprehensiveness of the Chinese growth model 👍

[@manojsuri007]

We Indians are not born to overtake China. We want to live a happy and a self actualized life.

[@ImSadiaNadeem]

Then stop killing minorities in India.

[@manojsuri007]

@@SardineGigaBreath Happiness index..whoever defined it doesnt know what true happiness is.. it is definately not materiastic.

[@Oshovani-p1o]

Lol nobody wants u in country ​@@manojsuri007

[@1969shailesh]

Indians are happy and prosperous is the most redicuous statement

[@新品-e7l]

This is also what China wants to say to the United States of America. Chinese don't want to be invaded, colonized, insulted, forced to sign unequal treaties anymore. China just hopes that our people can live a better life. What we want to surpass is our past selves，Not the United States, which has only a history of two hundred years but has been the world's hegemon for a hundred years.

[@meka4996]

India were never a large economy, because what Charlie Munger said. The same reasoning holds true from the beginning of the human history.

[@BLG120]

Eh? U mad?

[@danwelterweight4137]

Not true. India and China were always number 1 and number 2 world economies. They always alternated between those positions. That is why Europeans wanted to find the maritime way to India because they knew that is where the wealth was.

[@asingh7608]

@@meka4996 Which school did you go to. I will have the answer once you reply to this message. 🤪🤣

[@martinLim-oj2tn]

W​@@danwelterweight4137when did India exist? 1947? 32 states are not happy with each other, other races are not happy with indians too! Indian not able to honor agreement! Want to take advantage! Thought others are fools

[@LawasSarawak]

@@danwelterweight4137 india was a creation of the British, before British came India were a bunch of interdependence kingdoms

[@willengel2458]

people overlooked China had gone through trial and errors to implement its form of government to get to where it is today. the embargoes and sanctions actually worked in China's favor, although the country and people suffered greatly for it. the more recent example is Russia, it allowed Russia to get its house in order. India inherited what the Brits left behind, it never got a chance to reform anything.

[@lowkatherine]

True, few thousand years of experience to go by. US is so young in the eyes of China India also had thousands of years, it's all about human livelihood style by choice

[@willengel2458]

@@lowkatherine India wasn't even a country when the British East India Company set foot on the Indian subcontinent. Religion is the glue that holds India together.

[@alexander7737]

India never wanted a change on the system it inherited from master, the British colonial master. Though it is clear now, even the master itself is failing.

[@enennam93]

Caste system he perfectly mentioned. 10 percent upper caste want rule 90 percent people. Stupids.

[@arahul4045]

​@@willengel2458 India was pretty much Unified under the Mughals, and Marathas. It's a very recent history, around the time of the British. India was also pretty much United under the Mauryans, Guptas, Cholas, etc. Infact, many southeast Asian nations (including India) were a part of the Chola empire.

[@tforaodg]

When China has a problem, let's find a solution. When India has a problem, let's blame China or/and Pakistan.

[@belike415]

India first needs to change the unity and integrity of its society and the caste system

[@timothychung4811]

Dear goodness, don't let PALKI SHARMA FROM 'FIRST POST' SEE THIS.

[@yu-jd5jg]

In her head, she already knew but in her heart, she was trying hard not to accept it because of her Indian pride

[@DucaTech]

Porky Schwarma is in denial

[@CitizenEa]

I will forward this video to her!

[@madikerirahman3201]

@@yu-jd5jg Not pride but arrogance,

[@sungwong517]

😂😂😂😂

[@irritatedanglosaxon1705]

Their nation came from British whom subdued kingdoms or states under their knees. They came from different leaders, kingdoms, behavior, traditions, regulations, beliefs and states hip. They were never 1 country

[@PahatRout]

I had always indicated that India was created by Robert Clive of the East India Company.

[@raymonddon8875]

everything china does turns to gold. everything india touches turns to trash.... this is why china is the future!

[@mikolowiskamikolowiska4993]

So did Hong Kong and Singapore

[@danwelterweight4137]

Not true. Most of India was under the domination or mostly one empire way before the British ever showed up.

[@无人区玫瑰]

​@@danwelterweight4137not true.India has always been a geographical concept，Before the British came there were countless small regimes here who spoke different languages. it does not have a unified central government

[@crazy791326]

India's per Capita GDP is even below most Africa countries. The only difference between India and a combination of a group of Afirca countires is that it is able to gather resouces to accomplish some things that the latter can not, yet at the cost of forming unrealistic superiority and ambition that hinered them facing their core issues.

[@kenw.4539]

China could easily still be the "most populous country" in the world if it wanted to but it realized early on it's easy to populate yourself into poverty if you aren't careful. Not sure if India is thinking along the same lines - more people you have, the poorer you are in terms of per capita GDP since the "most populous democracy in the world" is a good boast.

[@gouthamkrishnan6718]

Nope only 12 african countries have higher per capita gdp than India.Learn things from actual authentic sources

[@InsightGrid620]

Combined gdp of africa is lower than india and population too

[@m.k5391]

​@@InsightGrid620India haters will deny this fact.

[@Pottahverse143]

India is a muscle-power based and money based country.Anybody can get away with any crimes if they are wealthy and influential enough.Merit has less importance here.Thats because of reservation and minority appeasement.

[@colafish2152]

Comparing India with China is an insult.

[@Usersskk]

Because India is way bigger and better than china 😂

[@Morpheus_neo_trinity]

Let me correct your statement. Comparing India with china is an insult to China.

[@sohelmalik400]

​@@Usersskkdelusional Indian

[@SamAnime08]

​@@Morpheus_neo_trinity it insult for india, because we don't debt trap our neighbours, we don't force our people to do that government want, we don't hurt our ecosystem. Like you can see, if china lost its economic power then there is no place for china but without that much economy India is respected for her helping neture towards other nation of the world. For example you can see during COVID that is caused by Chinese but india did enormous help by providing free vaccine to our neighbours, middle East, african nations, almost all nations.

[@SamAnime08]

​@@Morpheus_neo_trinity India was the Centre of power just 300 yrs ago and will be the centre of power in just 30-40 yrs again.

[@twilight6460]

LKY : India is a "separated" nation. India is not a real country. Instead, it is 32 separate nations that happen to be arrayed along the British rail line. Unquote Jayant Bhandari an Indian himself said : India will eventually disintegrate into many smaller countries Unquote Probably 20 to 30 countries. From : Singapore 🇸🇬

[@526Nitin]

Jayant is a friend of mine and I respect him and the respect is mutual but don't listen to him about everything regarding India.. just one instance.. anyone listening to him would have missed out the rally from September 2013 when sensex was 15,500 when Modi candidature was assured, to now north of 80,000. During covid he was dire about India and the sensex tripled from the bottom in no time. Btw whole heatedly agree with Charlie Munger sir 🙏

[@Morpheus_neo_trinity]

Exactly. India should have never been one country. It just wasn't in it's destiny but unfortunately 28 diverse and different states were jammed and clubbed into one country. So we don't have any sameness to unite and work as one single force.

[@msel04]

​@@Morpheus_neo_trinityabsolutely correct..

[@amarsinghhembram4379]

Who is Jayant Bhandari? And culturally, I don't see India disintegrating into 32 small countries. India instead could expand by integrating several other neighbouring countries including China and adjusting with their religion, culture and ethics.

[@IndiaKaput]

​@amarsinghhembra m4379 Who is Jayant Bhandari ??? You dad. From : Singapore 🇸🇬😂

[@indiana89able]

Also India doesn’t guarantee legal protection to its common citizens against crimes committed by the influential and wealthy. The justice system is poor and partial.

[@swethavicky1362]

There is no unity in diversity in India.Indian PM speaks hindi but political parties in tamilnadu, Kerala, karnataka, Andhrapradesh all discourage south Indians from learning hindi and say it's an unfair imposition and says parliament doesn't respect tamil, telugu, kannada, malayalam.North India vs south india fights can be seen in twitter, Instagram based on language, color, race discrimination. But the entire India has one thing in common patriarchy and misogyny,increasing rapes, rising unemployment,terrible zero civic sense and zero Olympic gold medals. India is doomed and hopeless.

[@Divya-ws2lf]

Gujrat , Maharastra left the chat 😂😂

[@swethavicky1362]

@@Divya-ws2lf sorry I have not visited the states, I have only went to those 3 states once or twice, I live in Tamilnadu

[@AlHamdan-ks1yr]

China was poor before deng zhiao ping. India just need one smart leader like that.

[@Floconparagrins2969]

Muslim population in China is 0%

[@debbieanne7962]

Never been to India but have been to China several times. My observations, China is very clean, extremely safe can walk around at any time as a woman with confidence. Efficient and super modern. India I feel is not that safe for women and the lifestyle is chaotic, certainly many poor people and the caste system doesn’t help. The old Singapore President sums up India well

[@sarthak3441]

Dont ever come to india n dont even recommend others..

[@David-mv6si]

India is definitely not safe for women. It has got a name of raping capital.

[@Martensalberto]

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[@LilyR-s9y]

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[@LilyR-s9y]

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[@Benson578]

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[@CastuloMoncivais]

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[@CastuloMoncivais]

Made me more money than I could ever imagine

[@claudermiller]

The United States is suffering from the caste system, too. The wealthy send their children regardless of intellectual ability to the best schools, and nepotism makes certain they end up in the top positions. The more stratified the country has become over its history, the lower the quality of its leadership has become. This is one reason China is accelerating while the US is declining. The best and brightest rise to the top in China currently. Of course, 150 years from now, China will have had time too, to create a new imperial class.

[@thecomment9489]

After a period of time all good system that once create great countries start to degrade. Even the caste system of India which should ideally be called as varnashram was not intended as a tool of oppression and discrimination. But gradually with low IQs taking over it turned into a tool of discrimination.

[@crescent4996]

How do the 'best rise to the top' in China when 99% of the CCP ruling body is men.

[@firdausidris6367]

At least in US you don't have a community deemed ' by the other higher castes 'Untouchable' , Meaning they're unclean, too dirty to be touched.

[@DW-op7ly]

@@thecomment9489 Civilization state versus nation-state 15/01/11 - Süddeutsche Zeitung China confronts Europe with an enormous problem: we do not understand it Our western-centric value-judgements about China must no longer be allowed to act as a substitute for understanding the country in its own terms. This is no easy task. China is profoundly different from the West in the most basic of ways. Perhaps the most basic difference is that it is not a nation-state in the European sense of the term. Indeed, it has only described itself as such since around 1900. Anyone who knows anything about China is aware that it is a lot older than that. China, as we know it today, dates back to 221BC, in some respects much earlier. That date marked the end of the Warring States period, the victory of the Qin, and the birth of the Qin Empire whose borders embraced a considerable slice of what is today the eastern half of China and by far its most populous part. For over two millennia, the Chinese thought of themselves as a civilization rather than a nation. The most fundamental defining features of China today, and which give the Chinese their sense of identity, emanate not from the last century when China has called itself a nation-state but from the previous two millennia when it can be best described as a civilization-state: the relationship between the state and society, a very distinctive notion of the family, ancestral worship, Confucian values, the network of personal relationships that we call guanxi, Chinese food and the traditions that surround it, and, of course, the Chinese language with its unusual relationship between the written and spoken form. The implications are profound: whereas national identity in Europe is overwhelmingly a product of the era of the nation-state - in the United States almost exclusively so - in China, on the contrary, the sense of identity has primarily been shaped by the country’s history as a civilization-state. Although China describes itself today as a nation-state, it remains essentially a civilization-state in terms of history, culture, identity and ways of thinking. China’s geological structure is that of a civilization-state; the nation-state accounts for little more than the top soil. China, as a civilization-state, has two main characteristics. Firstly, there is its exceptional longevity, dating back to even before the break-up of the Roman Empire. Secondly, the sheer scale of China - both geographic and demographic - means that it embraces a huge diversity. Contrary to the Western belief that China is highly centralised, in fact in many respects the opposite is the case: indeed, it would have been impossible to govern the country - either now or in the dynastic period - on such a basis. It is simply too large. The implications in terms of the way the Chinese think are profound. In 1997 Hong Kong was handed over to China by the British. The Chinese constitutional proposal was summed up in the phrase: ‘one country, two systems’. Barely anyone in the West gave this maxim much thought or indeed credence; the assumption was that Hong Kong would soon become like the rest of China. This was entirely wrong. The political and legal structure of Hong Kong remains as different now from the rest of China as in 1997. The reason we did not take the Chinese seriously is that the West is characterised by a nation-state mentality, hence when Germany was unified in 1990 it was done solely and exclusively on the basis of the Federal Republic; the DDR in effect disappeared. ‘One nation-state, one system’ is the nation-state way of thinking. But, as a civilization-state, the Chinese logic is quite different. Because China is so vast and embraces such diversity, as a matter of necessity it must be flexible: ‘one civilization, many systems’. The idea of China as a civilization-state is a fundamental building block for understanding China in its own terms. And it has multifarious implications. The relationship between the state and society in China is very different to that in the West. Contrary to the overwhelming Western assumption that the Chinese state lacks legitimacy and is bereft of public support, in fact the Chinese state enjoys greater legitimacy than any Western state. We have come to assume that the legitimacy of the state overwhelmingly rests on the democratic process - universal suffrage, competing parties et al. But this is only one element: if it was the whole story, then the Italian state would enjoy a robust legitimacy rather than the reality, a chronic lack of it. And to explain this we have to go back to the Risorgimento as only a partially fulfilled project. The reason why the Chinese state enjoys a formidable legitimacy in the eyes of the Chinese has nothing to do with democracy but can be found in the relationship between the state and Chinese civilization. The state is seen as the embodiment, guardian and defender of Chinese civilization. Maintaining the unity, cohesion and integrity of Chinese civilization - of the civilization-state - is perceived as the highest political priority and is seen as the sacrosanct task of the Chinese state. Unlike in the West, where the state is viewed with varying degrees of suspicion, even hostility, and is regarded, as a consequence, as an outsider, in China the state is seen as an intimate, as part of the family, indeed as the head of the family; interestingly, in this context, the Chinese term for nation-state is ‘nation-family’. Or consider a quite different example. Over 90 per cent of Chinese think of themselves as of one race, the Han. This is so different from the world’s other most populous nations - India, United States, Indonesia and Brazil, all of which are highly multi-racial - as to be extraordinary. Of course, in reality the Han were a product of many different races, but the Han do not think of themselves like that. And the reason takes us back to the civilization-state and one of its defining characteristics, namely China’s remarkable longevity. Over thousands of years, as a result of many processes, cultural, racial and ethnic, the differences between the many races that comprised the Han have been weakened to the point where they were no longer significant. We will never make sense of China if we persist in treating it as if it is, or should be, a product of our own civilization. Our present attitude towards China is a function of arrogance and ignorance. And it threatens to leave us bewildered, confused and alienated. Our historical inheritance, and the mentality it has engendered, ill equips us for the very new world that is presently unfolding before us. Martin Jacques

[@kenw.4539]

As an American, all I see is everything getting worse while the government lies to us and spends every discretionary dollar on weapons, Israel, Ukraine, etc... while homelessness, cost of housing, cost of healthcare, infrastructure problems, inflation, etc...is skyrocketing. Our ruling elite learned long ago it's easy to manipulate the American people so they can keep paying for the American empire (800 military bases) to satisfy their personal egos while keeping us ignorant and divided. Latest example is the lie that Americans don't want cheaper cars while putting a 102.5% tariff on low priced but good quality Chinese EVs for example.

[@PratikBongale]

As an Indian, I do agree with most of the things mentioned in this video. India needs to get out of mediocrity, people need to work in the right direction and not just work hard. I am proud about Indian culture and my ancestors from Pre-British colonisation era but present day people of India lack a lot of things. Hoping for best. Peace.

[@johntan9151]

Here is a bit of history for you folks. Munger is spot on. The British colonized India in the 19th century. They got the Indians to grow poppy in India, shipped the opium to China and brought about the downfall of the Chinese which eventually led to the infamous war of Nanking and the humiliation of the Chinese. The subsequent peace treaty enforced on the Chinese led to the ceding of Hong Kong to the British for 100 years which lapsed in 1997. China never forget the humilation by Western powers. LKY's reading of the contrast between China and India is spot on.

[@sniper.2]

Most Chinese go back to China after studying in foreign universities while most Indians decide to stay for better future. Which affects the growth of India compared the the growth of China.

[@a1aurobindo]

Yeah becoz they get jobs and in India there are not enough opportunities.... So why should they stay... And then ther is caste system

[@top40harry]

because there is no futures in India, in another 100 years. , every India Born Indian will want to migrate ,

[@timbaktuu9845]

Bcoz all the tax they pay will be distributed among poor people.And in return the poor people will breed more children and demand more subsidies

[@guangxidavidliu]

1 reason ONLY. Would you people check the world "IQ" ? It tells the source of the reason.

[@brucewayne-rq7gy]

Yeah

[@charlesyang4923]

Corruptions prevailing all governmental institutions is the most negative influencer allowing India heading for modernization and prosperity.

[@jerseyneil1]

Munger is exactly correct. Politicians use religion and caste to gain votes and polarize opponents. Nothing gets done in India without some official seeking a bribe. The worst ideals of democracy is organized labor strikes. Labor unions are always on strike, you never know if the buses and trains are running because some labor group is on strike. Once you take Indians out of this failing system and put them in the West or some foreign country, Indians thrive economically. Hindu v. Muslim is a major problem in India, but when they live in the US or Europe, they live and work well together. India spent $400 US Dollars on the Statue of Unity construction, while thousands of homeless Indians are living a few miles away on the streets.

[@mayankdewli1010]

He's correct. Indian culture is inferior

[@Thestoryteller8474]

Whatever people say, me as an indian I would say India is different as every country in the world. People will say it's corrupt, chaotic, dirty like wise it's a different world out here it's chaotic but peaceful in its own way I love india.

[@Akash-ok7su]

India stinks though

[@vaishnavighuge6077]

I'm an Indian, and I too believe whatever India is, it's unique afterall, I feel like the different cultures over here r worth celebrating....But i don't appreciate the flaws, like it's true that in terms of technology, science China is ahead of us n many ppl do fight on basis of caste, religion etc. but that's the thing we need to improve on, rather than wasting time on thinking, we should actually do what's needful from our side, cuz the gov. ain't promising.

[@brucewayne-rq7gy]

​@@vaishnavighuge6077 But you can't live with the poverty, corruption , mediocre education and infrastructure . It's time to change everything and it could be but gradually . For that These politicians must take necessary steps to do so and we must learn from the developed nation what incentives worked in these nation so as to apply the same in india. firstly cleanliness is the main problem that must be fixed faster Even some parts of Africa look cleaner nowadays. 😢

[@somnathsaini1732]

Meri sandas k keede bhi thi kehte hn I love tatti Or wo rhenge keedey hi Industrialists nhi ban jayenge😂😂

[@ani.d4932]

As I an indian citizen wanna thanks to Mr. Charlie Munger to say the Actual Truth about the India....He said the truth what actually indians feel shame to saying it. 👏🙌❤

[@Korukum-h3w]

@@ani.d4932 Mr Charlie is a chinese citizen

[@lohti6399]

India got elephants and China got Dragons

[@amoghars]

Elephants are real and dragon a fantasy 😂

[@lohti6399]

@@amoghars Yes. Elephants have thick skin and slow. They are real. Dragons are not real. They are copycats.

[@temujinborjikin7223]

@@lohti6399 yes indian can rape elephants but chinese can't rape dragon.

[@LawasSarawak]

@@amoghars one is riding and is just dream

[@LawasSarawak]

@@lohti6399 Yes. dragon have fantasy. They are not real. elephant are not real. They are servant for rider (Brits).

[@BrandyHeng007]

Only country that has "untouchable" class group 😅

[@kenw.4539]

India is amazing. They can have untouchables but are a superpower more powerful than the US, China, and Russia combined. Palki Sharma always tell the truth. I sit in my house waiting for "orders" from our masters in New Delhi every day. I'm now convinced the Brahmins are the master race. They are so proud of their English speaking abilities and I feel I must get good at English too.

[@zhidom8099]

⁠@@kenw.4539wtf did I just read. U have no chance for Russia cuz they are where your weapon came from , USA and China is far advance than India and they make own weapon so how India even complete if Europe is United plus USA unleash the dog chain of Japan let it having full military I don’t think India can even stay even close as superpower

[@reach2prasanna]

Caste system in India, class system in the UK, sects in Islamic countries and ethnicity in countries like China. Google the caste system that exists in Japanese called Burakumin. There's caste system in Thailand, Vietnam too. It's just that the caste system in India is highlighted as it's only identity by world's media and people have latched on to it.

[@InsightGrid620]

Not now

[@Korukum-h3w]

Every country has, or atleast used to have, like India. Key words for you are 'look deep' .

[@birendratiwari5736]

Fully agree with these facts

[@bizzchina]

I have visitied both countries and what I can confidently say is India will never ever be clsoed to China, not even in 100 years.

[@silverrajat13]

Two dogs fighting and falcon takes the catch. India China war mongrer

[@Cubs3344]

this is what US wanted to create negative sentiments by frequently comparing China and India.

[@fuzzywuzzy0549]

US doesn't care, China doesn't care. It's only Indians.

[@nomadexplorer6682]

India has a long way to go. It is very slow as the work culture and bureaucracy bogs it down. 800 million still live on Ration Cards and it is only growing with rise in unproductive population. Society still hangs on to Caste card for earning and prosperity.

[@orsuhk1234]

Absolutely accurate analysis. I agree with the conclusions. Language, culture, religion,caste system and RAMPANT CORRUPTION and Nepotism , disparity in wealth between. The wealthy and poor is not going to allow India to become a First World Nation.

[@sanjayneelavara6763]

As long as India is Democracy and courts entertain PIL we cannot grow like China. 😂😂

[@tanyi5524]

The Indian leader is an opportunist.

[@ksneoh3572]

The current one is a Hindu extremist and grossly affected by NPD -- Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

[@lilagurung9806]

100 percent accurate

[@wymmyw8744]

have india ever united before their independence though..?

[@strongchallenger2269]

Lky has already said "India is NOT a real country. It is made up of 32 different states that runs along the British railway line".

[@Gareeb1997]

Learn about Maurya, Gupta Kushan Chola Mughal Maratha Empire.... Stop learning history from CCP perspective....

[@kenw.4539]

@@Gareeb1997 Sounds like several differenct countries were forced together but never united in terms of language and culture like China (Mandarin, Confucianism). Don't need CCP to tell you this. I'm sure many Indians agree.

[@kenw.4539]

Not united in terms of China having one language (Mandarin) and everyone practicing or understanding Confucianism. Different countries were temporarily forced together but not unified in terms of language or culture.

[@InsightGrid620]

Mauryan empire gupta empire covers most of part of india

[@suukinsin6771]

I am indian We r lazy We focus on bollywood too much So good luck 😂😂😂😂

[@idkhowdumblingare]

Hope our South India can make a separate nation 😅.

[@justinzhang2707]

I do agree with what you said, indians don't. I live in New Zealand, if you want to be a friend of an indian, what you need to do is just simply and repeatedly saying that they are NO1 in the world ....

[@Chisobhaneko]

hahaha facts

[@loongsiu4766]

no joking？😂

[@samdayeharricharan2397]

Never heard more nonsense than this

[@taimanchan3395]

what india actually wants is to remain everything such as religion, caste, corruption, politics … unchanged except economic achievement. they just don't realize that all those 'valuables' are actually obstacles to development.

[@arjunraj823]

Caste system? Where in India is that in 2024?

[@shrihari6860]

​@@arjunraj823North Indian villages I think.... Especially UP,Bihar

[@hyphen2612]

Back when China started to open up, it was surrounded by five East Asian economic power houses, namely Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Singapore. All of them helped China in its path to rapid industrialization. India on the other hand, were surrounded by countries that were either enemies or ones needing India's help. They were basically dragging India's feet.

[@RagnarLothbrok-yg8yp]

1.Religion 2.Politicians including the current govt 3.superstitions 4. Herd mentality 5.Corruption 6.hygiene 7.crime against women 8.illiteracy

[@dinesh6489]

Indian, especially upper caste hindus are spreading how great they were rather than what needed to be done for the progress 🤦

[@crestfire8008]

Here is the thing. The ancestors of the current people of India were constantly invaded and ruled over by foreigners. They had Persian, Mongolian, British rulers. They actually have been colonised for over 2000 years. China was not colonised for 2000 years. India was thriving when it was under foreign rulers. Leave it to them, they fail

[@gouthamkrishnan6718]

You studied history from chinese whatsapp university,right?.Persians,mongols never ruled India.Natives ruled India for most part of it's history.Only british successfully colonized entire India

[@crestfire8008]

@@gouthamkrishnan6718 you were ruled by Muslims. Muslims are foreigners

[@crestfire8008]

@@gouthamkrishnan6718 India was ruled by Muslims. They were foreigners

[@andrewlim7751]

​@@gouthamkrishnan6718 There's another problem with India, hallucinations, your forever dreaming without waking up to reality, e.g., "never been colonized, never been ruled by mongols, Persians, Greek, whatsoever." 😂😂😂

[@andrewlim7751]

​@@gouthamkrishnan6718 Just a kind advice, in order to work properly, you need to WAKE UP. 😂😂😂

[@godoldway3984]

😂😂😂😂😂 Do you think foreign investors are thinking about local people You give them free access to market they will say indi is the most advanced nation on the planet

[@JayDadhich897]

1. Caste system In India. 2. Religion problem in India. 3. Bribery 4. Democracy 5. Language 6. Cultural Differences 7. People aren't serious here. (Corruption , Bribery, Hate in name of religion and Caste , Water And Electricity Scarcity and many problems aren't taken seriously by either the lawmakers or the Public becuase many are uneducated and many who are educated doesn't give a crap about nation building)

[@colafish2152]

India is the universe mother of democracy.

[@markcank-hy1fx]

拱火大师

[@jonathanthink5830]

the caste system is the #1 show stopper.

[@mazharansari7813]

As an Indian muslim this is absolutely true!

[@AvogadroAvogadro]

They must make sure to resolve the border issue with China so they can cooperate in development.

[@RavindraSinghGupta]

That's why we have 100 billion dollar trade with china apart from border issue

[@yanwu1403]

India, same with USA, all need a strong external enemy, otherwise they will split. due to internal issues

[@drashwiniverma]

Corruption is the biggest enemy of India, in fact these all are traitors.

[@sttan2631]

Compare population yes ...the rest is govt policy shouting biggest democracy won't work...is a joke...population suffer...

[@shankarbalakrishnan2360]

India only needs to grow like india not like other countries❤❤🎉🎉 diversity should be fun and intelligence

[@ashwiniked]

Too much negativity about India. Inspite of so many challenges, India has grown fast in recent years. Democracies take time. And talking about language, more than 70% indian can understand Hindi, thanks to the Bollywood, and muslims of India. No nation can stay united if it has such fault lines, as described in this video. Indians love their country: North to south, east to west. I agree caste system and women participation have been the biggest problems our Indian society faces, but things have improved with time. India will grow, become more united, and will always be a free democratic country (unlike china).

[@rajeev0520]

Jai Hind! well said brother!

[@xienjougao3131]

its about culture and behavior of the people. why would u invest if people will set ur factory on fire?

[@OmPaik-b8c]

Muslims????

[@rajsub3884]

You know what you keep talking about hindi where is development in Hindi land that million dollar question where is up bihar sucking from southern states.u need to have disciplines doesn't matter if there is different language that doesn't matter but will of people in nort is disgraceful bad over breeding like animals if this resolved more twenty percent of problems will be solved

[@timbaktuu9845]

Muslims have low literacy rate,high crime rate,high poverty rate,high population rate...but for this guy they spread hindi

[@deojyotishalaya]

India need only two !! discipline and cleannesses

[@parthpatel1605]

He is 100% right👌👌👌bitter truth he said I am indian