Why INEOS Must Be Patient! | Off The Bar

[@KingJaffeJoffer99]

Im a united fan from London and I can tell you Ange, I have been supporting united since before you was born. We feel it as much as you, don't worry about that. Sir Alex, Sir Matt, Duncan Edwards, Sir Bobby, George Best, Dennis Law, Bryan Robson, Roy Keane, Ryan Giggs, Wayne Rooney, Cristiano, none of these Manchester United greats were from Manchester. Fans in Manchester love calling United the biggest club in the world, it isn't just you guys who made it so, it's the worldwide fanbase and the success all those NON MANCUNIANS had. Having said that, Manchester is obviously the spiritual home for any United Fan, but don't disrespect fans from outside Manchester

[@bangersinlondon2231]

Well said...thought that was a very shit comment.

[@DeanSmith-d2w]

This is why Stretford paddock can't grow as a channel,if your not from England we don't matter as fans ,yet everyone knows it's outside money growing the game

[@ste4392]

She isn't a Man Utd fan, she's a media personality who'll say whatever for pay

[@AbdiHassan-uz3wg]

Well said mate. As a red from Yorkshire I get this type of comment sometimes.

[@Shiggiesmalls02]

Especially funny when she’s sitting across from Joe who isn’t from Manchester

[@theryanthomas]

Nah mate Ange is out of pocket with that comment about they don't know because they're not northern. Typical TalkSport talent

[@MrBaronCabron]

I think she meant that you get a lot more stick in Manchester/Liverpool areas rather than you would in London in terms of banter than you would down south, just giving her the benefit of the doubt...but then again down South I'm sure you get plenty of banter from pretty much every other rival club surrounding you

[@mitchellspreadborough156]

1:06 Geez Ang, way to dismiss every United fans feelings throughout the globe who don’t live in Manchester.

[@mfc4655]

My timer for Amorim starts August 2025 before that I literally do not want to hear his name honestly. It wouldn't surprise me if he was the most recent employee out all employees including like stewards and stuff. Everyone including the chefs have been here longer than he has. And if we tell him to be pragmatic rather than allowing him to implement his philosophy we might as well have kept Ruud cause it don't take a genius to play 433 or 4231 and see out the season. Forget scrambling for a point I want Amorim to be idealistic. A bit like how Postecoglu was at Spurs for a while that they'd lose and still play the system. This season is a write off anyway might as well hammer down the tactics.

[@BrettRiverBoat1]

Could be in the championship by then

[@MH-vp7lf]

Too soon, you realise how far behind united are? Its not a quick fix.... its not fifa game so realistically he wont have most of these players out maybe 3 or 4 or 5 max... and he wont get all the players he wants in either.

[@dco1019]

Also doesnt take a genius to see that ruud finishing the year in a somewhat familiar setup, with a bit of ruuds Influence...was the best move... Amorim is just a guy with a system just like ten hag was a guy with a system...there was no need to rapidly change the course like that and shipwreck the club. They scapegoated eth, got the bounce from ruud. Just keep the club afloat...get a new manager after the season (if ruud wasnt perfect)

[@Dwightpower42]

Why are you name dropping postecoglu as proof it works 😂 spurs have gotten worse this season. Are you supposed to accept bad results every week just in case things turn around in the next 5 years?

[@savesutd91]

Why?? A manager needs to perform or he has to go. It’s that simple. You can’t just keep playing tactics that obviously don’t work in the prem. ETH won 2 trophies and still had to go. Why would you let this guy ruin the club even more? Look at Ange…. Do you think his stubbornness is doing Spurs any favors?

[@jordanreed2749]

Not understanding because you’re not northern is some top red shit and pissed me off.

[@ste4392]

She's a ragebait guest mate. On Talksport slagging Man Utd off every week

[@NatashaBurton]

From the moment that woman said that people don’t understand what it is to support United if your not northern, I’m like go back to talk shite! Shame cos at first I was like yeah, a woman on the show. Why say something so silly right at the start?!

[@tomg3131]

They are all out of touch. They back rashford and other players too much. You back what is best for the club, then the manager then the players. If the players are not playing for the club they can go. But because marcus rashford is a manchester graduate and is all PR to the back nines yoi cant criticise him at all. He will never be an elite player because the elite players take all the criticism thats what makes them better. I.e ronaldo, messi, bale, salah

[@ZackA888]

Agreed! This just continues the toxic fan mentality I’m a better fan than you just because of where I’m from/ live. It’s pathetic. If you’re a true United fan it doesn’t matter where you’re from or where you live. We can have different opinions no matter our location.

[@apexgym6515]

She's right

[@CharlieWaffelsTennis]

That’s what you’re concern is? Then maybe she’s right.

[@scottsinner7530]

She’s normally really good on here, but that comment was garbage.

[@robnewman2143]

She just proved exactly what’s wrong with the United fan base!! Saying United supporters that aren’t northern don’t understand!! Absolute bollocks, and total snobbery!! But that just proves why she is on talkshit!!!

[@KingJaffeJoffer99]

Exactly

[@Callum_009]

She works for talksport says it all tbh

[@tedstan9734]

I was following United when she still floating around her dad's left bollock. And I'm from Merseyside. United have been my life for over 50 years. She should apologise for that ill informed shit house opinion.

[@ste4392]

Give him time, but she was on a Talksport video yesterday asking if he'll be sacked. Absolute joke

[@JoanaVieira-n3k]

All of this community are going forward to that, though they still don t say it clearly.

[@conorgillespie7832]

What phase is Slot in? If you except mediocrity you'll get at best mediocrity.

[@chrisclassical7]

@@conorgillespie7832 if slot was at united we would be in 14th.

[@Danny-iv5uu]

@@chrisclassical7facts

[@Danny-iv5uu]

Considering everyone wanted de gea out because he couldn’t play out with his feet, Onana has been shocking at shot stopping and made as many if not more mistakes than de gea with his feet. Doesn’t play out any better

[@impiraja7899]

Just gotta say that talkSport is garbage

[@mentality-monster]

TalkShite

[@stumufc125]

Not listened to it for years. Too many Manchester United agenda's, to generate clicks 🇾🇪

[@pauldavies7251]

I listen for the cringe 😂 Jamie o'hara really is a prize clueless 🛎🔚

[@ste4392]

​@@stumufc125 he's made the comment because the lady is on it

[@ep9421]

Yeah, garbage. Just like this Manchester United team. Keep up the great work, Ruben Amorin 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼

[@JC10..]

Paddock not challenging the narrative fans have to be Northern nice one 👍

[@georgebarney100]

Only northern united fans get it??? What a numpty! And from someone who moved away from Manchester😂

[@Callum_009]

And moved out of the U.K. too 🤣 she’s all over the place

[@FreemindTv11]

at this point, I wouldn’t mind not having Europe next season. I hate lower the standard and apparently we need the money, but this squad can’t cope, even with signings.

[@Anthony-eh9wr]

Lol well that's good because we have no chance of getting Europe

[@niallwagner6283]

I don’t give a crap as long as we don’t get relegated. This season should just be Amorim sticking to his principles and trying out different players, and those who are not good enough shipped out asap

[@cyeamaculture8486]

Not even the system that's a problem..it's the lack of intensity and work rate that worries me

[@74castle]

Amorim ain’t changing shit when it comes to the system.. he says repeatedly he knows what needs to be done, and I’m buying into Amorim 1000%.. he’s got what it takes not to be broken by this club, the first coach since Fergie to. INEOS need to find the players to change the team, cuz the current squad just ain’t capable. No fan should question this coach, the players are responsible for the mess today, yes a lot aren’t good enough and that’s down to Woodward etc, but with a few upgrades Amorim will start doing bits

[@BrettRiverBoat1]

So you like losing football games and alienating players

[@74castle]

If you’re referring to Marcus rashford then we will never see eye to eye.. Amorim has seen rashford up close and despite his diva ego and poster boy status has made it clear, I don’t care who are if you don’t work for the team you don’t play.. Rashford was challenged and he cried about it and said I wanna leave, we don’t need cash hungry weak minded stars.

[@BrettRiverBoat1]

@@74castle Garnacho and Caseimiro as well. Adam from futv has said there are serious issues in the dressing room.

[@74castle]

@@BrettRiverBoat1 for me that’s not “alienation”, Garnacho wasn’t behaving performing like a professional in Amorims eyes, he was exposed and then reintroduced into the squad, Casemiro hasn’t been exiled he’s been left on the bench in favour of younger legs that can cover the ground and press, he’s still got minutes but he’s used him less. What are these dressing room “issues”? I can’t believe Amorim has upset anyone with just cause, he evokes such charisma intelligence and motivation that to me at least says, if you’re against this guy you’re not the future. We all know this dressing room has had its toxicity, but Amorim won’t stand for anything that obstructs his beliefs, and I’m here for it, and I think Ratcliffe is too, he wants winners, so any detractors better ship up or ship out

[@BrettRiverBoat1]

​@@74castle I would say the constant rotation and consistently playing players out of position and in a system they don't like. You think the players like losing games consistently?

[@FoxunitedFC29]

Don’t matter where your from you get it as a united fan.

[@kingtchala6832]

Well said. Hated that little remark. What about lifelong fans from other countries for example, don’t they “get it”

[@TheAjrclark]

Yeah, very divisive little remark. ST doesn't normally condone that kind of thing. No need. I'm from Manchester, living in Brighton. Brighton's Man United fans, 'get it'.

[@duncan3292]

@@FoxunitedFC29 Sorry but we don't actually. I've been a southern Utd fan for over 30 years but I'd never claim to have the same connection to the club as a Mancunian. There are some things about supporting Manchester United that only apply to the regular match going fans and the local community.

[@FoxunitedFC29]

@@duncan3292 strongly disagree. There maybe a bond which the local community can have but it doesn’t mean you can have less passion or affection for the club, you could argue the opposite there are plenty of fans from Australia, America, India that wake up at 2am in the morning to watch there team on TV and you claim they don’t have the same passion or commitment?! Bit of a stretch personally.

[@PorkPie-z6l]

Idiotic comment from her. Totally unnecessary and absolutely not true. McKola isn't Northern. Because I'm an hour south I don't get it even though I'm dyed in the wool red. Silly.

[@Halfirishdan]

I’m not sure what level you’re not supposed to “get it” cos you’re southern.

[@Halfirishdan]

Lasted another 10 mins and switched off. Which is a shame cos I love Joe and Jay

[@duncan3292]

@@Halfirishdan Get over yourself. So ready to be offended

[@Halfirishdan]

@@duncan3292I’m actually quite difficult to offend. I just have a low threshold for bullshit. United are shit and I “don’t get it”. They win and I’m a glory supporter. Does McKola get it? How about Beckham? I don’t particularly have anything against her, but to my knowledge she works in media and despite Manchester being a booming media hub, she (to my knowledge) has moved to Germany and London. Seemingly anywhere other than Manchester, or the North, which to be fair is absolutely her choice.

[@EllenWst]

​@@Halfirishdanbut she is a united fan because she's from there. That has nothing to do with her moving. Why would anyone who didn't have some connection with the area choose a football club. Other than glory which, I'm sorry, if that's the case you are a glory supporter.

[@Halfirishdan]

@@EllenWst my point is more that I would expect someone who is so quick to leave Manchester might have a better understanding of why someone not from there might support them. For the record, she can do what she wants, and I don’t have anything against her

[@mikemorrow2184]

We've had lots of managers who have tried to play "their way" and reverted in order to get points. They have all failed!! So why should we do the same again. Makes no sense. Let him implement his system. If it means relegation then that's the way it goes. We can't keep doing the same thing over and over . Patience !!

[@Marvel14-j4l]

Tell them mater they all want the man to change funny fanbase

[@BrettRiverBoat1]

Hang on two trophies in two years is hardly failure

[@richardlionheart8583]

If Amorim doesn't have the players to play his system, should he not in the immediate short term, play pragmatically. The target now is to survive and build for next season. Right now, United are close to entering a relegation scrap. If that happens, United are going down

[@mikemorrow2184]

​@@BrettRiverBoat1I agree but when I say failed I mean got sacked 👍🏻

[@stevem9529]

Happy to be relegated just so a manager can play 343. Jesus

[@cregyn]

Did Ange become less of a fan when she moved away from Manchester? Amazing how people think that your location is what makes you a bigger fan and not whether you actially support the players and manager rather than slag them off ecery week

[@PeteMarshall-tp3ih]

Please stop with Rashford, he hasn't wanted to play for us for nearly 2 years...or so it seems by his body language

[@TonyField]

What utter rubbish

[@bradmodd7856]

body language experts....know what the manager doesn't know?

[@User777Cd]

@@TonyField ok he doesn’t wanna play anymore. Fixed it. He’s a disgrace either way

[@worzeldanier9012]

Get rid of him should of sold few years back for big money.

[@TonyField]

@@User777Cd no he's not sick to death of you so called fans trying to tell us what we should know and what players we should down tools on . Rashfors is United through and through . So what he's not been happy . No one has or is every day of the week at work . Get over it

[@NatashaBurton]

INEOS have so much to answer for. Now cancelling the charity that supports old United players who didn’t earn a lot of money. £40,000 per YEAR. INEOS have to GO!!!!

[@UnitedF1re]

This girl is from TalkShite, and she started with exactly that slating Southern fans. It's like me saying she doesn't get it because it's a mans sport! Lost all credibility immediately

[@davidellinsworth3299]

Yeah she's usually pretty good, but that was a bad take

[@MrGts92]

Yeah a guy from London totally gets what it's like to be around Manchester without being there.

[@UnitedF1re]

@MrGts92 the comment wasn't about being in Manchester, it was about supporting Manchester United. She's acting like a top red and she clearly fails to understand football supporting at a basic level.

[@KJ_2020]

@@MrGts92 so what is it like then? If anything, being in Manchester when the team is shit is way better because most of the people in the office or in the pub are other United fans. If you're in London, you're in the minority and people will just be taking the piss out of you for all sorts of reasons, even if United are good. It's an utterly stupid comment she made of no consequence other than to pretend her opinion is more important

[@karendallard6012]

My husband and I are southerners please don't tell him he dosnt get it. He was born a utd fan. Don't disrespect southerners we get it don't you worry

[@Superman240706]

I'm from Chingford, East London and I've been a United fan ever since I can remember. Oh, and Chingford is home to United legends such as Becks and Sheringham..

[@SuperMagoosh]

Players were shit in the other formation so why go back...they can learn the new way or piss off

[@davidellinsworth3299]

Very well said

[@richarddavies3518]

I can’t believe “the system” is the main topic of conversation. We generally set up like every other team in the league when in possession, it’s not alien. Our general play, as in playing patterns and how close together our players are to make easy passing options, has improved. The players keep making brain dead errors that have cost us points. Almost every goal we conceded at the moment is down to an individual. We don’t have strong enough players in the forward areas so if we concede a goal, we’ll struggle to win. Everybody with a brain knew this was going to be a struggle and even said so. Now we’re struggling we’re shocked? Give me a break!

[@joetownsend8305]

Bang on. We have one of the worst attacks in the league.

[@dodgysmum8340]

We do hv one of the worst attacks. But when we are only playing 3/4 attackers - 25pc less than other teams - we are handicapping ourselves.

[@MrGrantspants]

You’ve hit the nail on the head sir. There’s some bad qualities in every member of the squad, whether it be tactically, technically, decision making, strength of character. It all screams of a shitty dressing room culture with no leaders.

[@BENPOTTS-yv2rr]

United have had two successful managers since the war, arguably in their entire history, reality check needed

[@timwright4676]

Amorim will be the third.

[@anthonyganley3597]

lets also remember we had another option apart from INEOS, they have now cut ex-players funeral costs, 40k a years. They are a desgrace.

[@mikemorrow2184]

@@anthonyganley3597 the other option was a state. Not for me I'm afraid.

[@Jackiiiiiiiii]

Said it before. Look at what ineos did with the other football club he owned. Massive cost cutting lot of false promises. Funnily enough the glazers have a better record as owners than ineos do. I have 0 faith in ineos.

[@mikemorrow2184]

@@Jackiiiiiiiii I'm not trying to defend Ineos here but "the glazers have a better record" Come on ! The whole of the debt is down to the Glazers plus they have taken hundreds of millions in dividends .

[@Jackiiiiiiiii]

@@mikemorrow2184 I’m not talking about financial records. I’m talking about how well their clubs have done ever since they took over.

[@mikemorrow2184]

​@@Jackiiiiiiiiifair enough. However the situation we are now in is due to the Glazers so that we can't buy our way out of it.

[@gavleopardi70]

It’s a real vicious circle: getting beat every week, you plunge down the league, end of season outside Europe, PSR means there’s no money for signings, meanwhile you can’t get rid of the deadwood to raise funds, into next season you go, rinse and repeat…and I’m not even a Utd fan!

[@saber475]

It would be an absolute disaster if Amorim abandoned his system, can't believe this is actually being discussed. Have we learned nothing from ten Hag and Ralf both abandoning their original principles to fit this terrible squad? You have to stay with it.

[@Dwightpower42]

Just implement the system when you get some new players in to do it properly. A great manager gets the best out of his players and sets the team up to play to their strengths. Too many bluffers in modern football that only know how to play football one way. Just one of many ways the game has downgraded. I remember the days when managers and players were able to switch things up depending on who they were up against, should be a minimum requirement for people at the top level. Fans have become too accustomed to the mediocrity and laziness of the modern game.

[@saber475]

@@Dwightpower42 That is exactly what people praised ten Hag for when he initially abandoned all his principles after the Brentford and Brighton defeats and guest what happened? It blew up in his face, he was never able to fully implement the vision he wanted. As for Amorim's system, it is very flexible, that is literally one of the main reasons he settled on it, it's ability to adapt. We have already seen him tweak it multiple times within games. Many of these players are just not good enough, we can not be held hostage by them and our fears anymore, it's just cowardly, we need to be patient and forget about these results while he builds or we are going to end up in this exact position in a year or two with another manager and rebuild needed.

[@conorgillespie7832]

Doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results is literally insane.

[@Dwightpower42]

@@saber475 it blew up in ten hags face because he brought in more trash players. Also how do you expect to rebuild properly when you can’t attract decent players. Who is going to sign for a manager who has guided one of the top 3 clubs in the world to the bottom half of the table? The clubs already a rotten prospect for young players while it’s been finishing in the top half, there’s literally nothing attracting them now except the fact that they were a good team over 10 years ago

[@kylebriffa7]

Fans are just so impatient. The guy just came in ffs, give him time he deserves! At this point i doubt these are united "fans", why should we keep hiring and sacking? Something has to give...and this time it's not the manager... it's these brain dead players! AND PATIENCE FFS

[@TSF13]

Nice had 6 managers in two years. I don’t trust INEOS at all to keep him

[@FullTimeDevils]

That’s the worry. INEOS could panic or do a knee jerk reaction like they have in the past. We need to back this manager with time and signings not replace him.

[@BrettRiverBoat1]

@@FullTimeDevils Why is it a worry? Because Amorim is doing so well?

[@joetommie438]

​@@FullTimeDevilsBack which manager, when we get to the championship next season? Right 😂 Our next 3 games, we ain't getting a point.

[@scottsinner7530]

@@BrettRiverBoat1because SOMEone needs time in order to build something. And if you think this season is on Amorim, I just don’t know what to say.

[@BrettRiverBoat1]

@scottsinner7530 Don't say anything then. What was the point in changing the manager now if that's the case?

[@tylerwood8710]

"The players seem to be struggling with the 3-4-3/3-4-2-1" The players were struggling with a 4-2-3-1. The players are struggling in any formation; they're just struggling: full stop.

[@francisstephens9828]

Does not matter what system you play. This mob don't give a shit!

[@ryanstubbs_]

“They aren’t from Manchester”.. what kind of bullshit bollocks is that? Been going to OT before she were born.

[@paulgray2156]

Spot on Joe on the wing back and 10 positions

[@BubbaBassGafyn]

Angelina spot on about Amorim standing ground over style of play.

[@BrettRiverBoat1]

Sorry I don't agree.

[@BubbaBassGafyn]

@@BrettRiverBoat1question is, has Sir Jim transmitted the Armageddon virus?? 😃

[@jordonsmith1371]

​@@BrettRiverBoat1She's 100% right, we've seen these players throw manager after manager under the bus when they are playing a style "they understand" if Amorim backs down now they'll think this guy's gone before the season ends and down tools.

[@tedstan9734]

​@jordonsmith1371 They downed tools years ago. Just face it. They're dogshit. Where else in the Prem does Martinez. Dalot. Mount. Hojlund. Maguire. Lindalof. Shaw. Onana get games?? They're not. That dressing room is fuckin poison. Eric Tin Pot has massively fucked us over.

[@fahadmalik4724]

She said something similarly disrespectful on Talk sports. My father supported the club since 1952 but it doesn't matter cause he's not northern bull. what if somebody said you lineage had to be purely English (white & northern) to understand Manchester United. I always wondered why the fanbase was so low now I understand as nobody corrected her the arrogance top Tier Red

[@WayofWyrd]

Go on Ange, have a rant, very well put aswell ✊🏼✌🏼🙂

[@paulogden27]

Onana "He's very good with his feet and you can rely on him to build out from the back" ... he then dives the wrong way or punches thin air from set pieces. He's like fucking Bruce Grobbelar.

[@craigcorbet]

21 is coming … for Liverpool

[@AbdiHassan-uz3wg]

That comment isn’t fair from Ange. I’m a northern but I have met fans in Massachusetts and in the hearts of Maine who are proper. Who work up early hours in the morning to watch united.

[@danielabraham7547]

I want the goalkeeper to be good at shot stopping and commanding the box being good on his feet is a bonus... but maybe I am old-fashioned.

[@jamestierney601]

Funniest quote of the video was when Joe said "Onana is very good with his feet"....

[@RogerSmith1984]

Piss off about we don’t get it because we aren’t northern !!

[@SidtheWhistle]

Morning, All Hope you had a great Christmas

[@timcollins7063]

You too bud.

[@Danny-iv5uu]

Maguire great in the air yet we’ve conceded 40% of our goals from corners where Maguire should be dominant but never anywhere near the ball

[@cregyn]

How many of those goals was maguire actually on the pitch for? 😂

[@maxwellgonzalez4763]

@@cregyncan’t believe you’re defending Maguire man

[@cregyn]

@@maxwellgonzalez4763 can't believe you think that he should be blamed for us conceding goals that he wasn't even on the pitch for

[@sx64man]

wingbacks & 10s may be an issue but the real issue is look at how many goals under Amorim have been suffered from 2 goalkeepers that have no clue on commanding their 6 yard area on corners and set piece crosses or idiotic mental mistakes

[@joeh4303]

Biggest mistake by Ineos was not sacking ETH in the summer and bringing Amorim in then. This squad built does not suit Amorim's style...need to rip it all up

[@Drwn4945]

Who will be the first to realise that if 90% of players don't suit the system it's better to change the manager? No one is replacing 15 players over three years and tolerating relegation form at the same time. It was a massive mistake by ineos. They are clueless. Save the guys career and admit it was a wrong appointment. Find someone who can build on what ten hag started. We have a 70% good squad for 4231

[@abderra18]

Square pegs in round holes.

[@psk305]

Seriously, we need a solid striker!! Rest of it will sort itself out.. too much pressure on the defense and midfield coz hollund and Zirkzee are not upto scratch

[@Davemac189]

Gotta give him 1-2 season before judge when he gets his own signings in

[@elinjens1]

Lets hope he get us up from the championship then

[@BrettRiverBoat1]

100 percent this ​@@elinjens1

[@Davemac189]

@@elinjens1 we’re not gonna go down cmon

[@elinjens1]

@@Davemac189 we are most likely gonna lose our 4 next matches. 3 of them in the league and Arsenal will kick us out of the FA cup. Ware in the relegation fight. Like it or not

[@damianbrowne847]

@@elinjens1calm down 😂 you probably called the whole squad dead but you expect the manager to play prime barce ball? Inoes need to sort him a few players and not cutting costs. We literally don’t have a left sided full back all the time Inoes have been there.

[@Bob-f3x6w]

100's of redundancies,Sir Alex no longer on the payroll,ticket concessions for our pensioners and children of £40 and £25 scrapped and increased to £66,pricing old and future fans out of watching their team. Now they are cancelling charity donations to our old players. Not only do I not recognise our club on the pitch,I don't recognise what used to be a United family off the pitch. Apparently, Ratters gets on very well with our current PM. Likeminded, it seems too !!!

[@sherradgordon]

Miss Kelly ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@deltafay1981]

We can shout and stomp our feet as much as we like...but with this squad (the majority of which must know are heading for the exit door as far as Amorim is concerned) we will remain in free fall until the season ends. We've just got to take it.

[@christophermccaughran3253]

Martinez has been a major problem but it’s not popular to say that is it.

[@BrettRiverBoat1]

Ineos sacked Dan Ashworth because he didn't want Amorim.

[@chrisclassical7]

i have a total pain in my ass listening to people saying hojlund isn't getting service. maybe he is not just that good

[@Rivelino824]

Shes worried it will create complacency. Im switching off embarrassing.

[@BillyMeredith-999]

Amorim admitted that he can't implement his system without an extensive period of training. Only one of the players has previously played this system and been comfortable. Yet Amorim decided to stick to it. He's either thick or mad.

[@elinjens1]

Acording to Amorim it is now or later. Thats why. He got the job because of his system and he wiøl srick to that

[@BrettRiverBoat1]

​@@elinjens1 well he could end up relegating the club

[@jhaych]

​@@BrettRiverBoat1we won't go down FFS haha

[@JimmyH7]

Sorry Angelina, us Southern reds “do get it”. Sounds like Talk Sport has done its work on her by creating a “divide”, when we should all be one, especially at this time. Already got my back up before we got into the detail of the content… 😒

[@oldmickymicky]

Expecting there to be improvement on the pitch when the environment around you is rotten (even the roof leaks) is a joke. Ineos couldn't afford the whole club what makes you believe they have money to improve anything???? Clear out from the top, start with Joel Glazer

[@Isaac-l4j4n]

don't think we've even scored at anfield for about 9 years

[@eoinmaguire6691]

We've always found something we could defend them with we'd find something to say but now especially since Bournemouth there's absolutely nothing we can say to defend them just can't defend the undefendble and after that Bournemouth game it was the first time I admitted out loud that there a shocking side the worst in my time and the reason I started supporting utd was because Frank Stapleton was my favourite player way back then and he played for same school boys club as me.. So yeah worst team in 43yr no question.. Stick Tom Heaton in goal just to take onana out of the firing line if anything

[@stephenbadman697]

They and the fans should have been patient with a man who won two trophies in two years yet now your sprouting the patient card. Nonsense. We were on the right path under ten hag. This club is a circus

[@MerryChristmas3]

Totally disrespect from the female. I've been supporting United before it was born. Don't understand. You're what's the problem with the fan base, dividing North & South. We have enough division in our country. We don't need her talking total BS. So fans who don't even live in the UK , what about them? Seriously, it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

[@wayneranicar8530]

I hope amorin isn't a one trick pony???

[@briandevitt6903]

Simple question, should the new manager not be able to motivate and inspire his players to improve? If ETH was that bad, should Amorim not be able to make them better through his quality as a coach? Is it okay for him to decide none (or almost none) of these players are good enough for his system?

[@scottsinner7530]

No, no and yes.

[@briandevitt6903]

@scottsinner7530 so he shouldn't have to inspire motivate them..........nor should he be able to improve them with his coaching. I wouldn't employ him so.

[@JustJonny1990]

Stick with the 3-4-3. From what I've seen this lot couldn't play a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-3-3 so may as well go through the pain in hopes something sticks. Ten Hag abandoned his principles in season 1 for short-term gain, and we've been shite ever sense, so maybe we walk the hard road now for potential riches down the line.

[@ClipboardKeith]

Just gotta say that talksport is fantastic

[@stevoc9930]

His job shouldn't be under threat but the club should make it clear results and CL football in the short term have to be the priority.

[@paulward5158]

We are miles away from CL level. His target for this season should be top 10. Next 2 seasons top 8, then 2 seasons of top 6, then a good 4 seasons of top 4, if we manage that, then we can look at a title push, we're bout 10 years off winning a league

[@stevoc9930]

@paulward5158 🤣 The mad thing is you might be serious 🤔

[@ste4392]

My only concern with him so far is nothing has improved. The silly mistakes are set pieces now and we're set up so poorly from them. Didn't he bring his own set piece coach?

[@scottsinner7530]

I don’t think it’s a tactical issue on set pieces as much as it is lack of individual commitment and effort and intelligence. Like everywhere else on the pitch.

[@ste4392]

​@@scottsinner7530 I don't think it's a coincidence we've conceded, directly from corners twice. Teams are targeting how we're set up. We've conceded 10 set pice goals this season I think, 7 under Amorim, it's a huge problem. We also aren't playing better football. We saw little bits at the beginning, of good attacking patterns and now it's the same shite. I'm Amorim in and give him the time he needs, but I'm worried about the owners cutting ties quick if we're still bottom half in march. Which doesn't look unlikely

[@vaughanlockett658]

Not sure he will hang around if we get relegated.

[@jhaych]

We won't

[@dodgysmum8340]

Form went down by 50 pc when he started this flat back 5 rubbish- he’s got to amad back to wB

[@aayushvarma9489]

The last time a culture change for the better was undertaken at ManUtd, was when Sir Alex took over...and it took 6yrs for him to win his first title. Those six years, we had similar performances and league positions. And these players are not world class in the tactics that suit them. So why should Amorim change for them? 6 managers + 1 interim, who all tried to adjust themselves to fit the team, should prove that nothing can be gained from asking Amorim to change.

[@MrGrantspants]

Culture change is long and painful but necessary. We have to accept that for any chance of success in the future. Change the players, not the manager. Fit in or fuck off.

[@petermullenigrd14]

Bruno Fernandes has been sent off 3 times this season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is that good enough.

[@Stegibbon]

Luke Shaw would be perfect for the system tbh. Either in LCB or LWB. Shame he doesnt exist.

[@francisstephens9828]

Talk Sport is full of over rated TOSSERS. Starting with the Fortune 500 CEO South London spiv. Simon Jordan!

[@Trulyontube]

No more time for Amorim sacked him ASAP!....its not about the proses its about his favoristm for some players that bring this club down! if Amorim stay...player like bruno will never leave the club! he will be our captain for the next 2 years!...AMORIM OUT START T HE CLEAN UP!

[@darrenenright1728]

Dalot is fitness is top drawer but as a player ,overrated! Do well to stay up if Amaroin doesn't bolster the defence up??

[@qfnoyvoy6353]

He needs to play 1 winger at wingback. I appreciate most options are poor there but we played better with one wingback who is an attacker.

[@babayaga5197]

Ineos not Manchester United level

[@sbusbebe3620]

To control New castle. Play Zirskee like we played Weighorst pushing Rashford and Ganacho upfront then shaw on the 10th spot next to Casimiro and Ugarte in the middle then Dalot, Delit, Martinez and Masariou at the back. Sub Amad, Manoo, Hujlund, McGuire, it will be much better this format. Rashford. Ganacho Zirskee Shaw. Ugarter Casimiro Dalot. Delit. Masariou Martinez This formart at home playing two touches max and getting both Rashford and Ganacho and Zirskee to fall back we can crowd Newcastle and then catch them on a counter knowing Rashford and Ganacho will be running forward.. u need Shaw, Zirskee, Rashford, Ganacho to be running super hard. Then when they tied u bring Manoo and Amad and Hujlund. This is the only way to compete against Newcastle.

[@seankelly9447]

The 3 best on youtube. Great work as always

[@nimatorabi5846]

This is no longer a manager nor players issue! This is a cultural issue, and I am willing to bet that the INEOS reign is not working, and players who have a brain, including Bruno are wanting to leave the club! These performances are only indications of such…

[@saffy4352]

Absolutely 0:13, I agree! I said the same, 'Portugal league is not the same as English Prem.' I think amorim will not be able to resolve man united crisis.

[@joetownsend8305]

What about Arne slot coming from the Dutch league and has taken Liverpool to the next level? It’s nothing to do with the manager YET it’s the quality of players we have.

[@scottsinner7530]

That explains all of the historical success with English managers in the Premier League then. Oh wait.

[@scottsinner7530]

That explains all of the historical success with English managers in the Premier League then. Oh wait.

[@ThirdEye...]

From where C.Ronaldo comes from? 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@DonaRoss]

It's difficult for your playmaker to be effective when the midfield is not stable, that's why Odegard has Merino and Declan Rice (both DMs) behind him; that's why Szoboszlai has gravenberch and McAllister (both DMs) behind him; that's why Cole Palmer has E.Fernandez and Caicedo (both DMs) behind him. Bruno has Ugarte (amazing DM) and Mainoo (attacking midfielder) behind him, that doesn't ensure stability. It's Ugarte doing most of the work there; Odegard, Szoboszlai, and Cole Palmer would struggle in Man United's midfield. There's a reason why the title contenders have two DMs behind their playmakers. before Amorim resumed, Ugarte formed a solid partnership in midfield with Casemiro, in 4 matches, we won three and drew one. When most managers take over mid season, they don't make drastic changes, they make subtle changes. Ruud used the same formation as ETH but he dropped Eriksen and started Ugarte which paid off. Amorim comes in, changes the formation to three at the back, drops Casemiro and brings in Mainoo to a double pivot role and Mainoo hasn't looked good in the role, Ugarte is overworked as a result, Bruno is overworked. He's made drastic changes. How many times will we go back to the market to solve our problems? These guys won the fa Cup last season, 5 players added this season, shouldn't we be stronger? This squad should make it to the Europa League final match and even the carabao cup final and finish at least 4th in the league. The formation doesn't suit us or the EPL, we've seen many teams throwing in bodies into our box and forcing our defenders to make mistakes, with one DM, Ugarte and Mainoo are outnumbered. Regardless of whom he signs that formation will struggle in the EPL.

[@Rio01Man]

We need results not excuses from Amorim.if we wanted to suffer we would have stuck with Ten Hag.we brought Amorim coz we needed an improvement....he should look for a solution and fix this shit asap before it gets messy

[@rishikamath6718]

Say what you will about Mark Goldbridge's content but he's welcoming of United fans from all over the world. Jay and Joe laughing at Angelina's comment is exactly why this channel grows at snail's pace. There's only so many people in "The North".

[@grahamdoonan869]

The hardest fans to listen to are the Manchester ones alway get a rashford comment in get fucking over it he’s shit had one good half season where he was shit at the end . I grew up with Rooney as are star how has an average player like Rashford become a United star

[@EllenWst]

Because he's a local lad, who locals want to do well because he's part of them. Your comment shows exactly why non Mancs don't get it

[@petermullenigrd14]

Why would a player like casemiro not understand coaching tatics. Is it not enough money or he does not give a fuck.

[@NikuaRanger]

Get rid of Rashford, Zirkzee, Garnacho, Antony, Eriksen, Casemiro, Onana, Bayindir, Mason, Luke Shaw, Lindelof, Jonny Evans, Malacia, Dalot This season is totally lost. Bring in the kids, this is a pre-season now. Need about 10 signings, can't spend 50M on all of them but theres many cheaper options, Snipe with Pacience and Data Knowledge for the summer/future. GK in my opinion is the most urgent one after the rashfords and the casemiros of the squad, that Onana doesn't even jump/try

[@FrankBojczuk-j6t]

stop the goals 3-5-2

[@chrisclassical7]

the loss against bournmouth was down to player mistakes, the loss against forest was down to player mistakes, the loss to wolves was down to player mistakes. united need to try tom heaton in goal and give bruno a rest.

[@morryau]

right now its INEOS who need to leave and take the glazers with them. the cost cutting they are doing while not fixing the problems on the pitch where it matters, is digusting. they need to renegotiate, shaw, Malacia, lindelof, Casemiro and Mounts contracts to reflect there contribution to the team. But the ownership would rather sack people and stop christmas dinner than deal with that problem. Its becoming more and more clear that INEOS either lack the funds or like the Glazers are unwilling to put money in to fix the clubs problems. if thats the case get out so we can get someone in who will

[@chrisclassical7]

could united not sell the women's team to themselves like other teams do to get money in to spend on players

[@shabtraxx]

Hmm feels like the same problems in the previous system tho

[@johncollins627]

We're in deep trouble lads and ladys

[@jamesdawson5905]

Keep doing the same thing and hope something changes 😁Why does Paddocks golden boy (trash) get 150 games, Onana gets unlimited games where hes still dogshiite, yet bayindir gets only one! Make it make sense! Change the keeper, hes crap, and you cant polish a turd! Play Heaton, but change something!

[@19martin2012]

I'm 62 years old and this is the worst United side ever assembled and that includes the side that dropped out ob the top flight 73/74

[@jongallagher9280]

Amorin will be sacked by the end of the season, he has come in trying to make a name for himself, but the facts are he is trying to play a system he doesn’t have the players for on the basis that it was successful in league nos. He’ll be gone before he gets a meaningful transfer window. I’m basing this on us getting drawn in to a relegation fight this season.

[@stevenanthony2482]

Too many players in this team are used to mediocrity/losing. We need a proper clear out. Amorim isn’t to blame.