Why Is Elon Musk Like That?

[@SecondThought]

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[@rickykirk2203]

Thanks for everything you do! Fantastic video

[@ingamgoduka57]

Weird little guy spilled my coffee underestimated roast.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Mad_Possum]

what is your opinion of Foundations of Geopolitics by Aleksandr Dugin?

[@qh5163]

Do a video with alternatives: Communist parties which can be voted (Please note: Trotskism is not communism nor socialism)

[@TheFabledSCP7000]

​@@internethardcasesounds like you're upset that you can't say the n-word You can cry inyour mother's basement. We don't need to see that

[@hikermichael9443]

"Their freedom doesn't mean your freedom" is the single greatest sentence you've made as of late. It's simple, applicable to many ideologies, and empowers people with knowledge. Love the channel.

[@nates9105]

Right, when they say "State's Rights" they dont mean the people's right. Only that it should be the aristrocrate's rights as legislators, as lords, should have the right to enact cruelty without being challanged 😂

[@ehulbert5]

Their freedom means free to exploit.

[@Forlornskyes1438]

I mean thats a basic precept of political economics. More power for one class drains power from all other classes.

[@vebdaklu]

"Slaves, you should fight for your owners freedom to own slaves. What, you don't want to fight for that?! So, you are against freedom?" That's pretty much the unironic pitch being sold to us.

[@Briman2052]

Musk is handled by Ari Emanueal, a m0ss@d asset.

[@savvyowl6365]

at this point i came to only one conclusion, everything started with Reagan 😭😭😭

[@suicune2001]

That's something I've been noticing lately. That seems to be when we entered the worst timeline.

[@raltzei8120]

Honestly pretty much…

[@Mossaab-kg3cj5hc5s]

You mean Ronald 6 letters Wilson 6 letters Reagan 6 letters ? yeah I think it's petty obvious.

[@debdebberton]

this fate was inevitable when the country was christened in the blood of millions of indigineous lives. laying it at the feet of individual people is thinking entirely too small. it is wovn into the very fabric of the country's existence.

[@abas656thegodemperor9]

The united states was horrible since it's burth, did you all conveniently forget the genocide of the natives?

[@tasantana1174]

"The anti-government capitalist who have no problem taking government handouts " - them in a nutshell.

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

The hypocrisy of Ayn Rand.

[@Bobsbobss]

Look up the 1960s and why everything was going so well 😂

[@membear]

Welfare for the rich bootstraps for the 99.9%.

[@GrayWolf448]

those "government handouts" are provided with your tax dollars though... You're just taking back what they took from you.

[@user-rr9lv9ll4x]

​@@membear Sorry, no bootstraps or soup for you!!

[@onyxhammond5358]

“their freedom doesn’t trickle down” was a fantastic line

[@ey67]

Everytime saint Ronny Reagan s adult diaper overflowed, we got trickle down economics..so buy more toilet paper and diapers asap. The shit is always getting deeper than anyone can manage. Invest in sewer stocks as well. Mission accomplished

[@bronnismofo]

Classic commie line.

[@onyxhammond5358]

@@bronnismofo absolutely my friend

[@mb778_]

@@bronnismofo wait, second thought's a commie? first i've heard of it

[@Briman2052]

Elon Musk is handled by Ari Emmanuel, a mossad asset.

[@PikaPetey]

So in other words, spoiled rich brats, whove never been told "no" dont like being told "no" and will actively dismantle anyone telling them "no"

[@asamanthinketh1937]

I agree with you. He is a madman. But that makes him also so successful

[@Jeebs544]

And the government are basically helicopter parents.

[@victorialeif9266]

From what I’ve seen of E.M’s childhood, he was raised by an abusive and narcissistic father, and so was D.T. Together, they are like that phenomenon in which two dangerous people come together and enable each other to do horrible things. I now think that we’ve just been hit with the American Brexit. On another side note, anything that comes out of the military industrial complex will be used against people. The hippies lost their way by forgetting their anti-war stance.

[@tubecated_development]

@@internethardcaseMegalomaniacal sociopathic narcissism is always based.

[@final_catalyst]

(Not defending him or others) The only way you become that rich is you are unable to accept "no" You either succeed or crash out. And investors don't want realistic/honest they want certainty (even if false) so some one who doesn't understand no will seem like they know what they are doing and when money hits a critical mass it snowballs

[@suekuarell4685]

He is a ceo, with a ceo mindset. He simply is the kind of person thinking "if i was wrong, i wouldnt have the power i have", nearly every ceo i worked for has been like this. "I am boss, i am right". Thats all

[@alexjulius69]

Obviously, cuz I don't see you running a successful business, so why would any CEO listen to you?

[@ecodes8498]

​@@alexjulius69doesn't look like he runs them though. People always underestimate the power of the few good skillfull people have. They can make any company run on autopilot.

[@eh1702]

@@alexjulius69 Obviously, cuz suekuarell’s daddy didn’t own a few emerald mines like Elon’s daddy, so the bank wouldn’t lend suekuarell a million bucks like it lent 18 year old Elon.

[@chigeh]

Exactly, there is a big difference in the politics of tech ceos and tech workers

[@vittorianesse]

CEO on ket for anxiety/depression and Trump is on a methylphenidate for ADD.

[@RaghavV-rk2zn]

Their power, their money, their freedom will NEVER trickle down. The flow will always be upwards, never towards the common man.

[@Buffy-the-Karenslayer]

Unless we STOP THEM. FFS THERES MORE OF US!

[@lopezb]

Elon was born VERY rich, but he hides that. They had one of the nicest houses in Pretoria, and his dad drove him to private school in a Rolls Royce convertible.

[@tracesprite6078]

Their money/power/privilege is like a bloodclot in the body politic.

[@LOLE_Editz]

​@@lopezbHe certainly has a long history with segregation and apartheid.

[@eaglefly1870]

The question for Americans is when is enough, enough? Due to the dumbing down by America's media unfortunately capitalism has a long runway.

[@IndigoEuphonium]

Tech billionaires when big government: 😠 Also tech billionaires when big government gives tax cuts, grants, and lucrative government contracts: 👉 👈

[@masterofalltrades_]

Elon could've maintained his reputation as some typical multi-billionaire tech bro, but he ruined his reputation to turn into a full-blown right-wing oligarch who bought the US election and who regularly tries to boost far-right figures and politicians in other countries too. Now he's spewing the dumbest right-wing rhetoric online, blaming marginalised and poor people for economic problems, while he's directly influencing the incoming administration to help with his exploitative and corrupt business practices.

[@epothos1]

Old shit same as new shit

[@0NEisN0THING]

​@@epothos1 For now. Change comes when workers cant feed their kids. Everybodys surviving

[@ericschmitz03]

Poor people when taxes: 😡 Poor people when free welfare: 👉👈 Literally the same thing, what is your point?

[@uncomplicatedi]

​@@ericschmitz03so true. When a 250 billionaire gets another billion it's the same as when a dollaraire gets another dollar. Wan kar

[@Blbnrkn]

Damnnn bro.. KZbin algorithms didn't bring you in front of me for a while, so i missed so many videos from you until this one. It's all good. Now I have something to watch for a while.

[@SecondThought]

Welcome back!

[@NightSkeptic]

I signed up for this one guy who was right-wing, but only a little and it resulted in recommendations to all sorts of brainrotted, tin-foil hat fashies. Where are the leftists? Not the shitlibs, the *lefties*?

[@dominosnostradamus2415]

Keep doing the good work for this country sir

[@samoanquarterback]

Same as for me. It's great to watch your vids again, @SecondThought

[@Emma-Maze]

@Blbnrkn can we watch together :( I'm depressed at the state of things and I make great popcorn

[@quinnborky]

the background with hippies makes SO much sense. I spent much of my life baffled by how people so seemingly progressive in their young adulthoods could end up embracing neoliberal capitalism, and this really connected a few dots for me

[@behr121002]

Yep, well said. Those thoughts have had me scratching my head for decades

[@rachelsparks732]

That's one of the questions that's led me to this video. I've read numbers of books of the subject of hippies & Neoliberalism. Mostly trying to connect the dots. Pretty much figured it out but explaining it is still vague & hard.

[@RoadtoArkham]

Agreed. I’ve always seen the connection between the crunchy to alt-right pipeline, since crunchies already believe conspiratorial and anti-science bullshit. But the hippies were a mystery. Turns out it was privilege and selfishness all along.

[@mpoharper]

They were never open to other people’s views.

[@RndmAnvgr777]

Long story short, hippies always sucked. Cartman was right

[@GreyCrowe]

Being born in 1981, it's been a trip to watch the American Neolib character arc unfold. And equally as trippy watching the Baby Boomers undue so much of their parent's sacrifices, after a lifetime of reaping thier benefits.

[@BrianMoore-uk6js]

I feel like both Trump and Biden are the boomers middle finger at my generation.

[@cmbells7736]

​@@BrianMoore-uk6jstry not to feel that way because it will slow creep hate of neighbors or all people of that generation. I assume

[@BrianMoore-uk6js]

@@cmbells7736 I feel that way because neither one listens. They tell us what to think. They’re just not interested in listening or understanding reality.

[@cmbells7736]

@@BrianMoore-uk6js I hear that i wish I had some good advice for ya, I really don't i struggle with it also. Don't tell my fam but sometimes I just put it in my head they are nut bars and try to just continue to show them compassion, empathy and every once in a while, not to frequently because i don't want to push them in a corner, call em out on they manipulative tactics and express that I don't like it. I have to ignore alot of things and I'm pretty sure I'm being driven mad by them at times, so like I said I wish I had good advice for ya. I don't but that's how a generally am able to exist and communicate a bit with most my family.

[@DaughterofDiogenes]

Haha born in 80 and I just don’t talk to my family much anymore. They are all insane. Everyone is so freaking insane. And also hateful. It’s so wild.

[@nhennessy6434]

I remember there was a scene in the movie "Don't look up" where they were outlining a solution and the tech billionaire called aside the person in the middle of their presentation and had them nix it because the solution did not involve his company, and was, therefore, something he would not profit from. As a result they implemented his utterly ineffective solution and doomed the entire world while he took off for another star system on board a ship reserved for his privileged circle. Sound like anyone we know?

[@Davis-q1s]

I'm biased. Against genocide, fascism and cruelty, I'm biased as hell.

[@katecoffee4744]

As it should be 👍🏻

[@SlickNinja1984]

Congratulations, and welcome to socialism/communism, comrade!💯⚒️✊🏾✊🏿🇵🇸🇨🇳🇮🇶🇺🇲🇰🇵🇷🇺🇻🇳🇱🇦

[@EnverHalilHoxha1917]

amirite

[@d.w.stratton4078]

You misspelled based, matey.

[@SeppukuSoup]

@@d.w.stratton4078 divine comment

[@ahmedx2439]

Years ago, I had a lunch meeting with a client and she told us about her son working at Space X and feeling miserable about working for Elon and how much of a psycho he is. She told us that Elon doesn’t want ppl to walk in his direction if he is walking around. At first I thought she was outta of her mind but after reading about him in depth more, I realized that she was saying the truth.

[@Perseus5]

I mean, he's a tyrant, so it does sound like him. Everything in the future will look so depressing and extremely unfair under these capitalists controlling the world.

[@asamanthinketh1937]

The difference between a genius and a madman is success….

[@masterofalltrades_]

Elon could've maintained his reputation as some typical multi-billionaire tech bro, but he ruined his reputation to turn into a full-blown right-wing oligarch who bought the US election and who regularly tries to boost far-right figures and politicians in other countries too. Now he's spewing the dumbest right-wing rhetoric online, blaming marginalised and poor people for economic problems, while he's directly influencing the incoming administration to help with his exploitative and corrupt business practices.

[@JJ-iy5cq]

​@@asamanthinketh1937 and a wee bit of the 'tism

[@AD-ub7ly]

@@asamanthinketh1937damn, you mean to say all those max security prisoners are there cause of a simple skill issue????

[@xxPeaceAndAnimexx]

I swear to God everything wrong with modern America can be traced back to Ronald Reagan

[@loganmedia1142]

Well Nixon did give us the war on drugs, although that psychopath Reagan escalated it substantially. Many of the Reagan era laws are still on the books. Even Musk I believe has been on the receiving end.

[@joshk.6246]

Maybe the last 40-50 years but the BS Reagan slung is nothing new under the sun.

[@davidrossi1486]

You’re so young. It used to be Nixon. Before that Eisenhower. As long as they have an R after their name, they are the devil. Such depths of thought.

[@GordonCaledonia]

It can be traced back to TELEVISION and now... DA WEBZ, which even your great-grandma is on.

[@-Ice_Cold-]

I don't think America was that mess like right now

[@liasonlee1248]

"The freedom to help everybody? Nah nah nah, you got the wrong idea, it is freedom to hurt anybody"

[@lopezb]

Well put.

[@debdebberton]

this reads like a brother ali lyric 💯🔥

[@DagobertX2]

The freedom to help me, myself and I.

[@Dasbush121]

First Lady Elon Musk. The fallout between the 2 narcissists will be great to watch.

[@jptothetree]

😅

[@pluto9000]

😅

[@sexonlithium]

I haven't watched the video so Idk if I'll shift my opinion but i think they need each other more than they conflict with each other and they both have to know that.

[@Kateshaia]

You want some popcorn?

[@TheDennys21]

Elona Musk-Trump

[@redfoxninja3173]

Wealth doesn't equal intelligence!

[@membear]

and he's intelligent and an idiot all at once.

[@xlntnrg]

Intelligence is dangerous in the wrong hands.

[@-Ice_Cold-]

@@xlntnrg dangerous for those who in power

[@normlang1994]

I know it's not what this video is about, but it has to be said... REAGAN RUINED EVERYTHING!!!

[@VoonNBuddies]

A few years ago, allegations surfaced that Musk propositioned an employee on his private jet for sexual favors. When asked to comment by a publication, he instead countered by asking for an extension, delaying the breaking of the story. In the 48 hours between that decision and the release of the story, he didn't provide a comment, but he did publicly announce his switch from Democrat to Republican. He also hinted that this switch would result in fake stories of misconduct surfacing soon. The story did surface, and his new allies have happily protected him from its consequences.

[@JessMN1974]

Interesting

[@trumpet12345]

He definitely feels the need to be a pervert (and loves drugs) luck though at least he doesn't seem to be into children.

[@nfzeta128]

I remember that one and the sexual favours story just sunk under the waves.

[@VoonNBuddies]

@@JessMN1974 !

[@bronnismofo]

@@VoonNBuddies nothing illegal about a proposition.

[@elpear]

Having lived thru this era in CA, also having worked for one of elon's companies, I haven't understood the origins of this ideology. Very enlightening. Just signed up for Means TV. Thank you!

[@MeansTVstudios]

Welcome to Means!

[@noncompeteclause]

I’m sorry but trump saying “elon, because he’s not very busy, will head that department” TOOK ME OUT

[@TheMalmut]

Same here. CEO of 3 companies, but not very busy. Almost as if CEO's aren't really working hard for their inflated income.

[@GuacJohnson]

@@TheMalmut hes also got one of the highest lvl diablo 4 accounts: bro barely does any work in a given day and we're supposed to pretend like it's not obvious how easy it is to be in his position

[@EarthWingedDragon]

@@TheMalmut It is infuriating, considering how Elon Musk likes to promote his intense work hours and claim he works as hard as the engineers.

[@differentname5867]

Erm... I think it was quite clearly an attempt at a sarcastic quip

[@banksta3]

Trump is 1 of the unintentionally funniest people on the planet.

[@Rockyzach88]

Spot on. For these people "libertarianism" is "my right to stand on top of the workers that provide value for me"..

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

"Don't tread on me, because I should get to tread on everyone else." That's how I view libertarianism in practice today.

[@hannahbrown2728]

Considering how batshit Ayn Rand one this seems like its been the case the entire time, am I missing something?

[@merbst]

no matter how divorced I get, I will never be able to be as divorced as Elon.

[@seankelly1291]

Yanis Varoufakis calls this all "Techno Feudalism". Thank you for clarifying the history of it as a movement. I had no idea.

[@JR-mr9td]

Engineers who refer to Ayn Rand as philosopher.

[@tonyduncan9852]

Spare us.

[@FriendlyFoxes]

The absolute best way to recognise these people is if they refer to Ayn Rand or her work in a non-negative way.

[@caffetiel]

I mean, she technically was. She was also a methhead, antifeminist, grape fetishist, all-around terrible person. A person can be many things, including bad at both personhood and philosophy

[@lopezb]

Exactly! I read and was fascinated by The Fountainhead in High School- that lasted about a week, after which I had grown out of it. In college, in addition to my main emphasis on math and science, I was fortunate enough to take some challenging history courses. Including on Nazi Germany. That plus reading about the USSR cured me of any possible antidemocratic tendencies. I view America and Ukraine as the biggest hopes for the world at the moment, but now with Trumpian America heading towards a disaster, Argentina-style. Elon and the other tech bros clearly are abysmally ignorant on all these counts. They are willfully ignorant of their own ignorance, as that gives them the excuse they need to exploit others and just get rich with no apparent guilt. At least for now....

[@cockatooinsunglasses7492]

​@@lopezbI fear that we may be experiencing a form of capitalism Lysenkoism. Too many billionaires owning too many things and directing too much policy.

[@tristanotear3059]

I was around for part of this history, but I’ve never heard it presented in such a coherent way. I didn’t know that about Stanford being founded by a eugenicsist, but it makes sense; it has always been the most conservative of Ivy League, if you can call it that. Eugenics had its foundation in the Social Darwinism that practically leapt off the pages of the Origin of the Species and adapted itself to the social sphere, at the heart of Manifest Destiny, continuing in the ideas of slavery apologists, in Italian fascism, in Ayn Rand and Reaganism, blossoming recently in Trumpism. Its central idea is the law of the jungle, a place of unending conflict where men could slaughter each other and come out dominant. (Pete Hegseth, the self-designated warrior, has stated he believes precisely this. )And this dominance is merely the product of deterministic nature. If one prevails, one is superior by natural law. If one fails, one is inferior. (This is part of Calvinism, so it fit in nicely with capitalist dogma.) The ultimate expression of this is the psychopath, who is too busy asserting his male dominance, and has no patience with, say, frills like empathy or democracy. And that brings us to Musk, to Trump, to Gaetz, to DeSantis, to Andreesen, to Altman. I never ever believed that this Orwellian despot Musk was in the least a “free speech absolutist.” He has not the capacity to believe in any ideal but his own supremacy. It’s the age of the psychopath, and it’s his free speech, not mine or yours.

[@eh1702]

Actually, Darwin was disgusted by “social Darwinism”. He believed it was a gross mischaracterisation or misunderstanding of “fitness” and of the various processes of evolution.

[@lauriethompson740]

Yes it's definitely interesting that it was founded by a eugenicist, but that doesn't prove it still is like that, so we need to see evidence that this was 'enshrined in the institution'. Eugenics was a common belief before the Nazis, people like HG Wells were signed up. Pretty much every institution and person of the past won't meet modern liberal moral standards, Jefferson owned slaves, Lincoln was a white supremacist, he even managed to be against slavery on the grounds of white supremacy! Even the most egalitarian version of Christianity that fought slavery, Quakerism, had to be convinced into that stance, many Quakers started off slave owners, are we to conclude that Quakers today are 'residually racist' therefore? So it would be help to see evidence that Stanford is still eugenicist

[@Rudol_Zeppili]

Social darwinism was always a complete misunderstanding of what Darwin wrote and Darwin fought back against that interpretation of his theory, although he was unfortunately unsuccessful and the theory took root in the west at the time.

[@jedsanford5065]

I personally think we underestimate the degree to which algorithms are shaping behavior right now. People like Musk I describe as ideologically weak. And social media algorithms effect their behavior in a Pavlovian way. This is exactly what happened with Joe Rogan as well. The addiction of social media is two fold, there is the addiction to approval and their is the addiction to the power of trolling, and you see Elon as being behaviorally shaped by both of these.

[@grannyninja3253]

I agree on the algos...behaviorly...research Masonry...

[@gildedpeahen876]

i agree with this seeing young men fall for the "red pill" woman hating incel stuff has been really crazy. that's some kind of weird intelligence project imo

[@membear]

Joe Rogan got a $100 million contract and wants tax cuts, he forgot he comes from the working class and got lucky. His last comic special was horrible, had to turn it off in the first 5 minutes, he is not a funny guy,

[@whensonzhou4174]

I was a hard core fan of his space project and EV, then his stance during the diver incident have me doubting. Then his inability to control himself on twitter peal off all the good PR he had and reveal what's in his mind, then material analysis just gave me the final answer, that he was always like this

[@lopezb]

just the same for me. The diver thing raised questions, but now the mask has come off. It's sad because is is autistic, and has some wonderful aspects, but now he has jumped the shark totally and is a real danger to us all.

[@perseuspersikus6830]

His PR machine worked at first. They could hide him. Then he got out of control. Simple

[@brianfox771]

@@lopezb I don't think he is autistic. Folks with autism in general have a hard time being dishonest. Elon has been a confidence man since his start in Silicon Valley. He is perpetually dishonest. What he really is is a sociopathic raging narcissist.

[@Threedogsinatrenchcoat]

Remember "the tesla semi is far more efficient than rail, it just needs more gov stimulus 🥹👉👈" Or hyperloop will be a tram in a full vacuum and safe for passengers. Or im going to tunnel highways under every large city even though every large building owns the ground and has very deep structural support systems. Or tesla roof shingles produce so much power you will make the purchase price back in selling excess electricity in three years. Or rockets will overtake private jets as the predominant means of transit for c suite/celebs/officials. Or full self driving will be out next quarter ♾️. Or robo taxis will be promised whenever wall street needs to offload a large tesla position. Or twitter will be the sole crypto bank of the world in a few years. Or.................. 🐍🛢️

[@kevinmathewson4272]

Here's some tech freedom for you. Sites like youtube should be public utilities, the servers and their contents should belong to the public and we should have fine-tuned individual control over what the suggestion algorithm suggests to us, so we can cultivate the exact feed we want instead of what silicon valley thinks will make us watch the most ads.

[@mochavbunny]

The idea of "trickle-down freedom" perfectly encapsulates the mindsets of these billionaires, and puts into words what's been bothering me about them for ages. They have no connections to the struggles of everyday people, yet act as if their primary economic concerns equate to universal human desires.

[@Madaboutmada]

As a Californian who was 10 in 1968 and who loved the Whole Earth Catalog "how-to-do/make anything" resources, my life didn't follow the paths of the Sili-Conartists/neoliberals. The WEC lead me into the opposite direction where I could exchange goods/services as a small business owner. I definitely followed the mantra of Good Neighbors, not Silicon Valley dystopia and greed. I still live by reciprocity over consumerism.

[@lopezb]

Good for you! I also loved the WEC at that time, and made similar choices.

[@jeanbeany8462]

👏

[@cassandralyris4918]

Christian fundamentalism + Nationlism + unearned wealth + sociopathy + narcissistic personality disorder + heavy drug abuse = this shit show.

[@yukaira]

elon musk did not make paypal elon musk did not make paypal elon musk did not make paypal elon musk did not make paypal elon musk did not make paypal elon musk did not make paypal elon musk did not make paypal elon musk did not make paypal elon musk did not make paypal

[@timmy-dubs]

He was part of the PayPal mafia

[@sagm5674]

did not make

[@tasantana1174]

Well technically he didn't make or create anything he had others do it and take credit for simply investing. He is an investor not an inventor. This is an important detail people must realize. He is not as smart as he claims to be he hires intelligent people to make and create things any average intelligence person with a fat banking account can do that.

[@timmy-dubs]

@tasantana1174 that's crazy

[@asamanthinketh1937]

@@tasantana1174thats why all people with a fat bank account have so much money 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Lilith2718]

Remember when I first heard of him and just not seeing the hype people had for him. It just felt way too overblown for what people kept telling was this huge revolutionary thing that he had done, when it was pretty mundane in comparison.

[@AMRPK]

Musk coming from an Apartheid state is also a factor.

[@Offline219]

Even before Elon bought Twitter, it was always a mystery to me how anyone can stand being on such a toxic site. Now it's gotten a hundred times worse

[@xXWOAT13Xx]

it was fun because a lot of people, including me, had an isolated experience where it was only tweets between friends, but now the porn ads are inevitable thanks to elon musk, so i left 😔

[@drewmorrison]

There’s like 5 people I enjoy conversing with. The rest is the algorithm pushing cesspool outrage content.

[@xXWOAT13Xx]

@@drewmorrison FR the right wing shit is crazy

[@two2truths]

yeah.. Im kinda proud that I had never made a Twitter account, and still havent made an X account

[@TrentChao]

He must be doing something right. Right now, a lot of advertisers have returned to the platform. Even Disney has begged to return advertise again on X.

[@punishedvenomsnake716]

I love that you don't even have to elaborate on what you mean by "that". We all know exactly the grotesque, greedy, and pathetically insecure vibes that you're referring to without needing further detail.

[@UvekProblem]

Total delulu land at least he started showing his face where's your Chinese adopted sister? I think you should put a big disclaimer on all your videos you have a clear agenda

[@UvekProblem]

But can you elaborate for me one time because I can't find a simple explanation for it by anyone on the entire Internet I wanna know what that is

[@UvekProblem]

And just to make it clear I don't like Elon but this guy is a part of the problem as much as anything he talks about. Ever offered any concrete solutions for anything you talked about?

[@UvekProblem]

None of you can or want to debate only demagogy and monologues?

[@albertcamus886]

Are u okay?​@@UvekProblem

[@Michael-hb3ip]

Elon Musk's father had two children with his own stepdaughter. LOOK IT UP. IT'S TRUE. ELON MUSK'S FATHER WAS IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS OWN STEPDAUGHTER AND HAD TWO CHILDREN.

[@TerrenceNowicki]

The Musks are the Spucklers of South Africa.

[@membear]

And his father is no Woody Allen,.

[@entropyinreverse]

Remember when his kid completely eviscerated him on twitter? I think about that when I'm sad....

[@spenarkley]

Have you seen his kid? Freaking weirdo!

[@sassysince90]

She's on TikTok now I love it.

[@kwaaaa]

@@spenarkley Then you must not have seen her father.

[@d6wave]

what do you mean?

[@BeccaYoley]

​@@sassysince90 What's her name?

[@Captain23rdGaming]

"Cyberpunk was a warning, not an aspiration," And here we have people like musk who see it as an aspiration

[@byteresistor]

Elon's a 53 year old who thinks he's an edgy teenager. Basically the cringiest person alive.

[@thebootjournal6037]

Exactly.

[@Belly_Beane]

Omg the ad before the video was some church guy crying about his porn addiction. Algorithm, what are you doing 😆

[@NakedSageAstrology]

Thanks for the insight into your browsing habits... 😅

[@マイルス_パワー-狐のテイルスだわ]

Porn addiction is a myth, but porn compulsion is real.

[@marktaylor6491]

Telling us what we already know. Musk is the world's biggest gooner.

[@Belly_Beane]

@@NakedSageAstrology normally I’d agree, but I am constantly getting right wing ads because I consume leftist content.

[@pizaclatonddd3081]

​@@Belly_BeaneYep I've been getting that too. Better us than Normies am i right?

[@NRobbi42]

The individualist to fascist pipeline

[@NRobbi42]

No wonder Ukrainian Anarchists joined Azov

[@EnverHalilHoxha1917]

I love commonism Individualism is fascism masked by slogans of (perverted) justice.

[@HansKrause-k6r]

America makes fascism look like a picnic. Only they don’t know it.

[@VEE-z3l]

@@NRobbi42that’s one type of anarchy. Individualist. I think that should be pointed out

[@Rune-Thief]

@@ПетяСтаканов I think, you're confused.

[@erinl4111]

"Remember Reagan?" Oh how I wish I could forget

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

I wouldn't mind as much if people remember him for what he actually was.

[@bigtom1948]

@@berniethekiwidragon4382 Yep a truly evil bastard with a perpetual smile on his face while screwing you over. Nice guy for a neo-Nazi.

[@forever-and-a-day2043]

"their freedom doesn't trickle down" fantastic words, couldn't have said it better myself

[@brunopereira6789]

4:45 Reagan... Why is it always Reagan...

[@-AwaleAbdi-]

He's the devil. Him and his political wife, Thatcher.

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

Because it is.

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

​@@-AwaleAbdi-And his kooky actual wife, a superstitious buffoon.

[@FireBurns2]

Because he was another washed up tv star that wanted to control America.😂

[@MordredMS]

Him and hippies. Somehow it all leads back to them for some reason

[@BonusEggs4Sale]

Imagine having all the money in the world but being cursed to look like an adult-sized preemie for your entire life. Twilight Zone ending.

[@user-em6ie2be7x]

Elon Musk is like that spoiled rich kid who thinks everyone likes him but only like him because he's rich, but he's got too big an ego & not enough self awareness to figure that out.

[@Dusty_Den]

I think he knows and it eats him up inside. But that's probably just me anthropomorphising

[@user-em6ie2be7x]

​@@Dusty_DenHis own Trans Daughter can't stand him you'd think that would register upstairs wouldn't it?

[@liul]

​​@@Dusty_Denlove your comment, specially the last part

[@sharko5300]

No rich people do.

[@WastedContender]

better than being poor and nobody caring for you..

[@courtneys.7113]

you know it’s so funny i’ve watched your channel videos for a while and recently checked out your podcast and the difference between your professional persona on this channel versus your more laid back attitude on your podcast was SO JARRING. it’s been a pleasure learning from you and getting to know more of your personality through your content ❤️ here’s to another year of Second Thought 🥂

[@courtneys.7113]

also i just got an annual subscription to MeansTV. i am SO OVER KZbin

[@newguy6935]

Why is Elon Musk like that? Too much Ketamine.

[@newguy6935]

@Elonmuskrocket-z8q Who are you?

[@MendicantBias1]

🦞

[@ViaConDias]

He suffers from a Cluster B personality disorder. Could be a malignant narcissist or some Anti Social disorder like secondary psychopathy (sociopathy). This has been clear as day for many years for people with intimate knowledge of these disorders,. There has been no change in his personality over these last few years, he has just gotten such a large cult following that he now feels completely safe openly being himself. It is both sad and scary to see a very large part of the worlds population praising and idolizing this kind of personality.

[@maipai101]

It also proves the claim I have made time and time again that people only like autism when comes with profitable cluster b traits.

[@BlakeGeometrio]

Please stop armchair diagnosing people who are extremely rich and paid not to care as being part of the most stigmatized cluster of disorders. None of us want to be lumped in with your parents nor gho ulish billionaires. Thank you.

[@Buffy-the-Karenslayer]

He suffers from being insufferable and those who worship him think mistakenly that they’ll be let into the club and treated decently. They are in fact… bootlickers!

[@lopezb]

@@BlakeGeometrio Please stop patronizing everyone. There is nothing wrong with what he said. One can discuss things in a civil way.

[@Soniman001]

Cause the majority of humanity is a rotten as he is, they just don’t have the power or means to freely act on their worst impulses like he does and they idolize him for it

[@goitcore]

When Elon first started appearing in the news opinion on him was divided in my little circle of leftist mates. The group is smaller now, part of the group thought Elon was some kind of saviour, the rest of us saw through his act. Guess which part of the group aren't on the left anymore.

[@lopezb]

Very true.

[@endthecorruption6663]

JT, this is an absolute masterclass of an episode. Well done man.

[@parallelself]

"their freedom doesn't trickle down" dammmmmn

[@greyjund7782]

This thumbnail ate lmfao

[@SecondThought]

Which one did you get? I’m trying the thumbnail A/B testing feature

[@squeallymaniac]

​@@SecondThought the one that looks like a swastika

[@jamesmyers8619]

I got the swastika one in the KZbin app but my push notification was just his creepy face 😂. The swastika one made me laugh

[@VortexisTV]

​@@SecondThoughtyou knew what you were doing lmao

[@greyjund7782]

@@SecondThought The one with his oh so glorious jump :)

[@nottobey]

Excellent video! "Their freedom is not our freedom" that perfectly describes the reality

[@shyriu293]

The production value in this one is insanely high. Kudos!

[@SecondThought]

Thank you so much!

[@Yourmission9]

As our old thriller action packed tv shows taught us in the 90’s, “follow the money”

[@Venkman24]

For me musk is the typical James Bond villian

[@spillanegottleib1681]

Remove his toupee and he's the Donald Pleasance Blofeld

[@nadiac6439]

Elon kinda looks like Dr Evil in Austin Powers.

[@stevejoseph4514]

tons of ketamine

[@Dancingonthesun]

Don't blame the noble veterinary tranquilizer for him, he was cooked long before he ever sniffed the horse dust

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

If it was tons, we won't be dealing with his ish now.

[@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45]

His wife left him and his kids don’t talk to him. I loled.

[@andywinslow9638]

Guess money doesn't buy happiness does it? But not having makes me sad. Moneys a funny thing

[@darthdangermouse1453]

"...To where this all began, Ronald Reagan." I swear Reagan shows up every time I watch videos about why things are so bad in the US right now.

[@g0ld3ney3]

The Venn Diagram of "Free Speech Absolutists" and "People Who Want to Say Slurs" is a circle. Said it before, I'll say it again.

[@grumpyoldman6503]

not wrong in my experience. people who want to be divorced from the consequences of their immediate actions.

[@Kevin-mx4vm]

"free speech absolutist" is a slur please stop using that word

[@g0ld3ney3]

@@Kevin-mx4vm you had me going for about two seconds, well played 🤣

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

Concentric circles.

[@ultimate_cheese4694]

I'm seeing so much of this. They're all for free speech as long as it doesn't acknowledge LGBTQ, and let's them spew any hate speech they want

[@TurtleChad1]

Elon Musk is a perfect example of meritocracy being a lie

[@erin1569]

​@@ObviousTroll2016it's gotta be a bot, probably also programmed to notify of comments mentioning bots in replies.

[@Randomvietnamdude]

Bot ahh account

[@Autumn_red_fox]

bro can't decide whether or not he wants to be rw or lw

[@ObviousTroll2016]

@@Autumn_red_fox "my political opinions depend on who I'm trolling"

[@Aaron565]

He is obviously more capable of organizing towards a goal than the fools believing they would've emulated his success rather than blow the money themselves.

[@mrjades4764]

Your description of hippies as vague communal libertarians rather than socialists makes a lot of sense. That’s a proper historical materialist statement that I always had trouble reconciling beyond the weakening of movements by capitalists through appropriation of the aesthetic.

[@HeadOnAStick]

The motivating center of the hippie movement was peace and love. To them, communal life was not about leftism, it was about sharing, which was a feature of love and kindness. It was also a way to survive after they "dropped out" of the cruel and crazy world around them. And valuing personal freedom was not about libertarianism, it was about feeling their identities and values had no place in the culture and society around them and wanting to break free from those limitations. Although it might make a lot of sense, it's historically inaccurate to back-fit various -isms to what was happening with hippies in the late 60's. They were a bunch of kids who hated the world their parents had made (war, racism, religion, sexual suppression), so they broke free with their peace-love-sex-drugs-music thing.

[@mrjades4764]

@@HeadOnAStick You are right certainly about motivations, but I guess the lack of dialectical materialism and scholastic philosophy are what separates it from being a leftist movement. So despite it’s rebellious action and communal approach, it was still a movement based in fulfilling the self by removing its community from the restrictions of the globalised market, rather than seeking to improve the lives of workers as a whole and considering the ramifications of the universality of their approach. So while not intentionally libertarian, history has shown the movement has led to an increase of libertarianism, especially among that age group.

[@ItsTheFizz]

Simply put, the man got divorced... and all the gadgets in the world can't fill that void...

[@maipai101]

And his children reject him. Ouch.

[@Ს̈̉]

Also lots of cash to burn yet the void still stares deep

[@linagreenlyfe6705]

Interesting. All the world's wealth can't protect you from abandonment.

[@andywinslow9638]

Honestly I searched the Internet looking for a way not to envy him and I think you fixed it. So thank you. No seriously Im depressed and have Asperger's and that helped

[@maipai101]

@@andywinslow9638 keep in mind that it's not his Autism it's his assholishness that keeps getting his ass tagged. Many beloved aspies are loved and adored. 🥰

[@stupidevilmanguy]

To understand Elon, you have to understand South Africa, British control, and Apartheid... His family was one of the elite families who ran South Africa, and were involved in their nuclear program. This shaped his views growing up...

[@MitchellPorter2025]

"involved in their nuclear program" source? evidence?

[@zachryder3150]

"His family was one of the elite families who ran South Africa" Source? Yes, his father was very rich, but the most influence he ever had over the country was being a member of a fricken City Council.

[@TristanBanks]

​@zachryder3150 If my family owned an emerald mine, I think they'd have a bit of influence. That's how capitalism works.

[@zachryder3150]

@@TristanBanks Huge difference between being very rich and being one of the most influential people who "ran the country" in a country with hundreds of mines.

[@bdnnijs192]

​@@zachryder3150 Elon Musk is not even in a city councel today.

[@efsmiley1995]

This was an awesome breakdown of the history behind how we got here. Explains so much and frightens the hell out of me.

[@geraldgreen6794]

My brother works in the tech industry and I'll always remember how he told me that if you are black your application to anywhere in Silicon Valley goes right in the trash. That place as always been a hive of reaction.

[@alexjeffrey3981]

Yeah despite its carefully cultivated reputation silicon valley is absolutely full of libertarians who consider themselves "race realists" and "rationalists" who believe in all the fascist hits like racial iq, eugenics, and John Galt style leadership cults headed by self appointed "geniuses".

[@danielcasey7862]

Nah that’s wrong. I used to work tech. Lots of black folk.

[@series9193]

@@danielcasey7862yeah ok

[@icanhasutoobz]

@@danielcasey7862 I've worked in (or been laid off from) tech since the mid-2000s. I encountered disproportionately few black coworkers and colleagues along the way. I didn't see explicit racism happening. I'm sure "...if you are black your application to anywhere in Silicon Valley goes right in the trash." is a bit exaggerated, but all the same, the numbers never added up for me, even in the most seemingly diverse environments. Not just in the companies I worked for, but also at conferences, etc. Where exactly did you see "lots of black folks"? Because I only ever saw very few, fewer than would suggest anything remotely like legitimately equal opportunity.

[@danielcasey7862]

@@series9193 You dont work in tech if you say otherwise they follow all dei laws

[@EnverHalilHoxha1917]

BRO THESE MEMBERSHIP PERKS ARE AWESOME GOD DAMMMMMMMMM

[@peanutsveryepicchannel8699]

I respect anyone with the Lenin Stalin Kalinin profile pic

[@EnverHalilHoxha1917]

@peanutsveryepicchannel8699 obv stole it from finbol

[@Commander.Starfleet]

Where do you get those emojis?

[@jjanderson1884]

And why are you showing this soviet 💩💩💩 here?

[@z0ttel89]

Stalin was a genocidal mass-murderer. This channel liking stuff like this really says a lot.

[@darylwilliams7883]

As soon as I heard the word 'cyberlibertarianism' a chill went through me. Almost no explanation required. It's THAT soulless. And I immediately began to suspect that the Elon Musk we all thought we knew was a ruse, and has been for a long time. I suspect nothing fundamental about his haas really changed. he just has the power now to take off the mask and not care who sees him clearly for the first time.

[@ahistoryofviolence4902]

My words!

[@davidtremon]

Hello I'm from the future please do something about Elon

[@Autumn_red_fox]

up the ra

[@camelopardalis84]

You need to travel further back and tell that classmate of his who "bullied"(?) him physically to do a better job.

[@Ს̈̉]

​by better job, does that mean unalive-ing him?

[@matthewpulama106]

Shall I make him go the way of Old Yeller?

[@maxmikester8185]

@@camelopardalis84 No Go further back and make sure Reagan never became president

[@linuxstreamer8910]

my musk theory is he was akways like this but now he does now have a pr team that tones that down

[@tonywords6713]

Yup, if he was a little more self aware and clever he'd stay in the background like Peter Thiel does. Musks ego means he has to act like this Tony Stark public figure.

[@OneAmongBillions]

Another quite lucid analysis. Thanks for your dedication to humanity's well-being and progress.

[@SecondThought]

Thanks! Glad you liked it

[@sndchamp9949]

Idk if we’re in the worst timeline but we definitely are in the silliest

[@membear]

I hope another me is happy in the timeline that Hillary won, and then another in the one that Kamala won.

[@FlyInTheLotion]

Unfortunately, I have a feeling that we haven’t even got started yet competing for the worst… 😢

[@Steven-z9s6h]

Everyone I know has been calling him a white supremacist for at least ten years now, so I don’t know why this is such a shock

[@heymrnickerbocker]

He literally grew up in apartheid south africa. What do you expect.

[@ItsJustDoctor]

@@ПетяСтакановjust because modern South Africa is struggling, doesn’t mean apartheid is a good thing like you imply. Go away racist or rage bot

[@heymrnickerbocker]

@@ПетяСтаканов that the same white people still own???

[@behr121002]

Wow, excellent. Another eye-opening, investigative historical-political deep dive of critical thought and analysis. Always welcome _Second Thought,_ one of the few gems available.

[@ronaldgage3491]

Can't spell felon without Elon.

[@Rainsnowreadysetblow]

He's a bored, rich, narcissist...with too much time on his hands.

[@lukas4112]

That’s not materialist analysis. Bored rich narcissists don’t come into existence out of thin air.

[@-Ice_Cold-]

living off those who actually work a lot

[@typeviic1]

A basic human flaw is greed and selfishness. Capitalism is an economic system that prioritizes profit over people which incentives greed and selfishness. Add wealth to that mixture and you become a conservative (Joe Rogan).

[@tonywords6713]

Ha, the Whitest Kids U Know have a great sketch that nails that called "Back of the Bus"

[@WastedBananas]

there's nothing wrong with being selfish at times.

[@WastedContender]

@@WastedBananas in this system it becomes a neccessity

[@TrentChao]

Capitalism is the driver behind innovation. Greed is bad, but greed is also a motivator for people to make new things and innovate for a profit. Without greed, somebody like Steve Jobs likely wouldn't have came up with the iPhone and revolutionised the way we communicate, entertain ourselves, and collect information.

[@typeviic1]

@@TrentChao No, humans are naturally innovative. See Roman Empire and Hellenization. All economic systems known to man has innovation.

[@jokeradviser5843]

This piece is way way more than excellent. It explains our new brave world. Brace for impact!

[@Echelon730]

Are you on Blue Sky yet? I don't want to use that dumpster fire of a website run by an Elongated Muskrat

[@banksta3]

Ah yes, echo chambers galore!

[@Venvaneless]

I like my echo chamber where there are no Nazis. Thank you very much

[@Echelon730]

@banksta3 yes X is.

[@membear]

Lone Skum

[@Venvaneless]

@@Echelon730 if echo chambers mean being constantly exposed to literal na*I rhetoric, bots, porn and hate, then I rather live in my echo chamber. Why would I want to willingly expose myself to hateful bigots? Do you keep people around you loathe because "echo chamber"? Social media literally fries our brains by spreading misinformation, propaganda, hate and clickbait - all from "both sides". There's no true "liberal media" as those as well live off of clickbait and engagement is their fuel/money (y'all still remember that Buzzfeed video hating on men? Yeah). Add to this the algorithms, which push negative news and ragebaity articles to fuel engagement to further the rising division among people. I don't want to participate in it anymore, as I've seen it only makes us more and more angry, fearful and hateful towards each other. Mainstream and social media, as well as goverments across the world, live off of division and hate, each week we have our new boogeyman to hate instead of hating the system that benefits off of it. 80+ years ago it was the Jews, then in the early 90s to middle 20s it were the gays, then it was Muslims, now it's the trans people and immigrants. Politicians all around the world will fuel this exact rhetoric and one day they will use it to create a new boogeyman to invade other countries, like the US did after 9/11. I don't want any part in that. I will keep my friends and family close to cherish and protect them and don’t want any part in that division. You do you. You keep those around with similiar values to you and you keep those close that you love. With Internet it's no different. It's your choice who you interact with or if you let the media and politics divide us. If you let them, the rich will only get richer while middle class will keep shrinking until the whole system breaks apart and we either haw a new war, where we all get annihilated, new dark age of isolationist politics like in the late 80s/early 90s overtakes us or we finally take a stand against those in power. The choice is yours. I made mine.

[@spirofarmaku6772]

Musk reminds me of a character from a book called Rise and fall of comrade Zylo,the main protagonist is a bureaucrat who overestimates himself and thinks all the state hierarchy directly coincides with his personal merit, he is a tragicomic character whose actions are often unfounded and wrong but he justifies them with his "good intentions "a figure who ascribes to himself an importance and value he does not have, showing how the system of time transforms each individual into an instrument inconsistent with his true capacity and merit. At the same time, Author uses irony to highlight how protagonist and others like him are stuck in a self-destructive cycle, where silent arrogance and low-key arrogance lead to successive mistakes that rob them of every hope to progress or change.

[@Venvaneless]

I'm trying to find the eBook or book but can't find it. It seems it's a really old book. Any idea where can I buy it?

[@spirofarmaku6772]

@@Venvaneless I don't know if you will find it in English though, the author translated into Russian since he lived on USSR for few years but in English in dont know If it's translated or not

[@Venvaneless]

@ you know Albanian?

[@SmartArtzzz]

The way apartheid formed my politics and it’s been an accurate tool to read and measure things globally

[@chrisduncan5753]

Power corrupts absolute power corrupts ABSOLUTE!

[@frettymercury]

there's a podcast i love called "psychology in seatlle" which is hosted by a well-spoken, thoughtful, seasoned therapist. they have a whole multi-episode deep dive on Elon Musk that explores thoroughly his life and the development of his psychology alongside the culture/political moment in which he grew up. definitely worth checking out to better understand Musk and those like him from a psychodynamic/attachment theory perspective

[@lopezb]

Thank you!!! I just started it. (Very good, 16 episodes, but the free part is always a teaser for the second half that's for patrons...)

[@KickaHippyPK]

What's the difference between a God and Elon Musk? A God doesn't think they're Elon Musk.

[@alexjeffrey3981]

It'd be awesome to see you dive deeper into this rabbit hole as it goes waaaay deeper than I think most leftists are aware. The rationalist movement (further integrating neoliberalism and eugenics), Curtis Yarvin and Peter Thiel's fascist vision for libertarianism, even Nick Land's far right accelerationism. It's all incredibly influential over silicon valley culture - I learned far too much about that stuff when I was a startup bro, unfortunately.

[@linagreenlyfe6705]

Eugenics can be good if no one dies in the process. Ex: genetic engineering, free abortions for the poor to end cyclical poverty, etc.

[@alexjeffrey3981]

@linagreenlyfe6705 that's not the only criteria for eugenics to be okay - eugenics could also be used to try to eliminate groups of people. And a lot of these people belong to the "race realist" crowd who believe in biological determinism, evolutionary psychology and racial iq.

[@aYoutubeuserwhoisanonymous]

@@alexjeffrey3981 well, map is not the territory their beliefs can be wrong or right, but no state of the world per say justifies anything, that's a judgement people make in reaction to the world. A person can be a race realist and still advocate for racial equality. Those positions aren't mutually exclusive. Sometimes I wonder whether egalitarians who get a knee-jerk reaction to such ideas actually are lying about their commitment to equality regardless of the state of the world, but the other hypotheses that they had bad experiences and associated hold an idea with negative system 1 connotation would explain it straightforwardly. Biological determinism is probably false, but interactionist determinism is not false, there might be universal human values, like fairness which is entailed by human psychology. Evolutionary psychology can be accurate, although like majority of scientific fields a lot of non well known journals are probably questionable, people do have proximate desires like seeking comfort, or being lazy, which is actually well within evolutionary psychology, it is explains why people have those things. It's kind of a fact that racial IQ differences exist, the main debate is about the hypotheses regarding the cause. Rationalist movement rejected curtis yarvin, I think you just swallowed sensational propaganda. You can search scott alexander's neo-reactionary FAQ, a prominent thought leader in the rationalist movement, where he goes over some of their claims, the thing is the idea that one can change any of their beliefs in light of evidence led to early times in their movement where far-right or bad intent actors spread their convincing arguments, it has decreased over the years as people have gained more experience , but it still happens from time to time with one or two people getting arrested (search about this girl called ziz). Even at the peak of neo-reactionism in rationality space only a small fraction of them believed in it.

[@alexjeffrey3981]

@@aKZbinuserwhoisanonymous glad you could make it, representative of the rationalist community. Are you aware of Scott Alexander's relationship with HBDGirl, a prominent race realist in the rationalist sphere? Or that the neoreaction movement originated from within the LessWrong community? The thing that's disputable with racial iq is not the statistics, but their cause. "race realists" take the position of biological determinism, that the iq disparity is genetic and ethnic. The progressive position is that it's caused by societal factors that are mutable. And before you cite the adoption studies, they are not exactly an effective control given society still treats children differently based on race regardless of where and by who they are raised. The funniest thing about the rationalist movement to me is that they claim to essentially follow in the Marxist tradition of "ruthless critique of all that exists", but the one thing they almost universally refuse to critique is neoliberalism. It's a bedrock of rationalist thought - grey tribe and all that. Don't try to use the propaganda argument with me, by the way. I'm critiquing from the perspective of an ex-member. I used to be in direct communication with both Scott Alexander and gwern and be very active on hacker news and SSC.

[@alexjeffrey3981]

@@aKZbinuserwhoisanonymous and as a follow-up, race realists are always pulling the "why won't you at least consider it" argument. The problem is that you could have to eliminate the societal impact on race in order to even have a chance at determining any biological component, and even then, it doesn't let you _do_ anything except provide an excuse to implement a racial hierarchy. Which is why it's so suspicious that people cling to the idea - it's not actually useful for anything except fascism. And given the overlap between race realists and neoreactionaries, it leaves very little worthwhile discussion because there's a strong undercurrent of "please give us the opportunity to declare an untermensch".

[@addisongalagan2949]

I know you have to edit these videos down, but it's also interesting to note the connections between this and the techno-monarchism of Peter Thiel and Curtis Yarvin and their connection to JD Vance. Behind the Bastards did a great summary recently

[@maltymcfry]

so musk and co pretty much like "let's do cyberpunk but in real life"

[@andybaldman]

Every rich powerful person is pivoting red because they all see that’s the only way for their companies to survive.

[@serge263]

"Why is Elon Musk like that?" Simple, he was always like that. Always. The dude has always been trying to be an edgy teenager his entire life because he thinks he's cool. When in reality, he's always been a grifter and a con artist. You THINK he's awesome because he's a good hype man. Success doesn't equate to intelligence.

[@AcappellaTidbits]

I really love how Reagan could stir up "anti government sentiment"...while literally being the government, like, how do you DO that?

[@yodab.at1746]

The same way as the orange one did. The axe convinced the forest he was one of them because his handle was made of wood.

[@alexjulius69]

Because there's a more powerful force than the government itself, the trillionaire families, the globalists. Fords, Rockefellers, Rotchilds, Gates, you get the picture. That's what he was against. That's what Elon is against.

[@alexjulius69]

I'm pretty sure my comment was deleted. But basically trillionaire families are more powerful than the government, they control and influence it, and they're not nice people. We saw what happened with that one island. Ya, their work.

[@AcappellaTidbits]

Ah, yes. True, not the first time I've heard that phrase these days. Never knew it till now. ​@@yodab.at1746

[@1May1312]

This is why we need dialectical materialism. Utopianism is not grounded in a materialist analysis of the world and easily becomes fascism.

[@FacterinoCommenterino]

Today's Fact: Grace Helbig, known for her comedic vlogs and hosting 'Not Too Deep' podcast, used to work as a correspondent for the talk show 'Attack of the Show!' before starting her KZbin channel.

[@grindcoreninja6527]

Man I miss "Attack of the Show", take me back Internet man, TAKE ME BACK!

[@69Kazeshini]

​@@grindcoreninja6527that cheaters and Xplay, TAKE ME BACK AS WELL.

[@BlakeGeometrio]

​@@grindcoreninja6527Same. I miss G4.

[@nsbd90now]

They all seem developmentally stuck in adolescence.

[@rdmctague]

Multiple times Tech Wont Save us has helped me stay lightly sane, great crossover. This moment feels like the oil tycoons. A new industry captured by too few people with far too much power due to their wealth whose arrogance needs to be curbed before it harms the country/world.