Why is Elon Musk wrong on F-35 and sort of wrong on unmanned fighters?

[@Binkov]

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[@Runefrag]

You should get a real job instead.

[@arnijulian6241]

Drones should be adopted but not for the reasons Elon covers as the logistics & training of jet pilots is not a 5 minute matter but takes years. Think crossbow to bow as yes you lose range & performance but any gamer with a crash coarse can operate a drone. Western militaries have to adapt to what is available in personal but to drone will replace a jet with a pilot is cobblers.

[@STDRACO777]

I'm afraid I have to disagree. Elon is right. He is not just talking about current drone tech but future drone tech. We are already using semi-automated drones in the Ukraine war. So when the ground pilot cannot complete a mission, the drone will use AI to hit a target based on AI. Automating a plane is far easier than automating a car. It's why we had plane autopilot for so many years before cars. As mentioned in the video the drones have the benefits of g's but they will also have the benefits of speed and payload within months let alone years if people are serious of making the change. As AI or a drone pilot can fly anything a human can fly. You are not just removing pilot error caused by high g's but you are also reducing the wight drastically as you are not just getting rid of the pilot but most of the cockpit including the life support and ejection system. IOW we can take an F35 and respect it for remote piloting and it will be able to do the job better now. but more importantly, you can make a drone far cheaper and far more capable than the F35 from scratch. The additional benefit is you wont lose the pilot in the worst-case scenario. People who cannot be replaced in a few months or a year or 2. We unfortunately have pilots who have died trying to do tricks that would be laughably easy with fully automated drones. The big problem is those "unmanned aircraft" were not made to replace the f35 (if that were the case a lot of people should get fired) There is no technical limitation preventing future unmanned aircraft from outperforming an f35. P.S. I love your videos and I'm still subscribed.

[@GigaGoose123]

GRU got his diddle tapes 😂

[@jtjames79]

It would be easier to make an AI to run a KZbin channel than convince you that you are wrong. Think about that strategically. AI doesn't need weapons, it is one.

[@mc-zy7ju]

The same guy that said telsa would full self drive by 2018.

[@victorsalinas9275]

​@@BusesAreFatCars That's the cost over its entire lifetime. The F-35 is expected to serve till the 2070s or 2080s.

[@Smokedouttasian]

Elon musk is also the same guy who said we could catch a rocket. and look what happened the first try

[@pr248]

@@BusesAreFatCars Although very expensive, F35 works. Whereas the self drive Tesla will crash without human intervention.

[@RedLancerMoto]

​@@BusesAreFatCars That is the cost over its lifetime. By the end of its life, the F35 is expected to be cheaper than a lot of our other fighter aircraft. IGNORANT

[@BusesAreFatCars]

@victorsalinas9275 Yes. The cost for the program. As I said. 2088. That's the cope and excuse to try to explain away the insane cost of the program. How many 70 year old fighters are we flying today? Zero. It's absolute nonsense and you know it. The cost for the program jumped 44% from 2018 to current estimates. You think there's no problem with that? It's lunacy.

[@IrrationalCharm]

Elon just felt like being an expert in military aircraft defence systems, and decided to make an extremely complex subject boiled down to "it sucks".

[@christaylor6654]

Same way he made a rocket cause it looked cool

[@danchiers9930]

That's what he does best lol. Just make insane statements with nothing to back it up.

[@paulpindell4775]

This can't build a decent looking car 😂

[@HellaSayHella]

It's extra funny that he cited Russia-Ukraine as an example of why manned aircraft will be obsolete, or are a waste of time/money lolol. It's such an ignorant thing to say. If he was talking about tanks, I'd prob agree, but what has happened in that war to make him think advanced fighter jets are obsolete.

[@neubauerjoseph]

He just doesn’t like the idea of a human pilot he thinks like drones experts just write a program to do it for you it takes up too much space and weight . Also he wanted to design the next carrier back in 2008 and the navy said no also he wanted it all electric which isn’t possible.

[@HalfLifeExpert1]

I'd listen to Elon Musk on defense issues about as much as I would listen to a six-year-old on EU economic policy

[@zombi3lif3]

😬You gone have an issue following american politics the next 4 years

[@TheDemigans]

I'd listen to him. Some of it might be just his attempts at staying in the media by screaming stuff he hopes others wont research and just accept, but some of it might be whispered by some of his "friends". Having a better idea what those friends fear is good.

[@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko]

And that is why you are not a billionaire

[@authoritariangentleman7570]

Or the average American

[@renehenc4424]

Both would do far better than those shitheads sitting currently in Brussels.

[@196cupcake]

Ironic, since, from the Wikipedia page on Tham Luang cave rescue, "Additionally the local governor, Narongsak Osotthanakorn, stated that it was "not practical",[214] to which Musk responded that the governor was not a subject matter expert and mentioned the previous emails by Rick Stanton." Basically, when someone calls out Musk on the shit design of whatever he is pushing "not a subject matter expert" is important, but when Musk calls something else a shit design "not a subject matter expert" magically doesn't matter any more.

[@_c_y_p_3]

You just defined United States “conservative” logic. Their grasp of the real world is like stealth tech or something.

[@196cupcake]

@_c_y_p_3 You should listen to Phil Och's "love me I'm a liberal"

[@NotASeriousMoose]

​@@196cupcakeJust look at your own post. This is exactly what we mean. Tribalism is everything. Y'all right wing Americans are nuts

[@SteveB-nx2uo]

@_c_y_p_3 liberal 'logic' is you double down on oppressive corrupt government so that lazy people can also steal.

[@TheGreatAcePilot]

Exactly 🗿

[@ArkturusRX]

Dunning-Kruger effect should be renamed into Elon Musk Effect

[@aleckto28]

yep, elon musk effect.

[@grantlauzon5237]

They kinda have a similar thing called Nobel disease or Nobelitis. It's when Nobel Prize winners make bold unscientific claims. Not that he's one a Nobel prize.

[@seoKillerElite]

"Musk is dumb but thinks he's smart." "Musk is an amateur who thinks he is an expert." Yes? That is not what it means. Check it out on Wikipedia. It's being used incorrectly in popular culture. Saying "Dunning-Kruger effect" is literally what you are trying to make the "Dunning-Kruger effect into. 😂😂 ironic.gif

[@aleckto28]

@@seoKillerElite righto. the dunning kruger effect is a process....a process that elon is continually stuck in the early stages of. He displays this every time he decides to ignorantly wander in to a field of study he knows nothing about. Hes obv good at somethings, like greedy hyper capitalism....but that's it.

[@LunkvanTrunk]

@@seoKillerElite that not how it works, nobody said the wrong definition, and you get to correct him. What stupid tactic is this? and you think this comment is such a Gotcha that you post it under multiple comments? No, it's a very bad take. Everybody can open Wikipedia dude. Elon Musk has rudimentary knowledge of a topic and thinks he knows more than the whole defense sector. End of story.

[@edl653]

As you put sensors and increase range, jets/drones get bigger. At a point the added volume and weight needed for a pilot becomes less significant. Having an F-35 with the big sensor and EW capacity accompanied by drones (wingman) gives will prove to be a good balance.

[@seanp9277]

Doing so will only increase the already overtaxed cooling system of the F35.

[@TheJoshuaJames]

you can launch small drones world wide via rocket engines, which elon makes, and communicate via a global satellite communication system, which elon makes

[@edl653]

@@seanp9277 No, it was already designed for all of that. Additionally, the engines will be getting an upgrade that will increase power for cooling capacity by 7-8%.

[@seanp9277]

@@edl653 Lol!! That's some serious cope. The engine runs twice as hot as designed but somehow that is what it was designed for!

[@edl653]

@@seanp9277 Nope, false. It does not run twice as hot as designed. You are simply making up stuff.

[@octavius32a64]

Is it because he doesn't know what he is talking about ? :)

[@peterfmodel]

I hear military hot takes from civilians all the time. Unless you are in the position where you need your need to prepare for a real life conflict you cannot possibly have a useful conclusion. You can ask questions, which if they cannot be answered could indicate a gap.

[@Group.B]

@@peterfmodelmusk isn’t asking questions though, he’s making broad assumptions. Mostly because he wants in on government defense contracts.

[@peterfmodel]

@@Group.B i agree, its not helpful.

[@steelytemplar]

It certainly seemed like he didn't in those posts.

[@toddt5562]

Just because you're the richest man in the world and have had a number of successes, doesn't mean that you're an expert on everything and all your opinions are correct. 😂

[@MrGriff305-d3u]

The same guy who said he'd solve L.A. traffic with hundreds of mini tunnels pulling sleds (the most expensive and soul crushing non-solution ever). I think he's better with his engineers improving technology but not necessarily large scale strategy.

[@jaredkronk4614]

Or the hyperloop. Mar colonies will also come next year.

[@daniel_dumile]

people hate people who have brave ideas. Just because they don't work out in the practical sense or ends up having technical limitations doesnt mean it wasn't worth exploring. that is what makes a good entepenuer...they are willing to be bold. they are willing to fail. they are willing to put themselves out in the world and take criticism.

[@daniel_dumile]

every single popular musician/director/etc was hated on by many people (who do nothing with their lives), told repeatedly they would never succeed until they did. Haters come a dime a dozen. People like Elon who confront the world with new ideas are rare.

[@MrGriff305-d3u]

@daniel_dumile What you said is irrelevant to whether he's right or wrong on then subjects raised. Regardless, in civil engineering and fighter plane doctrine, he's extraordinarily wrong.

[@mrjpb23]

…any scale of technology. Can you imagine what SpaceX could become if their board of directors had the balls to fire him? Starship is a laughable lark.

[@ivanlaplante]

Because of the Dunning-Kruger effect

[@octavius32a64]

@@ivanlaplante also doorman fallacy

[@RobTzu]

@@octavius32a64 That was a new one to me, thanks for pointing it out.

[@Osmo-7777]

I learned that lastweek from a classmate😁

[@jdrex5039]

​@@octavius32a64excellent

[@mrjpb23]

Elon’s face is next to that in the dictionary

[@CasandraCasey-z6q]

Qarden Token is easily going to hit $1 this month

[@jajssblue]

The devil is in the details, not a tweet. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to parlay his AI software into a defense company. Eugh.

[@logicae4096]

Palantir is an AI player with massive government contractors already.

[@vanhoot2234]

except his ai company isnt even leading the industry.

[@XenomorphLV426]

Skynet

[@ac1455]

@@logicae4096you think they’d allow musk to buy Palantir? Might be too big a security risk imo

[@JoeOvercoat]

oh please, he’s being ignorant.

[@adrian-ck7bi]

Elon: The development of AI is the greatest threat to humanity. Elon: All fighter jets need to be remote operated

[@sdgsuperstar]

Musk has criticized the cost of the F-35, but in the context of the US military and NATO forces, maintaining and developing a fleet of multi-role fighters is essential to ensure flexibility and readiness in a variety of situations. The high cost of the F-35 may be an issue, but it can be justified by the development of highly integrated technology and long-term combat capabilities in modern warfare environments. Militaries must balance cost, performance, and sustainment, which can sometimes make choosing medium-range aircraft, rather than low-cost aircraft or UAVs, the optimal choice.

[@xxnightdriverxx9576]

The cost isnt even that high anymore due to the high numbers produced. In fact it is now routhly equal or even lower than that of many more expensive 4th or 4.5th generation planes. F-35As of the last few years are coming in at around 80-90 million dollar per plane. For comparison, the latest F-15EX is more than 90 million dollars, the F-22 was 150 million dollars, the newest F-16 Block 72 and the last few F/A 18 Super Hornets costs around 65 million dollars. For a non-US based comparision, the Eurofighter Typhoon sits at around 100 million dollars, the French Rafale is around the same price as well. People like to be outraged at large numbers but dont actually know if those numbers are reasonable. Unfortunately the cost is difficult to calculate, as the aircraft are bought in bulk (X billion dollar for Y number of aircraft) and often include spare parts and maintenance, specifically when selling to other countries, and the prices can vary widely depending on the year, country and individual deal (for example, India paid 100 million dollar per Rafale-M in 2016 and 160 million in 2024; Germany bought Eurofighers in 2007 for 120 million €, in 2009 for 90 million€, while Spain paid 160 million € in 2010). Yes the cost per flight hour is higher for the F-35 than for non stealth aircraft, but it isnt that outrageously high either. Some sources say that it is around 25.000 dollar per flight hour, compared to around 20.000 for an Eurofighter or Rafale and around 15.000 for an F-16 (one of the cheapest jets to fly), but these costs are even harder to calculate than buying price, sometimes it is not clear if fuel is included or not, and it depends on how you count parts, manhours, downtime, do you count the overhaul cylces that only happen every 10+ years, and so on. Every source is different there, so comparisons are difficult. Again people like to say "oh thats so expensive" but they forget or ignore the cost of other aircraft as well as the utility that a stealth coating can bring.

[@adamconner9302]

​@@xxnightdriverxx9576Very reasonable analysis. I would add though that I question the capacity of the F35 to hold up to sustained offensive operations with a great power. That being said it one of a number of tools in the kit, so it's likely that some of the issues I see could be achieved with a different tool.

[@xxnightdriverxx9576]

@@adamconner9302 and what you are describing is one of the many reasons why the US air force continues to invest in new F-16s and F-15s as well. Never put all your eggs in one basket.

[@adamconner9302]

@xxnightdriverxx9576 Indeed

[@xLeeroycranex]

F35s have excellent costs for putting what is essentially a stealth supercomputer in the sky, all while replacing 4000+ older 4th gen fighters across the US+Allies sphere. That includes parts, maintenance, training, etc for something that is going to being utilized until the 2070s. Due to its multirole design, it is a perfect compliment for Allied forces to develop their own fighter program/industrial base/technology to compliment it.

[@m.streicher8286]

Elon weighing in on all weather aircraft when he can't even nail all weather cruise control XD

[@mxecho]

yea tesla is struggling to meet expectations, but that flying tin can he has is on track to make airlines obsolete. 5-10 years people and freight will be able to go anywhere in the world in 45 mins

[@Wi2Low]

Tesla is not "struggling" at all. It is fricking killing it. OP is ignorant AF. Basic Bigot.

[@worldwanderer91]

F-35 can't fly in rain, hail, fog, or night

[@io2900]

​@@mxechoConcorde failed because it is too loud and expensive. How can a literal rocket be cheaper and quiter than a plane?

[@wayando]

Aircraft are easier to make autonomous ... Especially if they don't have to do dogfights

[@whyme8068]

Because Elon wants to sell Tesla self-driving drones to the government. Just like the cars, they will be automated to run into things😂😂😂

[@florianschneider3982]

🤡🤡

[@olechristianhenne6583]

Yup he's ah Moran obituary Moran on Cyber Truck

[@pauln6803]

Well that's it really isn't it? EVERYTHING Musk does is all about Elon Musk and nothing else.

[@florianschneider3982]

@@pauln6803 What are you talking about?

[@pauln6803]

@@florianschneider3982 Is this a bot, or a representative of the cult of Musk I'm addressing?

[@EssaBee]

Biggest test of this statement isn't ukraine, but Iran and Houthis vs. Israel. 99% od long range cruise AND ballistic missiles were shot down by sams and... you guessed it... manned fighter jets. F15s killed like 50 drones in one engagement over Iraq. Future may be unmanned, but you can't beat the versatility of the manned air superiority / strike fighter to deal with current gen threats. Also "hypersonic missiles" is a ridiculous term as almost every ballistic missile goes hypersonic. The actual manuevreable type of hypersonic missiles that people are hyping are extremely niche weapons to hit targets in deeply contested airspace and will likely never be more than a fringe part of military arsenals like long range cruise missiles and icbms are today. IE. They will certainly not be used in mass numbers like artillery, glide bombs or air to air missiles are today.

[@shanerooney7288]

Just because a manned fighter can shoot down a drone, that doesn't make the manned fighter better at it than unmanned aircraft. Same with firing Air-to-air or glide bombs.

[@jcnamaasshi]

no I don't think F-15 shot down ballistic missiles. It is not the point of yours but just please check it.

[@Peculiar_Velocity]

@jcnamaasshi he’s just repeating what he heard on CNN. Unfortunately today you’re going to get crap information from everywhere because everything is about confirmation bias and staying in their bubble as opposed to actual analysis because it might lead to someone figuring out something they don’t like and then having to adjust strategy which is just way too inconvenient

[@joshimuddin5454]

Every ballistic missile is hypersonic?

[@xxnightdriverxx9576]

@@joshimuddin5454 Reading comprehension my dude. "Almost every" is not equal to "every". And yes, most, possibly almost every ballsitic missle (I am too lazy to double check) is hypersonic at impact. They can reach Mach 18 (6 km per second) and up at impact. Which is why they are so difficult to intercept, despite flying on easily calculated paths. Something is considered hypersonic if it exceeds Mach 5.

[@thespalek1]

Musk is great PR stuntmaster and businessman, but he is also the guy, who suggested saving kids in a cave by inventing and manufacturing special sub and promised full auto driving 10 years ago and spacex-thrusters-equiped roadster 5 years ago... How can somebody take him seriously in these matters is just sad I'd bet it's a bid to get his AI, that was rejected by Apple, take root in state funded areas

[@lapurta22]

That's your brilliant president-elect for you. The buffoon that will be leader of the free world. Just sad.

[@grider421]

Yeah why would anyone take a crack pot like mush seriously? Oh maybe it’s because he invented the most popular and commercially successful electric car, or maybe he has become the world space industry. Recently he had his 100th successful landing, maybe because in a few years he developed the largest and most powerful rocket ever built and shortly after that demonstrated its ability to land back at the launch pad. Elon is brilliant in would not bet against anything he said he was gonna do. All this while having to fight the criminals in the federal government.

[@Kelebora]

Not to mention he said we'd have a mars colony by 2025, but its almost 2025 now and we haven't even got humans back on the moon.

[@thespalek1]

@Kelebora exactly💯

[@nasraabdullah6935]

You 100% right what I find odd if ay one was critical of Musk before he "became" republican he would be destroyed online.

[@xiphoid2011]

I'm a subject expert in the area of my doctoral degree. But unlike me, Elon seems to think his an expert in areas he has no education or experience in. I used to think highly of him before he let it go to his head, as evidenced by making a fool of himself with Twitter.

[@davidradtke160]

You and a lot of us. I’ve met lots of people like him. Smart about what they know well and then believe other throngs they don’t know are simpler then what they do know…therefore the don’t need to learn anything about it before believing they are an expert. Happens a lot with finances for doctors, especially surgeons. Make huge money so they think they understand investments etc.

[@adrianpaz472]

You mean after he stop supporting your political party?

[@brocast8921]

You can’t even write properly. Who gave you the degree ? Your imaginary friend ?

[@jsncrso]

Exactly. Elon is a brilliant individual, but he's not an expert at everything

[@Dorgpoop]

You can be the smartest man in the world (which Elon is very far from being), but if you don't know when to admit you're uniformed on a subject you'll always sound like an idiot.

[@ShawnaHanson-c4r]

Highly likely there will be partnerships between X or Tesla with Qarden Token

[@JackelynFallon]

Musk's Quarden Token announcement is coming soon. Easyest money if you get in on the ICO

[@Raivo_K]

Another crypto scam to bleed morons dry?

[@jdotoz]

This "doesn't sound like a pump and dump at all."

[@BaoRobbins]

Leaks coming out about Trump working together with shareholders involved with Qarden Token

[@artonio5887]

This account and all the other accounts repeating this are bots (if not obvious already). They were all created on 16/10/2024.

[@wraith0709]

I wonder what an EA18G can do to a swarm of drones?

[@shadewolf0075]

Oh people underestimate how electronic warfare will screw up drone swarms

[@wraith0709]

I imagine it would be like this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4HEhoekoJ6eb7ssi=RhVIsFdqsWvmSv9Q

[@shadewolf0075]

@ would definitely feel like it

[@UnitedStatesofAmorica]

Don't know. Maybe AN/ALQ-249, NGJ-LB

[@RozanneMcintosh]

Qarden Token will go 100x after launch on Binance

[@metalman6708]

What expertise does Elon musk have in military equipment or doctrine?

[@gruntusmc8922]

@metalman6708; Probably the same expertise of the "convicted felon", Traitor and enemy of The Republic. They just love to get money anyway they can get it. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@KapiteinKrentebol]

The expertise to funnel billions of DOE tax dollars to his masculinity compensation project called SpaceSex.

[@artur8403]

what help is in experts who use ww2 era books about tanks which disabled by 1500$ drone

[@luckyo11]

He literally built a completely novel concept of communications network that created completely new capabilities for everything on the battlefield that everyone is now rushing to copy for one. It utterly transformed command and control part of military doctrine and we're still adapting to the consequences. Most people forget how him giving Ukraine Starlink early on has been credited by their low level officers with basically saving the utterly destroyed communications of Ukrainian military during critical period in 2022. Since then everyone and their grandmother have been scrambling to figure out how to get something comparable into orbit. Problem is that technology needed to enable very low orbit expendable and cheap satellites is reusable rockets. And SpaceX is the only one that has them so far.

[@snizami]

"He'S LiTeRaLlY a MiLiTaRy CoNtRaCtOr!" Seriously, you'll find that sort of justification right here in the replies. See the comment simplistically parroting spacex's exaggerated accomplishments. Extending their logic would make any number of wealthy capital owners military experts based on their products being used anywhere remotely associated with the military.

[@arbelico2]

Elon Musk forgets that war is a team game: combined arms warfare and now it is a multi-domain "mosaic" war. Do away with manned aircraft... and bayonets on rifles...

[@JERMAINEMount]

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[@BigDaddyLongdick-n4f]

Bad bot

[@RaguelYork]

Trump is expected to mention Qarden Token this week and the ICO is already almost sold out

[@JE-bd3wu]

Bot

[@NATHANIELTu]

Qarden Token has two of the largest Tesla shareholders already; most likely something is coming

[@JE-bd3wu]

Bot

[@RubyeAlderman]

With Elon and Trump now working with Quarden Token is going to absolutely blow up

[@BP26P]

“Even Star Wars had a pilot in the cockpit” (Heater Heatley).

[@jdotoz]

Of course it did, Star Wars was half "The Dam Busters."

[@MutatedPizzaBoi]

He is wrong about MANY things

[@mrDominius]

Regarding the drones, he is correct from the technical perspective, but wrong from the military one. Drones will eventually replace human pilots, but it will be a gradual shift. The military can't just throw away pilots and hope it will work out.

[@kefhomepage]

He’s wrong about a lot of things

[@Link9058]

Easier to narrow down what he’s right about. That list is much shorter

[@ModestaBlackman]

Trump is expected to mention Quarden Token this week and the ICO is already almost sold out

[@NisuUuno]

definition of a cult.. do everyhing like the "great" leader does. though the "great leader" in this case is a convicted felon, rapist, failed businessman and a massive douche.

[@Exodlus]

This is a scam please do not fall for this.

[@THE-X-Force]

It's sad we're even addressing this, as if every stupid fart he makes needs coverage, but I guess that's the world we live in now.

[@stumpe9662]

He's literally the richest person on the planet and is essentially the vice president. Yes we should focus even more on the stupid shit he says and expose him for the fraud he is

[@korana6308]

How is that "a fart"? F35 is sh. I though everyone knew that already.

[@THE-X-Force]

@@korana6308 It's the most exported airframe the U.S. has ever produced. So literally the majority of the world disagrees with you.

[@1Orderchaos]

​@@korana6308 What are you smoking to think that?

[@steppenwolf1872]

👏👏👏

[@morganpittkin6867]

An F-16 can carry a lot more than 2 tons. Its payload capacity is over 8 tons.

[@bozturk7706]

All I'm saying is KIZILELMA!!!

[@widodoakrom3938]

Yeah drone with capabilities similar like fifth generation fighter jet

[@omegaalpha2974]

Of course he thinks that way. He still thiks his self driving car are ok!!

[@leonnunhofer3453]

His cars who fully rely on cameras, and get problems with sun, rain, fog and dirt on the cam. No other sensors for self driving. It's crazy.

[@adrianpaz472]

98% of the miles I drive every day are under FSD. You have no idea what you are talking about.

[@KhanKeal]

@@adrianpaz472 and entire armies worth of people will agree its a fucked up system and has many, MANY problems. YOU have no idea what you are talking about, because you literally draw from nothing but your own tunnelvisioned life.

[@EDWARDMuse-w9d]

Quarden Token will make millionaires, after CEX listing it will blow up.

[@SteffanieEnnis]

With Elon and Trump now working with Qarden Token is going to absolutely blow up

[@opilo3339]

It’s cool how the video came out 2 minutes ago and people are commenting like they have already seen the whole video

[@Rio..o7..]

could've read the transcript

[@Tential1]

​@@Rio..o7..3x speed

[@opilo3339]

@@Tential1 to see it in 2 minutes you would need it in 7 times speed

[@johnsmith1953x]

True, but Binko is sooo predictable. @6:46 It always hilarious when he shows planes attacking the Chinese mainland. Its essentially saying to the attacking country, "Please nuke the eff out of us China and turn us to glowing glass."

[@RedLancerMoto]

​@@johnsmith1953x Thankfully the CCP isn't ran by a bunch of suicidal fools. Not everybody thinks like you.

[@BaverMustafa]

Qarden Token will make millionaires, after CEX listing it will blow up.

[@CARLOSGuffey]

Musk's Qarden Token announcement is coming soon. Easyest money if you get in on the ICO

[@red_orange2971]

Who would have thought that a car company CEO doesn't know what he is talking about when it comes to anything else, his ego is so big he thinks he is Tony Stark 😂

[@cloudstrife5209]

He also owned starlink and space x. When was the last time you built a space shuttle? 😏

[@lolasdm6959]

@@cloudstrife5209 If my dad have an emerald mine I will probably do better than him, you know just don't piss off the talents in your company, be a good money bag sometime pays.

[@znie-1380]

There is literally no one who knows more about manufacturing than Elon Musk tho, atleast according to Elon Musk.

[@shanerooney7288]

Isn't he a bit more than just a car company CEO ?

[@znie-1380]

@@shanerooney7288 Is he? It's the only company he actually managed to turn a profit with. And barely.

[@2sudonim]

There's no point in making a stealth drone. The whole point of a drone is that it's relatively inexpensive so you can run riskier opps and overwhelm enemies with numbers. If you look at all the proposed drones, they're all almost as expensive as a manned fighter. Because the point of those programs is to siphon off as much DoD procurement money as possible, not to field a useful weapons platform. Arguably, that was also the point of the F-35 program, and is why that program has such shortcomings. The optimal combat drone would be made mostly from plywood with nylon fasteners, powered by a 3D-printed pulse jet, and run on anhydrous ammonia made in-situ at the staging base from air and water with either nuclear or solar power.

[@willtaylor8005]

I think the guy who won't put FLIR on his self driving cars shouldn't talk about fighter craft designs

[@BBP081]

I would love to hear Elon explain what a conflict of interest is and why they are a problem

[@florianschneider3982]

What are you talking about?

[@BBP081]

@florianschneider3982 he wants to audit the government that regulates his industries while holding on to his positions at his companies

[@ydroneaud]

There ´s no conflict of interest in a dictatorship you fool

[@florianschneider3982]

@@BBP081 Yes, and his biggest opponents (including one he sued) trust him and have said that Elon is not a bit corrupt and will do what is best for everyone. When his direct competitors say he won't abuse his influence, it means your assumption is wrong.

[@Cartoonman154]

@@florianschneider3982 Even Trump called him 'Another Bullshit Artist' less than 2 years ago.

[@JesbaamSanchez]

He said the design of F35 is bad. Yet his design for Cybertruck and the other Tesla's have so many issues.

[@ucfj]

You didn't even mention the most massive difference - drone losses won't be mentioned on the news. Not having a pilot means you can do missions you just couldn''t do before because losing piloted jets is not just an logistics issue - it's a morale hit

[@solomonofakkad1927]

Drones that are as capable as a jet fighter, like the RQ-4, did made it to the news if it's shot down. And just to let everyone know that RQ-4 costs more than the F-22, which is already about twice as expensive as the F-35A.

[@bruh-ni1fy]

It's not the most massive difference. It's not nearly as large of a morale hit during a full scale conventional war. Russia and Ukraine loses pilots all the time and nobody makes a massive deal of it because it's a real war with hundreds of thousands lost on each side. It's only a huge morale hit because the US largely fights counterinsurgencies out of sight and out of mind with no more than a couple thousand losses over the course of decades. When fighting a force advanced enough to shoot down f35s, a lost pilot is will not be nearly as newsworthy as it would be in Iraq/AFG.

[@frostblasts]

Israel used their F35s well, like 0 losses well.

[@PhilOutsider]

He’s Billy Mitchell.

[@williamsekely1476]

The F35, despite it's developmental issues, is the bridge between current 5th generation fighters and what's next. It can serve as a smaller range stealth AWACS, which keeps our increasingly vulnerable Awacs big planes out of harms way.

[@KRawatXP2003]

I like how you professionally criticize him instead of throwing insults at him.

[@Gilder-von-Schattenkreuz]

When I hear People making such a Big Deal of Hypersonic Missiles I immediately know they have no Idea of the Topic. Because There is alot of Variables and Problems with the entire Topic. First Off. We need to think about the Roles to Fill. An F35 is not made to be Shot Down. Its made to Run Hundreds of Sorties without being Shot down. A Drone even if You can Build 4 of them instead of a Single F35. Will end up more Expensive when You lose a Single Drone each Sortie. Because after 4 Sorties You basicly lost an F35 Worth. When the F35 itself is still Flying. Secondly we also need to think about Issues like actual Combat Effectiveness. Because we are as of now far away from Drones having anywhere near the Capabilities of a Manned Fighter Jet. And if they Simply cannot Fulfill the Mission. Then regardless of using Drones. We will still need the F35. And Finally there is the Issue with Countermeasures. Because while Encrypted Communications and Datalinks might be Secure in the Sense of being Manipulated or Read by the Enemy. They are far less Secure in concerns to Jamming. Not to mention that requiring a Constant Connection also mean that Stealth is effectively Impossible due to the Signar Revealing their Presence. And once You know something is in a Rough Area it becomes alot Harder for that thing to Stay Hidden. Which means that for Drones to actually have Chance of being Remotely useful. They effective need to be Capable of Fully Autonomous Action. Meaning each of them needs a Fully Capable AI. That is not only Capable of Determining Mission Objectives by itself and Carry out a Mission while Adapting to Changes. It also has to be Capable of Dealing with the Enemy trying to Interfere with this. And with Current Tech were AI can be Locked out by something like a Captcha. This is just too easy to Counter. Because Something as Simple as Unexpected Camouflage Patterns are enough to throw AI off the Target.

[@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket]

Remember Elon Musk promised the world FULLY self driving cars by like 2-3 years ago, and we're still waiting. He's a lot like the democrats, head in the clouds, optimistic as it gets.

[@AntoniArthur101]

None of you have any idea how to negotiate ..... thats right, Lockheed Martin are dealing in Trillions not millions, children cant comprehend billions, My guess is you all fall into the adolescent bracket

[@tedntricia]

Well done, Binkov. Spoken like a true American patriot!

[@Nightagain]

Elon has become a child. He literally went from being my idol and hero to a total spoiled power hungry lunatic. Maybe he should ask himself why humans change this way ?

[@Andrew12217]

I don't think he was any better before, it was more likely that he had a better PR team that kept his interactions controlled enough so he could sound smart... Until he discovered tweeter, sorry X!!!!!!! and no one could filter his bullshit before he spewed it to the world at large.

[@jarink1]

It's pretty coincidental how a lot of people's opinions of him, especially in the media, changed when he stopped supporting Democrats.

[@Theprimaryfocus]

Idolatry is a sin. Stop worshipping man and worship God instead and you'll stop having this problem.

[@stipebalenovic6497]

He is saying stuff to make people talk about him so he can sell stuff. He saves so much on marketing budgets by posting random stuff. Really not hard to connect these things.

[@LizardSpork]

"He's a tool, a cake eater, not to cast aspiration on the guy but he's going to get us all killed"

[@KC_G4S]

The funniest thing about Elon using that phrase, “jack of all trades, master of none”, is that arguably the F-35 is the master of everything. It’s a flying supercomputer with capabilities practically indistinguishable from magic compared to its predecessors and competitors, and is only outclassed in performance and maneuvering by the F-22. Combatant commanders will curse him to the grave if he successfully cuts purchase numbers of F-35s (which would also drive up the price).

[@jdotoz]

The other funny thing is that the original phrase notes that a jack of all trades is usually better than a master of one.

[@luckyo11]

Wrong premise that is only there because it's a manned platform: "It needs to do everything, just like a manned platform. It needs to carry weapons, have sensors to target those weapons, have electronic countermeasures, have satellite communication package...". Reality: Current USAF and PLAAF are all talking about distributed model enabled by unmanned drones. Swarm where a few drones carry sensors and nothing else (other than basic flight control etc necessities). A few carry payload and nothing else. A few carry electronic countermeasures and nothing else. One or two units carry satcom and do the command and control , coordinating the swarm to the orders being issued from command far away. The point isn't that "you need an equivalent drone". The point is that "you can now have a swarm with much better capabilities completely unavailable to manned platforms through extreme specialization to a single task on a single platform". This is why he's just as correct as he was when he noted that reusable rockets completely change the calculus in launching things to orbit, allowing for cheap disposable satellites to be functional. This is drone technology allowing for cheap and disposable platforms doing only one thing and networking with many other platforms that do other single things very well, to form a large coherent whole that will utterly outclass any manned platform on every level imaginable. Except getting pilots laid. P.S. This is also the "end of stealth", because stealth is best countered by combining data from multiple sensors looking at the same target from multiple directions. You can't do all aspect stealth. There will be some aspects in which aircraft will be much more visible than others, and once you combine data from multiple radars, even in the "best case" band for stealth aircraft, you will stand out against the background very well. The problem is networking all this, and before idea of many cheap unmanned platforms, this was difficult for cost reasons. F-35 already does this for example, but there's only a few of them and when they have to fly in a reasonable formation, value of this is reduced. Put similar logic on cheap drones with a lot more cheaper radars, and target is utterly screwed.

[@Tanktaco]

Reading this feels like you didn't even watch the video tbh. A fighter whose subsystems you've chopped up into a thousand pieces into separate airframes isn't some brilliant cost cutting play or a dramatic expansion on capability, it's introducing aerodynamic drag to the now massively increased surface area for equivalent capabilities of a fighter.

[@luckyo11]

@@Tanktaco I don't think you want to have an argument about relative aerodynamic drag when your example of it being great is Fat Amy.

[@nathanryweck3137]

@@luckyo11 great, now show that your hypothesis works the way you think it does. How do you extend the range of smaller drones which obviously do have more drag simply by having more surface area for the amount of fuel and payload they can carry? How do you even get your swarm into the fight? Do you have a bigger mothership drone carry them? How much would that add to the cost?

[@luckyo11]

​@@nathanryweck3137 Just so we are clear: you seem to suggest that main limitation on wartime aerial combat against peer and near peer opponents is going to be like Afghanistan - fuel?

[@donchaput8278]

It's the Hi-Lo mix principle. Having just a bunch of junk or a few high end things doesn't work. You need both

[@stumpe9662]

Because he's actively working against American Interests

[@florianschneider3982]

An example of this please.

[@stumpe9662]

@florianschneider3982 actively spreads known lies to discredit the government, and then gets immediately community noted

[@julianwroblewski9795]

@@florianschneider3982 Cut off Ukraine acces to starlink while they were performing actions on Crimea, that moron sabotaged US ally operation for his own ego

[@KursarTV]

@@florianschneider3982 Supporting hostile states such as Russia

[@florianschneider3982]

@@KursarTV He doesn't Support russia

[@LazerWolf21]

My local base currently has 2 squadrons of F-35’s and we’re building out the infrastructure to 6 squadrons eventually. Musk doing away with the F-35 would be a massive hit to the local economy, so odds are congress would never let that pass.

[@Seagull780]

I think it's important to also point out that human pilots can also make complicated decisions making use of unforeseen circumstances like geopolitical considerations or conditions in a target area (like a bunch of civilians showing up). While modern technology allows you to anticipate and plan for a lot of that, you cannot make it fully autonomous. And you cannot rely on remote control because that can be jammed.

[@ZolaClary]

Trump and Qarden Token partnership confirmed on twitter!! ICO almost sold out at $54m

[@trancamortal]

¡Gracias!

[@Mgrow]

Is he gooing to call his experimental fighters X-something ? Because that would be really original.

[@willkern6]

He probably wants to call them X-Wings, but won't since Disney would get upset.

[@MasamuneX]

also to be fair the raptor 3 engine compared to the raptor 2 is a big jump i could see spacex doing something like that for unmanned fighters just make the whole thing one solid shape with like 3 variants that focus on specific tasks like strike/interceptor defense/air to air combat and lastly air to ground/bomber splitting the tasks up into different platforms and then using the same manufacturing ability to make all three with shared materials makes wayyy more sense personally than just the f-35

[@rocksnot952]

Removing pilot support gear will save a lot of weight that could be used for fuel, as well as lowering the cost. Modern fighters are basically carriers of advanced autonomous weapons anyway. Maybe the best way now is to have a pilot on the ground. The UCAV can handle all the boring autonomous stuff, the pilot can direct combat. Win-win.

[@Statueshop297]

The datalinks are the weak spot. With a pilot with the drones it allows direct datalinks. Satellite datalinks are going to be vulnerable due to weak signal etc. I think there is a place for all unmanned and manned. Imagine going all in on unmanned only for them all to stop working at the same time.

[@ohmyrage]

It’s a cost to value ratio. He’s not saying it’s a terrible jet. He’s saying for that cost you can spread your risk to a swarm of smaller items to achieve similar effect. 100million in a single jet is insane. Sabotage, accidents, maintenance issues and combat losses can drastically reduce combat effectiveness per dollar

[@garyleowilkins]

I like Elon, but, In this case it’s obvious that he is trying to position himself to be the supplier of unmanned spacecraft and unmanned aircraft as a defense contractor. It’s so obvious a 10 year old could predict it

[@f.b.l.9813]

I used to like Elon but the more I hear him talk, the less I like him.

[@mrDominius]

​@@f.b.l.9813 same, it feels like Elon downgraded since the acquisition of Twitter

[@jeremypintsize7606]

@@mrDominius Perhaps it's because the speed of sound is much lower than the speed of Light Elon could seems brillant until he open his mouth. And for engineering , he had just a bachelor of arts in physics and is Bachelor of Science is in economics . Wharton School is business school not a faculty of sciences... and like many Ivy league universities you pay the diploma... And 1990 to 1997 to achieve a bachelor it's 6 full years for a 3 years program... My one-year master's degree in network and telecoms is from Pierre and Marie Curie University , a french a public research university in Paris ranked according to Academic Ranking of World Universities (ARWU) aka Shanghai Ranking, 32nd in field of engineering, technology and computer science. I've also an associate degree in biochemistry...and i'm not an expert in this field .

[@mrDominius]

@@jeremypintsize7606 yes, maybe. But still he did create some impressive stuff. Not on his own, but that doesn't really matter. Now rockets are landing themselves. It wasn't a thing before. I admire his vision, but not his behavior.

[@jeremypintsize7606]

@@mrDominius The space shuttle and the Buran had landed themselves in the 80's. They are mostly reusable , booster included . And Eon Musk rocket hadn't reached the Geostationary orbit. The success of tesla had fueled accumulator powered electric cars ... and slowed research on fuel cells. Fuels cells use the most common element hydrogen as combustible... And fire hazard is less important than a accumulator powered vehicle flammable gaz is already an issue with gazoline and hydrogen unlike gazoline is at atmospheric pressure lighter than air , accumulator don't need a flame to be ignited temperature suffice ...

[@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773]

Stopping the F-35 should have happen a decade ago when it went over budget. At this point...youre too deep to not fully complete them. 1 trillion USD spent on a turkey that could have been spent on updating the Raptor and purchasing the Stealth Eagle.

[@parvizdeamer]

And have no carrier borne capacity? And a stealth eagle would have been overkill for most ground attack missions (which is why we have the F16, and now F35).

[@MijnAfspeellijst1234]

A yes, tesla can barely make self driving cars work, but sure lets put ai in charge of a combat airplane. seems about right. ( note this commend will age very poorly with time ;)

[@AntoniArthur101]

None of you have any idea how to negotiate ..... thats right, Lockheed Martin are dealing in Trillions not millions, children cant comprehend billions, My guess is you all fall into the adolescent bracket

[@azophi]

Maybe we should slow or stop production of the F-35, but not fighter jets in general… definitely agree with all of the points here.

[@phrozen17]

What the hell would he know about jets?

[@herbertkeithmiller]

Hey Chris to me that maybe a good drone counter move would be the place a radar above an area to protect it. How would you hold the radar aloft? A balloon. That's right going back to something from world war II to counter the latest threat. If we could get a radar on a balloon and somehow power it It could look down on the immediate areas and spot approaching low-level drones that would otherwise hide and the ground clutter. In order to power this radar presumably an electrical cable could be attached to the line tethering the balloon to the ground. Just an idea

[@xzenderx]

Specialists always out perform jack of all trades. Sincerely. A Former Jack.

[@elijah_9392]

I think the full saying is quite nice: "The Jack of all trades but master of none, is better still than the master one."

[@znie-1380]

It's a nice saying and all, and certainly hold some truth. But I do like my jet being able to both fly and shoot. And not just mastering one of the two. Having increased complexity can also amplify other features, aka making something more than the sum of it's parts. This is all to say, it seems the F-35 has been massively mismanaged, but has created a stealth fighter that simply has no equal.

[@alphakevin687]

And Space Karen is a BS spewing specialist. Actually the best in her trade.

[@xzenderx]

@@elijah_9392 In practice it doesn't work like that. In reality, something can be created with the jack of all trades mantra, but while specualizing in one area. In terms of jets we could say speed (weaponry accuracy allows for it) But in normal circumstances the jet could still dogfight. You know like how a car has a Sports mode. You can also feel this significantly in a game, where if you specialize you get much more powerful much quicker and progress much faster. Your saying assumes that the stats of other elements are so low that the specialist will be trash at all but one. When they might be average or even better than average in some areas. I don't want a large scale bomb involved in a dogfight for instance lol And what can you do against a jet with insane speed and an accurate targeting system. I think this was the f22 for a while.

[@xzenderx]

@@znie-1380 I dont know why people think a specialist in real life cannot do anything else. Even in games they operate just fine.

[@peterboy209]

The most important argument you mentioned: time. The next conflict is already on the horizon. That's why we need volume and mature structures.

[@JonDoe-ef4tz]

When you hear Elon Musk Speak you are like "Wow this guy is really smart". Then a few minutes later you are like "Wow this guy is insane".

[@davidradtke160]

Yeah whenever he starts talking about stuff you know a lot about it’s pretty clear his knowledge is pond deep.

[@JonDoe-ef4tz]

@@davidradtke160 His charisma is off the charts i'll give him that.

[@seoKillerElite]

No, I just reasonably fill in the blanks because he's not our teacher or our father, he's just a guy speaking extemporaneously. If I can do it, you can do it. Because you're a smart guy. Much smarter than Musk or I.

[@EvaExplores-x2x]

Takes a insane guy to be most successful businessman on the planet

[@liquidsnakex]

@@JonDoe-ef4tz I like Musk but no it’s not, he’s only situationally charismatic to you because you’re a fellow nerd who’s probably already into the science/engineering topics he talks about. He’s not charismatic to the general public at all, which is why it’s so easy for the media to brai nw ash normies to ha te him. Normies always side with whoever appears to be more popular in any given moment regardless of merit or actual popularity.

[@snowrabbit9558]

Fix the window whispers on my Tesla first please? I miss my Bosch rain sensor……

[@ericchristopher1687]

Ryan McBeth covered exactly this topic in depth two weeks ago. Did you happen to watch his video?

[@puppyflight8303]

while i am not ready to dump manned aircraft, we should explore how far can we go using drones and fully research this. drones should be another tool in the box

[@THE-X-Force]

He's the P.T. Barnum of the modern era.

[@markstyles1246]

P. T. Barnum was entertaining...

[@THE-X-Force]

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[@AdmiralBlackstar]

@@markstyles1246 Musk is entertaining...perhaps not on purpose though.

[@maxwaller8344]

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[@tyman3331]

As everything else Musk has no idea what he’s talking about

[@MauiWowie51]

im sure you do though.

[@donniesmitherman9017]

The rail gun hasn’t taken off yet either but that hasn’t stopped engineers from working on it and waiting for technology to catch up

[@johnupjohn]

Oh my, what's in the comments section! Well, given his business and technology track record, Musk keeps much more expertise than the crowd of the sofa experts trying to disparage him in the comment section.

[@mattcat83]

The slow speed at which defense production ramps up is part of the problem of the inefficiency of the current military industrial complex. This was what Musk should be focused on, the inefficiency of the production.

[@leonnunhofer3453]

Because he is overrated and believes in his own hype. Because he is good with money and selling stuff, but no scientist or expert for anything. He just says stuff, and his fans celebrate it. Also imo it's not either, or. You can have both, drones and jets, and imo should have both. Combined arms. Anyway, Musk loves to talk about things, he doesn't understand, and believes his own hype, and the result are ridiculous statements like that 🤷‍♂️

[@Stepbystep74]

Feel like fighter droneswork just fine in theory but when you have one engaging an aircraft which is trying like hell to jam it, while a 3rd party plane is shadowing just the other side of a national border. You need to know it can do its job without gps, without instruction and with half its systems in some form of error state

[@xt7519]

Musk seems to be a big fan of Russia, so it's not surprising that his talking points come from RT, especially concerning the F-35. The Russians would be thrilled if the US stopped F-35 production...it's something they have been trying to do for years now, and Musk isn't exactly the first western shill for this. Basically, the TLDR for your video is Musk is wrong, doesn't really understand the technology but thinks he's an expert, and, sadly, many people take what he says on faith.

[@JoeOvercoat]

Yes. It would be funny if it weren’t for Musk’s personal connection with Putin.

[@korana6308]

LOL. It's literally the EXACT OPPOSITE. That's why it's funny. It hurts the US building more of those. More than what it already has. It would strengthen the US if the def. budget money were spent on something else. That's what's funny about it. The US shills are destroying themselves. As Russia doesn't have to do anything with it. Russia just needs to stay back lol. You guys are literally destroying the US from within with those wrongful statements. Because area completely clueless LOL. Painting a picture the exact opposite of the reality, and doing so aggressively destroys the US (hence why the founding fathers liberalism, which is now gone, was always the saviour of the US in the past lol... Not anymore because it became a communist country.)

[@quattordicimontenapoleone3113]

Author of the Cybercrap says what?

[@jamielondon6436]

Why is Elon Musk wrong? Because he's Elon Musk. That clown can't stop constantly saying 'stuff', and once in a while some of it is actually correct, making his fanclub go crazy.

[@cameronspence4977]

2:38 and a single fighter jet has more explosive power in its munitions and capabilities than every single drone in this whole video can carry.

[@DisFantasy]

Taking national security advice from a South African seems unwise.

[@ferky123]

He has, "DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY." 😅

[@gruntusmc8922]

@@DisFantasy; Sir, it doesn't seems unwise, it's totally insane just like every single piece of concept from the brainless "convicted felon".🤔🤔🤔

[@Robotrik1]

Complex drones have the same issues as complex planes or missiles . They are slow to produce . As for drones being easy to shoot down -- currently there are some unidentified drone swarms on the US east coast ... , and apparently it's illegal to shoot them down, as legally they're under the same classification as small planes like the Cesna.

[@Markus117d]

Why? Because he's Elon Musk, lol.. The man isn't a genius, just employs smart people..

[@prokremelskidezolati1426]

bingo! 😂

[@leonnunhofer3453]

And his fanboys don't get it, and think, he does everything by his own. Meanwhile he is addicted to Twitter and plays video games all the time. He calls it work, because he does that at other people's workplace. That's why he claims, he works 80 - 100 hours a week. It's gaming and tweeting, and maybe 20% real work 🤷‍♂️

[@KRGruner]

Complete bullshit. Every company everywhere employs smart people. Yet Musk is the one who succeeds. That's because he is a genius. But even geniuses can be wrong about things they actually have not studies closely, as is the case here. He just does not know enough about air warfare.

[@traktor321]

@@leonnunhofer3453 i believe he worked his ass off before, but now he probably gives out tasks and his ideas to people and say : make it happen. occasionally checking what guys have done. playing diablo whole day, tweeting and boring trump 🤣

[@BusesAreFatCars]

An IQ of 136 is required to be officially classed as a genius. An IQ of 140 is required for Mensa membership. The fact that you don't like him doesn't change the fact that he exceeds both of these metrics. So yes, he is a genius. You are wrong.

[@jamond1]

What weapons are economically effective in countering thousands of FPV drones?

[@PeterMuskrat6968]

Electronic Warfare, Then Gun Based systems and then Laser Based systems. Plus, "thousands of FPV drones" can't fly at the altitude an aircraft can, or with as large a payload and at the ranges that actual aircraft can.

[@AdamSchadow]

The problem in the current irl meta is that something like shahed kamikaze drone is so cheap you can build thousands if not tens of thousands of them for the price of one jet. This means in a war a country could simply fire an insane swarm of drones that would wipe out all military equipment if not all humans in the target country long before any jets can take off and mount a counter attack which would still not do even a fraction of the damage.

[@aquilesca5tr0]

The thing is that drones like that can be countered using old AAA, a shahed is still more expensive than a bullet

[@johnschwartz1641]

​@aquilesca5tr0 and shaheds can apparently be duped with GPS jamming. Cheap drones are cheap because expensive EW countermeasures are skipped.

[@steelytemplar]

@@aquilesca5tr0 Exactly.

[@AdamSchadow]

@@aquilesca5tr0 you should look up how many aa's countries have even if each could shoot down a hundred thats nowhere enough

[@Peizxcv]

The people doubting Musk and Chinese planners are the same people that decided hydrogen economy / carbon trade / Northvolt are good ideas

[@TheJoshuaJames]

He isn't wrong, adding a pilot has very little benefit, and quite a lot of drawbacks, like cost, moral implications of death, not able to preform one way missions or take nearly as great of risks, or fly nearly as fast or withstand near as much G-force. It's not like drones don't have pilots, they just aren't sitting in the plane

[@sleepnaught]

That’s great, but unmanned aerial systems are still a long way out and not proven. There’s not a single system even remotely close to maturity. Nuking the F-35 in favor of a system we have no idea when it will be ready is the height of stupidity

[@LunaticTheCat]

Quit speaking on topics you clearly don't understand.