Why is everyone playing old games?

[@TheCaffeineKid]

I used to go into a store to find a game, but now I go into a game to find a store.

[@criticalpixels]

Great analogy!

[@Not_PretendingTV]

This needs to be on a shirt

[@Flint7014]

this goes so hard

[@pipebomber04]

Excelente!

[@Asfgxff]

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[@alexanderradcliffe5578]

It's simple. Older games were made to be fun. New games are made to make money

[@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24]

All games are made to make money💀

[@4444jinpingboss]

you're not serious💀

[@eveningclicks7767]

Agreed, but companies are more interested in pushing something out faster rather than paying attention to quality or considering developer's passion.

[@rebel4466]

@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24 There's a difference between releasing a good product for price x and asking for price x to get a usually buggy game that feels unfinished, but you can get the complete experience if you get the season pass for more money. Look at gta 5 for example. Huge success, no DLC, still played today. If you take CoD as the "opponent": season pass, no single player, new one every year. Sure both want to make money, but one of the examples respects its customers.

[@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24]

@@rebel4466 so games weren’t buggy in the old days? Y’all need to stop that nostalgia bias. And GTA did have dlc and it’s live service, cod has single player. Honestly bro you can do better than that

[@BIDENKART]

modding community can turn what had been a 60 dollar game back in 2008 into what could arguably be a 300 dollar game with the sheer amount of extra modded content.

[@hoi-polloi1863]

Looking at YOU, Neverwinter Nights!

[@The_whales]

Most games made by valve:

[@pattonramming1988]

Mount and Blade has better AAA franchise games that the studios that are officially in charge

[@ukraineball953]

Mario Kart Wii.

[@BIDENKART]

@@ukraineball953 bro knew what game i was talking about

[@subho9000]

Games back then used to be made for gamers, now its made for maximising shareholder value and making investors happy.

[@drttgb4955]

1. CEO's 2. Share holders. 3. Minorities. . . . . 99999/10000. Workers/Customers

[@jessa7323]

Question. What is maximising? I am pretty sure I get it from context but could the words maxing or maximizing not be used or does the word you used mean something different from the 2 I just mentioned?

[@menninkainen8830]

And made BY gamers.

[@joeyxl3456]

eewwwwww so true

[@niemand7811]

@subho9001 Wrong. First of all things back then there were no gamers. That term did not exist at all. Developers had no idea what the audience was like that would play their games. Today developers can read your rage bait and managers can go all "eff that" as much as they like. Back then you had little to no power over anything. You were less entitled. Nobody cared about your opinions. There was no feedback loop to which anyone could have responded. People took the games and made the best out of it. You think Mega Man and Ninja Gaiden were as big as they are now? No. Each franchise eventually started with one or two games and an unknown future coming up ahead. There were always shareholders or else Atari would not have crashed as they did.

[@antiratrace]

I play games to relax and have fun, not to have a second, unpaid part time job.

[@raid1010]

What's wrong is that u have to PAY to get that 'job'

[@GeorgeD1]

This.

[@k.chriscaldwell4141]

❗️👍

[@yokiryuchan7655]

That's pretty much multiplayer gaming in a nutshell.

[@niemand7811]

@antiratrace Sounds like y you problem. When did people start to make gaming a job? Think about that. When did gaming become such a thing that now you can sit on your computer, upload it on youtube and make money? Sometimes even so that you can live off of that alone? It is a you problem. You as in today's gaming society. The big corporations only respond to trends you want in your life. Yes you as a gaming society. As a whole community that can not make one clear decision because now every kid has a smartphone or a cheap computer. Everyone wants to play video games now. You are the problem.

[@sifugraham2918]

Because we are not consumers we are human beings..

[@silverhawkscape2677]

We are Customers.

[@TheStephaneAdam]

@@silverhawkscape2677 That's an amazingly empty take.

[@bluegold1026]

We are the providers of endless streams of $$$$$

[@sylinashi8761]

Wrong. Companies only treat the masses this way because they roll over and take it. They don't vote with their wallet.

[@slaydog5102]

Lies.

[@RonanAquilius]

Games from the 90s to the mid-00s have aged incredibly well and are still more fun than today's games

[@LimeGuy101]

late 2000's* 2004-2009 was peak

[@Jinx_Skeel]

@@LimeGuy101 no

[@BxPanda7]

@@Jinx_Skeel yes, 90% of the old games we play are from that era, it was truly peak gaming.

[@Jinx_Skeel]

@@BxPanda7 who's "we" ? 90s >>>> 00s any day of the week

[@matthewwilliams3827]

Best era games will ever be.

[@zachpowell8653]

Modern games are not made to be fun. They are produced and developed from the group up to squeeze as much money as possible from the gamer.

[@ceeece]

Yep! Gameplay is structured around making money than enjoyment for the consumer.

[@Saroku1000]

its more because popular games sucessor still arent released. Skyrim came out 13 years ago, the sucessor still takes a while to come out. GTA 5s sucessor also isnt avaiable right now.

[@lindenstromberg6859]

I’d say Fortnite fits that definition perfectly, but it’s the number 1 most played game. So, I don’t think that’s the answer.

[@luckyrockmore2796]

And to monopolize their time

[@thighhighenthusiastic1268]

EA Sports.

[@blueshattrick]

NEVER been a better time to be a patient gamer... someone still on the last generation (or even earlier), buying only the absolute best/time-tested games, all at rock bottom prices

[@DhinCardoso]

Nailed it

[@DhinCardoso]

Precise

[@palaceofwisdom9448]

I dread the day when the industry figures this out and stops dropping the price on older games. I love paying $15 for AAA titles that are finally a finished product rather than paying $70 to be a beta tester.

[@MookeMookeMooke]

If they stopped making games for a decade I have enough on my wishlist/backlog and replaying 30+ years of old favourites that I'd be absolutely fine. Especially if you include emulators which IMO are perfect up to the PS2/Gamecube era.

[@franglais-riders]

So true. I stopped gaming around 2000 as life got on the way: commute, career etc… I sold my PlayStation and games. Then with lockdowns I restarted with all Spiderweb indie games. I specially loved the Avernum series. It reignited my love for gaming. So I got an Xbox and I started slowly working my way through old games. Most would cost 5 to 12 pounds max on eBay and various second hand online shops: The Witcher 3, Skyrim, Oblivion, Mass effect, assassin creed, DA:O, RDR2…. I am slowly building a small collection. Also I like to buy the physical DvD game. On a subscription, you rent the game. If you stop the sub you lose the games. I prefer to own outright so even without wifi or subscription I can still play.

[@somesassybrat305]

Game companies now: you should like what we make Game companies in the past: we should make what you like

[@b1tchb4by3]

Piracy be looking cute rn 😍

[@Soxfandan]

Much like Disney. Demands you approve of them selling creepy sexuality to kids and if you don’t like it you’re racist… or something.

[@Kane0123]

My nostalgia doesn’t require an internet connection… aside from Vanilla WoW 😂

[@itsmenatika]

Also in newest game you've got a lot of DRM or another shit which complicates a lot, even if you're not pirating. I can't even play on epic games launcher without internet, fuck them

[@nifftbatuff676]

When happened? 30 years ago? 😂😂😂

[@JephBoyardee]

My Internet is shit sometimes. Single player games have NO reason to be always online

[@Stettafire]

100% this. Whoever thinks "always online" is ok has never lived outside of a big city in their lives

[@thfrussia6717]

@@Stettafire Not only that. But it's similar with a cashless society. If you have money that is only digital and kept on some server this is NOT your money anymore.

[@Aquayunyun]

Fr I'm using like 700kbs rn☠️

[@niemand7811]

I play exclusively single player games and not one needs me to be online all the time. The heck are you talking about?

[@Kniffel101]

"People played more old games in 2023" The ESA: "Oh shit, we gotta cut their access to them!"

[@xavier5297]

R.I.P Vimms

[@desertmammoth3159]

@@xavier5297 Vimms aint dead, i just downloaded Future Cop: LAPD from them. Other sites have already sprung up to offer what vimms cant. We're all good fam.

[@scrittle]

Where one falls, five more sprout in their place.

[@minmogrovingstrongandhealthy]

Which was already a thing. Most old games on GOG and Steam are unplayable, even with patches it's all outdated and dont work. Its been like this since the early days of Windows 7 the games were never ported over at all or never fixed properly for new OS or new systems.

[@Monsterman10]

Vimns is my favorite site. Sad to see some of it's games taken down for little to no reason.

[@ToruKurosawa]

A lot of older games were actually finished and not rushed. Plus the games now are filled with microtransactions and have no good new ideas.

[@amarg7657]

YUP dlcs make no sense I wanta. Finished game

[@mainstreetsaint36]

@@amarg7657 Not always. Saint's Row 2 had amazing DLC that had incredible story and gameplay. The main game was still complete on disc though.

[@amarg7657]

@@mainstreetsaint36 saints row 2 dlc was great but you and other saints row fans deserved a complete game with the dlc already in it you can’t say it was a complete game and tho simultaneously say “the dlc was great” if there’s dlc then it’s not a complete game also paying for dlc is ridiculous

[@mainstreetsaint36]

@@amarg7657 What made the DLC of SR2 a bit different was technically it wasn't needed to understand the game. Unlike most DLC which carries huge chunks of the main story. Either way, I wish they would give us another Saint's Row game like 2 again.

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

Older games were rushed, let's not pretend they don't

[@stevecarter8810]

I'm noticing it across all media: there are fewer places you can actually relax, because advertising and nudge psychology have made their way in everywhere. So games are stressful because of having to resist micro transactions or avoid or tolerate ads, etc. There's no escape in our escapism anymore.

[@Grimmyke7]

SO MUCH THIS

[@pw6002]

"Why is everyone playing old games ? " The reasons stated in the video are of course perfectly valid, but I would like to add these: 1. There are a shit-ton of good games among them, some being true classics 2. A lot of gamers have a huge backlog of older games in their Steam/Epic/GoG libraires they never played before and re-discover 3. Older games are cheaper to purchase, sometimes even waaaayyy cheaper or free 4. They were either already bugfree from their release date on, or have had the time to be fully patched by now 5. They run ultra-smoothly on any current mid-spec hardware, and some even on low-spec configs 6. A lot of newer games push the hardware to its limits, and less and less people have the money to blindly follow the hardware "improvement" craze

[@Drew458]

I'm convinced modern games are designed to be inefficient and space-hogs, to encourage people to buy new consoles/build new PCs and get more storage drives. I'm assuming they're invested in the companies that make those products, or have partnered to make it a reality. It just doesn't make sense the way games have ballooned in size/spec requirements when the actual change is minimal at best.

[@Diogo85]

"1. There are a shit-ton of good games among them, some being true classics" There are many good modern games, still way more than bad. "2. A lot of gamers have a huge backlog of older games in their Steam/Epic/GoG libraires they never played before and re-discover" Okay. "3. Older games are cheaper to purchase, sometimes even waaaayyy cheaper or free" That was the case with a lot of things back then. "4. They were either already bugfree from their release date on, or have had the time to be fully patched by now" I'm sorry to burst your bubble but there were no bugfree or glitch-free games back then, either. Every game had glitches just like they do now, "5. They run ultra-smoothly on any current mid-spec hardware, and some even on low-spec configs" Yeah, because they're old. "6. A lot of newer games push the hardware to its limits, and less and less people have the money to blindly follow the hardware "improvement" craze" A lot but not most.

[@pro_terrarian]

I AINT PAYIN 70 DOLLARS FOR A MOVIE

[@toblerone1729]

Especially if it's not a complete game

[@danita122]

just pirate it?

[@zerosam5541]

​@@danita122 good idea to priate 100 gb or more cinamtic movie game

[@scrittle]

My major complaint for 'The Last of Us' in a nutshell. It's a movie with gameplay as an afterthought, it was already using the outdated arena-shooter genre from the 360.

[@danita122]

@@zerosam5541 yeeaah what a problem

[@riczz4641]

In general there has been a steep decline in both games and cinema. Corporations putting their dirty hands in the creation of art absolutely ruins it.

[@danielserrano929]

I only watch critically acclaimed shows and movies I don’t have time for that dead brain stuff.

[@SharksSJ408]

You can actually pinpoint the moment cinema started to decline to the moment when diversity standards in Hollywood began being enforced.

[@everegenx]

@@SharksSJ408games too

[@shadowninja6689]

I think part of what destroyed modern games was also the insistence of not adjusting the price of games for inflation for 3+ decades and just stuffing microtransactions into games, which effected the gameplay in a very negative way. It led to marketers designing games to maximize profits instead of maximizing fun.

[@Lewtable]

@@SharksSJ408 Cinema started to decline heavily primarily because of streaming services and the pandemic accelerating that trend even further. Sure there were movies that were controversial for having what felt like unnecessary inclusivity, violent rhetoric on gender equality or replacing well known characters with new ones for diversity but lets not act like it is some sort of killer. The wide majority don't really care about that stuff and if they do, they will just not watch those movies. Cinema doesn't really control that, they effectively just rent movies to be seen from the companies that produce them. In the case of video games, the most annoying and middle-finger inducing thing for me is companies re-introducing retro games that they think they are still worth like 10-15 bucks just to be accessible on steam, without doing any updates to the game itself. Like, no. I'm sorry, but it is incredibly greedy to re-release a game from 2 decades ago that is the exact same as it was back then and still putting a price tag like that on it. Especially when the old game was physical goods that had to be manufactured and this is digital with zero additional cost per copy.

[@joekennedy4166]

Simple answer. About 10 years ago developers simultaneously got greedy and lazy. They saw that mobile games were profitable and now they are trying to make every game a whale trap with cosmetics and battle passes instead of focusing on FUN.

[@ryanfitzgerald9833]

I have a feeling that is not something developers did. As much as it is, something investor s and CEOs insisted upon

[@Sorain1]

@@ryanfitzgerald9833 That doesn't change that they did it, just changes who made the decision. (And to be fair to your sentiment that I share, who is to blame.)

[@djmixin1]

I noticed this too picked up a few new games bcuz they look good and interesting. They are repetitive and hard but nice looking game. It gets old.

[@Etymon-jt3zw]

DEI hired destroy the gaming industry.

[@ryanfitzgerald9833]

@@Etymon-jt3zw That's an interesting thing to say. Considering it was saved after white people basically destroyed it in the early '80s by Japanese people in the late '80s and early '90s. Or did you forget how Sega and Nintendo got bigger than Atari?

[@Jonestimmyj1]

Nice to know it's not just me going back to previous consoles and handhelds more than ever.

[@daeocdomren9471]

Always have. Only recent game I've purchased and enjoyed was Valheim a year ago. Dark Forces remaster was well done, but I always end up trotting out the retro gear every 5 years or so.

[@Jonestimmyj1]

@daeocdomren9471 With all these stupid stuff these companies are doing I almost want us to have this video game crash in marketing if only to affect these companies.

[@JoeOvercoat]

Heck, i just reconnected my Wii…to the *TV*.

[@air1das]

For older games: 1. They're cheaper 2. They're patched. 3. No sweet baby incs

[@johnchristian5027]

Also they are much better then the newest triple A money grabbing attempt that is modern games

[@w0t_m818]

Thinking the problem is black and gay people in games over the games being over-monetised and unfinished is certainly a take 🙄

[@Darmani2MB]

@@w0t_m818 nah bro, he's only listing the pros of older games. That being said, having no forced diversity and/or pointless censoring of "offensive content" is definitely a good thing

[@w0t_m818]

@@Darmani2MB there is literally no problem with diversity in games, only terminally online nerd man children are mad about that.

[@w0t_m818]

@@Darmani2MB diversity is a good thing 🗿 I will admit games are becoming more generic though, but that's because of capitalism anyway, as if you want to maximise your potential profit you want to create products with as broad an appeal possible, meaning you don't want to exclude anyone with insensitive material and want to represent as many groups as possible, that's just business.

[@peckneck2439]

Overpriced, boring, lack of creativity, forced politics, predatory microtransactions and rng mechanics, poor optimization, forced diversity, game devs being hostile to the customers... just to name a few.

[@billyyank1916]

Aside from “forced politics/diversity”, I strongly agree with you. I feel like the video games that are coming out or just over bloated garbage that cost way too much money and takes up way too much space on my computer. It’s way easier to play a game from 1998 and it is to play the soulless slop coming out this day and age.

[@MikeJAk49]

​@@billyyank1916I mean the force diversity/politics One of the most number one things ruining video games now.

[@mainstreetsaint36]

Any card based game, and RPG (Japanese or western) utilize RNG mechanics. That's what decides if an attack hits or misses (the same is true with physical pen and paper RPGs (the dice are the random number generator)). Or what card gets drawn during a players turn.

[@TheRealCatof]

​@@MikeJAk49 Only in the eyes of racist whites.

[@mark463]

I feel these are the main ones.

[@Efsaaneh]

I play older games because: 1) New games are expensive (especially when you live in Azerbaijan) 2) I am stuck with a 1050 ti laptop and must use it for 8 years (until 2027) 3) Old games offer better stories and experiences with the only downside being "bad" graphics

[@mainstreetsaint36]

The used game market right now here in the States is wild. Same places are selling games that are a decade or two old for 2 or 3 times the original shelf price.

[@Bambeakz]

Just wondering. Why 8 years? You are paying it off?

[@iwastherobloxianminecrafter]

Why 8 yrs?

[@hoviettrung1501]

How well can the 1050ti run the games you play? I used to have a 1650 notebook and remember feeling quite satisfy with its performance

[@bimmer8602]

8 years oddly specific

[@chlamygamine2190]

I'm about to play sleeping dogs for the first time on the PS3..... Sony will never know the console is offline

[@Bambeakz]

Enjoy. You will have fun

[@AidanMyne]

You're in for a treat.

[@karthik7282]

Great game!

[@Deadmare]

I need to add that obe to my list I never played it

[@CyanRooper]

"A man who never eats pork buns is never a whole man."

[@lonelychameleon3595]

Older games just feel more fun to play. Newer games may look nicer but the product as a whole just feels incomplete and feels more geared towards seasonal passes and even competitive play as opposed to just being able to enjoy playing it by yourself or with your friends in the same place. It feels like the gaming industry has just hit a wall.

[@tachyon8317]

Great graphics =/= GREAT game. Wish companies would realize that

[@MetalHeadbanger7]

No Microtransactions. No Politics. No Day One patches. No bullshit.

[@Timmy-mi2ef]

There were definitely politics and games hust didn't get finished

[@Mrhouse-k1x]

​@@Timmy-mi2efthe politics in them weren't radically progressive

[@squeallymaniac]

​@@Mrhouse-k1x not every old game is bigoted trash, a lot of old games are progressively progressive.

[@Diogo85]

Games had politics back then and they still do, don't lie. Please learn what politics means.

[@Diogo85]

@@Mrhouse-k1x That's not what politics means. Politics doesn't mean radically progressive, it means politics in general.

[@kosmikaonebladeshy]

There is also the reason that we dont have the high end hardware needed for current day aaa games.

[@know.1ne]

yeah and the prices of said new end hardwares isn't making things easy for us

[@derealized797]

Right, as though food and other necessities aren't expensive enough. Now we're expected to buy these, for games we won't even own, many of them we wouldn't want to anyway. How hyped are some games that end up being complete flops, and how often now? They destroyed the future for arkham games, while even having a shell eject from a revolver. These developers are completely disrespectful towards the audience, the properties they're working with, then they try to shame us when their games fail. The entire "entertainment" industry is a joke right now, it literally cares nothing at all for the customer. Let the next crash occur, i think its for the best. Most people now are more interested in classics and indie games, not just for the price difference, but the quality.

[@anunnacy]

That's what many studios overlook while focusing WAY to much on pushing graphics to the max investing hundreds of hours on that... Often times I find myself seeing a game I'm really interested in - for example on steam - and I'm one second away from hitting the Buy button and giving them my money, but then I look at the system requirements and be like "hmm.. nah I think my pc will burn" and I end up not buying it. Potential customer lost guys, whoops. Everyone's WAY to focused on graphics nowadays and we're at a point where we wouldn't even have to focus on that, bc nowadays it does look good anyway - so how about we get back to focusing on THE GAMES themselves instead of pushing boundaries, having more time to really putting love into it? Yeah. I think that's a good idea.

[@ChickenMcThiccken]

which is why cloud gaming is only going to get better and better. no need for high end expensive hardware when you can simply stream from the most expensive servers for very cheap.

[@superstar64]

​@@ChickenMcThiccken You will own nothing and be happy, that's all I see from cloud gaming.

[@mainstreetsaint36]

Overpriced, boring/lack of creativity, predatory microtransactions, poor optimization, game studios having anti-consumer practices. That's just to name several reasons.

[@lsp6032]

on top of ruining established character designs in favour of aberrant designs and aberrant flags that is not tolerable for many people

[@MrFriendlyCsgoContent]

Why are you stealing comments? This comment is top comment you just reworded it for likes. Sad guy

[@sandhug6331]

Stealing top comments over here

[@DoPe1906]

​@@MrFriendlyCsgoContenthe even commented under the Comment he stole, before stealing it 😂

[@MrFriendlyCsgoContent]

@@DoPe1906 haha i didn't notice that how obvious can he be. Who even wants likes that bad anyway? I've had comments with thousands of likes before and I couldn't care less lmao

[@Noperare]

Tango studios being shutting down after the Hi-fi rush success still baffles me. So even if you done everything right, you still may get the boot because of some top executive bullshit

[@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24]

They didn’t do everything right which is why they’re gone get over it

[@TurKlack]

For those that don't know anything about it what can you tell us?​@@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24

[@AMidgetWalrus]

@@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24 What did they do wrong though? Not litter their game with microtransactions? Get Sold to Microsoft, who saw a studio that wouldn't just pump out endless revenue stream slop instead of actual complete games.

[@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24]

@@AMidgetWalrus they didn’t make money. All their games flopped. You guys are so dense about hating modern gaming or Microtransactions you don’t use common sense. Not all games have Microtransactions just games as a service, which is just a fraction of games out there. Even the games that do have Microtransactions that doesn’t automatically make it bad. Get out that hating phase and look at the context. All of tangos games flopped and made no money. Only one was critically acclaimed and even that game did nothing. The main team at tango did nothing for 2 years after the studio head left. And with them being at the other side of the world and a language barrier it’s hard to justify keeping them around. I don’t like to see people lose their jobs or studios close but it is what it is. In business if you fail or don’t pull your weight you get the boot. Even in our day to day lives if you don’t pull your weight at work you get fired. Simple. It’s life get over it

[@StephonZeno]

@@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24 Telling someone "get over it", surprisingly doesn't make them get over it. Also, there are many games which despite having a price tag, still come with micro-transactions. So no, it's not just live service games.

[@necrosteel5013]

The thing about older games is everything is novel and unique. Most old games are so non-standarized that even games in the same series feel new

[@BadAssMacmillan]

If you're not enjoying modern gaming, here's a list of retro video games that I think everyone should play through at least once (I consider any game before the HD era in the 7th generation as retro): 1. Resident Evil 4 (2005) 2. Super Metroid 3. Super Mario Bros 3 4. Ninja Gaiden Black 5. Metal Gear Solid 1-3 6. Chrono Trigger 7. Metroid Prime 8. Devil May Cry 1&3 9. A Link to the Past 10. Ocarina of Time 11. Rondo of Blood. 12. Resident Evil 1 Remake 13. Half Life 2 14. Deus Ex 15. Doom (1993) 16. Final Fantasy VI & VII (1997) & X 17. Resident Evil 2 (1998) 18. Silent Hill 2 (2001) 19. GTA Vice City & San Andreas 20. Super Mario World 21. Super Mario 64 22. Donkey Kong Country 2 23. Yoshi's Island

[@criticalpixels]

Great list! I'd thrown in some racing games as well: Need for Speed Underground 1 and 2, Burnout 3, Project Gotham Racing and even Mario Kart Double Dash.

[@Mr.Coffee576]

Matrix Path of Neo Spiderman 2 Shadow of Rome Def Jam Splinter Cell Chaos Theory Sonic Advance series X Men Legends 1 and 2 Incredible Hulk 2008 Megaman Starforce 1-3

[@legoclayface]

Don't forget: Tony Hawk franchise LEGO Star Wars Sonic Adventure 1+2 Sonic Heroes Shadow the Hedgehog SpongeBob: Battle for Bikini Bottom Gran Turismo 1-4 Rayman 2: The Great Escape Jet Set Radio Earthworm Jim franchise Spider-Man (2000) Tokyo Xtreme Racer franchise Toy Story 2: Buzz Lightyear to the Rescue Super Smash Bros. franchise GoldenEye 007 The Sims: Bustin' Out (GBA) Conker's Bad Fur Day Pac-Man World series Super Mario Sunshine Ready 2 Rumble Boxing 1+2 TrickStyle Crazy Taxi 1+2 Ratchet and Clank franchise Jak and Daxter franchise

[@Lewtable]

They're not retro by any means, but I would also advice to check out indie games from the last decade as well, given that a bit of money isn't an issue. Games like: Hollow Knight (Metroidvania with a fantastic atmosphere, story and addictive combat), Terraria (Addictive 2D game around building but with a much stronger emphasis on RPG elements and combat compared to games like Minecraft.), Stardew Valley (Highly successful spiritual successor of Harvest Moon, great game for generally good vibes and relaxing gameplay), Project Zomboid (Generally considered one of the best zombie survival sims of all time), A Hat in Time (Spiritual successor of the collect-a-thon genre, cutesy but very fun with a Windwaker inspired artstyle), Hammerwatch (More of a multiplayer game, the sequel "Heroes of Hammerwatch" is more lenient for single-player gameplay), Bindings of Isaac (Widely recognised roguelite) Wizard of Legend & Risk of Rain (Roguelite, wave-based games where you gather upgrades with the intent to reach the end in a single run but very fun combat) Psychonauts (2005, More of a typical 3D platforming adventure game but with a lot of charm and widely recognised as a great game), Shovel Knight (A nod / spiritual successors to older NES / SNES games like the Megaman franchise.) and a special mention to two much more recent games I've gotten a lot of enjoyment out of: Cult of the Lamb (Released 2 years ago, but has fun combat with a interesting music taste, even has its own 24/7 live music youtube channel.) and Valheim. Most of them are fairly well known and most people might have played them already but none the less they're all games with a lot of heart and passion for their craft and generally respect the players time. Over-all I've probably gotten like 3200+ hours between all of these games and had a blast every time I've replayed them. I also wouldn't underestimate the hacking scene for many retro games that might be worth mentioning. If you're a fan of N64 Zelda games or B&K and the like they all have some incredible community made hacks like the Jiggies of Time for B&K and the recent OoT hack, Ultimate Trial.

[@frostreaper1607]

Honestly, great times for us gamers who prefer older games and Indy over modern AAA, all you need is a Steamdeck (or a cheap pc) and internet access.

[@rouvencocker]

Exactly. Between emulators and steam deals, the deck rocks!!!!

[@Atomic-Purple-Guy]

Honestly you can play AAA games on the deck too. Many developers are making games accessible on the deck. BG3 and elden ring are two of the best. Also older AAA titles are perfect too. Like the BioShock series.

[@modernmobster]

I wouldn't exactly sing the praises of most indie/AA games either. Did you see last year's game awards show and this year's summer games fest? Almost all of them were indie/AA and most of them looked like trash.

[@Atomic-Purple-Guy]

@@modernmobster Sometimes you have to look for the good indies. Some might not be your cup of tea. But you still have older indies that you can play. Right now I'm enjoying Celeste and Hypnospace outlaw.

[@Sagegabs]

​@@Atomic-Purple-GuyOh really? And why would we play AAA games in the steamdeck when they're trash? 😂 Focus

[@YaaSalty...0_o]

Modern greed. You get three times more value playing a game made before 2014

[@gingersbeer1]

Fun fact about your comment 2014 is when DEI started to be incorporated

[@YaaSalty...0_o]

@@gingersbeer1 not only that but live service and microtransactions were also added. This is precisely why I said 2014 👊

[@sapphicmystery2734]

So what's bad about darksouls 3, Elden Ring, RDR2, Starwars Jedi Survivor, BG 3, God of war 2018 and 2022, Legend of Zelda BotW/TotK, Hogwarts Legacy and so on? Why are those bad games? Please note that some of those games were in the most popular games of 2023 even managing to beat f2p games.

[@gingersbeer1]

@@sapphicmystery2734 so in 10 years you only have 8 games worth playing? I do not count God of war because that game betrayed the original creators vision and HE himself does not like them and I don't either. So 8 games.. and the games you mention are established IPs Nintendo isn't woke but they do censor. Fromsoft isn't woke, Star wars.. RDR2.. R* first real release in close to 10 years.. BG3 cult following also made by larian who is a Indie developer, even they pandered to the woke mobs by changing genders to type A and B before release. I'm sure you can find more hidden gems worth playing but the point is we were getting banger after banger prior to 2014. Now we get live service, microtransactions, deluxe edition DLC that's more skins. Tbh I could go all day.

[@sapphicmystery2734]

@@gingersbeer1 Fallout 4, Spiderman 1+2, Alan wake 2, Armored Core 6, Remnant 2, Hogwarts Legacy, (Sea of stars and octopath travellers 2), Lies of P, One piece Odyssey, Hi-Fi Rush, Marvel Midnight Suns, Street fighter 6, Super Mario Wonders, Amnesia: The Bunker, Darkest Dungeon 2, Warhammer 40k Rogue Trader, FF16, Ghostrunner 2 are all insanely good games that all released in 2023 alone. I'm sure that you will find a way to explain them away for you but explaining one of the best games of all time away (according to metacritic) by "mimimimimimimi original creator says its bad so I cant think for myself" is just not a healthy mindset to go through in life. You will always find a way to rationalise the best games of all time to be bad. I can do the same: Ac revelation and brotherhood? Builds on an already existing franchise. All Fallout games besides 1? Existing Franchises. Far Cry 2-4? Sorry. Every single Nintendo game? Nope, Nintendo BAD REEEEEEEEEE. Every single game that isnt the introduction to a franchise? Nah, sorry cant be counted. Sorry, but you're never gonna be the audience ANY game dev wants to target. You will never receive a new good game. Meanwhile we'll gourge ourselves on games like Helldivers 2, Eldenring, Sekiro, Rockstar games and all the other insanely high quality games that we just had in 2023.

[@DeenanTheKemon1]

Unsustainable Greed.

[@danielsuguwa746]

Or as Dan Olson of Folding Ideas said, "Line Goes Up" forever mentality.

[@punishthemeatpocket]

CDPR 'we leave greed to others'

[@retrospectivelyspectacular2331]

I played games my entire life, now I am almost 40, I am done. Done done done, I may pick up and play a classic but the days of waiting on new stuff are over.

[@KicksonAcapulco13-no5rd]

Same story - gamedev changed around the years. Some stuff don’t exite it anymore, like in older times.

[@MrPatrickbuit]

Indie games are literally better than ever, and if you're gonna play games with crap graphics anyway then you might as well pick up an indie game.

[@criticalpixels]

Don't give up! We may not be in a golden era of new releases, but as a whole, I think gaming is really thriving... Emulators are better than ever, you can pick up an old 360/PS3 for cheap, indies are great, Steam sales of games from 5~10 years ago and so on. I might make a video about that soon.

[@retrospectivelyspectacular2331]

@@criticalpixels funny you mention the ps360 days, recently bought some missed releases for my ps3 and they are great

[@barbsfpv3066]

You left out the biggest factor: woke politics being forced onto the gaming community. The successful games all had one thing in common, they were escapist. The games that failed also had something in common, they catered to a woke player base that doesn’t exist. Gamers want to lose themselves in a game. The woke instead demand they be represented in the game. They’re two completely conflicting world views, and the biggest mistake a studio can make is tailor their game to people who’d never buy it anyway, and alienate the community they should be marketing to. So gamers are going back to an era where they were valued, and not seen as toxic baggage by game studios, and as the wrong type of customer.

[@cccycling5835]

I don’t give a sh1t about LGBT Purple Hairs problems. They don’t care about me either. That’s why they are trying to destroy the video games industry from the inside.

[@VSMOKE1]

With how good PS2 and GameCube emulation has gotten over the last two years that's where all my time has gone

[@AronHallan]

Games still hold up, graphics are bareable. I love beat em ups from the PS2 era like Beat Down, God Hand, Def Jam, Yakuza... Here comes the pain and early Smackdown vs Raw games were simpler to play and more fun to me.

[@extremepop324]

Also! You can buy hard drives for your older consoles that have every single game in there. There's literally no reason to get into their modern brainwashing depressing games of today

[@AronHallan]

Shout out to Duckstation, PCSX2 and Dolphin, they saved me from consuming depressing political unoriginal copy paste SLOP.

[@WeeG-bwc77]

Dolphin is so damn good and easy. Plus games like Fzero GX, Zelda: TP, Chibi robo, Pikmin 2, Mario Sunshine are all quality games I've been playing over the last few months, they are fun and also unique. and FREE.

[@ZeroXSEED]

@@AronHallan And graphic boosts already a thing that worked. God forbid when they finished AI resolution boost in emulation. Modern games are doomed.

[@RelentlessGaming2000]

I own a PS5 with over 150+ Games on it and I'm just enjoying my PS2 and PS3 a lot.

[@duff0120]

skate 3 on ps3 xd, black ops 1, need for speed carbon, portal 2..... do I need to say more?

[@RelentlessGaming2000]

@@duff0120 Honestly you don't have enough time to say all the good games from the PS2 and PS3 generations 😂

[@duff0120]

​@@RelentlessGaming2000 my favorite ps2 game is resident evil 4

[@Vadim_Slastihin]

I hope you bought them physicaly. Because if not, you're not owning them)

[@gapho5198]

Didn't know the PS5 had so many games...

[@Filmore1991]

Reason being is because game companies are forcing Online service requirement with these newer games, making it more difficult to enjoy the game on your own spare time.

[@OmegaVideoGameGod]

@Filmore1991 It’s the shareholders that started all this nonsense, when the owner of a company figured it can make more money by screwing devs and customers over you’d be shocked that this isn’t anything any, it’s been going on since the retro era, every game is suppose to be longer but due to unrealistic deadlines this shit ruins gaming, I’ll give you a few examples ps2 version of shadow of the colossus and Deus ex the conspiracy, both games were suppose to be longer and due to time constraints they couldn’t fix out the issues Deus Ex is one of the few ps2 games that can sort lock during loading screens.

[@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24]

All the top games being played are online games…

[@lpnp9477]

​@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24 that's because they can track online players. Because they're online games. They can't track people playing offline games.

[@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24]

@@lpnp9477 yes they can….

[@maitreyamanasvin2494]

I have pirated all my favourite games (3TB) and now I can play them wherever and whenever I want. 🏴‍☠️

[@xenoslayer217]

I started going back to older games and couldn't be happier.

[@erockbrox8484]

Game Company: We are sorry that we released the game incomplete, but we will be updating it over the next few years. Thank for your money tho.

[@lukas8708]

exacly, back in a day developers usually have only 1 shot. If they screwed their release badly, then game was forever lost, and the best they could do was to sell the patch to some gaming magazine.

[@billyj.causeyvideoguy7361]

Cost of living going up, layoffs increasing, price of games going up, and everything being less and less enjoyable as corners are cut.

[@emperorarasaka]

"Older games" brother I played these when they came out 😂 feel so old now and I'm only in my mid 30s 😢

[@chisaten]

I'm 40, but I feel younger in a gamer way. Because of being homeschooled, my first video game experience was at university in 2003, so I've been a gamer for only twenty years instead of most of my life like most gamers.

[@lpnp9477]

I mean in terms of technology a few years is antiquated. Doesn't mean bad, just older. Aside from certain Nintendo releases, I prefer old games too.

[@ldcgfx8710]

small indie studios with talented people that make games with passion will save the gaming world

[@airman122469]

Old games are fun. New games want to tell me I’m a racist.

[@NiohArcadia]

Inflation, people having built they're backlog over the years, more and more games becoming second jobs/live services, and smaller games offering complete experience it's no wonder why gamers and pwople stick eith older games.

[@Anonymous-wb3nz]

*their. Spelling and punctuation are hard.

[@saara4179]

Because there’s no new ideas that’s why we are having these problems. Have you notice that Hollywood is having the same problem?

[@criticalpixels]

Yep... And just relying on a well-known brand isn't enough anymore, as recent releases like The Marvels and Furiosa have shown us.

[@RaquanPoki]

lol 😂

[@deoxysandmew2162]

@@criticalpixels Especially when they try to release the said "brand" while putting bare minimum with nothing exciting or new. Recycled same content, cheapest s#!t andworst of all, makes older titles bloated in comparison with features and content. Only those that dont care or have no standards will be purchasing these "modern" games, while the rest will enjoy older titles.

[@abzhuofficial]

​@@criticalpixelssame goes for Final Fantasy, ESPECIALLY FINAL FANTASY 7

[@jinyboi]

Except final fantasy 7 is great

[@Macho_Man_Randy_Savage]

100% agree, the PS2/early to mid X360 era were the golden age of gaming, after which it got progressive worse. i play the occasional new/newish game but i play mostly older games from 2010s and 2000's...sometimes even the 90's. console emulation on pc is another wonderful thing and i love playing those "stuck only on console" games too.

[@B_Machine]

Older games are like classic rock or 80's music. They're media that has stood the test of time so far. There was just as high of a percentage of crap being produced back then as there is now. But the perception is distorted, because we hear lots of the bangers from back then. In reality the vast majority of old media doesn't get revisited to by the average person anymore and falls off or was never good to begin with.

[@p0werfu11]

Classic rock aside from few borderline cases is impressively boring though.

[@johnhess9443]

They don't hire for talent, they don't produce for entertainment. I'll play the stuff from a time when they did. Same with watching tv and movies.

[@naytron210]

New games nowadays are just rehashes of old games with worse ideas.

[@GudiiOnCars]

Old games just slap differently.. passion projects created for passionate gamers that want to escape the world and it's drama and just have fun

[@ross3695_basedhax]

I love how 17 year olds in the comment section say I went back to old games because 'nostalgia' when in reality I never stopped playing them in the first place I first played Mario Kart Wii online around 2009 and still played it online regularly until 2022 when my Wii melted. I also played GTA SA since 2005 and still play multiplayer and watch streams. I still play GTA 4 and cause chaos whenever I'm having a bad day. I play Black Ops 3 zombies with my friends nearly every day. There's absolutely no reason for me to stop playing them if I still enjoy them

[@criticalpixels]

Agreed, I think many games from the 6th gen onwards have aged really well. I can boot up Winning Eleven 10 or some Mario Kart from that era and play for hours, not because I'm just feeling nostalgic, but cuz I'm having fun.

[@chisaten]

Man, reading this has me wanting to pull out my GameCube and revisit Mario Kart: Double Dash. That game has a strategy that none of the other games in that series does. Instead of one driver, you have two characters you can swap between, and all of the characters have some kind of exclusive item they can collect from item boxes.

[@goalhornfanatic9449]

People who say anyone's reason for claiming older games are better being only due to nostalgia are often just unable to provide a good counter argument. So they just try to shut you down with a copout rebuttal of, "Duurr, YoU onLy ThINk iT'S gOoD CuZ NosTAlGiA". Not always, but I feel they think there's no other possible reason, so they just give a lame excuse and claim it can ONLY be nostalgia.

[@aleksei3834]

I always had cheap computers and used to play only old games. Now i tried new games and ...what a surprise! I didn't miss almost anything decent through those years

[@luvr381]

Older games were made by gamers for gamers, but now they're made to satisfy investors.

[@shadowninja6689]

Yep. IMO they also tend to just spend WAY too much time and money on things that don't matter in a game, like having ultra high end graphics instead of focusing on ultra high end gameplay.

[@NeovanGoth]

I started PC gaming in the early 1990s and even back then, most games were made to satisfy investors, and the average quality was quite low.

[@adrianomartinez6231]

old videogames were true videogames

[@razorback9999able]

You know what could revitalize the gaming industry? If they learn from the experiences of arcade developers.

[@phoenixrising4995]

@@razorback9999able They will just shovel micro-transactions into the game to split the profit difference.

[@Diogo85]

So are modern videogames.

[@adrianomartinez6231]

@@Diogo85 Now it's just bussines

[@Diogo85]

@@adrianomartinez6231 They're still real video games and video games have always been a business, just like movies and tv.

[@blast_processing6577]

The middle class is shrinking -- and it has been since the 1970s, but it really kicked into high gear after the 2008 mortgage crisis and again after the pandemic -- and most of that shrinkage is feeding into the lower class. This is affecting who can afford what and how games are being made.

[@Sorain1]

I don't think most of the industry is reacting to that reality. So I don't think it's having much impact on how games are made yet. At least in the sense that one would expect them to slow down on huge expensive projects and aim for a big spread of moderately priced projects that could be sold profitably at lower prices. One would expect more small scale 40-50 dollars at launch titles with smaller teams and budgets, as that can easily get ROI overall even if several of them fail. For the price of 1 AAA game, they can pump out a dozen of these 'AA' or even 'A' games, and even a couple being moderate successes turns out as much or more net profit than the single AAA barring runaway success (think Fortnight) that's highly unlikely. But I don't see that going on so far, which is unfortunate for them and their investors.

[@Jaxxon123]

Interesting, because after 2008, is when gaming really went to shit...

[@Stettafire]

​@@Sorain1I think this lack of a realisation that your player base is poorer now, I think I'd partly why so many of these games are failing. The old motivation tactics aren't working

[@Maya_Ruinz]

While I love playing GT7 and Horizon Forbidden West, I have spent far more money this year on collecting physical PS4 and Xbox 360 games for the future. I spend easily 80% of my gaming time playing older games, I just completed a campaign playthrough of Halo 3 and CoD Infinite Warfare last week.

[@andibintang3888]

IW is underrated 🔥

[@Maya_Ruinz]

@@andibintang3888 definitely my favorite CoD game next to WaW.

[@Clank-j6w]

Old games were made to be fun. Today's games are made to be ad platforms for dlc.

[@Diogo85]

Nope.

[@dutchgamer842]

Some old games have this charm, cause they don't look realistic, they are cartony for example. That was one of the things that used to be fun

[@JimiGosu]

Remakes, prequels, unoriginality, lack of creativity, predatory microtransactions, anti-consumer practices, forced diversity, and game devs hating consumers, among other things. I've been playing Neverwinter Nights and a select few F2P MMOs while waiting for the game industry to regain common sense and imagination. That's right, a 20 year old game has been tying me over while weathering the crappy modern game industry storm. And it is doing an outstanding job of keeping me entertained.

[@greatusername1668]

dead space remake was fucking beast

[@Jinx_Skeel]

Neverwinter Nights rocks! I'm back at the old gold box SSI games and it feels like heaven

[@raggeragnar]

I’m with you all the way ! I currently play Ultima VII both parts , Ultima underworld 1 & 2 , Ultima 8 , Daggerfall , Tron 2.0 , X-wing , Tie fighter , Thief 1 & 2 , Severance-Blade of darkness , Vietcong 1 & 2 , Medal of honor - Allied assault & Pacific assault. Imo , these games were made before the ”Greed” pandemic among publishers and developers.

[@flowrepins6663]

​@@greatusername1668no original is better. Isacs gf is ugly in the r3make and the other girl.lost (.)(.)

[@dudono1744]

Prequels can be interesting.

[@Mephitinae]

Market oversaturation. Too many games trying to replicate the success of existing hit games, competing for the same customer base. Publishers refuse to take risks with big budget games, sticking to proven but stale ideas. The charts are topped by evergreen titles that dominate their own genre by offering a unique experience. Also, the current console generation has failed, lmao. People see no value in owning the latest consoles, as they offer nothing new.

[@nordicwarriorgaming4953]

Because old games are objectively better in every way.

[@MajestadBowser]

Stories like Metal Gear Solid 1998, Chrono Cross 1999, Gears of War 2006, Elder Scrolls Oblivion 2006 Let’s not forget the cool graphics Soul Calibur had on the DreamCast … Those were the days

[@PolarGuy]

Maybe not games that got released on consoles before the video game crash of 1982. From that crash to the start of the 2010's however, bad games tended to be genuine mistakes. People behind them generally put their souls into them. Nowadays, we have the impression that bad games got sabotaged on purpose because of laziness and greed

[@danita122]

you have a fucking skyrim pfp lol

[@nordicwarriorgaming4953]

@@danita122 Skyrim is 13 years old. Different generation.

[@Juhani92]

YEP

[@Heretowatchstuff]

There was a reason those games were popular. It wasn’t because they were new. They were fun to play.

[@teacherfromthejungles6671]

Me, playing Hollow Knight and Okami, "they aren't that old"...

[@paulmullen2620]

I’m currently playing Okami too!

[@flowrepins6663]

​@@paulmullen2620i beaten okami like 2 months ago 😂 intend to play hollow knight

[@AdaTheWatcher]

People should revisit shovel knight and it's dlcs. That game is absolutely amazing.

[@robdom91]

You all know why we play old games. We don't want to spend all our money just so we can be re-educated according to the latest agenda when we play a game. We just want to have fun.

[@kap1618]

Nice conspiracy nonsense.

[@alessandrobaggi6129]

​@@kap1618you are part of the problem

[@robdom91]

​@@kap1618 Why would it be conspiracy? Culture influences art and it's part of western culture now to promote minorities and LGBT is it not? Western countries are over saturated with highly educated argumentative people who learnt gender identity and tolerance policy before they learnt the alphabet. Of all these people that have now grown up, some of them become rich and influential. We're at a point where the agenda is seeping into all forms of art: Movies, video games, music, sculptures, paintings etc. It's profitable now to tell people what is right and what is wrong. Not only are westerners required to obey the laws of their respective country, they also have dedicated consulting firms telling their companies what is the right way to make and consume a multi media product. We can argue about the end goals of this, but the end result is clear: Anyone that immerses themselves in this type of culture and art, is prone to becoming propagandized by it. I choose not to play games based purely on political principals. I just play games for fun. This is why I gravitate towards old games and indie games now.

[@kap1618]

@@robdom91 This is conspiracy nonsense. You're complaining more about the existence of diversity in art rather than judging it by its merit and execution and somehow equate that to re-education. If you want something to blame, then focus on how mainstream entertainment homoginizes everything to appeal to a majority audience rather than allowing media to be niche and experimental. Because that is what becoming mainstream does to all niche media. Diversity has nothing to do with that. Old entertainment was just as political as entertainment now, but you either don't notice or agree with that but disagree with what's being made now.

[@robdom91]

@@kap1618 What are the merits of diversity?

[@MSPintail]

Speaking only for myself the money has literally 0 to do with playing older games and everything to do with preferring to play finished games. Saving money is just a great bi-product of not pre ordering or buying unfinished games on launch. I'd happily pay more than the normal full price for a game on launch if I knew I got everything included and the game worked as advertised. Cyberpunk is probably the game I've been the most hyped about ever, and I was so disappointed when I read the reviews that came out on launch. I haven't bought it yet, but I know my experience will be incredibly more enjoyable when I do in the near future....and I'll probably get it and all DLC at 75% discount in the process.

[@criticalpixels]

I was really hyped for Cyberpunk as well, but then decided to wait and finally played it after the 2.0 patch and the Phantom Liberty DLC. It was a great experience and I even got the platinum for the base game, but wow, what a horrible launch it was.

[@zonesproductions]

Ive been playing games for 40 years and I've watched the growth of the industry over that time. The moment Spore was released with the first DRM i knew the writing was on the wall. Now we have all the horrible AAAA games with bare gameplay and addictive microtransactions. The gaming world has stagnated like so many other industries once the popularity hits a certain amount. Corporate greed has always been there but now they know they can get away with these horrible practices.

[@chloemarzipan6770]

My worst fear is that video games are starting to become more like MMORPGs and mobile games because of micro transactions and that they force you to be online. Endless ads and temptations behind a paywall, suppressing you from satisfying gameplay and customization unless you pay up. 🤢

[@RiasatSalminSami]

Games I avoid these days: 1. Woke games/ games with ESG scoring/ Sweet baby inc involvement or other consultation bs. 2. Games that have microtransactions. 3. Games that are released on broken/ unacceptable state and fixed later with patches. 4. Games that have drm. 5. Games that are boring. 6. Remakes (especially reimaginations). So that's mostly every game in last few years. Since this is a hobby and not a necessity for survival, I don't feel the need to purchase a game if it doesn't completely satisfy me.

[@lssjvegeta7103]

You know it's bad when pokemon stadium looks better than every switch pokemon game

[@ContendCreators]

Patience and Artstyle is better than poly count and fifty games a year

[@AdaTheWatcher]

That's not really the switch's fault though. Gamefreak is just lazy. For example, Luigi's mansion 3, mario Odyssey, breath of the wild and the new paper Mario remake all look absolutely glorious on switch.

[@thesquad2253]

Pokemon Stadium 2 is one the best games ever i might do another playthrough

[@legoclayface]

I'm not even a fan of Pokemon, and even I can admit the older games had love and care put into them unlike the modern Switch ones. The old ones were objectively GOOD, HIGH QUALITY games.

[@mia3033]

This is more of a gamefreak problem, nintendo still has great games

[@thedevilofparadis6107]

Having a blast playing old school games on my phone via emulators

[@kizzydadon1]

same here🙌🏽 ive been glued to def jam and the warriors for a week straight now😂 i also connect my xbox controller to my phone so its basically like playing the same way as back then

[@thedevilofparadis6107]

@@kizzydadon1 awesome. I'm more of a Nintendo fan, so I'm playing mostly gba games on Pizza Boy emulator on Android.

[@denzilnagel254]

I use the delta and gamma emulators.

[@thedevilofparadis6107]

@@denzilnagel254 I wish delta was on Android

[@lukas8708]

we also need to keep in mind that older games were created by let's say a dozen people after work instead of 400. Hell, the very first Polish point-and-click adventure was created by a single dude over the span of 2 years.

[@luketj]

video games aren't video games anymore. most are just interactive movies. waste of time and money

[@LyricsQuest]

New video games are to old video games, as fictional books are to choose your own adventure books.

[@Bobby_T_]

Isn’t that what games are supposed to be though? They’re supposed to be good interactive movies though, not just interactive movies

[@steveee2511]

And Woke Manipulation

[@Diogo85]

Wrong.

[@underthesun-ml4mu]

Older games = Complete single player campaigns, no microtransactions, no politics. Newer games = politics, bugs, expensive pre-orders

[@Timmy-mi2ef]

Old games had politics. They also releases and stayed unfinished

[@Peremptor]

Turns out most gamers don't want to play as dark skinned female protagonists when it comes to action games.

[@o0junglist0o93]

Newer games are mostly lonely experiences, we need more 4 player splitscreen games, especially now many people have 65" TVs

[@criticalpixels]

That's true. I played Onrush for the first time recently and I was really disappointed that it didn't have a split screen feature. To add insult to injury, the servers are no longer online.

[@o0junglist0o93]

@@criticalpixels At least Nintendo still see the value in it

[@Skumtomten1]

I remember playing splitscreen games with my brother and friends when I was younger. Most fun you can ever have in gaming. Now i'm too old and it would be tough to organize such an event, but it is how gaming was "meant" to be played. I get that feeling when I play board games now instead.

[@o0junglist0o93]

@@Skumtomten1 I'm just glad I can still play Mario kart splitscreen with my daughter

[@killertree7958]

Which also only got taken away due to the corporate greed. You can still play coop. You just have to buy a second copy, another console, another tv and we pushed the graphics way too hard and didnt optimize, so it cant handle split screen, but we did this to give you a "better experience". Id take lower end graphics for split screen any day, and no way am I wasting all that money to get extra copies and equipment to play your crappy game. There is a reason why "It Takes Two" won game of the year.

[@MATTY110981]

Last year I brought a Steamdeck and most of the games I have played have been classics from the 6th and 7th generation. The system has given a new lease of life to older games

[@AmgedphaLimael]

Too expensive, not creative, woke, political, console ports and a general dislike to their own customers base. Money money money.

[@Kniffel101]

Video games have literally always been political since their inception.

[@alessandrobaggi6129]

​@@Kniffel101Yes, but they were "suggesting" or "giving the possibility", not "imposing"... 😏

[@Kniffel101]

@@alessandrobaggi6129 Yeah, Metal Gear and Call of Duty are only _hinting_ at politics, right? =P

[@jimb12312]

@@Kniffel101 What was political about PacMan? Mario? Street Fighter 2? Sonic? Wipeout? I've been playing since the Atari days and don't remember political BS

[@Kniffel101]

@@jimb12312 I'm not familiar with Street Fighter lore, but I'm confident there are many political elements in it. Mario having use the "damsel in distress" trope for decades can be seen as political. Atari: How about Missile Command / Warlords (self-explanatory), Space Invaders / Area 51 (shooting at Alien races, directly declaring them as bad), Badlands... There's many, many more examples from that era and later.

[@akamadmaxx]

Woke DEI BS, Predatory micro transactions, garbage launch quality, required connectivity, required kernel level anti cheat software, enormous day one patches, and anti consumer comments from game devs/urinalists

[@tonepilot]

I loathed the change from being able to save when you want over to auto saves. My time is valuable and making me repeat a lengthy section because I died, turns fun into frustration.

[@Alex-pk1iy]

I’ve recently got a HDMI upscaler for my GameCube & loving it! I have also gone back to games I played back in the day but never completed or games I just never got round to buying because money. It’s amazing how old games feel like the made the correct decisions to prioritise gameplay and content over anything else.

[@stephenmurray8559]

Always wanted to do that. Wasn't sure if they worked well

[@RapidPhantom293]

Most people play older games mainly because they are just fun to play, Fallout New Vegas and the older Fallout games are good examples of this, those games are a blast to play no matter how many times you replay it, most companies nowadays are running out of ideas for games and mostly turn to remakes of their older games or a badly made sequel.

[@chunkymilk]

7 years isn’t even old.

[@ПётрПавловский-щ1х]

Chunky milk

[@chunkymilk]

@@ПётрПавловский-щ1х hi.

[@Stettafire]

For real though, back before the internet we'd regularly play video games for that long, if not longer (early 2000s most of my country still didn't have internet)

[@Ignisan_66]

Cause today's "games" suck. It's simple as that.

[@Diogo85]

Most of them don't. It's as simple as that.

[@erockbrox8484]

Also because of the advancement of flash carts, you can now play every retro game ever for your older consoles. Many times when you were just a kid you only had around 10 games, but the console had 1,000 games. This means that there were tons of older games that you never had a chance to play. But thanks to flash carts and emulation, now you can play all of these older games that you missed out on.

[@Sorain1]

I think that's a solid part of it. People have the entire 'best of' catalogues open to them, and with the financial crunch and stressed state they're in, they go for something highly efficient and solidly proven.

[@criticalpixels]

As English isn't my first language, I'd also add the impact of fan made translations. If you gave up on a game as a kid because it was in English or Japanese, you can now often play it on an emulator or modded console with a decent translation.

[@erockbrox8484]

@@criticalpixels Some of the best games I've played are Japanese only games which eventually got a fan hack translation so that now english players and enjoy it too.

[@lukas8708]

not to mention titles that were never released on the Western market who were translated by fans over the years

[@OhDip]

I literally just finished Too Human for Xbox 360, a 6/10 for its time but an 8/10 game compared to today’s release climate.

[@tronam]

Less bullshit, more fun.

[@X-JAKA7]

Most older games from 1993 to 2013 are a lot more fun than some of the newer games from 2014 to present day.

[@illmatic826]

Gaming peaked with the PS2 and early days of PS3

[@Simoss13]

I agree with the most part but feel 2013 was a great year for PS3

[@anthonyduffy6953]

I agree. X360/ps3 is by far peak video games

[@amarg7657]

Agreed

[@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24]

Or you just grew up

[@scrittle]

@@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24 Reserve that for the Nintendo fans

[@Atomic-Purple-Guy]

Because I like old games. Why do people watch old movie's? Because they are good. Honestly I feel like the console generation will be dying soon. With things like the steam deck PC gaming will be the way of the future. Plus the steam sales man its crazy.

[@Atomic-Purple-Guy]

Thanks for the heart. Also the steam review system is really good and pretty accurate. Before you buy it look at those. They can be funny and very informative.

[@lahavmorris9919]

Funny that the rise of wokeism was in 2016 and its only gotten worse for gamers that don't want politics in thier games as the years went by so no surprise that people are playing games from the pre sweetbaby era

[@marcowulliampopirers2216]

I think it's because back in the day the only way to make $$$ in the gaming industry was to make good games,now they just try to squeeze as much money from the players AFTER they buy the game

[@yathishbl3757]

What most people fail to recognise is once wokeness started in the games and movies, they became boring…. This is the only explanation for both games and movies being shit

[@jaykiller4510]

No its not. The movies were pirated via internet. The games were hacked to.

[@Bobby_T_]

The wokeness is a result of the corporations following Twitter and thinking that being woke will appeal to the most people and sell the most, and it got really badly out of hand

[@TheCjman93]

The AAA games industry has become very corporate and risk-averse. It's becoming increasingly distant from the people it sells to, so now there are whole departments that handle different aspects of "the customer side of things", while the actual decision makers are stereotypical suits who really only care about profits and politics. Meanwhile the customer has become more cynical and smaller developers have been squeezed by an ever more crowded market. There have been some really bad trends.

[@CertifiedClapaholic]

Thank BlackRock and Vanguard for the massive DEI push in the tech world. This is the result, a cyber-dystopia.

[@brkbtjunkie]

Oh look, another person that doesn’t understand AUM and instead bleats out misinformation.

[@CertifiedClapaholic]

@@brkbtjunkie oh look, another blind sheep who thinks the whole world is hunkydory and instead is living through Earth's transformation into a hellscape.

[@AronHallan]

@@brkbtjunkie Okay Larry Fink

[@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943]

​@@brkbtjunkiewhat is AUM

[@theodis8134]

Greed is ruining gaming. Microtransactions, live services, massively inflated prices despite the cost to sell games has fallen to virtually nothing thanks to going digital, games designed for engagement rather than be fun and respect your time. Unfortunately this is the result of capitalism and the right doesn't want people to question capitalism so they do what they always do and use minorities as a scapegoat. It's always sad to see just how effective it is with certain groups of people :(

[@Gianne0923]

Older games had more creativity. As someone who has been playing video games since 1990 or 1991, I have seen how over the last 3+ decades gaming has changed for the worse. Don’t get me wrong there are still good video games that come out today but it’s nothing like it was in the 90’s and 00’s. Developers had less to work with which pushed them to be more creative in their approach to making games. Most of my favorite games are from 2-3 decades ago and not just because I grew up with them. It’s too many politics, copy and pasting, and focus on graphical fidelity over prioritizing gameplay nowadays. If a game is pretty but the gameplay sucks or it’s just copying another game it loses its substance. Putting all these politics and microtransactions in games is destroying gaming. I still have a wonderful time going back to my ps1 or original Xbox and remembering when gaming was truly in a better place.

[@Jaxxon123]

This. Everything. This.

[@brianbergmusic5288]

I agree. I remember watching a boss-rush playthrough of R-Type Final II. I was saddened at how uninspired and cobbled together the boss design was -- especially the final boss. My take on the final boss for the "new" game (albeit independently generated) was: *Bydo (Core)/Ebon Eye: You've seen the dinosaurs on a throne of biomechanical hellspawn (R-Type I), you've seen the towering monoliths of Lovecraftian horror and apocalyptic doom (R-Type Final), you've even heard the tales of a demonic looking four-limbed regenerating frog that pursued the pilot to near death at the edge of the gateway dimensions (R-Type-3). Now you face... ... my college dormitory's oldest surviving plasma lamp. Just be gentle -- it's low on batteries.* The final boss and set-pieces in the SNES 2D game (R-Type III) seem a million times more climactic and interesting (it even had a metal soundtrack that sounded creepy and inspired by Castlevania). But don't worry -- new stuff got shiny 3D graphics!

[@AmigaA-or2hj]

Anyone remember a game called- “Saint Dragon?”

[@Virtualblueart]

​@@AmigaA-or2hjThat was with the dragon that trailed segments and got longer the more you powered up? Had it on the Amiga.

[@AmigaA-or2hj]

@@Virtualblueart I don’t think so. For each power up, the dragon gets better and more powerful weapons. The game was an arcade conversion.

[@WizardClipAudio]

I think the first reasons you mentioned are about most of it. Folks are simply sick of shelling out 60-70 bucks on an unfinished product or a game that might be bricked if they turn off the servers to it.

[@carlchapman4053]

Gamers are playing older games because modern games suck balls? Ohh, No! Anyway in other gamer news.... Older games are reclaiming new heights...

[@StephanieHua]

Modern games have too much gay stuff being stuffed down our throats.

[@DarpaProperty]

This is the reason. Games now focus on diversity rather than quality.

[@AdaTheWatcher]

In my opinion having gay stuff in a story isn't inherently bad but it has to serve a purpose. Just like how in old games you also have political stuff but it's actually in character for the world. Lemme give an example: The shadow temple in legend of zelda, A torture chamber ordered by the royal family to silence people who where opposing them. All run by a secret service style organization. The sheikah Meanwhile, pride flags in a spider man game Serves no purpose outside of stuffing a real life political point down people's throats. Like you can pull off a plot with gay characters in an engaging way. Issue is just that modern corpos just use it for virtue signaling.

[@Timmy-mi2ef]

​​@@AdaTheWatcher This is such a bad take. I've thought off a much better argument for your point already. But getting angry at a game for including a pride flag in a city which has pride flags is so dumb

[@MikeJAk49]

@@Timmy-mi2ef Person has a point and clearly a good one if you can't come up with enough counter to it.

[@Diogo85]

No, they don't. That's a straight up lie.

[@mmiskarian2206]

I hate newer media and the corporations who spit it out🥲🤮🤮