Why Is Everyone The Master?

No, Rory Williams is NOT The Master. But it's a sign of a much wider problem...
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[@HarboWholmes]

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[@ambrusraul2297]

Vut ? Vut the yell is this ? Is this the Twilight Zome ? Woooottt? this is wrong in so many levels

[@ptolemeeselenion1542]

The Master is going... *_viral_* .

[@aroundight6163]

My favorite theory is that so many aliens look human because looking human is a survival trait in a setting where it increases the odds of The Doctor randomly showing up to save your people from extinction.

[@eshbena]

LOL head canon accepted.

[@ptolemeeselenion1542]

I have to differ with you. The only reason why many aliens looks human in appareance, let alone why many sapient alien species have a humanoid based physiology, is simply because the Time Lords set their Spiral Politic to tamper with the evolutionary pathway of every life across the universe: so that a larger account of so-called "lesser species" would evolves into the likeness of the Gallifreyan race either way.

[@douglaswolfen7820]

This is genius

[@killerhellhound]

I thought it was cannon that every life form was edited by the time lords to look more like them and humans were able to be altered more or were close to start with

[@funnyfunnyvalentine7991]

My personal theory is that it's just so far in the future that they look human because they descended from Humans. They didn't adapt too far away for the simple reason that humans look specifically for Earthlike planets for colonization. The Dalek, the Timelords, Red Rocket Rising, they all descended from Humans.

[@jamiestevens3074]

Humanoid villain = The Master. The issue is how often the character is used. If you want a timelord villain, use the monk, the Rani, omega, rassilon, or even the eleven. Be creative. Master, Cybermen and daleks need a break.

[@outdater9302]

I don't think the Daleks can get a break (I think there's some kind of agreement with the estate of Terry Nation) but I do think that the master and the cybermen are important to the show so maybe having the cybermen appear every few series and having the master show up at least once or twice a doctor would work. Both are incredibly iconic but also need to be put on the sidelines for a bit so new villain's can come along and have the spotlight for a while. The ice warriors would be a good choice in my opinion as I've always liked them as a concept and they're known by more than a handful of people while still really appearing. In terms of time lords it might be good to bring the Rani back with the Master and have them reluctantly team up or something like that and it would also mean a different time lord character aside from just "deranged madman with genocidal tendencies" and instead it would be a completely different character who has no real emotional attachment and is willing to do whatever she needs to do for her experiments. I understand that with Gallifrey gone again there's even less chance of the Rani than there ever was before but with the right writer I think she might be able to shine.

[@rileytipper5110]

I think every doctor deserves a chance to face off against the master cyber men and Daleks at least once but I agree they have been overused , along with the sleeping angels

[@jamiestevens3074]

@@outdater9302 with the daleks, I think you can get away with only having them as cameos. Series 10 (the pilot) and the tennant specials (waters of Mars) managed it.

[@ashleytuchin7693]

It would be so cool if they actually used the Eleven on TV.

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

@@outdater9302 I thought that that wasn't actually true?

[@Pheebeee_]

I feel the Rory Theories started because Moffat was asked about Rory constantly surviving and all he said was: "There's a reason for it, and it's a big reason" Unfortunately that reason was an Angel had claimed his death to a fix point. People wanted to orbit around he's a bigger character than he appears.

[@jacks.6243]

Peak Moffat, that.

[@jamesmayle3787]

Attention please: To everyone who’s ever wondered, God is real. The Bible is truth. The key that so many miss is in the inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Specifically forgiveness. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s a mandatory requirement that keeps God at arm’s length until you’ve done it. Specifically forgiving our parents. It’s a secret truth of this universe. Our parents have generally loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing etc. They are supposed to be the easiest people for anyone to forgive. That’s why it was made the bare minimum stander for us. If there’s love in your heart you forgive. It shows so much love and faith to God. You have to genuinely look inside, process your emotions, and forgive from within your heart. Complete forgiveness is an act of love. No rewards, bribes, or apologies necessary. That’s where all this starts, within your heart. God basically doesn’t care until you’ve paid this mustard seed of faith. After you do this he takes notice. He sets you on a path that will lead you to the true knowledge of him. God is love, and he and the more you show love the more you understand God. Please, before you dismiss me, please consider my words. I don’t share this for no reason. You must forgive. It heals your soul. It will lead you to truth. Please, just do. Also, please read at least three books of the Bible, Genesis Mathew and one you chose yourself. It is so important. Pray to Jesus Christ, break down those walls you’ve built up there, and ask for forgiveness for yourself. We all need it. Both giving and receiving. Please. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is the way truth and life. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@leejjjjjjj1]

he’s river songs father, which makes him the doctors literal father in law. i think that’s a pretty big character in itself lol

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

I mean I think the reason moffat said that is because he was planning on doing more with him. from what I understand, Angels in Manhattan wasn't what he intended to be the exit for rory and amy, they were meant to stick around a bit longer

[@troodon1096]

The main reason he survived all the time is he had a really good agent.

[@christianwise637]

"I love humans, always seeing patterns in things that aren't there" - the Eighth Doctor

[@gamerhoagy5998]

What ever happened to him being half-human? Paul McGann had a lot of promise. Shame he only did the Movie (and the Big Finish stuff).

[@marshallhuffer4713]

Don't forget the prequel to the 50th anniversary special.

[@HOTD108_]

@@gamerhoagy5998 Russel T Davies didn't like that plot development (neither did most fans) so when the revival series started in 2005 they just ignored it, and then fully retconned it Journey's End when they explicitly say that The Doctor is fully Time Lord, with Donna Noble being described as the first Time Lord/Human hybrid. It's very much a "just ignore it" issue, with there not being a direct in-universe explanation for the inconsistency. Honestly, at this point, I'm fine with them just ignoring it. Doctor Who is full of contradictions, and this is just another one.

[@gamerhoagy5998]

@@HOTD108_ I was being rhetorical, but thanks for the explanation anyway. Another reason why Rodan (the Time Lady in The Invasion of Time that befriended Leela, not the big bird monster that fought Godzilla) didn't just regenerate into a bloke if she didn't like the limited career advancement opportunities imposed on Time Ladies that she was moaning about.

[@meurer13daniel]

@@HOTD108_ ohh okay, so we can do the same stuff with the Timeless Children. 10/10

[@Jedi_Spartan]

I thought it was "Everyone is the Rani until proven otherwise"...

[@rakdos36]

Well these theories can be excused with people wanting the rani to be reintroduced. While this theory is just silly.

[@Jay-ys2cf]

@@rakdos36 I think its insane the Rani hasn't been reintroduced considering how loud people have been about it and for how long they've asked whilst the writers recycle the same classic who characters over and over

[@filthycasual8187]

@@Jay-ys2cf They should have had Missy be the Rani instead of the Master. But they just wanted to cement the whole "no-rules regeneration" thing so they could push their woke agenda.

[@Jay-ys2cf]

@@filthycasual8187 Missy is a great addition as the master and is a really fleshed out character, don’t give me the whole “woke agenda” nonsense 🙄

[@filthycasual8187]

@@Jay-ys2cf She doesn't act like the Master at all outside of being crazy. And even then, the Master was at his best when he was a mustache (beard?) twirling Bond villain. Missy's a great character, yes. But she never should have been the Master.

[@bohdan_lvov]

I think Harbo Wholmes is the Master who's trying to detract us from the idea that Master could be everywhere

[@HarboWholmes]

shit you got me

[@thephoenixsystem6765]

@@HarboWholmes I... will... obey... you

[@hasatdr]

@@thephoenixsystem6765 nice reference

[@jamesmayle3787]

Attention please: To everyone who’s ever wondered, God is real. The Bible is truth. The key that so many miss is in the inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Specifically forgiveness. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s a mandatory requirement that keeps God at arm’s length until you’ve done it. Specifically forgiving our parents. It’s a secret truth of this universe. Our parents have generally loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing etc. They are supposed to be the easiest people for anyone to forgive. That’s why it was made the bare minimum stander for us. If there’s love in your heart you forgive. It shows so much love and faith to God. You have to genuinely look inside, process your emotions, and forgive from within your heart. Complete forgiveness is an act of love. No rewards, bribes, or apologies necessary. That’s where all this starts, within your heart. God basically doesn’t care until you’ve paid this mustard seed of faith. After you do this he takes notice. He sets you on a path that will lead you to the true knowledge of him. God is love, and he and the more you show love the more you understand God. Please, before you dismiss me, please consider my words. I don’t share this for no reason. You must forgive. It heals your soul. It will lead you to truth. Please, just do. Also, please read at least three books of the Bible, Genesis Mathew and one you chose yourself. It is so important. Pray to Jesus Christ, break down those walls you’ve built up there, and ask for forgiveness for yourself. We all need it. Both giving and receiving. Please. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is the way truth and life. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@alansmithee419]

@The Doctor I don't; that's always been part of its charm.

[@veggie928]

Can't wait for the Capaldi videos to come in! The 12th Doctor is not only my favorite Doctor but his series was the peak for me. Not only did I watch his series as it came out, but so did my dad. He also loved Capaldi! Capaldi is the GOAT!

[@warrenny1168]

Not my favourite doctor but he has my favourite who episodes the series 10 finale

[@DiamondHackerz]

tbf the 12 doctor being the master works - an evil incarnation who gets turned good by Missy (the doctor)

[@tty23]

Alot of fans don't see his greatness, but he is amazing... Particularly when he ditches Clara.

[@focusyipls4986]

clara played a really good part on making capaldi stand off. MY favorite will always be tennant but capaldi and smith were really great

[@dialnh]

@@tty23 Clara was a lot less annoying when she was with 12. Clara with 11 was bad yeah but with 12 she had way more personality and chemistry imo

[@kingpinogaming3366]

Honestly I loved this theory not because I really thought it was true. But because I love the idea of the doctor having a long-term companion that was evil and hiding right under their nose.

[@statistical-cats-sophia]

I still think this would be a very fun twist on a companion! Maybe not a super long-term companion, but one that's been around for half a season would be a fun arc

[@f-zilla7347]

I honestly kinda like the theory, the problem is it obviously wasn’t meant to be in the show. I’d love for a companion to be revealed to be a secret villain manipulating events from behind the scenes before revealing themselves. Also, the theory is 100% pure Moffat. Because it sounds like the same stuff that fans of Sherlock came up with. I guess Moffat just has that effect on fans.

[@mikaelastefkova]

I was thinking that I'd love to see a companion who turns out to be the Rani or even someone else from Classic Who.. they'd have some history with the Doctor already so Classic Who fans could suspect something, tho it wouldn't be obvious 🤔✨Or even a new villan as you said, I'd love to see that!

[@f-zilla7347]

@@mikaelastefkova Sure. Although I'd like some Time Lord antagonists who weren't the Master. Perhaps a survivor of the Time War who wants to kill the Doctor for what they believed he/she did to Gallifrey.

[@mikaelastefkova]

@@f-zilla7347 Mhm! I totally agree and this would be an interesting concept! ✨ Maybe someone who would want to kill the Doctor, but being their companion they'd find out the Doctor isn't so evil and the War Doctor had to make the decision eventually 🤔

[@cameronjosephvideos5942]

Honestly, I'm surprised the whole companion betrayal has never happened before. OK there was Turlough, but he seemed very conflicted about the whole thing and eventually chose to side with the Doctor. But in all the Doctor's adventures everyone he picks up always seems to love him and have some unshakeable loyalty to him. It would be interesting to see a companion who the Doctor just shouldn't have trusted.

[@mikaelastefkova]

@@cameronjosephvideos5942 Yeah! I'd love that!

[@f-zilla7347]

The Doctor is actually the Master, who is actually the Rani, who is actually the Meddling Monk, who is actually Omega, who is actually Susan, who is actually Romana, who is actually the Doctor.

[@MyBelovedGhostAndMe]

Who is actually the valeyard, who is actually the devil, who is actually turlough, who Is actually mayor me, who is actually an adipose

[@nicholaskehler9169]

@@MyBelovedGhostAndMe you guys forgot Jenny and Davros

[@astrochaos4182]

The doctor is actually plastic Mickey from Rose

[@gamerhoagy5998]

@@astrochaos4182 Or Metal Mickey from....Metal Mickey.

[@astrochaos4182]

@@gamerhoagy5998 or Bertha, from Bertha

[@sanddagger36]

Steven Moffat's curse of the fatal death took the absurdity of regenerations and pushed it to the extremes. Now they need to make a sequel where everyone is secretly a timelord.

[@gamerhoagy5998]

That was absolutely brilliant. Joanna Lumley is the only person to date who could effectively portray a female Doctor.

[@liamscienceguy8153]

Companion thats actually a future chameleon arched incarnation of the doctor

[@redjirachi1]

There's a twist they should do with the Master: have a heroic character turn out to be the Master. The Master is a character who has plenty of potentially unseen incarnations due to his use of different bodies, the whole 12 regenerations limit being introduced when only 2 people played the character ect. You could have it that a Master from a lot earlier in his timestream shows up and have to deal with the drama he'll eventually break bad one day or a Master who's trying to be good but we know he'll eventually fail to do so. It'd be like an inverted Valeyard situation

[@TheInternetHelpdeskPlays]

The one thing that may have worked, or even helped 13. The Master lied and the entire line of timelords was based on The Master as the timeless child and not The Doctor.

[@ZemplinTemplar]

Great essay. :-) Honestly, Rory is too wholesome and ego-less a character to be the Master in disguise. The Master is clever, but too much of an egotist to hide his or her identity for too long or be truly selfless.

[@timthorson52]

Yana was quite selfless, doing his best to help the people. Unfortunately the place he was helping the people get to was a trap set up by the Master, Yana had no idea it was a trap.

[@R.senals_Arsenal]

I don't ever hear these fan theories until someone like you on KZbin points them out because this is the ONLY social media I take part in. So the very idea that someone would think Rory was the Master just had me glued cause i'm like "Who on Earth ever thought that?!" I've only taken part in constructing fan theories since Chibnall wrecked so much continuity for me that I've had to just out of copium, hoping there can be a retconn of the retconns.

[@Jono5626]

I've just completely lost the plot with the newest seasons its all just been retconned with no regard for continuity. Like I don't expect 100% continuity but its just so gone

[@Here_is_Waldo]

One problem is people often saying Doctor Who ignores lore. It's a bit loose at times, but there always used to be the frame of continuity to keep things logical. Yet some still use it to justify any ass pull that happens.

[@Jono5626]

@@Here_is_Waldo This is exactly what I mean, I'm really sick of people comparing small continuity issues to dismantling the entire lore

[@R.senals_Arsenal]

@@Jono5626 Yeah, I agree, there were minor flubs here and there, there always will be in a shared writing environment, but CC just screwed it all so savagely it's hard not to be affected by the awful.

[@R.senals_Arsenal]

@@Here_is_Waldo They really need one of us as a continuity police officer in the writing room. I mean at least someone with opposable thumbs who can find the TARDIS wiki!!

[@brobs0463]

Oh my god what if Yaz is revealed to be a secret time lord, I wouldn’t put it past them. Maybe she’s the timeless child. Maybe what’s important is the timeless children we met along the way

[@jamesmayle3787]

Attention please: To everyone who’s ever wondered, God is real. The Bible is truth. The key that so many miss is in the inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Specifically forgiveness. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s a mandatory requirement that keeps God at arm’s length until you’ve done it. Specifically forgiving our parents. It’s a secret truth of this universe. Our parents have generally loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing etc. They are supposed to be the easiest people for anyone to forgive. That’s why it was made the bare minimum stander for us. If there’s love in your heart you forgive. It shows so much love and faith to God. You have to genuinely look inside, process your emotions, and forgive from within your heart. Complete forgiveness is an act of love. No rewards, bribes, or apologies necessary. That’s where all this starts, within your heart. God basically doesn’t care until you’ve paid this mustard seed of faith. After you do this he takes notice. He sets you on a path that will lead you to the true knowledge of him. God is love, and he and the more you show love the more you understand God. Please, before you dismiss me, please consider my words. I don’t share this for no reason. You must forgive. It heals your soul. It will lead you to truth. Please, just do. Also, please read at least three books of the Bible, Genesis Mathew and one you chose yourself. It is so important. Pray to Jesus Christ, break down those walls you’ve built up there, and ask for forgiveness for yourself. We all need it. Both giving and receiving. Please. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is the way truth and life. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@spacey_432]

I think there's nothing wrong with people speculating, it's only when they make a fuss about their idea of what should've happened, not happening. I'm a big lover of theory videos, watching them always gets me excited for what might actually happen, and though I know it's realistically not true, imagining what could be opens up a lot of possibilities - and can even inspire fanworks, well-made or otherwise. Kind of like those theories about Jar Jar being a sith lord in Star Wars, I think the idea is fantastic, and it'd make a great fan story or fan comic. I'm not as big into the Rory master idea, but I like the spirit of theorycrafting -- again, the only rankle is when people complain. In the end, I believe there's a healthy balance to be had where you can enjoy a crazy theory but not set your expecations for it to appear in the show or film or what have you

[@mccorade5941]

Rory being the Master is a really fun fanfic idea that I love to read, but I'm glad the theory turned out to be false. It just would not have fit Rory in a narrative sense.

[@jamesmayle3787]

Attention please: To everyone who’s ever wondered, God is real. The Bible is truth. The key that so many miss is in the inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Specifically forgiveness. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s a mandatory requirement that keeps God at arm’s length until you’ve done it. Specifically forgiving our parents. It’s a secret truth of this universe. Our parents have generally loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing etc. They are supposed to be the easiest people for anyone to forgive. That’s why it was made the bare minimum stander for us. If there’s love in your heart you forgive. It shows so much love and faith to God. You have to genuinely look inside, process your emotions, and forgive from within your heart. Complete forgiveness is an act of love. No rewards, bribes, or apologies necessary. That’s where all this starts, within your heart. God basically doesn’t care until you’ve paid this mustard seed of faith. After you do this he takes notice. He sets you on a path that will lead you to the true knowledge of him. God is love, and he and the more you show love the more you understand God. Please, before you dismiss me, please consider my words. I don’t share this for no reason. You must forgive. It heals your soul. It will lead you to truth. Please, just do. Also, please read at least three books of the Bible, Genesis Mathew and one you chose yourself. It is so important. Pray to Jesus Christ, break down those walls you’ve built up there, and ask for forgiveness for yourself. We all need it. Both giving and receiving. Please. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is the way truth and life. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

About Rory not really reacting to the whole "Bigger on the Inside" thing, I bring up the Tenth Doctor audio story Dead Air. (Yes. Shut up, I'm serious.) Guest companion Leila is totally accepting when The Doctor explains who he really is, saying "When you've met The Beatles nothing surprises ya'..." Some people just aren't easily shocked by alien time travellers. By the way, will you be covering the "Harriet Jones is the Supreme Dalek" theory people had for some reason?

[@HarboWholmes]

The WHAT

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

@@HarboWholmes Yeah, this was a real thing that was kicking around in 2008. I have NO IDEA how it started, so I'd love to see a video about it! Oh, and theories like this partly come about because of the showrunners. Remember how Moffatt has said that Doctor Moon from Silence in the Library is a pre-Hartnell Doctor, and that CAL is a Clara Echo, even though neither of those make any sense?

[@spareaccounts5168]

I think what's frustrating is that half the fan theories end up being better than the last ~6 seasons or so. e.g. Missy: I was really hoping that was some kind of "entry to heaven" in the first few episodes, and that the "good dalek" dying made way for some kind of twisted Dalek invasion of heaven. Instead... we got what we got. a rushed finale that while noone probably saw coming... we all regret seeing.

[@Ryukuro]

A dalek invasion of heaven would be ridiculous. I love it

[@jamesmayle3787]

Attention please: To everyone who’s ever wondered, God is real. The Bible is truth. The key that so many miss is in the inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Specifically forgiveness. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s a mandatory requirement that keeps God at arm’s length until you’ve done it. Specifically forgiving our parents. It’s a secret truth of this universe. Our parents have generally loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing etc. They are supposed to be the easiest people for anyone to forgive. That’s why it was made the bare minimum stander for us. If there’s love in your heart you forgive. It shows so much love and faith to God. You have to genuinely look inside, process your emotions, and forgive from within your heart. Complete forgiveness is an act of love. No rewards, bribes, or apologies necessary. That’s where all this starts, within your heart. God basically doesn’t care until you’ve paid this mustard seed of faith. After you do this he takes notice. He sets you on a path that will lead you to the true knowledge of him. God is love, and he and the more you show love the more you understand God. Please, before you dismiss me, please consider my words. I don’t share this for no reason. You must forgive. It heals your soul. It will lead you to truth. Please, just do. Also, please read at least three books of the Bible, Genesis Mathew and one you chose yourself. It is so important. Pray to Jesus Christ, break down those walls you’ve built up there, and ask for forgiveness for yourself. We all need it. Both giving and receiving. Please. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is the way truth and life. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@sketchsskotch1073]

My favourite theory/headcanon is that The Doctor is a time lord.

[@emperorholocron8278]

Honestly it was still too soon to bring The Master back after Missy, especially with the beautiful arc she had in s10. Chibnall should’ve made Sacha The Rani especially since his master is very experimental biologically

[@eshbena]

I pretend that the entirety of Chibnell's era was simply a very bad dream the Doctor had. XD

[@Scrummy64]

This was the issue I had with Dhawan's Master; we'd just seen one of the most interesting and nuanced portrayals of the character ever with Gomez, and then barely two years later they brought him/her back again as a cartoon villain. I personally am fully subscribed to the theory that his incarnation is in between Simm and Gomez chronologically (even moreso now having seen how his story ended in TPotD) so it didn't necessarily compromise Missy's S10 arc to characterise him the way they did, but it was still jarring to see such a reduction in depth after such a short period of time

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

@@Scrummy64 There's already a canon audio adventure that explains the transition, basically there was a version of the master that was completely good after missy, but she's again killed by a past version of herself. I mean, it kinda makes sense that if you were killed by literally yourself, TWICE, specifically because of the doctor (or at least, it seems like the kinda jump an incarnation of the master would make to believe that since the doctor turned her good and being good is why she died that the doctor is the reason she died) youd get a bit jaded, kinda self hating, and want to either die, kill the doctor, or become her

[@eliphas_vlka]

@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 and thats bad storytelling if you do an story like that an just put it on an audio story, it feels like a cheap explanation to justify

[@leeci33]

I didn’t even know there was a ‘Rory is the Master’ theory. But now I love it and it will always make me giggle when I watch the show now. Thanks for sharing.

[@acanimations1223]

Have to say, the most annoying one for me was one i came across under strange circumstances. Once in an after school club at the local community centre, i sprayed my eye with paint, dumb i know, and yes it was accidental, but nonetheless i had to sign the form taking responsibility so the centre doesn't get sued for child harm or whatever. The admin guy i had to talk to asked my interests to which i answered doctor who. He then started telling me about his memories from the 70's, telling me about how the 4th doctor fought the sea devils. Despite only being about 10 at the time i was well versed in classic who and told him it was the 3rd and 5th doctors, he told me i was wrong, insulting my 23rd of november heritage (yes that was my birthday, and getting 8th and 18th birthdays on 50th and 60th respectively was and will be fun), and then went on to tell me the biggest twist of them all, davros is the master. Lucky for the guy the form got signed as he said that and i left the room, as i don't think i would have had self-control for a structured or polite come back at that age. :D Moral of the story, the master isn't davros, and in fact adam is davros, which is a theory that was so crazy i can't even be mad about it. Opening head thing = third eye, wait a second are the silurians davros? :)

[@Neil070]

Dr. Strange is Davros. If you've seen M of M, if not....spoilers! BTW, auto correct keeps changing Davros to Davies.....🤔

[@acanimations1223]

@@Neil070 I have seen it, nice catch 😀

[@navijam6155]

As much as Rory dying became a gimmick, they always brought him back in reasonably believable ways (in the context of doctor who anyway) it was always a plot oriented death and the plot brought him back to life in lots of different ways. He never had a death where I questioned the way in which he came back. Even the Masters second return in Tennant's run was less believable as a plot than pretty much all of Rory's reanimations. Rory doesn't regenerate. With the amount of times he has died, if he were a Time Lord we would have seen a regeneration by now.

[@jb888888888]

Maybe Master!Rory has vanity issues.

[@YesTHATJohnSmith]

Now, I want Rory to get a regeneration--- strike that, a FULL cycle! 🙂

[@jb888888888]

If Rory is the master specifically because he's not shocked by the inside of the TARDIS then Sgt. Benton was the Master first. DOCTOR: Well, Sergeant, aren't you going to say it that it's bigger on the inside than it is on the outside. Everybody else does. BENTON: It's pretty obvious, isn't it? -- "The Three Doctors"

[@YesTHATJohnSmith]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 🥂

[@blueknight07]

I have a theory that O from spyfall is the master. The ending of Part one is giving me those kind of vibes. Anyone agree?

[@crazypomp927]

I had a theory that The Master was secretly behind The Silence, and it all started with me wondering how The Silence could have possibly had the technology and knowhow to remotely high jack the TARDIS and fly it into the sun. That's not a thing that anyone other than the Time Lords should be able to do. So The Master being the mastermind behind it made sense, but there really wasn't much else to the theory.

[@Hoveai]

There are several races in classic who that can manipulate tardises including the Daleks. The Daleks even make their own Tardis is one episode. Exxilon technology drains the power from everything near by including tardises and Dalek ships. Plus much more. There's a hand full of races that have the capability to do a lot to a tardis. It's just these newer writers don't seem to be aware of them. Only really the Daleks which is a shame.

[@rac.86]

I'd never heard of this theory. Really can't understand why people would push this one! Thanks for the vid Harbo.

[@jackaylward-williams9064]

Between 2014 and 2017, I came up with three different theories about how Missy was really Clara. My first theory was that she was just an older version of Clara, which was largely based on the fact that both characters refer to The Doctor as their boyfriend in Deep Breath. After her true identity was revealed, I changed tack, assuming that, just like Tremas from The Keeper Of Traken and Bruce from Doctor Who: The Movie, Clara would eventually be possessed by The Master’s dissembodied consciousness, possibly when she was near the crack in time on Trenzalore thst led to Gallifrey, the last place that Missy’s predecessor had been known to be. I was guessing that the Season 9 finale would involve The Doctor trying to force The Master out of Clara’s body (possibly in a callback to Rose being pissesed by Cassandra in New Earth), but failing, and Clara dying when Missy is shot by The Brigadier at the end of Death In Heaven. Despite accidentally predicting that Clara would “die” in the same way as Missy in The Magician’s Apprentice, I was ultimately proven wrong 2 fold by the Season 9 finale killing Clara off and then bringing her back in a state in which she would never age. I did not give up on my theory however, this time postulating that Clara absorbed some of the regeneration energy that The Doctor gave Davros in The Witch’s Familiar, enough for her to regenerate into Missy after dying on Trap Street. My initial thought was that Clara had in fact been possessed by The Master during the events of Hell Bent, since the vault that she and The Doctor traverse to steal a TARDIS looked like exactly the sort of place that The Time Lords would have imprisoned The Master’s consciousness after his attempt on Rassilon’s life in The End Of Time, however I later decided that my initial assumption that The Master had escaped from Gallifrey through the crack in time seemed mire plausible, since it explained Missy’s actions in The Witch’s Familiar. We’re made to think that she’s only protecting Clara from the daleks so that she can mess with The Doctor by tricking him into exterminating Clara himself, but it would make even more sense if she knew that Clara was already possessed by her younger self and wanted to make sure that she stayed alive until she had absorbed the regeneration energy, after which it was all the better for her if Clara died earlier in her timeline, since Missy would come into being sooner and have time to upload even more people to The Nethersphere in preparation for the events of Dark Water /Death In Heaven. Suffice to say, I’m not that keen on The Doctor Falls, since it not only definitively debunks my theory, but also misses out on the incredibly obvious opportunity to set up the events of Dark Water /Death In Heaven. So yeah, it’s never a good idea to try and predict what a writer will do next.

[@geesefeeders1]

Great video mate! Can’t wait to see your essays on Capaldi’s era, since you’ve said it’s one of your favourites

[@LouYT-27]

@@george4821 he might have watched it on patreon

[@george4821]

@@LouYT-27 Oh right, my bad.

[@geesefeeders1]

@@george4821 hahah yeah I watched patreon. No worries though mate

[@george4821]

@@geesefeeders1 Ohh, that makes more sense 😂😂 Sorry again

[@jamesmayle3787]

Attention please: To everyone who’s ever wondered, God is real. The Bible is truth. The key that so many miss is in the inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Specifically forgiveness. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s a mandatory requirement that keeps God at arm’s length until you’ve done it. Specifically forgiving our parents. It’s a secret truth of this universe. Our parents have generally loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing etc. They are supposed to be the easiest people for anyone to forgive. That’s why it was made the bare minimum stander for us. If there’s love in your heart you forgive. It shows so much love and faith to God. You have to genuinely look inside, process your emotions, and forgive from within your heart. Complete forgiveness is an act of love. No rewards, bribes, or apologies necessary. That’s where all this starts, within your heart. God basically doesn’t care until you’ve paid this mustard seed of faith. After you do this he takes notice. He sets you on a path that will lead you to the true knowledge of him. God is love, and he and the more you show love the more you understand God. Please, before you dismiss me, please consider my words. I don’t share this for no reason. You must forgive. It heals your soul. It will lead you to truth. Please, just do. Also, please read at least three books of the Bible, Genesis Mathew and one you chose yourself. It is so important. Pray to Jesus Christ, break down those walls you’ve built up there, and ask for forgiveness for yourself. We all need it. Both giving and receiving. Please. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is the way truth and life. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@georgemink1813]

I am surprised to hear this "Rory is the Master" theory. Though, I DO WISH those writers took my idea and revealed that "Clara is actually a Tardis." Nope...."dead, but allowed to live out a lifetime." Sigh..I hate fake death in Sci-fi.

[@jamesmayle3787]

Attention please: To everyone who’s ever wondered, God is real. The Bible is truth. The key that so many miss is in the inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Specifically forgiveness. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s a mandatory requirement that keeps God at arm’s length until you’ve done it. Specifically forgiving our parents. It’s a secret truth of this universe. Our parents have generally loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing etc. They are supposed to be the easiest people for anyone to forgive. That’s why it was made the bare minimum stander for us. If there’s love in your heart you forgive. It shows so much love and faith to God. You have to genuinely look inside, process your emotions, and forgive from within your heart. Complete forgiveness is an act of love. No rewards, bribes, or apologies necessary. That’s where all this starts, within your heart. God basically doesn’t care until you’ve paid this mustard seed of faith. After you do this he takes notice. He sets you on a path that will lead you to the true knowledge of him. God is love, and he and the more you show love the more you understand God. Please, before you dismiss me, please consider my words. I don’t share this for no reason. You must forgive. It heals your soul. It will lead you to truth. Please, just do. Also, please read at least three books of the Bible, Genesis Mathew and one you chose yourself. It is so important. Pray to Jesus Christ, break down those walls you’ve built up there, and ask for forgiveness for yourself. We all need it. Both giving and receiving. Please. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is the way truth and life. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@jb888888888]

Well TBF during "The End of Time" Rory _was_ the Master, along with Amy and everyone else on Earth. Including the Fugitive Doctor.

[@YesTHATJohnSmith]

🍾🥂🍻🥂🍻 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@rurrjh]

This is one of my problems with the Timeless child. - Every odd character was then a pre Hartnell doctor.

[@remingtonryder]

It honestly never crossed my mind that Rory might be The Master. On the other hand, The Master is conspicuously absent throughout the 11th Doctor's time. We're lulled into a sense of security with Sim's Master stuck in the Time War. However, as we've seen, when the Time Lords aren't around to fix things, time itself can be damaged (see S1E8 Fathers Day) so, things which were previous immutable (fixed points) could change. Like Jackie's memories of how Pete died. So if you're The Master, any weak points in time are like open vaults full of riches. Why wouldn't you take advantage of an opportunity to disguise yourself but also keep tabs on what The Doctor is up to these days? The writers go to some lengths to explain why the 12th Doctor took a particular face. They could have also done the same for Missy, but instead there's a big chasm of nothing that you can fill with any theory you like. I think that they're banking on that, actually. The moment that they lock something in like where a face came from, they're stuck with that, but leaving things open means that they can do a call back later on if it suits the storyline.

[@mikemckenzie1397]

Top quality video! Would love to see more like it. It's been really good watching your channel grow and your stuff over the past few months has been cracking, can't get enough haha

[@jamesmayle3787]

Attention please: To everyone who’s ever wondered, God is real. The Bible is truth. The key that so many miss is in the inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Specifically forgiveness. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s a mandatory requirement that keeps God at arm’s length until you’ve done it. Specifically forgiving our parents. It’s a secret truth of this universe. Our parents have generally loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing etc. They are supposed to be the easiest people for anyone to forgive. That’s why it was made the bare minimum stander for us. If there’s love in your heart you forgive. It shows so much love and faith to God. You have to genuinely look inside, process your emotions, and forgive from within your heart. Complete forgiveness is an act of love. No rewards, bribes, or apologies necessary. That’s where all this starts, within your heart. God basically doesn’t care until you’ve paid this mustard seed of faith. After you do this he takes notice. He sets you on a path that will lead you to the true knowledge of him. God is love, and he and the more you show love the more you understand God. Please, before you dismiss me, please consider my words. I don’t share this for no reason. You must forgive. It heals your soul. It will lead you to truth. Please, just do. Also, please read at least three books of the Bible, Genesis Mathew and one you chose yourself. It is so important. Pray to Jesus Christ, break down those walls you’ve built up there, and ask for forgiveness for yourself. We all need it. Both giving and receiving. Please. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is the way truth and life. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@DanTheMan2150AD]

Every female in Who is the Rani.

[@occheermommy]

My son is 22 and has a fob watch. His late grandmother bought it for him because she liked the saying on it so she bought it for him and he loves historic type items. Maybe he’s a timelord in hiding too

[@AdrianParkinsonFilms]

I hadn't heard the Rory theory. The main theory I know of is the Metacrisis Doctor being the Valeyard.

[@legendg219]

But he can't regenerate though so it can't be him!

[@EGGPLAYUH420j9]

I currently have a headache I think that’s evidence I’m the master

[@mathieuleader8601]

I was really hoping at the time of the Spyfall episode that the Derwan Master to be a pre-Delgado master given his penchant for using the tissue compression eliminator and youthful appearance

[@HardCorePoration]

The real Master is the friends we made along the way.

[@someriversong1793]

Another theory: The doctor is the master. The timeless child reveal means there are lots of regenerations the doctor doesn't know about. Some of these regenerations could have been the master before they changed they're name to the doctor. The master went with themself to the academy.

[@badbeardbill9956]

Well there’s some weird stuff the Master said about them being childhood friends though, that said the whole thing being the Master going crazy would be hilarious

[@eliphas_vlka]

So the ...relationship with the doctor will be closer to like... masturbation than love as implied?

[@poizonparfait]

I think the bigger issue in a lot of cases of bonkers fan theories was with Moffat's writing: he's constantly trying to imply that there's a reasonable explanation to anything and then either forgets to give it or comes up with new concepts to not let a single expectation go unsubverted. Of course the viewer would try to create theories to fill the void of answers, where the actual contents are "nothing, lol." After all, reasonable explanations already exist in the canon, but no, we're too clever for that - the Rory double was created from memory residue and a book about Centurions because fuck you for paying attention.

[@ashleytuchin7693]

Wow, I can't believe I've never heard this theory before, given how much I love the Ponds. I remember an April Fools article that claimed Capaldi was going to be revealed as the Master and Danny Pink was actually going to be the Twelfth Doctor.

[@jamesmayle3787]

Attention please: To everyone who’s ever wondered, God is real. The Bible is truth. The key that so many miss is in the inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Specifically forgiveness. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s a mandatory requirement that keeps God at arm’s length until you’ve done it. Specifically forgiving our parents. It’s a secret truth of this universe. Our parents have generally loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing etc. They are supposed to be the easiest people for anyone to forgive. That’s why it was made the bare minimum stander for us. If there’s love in your heart you forgive. It shows so much love and faith to God. You have to genuinely look inside, process your emotions, and forgive from within your heart. Complete forgiveness is an act of love. No rewards, bribes, or apologies necessary. That’s where all this starts, within your heart. God basically doesn’t care until you’ve paid this mustard seed of faith. After you do this he takes notice. He sets you on a path that will lead you to the true knowledge of him. God is love, and he and the more you show love the more you understand God. Please, before you dismiss me, please consider my words. I don’t share this for no reason. You must forgive. It heals your soul. It will lead you to truth. Please, just do. Also, please read at least three books of the Bible, Genesis Mathew and one you chose yourself. It is so important. Pray to Jesus Christ, break down those walls you’ve built up there, and ask for forgiveness for yourself. We all need it. Both giving and receiving. Please. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is the way truth and life. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@jamiewilson3599]

The problem is simple. Once RTD left, the rules of the Who world were tossed aside in favour of 'clever' twists and reveals. No fixed points in time. No not being able to interfere in your own past, no more Time War wiping out two entire species. In the RTD era, we got to cry because Rose's father died, and she couldn't save him. Couldn't even try without consequences. Sim's master appeared because he'd left Gallifrey before it fell. The Time War and The Moment couldn't be stopped, but they could be frozen in time. Anything to reverse that would mean the Time War would just pick up where it left off. So now we have a series where no one ever dies, everything that happens can be undone later or just ignored. The scripts are so far-fetched and ridiculous that fan theories seem reasonable. Nothing has consequences, therefore nothing is real, and nothing you watch really matters.

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

Bit harsh, but I can't deny that Moffatt loved his twists a bit much. When they worked though, they were great!

[@rosawolke2788]

na, I hate it more when they put drama in just to be taken serious, this ruined house md for me, I haven’t watched Jodie yet but always enjoyed modern dr who

[@jamesmayle3787]

Attention please: To everyone who’s ever wondered, God is real. The Bible is truth. The key that so many miss is in the inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Specifically forgiveness. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s a mandatory requirement that keeps God at arm’s length until you’ve done it. Specifically forgiving our parents. It’s a secret truth of this universe. Our parents have generally loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing etc. They are supposed to be the easiest people for anyone to forgive. That’s why it was made the bare minimum stander for us. If there’s love in your heart you forgive. It shows so much love and faith to God. You have to genuinely look inside, process your emotions, and forgive from within your heart. Complete forgiveness is an act of love. No rewards, bribes, or apologies necessary. That’s where all this starts, within your heart. God basically doesn’t care until you’ve paid this mustard seed of faith. After you do this he takes notice. He sets you on a path that will lead you to the true knowledge of him. God is love, and he and the more you show love the more you understand God. Please, before you dismiss me, please consider my words. I don’t share this for no reason. You must forgive. It heals your soul. It will lead you to truth. Please, just do. Also, please read at least three books of the Bible, Genesis Mathew and one you chose yourself. It is so important. Pray to Jesus Christ, break down those walls you’ve built up there, and ask for forgiveness for yourself. We all need it. Both giving and receiving. Please. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is the way truth and life. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

@@TheSmart-CasualGamer Moffat was great at writing single episodes, so when he had twists that were episodically contained (god complex, amy's choice, obviously his pre showrunner episodes like doctor dances) they were incredible. But he doesn't know how to run a show over multiple episodes and make it coherent, so when he tries to make a huge, multi episode (hell, even multi series eventually) complex story with twists and turns and etc. it just ends up as a convoluted mess that has good episodes but as a whole is kinda bad

[@citiprivate]

Rory could actually be the Rani, or Professor Urban Chronotis. there are many Random Timelords in the universe. and are more interesting than just The Master.

[@richardparsley2538]

11:55 this absolutely flabbergasted me out of nowhere

[@sarahglover3286]

That was the first time I heard of it, after Rory complains about banging when it's Hitler in the cupboard, I'd never actually heard anyone link it to Melody being half time lord! Never mind the constantly dying!

[@SparkTheKirin]

I still love the scene where Rory heils to knock out that soldier. Best use of his head, that.

[@pokelolmc6826]

"Why is everyone the Doctor?" is what I thought when the Timeless Child gave the Doctor another twenty-something past incarnations on-screen-which we'll never even see stories of, given the first dozen just saw the inside of Tecteun's lab and never said a word. They felt so expendable. It felt like the Doctor just lost their definition and could be literally anyone walking down the street, and you'd never know. There could be MILLIONS of them. We could have an entire universe/planet populated just by Doctors. We could all be the Doctor and have no idea.

[@stuartbarrett755]

It took away from the doctors regenerations because clearly the doctor has an infinite amount. Also makes scenes like Clara asking the time lords to help the 11th doctor with extra regenerations

[@jamesmayle3787]

Attention please: To everyone who’s ever wondered, God is real. The Bible is truth. The key that so many miss is in the inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Specifically forgiveness. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s a mandatory requirement that keeps God at arm’s length until you’ve done it. Specifically forgiving our parents. It’s a secret truth of this universe. Our parents have generally loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing etc. They are supposed to be the easiest people for anyone to forgive. That’s why it was made the bare minimum stander for us. If there’s love in your heart you forgive. It shows so much love and faith to God. You have to genuinely look inside, process your emotions, and forgive from within your heart. Complete forgiveness is an act of love. No rewards, bribes, or apologies necessary. That’s where all this starts, within your heart. God basically doesn’t care until you’ve paid this mustard seed of faith. After you do this he takes notice. He sets you on a path that will lead you to the true knowledge of him. God is love, and he and the more you show love the more you understand God. Please, before you dismiss me, please consider my words. I don’t share this for no reason. You must forgive. It heals your soul. It will lead you to truth. Please, just do. Also, please read at least three books of the Bible, Genesis Mathew and one you chose yourself. It is so important. Pray to Jesus Christ, break down those walls you’ve built up there, and ask for forgiveness for yourself. We all need it. Both giving and receiving. Please. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is the way truth and life. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@shawnamiller191]

I literally just had the same reaction as the doctor when he regenerated as David Tennant

[@_Raven_]

If Rory was The Master, he'd be a half decent character.

[@NichtcrawlerX]

All pocket watches are Chameleon Archs? Mine has just been lying in front of me for years now...

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

If we ever get another episode in the Wild West, then literally EVERYONE will potentially be a Time Lord then!

[@theoncomingstorm7903]

I don't suppose you'd ever be in the mood to shoot down the various Timeless Child related theories like 'Dhawan is actually before Missy', 'Everyone is just lying about TTC because lmao why not' and 'The Fugitive Doctor is from Season 6B'. Because honestly I'm sick of people touting those as purported solutions to problems with the Timeless Child when they don't really solve anything and just make things more convoluted.

[@LibertyBridgeProductions]

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with this. It’s just a bit of fun. Ppl thought he was the master in series 5 or 6, it was a cool fun theory tbf and while I love Rory as a character but I get why it’s fun.

[@HandofOmega]

The only thing that's "wrong" with it is when some fans are SO upset their personal theory didn't happen, that they react in very negative ways about it. I personally know a guy who does this all the time, gets really "married" to his idea of how things "should" go, and has been known to quit watching if that didn't happen...Now, I don't think MOST fans do this, and many (SW fans in particular) get an inaccurate rep for doing so, but those who DO make the rest of us look bad...

[@LibertyBridgeProductions]

@@HandofOmega oh rlly tbf oh well sometimes ppl build stuff in there r hears to much

[@HandofOmega]

I don't know if it's a theory, since it's basically confirmed, but Clara's echoes thru the Doctor's life enables you to play a little game with all the episodes, classic and modern: When watching, try to guess which character is The Clara! Necessarily, this assumes that the Claras *don't* all actually look like her, the ones that did were strictly for viewer convenience, really they can exist in many forms, human and alien (at least one of them was Time Lord, meaning she could have fought in the Time War; maybe SHE was the one who sent the new regeneration cycle to 11!), male and female; all that is required is that they are one of the people who help the Doctor save the day, sometimes at the cost of their lives... So, Duggan could be Clara, for ex. So could Oswin, for that matter, or even the Brigadier? Looking back on the eps (did anything state that Clara ONLY incarnated up to that point in the Doctor's life? That is, could she *still* be doing so, well into their future?), what one-off guest characters could you identify as The Clara?

[@AxelaxiB]

I thought about this and I thought that CAL from silence in the library could have been a Clara.

[@Pir4te47]

An ex-girlfriend first introduced me to Doctor Who with Season 5 when it first aired on TV. She was adamant during Amy's Choice that the antagonist was The Master somehow, rather than the Dream Lord being a manifestation of the Doctor, as it was revealed at the end. Granted, I had no idea who the Master was at that point (I was watching seasons 1-4 whilst 5 was airing, and hadn't gotten to Season 3 by that point), but I feel it's definitely better storytelling to expand and create new characters than constantly just rehash the same old ones.

[@jacobshort5546]

A video going over George Sheard’s “the complete history of the Doctor” video would be interesting

[@omegatired]

The characters being other characters is why some of us write fan fiction .... It's never gonna show up in the show, but we can see if we can fit it in somewhere ... Wheeeeee!

[@davincent98]

Plot twist: The Master reveals that he was Rory, only to admit that he was kidding a second later and mention that (s)he was in Leadworth when Prisoner Zero escaped

[@YesTHATJohnSmith]

'I LIKE it! Man, you're IN the band!" --- attributed to George Washington.

[@owenwildish331]

I had this idea for a Classic Doctor Who & Classic Battlestar Galactica crossover fan-fic a few years ago, which had the 4th Doctor (there's a sort of funny 3rd Doctor cameo), Romana and K-9 encounter the crew of the Galactica, who have mistaken Mondas for Earth (featuring both the Tenth Planet & Invasion type Cybermen). Meanwhile, the Master (strangely in his Dalgado appearance) has teamed up with the Cylons (who turn out to be distant cousins to the Cybermen. Incidentally, I'd love to see the classic Cylons make a guest villain appearance in Doctor Who, outside of Battlestar Galactica), but the Master is, in fact, working for Count Ibis (who is also the Black Guardian)... The Master is pretending to be his previous (Dalgado) self but is actually wearing a mask to hide his crispy form... Also, here's a theory, Missy was never the Master (not saying that to diminish the character or the gender change), but rather, she was the Rani all along and had been brainwashed by the Master into thinking she was him... if so, it could be a way for Missy (and the actress) to return... as the Rani..!

[@Blablabla-ol2tr]

-Master, you killed my Master! -No Master, i am the Master!

[@paristhalheimer]

This has been an observation of mine for a bit. And all I can say that when I see something or hear dialog that breaks canon or gets people looking for connections that aren't there, the answer is always: the writers. Writers like to add dialog or story points for effect regardless of how it totally wrecks the universe. For instance, the Doctor say, "I don't know what the round things do" is BS as we'd seen the Doctor work on the TARDIS from the locations all the time.

[@YesTHATJohnSmith]

Yeah, I remember that bit, & KNEW that was a (feeble) joke. Still, I got a mild chuckle from it (as, I believe, many others did) which (as you realise) was the whole point. 😏

[@Wouldyoukindly4545]

The first few points of "proof" that Rory is the Master. Me: "that is kinda weak, carry on with the roast" The part about the banging in Rory's head, I noticed the similarity immediately, but there was a reasonable explanation for his headache so I just thought it was funny. Rory being the master would explain River being half timelord.... Okay, I think you're convincing me of the wrong thing here. Because that does make a lot more sense than the given explanation. I don't think Rory is the Master, it wraps up that one thing, but opens a lot more questions than it answers. Like "what exactly is his plan?". Though, Rory and Jacobi's Master look fairly similar, maybe.

[@zyswanson7865]

Do you know what would be really cool to add in dr who as a villain? By introducing a new race of species that is about to discover time travel, and making that race become the rival of the time lords.

[@gamerhoagy5998]

Rani from the Sarah Jane Adventures is THE Rani (the one played by Kate O'Mara in Classic Who.)

[@georgemink1813]

Has the Rani returned at all in the Modern series yet? Romana? Susan? What really peeved me off about the Chibnall run is his "Destroy Gallifrey again..." You know, this "Last of the species" trope was a bit tired even when the modern series started. We got a resolution of that polot with the 50th anniversary episode, thru the Capaldi years(Which didn't seem to really build racktion until Bill and Nardol showed up). Harbo, I don't find you irritating at all. I think this vid of yours is kind of refreshing.

[@Redboots]

I don't mind it when people speculate that whichever new character prior to their episode airing is either the rani or the monk because that's typically quashed by the episode itself and those two characters should return in some form. also, I'm not even sure if that's a fob watch on amy and rory's dresser. it looks like it could be an old-fashioned compact mirror, which actually makes more sense for it to be on the dresser instead of shoved in a drawer somewhere like my heirloom pocket watch is lol anyway an explanation for river having time lord dna without the frankly flimsy time vortex explanation, or either theory that the doctor is actually river's father or that rory is the master: back in 2016/17, I saw on a server the fan theory that during the time war the time lords had a 'sanctuary' programme where young time lords were sent off to random planets and fobwatched to keep them safe and some of them ended up on earth. now idk what happens to a fobwatched time lord when they're in human form and then die, whether the fobwatching simply ends, they regenerate, or simply die like a human, but say some of those time lords ended up on earth throughout history. who's to say rory's mum or one of his grandparents, or hell even brian (the 'not wanting to travel' being part of the fobwatch telling him to stay put and therefore easily found when needed) was actually a time lord. god that's a lot of words to say i have no life and care more about dr who lore than my actual english degree

[@YesTHATJohnSmith]

Don't be so hard on yourself. These days, Doctor Who lore 📜 has more practical application. 😉 (Unless, of course, one's a stenographer.)

[@krissybaglin9206]

IF I was in Davis' shoes, I'd definitely bring about the return of Arthur Darvil maybe later into the tenure of Ncuti. As a timelord variant who turned out to be not the master but a young timelord (barely a child) at the academy, who's parents hid him away on earth, knowing their son would be protected by the famed doctor and have a chance at a full life, using the chameleon arch to make him human enough. That's what the fog watch would be, but he definitely wouldn't be the master or the Rani or anything like that, just a timelord refugee. And he makes the sacrifice to return to a life of humanity with Amy, rather than returning to being a timelord, even though the doctor can't hide that they know Rory's inevitable fate. But even then that's a stretch and only if I didn't have any other ideas and Arthur wanted to come back for a bit. I'd love to see more Rory to be fair, I just feel he got the short end of the stick one too many times

[@carolinemcgovern4488]

I like this idea a lot better then the Master Theory- Rory just so happens to be a timelord without being someone we know- he's just your average timelordian bloke.

[@krissybaglin9206]

It's a good way to establish MORE with characters who're kinda written out but deserve better.x

[@The3rdjp1995]

I wouldn't have an issue with fan theories if they weren't so, forgive my rudeness, stupid. I remember people saying that Clara was Jack's daughter because she popped up in different time periods, completely ignoring the facts that Jack doesn't show up in a random time period when he comes back to life AND Jack had kids who are completely mortal. They also said Clara was the child of Tentoo and Rose because she was "timey wimey". Like these theories are not even thought out

[@KayKayon]

I mean, a child of Rose and the meta-crisis doctor ending up being a companion in theory is a good idea. However, there would need to be a complicated explanation of how said child has gotten into the main universe. That means there would be a high chance of the idea being difficult to pull off satisfactorily.

[@chriso5507]

I mean I wouldn't be mad if the Rani DID come back, that would be a great way to shake the constant cycle of Dalek-Cyberman-Master

[@daddywhogames6601]

Wait a minute. My wife gave me an engraved fob watch as a wedding present in 2012. Does that make me the master too?

[@stighemmer]

Not you, but your wife.

[@721ranger]

Totally

[@YesTHATJohnSmith]

I guess it does. {Say, "hi' to Sharon Osbourne for me.} 😉

[@TDM2895]

Everyone is either the rani, master or river and sometimes even omega

[@matheuscastro8791]

The only theory i ever concived and told to my friends at the time, was that the 10th Doctor regeneration into himself was going to count a live. A year later (i started whatching DW in 2012) it turns out i was right

[@scockery]

It turns out that all the Doctors since Sylvester McCoy's were The Master. The Masters those Doctors fought were future Masters disgusted by the time when the Master thought he was the Doctor.

[@YesTHATJohnSmith]

... "Yeah, let's go with that." --- Max Weinstein.

[@jowsok]

Even if Rory WAS the master and rewrote his DNA with the Chameleon Arch, that would then mean that River would be completely human. Or half timelord due to the time vortex as Rory's Time Lord DNA would have been rewritten and broken down into Human DNA.

[@StepfordCuckoo]

This was a lot of fun to watch. 😁 I've been around the edges of various fandoms for a long time, seen a LOT of wild theories myself, and I also delight a bit at taking the piss out of them myself, so I can relate.

[@KelsaRavenlock]

The Rory that guarded the cube was an Auton imprinted with his mind and not the human one hence his longevity. He later was restored when the timeline was changed. I would have went for falling into a crack in time as backup for this theory as the Auton part is explained in show.

[@challengetime1174]

This is the only explanation for River being part time lord as we learn the time lords didnt become what they become through the time vortex but they all came from the doctor except River, if River wasn't born through timelord DNA then how did she become one?

[@truckerbrony2571]

I’ve never heard this one🤔 kinda interesting, if completely improbable

[@andrescarnederes2295]

I think I got used to steven moffat's epic grand plot twists that it made me expect the same thing out of chris chibnall! I remember thinking that dan would turn out to be a secret pre hartnell version of the doctor during 'flux' but ultimately he didn't even get a proper character exit. I kept seeing little details in that particular series that I thought would lead to a great reveal that ended up being nothing. I got so used to little details being extremely important in the moffat era. Tho I've gotta give chibnall credit, he genuinely shocked me with the "ruth" reveal back in series 12 (I wasn't shocked by the master reveal because it was spoiled for me before I watched spyfall)! All in all, I've learned to just accept new characters instead of expecting them to end up being an old villain or a familiar face. If the show keeps bringing back legendary villains (or characters in general) how can it make new ones that will be iconic for future generations? Either way, I appreciate that chris chibnall at least tried to bring in new villains during series 11, even if (imho) it was kind of underwhelming. Great video!

[@fernandogarajalde4066]

It would be cool to follow up “Power of The Doctor” with “Power of The Master”. Any excuse for the BBC and RTD2 to upgrade their CGI/SFX budget. Maybe Amy and Rory can introduce their child as a Doctor variant? 😇

[@seankkg]

I had a random idea that Clara was the Master after Simms goes into the portal, gets split into all the different Claras, and later regenerated into Missy and the further I got into it the more plausible it sounded and ended up better than Clara's actual story. It's a fun exercise in writing.

[@timrob12]

"Fans are thinking that Susan might someday come back in another regeneration." Let me make one thing very clear: NOT as long as Carole Ann Ford is alive. If you have the real Susan, get the real Susan. Either Carole Ann Ford or Claudia Grant from An Adventure in Space and Time. This are the only two people I accept to take on the role.

[@eshbena]

That's like saying that 'As long as Tom Baker is alive, there can be no other Doctor'. It's ridiculous. Susan is a Time Lord. The fact that she hasn't shown up in a new regeneration is actually really weird.

[@timrob12]

@@eshbena I'm open to a new regeneration, but at least bring in Carole Ann Ford for the transition.

[@YesTHATJohnSmith]

Gentlepersons, I believe that BOTH your viewpoints have merit.

[@timrob12]

@@YesTHATJohnSmith Okay, thanks.

[@YesTHATJohnSmith]

@@timrob12 Y'welcome. (Not that you needed my approval, in any case.) 🙂 Having said that--- I would ALSO very much enjoy Mz. Ford to return.

[@gamerhoagy5998]

In that picture of the Masters at 1.44, there are three that I don't recognise as the Master. The one at bottom right I'm guessing is the young Master that might have been in a clip showing the Master's history (I've not seen all of NuWho). The bald guy centre left, no idea who he is. And didn't know that Mark Gatiss had played the Master (though he was connected with him in The Lazarus Experiment....and when I saw that episode, I just somehow KNEW that The Master was involved). But...where is Jonathon Pryce! He was a brilliant Master.

[@ShaunakDesaiPiano]

I totally agree that Rory is not the Master. Absolutely. But the fact that Amy has known him all her life does not imply that Rory is not a chameleon-arch-human, since we know from Derek Jacobi’s Master that the Master, upon using the chameleon arch, had turned himself into a human child, so it suggests that a Time Lord could turn themselves into any incarnation they like as a human? I don’t know.

[@Kimbie]

My new ironic favorite is bringing this theory back after the Toymaker """conveniently""" didn't mention Rory (only amy) in his puppet-synopsis (and having the master inside his gold tooth). The idea that Moffat was ever planning this reveal over a decade ago is already such a crack-pot theory, but that *RTD* would bring Rory-is-the-Master back like 12 years after the character's last appearance (which I did just see someone talk about) is so beyond this world I can't help but enjoy it a little.

[@docAvid314]

You know, I was with you, including the ranty bits, right up until you warned us all of the dire fate that enjoying fan theories might make us turn into a Doctor Who show runner who revitalized the show in a way that was so good, so grounded in the show's history, so transformative and creative, that RTD even wrote based on it, and was convinced to come back. Welp, back to the fan theories, then.

[@paristhalheimer]

The idea that everyone is connected or is some return of a famous character gets old. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

[@JeffEshom42]

I like to think that the 12 and 13th Doctors are in the alternate universe where 10 and Rose were. The "Timeless child" was just an abducted Time Lord kid and sent through to that Universe to create Time Lords there-and allow an invasion. Nothing in 13 is canon. Helps me sleep.

[@eliphas_vlka]

My best theory: theres no humanity, all humans are different incarnations of the master

[@lordbuss]

The reason the theory is so weird is that it was about Moffat's seasons, Moffat's favorite thing to do is imply that clever things are happening in the background, introduce questions that are not really answered, and inspire wild speculations about everything. Because Moffat's style is that one that COULD treat small inconsequential things as twists. Maybe it's not strictly speaking his FAULT, but it's the inevitable result of his writing (the same thing happened in Sherlock). 6:14 Well, you know, there is another obvious reason for why Amy's daughter could be half Timelord...

[@penguinabroad]

If Rory is the master this would be the longest slow burn storyline of all time. You've convinced me and I cannot wait for this reveal

[@JamesA1102]

Great video. I happen to dislike most "fan theories" myself. I find they are not well thought out and dismiss whatever doesn't fit the particular theory. And if fans are so clever, why aren't they writing their own shows?

[@peterthompson1989]

Some of the theories are interesting but sometimes people believe them so much that they see things that just aren't there. I remember the trailer for series 5 where people could apparently see Omega and anyone who said they didn't see it was called out as blind and stupid. There's a commenter on KZbin that connects the snowmen to Silver Nemesis and seems to think there's an arch going from the 7th doctor to now and it's just luscious. The one theory that does interest me if a bit stupid is the one where wilf is a timelord. His full name is something like timelordwtf😂 but I always thought it was strange that he saw the woman who was probably the doctors mother and he does mention he missed the war which could be the world war but the time war. It does show how we can see patterns that probably just ain't there

[@spluff5]

This theory is literally: Maybe the real Master is the friends we made along the way

[@lp-xl9ld]

This is something which pops up in other places; I can't say that its presence in the Whoniverse is any better or worse than any other one. But it all seems to hinge on making the following assumptions--which may not always be valid: 1. There are no such things as coincidences. 2. Everything interconnects because (re-read #1). 3. Nothing happens for no reason. 4. It is therefore up to me to see where the lines are. 5. This sort of thing HAS happened before (true, but does it mean it HAS to happen all the time?). 6. Therefore...fill in the blank.

[@jacobd1984]

No no, “Everyone is The Master” was way back in 2009.