Groove pitch is important because it helps fit more music on a record. This video teaches how it's done, and what determines the space between the grooves.
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@fittobetiedyed53154 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation Craig. I love this technical stuff. Listening to a record will never be the same for me after this. Thanks for doing this.
@PirateNovelist4 жыл бұрын
Happy to see you back! Really enjoyed this video!
@bogdanpropeck4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the time you spend making your videos, it's always a pleasure to watch !
@HDaudioEnhance4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Craig! Excellent video ;)
@metalmogul4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating video. Thanks for this.
@Badassvidsz4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video dear Craig i've learned something very interesting today also as an analog sound lover i love LPs and cassettes i'll be waitting for your next video about the tape biasing of course i'm a subscriber of your lovely channel so i will receive the notification cheers :-)
@HifiundMusik4 жыл бұрын
Happy you’re back. Hey Craig, new passive Speakers? Tell us about it. Good Video!!
@Theactivepsychos3 ай бұрын
Just received some lathe cut vinyl of our new single and when the breakdown happens and the fuzz and organ climax two of the grooves are so close together! This has resulted in some of the discs having skipping and sticking issues. So gutted. Majority are fine but 10% have a visible merging of the groove areas. Searched on KZbin and this came up so will forward it to my cutting engineer.
@2574mcu4 жыл бұрын
I used to buy albums and record them on reel to reel, then store the albums away. That's probably why almost all of my albums are near mint. I've been doing that since the late 60s. In the 80s, I recorded them on both cassette and reel to reel tape. I used the cassettes for the car.
@robfriedrich28222 жыл бұрын
Another possible way was to buy two copies and to store one of them. Sometimes less expensive, than the reel to reel tape.
@ford15464 жыл бұрын
very interesting. Good video. I learned something new.
@robfriedrich28222 жыл бұрын
They introduced variable grade in the time, where normal groove 78 rpm and micro groove vinyl records existed together. A 12" shellac with classic music could be extended from 4 ½ minutes to 8 or 9. About micro groove and pop music, it hasn't this dramatic effect, but it could make it possible to get 7 minutes from a 45 rpm 7" record and up to 25 minutes from a 12" record with 33 rpm. The 20 hits compilations were recorded with less bass (nothing below 80 Hz) and less level, so it was 30 to 40 minutes per side. The opposite of this is the maxi single or super sound single, 45 rpm on a 12", maximum length about 7 or 8 minutes.
@jameshogg114 жыл бұрын
Hi Craig, good to see you on the Tube again! You mentioned in a previous video that you'd be doing a video on Inner Groove Distortion. Do you know when that's going to drop?
@olledahlquist37844 жыл бұрын
Hi Craig, I find your videos very interesting. In a previous video you talked about Supertramp and the grooves. I can't find that video, but hope you can tell me where to find it. Keep up the good work!
@jdsgotninelives4 жыл бұрын
Hey! Your back! Good to see and hear and thanks for another fascinating journey into the grooves :-)
@domeniquexander_4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Love your Videos. Happy to see new stuff. Cheers, Domenique Xander
@jeenkzk59194 жыл бұрын
I love looking at this stuff! It still amazes me how literal vibrations from a tiny piece of metal puts out great sound! Is it true that a 12 inch 45 RPM is better audio quality than a 33 1/3 album version? Something about wider grooves but wasn’t sure if that was an urban legend
@bat21374 жыл бұрын
Like everything if done properly yes a 12 inch 45 ep is usually better sound quality.
@9mmmike6424 жыл бұрын
Check out Mobile Fidelity Labs 45rpm albums.
@VinylTV334 жыл бұрын
Because the vibrations can be spread apart at higher speed (45), it's easier to track those records, especially on a cheaper stylus. It's like with tape... Faster is usually better because the information is not so crammed together.
@jeenkzk59194 жыл бұрын
Vinyl TV I suppose the same idea as digital only physical space rather than digital. The more physical space used, the higher of quality
@robfriedrich28222 жыл бұрын
13:14 variable grade was always automatically. It was an analog computer, what set the groove pitch.
@Edubarca464 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanations, congratulations. We, vinyl lovers like very much all your videos. Please don't space them so much!! By the way, I have read that there are environmental problems due to the materials used to make vinyls. What is the truth about this?
@robfriedrich28222 жыл бұрын
There was a recording machine with a groove pitch knob, what also changed the level meter, lowered down the red field.
@futureshock74254 жыл бұрын
On a few Rush reissues they slapped an etching on Side D of a 2 LP set instead of spacing things out more
@RichGoyetteMusic4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Looking forward to the tape bias video. Cheers.
@nickh.47224 жыл бұрын
great explanation of a very interesting topic, brilliant! thanks!
@MFramy4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, I'm glad I found your channel :)
@mosinatic20114 жыл бұрын
How do the engineers know they will have enough room to fit àll the songs they want to go on a record ?
@hoodedtoe22804 жыл бұрын
Well what can I say but..... Groovy :)
@matthewschottel4 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work! Great video!
@manolokonosko28683 жыл бұрын
Making a mixtape for someone was a labor of love.
@TheVinylGuru4 жыл бұрын
Craig! I love ya! Been watching your channel when you had like 1k... Groove spacing is SO important. Great channel, on it now!
@FoolFlixTV4 жыл бұрын
Good to see you again, Craig!
@yukonsukon2 жыл бұрын
That's so cool. Thanks.
@UnderTheNeedle4 жыл бұрын
Wish we lived closer! Back in the day your videos helped me get started brewing beer.... and now all this great vinyl stuff! Awesome, brother! Be well!, Best, Jersey Joey
@7JANEWAY4 жыл бұрын
Another good one, Craig!!! Don't stay away so long next time, OK???!!!
@olebjrklund86484 жыл бұрын
Nice and very informative video again Craig, nice work :) Cool filming with the microsope that was cool stuff to see.... :) Keep up the good work and brew on. Regards to you and your family. 17.
@ScottysBackYardBBQ4 жыл бұрын
hello sir. thanks to you.i now have 3 mr beer kits going lol
@proto1proto254 жыл бұрын
Hey Craig, I wanted to ask your thoughts on the Nagaoka mp 110 cartridge. I have it on a Fluance RT82. When playing a record I get alot of SHHH sounds sometimes, I tried adjusting the antiskate and made sure the cartridge is aligned and tracking at 1.8 grams?
@blackmore10304 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you! I will check my SOAD records for variations in groove spacing :) (for the ones who don't know: their songs include lots of abrupt switches in volume and tempo)
@beetleworx4 жыл бұрын
So well done ... especially at 11:30 min. ! Great !!! Greatings from Germany
@FirstDonkie4 жыл бұрын
I just discovered this channel and it's great! I'm catching up on your videos, so I'm burning up quite some time now. It lead me to checking my turntables again. Can you give us your thought on pucks and mats? I bought a perspex mat and some people say it makes a world of difference. But I find it's difficult to hear any differences. And pucks: what's the effect on the sound and the turntable? Does it generate extra wear? To me it seems a lot like driving around with a few bricks in your car. That's not helpful for the car (except maybe for some types with very bad handling in the olden days), so is it for your TT? And does this compensate for the gain in sound quality? Please let us know. Thank you.
@Neuromancer233 жыл бұрын
Super interesting! I was actually trying to find out why some of my tekno records (the k is not a typo; it's a genre I'd describe as psychedelic gabber/hardcore) have a large groove distance within a song. I'm talking a cm of space, within a track. I stumbled on your video instead. I later found out the empty space is on a break in the track every time. My theory is that it is a visual cue for DJ's to know where the breaks are!
@jorgealfonso88714 жыл бұрын
Jorge from Miami good new videos, it was already missed, I finally bought a turntable fluance, rt80, and I bought a used 2mred orthophon cartridge, little use but used, so it does not bring manual, it would help me to be guided by the trakin force of the 2m red cartridge!, thank you very much and God bless you!
@harshglare50173 жыл бұрын
Amazing discussion on how to find the loud passages on a record! Thank you, this will come in handy when I transfer my records to digital..
@paulaj28294 жыл бұрын
good to see you back Man.. & yet again lots of good information.. i also have the Microscope which you have & also bought the Same stand as a little present for myself which i find is very good for learning about this stuff.. keep it up Craig
@tzahy49684 жыл бұрын
very good video! we love and admire you! I start listening rush because of you!
@robetclo25164 жыл бұрын
Just to set the record straight, 12 inches singles have a wider grooves than LP's and the disc was cut at with a louder volume and the dynamic range is increased as well. The spacing of some 12 inches singles have also decreased a lot Columbia Records are the first to have done it and with good results with the groove wider but closer. Let's Groove of Earth Wind and Fire was one that I got and what is good is that the song is limited to the outer edges. As you know the closer you get to the center of the record the closer are the vibrations of the groove and with a spherical stylus there was a lot of distortion at the end of the record and none at all with eleptical or fine eleptical ones and very good results with Shibata. So concentrating the song to the outer edge elimated the distortion as most DJ's use spherical stylus.
@mariodesmo4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Looking forward to the tape bias video!
@kissvinyltv97614 жыл бұрын
Man! The audio on this channel is AMAZING! Great Mic!
@wilcalint4 жыл бұрын
I have a nice collection of Direct to Disc Discs. So they must have set the “pitch” to a constant across the entire disc? They definitely have less play time on them.
@aznashwan4 жыл бұрын
Really interesting vid (as always), now you got me really curious on the tape type comparison, can’t wait for it!
@shaun91074 жыл бұрын
The scope well be good for lookking at he groove that makes the stylus jump across on LPs . I did this on singles back in the day using a dart to open the groove and it worked .
@andypomeroy74474 жыл бұрын
Well done! I look forward to your shows. Thank you!
@ILikeStyx4 жыл бұрын
Was the song under the microscope Xanadu?
@TheNaboen4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant stuff, Craig!
@diogenescaruaru4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Nice to see you again :)
@BetterISupposeYeah4 жыл бұрын
great info.
@debrebeuf89594 жыл бұрын
ya boy
@olfart624 жыл бұрын
This was a very interesting video because I learned years ago that albums are cut 1-5 now I'm going to try like heck to explain this a 1 was for say 12-15 min per side a no 2 cut was 15-17 min. per side a 3 was 17-20 min. a 4 was 20-23 min per side a 5 was 23- whatever because I've seen some albums have OVER 30 MIN PER SIDE which is when they are so tightly put together for example Led Zeppelin's The Song Remains The Same was cut at a 5 because sides 2,3,4 were over 25 min. per side now if I'm wrong on this process Craig let me know
@josephrobertmah34384 жыл бұрын
Good point! In the late 80’s and early 90’s, when compact discs ruled the earth, albums were getting longer and longer and fewer people were buying vinyl record albums because of the novelty of CD’s. It was also a self-fulfilling prophecy because those longer albums from that period sounded horrendous! The Cure - Disintegration, Def Leppard - Hysteria, and Tom Cochrane - Mad Mad World were all long LP’s in excess of an hour and they sounded terrible on vinyl. Of course, they are highly collectible now but thankfully reissued on two records.
@KenjiUmino4 жыл бұрын
@@josephrobertmah3438 I assume that terrible sound was also because record labels decided to cheap out and release an album on a single LP even though it would have required a double LP release to retain an acceptable sound quality. ... and because flippin records around is so 1970's - CeeDees can fit a whole album on one disk too. ;)