Why is Starship Important? | Starship Series Intro

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In this series we will analyze important topics regarding SpaceX's next launch vehicle, Starship. This series intro explores how starship was born, what makes starship different than other rockets, and what we can reasonably expect from Starship near term to help us build a foundation of knowledge we can use in future analysis.
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Timeline:
0:00 - Intro
1:47 - Purpose
2:54 - History
7:24 - What Makes Starship Special?
13:20 - Too Good to be True?
16:23 - Launch Cost
23:51 - Payload
27:51 - Wrap Up

[@historicallyaccurate6635]

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[@gamersheheryar8770]

@Dylanrules22 Lol !!!!!

[@mortallychallenged]

It's been hard to explain to someone who doesn't know anything about spaceflight about the importance of starship. I think this video does a really good job as an introduction, combined with the other wonderful content you've posted. Really looking forward to more!

[@MrWaldorfian]

Its also hard to explain to naysayers who don't get that Falcon and Dragon will be obsolete once Starship is operational. They can't seem to grasp that total reusability means actual lower mission costs. This video is a very good explainer for that.

[@Iamrich00]

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[@Danuxsy]

@@MrWaldorfian it is even harder to explain that Starship is not operational whatsoever.

[@SomeoneNamedTygget]

Great rundown. An interesting side effect of SpaceX's ridiculous speed and constant updates of the design is that most of the info out there on Starship is pretty outdated, so it's good to have a refresher every now and then. A lot of people get really annoyed at people treating Starship like it'll be god's gift to rocketry, but it really isn't an exaggeration to think that it'll signal a fundamental shift in how we access space.

[@raifikarj6698]

Yeah example as From interview of everyday astronout Space X will test many different engine configuration and currently testing 29 engine not 33 engine.

[@jagaszepielak2601]

Fack of hater 💩

[@torbenjensen189]

Starship would be awesome if it works the way Elon claims. Problem is its not build yet, and that its highly unlikely it can work as Elon has claimed.

[@espenha]

@@torbenjensen189 There are no showstoppers as far as I can see. Though it will likely take more time than what Musk is hoping.

[@RawandCookedVegan]

@@espenha The fact that the whole thing is reusable and that it can carry the amount of payload that it does is pretty impressive. I don't know how you define showstopper but these developments are certainly new to the space industry.

[@jacobwiens659]

BO isn’t building New Glenn to “Better Compete,” New Glenn is there entry into the market. I wish people would stop treating BO like an established, successful space company when they’re not.

[@snuffeldjuret]

@@janos1945 but at the same time, they are not.

[@ReiseLukas]

@@janos1945 They haven't even sent a cockroach to orbit, and you call them successful?

[@sadiqahmed4143]

@@janos1945 that goes to virgin galactic

[@shuryimaziz3426]

@@janos1945 suborbital hops don't count as space

[@mirien7277]

Counterpoint: Competing is better competition than not competing. :)

[@rogerfreeman6787]

How dare you release this during the Starship stacking livestream?

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LoL

[@sadiqahmed4143]

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[@osirisapex7483]

This is the first time I’ve ever heard of “Yenisei” and “921,” wow, I didn’t know so many super heavy lift vehicles were in development!

[@topsecret1837]

Oh yeah. Even more interestingly, an Angara-based SHLV I’ve heard was being developed, alongside a vehicle borrowing much from Energia. But I’m guessing the Yenisei is related to Angara where I recalled hearing that from. Even still, there were attempts a few decades ago at shuttle derived SHLVs which were never put into production, despite not needing to have crew on board. For once, an American company is straightening out the backwards inside out style space politics in the United States, and I’m somewhat thankful!

[@Goulmy86]

That's because Chinese government isn't advertising like SpaceX or Blue Org

[@piotrd.4850]

Yeah, in slide/foil/ppt-driven-development. Energya flew.

[@user-lv7ph7hs7l]

The Russiams have at least 100 rockets "in development" at any given time.

[@rhover]

There's additional info at Wikipedia, and many links from this article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_heavy-lift_launch_vehicle

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[@michaelvigil5321]

Russians should have just given him the missile. They accidentally made SpaceX and their own rocket development's demise when they didn't sell it.

[@shreysharma726]

lmao yeah

[@thestudentofficial5483]

Nah, we're living in a better timeline. Sometimes somebody has to lose so that the entirety can win.

[@michaelvigil5321]

@@thestudentofficial5483 well I'm talking about the Russian's interests.

[@mikerosoft8661]

Russia:- *rejects giving missile to musk Musk:- fine I'll do it myself

[@mordecaisackett9421]

Serendipity works in mysterious ways LOL

[@regolith1350]

We're so used to the law of diminishing returns for payloads to more distant destinations. It's always been Rocket ABC can launch X tons to LEO, 1/2X to GTO, 1/4X to LLO, 1/8 to Lunar surface, etc. We have never seen "Rocket ABC can launch 100 tons to ANYWHERE." Orbital refueling makes that possible, and fully reusable rockets make orbital refueling possible (economically viable).

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I already know this video is going to be amazing and I haven’t even finished the intro!

[@lolfreakwaca4328]

Same

[@morteza1024]

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[@rogerfreeman6787]

Blue Organ is making New Glenn!? I keep up with this stuff pretty closely, and I didn't know that. I guess one fairing is a start.

[@Evangq]

"Making"

[@Garryck-1]

A *very* slow start. They've been working for 20 years, and they still don't have an engine, they still don't have a rocket, and they still haven't orbited. Maybe they should change their logo to a snail.

[@erideimos1207]

I guess that second fairing is proving a real bitch. At least BO won't have to test anything: In the millions of renderings flown so far, New Glenn has a perfect flight record.

[@az09letters92]

@@Garryck-1 Very offensive for snails!

[@FallSkyX]

@@Garryck-1 they do have engines I think. Isn't the engines are the same used on ULA Vulcan?

[@SomeBoredGuy69]

I am a novice when it comes to this subject. I started taking interest due to recommendations from KZbin for the live test flights that have taken place over the past year. I just finished watching Part 1 and 2 of Everyday Astronaut interview with Elon. I was left with questions about this program. You answered so many of those questions. A big THANKYOU for making this video!

[@Apogeespace]

I’m glad I could help! I definitely recommend checking out Everyday Astronauts other starship video. He has good educational videos, the Elon interview is much more high level than his videos. Thanks for watching!

[@spencerjensen1993]

Welcome to team space! :)

[@erichoberg3502]

I'd watch Common Sense Skeptics on Starship as well. Very interesting perspective. When they say "it can refuel in space"...have they actually done it. There's a lot of talk of what it can do without actually doing it as yet. So, it's good to look at a different perspective.

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[@rogerfreeman6787]

And this is just the intro to the series!

[@adriank8792]

What a great day to get even more hyped about this amazing rocket. First full SS+SH stack, and now this

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Amazing job! Your research and presentation makes it very enjoyable to watch. Keep it up!

[@ClearAlera]

Wow, this was great. I've been following starship development closely for a long time now, and you still dropped some history that was new to me. Thanks!

[@eccentricity23]

Excellent breakdown. I can't wait to see future episodes!

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[@Fhensleytx]

Great job... Looking forward to the next in this series!

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[@Voyager_AU]

Great intro. Thanks for the details and visual references.

[@topsecret1837]

Elon has said today that they have plans to stretch the already 120m tall 2-stage stack of starship, alongside a payload upgrade to 150 tons and an expendable tonnage of 250 tons. As of today, the first Starship stack was completed at about 07:55 EDT, paving the way to tank tests toward a launch within the month.

[@michaelsmith2723]

Elon has always said gen 2 is 18 meters, which means you have to stretch it as well. Building methods are the same and it is supper scalable.

[@michaelsmith2723]

18 meters needs a bigger, more powerful engine. Is Raptor scalable as well?

[@espenha]

@@michaelsmith2723 Raptor was originally intended to be a larger engine, so it should be possible to scale it up. But you don't need a more powerful engine to increase the diameter of the rocket. Going for an 18 meter diameter, 120 meter high Starhip would really only mean having to increase the number of Raptors from 33 to around 132. Stretching the Starship however might require more powerful engines, though. As this doesn't increase the area under the rocket for more engines.

[@snuffeldjuret]

@@michaelsmith2723 I don't think they will go for the 18 m wide one. I recall Elon tweeting about how it is increasingly difficult the bigger you get, even mentioning that 9 m might have been too big. Stretching the length comes as a consequence of improving the rocket, which changes certain equations making a taller one more efficient.

[@sadiqahmed4143]

@@espenha 132 😀😀 lol I just exploded while reading that

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Excellent stuff - as always. This should be the the start of the standard reference work for Starship.

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Everyday astronaut??

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[@vinumcopia9850]

ON the cost breakdown, I think it would be important to include a line item for the amortized cost of the reusable components; based on the expected life-cycle of said component. For example, 10% of the cost of the Flacon 9 first stage construction based on an approximate life cycle of 10 flights.

[@christoferfinnietapper3288]

To make it a fair comparison you would have to factor in the infrastructure needed to operate the rocket, here I think the cost goes up dramatically. Stage 0 is probably the most costly part of starship.

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[@phillipneiswanger5198]

You forgot the nitrogen used in cold gas thrusters on both stages of Falcon 9. Not as expensive as helium, but still an expense.

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[@blaineallen]

This is great! Would you share the script for this? There’s so much info that you state very concisely. Either way thank you for helping make the significance of Starship so attainable.

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This is a great video!

[@Round_Slinger]

SpaceX has been landing and reusing boosters for years now. Clearly most competitors don't want to adapt, just complain when SpaceX wins contracts and customers. Once Starship is ready, it'll be even worse for these other companies that have little or nothing in the works to compete with it, as they don't even have something to compete with Falcon 9.

[@yawnyawn6038]

It’s not that they don’t want to , they don’t have the capital

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@@yawnyawn6038 ULA is a combo of Boeing and Lockheed, they got plenty of capital. Ariannespace got more than 4 billion dollars for Arianne 6 development. Capital is not the issue, they didn´t want to take risks in case it won´t work.

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