why jem carstairs deserved better

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@marcella3354
@marcella3354 6 жыл бұрын
jem carstairs is the love of my life
@manishashinde5780
@manishashinde5780 4 жыл бұрын
omg!!! me too! I am in love with JEM CARSTAIRS!❤❤
@taylorhagen3916
@taylorhagen3916 3 жыл бұрын
No he is mine
@saisevithaaaura5130
@saisevithaaaura5130 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Nobody at all: Not even the Clave: Jem: *ships his parabatai and his fiancee*
@regularliz
@regularliz 5 жыл бұрын
Something I also noticed when I reread the series was that Cassandra Clare wrote in both Will's and Tessa's perspectives a lot, and by a lot I mean constantly throughout the entire series, but she only writes in Jem's perspective a few times. I noticed that and I honestly got really pissed off. And it was, like you said, like she was using Jem as an obstacle to get between Will and Tessa.
@sodapopp4367
@sodapopp4367 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm saying! CC says that she tried to write the love triangle equally, but you can't have Tessa's love for both boys come off as equal when Jem is so clearly written secondary to Will.
@nataliabaszczyk2387
@nataliabaszczyk2387 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly do not think that Tessa didn’t love Jem. I think she did. The love was just different, cause the boys are so different! I think that if Will were the one to propose to Tessa after she already had a kiss with Jem (and almost sex too...) she would feel the same way. She’d be constantly thinking about how much she loves Jem too and she’d be just as torn apart. And also she didn’t have anyone for years after Will’s death and then when Jem became human again she married him almost right away. After 130 years of not being together and of him not really being himself. If she didn’t truly love him she would lose any feelings that she ever had towards him after this much time. And yet she didn’t. To me it proves that she loved Jem just as much as she loved Will. It’s just that with Will it was passionate, cause Will was energetic and all-over-the-place kind of person. And Jem was calm and steady, so their love was calm and steady as well. That’s how I see it.
@evalikeayva6567
@evalikeayva6567 5 жыл бұрын
i think that's a really good point, i hadn't considered that - if that's how the author intended it, it would make a lot of sense. and yeah, when you put it like that jem is definitely the secret favourite. anyway, thank u for ur thoughtful comment!!
@奇妙-y2y
@奇妙-y2y 3 жыл бұрын
True but we needed more of Jems perspectives.
@pottergirl9105
@pottergirl9105 6 жыл бұрын
This is exactly how I feel. I remember reading TID and just continually thinking to myself, "Just pick, Tessa. Don't postpone their heartbreak. Pick so that they can move on and Will and Jem can be best buddies again." I truly love Jem though because through it all, he just stayed so kind and caring. In the end, Will and Jem always put their parabatai's happiness before theirs. And that's what I love most about the series. They stayed parabatai until the end.
@michelledobrowolski3398
@michelledobrowolski3398 6 жыл бұрын
This is how people generally see people with disabilities they think we're not human beings and just things they can use this is why and how I connected with Jem the most
@hnas84
@hnas84 5 жыл бұрын
I was honestly getting ready to fight but u RIGHT😂cassandra clare did Jem dirty, Tessa clearly preferred Will over Jem--she never thought about Jem when she was Will whereas all she thought about was Will when she was with Jem
@kabu_jpeg
@kabu_jpeg 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god truer words have never been spoken
@johannahaas3819
@johannahaas3819 4 жыл бұрын
The reason Tessa didn’t end her engagement after one day is because Will would not have forgiven her for breaking Jem‘s heart . She even asked Will if she should do it !
@patriciasantiago5430
@patriciasantiago5430 4 жыл бұрын
www.google.com/amp/s/idris.com.br/livros/shadowhunters-chronicles/as-pecas-infernais/2015/01/12/cassandra-clare-responde-questao-de-tessa-e-jem/amp/
@sodapopp4367
@sodapopp4367 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly 😂 Even if Tessa did love both boys equally (which it's canon that she did), it still seemed like she would have preferred to have been with Will. She liked Will from the jump, and continued to like him even after he basically called her a whore. Whenever she kisses Jem, she thinks of Will, but when she kisses Will, and sleeps with him the day Jem dies, she doesn't think of Jem. When Jem proposed to her she thinks of Will, but when Will proposes to her she doesn't think of Jem (even though they had been engaged not too long ago). She never seemed to mourn the loss of her romantic relationship with Jem, nor did she ever seem to long to be with him. We never caught her daydreaming about him like she did Will, and when she did it was mostly her saying, "I love him and I don't want to hurt him." It rarely ever seemed like she was with Jem because she wanted to be. I know people love this love triangle and CC swears that she tried to write it equally, but the writing is biased towards Will, and Jem is clearly written as a character secondary to Will, which makes the love seem unequal.
@fireangeldragon4588
@fireangeldragon4588 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of this. I actually felt like I knew quite a bit about Jem because he was so open and honest, and I also admire how forgiving and selfless and hard to anger he was. It's what I have been striving to be myself, which is part of what really lets me connect with and admire Jem in ways I don't admire many characters, (Captain America/Steve Rogers from Marvel is one of the very few others who comes to mind when I think about these traits that I admire the most because they seem so few and far between. Everyone wants the angsting bad boy, a trope I'm extremely tired of, rather than someone who is sweet and kind), But, God, YES, Jem Carstairs deserved so much better than his treatment in this series, particularly Clockwork Princess! I will say, it's one of the few love triangles that ended in a way where everyone gets to be happy, but sometimes, it does make me angry because of everyone's treatment of Jem. Tessa was pretty much always comparing Jem to Will whenever she was with him, and even if it was just thoughts about Will because of her feelings for him and surprise that she had feelings for Jem, too, it's like, "come on, Tessa, stop playing with Jem's feelings when it's obvious you're much more into Will". It always did seem like Tessa was keeping Jem in her backpocket, and then when Will was available, while she did care about Jem, she wished she could be with Will instead. Here Jem is completely devoted to her and here she is thinking about Will. If you read An Offering of Moonlight, which is their first kiss from Jem's perspective, you see into his head just how much he loves and wants her, but in Tessa's head, she's still thinking about Will. She was constantly two-timing these two boys. Exclusive or not, it upsets me when a woman, (or a man), goes and kisses one person and then kisses another and then goes back to the first and so on and so on. A similar thing happened in the Mortal Instruments, (spoilers if you haven't read all of those), with Simon, Isabelle, and Maia. Simon was dating Isabelle, but knew she was seeing other people at the same time because they weren't exclusive, and then when he was hanging out with Maia, she ended up kissing him and they started up a thing, too. But the difference is, when Isabelle and Maia find out, they get furious with Simon for it, and rightly so, though it was a little hypocritical on Izzy's part considering she was dating other people, too. She justified it as it's because Simon doesn't know the people she's also been seeing and she does know Maia, (which I thought was a stupid justification, but she still did it). Well, if Cassandra Clare thinks that's wrong, then isn't it wrong for Tessa to be going back and forth between two parabatai? Simon is in the doghouse with Maia and Isabelle for quite a while because he liked both of them and didn't know how to break it off with one of them, but Tessa doesn't get any amount of criticism from the two boys because of her actions. One of the things that really upset me in the Jem/Tessa/Will love triangle, though, was the way Tessa and Will, an hour after Jem died, fall into bed together. It's attempted to be justified because they thought they were going to die, but what they should have been doing was trying to find a way to escape or making a plan to fight back in the morning, not having sex when Tessa's fiance and Will's parabatai just died, even if Jem gave them his blessing. It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth and made me lose respect for Will and Tessa, even if I still like the two of them. I just don't like them as much as I used to because of that. A lot of people try to rip into Jem because he wanted to meet with Tessa once a year, saying it was wrong how they hid it from Will, but Cassandra Clare confirmed on her site that Will knew all about it and was fine with it. He never felt betrayed by Jem and Tessa meeting up once a year to talk for an hour and have platonic interactions and that Jem and Tessa's interactions were always platonic and they never betrayed Will. She also said the only reason Will didn't go with them was because Silent Brothers have to sever all ties with the Shadowhunters, but Jem tells Tessa to tell no one because Silent Brothers are supposed to be detached from people and she technically has Nephilim blood, so people might try to stop them. No one didn't include Will, though. He knew. Another thing that always bothered me about everyone's treatment of Jem is that people tend not to consider his feelings until it's too late. Everyone assumes that Jem will never get angry or be affected negatively by something. When Will goes to the opium den in Clockwork Prince, no one has ANY idea how that is going to affect Jem. Not Will, not Tessa, not Charlotte, no one! Of course that's going to affect him negatively, of course he is going to be upset and feel like Will just slapped him in the face. And Will apologizes later for it, saying he didn't realize that he was making a mockery of Jem's illness, so Jem forgives him, and I forgave him, but it just shows something about Jem: he always is there for everyone else and does his best to notice and care for their feelings, but hardly anyone seems to do the same for him. Everyone--both characters and readers--get caught up in the bright shining star that is Will, (those are Casasndra Clare's words about Will being the one who burns bright and is quick to catch attention), but oftentimes overlook Jem because he's always been so stable despite the horrors of his past that they don't realize that sometimes, something is going to be too much, and that made me extremely angry with how the other characters treated Jem. Also, I remember something about how Will was compared to a bright burning star and Jem to a steady, unwavering flame, and that really saddened me, because in Jem's POV of his first meeting with Tessa, he had been thinking about romantic love right before she came in, and he thought, "For that was what love was, wasn't it--to burn bright in someone else's eyes?" Obviously, Jem never was that to Tessa, so he deserves much better than her. He derserves someone who loves him fully and completely, not in a might as well hook up with him because Will isn't available and I guess I do care about him, just not as much as Will kind of way.
@evalikeayva6567
@evalikeayva6567 5 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this comment!!! you brought up a lot of well thought out, articulate points that i completely agree with - i also wish that we would romanticising genuine, kind men and not get so hung up on the 'bad boy' trope. i never picked up on the thing about love and fire and jem's pov that you mentioned, which makes this whole thing even more upsetting. maybe cassandra clare should have considered turning jem's storyline into one about unrequited love rather than trying to force an unbalanced love triangle. anyway, thank you again!!!!
@fireangeldragon4588
@fireangeldragon4588 5 жыл бұрын
​@@evalikeayva6567 You're welcome! And thank you for this video :). I'm glad to know there are other like-minded people out there who think Jem deserved better. It would have been interesting for Jem's storyline to have been one of unrequited love rather than the love triangle. I think the series would have been much more interesting if we had gotten more of him in it away from his relationship to Tessa and Will. I wish we had gotten more of his POV in the Infernal Devices, but at least Cassandra Clare wrote two pieces from Jem's perspective of scenes in the Infernal Devices--Burning Bright and An Offering of Moonlight--that can be found online, and the Ghosts of Shadow Market, which are a series of short stories told mostly from the perspective of Jem post the Infernal Devices. I'm going to be honest, I liked the relationship between Jem and Will as parabatai much better than Wessa or Jessa, too. We really don't emphasize on the importance of friendship enough in society, but when you find a true friend who you can be completely and entirely yourself with, you have forged a very special bond that will last forever.
@antonela0821
@antonela0821 5 жыл бұрын
🙌🏻🙌🏻U said everything I've been thinking for a very long time now. I just read the clockwork princess, that sex part and I got so angry I wanted to set my book on fire! They say no one is perfect, but Jem really is perfect. And I'm still so angry with Will and Tessa, but more with Tessa for doing that shit to him. Like he died few days ago and she was crying for 2 hours with Will and then they slept together, what the actual fuck? The fact they thought they will die does not make it right at all or the fact they felt guilty. And yeah Jem gave them his blessing, but to jump on each other a few days after his death? Wow, just wow. It looks like they were waiting for him to die and it makes me so freaking mad. I count is as a betrayal, and I really hate betrayals.
@JaneDoe-iy4by
@JaneDoe-iy4by 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you! It's pretty freaking clear that Tessa is so into Will right from the beginning and even if he treats her like shit, it's almost impossible that she sticks to him like glue. if Will didnt straightly insult her at that rooftop in book one, she'd still be forcing herself into him. now Will pushed gher away and there's Jem who is kind and attentive towards her from thr start. Yet despite that her pov and thoughts still are about will and his blue eyes! for goodness sake! Tessa looks pathetic really pining after Will who's a douche. and also, why is everyone nice to Will despite his rudeness? for all we know, they dont know about his curse yet. Then there's Jessamine who is equally rude but ppl dont try to understamd what makes her the way she is. All they ever fuss about is Will. And seriously? I just cant believe Tessa keeps bouncing back and forth between the two boys kissing each one of them and then the next🤔🙄 like it's nothing to her. They only care for Jem until his temper flares but not when he's calm they cant see how much of an effort he makes to keep the harmony among them. 🙄🙄 And also, that make out scene just HOURS after Jem died? seriously? They couldve both grieved in a different way, but lets face it. They were too overcome with their newfound companionship that they failed to respect Jem's memory even if let's say, he's dead. That's just disrespectful! That's the problem with Tessa because she cant seem to make up her mind and little does she know he'll hurt both of them anyway regardless of her choice. And that Epilogue, how i wish they just remained friends and Jem would eventually find someone else. He's way too good to scrape after leftovers that is Tessa.
@londonsoul9424
@londonsoul9424 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you! I swear I was fine with Wessa until that thing they did in Cadair Idris. I swear.
@nataliabaszczyk2387
@nataliabaszczyk2387 5 жыл бұрын
And I’m actually kind of glad that it went the way it did, cause this way we have Jem in all three of the serieses: the infernal devices, the mortal instruments and the dark artifices. It almost feels to me as if Cassie thought that Jem is (obviously) a better character then Will and so she gave Will a happy ending and whatever and she basically got rid of him at the end of tid and she kept Jem for way longer and that makes me happy, cause I adore Jem 😅❤️
@aubreyl6496
@aubreyl6496 4 жыл бұрын
They should have become a thruple. They all loved each other, but Jem was portrayed as an obstacle. They could have been amazing together, all three.
@balajiseenivasagan6411
@balajiseenivasagan6411 5 жыл бұрын
as much as we all love jem, let's us all take a moment to appreciate how gorgeous she is
@jacklemm1518
@jacklemm1518 3 жыл бұрын
ISTG when I first read Clockwork Prince back in the day, so many people were just hating on Jem for proposing to Tessa. They called him a “bad friend” “Inconsiderate” and “selfish” when he the purest person in that series. The other common thing I saw was that people would be like “DOESNT JEM SEE THE WAY THAT WILL LOOKS AT TESSA?!?” And I’m like if the roles were reversed and Will proposed, than none of you would complaining. Do Jem’s feelings not matter? Is Jem not allowed to be happy? Will’s an asshole. I don’t care if it was an act to protect the people he loved but that doesn’t excuse the stuff he did.
@EvaMariaAdrianaNegoescu
@EvaMariaAdrianaNegoescu Жыл бұрын
I think that Tessa loved Will and Jem equally, if I remember correctly she says that she wouldn't have been able to love Will the way she did if she had not loved Jem as well and vice versa, but I do agree that the author chose to focus more on Wessa because, as you mentioned, she prefers the 'impossible love' theme. Also, I do believe that the way Cassandra Claire put it made it very easy to interpret it as though Tessa wanted to marry Jem out of pity (the cave scene between Will and Tessa kinda supports this), but then again, she did wait for him for a very long time and jumped at the chance to marry him once he got cured and they had lovely scenes in TID. My favourite relationship out of the whole Shadowhunters Chronicles was the one between Will and Jem because I thought that it was just beautiful and I loved the characters (Jem slightly more than Will). I always thought that Jem not getting angry when he found out that Will was in love with Tessa was down to him being more mature and wiser overall than a lot of the other characters (because he was facing imminent death daily, his parents had been killed by a demon etc) but more so because he thought that Will was the best man out there, as he always sees the best in him even when he gets angry/frustrated/sad because of Will; given that he knew that he would either die or turn into a Silent Brother, thus leaving Tessa, I think that Jem wanted a good man to be with her, and who better than his own parabatai whom he loved and held in such high regard? I also think that he felt a bit relieved considering that his two favourite people would be there for one another when he couldn't and that they would be good for each other. The whole Herongraystairs dynamic was amazing to me because even if one of them was gone, they were still around in a way; for example, Will kept trying to find reasons to visit Jem or to bring him to the institute, Wessa named their son after Jem, Jessa named their daughter after Will, Jem still mourns the loss of his parabatai, Tessa keeps wearing things that they gave her etc. Secretly, I am hoping that we get a scene from the future when Will and Jem, and even Tessa, are reunited in the afterlife (although this scene will break my heart). The last thing I want to say is that they should have been a throuple although I get that it would have been very scandalous and uncommon for those times.
@Mari4Mari4
@Mari4Mari4 Жыл бұрын
Will and Jem where twin souls and Tessa was their soulmate.
@andraelena8094
@andraelena8094 5 жыл бұрын
Team JEM FOREVER!❤😍
@joselyncadena4758
@joselyncadena4758 4 жыл бұрын
I read this 6 years ago and fell in love with it and I’m rereading it again I see how blinded i was. I use think it was perfect representation of a love triangle bc all three of them “loved each other” but it’s so clear now that Tessa didn’t love Jem as much as Will. And I hate that we don’t get Jem’s point of view that much. I really need to vent with someone about this my heart is broken. Jem deserves more 😢
@johannahaas3819
@johannahaas3819 4 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one who sees it this way since everyone else talks about the „best love triangle in YA“ . 😊
@jacklemm1518
@jacklemm1518 3 жыл бұрын
I swear the only people who say they love the love triangle are Wessa shippers because they got what they wanted.
@hanifa542
@hanifa542 5 жыл бұрын
I really disliked the fact that the only significant relationships Tessa had were romantic ones with Will and Jem. I had hoped she’d make some sort of friendship with one of the other characters like Sophie or Charlotte (they weren’t that close tbh)
@ana-hs7mo
@ana-hs7mo 4 жыл бұрын
I think that why Cassie may have highlighted Tessa's love for Will more than her love for Jem was because it was forbidden. Cassie tends to focus largely on forbidden love because it's exciting and thrilling, I suppose but in this way, she neglects non-forbidden love. I do indeed agree with you when you say Jem was an obstacle, because he was the obstacle that _made_ Wessa's love forbidden. James Carstairs certainly deserved better, yes.
@saisevithaaaura5130
@saisevithaaaura5130 4 жыл бұрын
Heya. Pretty sure there's a way to italicize the word "made" btw. Just use underscores before and after the word. Like, _made_
@ana-hs7mo
@ana-hs7mo 4 жыл бұрын
@@saisevithaaaura5130 That better? _You really couldn't have texted on discord huh or idk_ like _my comment???_
@saisevithaaaura5130
@saisevithaaaura5130 4 жыл бұрын
@@ana-hs7mo Def couldn'ta done thaaaaat. Lol chika here ya go a like and something to compensate my terrible sins: ❤
@sanjanav777
@sanjanav777 4 жыл бұрын
Jem on his death bed told will that it was fine for him to get with Tessa afterward and it really does seem like he was fine with it but maybe he was bitter. I read the books a couple of years ago so I don't recall his words exactly but maybe he was bitter but he didn't let it show. Maybe he just wanted his parabatai to be with someone who could live alongside him and though he dislikes the idea of it maybe he thinks 'I am a dead man, what do I have to lose?' and pushes his parabatai to have a better future. I think that perhaps his point of view needed to be explored more by Cassie. She had a lot of potential to explore with Jem but she stuck to making him an obstacle of love.
@saisevithaaaura5130
@saisevithaaaura5130 4 жыл бұрын
"Fine for him to get with Will" you mean, "Fine for him to get with Tessa"? Lol
@sanjanav777
@sanjanav777 4 жыл бұрын
@@saisevithaaaura5130 oh dear. That is what I mean.
@saracalderon6925
@saracalderon6925 6 жыл бұрын
I read this books a long time ago when i was 14 and never noticed this about Jem 😭 it saddens me bc It was obvious Tessa always liked Will more, and only got engaged to Jem bc she felt sorry for him:'(. You are so right Jem deserved better.
@nataliabaszczyk2387
@nataliabaszczyk2387 5 жыл бұрын
Sara Calderon thats not true... she loved Jem too! And she didn’t love anyone after Will until Jem could be with her and than she married him. After 130 years! She did love him. Her love for Will was just different, cause Will was crazy and passionate and all over the place. Jem was different: calm and patient and understanding. Therefore their live was also different.
@tima1639
@tima1639 2 ай бұрын
the thing is, I always had the feeling that jem was so forgiving, so without any spite and so neglectant of his own desires because he never assumed that things were his to begin with. He always believed that he would die soon, and therefore lived a life in which he did not dare to ask for anything, merely a traveler and without greed. A lonely existence like that. I especially never assumed he was bland, just "nice". He always somehow felt lonely to me, a little tragic. Not 2D and not without personality To me he was someone who let go of his own desires and wishes for the sake of others, as easily as breathing, because he did not deserve/have the right to be demanding of life, to ask for more. oh man I really love him
@antonela0821
@antonela0821 5 жыл бұрын
He deserves everything 😭❤
@mariafernanda-uc9mc
@mariafernanda-uc9mc 3 жыл бұрын
i read this books a few days ago and the most of the time I SPENT CRYING thinking about the consequences of all that mess that tessa was doing. I was SO afraid of when the explosion would happen, cause parabatai it is such a beautiful thing to a pretty girl who they just met ruin it n I felt so bad for both of the boys ALL THE TIME, when she kissed one and the other i was like: im so sorry guys she was not thinking 😭😭😭😭 im traumatized i love thessa but gIRL.......
@shrutigupta186
@shrutigupta186 4 жыл бұрын
This video changed the way i think about the series and the characters so much. Thankyou
@edieleong6311
@edieleong6311 4 жыл бұрын
Someone said that they didn't like Jem in a comment and this was my response: HOW DARE YOU INSULT MY BABY!! HE IS A WHOLESOME GOD AND THE ONLY REASON WESSA IS TOGETHER IS BECAUSE OF HIM!!! HE IS A SAINT AND NO ONE CAN TELL ME OTHERWISE. AFTER ALL HE'S GONE THROUGH HE IS STILL A LOVING, ATTENTIVE PERSON. thanks for coming to my Ted talk. (Sorry im overreacting)
@sanjanav777
@sanjanav777 4 жыл бұрын
I also think that Clare generally focuses on the romantic aspect of everything. She is a great writer but to her, Love is the most revolutionary aspect in the world while there are simple things such as friendship and familial love that she frankly disregards or later in the series (TDA) make seem like a burden to the MC. Charlotte and Henry were greatly disregarded and were only credited for their 'upkeep of the institute' and 'inventing of many things'. Then, there's Gabriel and Gideon who instantly fell in love with their respective S.O', I mean, what of the brotherly relationship? What of Gabriel finally leaving his father's side and staying by his brother? No, there must only be romance. I see this as a downfall in Clare's stories and I truly feel bad.
@anna__3427
@anna__3427 5 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who thinks Jem and Will could be perfect together?
@evalikeayva6567
@evalikeayva6567 5 жыл бұрын
no joke i kept thinking that throughout the book. tessa doesn't deserve either of them tbh
@yashitaprasad5771
@yashitaprasad5771 3 жыл бұрын
They would be SUCH a power couple!! Like I feel like they balance each other out a lot better than either of them with Tessa. Like with Tessa they lose a bit of their individual identity, but with each other they can lean one another while still being fiercely independent. I know I’m like way too late to this comment, but I just had to reply
@meghanavincent5778
@meghanavincent5778 3 жыл бұрын
@@evalikeayva6567 finally! Someone who thinks the same thing
@dannybishop166
@dannybishop166 2 жыл бұрын
Was I the only one who absolutely HATED the ending to this trilogy? Like yeah, Jem becomes mortal again and that's wonderful because he finally gets to be with Tessa and all that. But now that means he's going to die. The one thing Tessa was going to have forever was that meeting once a year with Jem on the bridge and now he's just going to die and she will lose the last person who actually knows her. I also feel absolutely terrible for Magnus Bane for this same reason. They are both immortal and will/have lost everyone that truly knew them.
@ashy1587
@ashy1587 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Tessa definitely loves both Jem and Will, they all adore each other. I definitely agree that Jem deserved better and should have been allowed to express anger. No character should be expected to always be so submissive to others needs over themselves. Tessa is very much not overpowered, she is the granddaughter of a greater demon, her powers are completely suitable if not a little underwhelming. There would be no plot in the book except for platonic fluff between will and Jem if not for Tessa (don't get me wrong I do love me some parabatai bonding, but still) Tessa never actually enters battle like the others do either? She always has to be protected by the others. Will and Tessa keeping secrets from Jem was solely for the purpose of NOT hurting him. If the infernal devices was where Jem's story ended, I would probably feel the same way as you, but as things are with him happy in Devon with Tessa, Kit and Mina, I'm fine with it.
@JaneDoe-iy4by
@JaneDoe-iy4by 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you! It's pretty freaking clear that Tessa is so into Will right from the beginning and even if he treats her like shit, it's almost impossible that she sticks to him like glue. if Will didnt straightly insult her at that rooftop in book one, she'd still be forcing herself into him. now Will pushed gher away and there's Jem who is kind and attentive towards her from thr start. Yet despite that her pov and thoughts still are about will and his blue eyes! for goodness sake! Tessa looks pathetic really pining after Will who's a douche. and also, why is everyone nice to Will despite his rudeness? for all we know, they dont know about his curse yet. Then there's Jessamine who is equally rude but ppl dont try to understamd what makes her the way she is. All they ever fuss about is Will. And seriously? I just cant believe Tessa keeps bouncing back and forth between the two boys kissing each one of them and then the next🤔🙄 like it's nothing to her. They only care for Jem until his temper flares but not when he's calm they cant see how much of an effort he makes to keep the harmony among them. 🙄🙄 And also, that make out scene just HOURS after Jem died? seriously? They couldve both grieved in a different way, but lets face it. They were too overcome with their newfound companionship that they failed to respect Jem's memory even if let's say, he's dead. That's just disrespectful! Even if Tessa claims over and over, that she loves them equally, it's pretty clear she's making it up to not hurt the other. that's the problem with Tessa because she cant seem to make up her mind and little does she know he'll hurt both of them anyway regardless of her choice. And that Epilogue, how i wish they just remained friends and Jem would eventually find someone else. He's way too good to scrape after leftovers that is Tessa.
@jameslampley1689
@jameslampley1689 Жыл бұрын
Jem really deserved better back then I mean he got it but he really deserved better back then. I think if he wasn’t sick he wouldn’t have been like “go ahead and marry the woman I love for me.”
@victoriaprats6108
@victoriaprats6108 3 жыл бұрын
Just read The Infernal Devices a few months ago. How could Tessa and Will betray Jem like that??? And he was totally fine with that. Was it really necessary for Wessa to sleep together right after learning Jem was dead??? They even enjoy doing it (that's what I get from Tessa's POV), in normal cirncumstances that would be fine, but Jem had just 'died'. They didn't apologize, even if Jem didn't seem to want to hear a word about it. I wouldn't forgive my best friend nor my fiance if they did something like that to me, and certainly I wouldn't even consider being back together with said fiance. And as much as Tessa tried to convince me that she was in love with both of them, it was way too obvious who was going to 'win' in the love triangle. Jem's POVs are almost non-existent, it's really hard to side with him, with Will always getting attention from the other characters. Will is always despicted as the hero. Tessa never stops thinking about him even when she's making out with Jem, but it never happens the other way around. I like the epilogue, but I could have loved it if Jem was given the same relevance (and POVs) as Will (based on the fact that Tessa loves both of them equally) or if Tessa had always made clear that Will was her one true love and, after years of being alone, decided to give her and Jem's friendship a chance to become something more
@Bea..l0v3
@Bea..l0v3 4 жыл бұрын
My friend asked me "Team Edward or Team Jacob?" I said "who cares the real question is Team Jem or Team Will?" She said team will I'm still waiting for an explanation of why she momentarily went insane
@aubreyl6496
@aubreyl6496 4 жыл бұрын
The only correct answer is team Jill. Ditch Tessa, let her become your bridesmaid or something. Jem and Will were OTP.
@Bea..l0v3
@Bea..l0v3 4 жыл бұрын
Nooooooooooooooooooo theywerebparabataiiiiiiiiiiiiii
@aubreyl6496
@aubreyl6496 4 жыл бұрын
My first reply had a mistake so I'm redoing it, lol. I mean that's a good point, but the Clave has definitely been wrong about what's right before.
@meganocallaghan2087
@meganocallaghan2087 4 жыл бұрын
and she NEVER mentions anything to the other ? like I thought it was kind of weird that neither jem OR will knew about each other’s relationship with tessa
@chloemoore6000
@chloemoore6000 3 жыл бұрын
I saw jem carstairs, I clicked simpleee✨🥰
@aubreyl6496
@aubreyl6496 4 жыл бұрын
On the part about everyone being neatly paired up, I agree with you. Cecily's daughter is probably the only character that didn't end up with a solid romantic partner (and only bc they broke up) in the entire Shadowhunter universe.
@edieleong6311
@edieleong6311 4 жыл бұрын
he did it because he loved Jem
@triny1395
@triny1395 Жыл бұрын
I was so devastated when Tessa was with Will. I really didn't like him. He was awful to others even after he realised that he wasn't cursed. Also asking Tessa to break up with Jem was so mean. Tessa didn't owe him anything. He was cold and rude to her and lost his chance. Mean and rude is not hot. Especially if you are looking for a marriage.
@thebooknitter
@thebooknitter 5 жыл бұрын
I love you girl you are absolutely right
@edieleong6311
@edieleong6311 4 жыл бұрын
Tessa loves both of them equally. Also, you can love someone while being married. The ending was the best but the worst.
@layla9319
@layla9319 5 ай бұрын
I find this perspective so interesting because the general consensus I’ve see on tumblr in the fandom is that *Will* is the one who deserved better, and Jem is obviously Cassie’s favorite character. I’ve seen so many people say that Will and Tessa’s marriage was constantly overshadowed by Tessa’s feelings for Jem and that Cassie treated Wessa not as an equal pairing, but as a mere footnote in the story of Jessa, that seeing this title genuinely gave me whiplash lol. I do see your points though, so I feel like maybe Cassie genuinely likes Will and Jem equally? I’m not sure how else both sides could have equally compelling evidence for why their ship was done dirty.
@avenueis1377
@avenueis1377 5 жыл бұрын
yes sis spill that tea
@adrianaarias527
@adrianaarias527 5 жыл бұрын
Ugh this is how i feel too 💔💔
@inesferreira4743
@inesferreira4743 Жыл бұрын
The parabatai bond is controversial, because if Tessa loves both of them, that doesn't mean she loves Jem and Will at the same time. For example, in the mortal instruments, Clary loves Jace, but not necessarily loves Alec, which have a parabatai bond with Jace, she is just Alec's friend. So I think this love triangle in the infernal devices is so hotter and painful to read, where the friendship is a topic in decancy. A flame fading.
@sleepystar1751
@sleepystar1751 4 жыл бұрын
Of course I mean I his maybe the only book where a I have seen the girl loves two guys and the two guys are totally okay with it maybe because of the parabatai bond more than anything but Will did feel jealousy... Jem shouldn't have married Tessa after will died and he's gonna die anyway he could find another love it was possible he could... when Tessa was with Will she didn't think of Jem she's didn't compare him with Jem whereas whenever she was with Jem she compared him with Will like always and besides they bonded over Will in the first few times all their conversations ended up being about Will. If Will was available she wouldn't have agreed to the proposal surely if only Will hadn't been late or Jem was late in proposing there wouldn't have been any complications. Again we didn't see much of Jem I meant his character is what we see as other people describe it not from his perspective. Even Cecily probably got more pov than Jem being just in the 3rd book we got to get a clear insight of almost everyone Gabriel, Charlotte, Gedion, Sophie, Cecily, and Magnus too but Jem was one of the most prominent character yet we didn't get much of his pov... What we got from him was only his love for Tessa and Will and him dying but his past his feelings about himself his character I didn't understand much
@emy___enjoythelittlethings3744
@emy___enjoythelittlethings3744 4 жыл бұрын
Well yeah. Tessa and Will were made for each other... so Jem should've gotten something better than just being Tessa's second option. And god' he deserved just someone who could see him as its everything... me por example!! However. He's alive and we all love hin 🥺💔
@domeniqueramosch8512
@domeniqueramosch8512 4 жыл бұрын
Jem carstairs y my boyfriend♡
@greensprite6067
@greensprite6067 3 жыл бұрын
im confused, is the shadowhunters an official series or is it fan made? I looked up the shadowhunters and there isnt a single wikipedia page of it
@evalikeayva6567
@evalikeayva6567 3 жыл бұрын
there are multiple series (the mortal instruments, the infernal devices etc etc) which all feature the shadow hunter characters :)
@edieleong6311
@edieleong6311 4 жыл бұрын
She doesn't break Will and Jem's friendship. it's kinda their fault. They both would have been incomplete without her.
@yojtnahc8083
@yojtnahc8083 5 жыл бұрын
👍
@katrinakim8937
@katrinakim8937 4 жыл бұрын
I don't really ship Jem and Tessa.
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