Why Jurrien Timber To Arsenal SHOULDN'T Work... But Does

[@manu3725]

Saying Zinchenko doesnt like playing mid is so off.. that is exactly where is want to be, and where he is at his best

[@Fortunaatp]

Crazily inaccurate video…can’t believe this guy is being paid for this rubbish

[@Ben360net]

Fact even when he plays for Ukraine

[@RomaInvicta202]

He likes it, but he's not particularly gifted at that - he has passion and pours his heart into the job, but I like him as a left back much more; although tbh I'd still choose Kieran over Zinky; so what Adam says makes sense to me We'll see in couple of weeks

[@thearmyking7087]

@@RomaInvicta202what do you mean? He’s literally more of a midfielder than a left back, his press resistance, though balls, he’s the best inverted full back itl and possibly Europe (on the ball ofc)

[@RonaldinhoGoat]

@@RomaInvicta202 He was originally a midfielder before becoming an inverted left back.

[@johnnyryan656]

Round of applause to Edu, Mikel, Garlick etc Absolutely outdone yourselves so far

[@tf2368]

Mbappe next

[@groundhogguns5828]

@@tf2368 no thanks

[@neiltoby1771]

​@@tf2368Mbappe is a big head wouldn't have him near the club

[@IamSylar1]

@@tf2368 Mbappe would destroy any harmony in the squad. Very toxic and selfish player.

[@Jack-dx8om]

I think the role you have escribed to Tierney is more likely to be filled by either Kiwior or Tomiyasu. They are more natural centre backs and Arteta has shown more willingness to play them in an inverting midfield role than Tierney

[@tapiwa1992]

All of a sudden the depth is scary

[@effayeyeayzed]

I just hope KT gets his game time too.

[@aminerkin9844]

No tierny, just white. I think timber will replace zinchenko because he can do everything zinchenko can do but better at defending than him.

[@gooner3681]

@@aminerkin9844Timber isn’t replacing Zinchenko. You haven’t even seen how he plays in the PL yet.

[@joshfredlang]

I think the next couple of years are going to show us not only how good he is, but how important Kiwior is to our system

[@blederin5999]

Wait what, Zinchenko wants to be doing his best work out wide? Zinchenko was pinnacle to our build up play in the centre of the pitch. Where's that take from?

[@sriig]

i was puzzled by that too. My "benefit of the doubt" is that he meant to say that Zinchenko playing in the Ben White role while the "right back" forms the midfield box is a suboptimal use of his abilities. Obviously thats not what was said, sometimes it gets scrambled, but it flows logically with how he was setting up the argument.

[@blederin5999]

@@sriig You could be right but I am not sure. It would be very strange to say that zincenko plays his best on the wing.

[@IbbyB.]

Zinchenko is definitely more comfortable in the middle than out wide. He likes to invert so I disagree about that. Otherwise fantastic video mate, enjoyed it!

[@Ario92]

Yeah I raised an eyebrow at that. Zinchenko is not "doing a job" stepping into midfield, it's his specialty. Also he's better defensively than people give him credit for.

[@tandriants]

Yess Zinchenko is incredible but why not have a similar structure on that right side, that would make more sense cause Arsenal also play in Champions League

[@Ario92]

@@tandriants Oh don't get me wrong I totally agree, I've been calling for an inverting right back for months, I'm delighted with this signing. I just disagree with the assertion that Zinchenko isn't natural at playing inverted.

[@mdot1799]

@@Ario92 Zinchenko cannot defend man, he’s just good at headers

[@joaopedropeixotoutrabo4765]

edu is a Genius

[@johnnyryan656]

Amen to that

[@GeorgesOpinion]

*Arteta is a Genius

[@fzprof1756]

Absolutely world class genius IQ 200

[@Mossad-e1c]

He's a 6 who plays in the back four.

[@MartinDurden]

​@@GeorgesOpinionEdu and Artera are genius *

[@DominicPowell]

I think Timber can also create a double inversion in a 2 - 3 - 5 system - those three "midfielders" Declan, Tierney/Zinchenko, Timber would be an incredible ball winning midfield base to keep the pressure high on teams and never let them out.

[@makei89]

Suffocating the opponents

[@animateit4642]

I think he will play the john stones role in arsenal

[@hungtrumno]

@@animateit4642 John Stones role must be accompanied by a real defending LB, which is Ake. If we play both wings with Timber and Zinchenko, then Timber might be the last man standing right in front of the CBs, allowing Rice to push higher. Which is very different from John Stones role as he is allowed to go higher than Rodri.

[@ledias7]

@@hungtrumno Obviously it won't be the exact role as Stones, but with Kiwior and Tierney we have the capability of using Timber/White similarily.

[@hungtrumno]

@@ledias7 Yeah, as I said above the LB must be a player with strong defensive profile such as Kiwior or Tierney, not Zinchenko, for the RB to replicate the role of Stones. But at the same time, the RB must be comfortable enough with the ball either passing or holding up or running with the ball or taking on etc., so for me only Timber can do so. White is just not qualified to play as Stones role yet.

[@innocentaduku1381]

Timber buy asides all this analysis gives arsenal the option of 2 capable central defenders on each side.. Saliba+White / Gabriel+Kiwior. Leaving Timber+Tomoyasu for RB & Zinch+Tierney on LB. Holding can be gone and it won't matter. Cause when Arsenal is short at CB, Timber can deputize and Tomoyasu can take RB. Theirs so much fluidity at the back and it's scary. Timber can also even play LB. It's a winner for Arsenal on the Timber deal.

[@patrickdawson6281]

There were a few games a few years ago where Arteta experimented with 6 attacking players with a 2-3 build up, consider if you will both timber and zinchencho inverting rice topping the 3 and then 5 attacking players, with rice driving forwards, this btw is how havertz makes sense.

[@akwilson1676]

What if...Arterta plays him like John Stones? Could work ngl.

[@jaapblankestein9511]

Great video, but mark my words Arteta sets up a 1-2-3-4-1 in the second and final third. Zinny and Timber get next to Rice with Kai and Martin higher on the midfield.

[@jordandavis3867]

Excellent video! You covered a few things I believe we will implement next season, however I think there is much more genius to what Arteta is trying to do. I think Arteta is trying to build a versatile team that can change their approach throughout the duration of a game and make it nearly impossible to predict what Arsenal will do. You stated in the video that Timber can also play as a centreback. Perhaps Mikel intends for his players to play in multiple positions. Let me explain, we're also linked to Frimpong and other fullbacks....Is Arteta building a system that makes it possible for players to take up false positions on the pitch to allow for numerical advantage? Is there a scenario where Timber can play as a cb and push into central midfield alongside Rice who then occupies the left space and whoever is the fullback inverts into midfield occupying the right space? If this is the case the formation could possibly be a 2-3-2-3 formation in posession? Allowing the two 8s/10s to push up higher into the final third smothering the defence in a 2-3-5 attavking formation. It gets better...... That fullback that inverts and occupies the right space in midfield can now push out onto the flank stretching the pitch and causing a possible 2-2-6 formation, or Rice can push further into attacking midfield and the fullback stays deeoer to form a pivot with Timber resulting in a 2-2-1-5 formation. That's just my opinion. It sounds crazy but it's pure genius if he pulls that off!!

[@lutaayam]

Not to mention that football affords you 5 substitutions these days. You can completely change your system in a single match depending on requirements

[@akshatsingh6297]

Hey Jordan! That was pure genius the way you explained everything above. Needs certain knowledge about the game to know that deep. 💯

[@JOHNGROSS2700]

Very well explained

[@amiryusuf9619]

He will most definitely do this. There are triggers for different phases wether its open spaces or movement up the pitch. In order to really pin teams in we need to double invert.

[@ariyoabiona1606]

Instead of Zinny or Tierney we can have Kiwior who can actually play DM, RB and CB. This way he or Timber can invert at a moment's notice. This will give Rice confidence to go forward more often.

[@BInobuni]

I believe that will likely be the case. Arteta played Kiwior at left for the last few games. I see Kiwior at left back and Timber inverting at right back. In other games depending on opponent, Zinchenko and White will alternate.

[@aokaparagit]

We better sell Tierney bcuz I don't see him in this team. Kiwior will take tht spot

[@EsperothX]

This is absolutely psycopathic if this is what Aresnel are planning and I am ABSOLUTELY HERE for it.

[@ledias7]

I can imagine a backline of Kiwior-Saliba-White-Timber where all 4 players are capable of stepping into midfield for extended periods of time while still having a back 3 of CBs. Opposition teams would be absolutely clueless on how to stop our build up. Only issue is Gabriel doesn't deserve to be dropped and Kiwior probably isn't ready just yet.

[@user-gp6cc8jj6d]

Arteta wont push Saliba to the left, also wont drop his most physical defender

[@SUB2-TypicalCity]

LOL. SO ARTETA COPY'S PEP WITH INVERTING LB/OR RB..... AND NOW YOU WANT MULTIPLE CBS TO STEP UP AND INVERT? MIND YOU JOHN STONES IS THE ONLY CB STEPPING INTO THE MID. majority at Rb but occasionally CB. 🎤

[@SUB2-TypicalCity]

Bro wants a entire new Defensive line to play together perfectly 1st season. Lol fifa career more spotted!¡¡

[@ledias7]

@@SUB2-TypicalCity Only one of those players is new, and I said nothing about this season

[@ledias7]

@@SUB2-TypicalCity You do know that Pep gives Arteta credit for adding the inverted fullback to City's tactics, right? And I really don't think there's anything to be ashamed about Arteta being a Pep disciple, he clearly learned from him.

[@johnratnam4864]

Love the shoutout to Pythagoras

[@FourFourTwo]

Best channel on KZbin, guy’s a genius

[@csg-cutesmilegooner1690]

These new signings are not only top class but very versatile

[@monils]

Have only watched one other vid on this channel. Saw this come up on my feed and thought this had to be good. Wasn’t disappointed. Subbing immediately!

[@stevenaball333]

Timber will simply give us the option of an inverted full back able to contribute in midfield from right back as Zinny has done from the left. Not sure what you mean when you say Zinny did his best work up the wing, was always at his best coming into centre mid last season nevertheless the evolution continues 🔥

[@KhodeineKhrazy]

Honestly one of the best analysis vids i've watched! That breakdown was CRAZY!

[@iankemp1131]

Sounds like Arsenal are basically building a really strong and flexible squad who can be rotated, take up different formations and cope with injuries or lots of successive games (think Champions League) and the recruitment process is really working well with the manager. Only worry is whether there is adequate cover if Saliba gets injured again which may have cost them the title last year. An unsung hero till then.

[@frankoboh8217]

Timber is joining Arsenal so that Arteta can improve his game further. Arteta will coach him to do a Zinchenko and even better, allowing him to take more risks going forward because he is very good with the ball at his feet.

[@nextabe1]

Great vid. Subbed to help you get over 400K, congrats on that!

[@DigitalNomadOnFIRE]

The best tactical explanation I've seen in a long time

[@610vegas]

Agree but would just like to add 1: Zinchenko not the best defender for big games more about control and 2: His injury record is not the best. Which makes the Timber signing even more important. can see kiwor or Tomi playing the left LB role to this season Think Tierney might be off.

[@okuhle1711]

That's exactly what I assume is going to happen. Mikel doesn't rate Tierney anymore.

[@sanchupaulson3115]

@@okuhle1711 its not about mikel rating Tierney i guess, Tierney is more a natural left back and not a inverted one. also when tierney was playing the overlaps often caused confusion and limited the firepower of Gabi. Now with Zinchenko on the eft last season Gabi was on fire . and probably thats why tierney will leave but he is an asset in certain games and phases of play.

[@hsbnsse]

​@@sanchupaulson3115yes and at the same time he could be a starter for a few big teams so I doubt he will be 3rd choice LB

[@fightmilk8613]

As someone who doesn’t understand tactics at all, thank you for this video.

[@fishingking1499]

Exactly what i was thinking.. thanks for putting it in video form

[@sonsofbiscuits1]

Based on his stats, Timber sounds likd he could be a great DM, without the inversion. World class tackling, technical, quick, agile, progressive passes. And imagine Timber and Rice as DMs when we're protecting a lead. His conservative passing would be welcomed in this scenario. Could even play him as the 8 to utilise his frequent passing into final third, not to mention his technical abilty. Feel like Arsenal have so many options atm. I still think they need a goal scoring striker. Teams would struggle to plan for both Jesus, and a lethal goal machine. Would give Arsenal even more variety, teams wouldn't know how to deal with them.

[@Godspeedysick]

Timber doesn’t have the composure and physicality to be an all out DM but he can slot in to cover for Rice when he moves further up the pitch. Timber however, has a destroyer’s mentality and reminds me of Lisandro (except the headers).

[@Swisswavey]

They could also invert both and push Rice up a bit. Could be useful against low blocks.

[@asyrafaffan8015]

He's not 50-60 mill. The deal was closed at 45mill.

[@TheArsenalMan125]

So weird how he says 50-60m but posts a tweet where it says 40+5m euros

[@onii-chan2811]

Pythagoras In boot is just the best yt analysis channel and yours. Please don’t ever change ur style

[@SidGolan]

Somewhere between 50 and 60 million pounds?? Ermm not sure you can read but the deal is for €40m + €5m add ons. What’s with the agenda of overstating the transfer fee? Pathetic.

[@Clockster70]

As you say he appears to tick a lot of boxes, hopefully along with Havertz, Rice and a couple of more key signings including a top striker should give us a chance of battling for the league and winning some silverware next season, great vid!

[@commentarytalk1446]

I see what you're saying: Rice was worth blowing big money on as a core DM and then throw in Timber to go alongside or reverse with Zinchenko for flexibility and add in Havertz with Odegaard, it does make a good argument for signings, profiles, systems and in-game flexibility and boosting stats all converging together. One question I have is, are Arsenal still a bit physically small/slight eg set-pieces as a weakness?

[@sameerkolhar6489]

I think Arsenal are preparing for the 2 options that City might have next season. It’s easy to forget about Cancelo. If he ends up staying back at City, they have 2 options as well, in the playing XI they can invert. Cancelo and Stones. It’s good forward thinking from Arsenal. But yeah, it’s gearing up to be another exciting season nonetheless ❤

[@geordiedog1749]

Great analysis again,Alex.

[@HenSt-gz7qj]

I think White will play more centrally while Timber is on the RB. Especially if Saliba is out (either permanently or out injured).

[@GeoffC19]

there's gonna be sooo many game to game rotations that are gonna be great pairings - any mix of Saliba/White/Big Gabi/Kiwior will make our backline tough to break. This will also help when up late in the game to defend our lead - this is gonna be insane

[@VaamChao]

Explanation was fantastic.

[@emmraldinegbenose7985]

Nice analysis......totally makes sense

[@draman8414]

I think the negative part is really a positive when at the back foot why risk when there is a way better easier option as while in attack you have to make those passes because even though you lose it you are still in their half so i dont really see how that is bad

[@ConSciousNesS-sv9hy]

Love how you analyze…. Great stuff….

[@paulwhitehead1190]

Fantastic analysis 👍🏻

[@chasfarthing244]

Great video but where the hell did you get £50-60 mil😂

[@COMcastic]

wow what an amazing video big props

[@eddymwanza1378]

I think Kiwior will excel in a back 3 as the furthest on the left

[@SantisDancingShoes]

Loving these vids

[@Kidu_S]

Just letting you know brother, “Arrivederci” is a farewell😃 meaning “until we meet again”✌️

[@tobby_fabulous]

Nice analysis mate 😊😊

[@deocharles8349]

Bro Tierney is our 3rd choice if not 4th LB, no way he will be used to invert or play in the back 3 ahead of Kiwior

[@son0funiverse]

That's great, I thought the same way too

[@gooner3681]

Zinchenko’s specialty is inverting, probably the best in tbh league. Not sure he preferred being out wide at all.

[@RonKajawo]

You've earned my subscribe

[@dudefromsa]

I can safely say...ive learnt a lot from this video. Brilliant analysis and ive gain perspective!!

[@rcmanization]

this analysis is quite flawed towards the end. If teams figure out how to play against a box midfield, then arsenal gains nothing by having Timber invert instead of Zinchenko - coz it's still a box midfield that is shaped in the same way as before (only the personnel is different). Meaning that teams can stil counter the box midfield

[@rellyranking1235]

Imagine back 3 of White saliba Gabriel with zinchenko/timber as wing back

[@aaroncathey627]

Zinchenko just doing a job is questionable. He was revolutionary last season. And he's not how you described. He's more comfortable with the ball in the middle of the field. Tierney will likely go. What this does is allow us to Flip the inversion based on the winger we're facing.

[@scotthamilton9515]

Always a great video from my man Adam Clery! As an Arsenal fan I think this could be a superb signing!

[@MiniTheVinx]

Watching this video a year later: 1. Almost right, but it's as an inverted LB. 2. But how on earth could you think we'd drop Benny Blanc and break up the BW-Ødin-Saka axis?

[@bazalinco]

You've done a disservice to Zinchenko. Also, we already know Tierney can't invert successfully.

[@adeshas83]

Good content love it

[@adamelmino8359]

Get him to 400K ASAP !!

[@joemagliocco6153]

Not between £50-60m - the tweet you put on screen even says the fee. Bizarre reporting there from FFT

[@DigitalNomadOnFIRE]

Tierney isn't good at inverting

[@sargonsblackgrandfather2072]

Let Timber invert from RB and Tierney can play LB. I like Zinny we can use him in midfield or at LB against weaker teams but defensively he’s a liability

[@svenwagenmans5492]

4:27 that picture is quinten timber not jurrien

[@vws911]

Where does Tomiyasu stand after that tho?

[@Boy_Cry_Wolf.]

The only problem here is aerial battle Apart from that he’s a good defender Your just beating around the bush

[@pyrow822]

Where is Ben White?

[@uzii1077]

I was expecting the tenacious man went Martinez is just fucking insane🤣🤣

[@simstander5471]

You deserve 400k subs

[@jamesmowbray1837]

He feels a lot like a he'd be doing what John Stones was doing for City towards the end of last season

[@neiltoby1771]

But surely you would want you're cb to play it 100% safe in his own half

[@hsbnsse]

Ben white and saka combo is too special

[@jaspalheir3387]

50 and 60 million pounds?! Why do all media seem to be inflating transfer prices, hes only 10 million off and im sure he knows it!

[@milicentouma2943]

New but already enjoying

[@bryandogman]

Exciting times.

[@kunimitsune177]

It wasn't a 4-2-3-1 at all. It's a 4-3-3. That's not actually what invert means; that's what invert has come to mean because people are dumb. Inverted wingers' strong foot is opposite to the side they play on; inside forwards play inside but are not inverted as their strong foot is the same as the side they play on. "Inverted fullback" is a complete misnomer created by a pundit stumbling over his words, it should be INSIDE fullback.

[@Manishss920]

Arsenal. Defence for next season Rb tomi/white /timber Lb. Zinny/kiwior/tomi Rcb saliba/white/tomi Lcb gabreile/kiwior/white Its pretty clear arteta wants playera who xan olay multiple role in defence. I dont see tierney fitting in. Newcastle is best team for him

[@deneomoloto3555]

Nah...Pep Will Condure Up Another Tactic

[@groundhogguns5828]

He will evolve under Mikel

[@arsenalboss1399]

I keep telling arsenal fans Tumber will be a CM just like Stones for man city...arteta always talk about keep the ball so long that your opponents gets tired so look out for that next season

[@carlosczg]

Man, wrong Analisis , you forgot BEN WHITE

[@JoeMamaisgae]

Tierney, Gabi, Saliba? No.

[@danparsons1423]

Ben White cam do exact same

[@kimuliadrian5414]

That’s why Arteta wants hato zichenkos time might be done

[@killercaos123]

So you’re telling me there’s hope?

[@GrahamWiggill]

Did you say Zinchenko isn’t good at inverting? 😂😂😂😂

[@guyguy44]

So zinchenko gonna sit out?

[@alvinmulongo4244]

U lack ball knowledge...timber will play right back at arsenal

[@Ivanovic5580]

How do you know it does, he hasn't kicked a ball yet?

[@bigelfpig]

Why are you adding like 15 million to the price 😂

[@DigitalNomadOnFIRE]

YUrian.

[@georgeperrotta6000]

Thought about this having two fullbacks playing who are both comfortable inverting. Issue is Tierney didn't do that well at all last season when it was asked of him, we very much missed zinchenko's control in midfield when we was injured. Likewise, when timber would invert issue would be zinchenko isn't comfortable in a back three at all

[@jabezadonis2735]

Now if united didn't bid for Martinez we'd have both

[@EmperorDraconianIV]

He is basically a john stones

[@Invincibles0304]

This is exactly why he will play in midfield alongside rice

[@loquacious-]

you always say you're a ___ fan, but i just watch all your videos

[@TheJewadbashir]

I think he might end up in midfield

[@rob4926]

Bro got the price so so wrong

[@StigPrice]

Feel like he's a CDM at heart