Why Keeping

[@GROWMASTERSFARM]

I I'll be coming back for testimonies... Only 2 months to go

[@Homerangepoultry]

Let's share and build each other. Please share numbers in full. Hope you maintain good records

[@Homerangepoultry]

Hello @littlefarmke How is progress so far with your flock? You were to get back to us with some feedback.

[@GROWMASTERSFARM]

@@Homerangepoultry good timing was at this moment that I wanted to share with you guys, it's late but I can confirm that layers are not good for starters,I had ,my improved kienyeji layed at exactly 17 weeks while the layers layed at 27 weeks, layers that's issa brown has a very low conversation ratio and can't feed any feed apart from the unga one,which is expensive... layers laying at 30% and my improved kienyeji at 70%...I need your suggestions..will layers improve ,and how? Or should I sell them... feed's isn't the problem for my case..they feed from morning to evening..Thank you

[@GROWMASTERSFARM]

My next project is now going fully into improved Kienyeji more specifically to deal with Kari improved Kienyeji, starting in may God willing

[@Homerangepoultry]

@@GROWMASTERSFARM Thank you for sharing with everyone your experience.

[@michaelngoma1277]

That's what we call real accounting and establishing the meaning of profit from a business. I am a farmer and I agree you. The biggest problem in Kenya that makes it difficult in poultry farming is the high cost of feeds due to high taxation. But I have to continue anyway

[@ruthodinga8359]

Learnt a lot but still convinced about making profits

[@VIEWMARY001]

Great video for those who wants to start. they nee d to have a good and well researched business plan.

[@ombogozedekiah2975]

What he says is true so long as you don't cut costs. In layers small changes have a great overall impact

[@hassanmohamed2759]

great information ,please share with us tge cost ans profitt of keeping broilers

[@kaiffaroberts6829]

Thanks for the video. I totally agree with you on those stats. I run a layer poultry farm in Liberia(west Africa)where the cost of all items you have mentioned is times 3. Cost of production is very high. A farmer will definitely incurred losses if he/she will rely on commercial feed to run a poultry farm. To all farmers and intending farmers. Learn to mix your own feed!!

[@juliuskushitor7728]

Great analysis. Wonderful eye-opener. Thanks. We need such detailed calculations. God bless.

[@alexkabeho5609]

I think the two workers can look after 10k layers as well But no matter what numbers ,you have given us something to think about Thank you

[@Homerangepoultry]

No way 2 workers can look after 10k chicken on a deep litter system. That's humanly not possible unless if you have invested in a fully automated system which will cost you millions....and ofcourse that will come with other related additional costs that will make the venture not viable.

[@alexkabeho5609]

@@Homerangepoultry true, thank you 🙏

[@marvinkihara2324]

Most farmers don’t factor in the cost drinking water, labor that they offer themselves and maintaining cleanliness in the chicken houses (buying wood shaving). This is a very informative video. Thank you for sharing it

[@Homerangepoultry]

Thank you for watching @marvinkihara2324

[@wayando]

Very good information for planning and decision making. Thanks.

[@danielmaina4942]

The value provided in this video! I've subscribed immediately!

[@danielmaina4942]

what! I was planning to get into layer farming but 500 for a bird after all that time! I might need to re-assess...

[@Homerangepoultry]

Thank you Daniel for your feedback. We aim to always provide videos that are informative to help you make informed decisions.

[@conversationovertea7457]

You're amazing.the video is very enlightening. What if you do brooding only! Then sell the chick at 3 months. Please consider doing a video brooding only.

[@nyamasyosila3742]

Fear only activates the enemy!start layer farm NOW!you won't regret

[@Homerangepoultry]

Please do share with everyone the financials on cost of production and sales to enable people make an informed decision. This is the goal of this video.

[@simonmithamo6688]

An eye opener, I was planning to start, but with this, I need to re-plan.

[@Homerangepoultry]

Please do some proper market research to determine selling prices and the actual cost of production before spending your hard-earned money in the name of investing in layers chicken.

[@SoneRobertsonSone-oy1sm]

Thanks for the infos, with all motion to start one ,I need to replan. So what do you suggest is best now between layers and broo?

[@Homerangepoultry]

Our recommendation is for one to conduct a through analysis of the income and expenses flow before venturing into any farming business. Invest where returns for your money are guaranteed instead of being another victim of agribusiness!

[@felixsunga7059]

Good work very educative you should remix the video of the cost of rearing of 200 chicken in 2023 may God bless your work

[@Homerangepoultry]

Thank you Felix. That's a good idea. We will work on it

[@paulmaina3133]

what if one makes his own feeds?plus also factor in the sell of price of manure of the said birds.

[@Homerangepoultry]

Hello. Unfortunately it is not possible to formulate high quality feeds for layers as the main components i.e. Protein concentrate is not easily available to the local farmer and also the price is high. This is the reason why feeds formulated for layers breed are expensive.

[@onyecollins]

In business, there what we call break-even. Remember this analysis was done with 1000 layers.

[@chiedzavgwandanda5746]

quite eye opening this 😍🥰

[@Homerangepoultry]

Thank you. We are glad you have learnt something from the video.

[@hassanmohamed2759]

please give us the cost of running a broiler

[@elizabethbucha3749]

How 50 lb bags of feed to feed 1000 layer at 16 weeks please

[@georgeochieng6625]

Good one ❤❤❤

[@Homerangepoultry]

Thank you George!

[@pkngeny]

You have just broken my spirit. I wanted to start next month. The house is ready for brooding chicks

[@Homerangepoultry]

Don't be discouraged. Find a way to cut down on your cost of production and maximising the sale price for the eggs and that can earn you a profit. For instance, consider value addition of the eggs to increase the selling price. But before proceeding, please do some proper market research to determine selling prices and the actual cost of production before spending your hard-earned money in the name of investing in layers chicken.

[@StephenMusyoki-oz4nk]

Continue bro . This guy is misleading

[@conversationovertea7457]

​@@StephenMusyoki-oz4nkyou're either dumb , very illiterate or you did not watch the video.

[@Aletastewartpalmer9164]

Not sure you are right 😊

[@roalexmediaproductions673]

What's your recommendation then? To avoid rearing layers and turn to broilers?

[@Homerangepoultry]

Our recommendation is for one to conduct a through analysis of the income and expenses flow before venturing into any farming business. Invest where returns for your money are guaranteed instead of being another victim of agribusiness!

[@eminent2494]

I want to sell my layers they are six months of age , reason I don’t have money to continue feeding them and I was introduced to the business newly and am tired help me find buyer

[@abdifatahabdullahi3692]

What if I am in a rural area where a tray of eggs goes for 500 kenya shillings

[@Homerangepoultry]

If the selling price is higher than the production price per tray, this is a good market.

[@ceciliaaryeetey290]

Reality, yet why are people still involve in poultry? There sure should be some profit in this venture

[@Homerangepoultry]

Yes there are profits in poultry once you learn afew strategies that enable you to reduce your costs of doing business. We have been in it for over 10 years now and yes it's truly profitable for sure...But only if you are willing to do the hard work to cut down your costs...by for example producing your own feeds and selling directly to consumers

[@brianotienotruimp]

@@Homerangepoultry we need to talk. am willing to pay a small token as consultation fee. How do I reach you?

[@clementtamatey2241]

Pls dont discourage people layer farming is lucrative im a teacher in ghana and if not for layer farming i dont knw what could have become of me

[@Homerangepoultry]

Hello Clement. The video has outlined the situation in Kenya. We are not familiar with the status of layers farming in Ghana but of importance is that farmers make informed choices that will ensure they are not running into losses. It would be wrong and misleading if we use our channel to encourage people to venture into a business that will lead them to losses.

[@JJ-hw8ob]

The cost of layering is based on kenya , this not the same to other countries.

[@Homerangepoultry]

Happy to hear that. The situation in Kenya with regard to layers though isn't good at all and improvements on the retail prices need to be done so that layer farmers can make money.

[@Homerangepoultry]

Yes the context here is on Kenya @@JJ-hw8ob

[@ThePundit99]

@@Homerangepoultry you are assuming that everyone is doing things your way, which is very misleading.

[@kephaotieno8904]

Where are the eggs coming from if the farmers are only making loses, why haven't they stopped, explain this please, I need to understand.

[@Homerangepoultry]

Eggs in Kenya are majority imported from Uganda. The few that are produced locally come from DIFFERENT farmers. Each day, a new uninformed farmer is jumping into keeping the layers because they know there is demand. Yes demand is there because this is food, but no farmer makes money. This is why you find no company in Kenya has established itself as an egg producing company despite there being demand. It's unfortunate that we have built a system where new farmers are hooked into losses and once they do, they exit, and a new farmer comes in and suffers the same. Unless if it's money laundering, no exclusive layers farmer exists in Kenya or has been doing it for years and years. Most do only 1 or 2 batches and they suffer losses and close. It's a very sad state of affairs.

[@kephaotieno8904]

@@Homerangepoultry This is a very big lie coming from a content creator

[@Homerangepoultry]

@@kephaotieno8904 Please feel free to share with us a breakdown of your numbers as well Kepha. We have shared a very clear breakdown as contained in the video. We are always happy to be challenged but not with mere words but with facts and numbers. Numbers don't lie, only people do. Please do share with us a breakdown of your production costs and sale numbers via our email [e-mail] and we will be happy to review our content based on facts and numbers. We eagerly await your feedback. Thank you

[@monicamuturi5195]

Good question I want to know why people are still in this business

[@super-z8943]

This video does not even consider BIRD FLU!

[@abdifatahabdullahi3692]

The content creator wants us to leave the market for him

[@Homerangepoultry]

The consumption market for eggs and meat is soooo large that no one person, company or even government institution can ever meet the demand. The market is large enough for everyone including yourself. The goal of our videos is to educate people so they know how to do poultry farming in a profitable way. That is why we share numbers and not emotions or hearsay from other people or sources.

[@DanielMangongo-r8z]

And mark you you've not factored in the labour

[@obeddmaringa3002]

This is misleading, his costing g is not logical, why use layers feed cost during growing period.

[@super-z8943]

What will you feed during growing period? Who will pay for it?

[@AliAli-o7f8j]

This information is misleading

[@Homerangepoultry]

Hello Ali. Please clarify which information provided is inaccurate. The numbers outlined speak for themselves. The truth is often hard for many to accept especially when the truth goes against the norm. Everyone rushes to keep layers without doing proper financial analysis and market research. This video makes a daring attempt to put into light all the aspects of production of layers chicken.

[@AliAli-o7f8j]

@@Homerangepoultry If I have 10,000 layer chickens and 8,000 of them lay eggs every day, resulting in 8000 eggs daily or 266 crates daily, and I sell each crate for Sh400, this totals Sh104,400 per day, Sh3,192,000 per month, and Sh38,304,000 per year. Please explain how you make a loss.

[@Homerangepoultry]

​@@AliAli-o7f8j Very good question. We will now illustrate how you will make a LOSS of Kshs. 11, 263,306 from your 10,000 layers giving you 8,000 eggs per day. PART 1: ANALYSIS OF EXPENSES A) Cost of Chicks: The cost of purchasing chicks is 10,000 x Kshs. 130 per chick = Kshs. 1,300,000/- B) What is the Cost of rearing your 10,000 layers from Day old chick to 4.5 Months when they start laying eggs: =(((15+160)/2)/1000) Kgs/day X 30 days X 4.5 Months x 10,000 Layers Total = 118,125 kgs of feed is consumed from Day 1 - 4.5 Months by your 10,000 layers. Cost of this feed = 118,125 Kgs x Kshs. 71 / Kg = Kshs. 8,386,875 TOTAL COST OF FEED CONSUMED (Day 1 - 4.5 Months) = Kshs. 8,386,875/- C) Cost of Vaccines, Antibiotics & Multivitamins from Day 1 - 4.5 Months (Miscellaneous Cost): This will be 15% of Cost of Feeding = (15/100) x 8,386,875 Thus, MISCELLANEOUS COST TOTAL is Kshs. 1,258,031/- Thus, TOTAL COST OF PRODUCTION FROM DAY 1 - 4.5 MONTHS is: Cost of Chicks - Kshs. 1,300,000 Feeding - Kshs. 8,386,875 Miscellaneous - Kshs. 1,258,031 TOTAL COST - Kshs. 10,944,906 D) Cost of Production From 4.5 Months onwards for 12 More months of egg production: i) Feeding Cost (4.5 Months to 16.5 Months): =(160/1000) Kgs / day x 30 Days x 10,000 Layers x 12 Months = 576,000 Kg of Feed Cost of this feed is: = 576,000 kgs X Kshs. 66/Kg (Cost of Layers mash) = Kshs. 38,016,000 ii) Miscellaneous Cost (Vaccines, Antibiotics, Multivitamins) for production duration of 4.5 Months to 16.5 Months: = 15% X 38,016,000 Total miscellaneous Cost = Kshs. 5,702,400 GRAND TOTAL COST OF PRODUCTION FOR THE ENTIRE LIFE CYCLE OF THE 10,000 LAYERS (FROM DAY 1 - 16.5 MONTHS) is thus the costs of A+B+C+D above, thus KSHS. 54,663,306 PART 2: ANALYSIS OF INCOME What is the total income that will be realized with this flock of 10,000 layers: A) Sale of Eggs: 8,000 eggs / day X 30 days X 12 Months = 2,880,000 eggs = 2,880,000 / 30 eggs = 96,000 Trays of eggs Sale of the eggs = 96,000 trays X Kshs. 400 per tray TOTAL INCOME FROM SALE OF EGGS = Kshs. 38,400,000/- B) Sale of Ex-layers: 10,000 exlayers X Kshs. 500 per chicken = Kshs. 5,000,000 thus GRAND TOTAL INCOME is A+B = Kshs. 38,400,000 + Kshs, 5,000,000 = KSHS. 43,400,000 THUS, to determine if you made a PROFIT or A LOSS, simply subtract your expenses from your income = Income - Expenses = Kshs. 43,400,000 - Kshs. 54,663,306 = -Kshs. 11,263,306/- (LOSS) From keeping your 10,000 layers and having 8,000 layers laying daily and then selling each tray of eggs for Kshs. 400, you will realize a healthy LOSS OF KSHS. 11,263,306. 😎 Any other question sir?

[@AliAli-o7f8j]

@Homerangepoultry We operate a poultry farm in Athi River, specialising in Cobb broilers for which we import parental stock from Holland. Our chickens are nourished with black soldiers as a protein and crushed maize only. If you're interested, we invite you to visit us, but you'll need to adhere to our strict biosecurity measures, including taking a shower at our entry gates.

[@Homerangepoultry]

@@AliAli-o7f8j Thank you very much Ali for the information and the invite. We truly appreciate it. Strict biosafety standards like you have outlined are key in preventing spread of diseases around the poultry farm. Please share your contact with us via our contact 0727200116 or email [e-mail]. Thank you and we look forward to further interactions with you.