Why Landback Movement Is Actually A Great Idea

[@DonJorgeRM]

One of the most important issues that the USG fails to recognize. Land Back now, Reparations now.

[@queerbrownvegan]

Yeah, they continue doing so many wrongs and they have to continue to recognize that Indigenous sovereignty is key to saving our planet.

[@queerbrownvegan]

You do know Indigenous communities and tribal nations exist? You are writing as if they are gone. Past tense signifies erasure when they are here today and have been telling us about settler colonialism

[@bryantroyer8008]

No and no. Get a job. Buy your own land.

[@ambrosewilliams1897]

Hello, I'm Native American, specifically White Mountain Apache, from the Fort Apache Indian Reservation. I think what landback for my tribe, since we are already on our ancestral lands, would be removing invasive plants and animals. Another would be restoring our native species and aiding other indigenous peoples and communities. Thirdly would be land and water rights. Land rights would be housing, forestry, commercial, business, and hunting/foraging lands, etc. Water rights would be, access to clean drinking water and, sewage management, and fishing/farming, etc. Lastly landback is mostly indigenous focused but contains a bit of everything within. It contains decolonization, land repatriation/stewardship, cultural ties, indigenous spirituality, indigenous expression, and freedom for an Indigenous worldview. Currently, any marginalized indigenous people as a whole are still in survival mode, and it is made worse with climate change, racism, and settler colonialism that hasn't gone away. To me personally, landback is our way of saying that we are not the white settlers who stole the lands we belong to still. Landback means many things and to me it also means indigenous people will no longer be the supporting characters to white/non-indigenous people. It is to say to non-indigenous allies that you cannot truly be our ally and still continue to be our colonizer. I took a look at the comments section and saw deflection and victim blaming. I do not have the time or energy to bother them but i can say this. It will come down to this, that either stealing land from indigenous people is moral or not. If it is, why would the Indigenous People start the landback movement in the first place? If it is not, do not be surprised "when" land is given back to indigenous peoples. This barely even touches the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the landback movement. There is more to say but this comment is long enough. Thank you and take care.

[@queerbrownvegan]

Absolutely! This video is not a means of an end all be all definition and different tribal communities have different theories of change and definitions of landback that are continuing to expand itself in liberation. This was more of an introduction for people who may not be aware of the term or even wanting to engage in this subject. Many Indigenous scholars have written about it in their research and books. Thank you for sharing!

[@ts-wo6pp]

Not a second of grounded materialist analysis in this whole video. Whatever suits you man, hope you get some good speaking engagements or consulting positions or whatever you're angling for.

[@queerbrownvegan]

Indigenous people have gone through genocide, it's been well-documented. If you are referring to yourself as a revisionist, perhaps you may want to ask a teacher about where your conclusion comes from.

[@ts-wo6pp]

@@queerbrownveganThanks for the reply. I am aware of the (ongoing) genocide of american indians. I don't deny history, i dont deny my family history (and i don't appreciate you insinuating i do, but i won't dwell on it). all my grandfather knows about his heritage is that both his parents checked 'indian' on the census and were originally from maine, but beyond that, the centuries of repression stripped away any sense of history -- i recognize that as genocide. and informed by that**, i can understand the urgency of the development of a coherent liberatory line for american indians and indian nations. that's what you and 'landback' purport to do, but all you really offer is absolution of sin and individual enrichment. this can't possibly lead to liberation, in the same way that church charity couldn't have possibly ended the european feudal order. its empty moralization, it's a waste of energy, it's a diversion. that's why i don't respect it. Have a wonderful day. i wish you success in whatever you do. \** I don't want to overstate it -- i don't myself identify as indian or indigenous.

[@ts-wo6pp]

@@queerbrownvegan hey man if you're gonna filter my response out, don't keep your comment alleging that I'm a genocide Denier up. Borderline slanderous id say

[@stormysmurf]

@@queerbrownvegan Indigenous people committed genocide. You're not special.

[@SkyeID]

I'm speaking from the perspective of someone living in North America, who's ancestors were African and Indigenous: white people literally came over to this continent with millions of people already living on it, and said, "oh, this is my land now." Is it strange that Indigenous people want their land back?

[@stormysmurf]

Do you think white man invented invade and conquer?

[@Deutritium93]

Yes, and every “original” indigenous tribe in North America migrated over from Asia across the land bridge that once connected Alaska to far eastern Russia. Over time, said tribes of indigenous peoples fought countless battles against each other, enslaving the ones who lost through genocide, starvation, etc. There is colossal archeological evidence of this happening over the millennia across North and South America. White Europeans and Caucasians did not invent the idea of conquest, enslaving people, or even invasion, and they certainly weren’t the only ones doing it either. The idea behind reparations is just silly and will get us nowhere, as if traced back far enough, you will find that every single person or group is guilty of all the above-mentioned things at one point or another.

[@miles_quartz]

The only critique I have of the video is that I would like a more in-depth description of what land back would actually look like. I think I understand it to an extent, but I don't know how to fully visualize what true justice for Indigenous people looks like. I'm sorry for all of the ignorant comments... :( It's so frustrating seeing people being so openly bigoted and unwilling to learn. I'm going to keep reading about land back, over all, great video! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🍉

[@Bpbsmith]

I absolutely agree! I believe the landback movement is a very interesting concept and I find it necessary to give some kind of recognition to the Native people but I really haven't found any content that has actually laid out a foundation for how it would happen.

[@queerbrownvegan]

Thank you for this and I agree that it must be longer, this was more of a simple definition for starters, however, many Indigenous communities have gone in depth with these conversations. I am hoping to work with a friend soon around Landback movement :)

[@BriefHorrors]

You are right, when people hear the term they obviously think it implies giving up land. If this is not the sole purpose of the movement, why not change the name? From the top of my head, "Rebuild the Indigenous" for example is more encompassing to the goals you outlined in the video and you don't have to spend 90% of the time explaining to people that the name of the movement is not what they think it means given the name of the movement.

[@igrowmedicaltopshelf]

This is mentally challenging how would persons now be held accountable for something they had nothing to do with ,this is crazy compared to world history as any human with eyes im completely lost in your explanations you sound insane

[@deemushroomguy]

Yeah, land black. Terra preta. The "movement" is the human waste tied up in the activated, aged biochar. It's ancient technology, actually...

[@griffinnagy4505]

By typing this i do not mean to spread hate or trigger anyone. Did deplorable acts happen to the native communities of the continental United States as well as Alaska and Hawaii? Yes. Should the US government, in some form, give reparations to the native communities? Yes. Is land back the way to go? Maybe not. Who decides how much land to give back? And where? And when? Ive seen some argue for treaties of the mid 1800s, calling for the restoration of “The Great Reservation”, however several cities and populated areas exist on that land now, stolen or not. A return to the native communities would create a refugee crisis. Another problem is the issue of what land to give back. Many of the eastern natives were forcibly moved from the land on the coast, Appalachians, in state, etc and continuously moved west, with many fleeing to Canada in the process. My point being that many of the native tribes existing in the west arent native to the west. Some of these refugee tribes represent a majority over tribes actually native to the west. So do we give them back land in the east coast and forcibly move them, repeating the acts seen over the 1800s? Or do we give the land to a majority tribe who is not native to the land, in a way partially mirroring what settlers had done to the natives? Land back may or may not be the morally right thing to do, however with a country this diverse and this populated, it would have problems holding up.

[@BaileyWillson]

So which tribe are we giving the land back to? They continually conquered each others lands, so who do we trace it back to? Which tribe gets the cash?

[@Cpt.Phenom]

Understand that this has nothing to do with the principle of unfairly acquired land. It's racist identity politics with places white people as the ultimate evil. That's why it's conquered land when natives defeat natives, but it becomes "stolen" land when evil white people do the same thing. The point isn't to solution and togetherness, the point is to further divide us so as to continue grievances forever against one group labeled as "oppressor"-in this case-being dirty white colonizers, even though no one alive today did any colonizing and are largely descendants of other people who didn't colonize and simply came here for a better life.

[@queerbrownvegan]

You can google who's Indigenous land you stand on first and know many tribal organizations have operating orgs

[@Cpt.Phenom]

Understand that this has nothing to do with the principle of unfairly acquired land. It's racist identity politics which places white people as the ultimate evil. That's why it's 'conquered' land when natives defeat natives, but it becomes "stolen" land when evil white people do the same thing. The point here isn't actually to reach a solution and find togetherness, the point is to further divide us so as to continue grievances forever against one group labeled as "oppressor"-in this case-being dirty white colonizers, even though no one alive today did any colonizing and are largely descendants of other people who didn't colonize, but instead, simply came here for a better life. People like this thrive off hate and division and they TELL you this when they admit that nothing will ever be enough, check it @ 0:43. They don't know how to exist without having someone to hate for the sake of unresolvable 'justice.'

[@Cpt.Phenom]

Understand that this has nothing to do with the principle of unfairly acquired land. It's racist identity politics which places white people as the ultimate evil. That's why it's 'conquered' land when natives defeat natives, but it becomes "stolen" land when evil white people do the same thing. The point here isn't actually to reach a solution and find togetherness, the point is to further divide us so as to continue grievances forever against one group labeled as "oppressor"-in this case-being dirty white colonizers, even though no one alive today did any colonizing and are largely descendants of other people who didn't colonize, but instead, simply came here for a better life. People like this thrive off hate and division and they TELL you this when they admit that nothing will ever be enough, check it @ 0:43. They don't know how to exist without having someone to hate for the sake of unresolvable 'justice.'

[@stormysmurf]

​@@queerbrownveganAre we going to do this for all conquered peoples? My people were enslaved for 1000s of years on Siciliy.... And what about the people of Tibet who are being conquered right now? Let's all go and ask Islam to give back all the countries it conquered, see how that goes. Last I checked some Islamic countries are still throwing gay people off buildings (last I heard was about 6 months ago) and Hamas killing a top commander for suspecting him of being gay.

[@orangesun3030]

I live next to a reservation and I see how well the land is taken care of.

[@queerbrownvegan]

Exactly why it’s important to learn from Indigenous communities 🙏🏽

[@IdeayJP24]

Latinos, especially the brown ones, are indigenous too. But native to other areas of the Americas.

[@steven530x]

I don't know why this channel was recommended to me. I will NOT support a channel built upon identity politics that pushes a victim mentality.

[@queerbrownvegan]

Based on algorithm designs, it's probably because you comment on videos like this with people who make political commentary that make you uncomfortable lol

[@rwjscaper]

Yeah, nothing homie says in this video is remotely true. If you get recommended this video know that it's propaganda.

[@sebastianmesler8594]

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[@sebastianmesler8594]

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[@queerbrownvegan]

It's actually history, but go off king, you won?

[@rwjscaper]

@@queerbrownvegan I mean yeah, of course I won, reality reflects this. Most indigenous people would have died to the diseases their immune systems were untirely unprepared for. It sucks, and just "blaming the mean white man" is an easy way to make yourself feel better, but it's not historical at all.

[@queerbrownvegan]

Settler colonialism brought diseases towards Indigenous communities. Settlers starving Indigenous communities and decimating their local food sources caused high rates of deaths. Landback is essential and have a good day - learn some more history

[@jkiker7918]

Are you giving up your house first?

[@queerbrownvegan]

No such thing as owning property on stolen land.

[@thekilla2885]

Always gonna be a smart ass on vids like this. @@queerbrownvegan

[@Michael-io6db]

He doesn't have a house

[@RJ-fz9sp]

@@queerbrownveganconquered land is not stolen.

[@bryantroyer8008]

Yes there is. You must not be real familiar with reality. Look around you. The land that you consider stolen( doesn't make it so) is owned​@@queerbrownvegan

[@paolaorellana2375]

Thank you for sharing

[@queerbrownvegan]

Thank you for watching!

[@CalyxtheGnome]

What natives ? The old ones that refused to assimilate or the new ones that are born here since then on ?? Even white americans born in the usa are by a technicality america natives.. an elder on youtube even said it himself.

[@DuncanHarbison]

I think it's such an important topic and something a lot more people should think about but also what people think of when you say landback varies a lot depending on where you are. I saw a hoodie online that said "Landback" on it and the design was really nice and I thought if it's a fundraiser for something maybe I'd get one, then I realised a white person in the uk with a hoodie that says "landback" would be something worn by the far-right anti-refugee people who keep talking about "take our country back"

[@queerbrownvegan]

Thanks for this point and I try to always reference Landback movement led by Indigenous communities in North America as it may have different contexts and meanings in other countries. It's so important to note how language changes per landscape - so thank you for this!

[@Michael-io6db]

Actually it's the same thing. Whether you advocate land back to aboriginal people in north America, or a white person wears a landback hoodie in the uk, you're both making a blood and soil argument. You're both claiming people belonging to the original ethnic group are the primary or only legitimate inhabitants of the land. Land legitimacy in both contexts is tied to one's blood. I think you guys on the left making claims that non-indigenous people are just guests or worse thieves in North America, have adopted a perspective far more similar to white ethno-nationalists than you realize

[@monlovchel]

@@Michael-io6db so true, people do not realize political ideology is a circle not a straight line. Go too far left you end up just like the far right, and vice versa. BOTH are equally wrong.

[@sustainareader214]

Thank you for this video!! Appreciated the comment on presenting as a visitor on native land. ❤

[@queerbrownvegan]

Thank you so much for watching! And language + framing is so important for us to continue to learn - I appreciate you! :)

[@Idesofmarz]

Who are you giving land back to? You realize the Native Americans were killing, raping and pillaging each other before the Europeans came? Do you realize when the US was still Colonies the Native Americans were forming alliances with the English, French and Spanish to screw each other over? They are already US citizens with their right to acquire land in the US. This is just as idiotic as the Jews claiming Israel as theirs because some Jew lived there 4,000 years ago. Honestly, quit this divisive identity politics garbage @@queerbrownvegan

[@georgecuyler7563]

Do a video of you and your people, you said you were displaced and landless. Are you Indigenous from your country?

[@queerbrownvegan]

Let me open up a book of colonization and ask my ancestors one sec 📞

[@themainmanborah]

Keep coping.

[@queerbrownvegan]

Keep boosting my content - thank you

[@erikdexter3100]

The time and energy wasted on ideas to get stuff for free is amazing …you are not getting the land back

[@queerbrownvegan]

Acknowledging how the US government has drained trillions of dollars from also Global South countries. It's history, not thought-up stories.

[@erikdexter3100]

@@queerbrownvegan show me this history …all i see is global south sucking the us dry …but you seem to have all the virtu signals i think your life would be empty without the signaling

[@Null_Simplex]

Good luck with your videos.

[@queerbrownvegan]

Thanks

[@jeffschroeder4805]

Wouldn't initiating substantial land back programs require the support of Republicans? Haven't they been somewhat reluctant to acknowledge that our country has committed any past injustices. I see substantial fines and possible imprisonment for proposing such programs in our Red states.

[@queerbrownvegan]

Yes and no, in terms of specific areas, when they can become community-based programs or even within local governmental policies to help communities, especially if there are ways for all communities to benefit. With the rise of banning intersectionality and DEI in other states, we have to remember that tribal nations have their outside democracy so we need allies from all ends to help contribute or try to create a system outside the one to help them have funds.

[@jericho86]

Republicans don't believe in blood guilt. No one alive today is responsible for the actions of past generations.

[@ThomasCampbell-d7n]

Hernandez, aw a nice Germanic boy How about you give indigenous people their land back?

[@queerbrownvegan]

It's a collective movement

[@ThomasCampbell-d7n]

@@queerbrownvegan What land are you talking about and who are we giving it back to? Are you talking about kicking the Spanish out of Mexico? Or do you want to claim the old Chumash and Piute lands for the descendants of Maya and Aztec? I mean the OP has a Germanic surname FFS, that's another thing that's a bit problematic It seems like Hispanic, Spanish speaking Catholics think that they are indigenous just because aren't Anglos I'm not trying to be rude Im just trying to clarify

[@stormysmurf]

​​@@ThomasCampbell-d7nHilarious. If you've actually read Native American historical documents recorded from Native oral linguistic literature you will find all kinds of white man behavior, for instance: two tribes who had long hated each other entered a war leaving one tribe almost completely killed off, with a handful escaping to a small island near the Great Lakes. Their enemies pursued them so fervently, they waited for the weather to be right to get on the island and then went and finished the job. And thats when all the Indians held hands and sang kumbaya. I made that last part up but hey, everyone's romanticizing NA Natives these days...

[@hazeyvenus569]

❤

[@ismailgunacar7434]

they lost their sovereignty when imperial US conquered them…

[@thekilla2885]

When the "migrants" coming here out number you then "conquer " you..then what you gonna say?

[@queerbrownvegan]

Indigenous communities still exist today and it’s acknowledged in US history of the genocide the US Gov committed

[@oasisline6415]

As a native, we lost bro 😂 I’m not supporting genocide but war is war

[@AstroVanTribe]

@@queerbrownvegan If they're here then there wasn't a genocide....

[@jbullock1878]

HA! If you cannot give us land give us money! Makes senes bottom line give us money or we will guilt trip you until you give us money. How about we just say- bud, ya lost, conquered. That is as old as time....

[@queerbrownvegan]

Land back has been happening 😎

[@stormysmurf]

Its true. And people behave like Europeans invented Imvade and conquer. They recently did DNA analysis on "indigenous" populations that survived the virus near where Columbus first landed on the mainland and found that those peoples DNA showed signs of a genocide happening as they were found to have come originally from South America. Native Americans spent foreverg fighting and killing each other for the same thing Europeans fought over: land and resources. Europeans are the first peoples period, to have abolished slavery. White guilt is apparently quite valuable to these people and there's a reason people in the old world don't behave like this. If the conquered peoples of the world guilt tripped who conquered them, they'd simply kill them.

[@elgrifolorian]

💯

[@Abx_Dkl]

20 secs and such a woke guy.. gave save u ...

[@queerbrownvegan]

History isn’t woke it’s the truth.

[@Abx_Dkl]

@@queerbrownvegan when home sapeins are giving land back to neanderthals, when muslims giving land back to chistians and jews and they to hindus ???? Pick up something activist agenda to make a life of it .. i agree just like Greta made a life out of stupid agenda and wrecking havoc in developing countries... the guys u will pull down with u .. i pity them...

[@djack1170]

Sucks to suck stay concerned nerds 😂😂😂

[@queerbrownvegan]

History is honesty and justice.

[@jhanneu]

Such an important topic!

[@queerbrownvegan]

Thank you so much :)

[@cr144mc6]

Lol your delusional 😂

[@queerbrownvegan]

History isn’t delusional, denial is delusion. So thank you for describing yourself

[@alfredwotanson7971]

Lol

[@queerbrownvegan]

lol