Why LGBT is illegal in our country?

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Timestamps:
0:00 - Why?
3:47 - Is it really a big deal?
5:02 - Putin is trying to get the points
Filmed by Maxim.
Edited by Daniil Orain.
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[@timor64]

This is really interesting. People who remember Soviet times can see the playbook. They are certainly not "LGBT Allies" but they can see what the State is doing.

[@Kolovrat55514]

in the 20s, the USSR was the most depraved country with gays, lesbians and free sex (“a glass of water”) A terrifying experiment to destroy culture on humans

[@Kolovrat55514]

Done by jewish marxists bolshevics against white European Russians

[@charleskramer7062]

Agreed. The older respondents seemed much more aware -- and tolerant of those who were not like them.

[@davidlinehat4657]

@@leoa1893what now?

[@RealUlrichLeland]

The soviet Union went through different phases with it's attitude to LGBT people. Lenin decriminalised it all the way back in 1917 but then Stalin persecuted them very harshly and the laws only began to relax in the Glasnost era. The older people here are probably not surprised by this change in the law because the Russian state has been going back and forth on this issue for all their life.

[@LucasDimoveo]

When even the traditional values people are nervous you know shit has gotten out of hand

[@dw620]

What are "traditional values" in Russia? There was a tradition (literally thousands) of gay neonazis in Moscow despite Putin now declaring both categories to only exist in other countries. -> Vice interview, 2013: "In the group I'm in, there are about 1,500 to 1,700 other permanent members in Moscow or nearby areas. Then there are other communities of gay nationalists scattered all over Moscow-there's a GASH group in each area."

[@LucasDimoveo]

@@dw620 Traditional values is a post modern concept. The modes of being prior to the industrial revolution are gone. Trying to resurrect them will only cause pain

[@ozd6603]

Закон о запрете ЛГБТ направлен в первую очередь на организации, связанные с ЛГБТ, так как они проявляют экстремистскую и подрывную деятельность по отношению к России, особенно при спонсировании из стран Запада. Никто не трогает ЛГБТ персон, e6итесь как хотите, главное не показывайте свою натуру на людях, спасибо

[@wenterinfaer1656]

​@@ozd6603 а если дочь Путина платит налоги на Западе, то она тоже спонсирует ЛГБТ?

[@JasonFraker-ew1nm]

@ LucasDimoveo I get your point it shouldn't be in anyone's hand or mind, but the consented, and until the people of the R.F. quit generalizing their hang up on this matter it will only progressively continue and escalate even more out of hand.✌👌👍

[@JG-ib7xk]

They always say "they don't need to do it in public" like they think gay people are just having sex in the street

[@jacqueline6993]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@HubertofLiege]

Have you been to America?

[@jacqueline6993]

@@HubertofLiege Jamais! J’ai simplement mon avis de Française qui appartient au camp de ceux qui soutiennent les LGBTQ…car il y a aussi en France des anti LGBT…paix à leur âme.!!!

[@STJukes]

But things like holding hands in public would not be accepted in Russia. So it is still a nasty restriction.

[@bigzclipz5104]

They don’t want to become like America.

[@anydroid]

It’s interesting that some of the oldest interviewees are more relaxed and tolerant than the 50-65s - who seem to be a restless demographic in lots of countries.

[@christophervishy8273]

Ikr the 78 year old was so chill

[@Nun195]

Passed conscription age.

[@Myx_wieczorem]

I guess that's when most people are conformists - old enough to have their dreams crushed and be disappointed by life but not old enough to actually stop caring about what others say about them

[@annakatarzyna9207]

Funny how some of them talk about family values but Russia is 3rd country in the world with highest divorce rate. Poland is on 77th place. What happened to family values then??

[@nobbynobbs8182]

Even their dictator doesn't follows the "traditional values" he preachers

[@annakatarzyna9207]

​@@nobbynobbs8182..exactly!

[@ShieldToad-mk2rp]

The choice to call it family values is also very political. It implies that if you are in favour of gay rights that you are anti-family

[@crushingvanessa3277]

They are always worried about the kids, meanwhile nothing is said about the kids being made to play army.

[@felixforster9614]

there is quite a lot being said to be fair mate

[@Galaxzier]

Как же отлично работает пропаганда. Только пару лет назад такого понятия как «традиционные ценности» просто не существовало в инфополе, теперь только об этих ценностях и говорят

[@user-oi7mo6xk4w]

ну наша пропаганда и в пометку с пропагандой сша не идет, когда у нас ток по телеку и время от времени где-нибудь в сети, то в америке франшиза видеоигр, фильмов и другого развлекательного медиа про сражения русских собирают миллиарды, и не только в штатах. у нас максимум мультик где показывают смекалочку русского князя и все

[@lawrencemitchell5983]

​@@user-oi7mo6xk4wЯ с уважением не согласен. Россия воздвигает новые статуи Сталина.....в своем нынешнем формате Российская Федерация в некоторой степени обречена. Тем не менее, наилучшие пожелания людям во всем мире и счастливого Рождества из США.

[@choosenundead4428]

​@@lawrencemitchell5983обречена на что?

[@user-qi7gj4nc1e]

@@choosenundead4428 на всё то, на что обречены все фашисткие режимы - одебилить от обидки, милитаризма, шовиннизма, построить тираническую, элитаристкую, социал-дарвинисткую скотоублюдию, а потом и в суицидальную войну ввязаться, путлерстан, благо, уже на последнем этапе

[@user-tz6vf8to5f]

на успех, счастье и богатство. Может в разное время, но все будет@@choosenundead4428

[@vulgar_scabby_beaver]

Organization? Is there a membership card?

[@egribanov]

I accept you into the gay organization 🎉. I appoint you as a senior gay man. You don't have to thank me

[@vulgar_scabby_beaver]

@@egribanov I'll thank you when you're secure enough in your own sexuality to know that being called gay is not an insult....I have a feeling it will be quite a wait.

[@JasonFraker-ew1nm]

Droll you are.

[@vulgar_scabby_beaver]

@@JasonFraker-ew1nm English I am, in the genes it is.

[@JasonFraker-ew1nm]

Yeah I recognize it, I'll grant ya.

[@seanbrennan9188]

Does this mean Solovyov's son can travel back to spend Christmas with daddy ?

[@telebubba5527]

He always can do that. But whether it's a healthy decision is a different matter.

[@hizzlemobizzle]

The most important thing to remember is that we must work diligently to come up with solutions for problems that do not exist.

[@froodtube]

It is a time honored strategy. If you create a problem that only you can fix, you are the savior. Putin has to convince Russians he is their savior of traditional values. The evil West is trying to invade Russia, steal all their resources (which pretty much only Putin and 600 Russians currently own, so how would that even be robbing the Russian people?.. its already stolen from them 😂), and of course the West is going to immediately force all Russians to have mandatory sex change operations. Only Putin can save the Russian people from this fate! He will create a Russia where everyone can wear traditional dress, have 8 babies, and dance Russian folk dances all day! Paradise! Trump does the same with "MAGA" Create a fictitious undefined state so people can envision their own ideal society in their own head, and then associate that with Trump. Only Trump can lead us to paradise. Funny part is if you actually question Trump or a Trump supporter, "What year in the past is the primary year you are trying to bring America back to. By your definition, when was America Great?" They can't actually identify any year, and if they do and you point out the ills at that time they just get mad and start spewing slogans.

[@ozd6603]

Закон о запрете ЛГБТ направлен в первую очередь на организации, связанные с ЛГБТ, так как они проявляют экстремистскую и подрывную деятельность по отношению к России, особенно при спонсировании из стран Запада. Никто не трогает ЛГБТ персон, e6итесь как хотите, главное не показывайте свою натуру на людях, спасибо

[@runrig97]

​@@ozd6603if you think holding hands is extremist and subversive, you need to mind your own business.

[@JasonFraker-ew1nm]

Problems that do not exist? Are you referring to people being framed? Or? Because if they don't exist, then you wouldn't have to work diligently for a solution that don't exist.

[@LittleBodyBigSoul]

​@@ozd6603Публично не показывать свою любовь - должно относиться ко всем видам пар в России, но почему-то только гетеро пары в России гуляют за руку и иногда даже могут сосаться на улице при всех. Не надо к этому так относится, типо иметь какое-то специальное отношение "ну я не против но не публично и чтобы никто незнал", при этом я понимаю ваше отношение к гетеро, получается неравноправно, ко всем одинаково надо относиться уважительно и одинаково.

[@dosko9980]

Thats actually surprisingly moderate.

[@anoutsiderinsiderussia]

It’s Moscow

[@4kach24]

Most people are neutral about this No one truly cares about the relationship of other people, except for the extreme cases (mostly the more conservative regions) As long as it doesn't affect the kids,most adults are fine with LGB(not the T part, though)

[@Counter_Hour]

What did you expect exactly? They are people from a different country, not aliens

[@dosko9980]

@@Counter_Hour considering the crackdowns on LGBT-anything, I'd expect more people to stand behind an anti-stance.

[@ShieldToad-mk2rp]

@@Counter_HourI think that’s also a strength that queer people are completely woven into every society and it means everyone is bound to know a gay person they just don’t probably don’t know it

[@simonebaruzzi156]

They don't know LGBT is not an organization, but a classification.

[@renemagritte8237]

It depends on who is speaking about it and what for. Wide range from gay people fighting for equal rights to militant propagandists fighting each other. We often forget that it is a collective term. There is no common denominator except that it refers to sexual minorities acting together.

[@PUARockstar]

Yeah, russia banned an organisation that doesn't exist. Yet it makes no difference for LGBTQ community in russia

[@oyuyuy]

I'd have to disagree. There's nothing political about being gay but LGBT campaigns and parades and whatever sure are.

[@PUARockstar]

@@oyuyuy there's not a single worldwide "LGBT organisation" though. Which was the wording of that russian law

[@Muf315]

It is classification, and It might be also organization. You can join into non-government organization advocates rights of these people - in western world there are many of them.

[@Loki1191]

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me. Niemöller

[@onelungg]

That Aleksey 53 boss 99,9% FSB agent in some sort of propaganda department. It's like he is reading from a propaganda notebook.

[@krasikisyov2600]

It's the same as you are, but the other way around, now u know how u sound, little soros puppet

[@adamr149]

He's the guy who thinks he's smarter than everyone, when he's really a mental step behind. The kind of guys who gives his title as 'Boss' because he doesn't want you to know that he's the manager at a supermarket. lol

[@SKalapishev]

I think he definitely is smart, but that creepy gaze into the camera gives me the vibe of a mental case

[@krasikisyov2600]

@@SKalapishev hey jojol go to the front

[@SKalapishev]

@@krasikisyov2600 Jojo Mayer is awesome, always at the front, have you seen his paradiddles? Genius

[@tonybaker55]

It is like listening to people in the 1950/60s in countries that accept LGBT as normal now.

[@PUARockstar]

russia went the other way. In the 90s there were lots of gay artists and songs that implied gay relationships. Since pootin time it slowly but steady getting backwards since more and more things get banned and anti-gay state propaganda intensifies, and it really works.

[@juanalonso1980]

@@PUARockstar Are you still living in Russia? Run 🏃 to Europe or America baby. Hugs

[@valerijoukov239]

Normal do not use the word gay)) - they used proper name - PEDERAST. Btw - who introduced the word GAY? - nobody knows - it is a secret))

[@user-gj7xk5ud6s]

Except that USA legalized LGBT only in 2016, not in 50s/60s. In 60s you had a death penalty for homosexualism. I as a liberal oppose this, but such crazyness like in the west isnt acceptable either

[@lednevnik]

Mutilating children and putting them on hormones is normal in the West now? We don't want this shit here

[@dskinner6263]

Thank you for these questions and interviews 👍

[@StayPrimal]

I'm so happy to live in a free country.

[@user-gj7xk5ud6s]

In russia?

[@kdexter2690]

​@@user-gj7xk5ud6sof course and not

[@marchvertochko0056]

Freedom is delusional unless your follow the government’s agenda

[@osennyfoxtrot]

I'm also happy to live in a free country. Possibly the last one in Europe.

[@mikhail7587]

Free from LGBT?

[@dezent]

SirGay at 1:00 does not like LGBT 😂

[@Jarmo60]

Some one say. Russia is free country...what a joke.

[@user-ng6wc4xr2l]

Compared to the United States, yes, we just have a different understanding of freedom. You don't understand it. Also, you can't understand the Chinese and the North Koreans, the Iranians. Just don't come to us and everything will be fine.

[@olgadoudesh3179]

@Jarmo60 It is a free country, just not for minory attracted people, who are striving to become part of LGBT. Not on Putin's watch. And good luck with all that LGBT-based curriculum in your public schools.

[@Anthonythumb]

@@olgadoudesh3179there is no freedom of speech or freedom of press or free elections in Russia

[@telebubba5527]

@@olgadoudesh3179 Ahhh, the freedumb to hate! Get a life!

[@PUARockstar]

​@@olgadoudesh3179russia isn't a free country like at all and it keeps getting worse

[@80-80.]

Surprising that even Soviet type people think Putin is too extreme. But it doesn't matter what people think in Russia.

[@momcilojabucilo9320]

Africans Arabs Indians Serbs and many more love putin

[@JasonFraker-ew1nm]

@80-80 they shouldn't think surprisingly, and it should matter what an intelligent Russian would and should be able to say.🤔

[@shavitvb]

@@momcilojabucilo9320 lol none of them love Putin they just love to take your resources, now its Cheaper then ever with all the sanctions on russia.

[@veronicamifsud9646]

Surprised to hear some of the older generation so tolerant , world is changing , live and let live.

[@anteromano5559]

not surprised that the "boss" is the dumbest of them all xD

[@AlterHeiler]

Почему же? Ты прям умный я смотрю 😂😂😂

[@lisaistryingtolive]

​@@AlterHeiler Алексей, 53 года, босс, разлогиньтесь😂

[@samuelstephens6904]

He did say in another episode that Americans are better at “management” than Russians, so there’s that.

[@kruski51]

As a Russian lesbian, I see some hope here because even if people don't agree, they are against harm and inequality towards LGBT people. That is a step in the right direction because our people know the dangers from our past history and they still want Russia to be free for everyone.

[@Matthew.Henley]

I’m a gay man in the UK. I can’t imagine what you guys in Russia have to go through. Love to you all. Hopefully, when a certain person is finally out of power, things will improve for you and Russia x

[@artemelestudiante187]

Вы такие смешные 😮

[@bighatastrea]

I never really got the "as long as they don't do it in front of ME!" argument. I mean, I feel pretty awkward in general when there are couples of any kind being over the top touchy in public places. I remember seeing an old couple (probably in their 50s) making out in the train and that felt much more offensive than two homosexual boys laughing and hugging... it feels like these people expect others to suddenly turn gay and all of a sudden every man will start to kiss in the supermarket or something? I legit don't get how this is such a big topic for some people

[@west7757]

Most of the arguments here are less understanding than 1970s USA, 50+ years ago and during a different era. Sadly, your hope isn’t hope at all but complacency.

[@9Bashlator11]

Тогда торпедируйся с тринадцатого этажа пж)

[@ahones2255]

I really like a saying that the French have which is "chacun à son goût", meaning everyone to his taste. Life is hard enough; why not just respect people as they are without judging, which by the way is utterly rude?

[@bigzclipz5104]

No thank you

[@jonathancowan2251]

It's none of our business what other people do in their sex lives, so long as what happens is consensual. If not, _then_ society should get involved.

[@agapitoliria]

But what about when they teach it to children? Aren't LGBT's imposing they bias then? This is the argument I see more often against this. Just want to point out: children can be gay, trans, etc too. And they need to know it's a possible way of life like everything else they need to be taught.

[@jonathancowan2251]

@@agapitoliria Disproportionately gay children and young people take their own lives. We society need to learn to accept and cherish _all_ these young people.

[@user-mo1jg3tk4f]

Почему бы тогда не принимать русских такими, какие они есть? В мире так много стран, пусть каждый выбирает такую, какая ему подходит. Скоро так и будет. Всё будет решать мировоззрение, а не национальность.

[@thomasgrey9121]

“BGT is not for us” I completely agree. Lesbians did nothing wrong!

[@Gdub33]

I love lesbians! And I fully support them to do anything they want in public. Like ANYTHING (especially if they're hot). The other categories... Please keep it out of my sight of view please. I'm cool with PDA of men kissing and what not, but I don't want my children going to a drag brunch or seeing an LGBTQ+ rally getting out of hand with "love". I also don't want to be yelled at for forgetting and calling the person he (based on his biological birth) instead of the attack helicopter that he identifies as.

[@rodrigodezubiria2007]

Fascinating Thank you for sharing your life with the world community

[@dogcounter]

thank you so much for your coverage, I found the answers surprising for the most part from what I assumed the sentiment might be

[@judithcampbell1705]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Daniil 🎉. Wishing you Peaceful holidays filled with warmth and love ❤

[@malkontentniepoprawny6885]

In a country like Russia, where the police plant evidence, anyone can be charged and convicted under these new laws.In fact, even a neighbor after an argument can put an LGBT badge on the other one and that's enough to get him arrested.

[@user-ge1cu5uv4w]

If you undermine Russian state or gouverment that is representing Russia than it has right to cancel you on everything that they can think off. If U.S.can do it so could Russia.

[@jacqueline6993]

⁠@@user-ge1cu5uv4w En quoi les LGBT entravent ils le pouvoir?

[@malkontentniepoprawny6885]

@@user-ge1cu5uv4w US doesn't do anything like that.

[@williamcavanagh8982]

Spell check or Google Translate would be of great use to you my genius friend. You also appear to have problems understanding that the USA or much of the so called western world is not anything like Russia and unlikely ever will be..travel a little ...you'll see the error of your ways.@@user-ge1cu5uv4w

[@DigUrOwnHole]

planting evidence is something that US is a champ of. I get what you're saying, is just that the arguments you used are not in your favor.

[@StayPrimal]

Vladimir, for a 78 years old Russian man is VERY logical.

[@dianajemison105]

Nope.

[@larryc1616]

Adolf putin?

[@DigUrOwnHole]

putin is 71 not 78.

[@Comm.DavidPorter]

@@DigUrOwnHole He may be looking at a version of the video that shows names and ages of those interviewed, as one often sees on this channel. I am not seeing it on this video, though. I imagine that he's talking about the gentleman interviewed at 6:02.

[@DigUrOwnHole]

@@Comm.DavidPorter Ah I see. yeah, that might be the case.

[@philippefinance1118]

Thank you for posting these videos, stay safe Daniil

[@catonkybord7950]

1:33 That was a good answer! Stay safe, Ilya! I wish you the best ❤

[@MrInuhanyou123]

You don't have to be a friend of people different than you to know that total domination, control and scapegoating of people is wrong

[@guysterges1382]

Apparently not all Russians have completly lost their mind ! This is a change from most of your other videos. But i'm afraid those same people who sound so reasonable would nevertheless be ready to go to Ukraine to "defend the motherland" .

[@caboose9181]

they have no choice.

[@antilopa2984]

@@caboose9181 Выбор есть всегда! не вам ли на западе это не знать?

[@caboose9181]

@@antilopa2984 о даа, "нам на западе" это пиздец как знакомо)

[@ijusthatenormiesihavenooth1164]

Bom Bing dungmerica to defend the world from amerikun buttsex dictatorship

[@worldoftancraft]

to defend "motherland", the word "motherland" must become not THE English artefact. But why a phoreign ass would know that. Russia lives in former centuries, bear, "vádka", balalajka, and the imaginary mozerlândiâ.

[@labber]

great series, reminds me of the ask project in isreal. it is always important to ask common people on the street on their positions to get better understanding, how and why they think this way.

[@igorb7604]

Aleksey, boss, 53 = what a degenerate rofl

[@jorgeruizibanez2318]

An opinion from Spain, most Russian people are at Middle age mentality. What we do here is to explain to our children's at the school what is human sexuality.

[@mikhail7587]

Then a lot of people in the US has the same mentality

[@mathias9542]

Maybe until they get a bit older than a child before talking about sex witch them is a better idea

[@jorgeruizibanez2318]

@@mathias9542 knowledge makes you free, at 12 years old they touch the sexuality at school, obviously adapted to a youngster I have a daughter of 12 years. I ve seen the lessons in her laptop. nothing to worry about it, just absolute normal info.

[@user-km2wx6eh4u]

Зачем пропагандировать ЛГБТ? У нас хорошая страна-не надо нам ЛГБТ!

[@jorgeruizibanez2318]

@@user-km2wx6eh4u if you write in English I ll respond you, I don't know why the translation in not working

[@christopherodonovan]

Very surprised with some of the answers. Expected harsh replies but the answers seem well thought out.

[@MrPedur]

The best would be if you banned Putler.

[@vas_f35]

VLADI-DADDY 🥵

[@lightmyluv1064]

@@vas_f35AHAHAHAHAH

[@andrewgorelik4792]

Next time ask them: "What would the world be like without Russia?"

[@Xeem_Pad]

I'd like to hear how many times they would respond with Putin's quote: 'Why would we need a world where there's no Russia'

[@quasifex3869]

Neighboring countries would start to wage wars for territories and resources that previously belong to Russia. Russia has nuclear weapons, so before it's demise it will likely launch all of its arsenal on invaders. World's ecology probably will change drastically after that.

[@larryc1616]

Better....

[@ggaw3440]

Probably German

[@Chaldon-hl6yk]

ушки торчат (и пятачок)

[@andrewmossop6241]

LGBT has been with us for years and years and kept in the shadows laws won't stop it, it's part of life. Live and let live.

[@wessexdruid7598]

Millennia and millennia.

[@williamgill_esq.6487]

Live by NOT PROMOTING IT.

[@Fastbikkel]

@@williamgill_esq.6487 "Live by NOT PROMOTING IT" Really? Or is that just your interpretation of it? I live in the Netherlands, LGBTQ is not promoted at all. It is however very clear there is a lot of hate towards people that are different. Life can truly be a lot easier if we just listen to each other a bit more.

[@wessexdruid7598]

@@williamgill_esq.6487 How DO you 'promote' it? Do you think people get converted, somehow - that if they didn't know, it wouldn't happen? What is wrong with an environment that lets people know they don't have to hide, in fear?

[@andrewmossop6241]

@@williamgill_esq.6487 That is similar to what my wife says ,she says she does not want it tramming down her throat!😄

[@englandcalling9721]

The irony is, when people talk about a return to traditional values, they overlook that gay people have been on earth for far longer than 'traditional values'.

[@mikhail7587]

True. Even some ancient Rome emperors were openly gay

[@Bacmanni]

Usually when people talk about traditional values it only means traditional to them. It has nothing to do about anything else.

[@malkontentniepoprawny6885]

It;s irony because Russia leads in the statistics of domestic violence, divorce rates, alcohol addiction, etc., unless these are traditional Russian values.

[@englandcalling9721]

@@Bacmanni Absolutely. Each country has a view of when life was, as 'it should be'. Yet, for those living during that 'ideal' period, their ideal was further back!

[@nikolayew]

people also don’t realise that a generation prior to them would likely have different traditional values and the one before as well. I think 90% could not exactly define what they mean by traditional values

[@JasonFraker-ew1nm]

Yuriy it's like going back to the U.S.S.R times, the tightening of the screws so true.

[@terl99]

Every society should be judged based on how it treats the most vulnerable citizens. Having different categories, discriminating or even percecuting humans who doesn't match with a certain ideal is a fascist way of thinking. Maybe some Russian should start looking into their mirrors to meet a true fascist.

[@thegmredditor1573]

F*ck yeah. What is this concept called? I think there is a name for it.

[@banta-pd8zj]

I have very little understanding when some people say that everyone is equal then immediately proceed to the many "but ...". The fight to achieve parity in many western countries for lbgtq citizens to live openly and to be able to explore and work out their sexuality is only relatively recent. Putin's authoritarian governance needs both external and internal enemies and this is an important hook to hang and promote anti western sentiment.

[@maestro6458]

the most vulnerable are not LGBT people at all, but disabled people, children without parents, lonely old people

[@terl99]

@@thegmredditor1573 I would say decency. But you might be looking for the term egalitarianism.

[@banta-pd8zj]

Maestro. Really. And your list of the most vulnerable? Add LBG... onto their list of woes. What do you reckon? I'm old enough to remember that being gay could be a death sentence by being targeted with violence, a reason for relentless bullying, the cause of serious suicide numbers. That's what anti gay laws meant. You're right up to a point and then you seriously lose the plot.

[@nickwiz900]

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me. -Martin Niemöller

[@hardyakka6200]

i'm not gay , but i smile a lot. is that bad>

[@felixtienegeds3591]

haha

[@jackdoe3889]

Yes. Considering how f#cked up things are in Russia, anyone caught smiling is highly suspicious.

[@305ChiiKo]

No lol… Smiling has nothing to do with orientation. I know many gay men that are very serious. “Personality” and “Orientation” are two different things lol… smiling is good.

[@JasonFraker-ew1nm]

Nothing left to do but smile smile smile.

[@bethy_cuter]

As a bi girl from Russia, I'm going to use this take about 51 arricle in the constitution whenever talking about all of this crap lol

[@AliceP.]

Have you sensed any difference in social climate after this recent "LGBT is an extremist organization" thing?

[@bethy_cuter]

@@AliceP. oh that's a tough one So one the one hand, not really, as the situation was already pretty bad. there were already some laws about the 'lgbt propaganda' first amongst under-aged people, then amongst everybody else 😅 basically it didn't happen all at once, it took quite a while to make people believe that gays are the enemy and the problem. So I don't think that this specific law changed the way people view lgbt people. We were viewed as something bad and disgusting or as a threat and that remains the same (important: not all of the people think that. young people usually don't care from my experience, so as some adults). Surprisingly the opinions about this specific law seem to be not very supportive. Even if someone is against lgbt in general they'll be like 'yeah, I don't want to see any of this, why can't they do it all behind the closed doors in their bedroom! but to arrest them for who they are? they are mentally sick, so let them be but let them be quiet' - that's the main narrative that i've heard from the people who don't support lgbt However this law changes a couple of things 1. it basically banned all of the people as coming out as a part of the community is now a crime lols. In the law that I saw it's stated that the use of the gendered words (as in actor-actress, but has been a matter of the linguistic debates in Russian language recently) is also a sign of this deviant behaviour that lgbt community share. What I mean is that this law extremely ridiculous, doesn't represent the truth (who would be surprised) and stands in a row with other repressive laws. It banned the people, and that's another huge reminder that it's dangerous to talk and to speak up. And people get more scared, and some get quieter to stay safe. 2. most important change so for the russian propaganda gays and their sexuality is not a real issue, we get it. they need an enemy - they created one. Lgbt is considered to be a tool of the evil West, that is going to destroy our traditional values, the culture and the society, that aims to degenerate all of the people who don't support lgbt, and it is a group of freaks that claim to be better and want more privileges than 'normal' people have. This traditional values narrative is a whole programme, and I'm scared to think where they are going to with all of this. If you scroll the news, you'll see other similar news (not so similar at first glance, but I believe they're connected) - discussions on banning the abortions and some first steps made in this direction - reviewing the cartoons, songs, TV shows and films (no lgbt topic there) and checking whether they contain any damaging information that can negatively influence children and teach them wrong values - special lessons at school where they discuss values. checking the study materials and so on - loudly cancelling all of the pop stars that attended 'the naked party' (it was some party where they had the 'naked dresscode' as in bra and a transparent shirt or something. not a big deal if you ask me, but it was soo criticised by the state because of these stars' kinda collapsed moral system or whatever, because they don't respect the values of our country and because 'how can they have this Sodom and Gomorrah when our guys are dying at the frontline protecting our country') - arresting some guy that also decided to perform almost naked on the stage at his concert for the same reasons - developing the russian 'the sims' game with the traditional values - accusations and apologies from different famous and not people for absolutely ridiculous stuff - some potentially motivational stuff about giving birth to more children as our demographic situation is not good enough - the discussion, that Russian military guys saw a gender-neutral bathrooms in some Ukrainian school and unironic phrases like 'now we know what we fight for'. it actually became a meme within the opposition 😅 Long story short, it can be seen that the state programme is to show how unique our Russian culture and values are, how important it is to save our morals as they are and not let the evil western people and idk, i suppose Ukrainians ruin it, or whatever they mean. If we look on the issue from this side, then the lgbt law that you asked me about is a massive stone in all of this prison that they've been building, and it did heat up the climate in the society sorry for a long-read!

[@AliceP.]

@bethy_cuter oh, don't apologise for the long answer! I'm interested and it's pretty hard for people outside of Russia to understand the real dimension of anything because we can only get what comes out in english and I know that there's an effort from the government to censor information. I follow a russian youtuber who's openly gay and has been living in Georgia (perhaps you know her? Her channel is "Natasha's adventures") and she's pretty much the only person I see talking about these issues in english. I suppose there aren't many more because even living abroad you could get in trouble or not be able to safely return if needed :/ I did wonder why I don't see any artists/celebrities from Russia speaking out, considering that status does protect people a lot of the time. But your story about the naked party thing and celebrities getting cancelled/persecuted might have enlightened it for me. Thanks!

[@bethy_cuter]

@@AliceP. some of the actors and singers started to speak out at the beginning of the war, since then i believe all of them left the country as their concerts were banned, their songs are in the extremist lists, they are claimed to be foreign agents and it's impossible for them to work and not to be fined, arrested Actually no one has protection. You are safe only when you do what is needed, but considering the speed on which the new laws are appeared.... you just get more and more reasons to get arrested every week 😞 and anybody could be at risk if they do something 'wrong' even when it's being a decent person feel free to ask if you have any more questions, i'll try to answer from my perspective 🤍

[@-InsanelySick-]

nobody cares

[@ayoutubechannelhasnoname6018]

Very interesting indeed

[@BoardroomBuddha]

What is saddest of all is that they people think that is going to be an election in Russia...

[@markdriscoll8119]

The oppressive state needs a “them”. I was surprised some of the hard liners from other videos even thought it too harsh.

[@Seaglopur-]

It's so funny to me when people say things like: "They don't have to do it publicly because other people may join them." That's not how being LGBT+ works. Either you are it or you don't but acceptance from other people around you makes you a better person instead of a closeted frustrated hateful individual because you believe that is the norm.

[@philipmain5701]

There is a statistical norm - most people are hetero sexual - there is a statistical distribution as in most cases concerning probability. Born in 1950 - the difference in acceptance of being outside 'the norm' compared to my teenage years and now is fascinating and gratifying As a hetero sexual man, I have no understanding why - I just am. This will be the case for all, gays, bis, adrogenous etc

[@balsarmy]

​@@philipmain5701Freud would agrue with that.

[@lednevnik]

Why do you need drag queens planting their ideas into children then 🤔

[@ameli__a]

they think it’s a trend

[@ct5625]

These people seem to think that LGBT+ "choose" to be so, the best argument against this is to ask the moron when they "chose" to be heterosexual. It implies that they could have CHOSEN to be LGBT+, which always makes them lose their ignorant little minds.

[@Ilovedoggie313]

When things aren't going well in any society, the State finds scapegoats. Ukrainian people are scapegoats. LGBT people are scapegoats. The West are scapegoats. It goes on. Take a careful look at your State, your government, and you will find the unpopular answers to your questions there.

[@thebrognator3524]

They can’t even look at you in the eyes when they say this is not an electoral move

[@johntomasini3916]

Comments here I can relate to. I'm an Australian, I live in Australia. In my 71 one years I have seen changes in society, similar to Russia, the opening up to Gay and LGBTQ people has gradually brought people to a greater understanding of why people are different. In my teens and early twenties I was more left oriented, however I grew up in a rural Conservative area, I voted Conservative for forty years. Now in my more senior years I see things differently and am more left leaning, I suspect some of the elderly Russians feel the same. Are we so different that we can't get along?

[@kangarooninja2594]

I can understand the impulse to criminalize it, there's a social contagion that comes with the acceptance of it that turns into all sorts of chaos. Look at the US, we went from less than 1% of adults to over 30% of middle school age children identifying this way. And now we have things like trans story hour in schools and libraries and "MAPS" trying to assert themselves into the culture. That's not normal and not sustainable.

[@RNA0ROGER]

I think Russia gets it about right

[@John-Zebra]

@@RNA0ROGERhonestly, yeah. It’s the most normal outlook out of any country so far, surprisingly.

[@Pogouldangeliwitz]

0:59 That dude for sure bears the wrong name... 😬

[@susansmith9263]

At least the people interviewed are civil. 💗 I heard some compassion. No extremists or nastiness. That's a good thing.

[@putte2164]

Last guy was spot on

[@marymarlow3646]

I found this overall quite a positive interview. Most of them seem to get it. Even the old people understand that you can’t legislate against the way people are born. It’s asking too much of a country that is not liberal democratic that they should embrace things that we ourselves did not embrace only a relatively short time ago, a few decades at most for a general understanding of gay people. Totally agree about it being a strategy to shore up support though. Putin legislated to ban gay marriage a few years ago. So it was legal until then 😂 ?

[@javiervega1065]

No one is born that way.

[@peaceandlove3225]

He didn't ban it few years ago. They were not legal that time to ban them. He specified them to be illegal. There was written in Constitution that marriage is a unity between two people and he changed it to one man and one woman.

[@stephenpurves2590]

.@@javiervega1065 Have you ever asked a gay person why they are gay? I'd be 100% certain they would tell you they were born gay

[@javiervega1065]

@@stephenpurves2590 show me concrete proof that, that sort of geene exists? Therefore your disproven.

[@desydukuk291]

To the rural areas i say leave the goats alone.

[@DruggedBunny]

So LGBT = Leave Goats By Themselves? 🤔

[@Gamma_Draconis]

In this video the people gave more reasonable answers, I'm shocked.

[@cheif3112]

Aleksey. You poor poor man.

[@milacik]

Best is, old man 80% have gay experience in russia . Because they was 2 years soldiers. And i know what young boys did 2 years without Ladys.

[@romazone101]

There is a lot of russian gay porn.

[@firmonkey8782]

Ходили к любовницам в увольнение. Или просто воздерживались.

[@sroberts605]

That's not gay, that's rather desperate necessity, and therefore guilt feelings afterwards. Entirely different.

[@telebubba5527]

@@sroberts605 Nonsense. That is gay, but they are in self-denial.

[@milacik]

@@firmonkey8782 da , i was 1 xaxaxa.

[@matswag8831]

There is no such thing as joining the LGBT.. and even young people, that found it interesting because its trending or whatever wont commit to it in the long run. The only thing we are trying to promote is: that its okay to feel different and its not a reason why you should be alone, bullied or anything along those lines. Young people need to pay attention so they know its not an illnes or anything negative.

[@matswag8831]

Aleksey that proclaimed himself as a boss is an example of why young people need to be thaught that it has nothing to do with any movements. It is a natural thing.

[@matswag8831]

He is obvoiusly a brainwashed probably low educated individual, but it still further prooves my point.

[@missylissy200]

It's interesting to see how the most tolerant people in this interview were the much older ones! Especially 80+ Vladimir

[@HigherMorality]

Daniil is his in tears his organization got banned, LOL.

[@ghislainlagace8536]

Yes ! what a wonderful country to live in! a place where people can only applaud the leaders...It looks like the emancipation of this country was frozen in 1950 good luck Merry Christmas and happy new years 2024

[@Wndrfl7]

russia classic edition

[@caboose9181]

toxic

[@worldoftancraft]

meanwhile emancipation in your country is when hundreds of people who don't have anything more significant to do march half naked with flags of their sexual minority, while others march with their cargo cult symbols, i mean vagina. And all of that when the society drowns in hate and feuds about things of littlemost significance.

[@momcilojabucilo9320]

America is a shrthole today with so much crime,racism,school shootings,drug epidemic,illegal immigrantion and immorality of all sorts

[@LittleBodyBigSoul]

Да, я прекрасно живу в России, и могу себе всё позволить. Спасибо, но рождество в России празднуют 7 января, мыы православная страна. Удачи за западным телевизором !

[@mobeltass]

Amazing how their arguments are at least 30 years behind the rest of us. Like "we shouldn't promote it, young people might turn out gay". That's...not how it works.

[@konstantinfromkrasnoyarsk5941]

Есть много детей с неокрепшей психикой и для них подобные законы и вводятся

[@mobeltass]

@@konstantinfromkrasnoyarsk5941 lol

[@igorpipuk7754]

Yep, this video is extremely blackpilling. I expected all of them to have based opinion but seems like they're also becoming cucked just like the westerners.

[@pacmanc8103]

@@igorpipuk7754 Is this post for real? Trolling with 3 comments on this channel.😂

[@shinjishinjs6060]

That has been completely proved to be the case in the last 30 years.

[@markpribyshchuk4918]

Nice touch Sirgay

[@LostRoaming]

My thinking is that this has nothing to do with Russia. This is Ru leadership doing something that they feel will get them support on the American and European far right. I think indeed they are right.

[@inesez3325]

Boss Aleksej thinks he is a smart guy😂😂😂

[@vulgar_scabby_beaver]

and he thinks that no one knows he's gay...

[@namesurname1118]

Равенство перед законом полное, давно так не смеялся :D

[@mattgaetz6792]

No kidding. These people are delusional as hell

[@lydiasutakowsky2874]

I spotted your joke - SirGay 😅🎉

[@ADAPTATION7]

Looks like a nice winter in Russia. Wished we had snow like them.

[@gisobo]

When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist. When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat. When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I didn’t speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. When they came for me, there was no-one left to speak out. Martin Niemöller

[@EttaKamenatios]

Напомните, кто является главой LGBT? Какая у организации иерархия? Где можно почитать устав LGBT?

[@munavvarshohsolehzoda6655]

I dead 😂😂😂 > ded you LEGENDA😂😂

[@kolasillers7776]

What Baskov , Kirkorov and many others have to say about this one ? One side takes all this to extreme and other side too. I 'm in between.

[@Tobi-oi3uf]

6:24 So gay people aren't born in rural Russia but are in capital city?? How can gay people choose where to be born Im curious hahahaha

[@HubertofLiege]

Proving that it’s a choice

[@user-rg4mm9qz3y]

Гомосексуализм это природный механизм по уменьшению численности населения , как я считаю. Он может быть активирован при нахождении человека в густонаселённом городе , так как мозг может расценить густонаселённость как повод начать популяцию понижать. Почитай опыт Джона Кэлхуна "вселенная 25". Опыт проводился на мышах и некорректно его полностью экстраполировать на человеческое общество, тем не менее, сходства в поведенческих тенденциях пугающее схоже. Можно довольно долго проводить параллели с этим опытом.

[@renegadeneverdies]

no, he said that rural population does not support lgbt

[@Tobi-oi3uf]

This is total bullshit. Gay people live in villages too @@user-rg4mm9qz3y

[@Tobi-oi3uf]

But there are gay people in rural places so how can they not support existence of their neighbour or family member? @@renegadeneverdies

[@mikerodent3164]

In the UK there is at least some attempt to try and understand the extent of violence and discrimination against LGBT people. And what it usually shows is that the language and attitudes of the State and prominent politicians matter a lot. In a dysfunctional basket case like the Muscovite Empire there will never be any attempt, even any pretence of an attempt, to survey such realities. So we can only really imagine what it's like being gay or lesbian, or suspected of being so, in a provincial, run-down, post-Soviet shithole. These Moscow attitudes are better than they could have been. No-one will ever know the realities in that country. Probably most LGBT people across the KGB Orwellian empire keep it hidden as much as possible, even to themselves.

[@wwbuirkle]

Yes but on the other hand telling children men can get pregnant and having biological men smacking women around on the playing field is total rubbish

[@bigzclipz5104]

Much of the violence comes from within the same group.

[@gordon861]

It seems like the attitudes in Russia are similar to the UK in the 70s/80s. Most people are aware of LGBT and generally don't care about it. unless religious or 'traditional'. But the government don't want this sort of thinking to take away from their 'traditional family values', which it really doesn't, they just want people to keep with the old ways, do what they are told and don't question the government. Add in the anti-gay religious factor and you end up with the Russian version of Clause 28, and make it illegal to 'promote homosexuality'

[@wwbuirkle]

True but gay rights has morphed into the ubsurd and I know gay people who agree with this

[@user-ee9dl2yq1e]

Ну что за болван... Со своими тупыми клише и вечным Оруэллом или Толкиеном! Оруэлл был социалистом, чтобы ты знал, и писал даже не про СССР, а скорее про коллективный Запад! В России геям живётся не хуже и не лучше, чем везде. У нас есть и гей-клубы, и неформальные места встреч, есть пары которые живут вместе десятилетиями. Россияне в основной массе относятся к геям спокойно. Запрещена только пропаганда ЛГБТ, то есть : живи спокойно - никто не полезет к тебе в кровать.

[@davidlinehat4657]

By my understanding, the elections are pre-decided, which if true, makes the last question moot. Thank you for the video, 1420!

[@tuinbuddy3385]

So lot in common with the nazi s and then accusing Ukraine of being nazified. Everything is the other way around. Difficult to understand.

[@J--12]

It's really not in your interest to remember about natzees when talking about ukrops, bozo.

[@idaanddactyl8002]

Товарищи экстремисты, вы здесь? 🎉❤

[@O-pm8bb]

Конечно 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈❤️

[@pxelcss]

Why being gay is illegal in Russia? Putin doesnt like competition.

[@neezduts69420]

He wants men for himself

[@hugoclavier]

Is it just me or my sis Ilya is a queen undercover 💅🏽 1:35 ?

[@N9OI]

Среди моих знакомых я не знал тех кто является ЛГБТ представителем. Мне было интересно увидеть этих людей и я пошел с другом в гейклуб и могу сказать что статистика права. Там были как 50 так и 20 летние мужчины и девушки. Даже мусульман видел. Очень доброжелательная и дружеская атмосфера. Меня никогда не интересовали мужчины и мне было просто интересно. В целом сейчас общество толерантно но государство как обычно идёт против интересов граждан и этот клуб к сожалению недавно закрыли а я хотел туда с женой сходить так как ей тоже было интересно там побывать. Мира Вам.

[@Jacob-ev7zk]

В России? какой город?

[@mrmarkovniktgv3058]

​@@Jacob-ev7zkне знаю, откуда комментатор выше, но я из Краснодара, и ситуация у меня аналогичная)

[@clandestinefreedom8114]

I support a ban on LGBT propoganda, but a ban on someones natural orientation is far stretched. Someone shouldn't be gay because they were influenced by their peers or propoganda, yet they should know from birth. Same thing with transgenderism; unless your brain is specifically sexed different from your body, no one should be trans and get serious operations done because of they have been influenced. However, measuring who has dysphoria is a difficult process.

[@user-qu1yp8bh8c]

I don't think you understand how it works. No one becomes gay because they are influenced by something or someone. Either you're gay or you're not. Hence, "gay propaganda" doesn't exist. Even in the most progressive countries it's harder to live your life if you are gay.

[@JasonFraker-ew1nm]

@clandestinefreedom8114 your peers don't convert you into being gay it's more of a preference, someone who is actually gay,which I'm not could explain that more precisely.

[@mizeraklid]

Sir gay against LGBT 0:57

[@Chaldon-hl6yk]

мивину получи и распишись

[@staffankarinpappila3975]

The ”russian look”, look behind you every 5 sec

[@enkhyy]

I would like to hear more opinions of younger men and women between the ages of 21 to 35.

[@thelma-7777]

It's been a while since Daniil last showed up in the camera and it's not his voice in the video. I wonder what is going on....Hope he is fine.

[@user-jx4pt1ww4c]

Being free does not mean that you have the right to do what you want, it means that you have the right to do what you ought to do, there is huge difference.

[@PeterNothing]

What special things LGBT do that hetero does not?

[@Jr-qo4ls]

Vladimir was fairly insightful.

[@davidoff123]

This first guy is impressive!

[@skejeton]

surprisingly mild for russia

[@wessexdruid7598]

Aleksey fancies himself, doesn't he? I pity those who work for him, or do business with him.

[@alpinro]

Daniil, after seeing comments on other platforms that some of your videos are not available in Russia - I'm curious to understand why? Is it because of national legislation or something else?

[@Photomonon]

Thought they made a movie called The exterminator, but its actually Terminator

[@lenawretmanberglund-ir4ce]

Mr Jones is also a movie abt Holomodor

[@AndrewKerr2406]

Russian babies need to be born healthy? WTF?

[@telebubba5527]

Well, it's pretty clear that that hasn't happened in a hundred years...

[@Maxim.Nazarenko]

05:17 - "Побольше спрашивайте умных людей". "Ладно, мы тогда пойдём искать".

[@maksimbonn]

так же подумал😅