Why Lightyear Never Worked

Lightyear was pixar's returned to theaters but it bombed, and knowing what has happened with elemental to moderate success, I thought it was now time to revisit more of why it didn't work for that return.

[@jessicanoelle2012jp]

I guess the most unbelievable thing about this movie being a fictional movie in Toy Story, is that SOX wasn't Andy's new toy.

[@Lucid_PZPL]

They should’ve just said Buzz Lightyear was a real person and it would’ve made more sense

[@jessicanoelle2012jp]

@Lucid_PZPL like Stinky Pete said, "once the astronauts went up". And Buzz was a play on Buzz Adlrin. Yeah I agree they should've done that, like Set in the 50s/60s and the astronauts got more than what they bargained for when they went into space.

[@isaacvaldez4134]

​@@jessicanoelle2012jp That sounds like a good idea.

[@odindarkll3706]

Tbf, SOX was about as a half assed inclusion as the plot of the film. I don't get why Disney pretends that Buzz Lightyear Star Command didn't exist for not only two decades, they also didn't build nor make the spin off series a base for the setting at hand?

[@jessicanoelle2012jp]

@odindarkll3706 true. But imagine Sox being what he was made to do "a therapy animal" for Andy. Maybe his dad left and Andy is acting funny and not playing with woody as much. Woody is going crazy and Sox is just analyzing BOTH him and Andy. Making woody realize that Andy is hurt about his dad and thus becomes a more selfless toy. Idk lol

[@knucklesmclean]

Lightyear: I'm the most definitive aspect of Andy getting his Buzz Lightyear toy Buzz Lightyear of Star Command: Am I a joke to you?

[@MrGabeanator]

to be honest buzz lightyear of star command seemed more like a cartoon andy would watch rather than this movie

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

No one was more excited for Lightyear than I was. I thought it was a real opportunity to expand upon Buzz the character and make an exciting space adventure that expanded upon the lore in a different way. Instead, I got a boring ass movie that made Buzz lifeless, ruined the most iconic Pixar villain, and was not a celebration of Buzz Lightyear. It amazes me that they screwed up so badly with a movie that was the easiest thing to get right.

[@apocalypseofplush]

DUDE I KNOW, RIGHT?!?

[@elimejia5749]

I'm glad I skipped this film and watch Minions rise of gru instead. I watch lightyear when it came on Disney plus.

[@connorwood9211]

Just check out the animated movie and tv show. Had everything you just described

[@fist-of-doom487]

The cartoon is everything you’d expect the movie to be. Do what I did and pretend the movie never happened

[@elimejia5749]

@@fist-of-doom487 fully agreed, watch the first 3 toy story film. Yeah uh don't know if toy story 4 is better or worse then lightyear

[@kingagrabowska9366]

- The granddaughter doesn't know about the ''to infinity and beyond'' even tho it was a thing her grandmother did with Buzz, has she never mentioned it in her books? She was in the room when her grandmother did that, finger and all. - Invisible mode was the granddaughter's idea but she doesn't know about the time limit? - She is afraid of space? Why? Did she have a traumatic accident? Her grandmother died of old age, not in space. - The way how they are trapped but still able to move and merge and destroy the panel that lets them free. Who made this? - When the car makes a sound the bugs attack people instead of going outside where the sound was coming from. - The old lady can take three things and make them explode. It's just lazy writing to make you believe she can do that. Also, was she failing for years or did she just now wants to be a space ranger? - Taika Waititi's character has a pen. Why would you need a pen if the technology is beyond paper, especially in space? - Time paradox. If Buzz went back in time to stop the crush there would've been no reason to test the fuel and he wouldn't find what he needs to time travel. - Also, how lucky that he just found everything he would need, including a spaceship with robots that can only say Zurg, for his crazy plan to work. - Everybody thought that Zurg would be Buzz's father but they changed it to be ''subversive''. - Anything involving robot cat that just saves their asses. - ''References'' to Star Wars, Halo, and many other Sci-Fi I don't get. Your movie has to stand on its own! Shrek has a bunch of references but also an interesting world and jokes of its own. There are probably hundreds more problems that I don't have the energy to type out.

[@NotThisAnonymous]

All of these are definitely true and annoyed me when I watched the movie lol, the only exception being the fear of space. People are scared of the most random things for literally no reason (there’s literally a phobia that’s the fear of the colour yellow), so it’s entirely plausible that she’s scared of space, but tbh that part of the movie didn’t really make a lot of sense to me and it just seemed like the fear was only added in at the last minute for plot purposes because it wasn’t shown AT ALL (that I remember) that she was scared of space before when it was brought up. (Btw I’m not trying to be rude, I just thought I’d say that in case you didn’t realise. You still have a point, it’s a bit weird and very random that she’s scared of space)

[@ahanaroyc.1330]

another thought: the plot only moves forward when the rookie characters do something stupid That's terrible writing

[@kingagrabowska9366]

@@ahanaroyc.1330 Pixar themselves wrote in their rules of storytelling ''Coincidences to get characters into trouble are great; coincidences to get them out of it are cheating.''

[@NotThisAnonymous]

@@ahanaroyc.1330 Yesss, oh my gosh exactlyyyy, that’s my main problem with the movie lol

[@spiringstream_3551]

@kingagrabowska9366 Most of your points you made are very similar to @GamingMagic13 rant on Lightyear. You’re right about everything.

[@battybuddy]

As I repeatedly put it, you take a guy whose catchphrase is "to infinity and beyond" and you trap him on a bland planet and make the lesson to settle down and cut your losses.

[@battybuddy]

Also, in regards to Zurg- I was like "Does anyone know what happens if you time travel and kill your past self? ANYONE?!?"

[@sharzinlalebazri5673]

All of its other failures aside, this movie made one fatal mistake and that was botching the ONE THING it was supposed to do: convince us that someone would buy a Buzz Lightyear toy after seeing it.

[@rosykindbunny1313]

I would rather buy a Sox toy

[@darkwoods1954]

The toyline for the film went to discount then was cancelled early with revealed toys never getting released. So no way a kid in the 90s would have wanted toys after seeing the dull film.

[@superfanmusicmaker]

When it was first announced, I was under the impression that the movie was basically going to be an in-universe biopic for the "real" astronaut that inspired the toy Buzz. So it wouldn't have Zurg, aliens, etc, and it'd be more gritty and realistic like Gravity or First Man. But the actual film claims that it's the fictional movie Andy saw before he got his Buzz toy, and they even straight up say it was 1995. With that in mind, it would have made way more sense to actually make something closer to a 80's/90's sci-fi action movie rather than modern day one.

[@Sachistar7591]

Exactly. By design 90s action movies are gimmicky and wacky with a lot of need to suspend disbelief.

[@aidanhever3369]

This is like the infamous third part/prequel to The Little Mermaid. They did it as an excuse to pretend the animated series never happened just because the original creators hate it. Instead of being superior as they had hoped, it was the final nail in the coffin for the notorious series of the DTV sequels to the Disney classics.

[@maniacaldude]

I thought the reason the DTV sequels stopped being made was because John Lasseter mandated it when he became CCO for Walt Disney Animation.

[@PK-Radio]

The buzz lightyear of star command movie made way more sense as the movie andy watched

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

It makes more sense because it actually ties to the movies, even in the intro The Cast of Toy Story watch the shows

[@judebaun9993]

@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375exactly.

[@mikep9143]

I really believe Pixar could pull off a Sci-fi epic similar to Star Trek, Dune, or Interstellar without the “Lightyear” or “Toy Story” name. They could’ve made a whole original trilogy with an overarching storyline and interesting world building full of lore, but sadly we got Lightyear instead. Like I get it…money, profitability, etc, but come on, the potential was there.

[@RogerS1978]

I believe they could have, before they were taken over by Disney.

[@tjsmith5276]

I wanted to see a vibrantly colorful somewhat wacky film where Buzz was portrayed as a little bit cocky on the surface but also sweet. Where Zurg was an actual villain who maybe has a right-hand man or woman that fills the audience with terror. One movie that gave me a few of those things is "My Little Pony: The Movie." If this movie would have been more like that, it might have drawn more people to go and see it.

[@princesserika9899]

Which My Little Pony movie are you talking about? 😶

[@tjsmith5276]

@@princesserika9899 The one that came out in 2017. The main villain was kind of goofy but he had a female character working for him who was super menacing and actually gave you chills.

[@johannesseyfried7933]

​@@princesserika9899It took me a moment to realize: Yes, of course there are multiple. 😅

[@princesserika9899]

@@tjsmith5276 Ohhh, you mean Storm King and Fizzlepop Berrytwist-- I mean Tempest?

[@tjsmith5276]

@@princesserika9899 correct.

[@shadowleon659]

It's mostly because we had the original Buzz Lightyear of Star Command and it's animated series.

[@Fusilier7]

I'm convinced Pixar wanted to make another Toy Story film, without Woody and the other toys, so they decided to make a Buzz Lightyear film, hoping enough people would have forgotten the 2000s cartoon series - Buzz Lightyear of Star Command. Unfortunately, Pixar has greenlit a fifth Toy Story film, going down the same route that doomed Ice Age, It's very disappointing Pixar could make something awesome, only turn 180 with some generic dribble. Moreover, I recommend BLoSC, it's a fun and creative cartoon, it is everything the film tried to be, novelty is what the audience is craving, we get enough generic gruel, now we want gourmet.

[@lucymiau5700]

They should have made this Movie as a conventional SciFi Story and not as a Buzz Lightyear Story. With the ToyStory label tacked on, it cannot work. Buzz needs to be appeal to kids. But this version of Buzz is more appealing to young Adults.

[@edwardsaldana2534]

Why are we even getting Toy Story 5 when this movie FAILED

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

Right? That should have been your hint Disney! Why can’t you just let go? Stop ruining the Toy Story universe.

[@hunterolaughlin]

“Money! Money! Money!” - One-Eyed Bart (Mr. Potato Head) (Toy Story - 1995)

[@superfanmusicmaker]

We're getting Toy Story 5 _because_ this movie failed.

[@elemomnialpha]

Because 4 didn't

[@lugbzurg8987]

Lightyear is to the Toy Story franchise what DmC: Devil May Cry is to Devil May Cry, at least in this regard. (At least DmC was more colorful, inventive, and had marginally-better characters, in contrast to Lightyear.)

[@Alois_from_Vienna_in_Austria]

Lightyear bombed because it was a bait and switch and the target groups noticed it. The Lightyear in the movie has almost nothing to do with the lightyear from the other Toystory stuff. Also Disney-Pixar failed to tell the poeple why they should watch the movie and instead concentrated in the marketing on the first lesbian couple in a Disney-Pixar movie. That was very similar to Strange World.

[@80sKidfromthe90s]

I really wish they would have gone with the original idea of Buzz’s father Larry Lightyear becoming Zurg.

[@lugbzurg8987]

His name is "Larry"!?

[@hunterolaughlin]

@@lugbzurg8987I think the name comes from an original name idea for Buzz during development of Toy Story which was “Lunar Larry”. Yeah… I think we can all agree the crew all made the right choice going with the name “Buzz Lightyear”.

[@reecepierce]

But buzz's dad is larry in deleted scenes it never said larry was zurg

[@bohgirl11]

TV Spots: "Lightyear is Pixar's triumphant return to theaters." Box Office: "NOPE." Elemental: "We'll take that title, thank you."

[@jonahdengler3858]

Shame on you writers for creating Zurg into a future Buzz! 🤨

[@92JazzQueen]

Biggest thing why the gay suplot doesn't work is because of the fact it's 1995 and it's a family film which back then wouldn't fly due to how people were not yet open to that.

[@Vilgax00]

Thats what ı said.

[@drownzi]

even nowadays people don’t want that in their family films

[@RavenclawDaisy95]

Well, some films in the 90s had SUBTLE gay substance. It wasn't the center, more like in one scene, or in the background. One movie that comes to mind is Mrs. Doubtfire, Robin's character's brother was gay had a male partner, and the only scene they appeared in was the face makeup scene.

[@92JazzQueen]

@@RavenclawDaisy95 and it was pg 13 instead of pg.

[@nas0518]

Zurg's twist is one of reasons why Lightyear is such a bland mixed bag.

[@80sKidfromthe90s]

Agreed

[@giorgimamalashvili4220]

How was this Andy's favourite movie? If i was a kid i probably would've gotten bored halfway through.

[@brunnokamei9623]

Tbf, children tend to have crappy taste. I mean, I liked "Son of the Mask" when I was a child...

[@hunterolaughlin]

@@brunnokamei9623I’m surprised you managed to not have any nightmares from that film. That film would’ve more scared kids ironically.

[@KaeMcSpadden]

And what is bad that Lightyear could have worked if they made it a fun colorful sci-fi adventure similar to something like The Fifth Element, The Jetsons, Beyond Good and Evil, and Ratchet and Clank. Instead we got a sad, gloomy, Interstellar and Annihilation knock off.

[@CrazyKungfuGirl]

I would sum up the problem as "how did this movie result in that toy? And why would a child want to watch something this grim?"

[@wallygator92]

This movie would have been better if it had been a homage to old space adventure movies and TV shows like Flash Gordon.

[@giorgimamalashvili4220]

I wanted a fun, entertaining and exciting movie not a boring, bland and lifeless film that manages to butcher the titular character and i kid you not make the worst possible twist villain in Disney's recent movie catalogue imaginable. This film would and SHOULD've been good but MAN did they mess up bad...i feel embarrassed for even trying to sort of defend this movie with a cautious optimism.

[@self-absorbed5269]

This movie feels like they are trying to make an example out of remakes. But it just proved that making an examples of others makes an example of you. You can't comment forever , especially when you're making entertainment. Hunchback did the same message better "life is not a spectator sport."

[@RLDragonStrider]

The sad part is. I really like the visual style and overall look of this movie. The ships, the tech the clothes the overall early 90s sci-fi feel and dirty grunge looks amazing. That dosent save the movie from being a dumpsterfire though. Shame it could not be a better story with this awesome visual design.

[@kingagrabowska9366]

This movie fails to appeal to anyone it was trying to appeal to. - It fails to appeal to LGBT supporters because there is only a 2-second lesbian kiss that would've been edited out for less accepting countries and was later added again after people pointed it out. But people still won't watch a bad/boring movie for one scene. You can't have it both ways! Either make an LGBT movie with a budget that takes into consideration that the movie won't be released everywhere. - Parents with small children would rather not have to have a talk about LGBT. Also, the lesbian couple gets together and one of them is shown being pregnant. Kids may not know where the babies come from but they know there needs to be ''mommy and daddy''. I don't think the parents want to talk about in vitro or the possibility that she just asked some guy to get her pregnant so she and her wife can have a baby. - But Toy Story is a franchise from the 90s. I bet people who grew up with it and people who don't mind this one scene would be more than enough to make this movie a huge hit. Except people already know the backstory of Buzz because it's a parody of Star Wars and they retcon it in the movie anyway, so what's the point of watching it? - And don't give me the ''they wanted to appeal to a wider audience''. Toy Story already has a huge audience. And why would people unfamiliar with and who are not fans of Toy Story would want to watch a spinoff movie which has so many references that they won't get? Besides those two scenes (gay kiss and future Buzz being Zurg) the whole movie is just a bore. With the trailer failing to engage people, it feeling like a cash grab and inflation people just decided they could watch it on Disney+ and forgot all about it.

[@Commenter839]

Honestly I think my only real issue with the lesbian scene is that this was supposed to be a mainstream movie that was made before 1995. There's no way in hell an interracial lesbian kiss would be used as anything more than a gag in that era. It would be like if a popular movie from 1935 showcased a black person with a respectable life and authority over a white person- it may be "inclusive", but it's not really indicative of the time period

[@itzwitherfx]

I will be honest with the gay kiss scene, it did almost make me feel like leaving cuz I thought that was gonna appear more throughout the movie and i was questioning if the movie was a lgbt one or not since i wasnt expecting to see that in a film for kids. Also, future buzz being zurg just messes up everything now and it makes the entire timeline confusing and lost. Disney is trying to expand its audience with the lgbt stuff and it doesnt even have to put lgbt in their films to get viewers because im pretty sure they already were viewers anyways. Its pointless, unnecessary and just plain stupid! Plus, we already know Disney is abusing diversity a lot more in their films just for attention. Film overall just wasnt interesting enough besides its impressions for its looks but it didnt work because every film nowadays seems to care more about the look instead of the plot. And with Toy Story 5 coming out, I think im gonna start watching dreamworks since theyre doing better and still making actual films with actual plots.

[@kingagrabowska9366]

@@renmcmanus I'm not taking it the wrong way. You are right. I don't believe in the stupid ''you need to see yourself in the character'' mantra. The story needs to be good and when you prioritize checking boxes the story usually is bad. And when you try to be as inoffensive as possible the characters tend to be bland and boring.

[@renmcmanus]

@@kingagrabowska9366 Thank you for listening. I agree completely good characters or unique stories are always the best option.

[@skyworksreferenceart8986]

if anything I would describe lightyear as a great representation of how far computer animation has gotten as you can't deny the movie was stunning and their was a whole lot of eye candy to go around; unfortunately the story was not well put together and all around failed most peoples expectations for this movie when it first came out. ill tell you the hype for light year before it came out was pretty good and i for one was excited to see it...... well, was excited to see it until I actually saw it and all that hype vanished almost as fast as it came out. and you know what I find it funny how lightyear was expected to be a box office hit then failed and then came around elemental which everyone thought it was gonna be a box office bomb (which it was for a bit) until word of mouth turned it into the success it is and that in my mind is ironic lol.

[@lugbzurg8987]

I can deny it. The film's ugly as dirt. Quite literally for a large chunk of it.

[@skyworksreferenceart8986]

@lugbzurg8987 well agree to disagree but I respect your opinion

[@samkilpatrick1259]

I don’t mind something like this existing, though it could’ve been way better than this.

[@80sKidfromthe90s]

I don’t like how they made Buzz immature.

[@crazyt7270]

The reason why Lightyear never worked it's because it wasn't Buzz Lightyear of Star Command the already perfect origin story of Buzz Lightyear that is 100 times better than this crap movie that was never needed in the first place.

[@lasercraft32]

They should have said it was a REMAKE or REBOOT (or heck, even a prequel) of the show Andy watched, because there's _no way_ this movie could have been made in 1995. If its supposed to be live action in-universe, then their special effects are wayyy too good. If its supposed to be an _animated_ movie in-universe, that's also way too good for the time period... And most of all, they would NEVER have a lesbian couple kiss on-screen in a movie supposedly made around the time Andy was a kid. If the kiss was somehow "controversial" in today's time, can you imagine how much backlash they'd get in 1995? When same-sex couples were considered extremely taboo??? I can only suspend my disbelief so far.

[@zoorockf1]

One thing I’m inquisitive about with the female + Female love is how she got pregnant? They are in space, so they have all the material and objects prepared into space? Did they have everything predicted like if they wanted to camp during the odyssey and get children without having any woes or trepidations about the upcoming peril. It’s another reason why it’s a nadir Pixar movie, it wasn’t thought through

[@MoRPho151]

That detail was not so conflicting to me because the colony still had men (they could have co-parent with a men to get pregnant, the same way homosexual couples in real life do sometimes, it is not so well known because is stigmatized but those arrangements do happen... They usually involve artifitial insemination now, but if they didn´t had that option they still can do an arrangement in the "traditional" way, if you understand what I mean). For me it is more unbelievable that they were able to build a colony that advanced so fast and without nothing at the beginning, honestly in general they didn´t pay too much attention to those details. They just let it like: they are more advanced and can do anything technological at the new planet.

[@JohnSmith-og1xq]

​@MoRPho151 could've been a transwoman

[@drownzi]

because frick biology i guess 😂

[@paulrasmussen8953]

​@MoRPho151 if it was a planned colony i might buy ot bit it was a crash landing i don't see them having the tech on hand for it

[@Unsweetened8618]

When I first saw the trailer, I liked it. I was surprise it flopped, what bad reviews. I didn't see this movie in theater's, or Disney+

[@maniacaldude]

That opening text bothers me so much, because of how they're trying to pass this off as THE definitive Buzz Lightyear origin story, THE movie that inspired Andy in-universe to get the toy, when it ultimately proves to be anything but. Instead of a fun, imaginative action packed sci-fi adventure like one would expect this movie to be, it presents a boring convoluted slog that feels more catered to older audiences than the kids that would actually get invested in the character of Buzz, and retcons the lore that we all know from previous Toy Story movies and the Buzz Lightyear of Star Command show into something totally nonsensical. The opening text proves to be a big fat contradiction, a hollow lie to justify this movie's existence. Let's be real here, this is NOT the movie that Andy saw in 1995, this is the "darker and edgier" reboot of Buzz Lightyear that came out in Andy's adulthood and proved to be a let-down and a betrayal of its roots, much like what the sequel trilogy was to long-time Star Wars fans in the real world. I remember seeing announcements of Lightyear that gave the impression that it would be the in-universe biopic for the astronaut that inspired the Buzz Lightyear toy. I guess THAT turned out to be a lie as well. On the plus side, the trailer did inspire a pretty kick-ass remix of David Bowie's "Starman".

[@rosykindbunny1313]

That remix was the one good thing that came out of this. Except maybe Sox. I love that little guy.

[@michaelbrent1536]

The prince of Egypt,The Matrix,Lion King(1997),Harry Potter Sorcerer Stone,Narnia The Lion Witch and Wardrob,Dreamwork Rise of Guardians,Nimona,Spiderverse,Sam Ramai Spider-Man and How to Train Dragon had great stories than this!

[@DeadFishFactory]

The gay kiss isn't what caused the movie to tank, but if they have it then it's indicative that the movie's gonna have other problems. The movie is straight up boring and the characters are extremely ugly other than Buzz himself because he's a legacy design. A Buzz Lightyear movie with no space and no aliens is stupid. It's like making a Star Trek movie but they crash land on a planet and we spend the entire movie watching them mine dilithium and constantly fail at it.

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

People caused so much drama for the gay kiss when it was like five seconds and overall added nothing to the narrative.

[@paulrasmussen8953]

​@@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343because parenrs are going to take kids to this movie and they don't want to address that issue yet. And its a red flag on the quality of the writing

[@nemesisstars1527]

They could of done similar to his toy counterpart even fighting against his father and such, they should of done a film about that which would of worked better

[@OpticalSorcerer]

Maybe it's my own bias, but I wish Pixar would leave Toy Story alone and expand the world of The Incredibles.

[@jamessteenwyk4703]

Ehh, the first Incredibles is one of my favorite Pixar films, but the sequel was one of Pixar’s most generic movies. And I really don’t see them making a sequel that stands up to the original. I personally would rather them leave the Incredibles alone

[@OpticalSorcerer]

@@jamessteenwyk4703 I enjoyed part 2 more than 1, personally. I think it gets looked down upon because it came out after the superhero craze, in contrast to part 1.

[@mray4784]

What they did to Zurg was what make me hate the movie.

[@odindarkll3706]

This movie is everything wrong with current Disney. From milking franchises that should of ended on Toy Story 3, forcing LGBT reps, to ruining their legacy character(s) by the dozens

[@rowlandandrew9597]

Hi Sox is the only good thing in this movie You have to love the robot cat And this is massively disappointing because Buzz is one of my favorite Disney hero and characters So just seeing how badly they missed the mark with Lightyear disappointing Buzz Lightyear of star command did the Buzz vs Zurg thing much more better in my opinion because it was fun and funny As mature of fact way isn't that movie on Disney plus yet It deserves to be on there

[@eggstermin8]

this movie feels like chris evans trying to justify steve rogers going back in time for peggy but using buzz lightyear as his cover

[@Unsweetened8618]

That dude ain't no movie star. Everything he does now, is surrounding around Marvel. He should've never retire from that role.

[@jonahdengler3858]

I wasn’t too sure this movie was very good right after I saw it in the theaters. 🤔😒

[@blackprism5381]

Do you wanna know what I hate it the most that this was the movie and he watched and this is what inspired him to get a bus light-year toy but somehow can’t even keep a good continuity I mean like how in the world did they reckon Zerg from being buzz light year’s father to buzz light year’s future version of himself how how do you messed up that late? Can you just need to remember that scene from the second movie? It’s not that hard.

[@hunterolaughlin]

That was just a joke to reference the “I am your father” line from Star Wars. It was never meant to be taken seriously. Heck, there’s even an episode of the Star Command cartoon where Zurg uses it as a distraction to throw off Buzz during their battle. So the show CONFIRMS Zurg is not Buzz’s father.

[@DarthVoxyn]

Regardless putting queerness into any movie is a HUGE turn-off. The vast majority of people are straight and while we accept that everyone has their choice who to sleep with, we don’t want that forced down our throats! I don’t even like ANY romance in my movies.

[@Amexy-mr6lw]

Am I the only one who thinks this movie is decent? Its kind of confusing, not as funny or wholesome as other Pixar movies and after the first 20 or so minutes it gets worse but it's kind of overhated imo. Elemental is much better though

[@skyworksreferenceart8986]

if anything the best I could describe lightyear was great eye candy cause you gotta admit the movie was visually stunning. wished the same could be said about the story though..... also yes elemental is way better as a story and still has that stunning visuals imo

[@nicholassims9837]

The big question is why no LGMs ?

[@reecepierce]

I know right probably because they pizza planet aliens

[@lovelaceackah216]

Honestly when first heard of Lightyear I was excited at first but turning red I didn’t really care about when Saw yeah I was disappointed but turning red I love it and better then Lightyear

[@joaquinm9148]

Lightyear: I’m the worst animated movie of 2022 The Sea Beast: bruh

[@hunterolaughlin]

Actually, The Sea Beast is better than Lightyear even with its similarities to How to Train Your Dragon.

[@joaquinm9148]

@@hunterolaughlin Bruh the lightning looks absolutely terrible and the dialogue is just “haha Bri’ish”

[@hunterolaughlin]

@@joaquinm9148 Still better than Lightyear.

[@AmericaFuckYeah4]

Strange World is Worse

[@joaquinm9148]

@@hunterolaughlin How? Lightyear tackles letting go of the past and not regretting your past mistakes every single day of your life (something I’ve done many times before) What does The Sea Beast teach me? How to speak British? I already knew that from GradeAUnderA’s videos anyway

[@joecoolskywalker]

In All Honesty I Forgot This Movie Was Coming Out And I Watched On A Flight And Didn’t Like It The Only Good Thing Was The Animation Of Course

[@JayRedGear]

The movie looks and feels so bland. Nothing about it is interesting and the side characters are just boring humans compared to the colorful cast of different aliens from the show.

[@featherguardian6023]

Aside of it’s Problems and Flaws I Like Lightyear as an Alternated Reality, it’s a Solid Film but it wasn’t enough to save it and it’s a Bad Stain for Pixar, to me it’s an Overrated Movie that could be a Cult Following but even there’s Limits and Slim Chances.

[@juanescobedo6156]

I hate this movie and lightyear version too

[@nas0518]

Aren't those the same film you hate?

[@juanescobedo6156]

@@nas0518 onward

[@JaeTheGent]

Gotta love the cope (the gay scene isn't why it bombed) whatever gets you to sleep at night

[@lordmegatrondoesntdodarken5852]

I would've preferred Warp Darkmatter being the main bad guy.

[@nan0smm646]

Buzz Lightyear was clearly meant to be a "Transformers" type of franchise in-universe, he was not inspired by a movie, his toy inspired merchandise and movies. This movie could still be canon but as a "2010s live action reboot that a lot of people did not liked" for me.

[@calypsoparadisepunchlemonade]

i think buzz looks uncanny as hell tbh like more than any human character in the 1995 film he looks like that mr incredible meme

[@StarKnight619]

wow.......im far more glad that I never saw this movie because I would want my movie back

[@sandragoheen4389]

I really like lightyear it is better than Toy Story 4 and I really hope it gets a sequel

[@pedroantonio5797]

Dude you talk a lot and dont say much in your videos, also they feel like you're just talking non stop about something, take some pauses to show footage or something else, listening to your voice non stop for 20 minutes is exhausting, even more when there's no sense of direction or order in your ideas

[@matthiasneidenberger9471]

I remember making a joke with some friends about how it was obvious Zurg was actually future Sox, but when we actually saw what happened we all said, that would’ve actually been a better twist than what we got.

[@meltingfire_alt]

as someone who liked this movie (I'm a zurg stan, i thought the design for him was good and the concept was cool) I agree.

[@KingOrest]

I swear that nobody watches movies/tv shows that came before.

[@Sachistar7591]

It didn’t work because this wasn’t believable as a 90’s action packed movie that Andy would be excited to see.

[@paulrasmussen8953]

Note of rhis was a 90s era film there would be no gay scene period

[@TheHighwaymanC-wo7dc]

I do want to say in defense of the parents who didn't want they're kids to see Lightyear because of the whole gay agenda is because they didn't want to have to introduce the idea yet. Although, I do agree that Lightyear instead failed mainly do to it being a boring, completely degrading and ruining Buzz's character, a generic movie, and overall just not well made or well written

[@elishabarkley7625]

Honestly i liked lightyear. Didn't understand all the hate

[@MrJackfriday]

about two girls kissing? yeah im not for it. dont want this to be mainstream... me not buying tickets is just my message to them.

[@marialopez-ql9ec]

When I first saw the trailer I was so amazed and mind blown, I mean it just looked to beautiful with the beautiful music, no joke it almost made me cry. And I was so excited to see Buzz go up against Zurg on another planet with a big machine on and for them to be revealed that service actually his father, I was so excited that this was going to be a film coming in 2022 and I really really want it to be great…but no, instead it was the dumbest movie with the stupidest player that has nothing to do with anything that toy buzz said in the first movie, and I had stupid woke gay lesbians just to make itself look good, and worst of all, as you don’t know…Zurg is not him fucking father! I hate this movie so much because of how much potential and wasted and how it could’ve been so much more. Everything was so cringe and unfunny. I had literally no reaction after the first 10 minutes of watching it, and after I was just mad at it. This is the biggest disappointment that Pixar, or Disney has ever made, heck it’s the most disappointing movie in existence for me personally. I hope they never do anything like this ever again. I did like Sox tho

[@levert2457]

Okay I'm going to defend certain things from toy story 2 with with actually happen in this movie in the time period Andy would have watched this movie. Video game adaptations might not be exactly what's going on here there's a good chance bus like you was a comic that has a movie adaptation on the way in a different company that has the game rights to us like you probably use the source materials to make the game months before the actual movie came out or even after showing two very different continues so I'm going to say Andy may have watched this and enjoyed it but the toy and merchandise had nothing to do with it.

[@alchemystudiosink1894]

Lightyear is the live action remake of the move that andy saw.

[@Manas-co8wl]

Judging from what I saw of Little Mermaid you guys probably lied about this one as well. Fuck if I'll ever trust you again.

[@karamixon5815]

The Owl house had better is.....KISS!😎Eat it.

[@nehemiahpouncey3607]

The black guy was pretty much the son of the woman.

[@flyingfish7787]

Even without the alphabet stuff in the movie, the story is just bad, and so much wasted potentials. Disney slapped wokeness on every recent movie to protect their ego when their movies was criticized. This stupid move prevents them form making the same mistake again and again, since they can blame everything on XX-ist to protect their glass made hearts, instead of learning from mistakes. The costumes of the seven non-dwarves in new Snow White is really hilariously bad, and that has nothing to do with politics. However, Disney won’t learn a thing, because they can blame anything on xx-ist again and again, till they become the face of bad movie company which attack fans repeatedly every single time they release a new movie.

[@PelemusMcSoy]

A quick reminder on the two women kissing criticism. Many people were annoyed with the preemptive "if you don't like this movie, you're homophobic" attitude. Because this type of delfection has been in full swing for years, it made people (correctly) suspect the film was going to be bad, and that angered the creators and actors enough to lash out at potential customers.

[@drownzi]

they’re shoving so much woke stuff on us in the new movies. a lot of people don’t want certain adult topics shown to their children and that’s a big reason why movies like this flopped.

[@TheDr502]

-No toys coming alive when humans aren't present -No bright, cheerful colors -No playful little children -No toys rescuing each other from certain doom -No toys at all, really. -Dark visuals with realistically rendered environments "Let's tie it to Toy Story!" - Someone at Pixar Buzz Lightyear was apart of a toy line marketed by cheesy commercials and a silly action cartoon (Buzz Lightyear of Star Command). Buzz Lightyear was a riff on whacky 1990s action cartoons that were meant to sell toys to kids, like Ninja Turtles, Swat Katz, Street Sharks, or Road Rovers. That's what this movie should've been, a movie inspired by 1990s action cartoons. Hell, the movie explicitly states that this was the movie that Andy saw back in 1995. Lightyear looks nothing like this. If they wanted to make a super-serious space drama, then they should've made a new movie. Now that I think about, this movie also looks really freaking detailed for a CGI movie from 1995. It's like the animators hopped in a time machine, went forward about 25-30 years, and then came back with cutting-edge supercomputers. Back in 1995, Toy Story 1 was as good as CGI got. Otherwise, most theatrical and straight-to-VHS animated movies in the 1990s were hand-drawn. This movie should've looked like The Lion King, Prince of Egypt, or Pocahontas, for example. Would've helped it stand out, too methinks.

[@krispchips2841]

It bombed because no one wants to watch woke movies 💀

[@LadyKjell]

I would have enjoyed the movie if it wasn't branded and made to look like a Buzz Lightyear movie, and instead just... was its own IP. So much of "Lightyear" was potentially interesting, but it wasn't Buzz Lightyear; it feels like one of those video game mods that just reskins all the characters.

[@mitchellalexander9162]

To this Day I will NEVER Understand why this Wasn't Just a CGI Remake of Buzz Lightyear of Star Command so we could get Booster, Mira Nova, XR, and Warp Darkmatter on Screen. Disney's No stranger to doing that to all of their other Movies to the point of Not just the Renaissance Films but LILO AND STITCH GETTING ONE IN THE PIPELINE! So Why not that one?

[@reecepierce]

I thought lightyear would tell like how buzz became a space ranger and how he met commander nebula on morph(home planet based on tempus from morph buzz's original name with lunar larry) also i thought it explain buzz's parents i always wondered because of buzz lightyear of star command only mention his nana lightyear John Lasseter hates the cartoon series

[@paulrasmussen8953]

John can be wrong

[@reecepierce]

@paulrasmussen8953 I'm serious John Lasseter does hate buzz lightyear of star command

[@paulrasmussen8953]

@@reecepierce i know abd he is allowed to be rwing on it

[@reecepierce]

@@paulrasmussen8953 ok

[@adampetty447]

The thing that got me was Tim Allen not returning as Buzz Lightyear.

[@arturosandovalsaito2704]

Even though I thought the movie was okay, it felt more like I was seeing the “live-action remake” of the movie Andy watched when he was a boy. (If you know what I mean) 😑

[@mardenborough.]

Lightyear A movie with a villain It flopped Elemental A movie without a villain A success "BRING BACK DISNEY VILLAINS!" they said 😂😂

[@dannysmi7162]

Yeah, good villains. A really bad villain is worse than no villain.

[@paulrasmussen8953]

Elemental didn't really do good

[@SBaker-my8ot]

I think a lot of people are missing the point that Lightyear might have been intended to be seen as a movie from the 90s, around the time Toy Story proper was released, and implied to take place in. Lightyear actually works if you view the film as a lost movie meant for the 1990s, that was only rediscovered in the present day. And don’t be “Umm, actually…”, you know what most movies from the 90s that aren’t Jurassic Park, or Independence Day, are like…

[@DRYeisleysCreations]

John Lasseter would've made a better standalone Lightyear movie. Change my mind.

[@mysterioussunshine2026]

Why didn't they make this movie similar to the light-year tv series

[@reecepierce]

John Lasseter hates it

[@switchboy2320]

Chris evens was ok but the movie was rushed. And now pixar has the same faith as star wars did

[@chava102]

Patrick Warburton was and is more Buzz Lightyear than Chris Evans will ever be!

[@Halfort57]

Because it neeeded to be a Captain America meets Star Trek with a dash of Star Wars. Instead we got a dumbed down version of Interstellar. That's why... ...Oh and also because of its severe indentity crisis and ludicrous tone deaf recurring theme.

[@1234_Flux]

This movie is such a disaster it's hard to believe it really exists. What in the hell were they thinking?

[@jackdccole]

Ya, this movie sucks. Go watch the deleted scenes.

[@KaeMcSpadden]

The other problem with the grounded realistic and gritty design is that it causes Buzz’s iconic suit and Zurg to look very out of place with their cartoony designs.

[@darkwoods1954]

They stripped the film of everything you'd want and expect from a Buzz Lightyear film. Instead of to infinity and beyond it was to one dull, lifeless planet and no further. They sapped the color out of it. Gave us a group of annoying, boring characters. Where was Star Command and the big, colorful space action adventures? The Buzz Lightyear of Star Command cartoon series is far better. It wasn't anything like a 90s sci-fi action movie that a little boy like Andy would watch and fall in love with. The human designs are so ugly too with the big ears and noses.

[@andreasmeelie1889]

If you think about it this is like if Andy was all grown up and took his kids to see a Buzz Lightyear movie because he wants his kids to grow up with Buzz Lightyear like he did. Only to find out much to his major disappointment that it's nothing but a cash grab movie that doesn't even follow the character that he loved so much at all. Then he abandons it and forgets that it ever existed. Lol I saw someone in a comment actually mention that once on a Lightyear video but I added in that last part. Lol I love the movie, Lightyear, but I couldn't agree more and Disney and Pixar really should have known better.

[@hunterolaughlin]

Actually, Angus MacLaine, the director of Lightyear, directed the CGI openings for the Star Command film and series and it’s never been reported he hated the show. It’s actually Toy Story creator John Lasseter that hates the SC series and film.

[@andreasmeelie1889]

@@hunterolaughlin Oh I either got that fact wrong or that person got it wrong. Lol Thanks for correcting me.😇