Why low pinion is better than high pinion-solid axle swap Chevy Episode 14

Yes, low pinion is better. And I explain why in this video.
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[@Christian.jsf1]

Awesome breakdown man.. giving info on angles, movement of the pinion shaft and all the hassles you get to avoid and benefits you gain.. upward travel hello..

[@tahoverlanding]

Upward travel is extremely important and it seems like it's the first thing to be abandoned in most builds

[@tothebar7935]

Low pinion is around 30% weaker compared to high pinion. The gears are trying to rip each other away compared to high pinion being driven together.

[@tahoverlanding]

You should skip to 9:25 , it specifically speaks to that claim

[@RANGDAP]

And the clearance

[@jimmyjack7141]

I have been thinking of doing this simular swap with the dana 60 from my 1994 Dodge 3500 into my 1993 k2500 Suburban.

[@tahoverlanding]

The 8 lug kits are shown here: tahoverlanding.com/solid-axle-swap-parts Below the the 6 lug kits

[@tahoverlanding]

Also your 8 lug GMT400 hub will bolt to the dana 60 to keep your ABS

[@Keithdoesit]

Some of what you said is not true. Link length difference and mounting spread affect the drive shaft lent it has nothing to do with radius arms being perfect or almost perfect setup. If you run it like that as the suspension cycles your castor changes. Meaning that your steering on the front of your tire when dropping out. Nothing is perfect but your doing a good job of explaining why you did what you did. But to each their own, and different strokes for different folks. Haha

[@tahoverlanding]

Keith, This isn't a Different Strokes scenario it's explaining principles, which even in this video I say it doesn't have to be perfect you just don't want it to be inches off, a 100% correct statement. Just because some people choose to ignore principles, doesn't make the principle not true. There's a thriving worldwide tobacco industry, that doesn't mean that tobacco isn't bad for you. radius arm setups will always have a Caster change as suspension Cycles. Is an absolutely unavoidable function of radius arm design. And I 100% stand by what I said that 100% perfect radius arm geometry if that were to be achievable (which it is usually not). Will cause for the drive shaft length to not change as a suspension Cycles. But that's not even actually the goal, if anything it's just a side effect of the goal. Which is to maintain proper U-joint working angles to avoid binding and vibration. I've installed dozens of custom suspension link setups on many different brands and configurations of vehicles. This information that I'm sharing came through a decades-long career in the off-road industry and the experience that goes along with that. Even in my current job I oversee 30 rigs that are radius arm. Edit: I forgot to ask did you go and watch the video that you commented on the preview for? kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYTbgoh8pdyakK8

[@isaacbarajas6907]

brother i saw your video where you build rock sliders with a step : i like them ! do you sell those already built ? i have a 2002 chevy avalanche 4x4 it is similar to the chevy suburban so its probably a little bit longer than the chevy tahoe

[@tahoverlanding]

I've built many slider/step sets for customers. But they are 7 feet long and a foot and a half wide thick steel each. So shipping costs would be horrendous. My guess is hundreds of dollars. Are you sure you aren't up to doing them yourself?

[@Christian.jsf1]

What is the possibility or doing this on other trucks? Nissan Titan maybe? I freaking want a Tahoe but have a Titan with a rear locker and 6inch lift already and haven't made the jump..

[@tahoverlanding]

So I'm sure it's possible for other vehicles. But the reason why this swap is so unique is that it fits in all of the dimensions available to the GMT 800 platform as if it was made for it. For example the radius arms literally tuck tightly into the reliefs in the frame that were used for the torsion bars The outer hubs and brake rotors from the GMT 800 work on this axle to make it 6 lug and have functioning brakes with just a simple spacer setup The steering box location of the GMT 800 is in pretty much the same location in relation to the axle as it is on the Dodge and therefore allows you to run the Dodge steering unmodified The frame width of the GMT 800 lends itself well to the coil spring spacing of the Dodge axle So basically there are a lot of factors that sort of come together on this particular swap making it a super awesome option. All of those above variables I listed would be different on a different make of truck. I'm sure you could make this axle fit but it wouldn't be quite as simple. And blessedly the Toyota industry is supported well by the aftermarket, there is a lot of available parts and knowledge to solid axle swap. The only solid axle conversion I've done on the Toyota was on a third gen 4Runner so I just am not an expert on that matter

[@Christian.jsf1]

@@tahoverlanding Dude... so rad. Yeah why waste your time on a bunch of stuff if you don't have to (using a different truck). Great info man. I hate my IFS on my Titan 😂

[@tahoverlanding]

@@Christian.jsf1 I wish I could be more help on your Nissan

[@Christian.jsf1]

@@tahoverlanding not needed.. I've wanted a Tahoe for like 2 years now.. life got in the way. I've spent so much money to get the Titan where I want it and it STILL has more limitations than a sas Tahoe. (That includes the cats I just replaced, power steering rack, alternator, starter, and fuel pump seems like it's going out now 😂) thanks for the vids..

[@tahoverlanding]

@@Christian.jsf1 you're welcome, I'll keep more coming. Maybe one day you'll pull the trigger and get one to build and then I can help you through that process 👍

[@thomasmullinsiii7759]

This might upset a lot of folks who are part of the high pinion master race. I've looked into high pinion swaps and there's no reason to. Like you said, clearance upward is better with low pinion anyway. And if someone were truly concerned with strength of a d44, they could truss the diff housing and axle tubes.

[@tahoverlanding]

Nothing kills upward travel like a truss. In fact I don't know if you can see clearly in the video I'm wearing a hat from artec industries. This is because I've purchased and installed so many trusses from them. Literally dozens. A truss only provides strength resisting axle tube bending. These data 44s have a wall thickness of just shy of half an inch thick. So the potential for axle tubes bending isn't very high anyway. Not like say the Jeep D44 that has wall thickness of only a quarter inch So trusses do nothing for most people. If you're going to have an axle failure, it's going to be axle shafts it's not going to be because you bent the tubes.

[@thomasmullinsiii7759]

Interesting. I know Toyota guys truss the 8.25 inch axles a lot (Tacoma, fj, 4runner, 1st gen tundra and sequoia)

[@tahoverlanding]

@@thomasmullinsiii7759 have you looked at what those axles are made out of? Toyota axles are made out of stamped Steel earlier I was calling the Jeep Dana 44 flimsy at one quarter inch wall thickness. Toyota doesn't even have a wall thickness of anything close to that and it's not tubing it's stamped Steel that's been welded

[@thomasmullinsiii7759]

Well, no. Just mentioning what I've seen on KZbin. However, I'm not an expert at all. Didn't know the tubes were super thin

[@tahoverlanding]

@@thomasmullinsiii7759 if I'm candid that is the whole reason I'm doing a lot of these videos is that people have seen something but don't understand the principle associated with it. A truss on a Toyota axle is probably a really good idea, a trust on a true solid axle with a half inch thick Dom axle tube like these have would be a massive waste of time and upward travel I'll be doing more videos about topics like this just to hopefully show people some of the principles behind what they've seen repeatedly on the internet

[@pranays]

Yeah because the ford 9 inch isn't the most used drag race axel. High pinion is strong on "keyboard " because math works.

[@tahoverlanding]

Math does work, what's the math again? I take it you have figures, values, calculations? Empirical data of any kind?

[@Country78155]

interesting! In over 40 years building various vehicles, I have never come across a solid front axle Ford 9" in the wild on a factory vehicle. Ford used IFS on it's 1/2 tons and Dana's on everything else.