Why Luka Doncic & Mavs Fell Short in BRUTAL Ending vs Suns | Dallas Mavericks Postgame

[@TheHappyWhale]

I know Mavs fans have given Dwight Powell a lot of flack in the last few years, but can we please appreciate that he has been playing his ass off while Lively has been out. Also, Tony Brothers please retire

[@derekjackson1039]

Powell really is a 4, decent passing and great hustle. He’s just undersized

[@ezekielespinosa7762]

If this team was as good as we were last year we wouldn't need the refs help to win. We should have blown these guys out especially Phoenix. Wtf happened to my Mavs this is trash 😢

[@reececisneros1622]

If he can stop getting 3-4 fouls a game then he’d be solid.

[@dcaustx]

Hear hear

[@Fast___Break]

Agree with the Dwight Powell point

[@ClintCarter.]

I can’t wait till tony brothers retires

[@brandonb6624]

Just like MLB forced Angel Hernandez to retire, the NBA needs to do the same to Tony Brothers.

[@JoshuaNazworth]

You know I totally agree with you I think Tony Brothers should retire because he did a lot of scandal last year against the magic he bet that the magic will lose 90 he he made the magic will lose to somebody and I think it was like 128 to 90 and he a bit he told one of his I hope the magic lose and I'm going to bed 90 billion dollars and that's illegal.? @ClintCarter.?

[@kimtoncoleman8934]

It was a foul! It was the correct call

[@mightymadman]

That's exactly what I said when the game ended lol he's trash

[@ClintCarter.]

@@kimtoncoleman8934 it was the correct all, just not the time to call it. And I’m referring to Tony’s entire career when I say I can’t wait until he’s out of the nba.

[@Velveteenvision]

Naji is a seamless fit. They don’t have to try to figure out how to fit him into the offense .. he just fits. He really is the best new player on the team.

[@mikecuperus4980]

He is a good fit, but he's passing up wide open shots, while forcing others. it's as if he's pre-determing wether he passes or shoots rather than making the decision based on the opportunity. He will probably mature just fine, very well-rounded.

[@rbeezy-]

Perfectly said Mr. Slightly

[@BlazaBraka]

After watching the Olympics its even more obvious how awful the NBA refs are.

[@FLWSTVTEMGMTA]

you re right

[@vipmeeurope]

SB IS 1000% RIGHT. All 3 REFS not just Tony.

[@undiscoveredstars1002]

HAHAHAHAHAH more excuses for fupa doncic

[@JoshuaNazworth]

@@vipmeeurope well you know what I totally agree with you but who's the third referee if it is not just Tony brothers and it's not Scott Foster but who else is it besides them.?

[@JoshuaNazworth]

@@vipmeeurope absolutely agree with you 1000% is total BS for all three referees not just Tony Brothers but who is the other referees then can you name those other three referees please.?

[@Ay-sd1sj]

@@undiscoveredstars1002 cp3 hits a huge 3 to cut the lead to 42

[@azmadeclutch9666]

@@Ay-sd1sjthat’s y’all’s ring 😂😂

[@datboytrav]

Ppl really trashing a coach that has taken us to the WCF and the finals in the past 3 years, IN NOVEMBER??

[@Dolencd]

As a European fan it was really hard for me to adjust to NBA referees. Ok, officiating is a lot of times biased mostly to make games interesting and to the wire. I can even try to understand that. The big issue is that referees are just all over the place. Totally unprofessional most of the time. I've never seen a referee struggle so much with traveling as they do in NBA. Not even in U12 leagues.

[@readmycomment3707]

Luka took 24 shots a lot of those in the paint and gets 3 FT? Ok man. Its clear the refs have an agenda against him, people say he complains too much maybe get your calls right and he wont have to. Agree with Slightly completely, every game so far this year has felt like refball, just awful and way worse than last year. Lastly, Im not letting Jason Midd off the hook. Dude made terrible adjustments and had no decent play to end game besides a Luka miracle 3 when they only needed a 2.

[@LonestarROB]

You're right the ref's have an "agenda" against Luka, but it's BECAUSE OF his constant complaining is why he doesn't get the calls, not the other way around. He's "earned" that reputation over his career. Like they said on the broadcast. "we were all hoping Luka would mature and change his ways after a Finals run but it's clear he hasn't learned anything" (not a direct quote) .

[@Pjdmffl]

@@LonestarROB. Go look at usage rates vs FTs the last 3 years. Luka has NEVER gotten his share of FTs. The lack of respect he gets is crazy when you see some of the players over him on FTA per possession

[@LonestarROB]

@@Pjdmffl 2020 - 3rd in FT attempts in NBA 2021 - 11th 2022 - 5th 2023 - 4th 2024 - 3rd

[@cognitivedisability9864]

@@Pjdmffl he's getting the allen iverson treatment, he got on the refs bad side.

[@readmycomment3707]

@@LonestarROB Not true, refs play favorites Steph/Jokic dont get many calls either

[@domoniquebassett2111]

Mavs will be unstoppable after All star weekend and fully healthy.

[@Thawk126]

3pt shooting is the problem. Other than Luka, team shot 28% on 6 of 21 shooting. Folks, these are mostly open set shots. Our offense is very simple, which with LuKai can still be effective, but you absolutely need a collection of dudes that can hit north of 36% consistently. It’s literally the reason we couldn’t challenge Boston last year.

[@tornadoesbigo]

Other than Luka 😮

[@TSQreacts]

Slow starts is a problem too

[@smitherines876]

lol if klay and kyrie got 12 3 pt FGA they would make atleast 5 , Luka bricking is more of a problem than the Others shooting 3s

[@Pjdmffl]

@@TSQreacts Luka trying to get others involved and passing up open shots in Q1 tonight. They should lay best when Luka starts strong. I get trying to get Klay involved but it’s hurting overall if Luka’s passing up open shots in the paint

[@Pjdmffl]

@@smitherines876 why don’t they get them? Plenty of opportunities

[@Sniperwolf16]

What a clutch play by Tony Brothers! Smh.

[@oliverdoctor4699]

Tony Brothers needs to be put in jail….

[@Damehowell7]

We need Lively! I don’t care if he starts or comes off the bench, his skillset is needed. Teams have been exposing our drop coverage/protect the paint philosophy.

[@dan31red]

Let’s go slightly, take the gloves off

[@onenutmonster]

Slightly MVP

[@cayce2337]

Luka at his lower usage level in his career is literally killing our offense. Get the ball back in his hand. Ignore the stupid critics who say he’s too ball dominant, that’s how the Mavs thrive. When he’s running the offense and taking shots.

[@iremainunimpressed1589]

Ummm hes the reason they lost tonight

[@halfdead_clothing169]

His usage rate needs to go down even more. Luka needs to learn how to move without the ball idk if that’s his fault or Jason kidd fault. Nobody can get in rhythm when one person is shooting a lot yes Luka had 30pts but it was a high volume 30pts. Spencer played 28mins and barely shot the ball because he’s looking for Luka that goes for him and grimes. They need more off ball action from Luka set a screen, cut to the hoop do someone other than dribbling the ball until 5 seconds left if you don’t have the shot kick it out with one second left. That’s bad basketball!!!

[@SDesWriter]

@@iremainunimpressed1589you’re definitely re tarded.

[@tornadoesbigo]

Luka is the PROBLEM

[@TSQreacts]

Luka consistently takes terrible shots in terrible situations. I'm not sure how much u want him to have the ball... but he has it plenty lol. Luka needs to work on his decision making

[@jetlee44]

The worst official group ever, we never win when they ref the game

[@undiscoveredstars1002]

Mavs fans and blaming refs😂😂😂 most pathetic fans in the league.

[@Dsparity-]

@@undiscoveredstars1002 you got 8 free throws timely in the clutch while same calls dont get called for mavs. Its clear as day, so tell me more about you being a casual. You guys cant talk sht in playoffs cause you just choke there :))

[@holdmylatte]

@@undiscoveredstars1002 so other fanbase blames refs like they are not pathetic. ok then. Keep hating

[@edouble9573]

refs weren’t the problem… Kidd played Dinwiddie 28 min while Grimes only played 9 min and the Kessler Edwards 90-second spurt may have been the worst ever - his per 36 min plus/minus was -96…

[@johncrabtree8857]

Valent effort in the 2nd half but dam they just start out so slowly. Another problem is bench scoring 28 to 9 isn't gonna get it done . Also klay has to hit his 3s . I'm not gonna blame officiating especially since the mavs shot way more free throws overall

[@Velveteenvision]

I really hope Klay starts hitting his threes. They would’ve won if he had made even 1/2 of them. But he only made 1 out of 7 😢

[@96wtfomg]

Chill he's had a bad game, it happens, for the most part he's been hitting them at a great rate.

[@rpol8540]

Slighty represents me

[@Ant_561]

Slightly killed it in the beginning great opening tbh 💯

[@3xtasy777]

Kidd may not be the most suitable coach for the Mavs. He has reached the limit of his coaching abilities. The lack of ball movement and players standing around while the team has two of the best off-ball players is unacceptable. Also playing Dinwiddie 20+ mins is a terrorist act.

[@maferreira1984]

Kidd is a roster manager, not a coach. Even when the fanbase is happy with him it's just because of lineup choices he gets right, not strat or play design. The whole "Luka is the gameplan" thing is bad. He's wasting both Luka's prime and this year's deep roster with all this toying around, improvisation, endless isos and hero ball. Ever since the Celtics showed the formula to the NBA -- stay home, drop cover, take away Luka's passes and live with him scoring 30-40 -- Mavs lack of coaching has been exposed.

[@mrshaheedmalik]

The lack of ball movement is because of Luka resisting a ball move offense.

[@cognitivedisability9864]

@@maferreira1984 You guys gotta stop, he got to the western conferance with a pretty mid team, and then to the finals with a team that had in large parts only been together for half a year, they now have TONS of new tools. They have to experiement to get ready for the finals run. Stop being short sighted and only living in the now.

[@maferreira1984]

@cognitivedisability9864 well did he, tho? Or he happened to be there? If Luka is the game plan, then it's all on Luka, for the good and for the bad.

[@floydfuji5992]

Slightly is 100% right

[@Krlzr]

Let 3 michelin star chef Slightly Cook!

[@greggilmore2907]

Damn.. Slightly getting his sh!t off lol

[@bchand9069]

I need to know how much editing was needed for this episode 😂

[@CRINGYGAMIN]

spencer

[@morriscastillo9587]

yeah, Slightly, you tell 'em

[@paytonreine9495]

Maybe the Mavs should straight up just scrimmage like 2-3 hours before each game lol

[@dannysmuzic1807]

I think when PJ/Lively are back, Marshall needs to start at SG (for defense) and Klay be 6th Man. Bench needs scoring and Starters need Energy. Klay prob get way more shots with 2cnd Unit imo. And Kyrie could use a defensive SG as a backcourt mate, like DJJr was.

[@sportfanatic5339]

I can’t wait to see this 2 minute report,because Royce O’Neale clearly shoved Daniel Gafford in the back.

[@Eddiee523]

This is why I will not pay to go to an NBA game with Corrupt Refs in this league who HATE to see Luka, Kyrie and the Mavs do well in this league! We can All See the Terrible calls against the Mavs that every other player in the league gets away with! And you see Luka, Kyrie get Fouled going to the rim or just shooting and getting FOULED and POS Refs watching and no whistle! REFS in this League SUCK so Bad I will NEVER spend a dime on the league to watch or buy anything to help this POS league with it's Crooked Refs! Fix this BS and make the game good again! 💩💩

[@kevinhowe3280]

They obviously hate luka and Kai. Luka is because of his mouth and probably because he's white. With kyrie it's the whole media jew stuff.

[@maferreira1984]

Tony Brothers bet the under on Doncic 30.5, so he couldn't let it go to OT.

[@Drhturner]

Dimwiddie is playing incredibly defence compared to Hardy. He’s been of great value to winning basketball. Spencer’s bright and a superb team defender. (And he doesn’t make the KNUCKLEHEAD plays or bad decision that Hardy does)

[@DEMONITION1723]

This one has nothing to do with sore losing. Even if we won. Still be pissed off. For both teams.

[@CRINGYGAMIN]

give grimes more mins

[@HalaMadridMavs]

I’m done blaming refs. How about don’t go down double digits every first half and we wouldn’t be in these positions. I blame Jason Kidd for not resolving this issue. We’re already 10% into the season no more excuses.

[@FLWSTVTEMGMTA]

He was screaming about it and cursed even during interview. Its not just on kidd

[@boochtron]

This Mavs team is not a title contender. Time for you Mavs fans to admit that

[@Pjdmffl]

Did you think we were going to the finals LY? If you say yes you are lying

[@jimmygreer2140]

The slow starts are annoying. But I feel like they are getting good looks for most of the time. I guess they just need to be locked in a little better. Maybe the problem is there is too much focus on the good start on offense that it should be the other way around. Get a REALLY good start on defense to help give your 1st quarter offense some juice. Cause honestly, the Mavs transition game has been pretty effing lethal. Especially with a Naji out there. You've got defenders scrambling to find Luka, Ky & Klay that Naji has all this space to drive the lane with. Hell, a similar thing happened with Grimes. I guess it may not exactly count as fast break but it was certainly still transition points. But the Grimes & Spence 2 man fast break where Grimes almost pulls back and getting ready for the offense to get back but the defender just goes to find Kyrie or someone leaving Grimes with a easy lay-in. That's the kind of pressure the Mavs fast break puts on teams, so if the Mavs can just lock in on defense to start the game....the offense will come. But I do wonder what happened to Grimes & Hardy. I can kinda guess with Hardy why he's back in the doghouse. But Grimes seems to be playing good ball whenever I see him out there. Saw him keeping Book and others from getting to the lane. And maybe he is settling for too many 3s but I've seen worse offense.

[@Someguy8822]

The problem with having Yes Man around you is Luka has now developed these habits that he can’t kick. He’ll be better for 1 game then reveeet back to his old ways. The refs clearly have a memo against him to not make calls and until he Shits the hell up and plays without yapping to refs every other play and throwing his arms up he’s not going to get calls. He doesn’t understand that he’s digging his own grave with the refs with all his bitching

[@kbthegoat824]

Remember in playoffs where it was so bad and every one called him out. He changed for 1 game then reverted back after. Some things will never change, gotta accept who he is at this point.

[@mikecuperus4980]

@@kbthegoat824 That one game was my favorite moment of the year, I was convinced Kyrie gave him the come to Jesus. I noticed tonight that Markeiff was waiving him downcourt to play d, and he immediately responded. Is Markeiff gonna save us?

[@mikecuperus4980]

absolutely. the refs are just refs, and thus neutral, until you piss them off so completely that they collectively galvanize against you, forming (effectively) a third team on the court, 2 vs 1. Its a psychological game, and his behavior is predictably inimical to his team's success, which might still be o.k. if he would hustle back on defense, but...

[@Someguy8822]

I agree to an extent but refs aren’t neutral. The NBA definitely has a reffing problem and don’t get me wrong, Luka is likely getting fouled at least half the time he complains. Hopefully a lower viewership will shed light on the NBAs problems but if there has been elections where the results were clearly rigged (2020), think how badly compromised this sport could be. Tony Brotherw reffing crew is a clown show.

[@mrshaheedmalik]

He had Rick and he still bitched. The problem isnt Rick or Kidd, the problem is Luka.

[@flaviolacerda6513]

Spence being there in crunchtime instead of naji was just insane..

[@Sylv1ception71]

Ok it's very frustrating, but there's a lot of positives, I would never have thought that we would have been so close to beat the Suns without Lively and PJ.

[@spooky-mulder]

Spencer Dinwiddie needs to be aggressive. 2 shots in 28 minutes? Literally every game, he goes out there and facilitates/lackadaisical in the corner, does what the coaches want him to do, but he needs to attack the basket with the aggression he had in 2022 (and 2023 when Luka was injured) when he'd hit big threes and driving dunks. Dinwiddie is facilitating, complying with coaches to the T, and thinking too much when he needs to react and attack. Spencer is way too versatile, smart, and impactful to be relegated to a robot following orders.

[@CRINGYGAMIN]

put klay off the bench

[@jimmygreer2140]

I understand what Slightly is saying. That call at the end AND taking a look at the replay is just too much. No one wants a really good game like that to end in that way. But what was annoying me even more was how they were calling Gafford.

[@TSQreacts]

No way a game like this goes down to a nurcic loose ball foul w .8 secs left. Ridiculous

[@thepabs911]

Haven't watched the vid yet, but here is what I got... Luka needs to take his career more seriously and get in shape, lose some weight, and forget the refs exist. Mavs need to rebound better, full stop! Mavs bench, and Klay need to hit more shots. Too many open look clankers. Kidd needs to quit f-ing around in early season and try to build a winning culture. Defense HAS to be more consistent. They will go nowhere without doing so. Maxi needs to quit getting hurt. My God man!

[@Trollthug915]

Luka is physically declining at age 25 lol

[@Pjdmffl]

Wow…wild Luka take

[@beastscale1892]

Now the guy who said Quentin Grimes over Josh Green can be quiet now. I already said it before the season that this bench was iffy with the 3 guards and Kleber(Health) and it was going to be a trial for new faces like Naji, Klay, and Grimes to pick up on Kidd's Defensive schemes but I didn't expect Quentin Grimes to bomb this hard especially on defense. Its not just him not showing communication but he constantly gets beaten in 1v1. Without Kyrie working magic in his staggered minutes with the 2nd unit the Bench would've looked like a train wreck this season. Its insane the type of gravity Kyrie generates on Offense to get Naji, Lively, and others clean looks. This shouldn't get underrated either. Without Kyrie then Luka would've needed to be in this position which would mean he would need to play 42-43 minutes a night which we all know how that went in the 2022-2023 season after Brunson left. Now what's next after this little rant? I'm officially starting the clock on the 3 stooges on the bench that is the guard trio(Spencer, Hardy, and Grimes). 10-12 games to see who can win the SG off the bench role between Spencer and Hardy(Exum coming back so 1 has to go). Grimes proving if he can hustle as a defender and opportunistic player on offense. If he can't then I say ship him off and give O-Max his minutes since he plays the SF spot in his bench minutes rather than SG. O-Max frame, quickness, and Wingspan fits this better than PF which isn't his game. If O-Max can't handle it then find out with Kessler Edwards got. Kleber when he gets back got 12 games to get it together but if he can't hold up then I'm shipping him to Brooklyn to get DFS back as he's got the strength and size to handle the PF position with better durability. He just help lock up BOS and Tatum on multiple possessions tonight.

[@ezekielespinosa7762]

I agree and. Let we're the f is Jazz G? I think he should be playing by now. These other guys suck

[@beastscale1892]

@ezekielespinosa7762 If you mean Exum then he hurt right now. Might not be back till late January

[@ezekielespinosa7762]

@beastscale1892 I was referring to Jazz Gortman. But Exum missing hurts us 2

[@dpend]

I commented this on another Mavs channel: this season reminds me why it’s not smart to have high expectations of something you can’t personally control. I thought Mavs would be a contender this year, and they look absolutely trash. Such a let down from last season but just have to accept it

[@beastscale1892]

@ezekielespinosa7762 He too young to lead the bench and short to be a defensive guy. He is under G-League development at this moment

[@jimmygreer2140]

I did feel like Gafford got all ball before he fouled. So if there was a foul it was probably on Kyrie. But man, that game REALLY deserved overtime to decide the winner...not the refs.

[@jimmygreer2140]

I was surprised Powell only played 25 minutes. I feel like he had to be in the 30s with Gafford's foul trouble. But I've been really surprised with his play. I know he's never gonna give Kidd that 5 out small ball lineup but to me this has been the best small ball lineup I've seen from the Mavs since the Warriors WCF. At least the Powell small ball gave the Mavs a chance to get some stops on defense. The Maxi small ball may be pretty amazing on offense but it is utter and total shit on defense.

[@JohnnySmith-x2b]

When you playing one of the top 10 players of all time with no one can guard him and the refs so inconsistent in their calls. Thought overall it was a great game with the stars going at each other let the players determine the outcome not the refs.

[@vipmeeurope]

LD 3 FT in all game.

[@undiscoveredstars1002]

All His flopping and foul baiting ain’t working and he looks average. Hilarious

[@anrkyking720]

@@undiscoveredstars1002 haha so emotional. Grow a pair someday?

[@undiscoveredstars1002]

@@anrkyking720 coming from a luka fan?🤣🤣🤣 when luka starts to defend I’ll stop picking up your mom on Sundays

[@anrkyking720]

@@undiscoveredstars1002 see that’s how I know you’re an emotional child. Because only children make assumptions. Grow a pair, stop whining and learn ball 😂✌️

[@anrkyking720]

@@undiscoveredstars1002 ah what a clever boy, maybe when you grow a pair you can get on stage and be a clown for all of us 🫵🤡🫵

[@MessiahKnight]

Can’t wait for the slightly play back vids

[@96wtfomg]

Denver and Golden State next, you gotta win at least one of these two next

[@Streets3544]

When y’all gonna realize regardless of how we tweak our offense or defense it’s going to come down to coaching and that’s a problem JK…… not having enough ball movement no motion just settling for certain shots

[@Pjdmffl]

3rd rated D in league….

[@bournejason6083]

only if Luka becomes as efficient as last year , we can still pull through

[@Thawk126]

Agree. What interesting is other than games 2 and 3, Luka’s 3pt accuracy is higher than last season. His 2pt fg% is absolutely lower, and historically, that is what sets him apart from most other great players. It does cause me to question whether last years fouls are being called. But we need a bigger sample of games to confirm,, as I’ll give some blame to the incorporating the new players and Luka coming in to the season without normal practice / preseason reps

[@bournejason6083]

@@Thawk126 yeah he is cold rn , yeah he got 30, 7 and 7 against the suns but he still ain't his normal self yet , hope he can get it together against jokic cuz if he cant we will be down 5-5

[@jesstiss222]

31:50 famous last words 😏⚒️🔥

[@chunkymay1650]

Silver Out, Slightly In 👑

[@martinh5182]

Team went back to starting slowly. O-Max proves once again he’s not ready, if he ever will be (e.g., he can’t be missing totally uncontested layups) - and, having to play O-Max and Edwards was like Kidd saying we’ve run out of NBA caliber players. On top of that, Klay has yet to be Klay - hope that resolves soon. With all of that, this appears to be top form for the Suns and the Mavs hung in there in what under normal refereeing at the end would have been an overtime game. Naji looks great. Hopefully, these next couple of games will have different results.

[@mlane95126]

Felt like a 2022 game. If you can’t get stops you won’t win

[@Bonus1123]

Slightly went off here. It's that shitty how these NBA refs are hot garbage.

[@m9ch15l]

I dont like to blame the refs.. we already know anything could happen with the refs.. but the mavs put themselves in that situation bcus they gave up too many rebounds even before that last possesion

[@FLWSTVTEMGMTA]

Give grimes solid minutes and we ll talk in 1 month

[@-deedee]

Once again feels like the Luka and Kyrie show and nobody else giving anything. Need to fix lack of effort in first halves. No excuses. Also Luka looks like he’s on game 70 just slow and tired and heavy. Not sure what’s going on there.

[@kbthegoat824]

He's on a trajectory to have a short career, a decline from what he was last year and he's only 26. The age where he should be at his very best.

[@Ay-sd1sj]

Naji scored 18. Klay scored 12. Lukas first half was abbysmal.

[@ellieswagaye]

@@Ay-sd1sjnot nearly enough

[@ellieswagaye]

@@Ay-sd1sjLuka still carried

[@ellieswagaye]

Luka doesn’t look like he’s on game 70 he fucking outscored the entire suns. Tell this sorry bench to step up or they’ll be going to China. Also quit it with the stupid narratives.

[@guilhermelemes7490]

this is how you rob a team at his own home floor but the mavs should do better.

[@ellieswagaye]

These comments man my god, how is defense STILL the point of discussion in a game where they were outscored by 20 in the first and blew a random lead for no reason? Fuck stops we need scoring so desperately it’s depressing to watch this shit now. At least we got a Dwight Powell legacy game.

[@ronmoody3001]

WELL DIM DIDNT SCORE MUCH BUT HE AINT F UP EITHER AND EVERYONE ON OUR TEAM NOT GONNA SCORE A LOT EACH GAME.... AND AGAIN GAFF IS THE STARTER & HE PLAYS FINE

[@cognitivedisability9864]

I was damn near yelling in the living room watching this game, and not just the refs etc. Luka too with his crying to the refs... I get why he is frustrated but man, get back on defense.

[@nickwilson9216]

At this point luka should come out and say he will sit every game Tony brothers refs he is single handily ruining our sport and the nba doesn’t care

[@bryansmith4135]

NBA Refs Have Always Been 🗑️

[@cayce2337]

You are gonna miss calls in a game but how is it that all the missed calls went against the Mavs tonight?

[@TanyaMalka]

Nick I posted this on other shows but I think Kidd was mistakenly referring to Omax not Grimes in his post game comments

[@heribertbruchhagen1458]

Is there a statistic about our games when Tony Brothers is officiating?

[@Pjdmffl]

We were 3-3 last year but he called the 2nd most fouls of all refs on Mavs and the FT differential was -6. Dagher (who was also on the crew vs Suns) called 3rd most LY and the differential was -15

[@KilgoreTrout1983]

ugh, this one hurt, refs gotta go

[@carnivalgods4573]

Yes it was a frustrating loss but its early. Phx is playing well, we are dinged up a bit, and Kidd is still figuring out his rotation. Only thing that bothers me is his insistence on playing Luka and Kyrie over 40 minutes yet again. Stop doing that. Long season, on to the next one.

[@Thisisrance]

Luka declining at 25 needs to be studied. Lose weight man… it’s hella frustrating

[@kbthegoat824]

At 26 where nba players reach their very best. Luka has is getting worse. Might go down as a star that didn't take this game seriously enough if things don't change.

[@Thisisrance]

@@kbthegoat824glad I’m not the only one who sees it. Wasn’t it like two seasons ago when he was throwing down put back dunks and stuff?? He looks 35 out there

[@PeterWilson-c3u]

​@@Thisisrance Luka is currently shooting 40% from the field and 34% from three. That's Bronny James territory!!!

[@PeterWilson-c3u]

@@Thisisrance Jokic, Embiid, LeBron, *Kyrie, Shai, KD, and Giannis all are able to thrive because they ALL regularly shoot 50%+ from the field. Luka had 30 points on 25 attempts, whereas Kyrie had 29 points on 17 attempts

[@Thisisrance]

@@PeterWilson-c3u people are calling it a “slump.” This started in the playoffs. It’s like he has a new injury every quarter. Once again… dude needs to get in shape. Is it his knee? Is it his groin? Is it his calf? I think it’s the yips and carrying around an extra 30 lbs

[@smag7477]

This loss is mostly on Jason Kidd.

[@Nooosirrr2231]

The refs are ruining basketball 100%

[@-deedee]

Nick love ya but please stop interrupting slightly

[@Eddiee523]

So SICK of seeing Mavs 5 on 8! Refs might as well wear the opponent's jerseys during the game cuz we can all see they are doing anything they can to help the other team win with BOGUS calls and BS Techs and Fouls! Refs gave PHX that game with all the BS touch foul calls on the Mavs while the other team gets to grab, hack, foul and no whistle from Refs against Mavs shooters!

[@martinh5182]

Wonder why no foul was called on O’Neal when he shoved Gafford out of position allowing Nurkic to rebound the ball at the end of the game. In that case, Gafford should have been shooting those final free throws, right?

[@roneteus]

Dwight seemed quick at times, like almost Josh Green quick.

[@maferreira1984]

Btw what's with Kessler Edwards playing over Grimes?

[@beastscale1892]

Grimes gets cooked on defense leads to this

[@maferreira1984]

@@beastscale1892 wasn't Grimes supposed to be a good point of attack defender?

[@beastscale1892]

@maferreira1984 That's what was advertised but here we are.

[@angelrivera-sj6gk]

The refs are truly corrupt.

[@dpend]

Mavs 0-2 Suns 0-2 Refs 2-0

[@Mavericks787]

Towards the end of last season and playoffs the team rotations were awesome. They have the personnel to kind of run it back, maybe even better. But they are doing something totally different Naji in the starting line up for DJJ Klay of the bench as a THJ Grimes consistent minutes as Josh Green That’s basically the same team, why change it so much?

[@ThePR224]

Game 5 of asking for lively to start as soon as he returns (yes, gafford had a good game)

[@kevinhowe3280]

Dinwiddie is literally getting a better whistle than luka and Kai

[@-deedee]

Luka just physically does not look good to me at all. Idk what’s going on. Still looks hurt. Looks like post season last year all over again.

[@edwinblack-rw5xk]

He's not fit and heavy trying to play against the best athletes on the planet.

[@-deedee]

@@edwinblack-rw5xkyeah idk if it’s injuries stopping him but physically he looks too big. He looked great last season I wanna see December 2023 Luka he looked so much quicker and lighter. He looked good on media day this year idk what happened

[@anrkyking720]

Awful by the league

[@Tyler_Durden987]

100% about underwhelming Gafford

[@bournejason6083]

Kyrie is as good efficient as ever , if luka can get back in shape , although Klay is unreliable we can get to the playoffs this year

[@Mr.B-79]

I don"t get how can Tony Brothers or Foster and some others still be on the court. They are super old. You don"t see so old referies in Europe. I think is obvious why. You just can"t follow the game at his age. It"s natural. For some reason you heve fosils on court in NBA. Quality of calls is way worse than in Europe as result. Its terrible actualy. About the Mavs: I think they were just not good enought in this game. Specialy bench. Only 9 pts from the bench??? To many missing players and bench is not good enought to even play more than few minutes. More or less they played with 7 players.

[@dannysmuzic1807]

That's a block and the hand is part of the ball. Nurkic had both hands on the ball and Gafford got gall first, before the hand contact. I thought the new rule allows for Discovery by Refs, while they review plays??

[@matthieusaade3616]

Can't win with Tony Brothers 😂

[@rmr9345]

Fantastic game spoilt by refs. It seems other refs are always instructed by TB. Missing Lively and missing Sharp (that was bad decision to let him go). These days team with the tallest guy wins the game. Sengun or Nurkic. Luka is not fully fit. Or playing defence is deflating him.

[@Veyronp87]

we just need to get healthy and continue to gel. last night sucked with the refs involvement but its clear we are still one of the best in the league even if the record right now doesn't suggest so.

[@CM-ze1hf]

Go get DSJ.. need more high energy guys like naji

[@charlesbolstridge3871]

The reasons the ratings are down is because everyone that covers the NBA from you guys to ESPN all keep telling all the viewers that it sucks. From complaining about the referees to about the way that the games played today with shooting threes. Nothing but complaints from every reporter I watch that the NBA sucks and they wanted to go back to what it used to be😅

[@winitforal]

The amount of crying in here is insane. Dinwiddie clearly pushes O'Neale right before O'Neale pushes Gafford

[@bepperappa1856]

Klay Thompson took his first open shoot with 5 minutes remaining in the fourth quarter. No plays for him, just iso. We need a coach ASAP. 5-4 is a brutal start for a team who came off the Finals.

[@Velveteenvision]

Good players should be able to make difficult shots. He had 13 shot attempts and only made 4. And 1/7 3pm - only 14%? That’s insane. Is it really that he can only make wide open shots? If so I think that’s a problem.

[@bepperappa1856]

@@Velveteenvision If you think that the 2024 version of Klay Thompson can play just like Kyrie&Luka that's a problem and you don't know what kind of player you signed. This is no coached team, i hope Nico will not discover it when it's too late.

[@kbthegoat824]

​@bepperappa1856 klay has never been that good, watch his past final performances. He's not on that level. Even in 2016 when gsw crumble he averaged like 16 on low 40% from the field as the second scoring option for gsw.

[@bepperappa1856]

@@kbthegoat824 He is here to take open shots but Dallas can't create them despite the presence of Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving... We play iso after iso after iso after iso. It's a no coached team. Unfortunately our superstars can't save Kidd lacks of coaching every games. If you think Klay Thompson is the problem of this brutal start it's ok, i really hope you are right but probably it's just the easy way to see the situation.

[@kbthegoat824]

@@bepperappa1856 never said he was the problem, just said he's never been a guy to rely on as far as offense, especially when things get tough. Seen it time and times again when he was in gsw. He's a good complimentary to ky and Luka, long as he makes 3s but people shouldn't expect him to consistently create his shots and give you 20 ppg at will, not gonna happen. Kidd is def not a championship level coach, it's obvious, he brings no fire to this team, guys are too relaxed. It's all about relying on the stars with him.