Why Manga is Outselling US Comics - A Fundamental Reason

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@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881
@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881 3 жыл бұрын
It also helps that there's a synergy between anime and manga. Alot of people get exposed to the anime first then when they want more they know the manga can give it to them. You won't get that with u.s. comics, just the gist of the same few characters reinterpreted although at this point that term is just a fancy buzzword in the west for gimmick. Even recently with demon slayer the movie was canon to the story at the end of the first season of the anime and follows the events of the manga, turns out it paid off massively.
@rxddhxh2901
@rxddhxh2901 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@ThePreciseClimber
@ThePreciseClimber 3 жыл бұрын
True, true. The recent Invincible cartoon was more faithful than most superhero comic adaptations usually are and - surprise, surprise - it notably boosted the sales of the original comic! 400,000 copies in 2021 alone (by the end of August). It also helps that the Invincible comic is just as easy to get into as a manga. There are 12 numbered hardcovers. Alternatively, you can get 3 massive omnibuses. That's it. Simple & clean.
@ThePreciseClimber
@ThePreciseClimber 3 жыл бұрын
I do wonder if "canon" anime movies (the ones that adapt manga material) are going to become a trend. You got the ultra successful Demon Slayer movie, the Made in Abyss movie and also the upcoming Jujutsu Kaisen movie.
@SgtSega
@SgtSega 3 жыл бұрын
In the 90s, I saw the X-MEN animated series and got into the Comics from there. It's the same effect as Anime to Manga.
@Bolbi145
@Bolbi145 3 жыл бұрын
You said it, even our more accurate adaptations like Avengers Earth’s Mightiest Heroes still changes a lot of things
@paulmoore5392
@paulmoore5392 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest thing is that Manga is so much easier to get into. For example, you wanna read One Piece? Cool, just read One Piece volume 1 until whichever time you want to stop and that's it, Marvel and DC? Well if you want to read most characters like let's say Batman, you gotta read individual Batman books, than you have to read Justice League, than there are elseworld stories which can get confusing as to which is elseworld and what isn't. Manga, you just need to read one series whereas for most Marvel and DC characters, you gotta read so many series when you just wanted to read for one character
@david43072
@david43072 3 жыл бұрын
it can be like that in manga too fate series for example
@Markcus003
@Markcus003 3 жыл бұрын
@@david43072 yeah but from what i know fate, steins gate and dragon ball are probably the only close example of that.
@paulmoore5392
@paulmoore5392 3 жыл бұрын
@@Markcus003 Exactly. Something like fate is more the exception where as with Marvel/DC comics, that is pretty much the normal
@SgtSega
@SgtSega 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the suits at the comic companies said people are afraid of big numbers on the issues. But that's what collected volumes are for. Now if only they didn't charge outrageous prices for collected graphic novels of comics even for paperbacks, you'd see the same sales figures as manga. Nobody cares about constant reboots. They want ongoing adventures. One Piece understands this perfectly. Naruto did too. So did Bleach once.
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 3 жыл бұрын
And this is not even getting into how there is multiple Spiderman and batman books running at the same time. Also constant re-boots. And what if and elseworlds are mostly terrible and don't matter cause not canon anyway.
@runbaa9285
@runbaa9285 3 жыл бұрын
The story continuity between manga and its anime adaptations probably also helps manga sales. After a viewer is finished with the currently adapted material, they can pick up where it left off in manga-form if they're not patient enough to wait for the next season. I can't say the same for most western comics, unfortunately, where most of its adapted medias are loose adaptations of the comic stories. Case in point, the popularity of the MCU doesn't really boost the sales of its source material by a whole lot. There are cases like Invincible, where aside from a few minor differences, those who watched the first season can pick up where the show left off and continue reading the comics. And surprise, surprise, the animated series boosted the comic sales by a lot.
@devonvanleeuwen1803
@devonvanleeuwen1803 2 жыл бұрын
It also helps with invincible that it's just 1 serie people know where to pick it up and it has a real ending unlike with dc marvel comics that are always never ending storys
@supes12587
@supes12587 3 жыл бұрын
Another reason, manga is originally published in anthology magazines like shonen jump and the majority of those stories will fail within a few issues. The stories that get collected in tankobans, which are primarily how the west consumes them, are the best of those and don’t receive the tankoban treatment until they’ve been published for year or more and have been picked up for an anime adaptation. Fundamentally, the way manga and American comics are published are completely different.
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 3 жыл бұрын
Right also "floppies" or single issued needed to die in a fire a long time ago.
@supes12587
@supes12587 3 жыл бұрын
@@turtleanton6539 floppies are pretty much speculative investments at this point. It’s such a niche market. Everyone I know who reads weekly issues reads digitally.
@commentarytalk1446
@commentarytalk1446 2 жыл бұрын
This seems "A MORE FUNDAMENTAL" point than the "A Fundamental" point: Excellent point. 1. Market competition on enough diversity of stories, art, creators an sifting the best. 2. The best are packaged into MORE pages for better PRICE (after the above HIGHER QUALITY) 3. Manga are easier to store (as per the video) and easier to read/commute with and easier to know where to read ie volume 1,2 etc 4. Manga synergize with Anime. 5. Throw in the defects of Western Comics: Rehashing (just look at the front covers where they stand school-photo line up - they do that in films and it's a sign the director has run out of ideas so uses the big school photo shoot scene for impact where they're doing nothing) then add in: 6. Western Propaganda has even reduced the quality of these comics (already suffering) further! Let alone lack of competitiveness in market and in quality! Overall, I read spiderman (amazing) as a kid, loved it. But since then it's the same old formula. I found Slaine the Horned God as xmas present colour graphic novel and it was staggeringly fresh: Violence, Sex, Celtic Myth, FRESH ART etc... eventually I found manga and the style of art and stories were so diverse eg GTO then of course anime comes on the scene and there's so much of it that there's enough high quality new ones at a good frequency and FRESH. Worse, in recent years the propaganda is worse than communism or the 3rd reich propaganda seeping into Western Comics. Trash. Digital is an interesting development too: Cheaper and easier to store and on a 2-in-1 can read in portrait mode as well which is awesome quality for manga.
@vonfaustien3957
@vonfaustien3957 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically anthology books is how westren comics started. Take detective comics now its just batman but orginally it had diffrent characters and if one stuck like batman they got a book. Early comics had a similar model to manga anthologies
@halaneverson4549
@halaneverson4549 2 жыл бұрын
@@vonfaustien3957 i grew up in brazil, all dc/marvel comics were published in anthology model too, like in the same magazine we had Alan Moore' s Swamp Thing/Pérez Teen Titans and Batman. In U.S you can still buy 2000A.D and Heavy Metal, both anthology megazines too
@ductuvlog3658
@ductuvlog3658 3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly described. One major reasons that get me invested into manga is, I can always pickup where I was lost. Unlike comics with different writers come different ideas and interpretations. I was confuse with the origin of certain character as it isn't concrete.
@amarikwa888
@amarikwa888 3 жыл бұрын
Not all comics are like that, slot have simple linear stories such as walking dead, invincible, Umbrella Academy and many many more.
@whothewu
@whothewu 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing that Hellsing deluxe edition does make me wonder if this form factor preference may change, especially with the popularity of the Berserk deluxe releases.
@ThePreciseClimber
@ThePreciseClimber 3 жыл бұрын
Deluxe manga editions are great and I wish there were more of them. Particularly because I like seeing the colour pages in actual colour. That's one annoyance I have with manga tankobons. I wish all original colour pages & spreads were still in colour. The recent Polish release of Shaman King did this and I was very happy about that. But it's still a rarity.
@HobbiesofaMan
@HobbiesofaMan 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. You really hit it on the head for the young buyers. I would and do definitely buy manga over floppies at any given time
@qtarokujo3694
@qtarokujo3694 3 жыл бұрын
probably another reason why manga is selling better is because their stories are self-contained in their own universe, making it easier for new readers. Marvel and DC loves to brag about their cross-overs and multiverses and while that could work with movies and TV, comics on the other hand becomes too hard to follow or start for new readers. There's just too many characters and too many storylines and too many universes to catch up to. With manga, stories are contained and often structured in arcs making it easier for readers to follow the story. Ask someone to read an X-Men comic and they'll ask "Which one?" Ask someone to read Demon Slayer and they'll go straight to reading it.
@Wiki1184
@Wiki1184 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I always thought about getting into X-men, but there is so much going on that it's pretty intimidating on where to start and on my wallet.
@jjsamuelgunn1136
@jjsamuelgunn1136 2 жыл бұрын
The irony is the two genius publishers started the whole crossover and multiple titles nonsense because they wanted to sell more comics, Avengers fans would have to pick up a Hulk comic and an Iron Man if they wanted to read the entire story. Spiderman was popular character, so they put out 5, 6 , 7 titles per month. So to Xmen and so you had all those multiple mutant titles. But like you said, it started to turn off the audience. Don't ask wtf is going on in the Marvel or DC universe today because I stopped reading those titles years ago.
@thomasallen9974
@thomasallen9974 2 жыл бұрын
It also has an effect on having the audience being able to easily talk about the manga. Since there is just the one storyline typically for manga its easy to talk about it to others and thus for people to quickly find likeminded people and similar discussions. It builds and fosters a community much more easily and encourages you to find new stories when your favorite is over/in wait.
@Boba_Fettuccine.
@Boba_Fettuccine. Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this video. My perspective has been opened in a lot of ways
@govindamishra3746
@govindamishra3746 3 жыл бұрын
Not only comics but beating Light Novels too They r adapting the Mangas into light Novels and beating the OGs 😂😂
@lesley7137
@lesley7137 3 жыл бұрын
Or the light novel is the original and they adapt it into a manga
@ashrafhakim379
@ashrafhakim379 3 жыл бұрын
@@lesley7137 what the difference between manga and light novel
@travelphilippinesbeautiful747
@travelphilippinesbeautiful747 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashrafhakim379 light novel is the novel/textbook version of the story, manga and manhwa are the visual version of the story.
@ashrafhakim379
@ashrafhakim379 3 жыл бұрын
@@travelphilippinesbeautiful747 so its like normal novel with story without any drawing?
@govindamishra3746
@govindamishra3746 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashrafhakim379 It Has 1 or 2 full page Illustrations per chapter.
@lesley7137
@lesley7137 3 жыл бұрын
Quite the production increase! Great job! 👍🏻
@SuaveReads
@SuaveReads 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ericbond5276
@ericbond5276 Жыл бұрын
You were discussing problems of storing comics (as a 13 yr. old). Moving up 10 yrs. or so bags and boards as well as storage boxes (I got mine from BCW), become available. For Manga as a 13 yr. old, not so easy. As a 13 yr. old you might ask dad to go to Ikea and get a bookshelf that he will put together for you- great fun there. I remember dragging an O'Sullivan brand home on the bus 30 years ago.
@mikomon309
@mikomon309 2 жыл бұрын
THANKS for this presentation. I've hated the traditional "floppy" comics my whole life and never understood why. Now I understand why. It's because they flop and feel cheap. A BIG advantage of manga is that it feels substantial just like a book. A floppy comic feels like something that's going to get tossed. This was an important presentation.
@spiceseller9928
@spiceseller9928 3 жыл бұрын
honestly its the Confusion around where to start, like I started strange academy liked it a lot and wanted to pick up the related doctor strange book but I couldn't find it anywhere had to go online. Yet if I wanna pick up or read the new issue of my hero I just go to any bookstore, or buy a Shonen jump sub. And the other thing is the length A comic is to short for it to take a month to get my next issue even on the current series I'm reading its always oh yeah that book i read a 2 months ago it was pretty good I wonder if the new issue is out 20 pages later that was good time to wait a month.
@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457
@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457 3 жыл бұрын
I think, he mentioned that at start.
@Bolbi145
@Bolbi145 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t know much about Manga or Anime, but one thing I do know is that they didn’t have to deal with any stinking comics code authority
@frankvizen5480
@frankvizen5480 3 жыл бұрын
Only thing i know about Manga is that the art looks goofy
@N_Tertainment7
@N_Tertainment7 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankvizen5480 Read Berserk and Vagabond, then say if the art looks goofy or not
@dushaunlewis7574
@dushaunlewis7574 Жыл бұрын
@@N_Tertainment7 On average, the manga style is "goofy". Obviously there are outliers, but when comparing the mediums, the manga style isn't as realistic as western counterparts
@Abattoir23
@Abattoir23 3 жыл бұрын
Very nostalgic to see Marvel comics again. I quit about 2017? I never reread my comics. Too much hassle. I've reread most of my manga. You bring up great points. -More expensive. -Harder to manage. -Frail. -Character/Title writer swapping. Another big one IMO is, -Blind Purchasing. Manga has anime to advertise, and is easier to refund. You can't read the first 5 comics, realize you don't like the title and return them. Graphic novels fix many of the issues with comics, but are still way more expensive than manga.
@fungus_am0nguz644
@fungus_am0nguz644 3 жыл бұрын
This was a very good video on topic and i have seen a lot of videos regarding this topic (and when i say a lot im talking about 20+ videos). It felt very personal and with experience. Good job man.
@SuaveReads
@SuaveReads 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@apostrofo-c8x
@apostrofo-c8x 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, totally agreed with your reasons
@abusalehahmedroop2138
@abusalehahmedroop2138 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I'm happy that you mentioned manhwa too
@Ultrontu
@Ultrontu 3 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel also subscribe love the content man keep it up also you make a very good point about manga outselling us comics that’s true 💯
@SuaveReads
@SuaveReads 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Hope you enjoy all the videos I got coming in.
@stanleyheaddii60
@stanleyheaddii60 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, definitely subscribing 👍🏽
@jorokillerx5135
@jorokillerx5135 3 жыл бұрын
Is that redo of healer in the bookshelf 🤨
@SuaveReads
@SuaveReads 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@jorokillerx5135
@jorokillerx5135 3 жыл бұрын
Suave Reads Nani?!
@carlwheezer8538
@carlwheezer8538 2 жыл бұрын
Off topic but did anyone else see the fucking redo of healer painting behind him
@42Caio
@42Caio Жыл бұрын
I'm not from the US, and I had no idea the trade paperback sales weren't taken into account when deciding to continue or not a series (or measuring its success in general, I imagine writer changes and revamps are also decided based on success). I haven't bought a floppie in like 15 years and granted, being on a overseas market that gets comics months after, it doesn't really change anything to me, but it sounds insane the american market expects people to keep up with bi-weekly floppies (which to me are indeed, equivalent to standalone chapters you'd get in a weekly manga magazine or something) instead of assuming a chunk of the reader base (especially adult readers which do make a bigger portion of the market) is going to wait for the better quality TPBs that are less of a pain to store. The market sounds fundamentally broken. If anything comics could return to roots (and take a page of what manga does in Japan) and go back to releasing anthologies. Having less stuff on the shelf but giving the books more pages and include several titles, helping give more visibility to less popular heroes. Like Detective Comics instead of being batman only (and only one of several Batman books) it has what today is all the batfamily books plus flash plus some lesser known street based and maybe even magic based characters to spice things up. Include a ballot for what your favorite series there are (maybe something done through scanning a qr code in a DC phone app?) for the popularity ranking. Release TPBs of the individual books and use those sales + feedback from the ballots (since only a small fraction of people bother to send them) to gauge success. Having most ongoings packaged into these kinds of anthologies with different focus while having miniseries and the like keep being released as they currently are would probably help with the issue the Big 2 have with keeping their titles alive for more than a couple of months.
@revolutionarydragon1123
@revolutionarydragon1123 3 ай бұрын
I like the idea, but I think the comic shops would have a riot if they try to do any radical change as far as how they make comics
@aaronluisdelacruz4212
@aaronluisdelacruz4212 3 жыл бұрын
There's also the way of genre like Shounen that is aimed for younger boys and Shoujo aimed for younger girls. There's Seinen for adolescent boys and Josei is the female counter part allowing the consumer to choose the book of their liking depending on the Genre. An examples are Shounen, Sport like Haikyuu and Shoujo Fantasy like Fushigi Yuugi.
@アキラ-m3u
@アキラ-m3u 2 жыл бұрын
pretty sure seinen is aimed for adults
@mnm25chango2
@mnm25chango2 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don’t love the singles game. I’ve really enjoyed the way Brubaker/Phillips have been releasing the Reckless books. Standalone GN are def my fave.
@user-eh2jk6mf9s
@user-eh2jk6mf9s 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Tom & Jerry comic book that is about 10+ years old and its cover is a mess. It was one of the first things little ol me wanted from the newspaper booth. The inside is still fine and I noticed as I got older, the better I got at keeping them in the drawer and whole. Which is amazing, considering I stopped buying them in 3rd grade. Some of them look almost new, except a few crinkles.
@invisiblefan2387
@invisiblefan2387 2 жыл бұрын
To me the number one advantage manga has is the the story WILL end eventually. Meaning that there can be a satisfying conclusion and character/story development won’t be immediately be undone between runs to keep the story going.
@thomasallen9974
@thomasallen9974 2 жыл бұрын
The only threat to a story getting the destined end is if its cancelled (but if you are a Western reader, you probably wont have that issue), a major controversy surrounded the author (it has killed good series), or worse of all the author dies (Beserk being the most recent example). Nothing worse then knowing a good story never will meet its end. Honestly, that last one is a major concern for One Piece since its sooo close to finishing, and Hunter x Hunter has been very precariously hangin on by a thread until recent.
@misteralien8313
@misteralien8313 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention knowing which book to start. In manga you just start at one point and follow the rest. In comics there are reboots, retellings, tie-ins, the story lines are all over the place and it's pretty daunting to start.
@Ante-Anima
@Ante-Anima 2 жыл бұрын
Let's summarize : - format & stotage - cost - subtility on how political messages are adressed - accessibility (start a manga? Chapter 1. Start ABC comic? While it has a dedicated comic series the story really start at DEF comic issue#@, DEF comic's story start itself at GHI comic issue#&, which story start at... I may exagerate but you got the idea) - variety - authors relation with their public And I may have forgotten some additional problems for comic book industry ! Well... In their shoes I wouldn't know where to start : way too many things to change here.
@squidsona8509
@squidsona8509 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the comic volumes can be too tall. I designed my bookshelf for manga cuase thats what i buy most but sometimes i get a comic so big it doesnt fit in the shelf. Its annoying
@shikigranbell7608
@shikigranbell7608 3 жыл бұрын
Suave Reads nice natsu dragneel statue you got there.
@iwatchstuffs7933
@iwatchstuffs7933 2 жыл бұрын
Can you also Discuss on where did Komiks(Filipono Comics) went wrong or what can they do to at least get an international audience?
@bruhbro9813
@bruhbro9813 2 жыл бұрын
eh theres nothing wrong with them just that they gotta expand more internationally
@infin7897
@infin7897 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who saw redo of healer? In the background
@somethingsomething9008
@somethingsomething9008 2 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see a perspective on this that isn't overly political
@thelastoutcast9266
@thelastoutcast9266 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I generally just read comics in digital form
@tobluetoblack
@tobluetoblack 2 жыл бұрын
Manga, even with the complex stories are more easier to follow. Just pick up volume 1 of the series and off you go. Comic books are an ever changing interweaving web of convoluted bullshit with multiple points of character assassinations like the way they beat up Peter Parker and his legacy like having Gwen cheat on him with Green goblin. On top of that, as you said, Comic books have become *SO* political that *a* *lot* of people are getting sick and tired of it. It doesn't help that many of the editors, writers and artists also can't seem to take criticism and are attacking their own fans which is another *HUGE* turnoff for them. Honestly, we can have a 100 page essay of the decay of the American comic book industry and it still won't cover every problem it has. don't invest in western comics folks, look to the east. It has DBZ, One Piece, Berserk, Full Metal and so much more.
@eternateen4eva323
@eternateen4eva323 2 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't any you tuber who review a comics book trade never bring up the fact that Manga is printed on Cheap paper and is in black and white? All this BS about size & price is due to the fact that reviewers don't do the research. If a kid has a book shelf with books on it, put your trade on a self that will fit a regular book. Harry Potter books are the size of a comic book trade. Comics have color pages, that's the difference in price. Less pages in comics but the print quality is better and it's in color. It cost more for paper and ink when you color it. If you don't care for color then spend less and buy the Manga. Kids don't buy comics because the characters and the way it's being marketed, don't appeal to them and their age groups, not because they are a different size or page count. 30 year old men should not be the market for Super heroes comics.The Japanese know this, the age for the manga that has been popular in the U.S. is made for kids 8 to 14. Yet 30 to 40 yr old men are the main buyers of Super hero comics in the U.S. If The U.S. made strong stories that were appealing to kids 8 to 14 they might start selling better. If you're looking for adult themes you don't buy pokemon, cuz it's a children's title. Yet grown men in the U.S. are buying My Hero & Dragon ball manga. Those are titles for teen boys specific for teen boys, marketed to teen boys in Japan. If you're looking to grow your market you new new customers younger consumers, ones that will last. Not older ones who die out and move on. Superheroes comics companies don't understand that.
@N5O1
@N5O1 2 жыл бұрын
12:21 сейчас бы сравнивать вебкомикс распечатаный на бумаге с полноценным комиксом. в Соло Левелинг одно слово на страницу. Ты серьезно?
@edsonsengo2684
@edsonsengo2684 3 жыл бұрын
I see this got Redo of Healer in the back
@orboakin8074
@orboakin8074 3 жыл бұрын
American comics: Unprofessional, expensive, garbage continuity, disrespectful to customers, pushes identity politics and tokenism, and calls Jordan Peterson a Nazi.😒 Japanese manga: *Respects customers, professionalism, has no woke filth, has digital format, no continuity issues, is meritocratic and is cheaper* ✨👏👏✨
@rigel0207
@rigel0207 3 жыл бұрын
Heck, japanese manga even manage to make a literal nazi character likeable
@DeathandGrim2
@DeathandGrim2 3 жыл бұрын
You're joking right?
@rigel0207
@rigel0207 3 жыл бұрын
@@DeathandGrim2 in case you're replying to me : nope, they really did made a character like that
@DeathandGrim2
@DeathandGrim2 3 жыл бұрын
@@rigel0207 I wasn't.
@majora6767
@majora6767 2 жыл бұрын
@@rigel0207 you mean Stroheim?
@SetGacia
@SetGacia 3 жыл бұрын
Do kids today really care about sizes and prices...? Back when I started buying comics, and now that I buy both comics and manga, story and art have always been the only factors... times do change.
@fungus_am0nguz644
@fungus_am0nguz644 3 жыл бұрын
I think they do care or if they dont they will. I think that floppies arent geared for collecting nowadays, as he was saying is a pain in the ass to buy those plastic covers and boxes. Manga besides the obvious of having better stories and art (although thats personal) its way easier to get into(with anime being tremendously helpful), easier to store....you wanna collect start with vol 1, thats it.
@SetGacia
@SetGacia 3 жыл бұрын
​@@fungus_am0nguz644 As a comic reader, I enjoy the caring for the comics part. I enjoy bagging and boarding them, I enjoy trying to find certain comics in the best condition possible, I enjoy putting them in their boxes, and going through those boxes to find one. So much that I buy boxes for my manga and also bag them. For Manga I really love I also try and find different editions from different countries, just to have them. As for manga being easier to get into at this time because anime, yeah I agree. It reminds me of when I was a child, watching X-Men or Batman tAS, which worked as bridges for that same thing. And being able to read just one story and jumping on issue one is also good, there are way too many comics with the same characters to know what's going on. This is why I tend to recommend indie comics with completely new stories to new comic readers. So yeah I agree with those two points. This made me think that I read comics and manga for very different reasons also, if I want action, I go with comics. I'm not a huge fan of how manga does action (with some exceptions) and if I want weird, suspense, or fantasy, I go with manga, there are not many comics that go this route successfully (with some exceptions). Only with Horror, I buy both, but I buy anything horror anyway so that's a different story. All of this is making me think that we are looking at a false conundrum, people who buy comics and who buy manga are two completely different beings who buy each for very different reasons and they wouldn't jump from one to the other even if their media were to suddenly disappear. It seems that the only thing comics and manga have in common is that they are books with pictures. It's like comparing Kpop with Black Metal... they are both music, but not really for the same people (with some exceptions). And one is just more popular than the other at this time. Thanks for the food for thought!
@Ron_BWL
@Ron_BWL 3 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that this is considering first-time consumers - as in, the very first impression you get when you walk into a bookstore, completely new to the scene. Imagine if it's a kid with only $10 pocket money, his bag's so small that it can't fit in a magazine, and he's presented with modern day comic vs manga, there's a high chance that he'll pick the manga, get interested in it, and therefore save his next $10 allowance on the second volume.
@maxponder3684
@maxponder3684 3 жыл бұрын
What editions of full metal alchemist is that?
@SuaveReads
@SuaveReads 3 жыл бұрын
Those are the called "FMA: Full Metal Edition Hardcover"
@maxponder3684
@maxponder3684 3 жыл бұрын
@@SuaveReads awesome cheers bro!
@Karis214
@Karis214 3 жыл бұрын
comics are so thin
@asdsdf3510
@asdsdf3510 3 жыл бұрын
the only comic that ik of that isnt confusing to get into is the walking dead
@amarikwa888
@amarikwa888 3 жыл бұрын
The company that published that book has tons of comics just as easy to get into. Should I recommend some?
@AwakenBae
@AwakenBae 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is for me manga is much more simple to catch up the continuity nor like marvel or DC comic that's lot of universe they made so confuse to catch up with the story IMO 🙂🙂🙂
@shock226
@shock226 3 жыл бұрын
Are manga still dominant? Or have comics made a comeback?
@dataphoenix8004
@dataphoenix8004 3 жыл бұрын
yes lol
@elmohead
@elmohead 2 жыл бұрын
It's even more dominating lol
@ekszentrik
@ekszentrik 3 жыл бұрын
And one of the root causes why comics are so smol and sticc is because of the idea it needs to have color. This single factor alone causes so many downstream ones. Like comics needing more time and money to create, them providing less material per volume due to needing to price it competitively, this in general creating the sentiment comics are more to look at rather than look through, making it a more adult hobby than one equally for young teens and kids, the volumes relying more on cliffhangers for sale, less intricate and complete story lines, higher costs leading to less risk taking, thus less franchises, thus more reboots, thus more artists factory-like rather than a single unitary artist's vision, etc. Also color allows comic artists to be insanely samey, because characters can be distinguished by colors (the same criticism is sometimes thrown against anime by devils, regarding character hair colors), whereas manga artists are forced to have distinct and beautiful art styles. Also it honestly helps that manga developed out of the cutesy Astro Boy aesthetic rather than from the 1930s pulp/popart one like US comics. The latter long-term looks only good on a cigarette pack.
@seiyakun7564
@seiyakun7564 3 жыл бұрын
la razon es por que los artistas de los comic insultan a sus lectores
@kerob-sx6kx
@kerob-sx6kx 3 жыл бұрын
meteoro pegaso
@hoodieangel4621
@hoodieangel4621 2 жыл бұрын
Korean Manhua's are beasts. American comics should step-up.
@joveminternauta5000
@joveminternauta5000 2 жыл бұрын
Manhuas are chinese. The Korean-comics is called manhwas.
@smal750
@smal750 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 massive L
@mastermo316
@mastermo316 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, my!
@JoiskiMe
@JoiskiMe 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the very realistic, mature art style won't appeal to elementary students, that much should be obvious.
@PetyrC90
@PetyrC90 Жыл бұрын
Bro, for every reason you could have pointed, you pointed the dumbest ones: dimensions and not fitting the shelf (except they do. Wtf are you on?) Single issues weren't made to be put in shelves. My god.
@robertdowneypeenis6139
@robertdowneypeenis6139 Жыл бұрын
I don't buy manga or comics, I buy graphic novels and they sit in the book shelf just as fine
@Justsomerandomguy7
@Justsomerandomguy7 2 жыл бұрын
Wow everyone sure beat this dead horse quite a lot a year or so ago.
@saulgoodman5324
@saulgoodman5324 2 жыл бұрын
comic books worst enemy is demon slayer
@frontallappen4981
@frontallappen4981 2 жыл бұрын
The character design in western comics is absolute garbage.
@joveminternauta5000
@joveminternauta5000 2 жыл бұрын
Yes bro.
@nimbvsalex2635
@nimbvsalex2635 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone wanna see my concept of a indie manga I'm making?
@mr_indie_fan
@mr_indie_fan 2 жыл бұрын
Us comics: wokeness Manga: fucking entertainment. Its not that hard to understand that woke shit aint entertaining.
@KusunokiSG47
@KusunokiSG47 2 жыл бұрын
I think someone I read online said it best "What has the US comics does ? It's all superhero superhero superhero, all is superhero with sprinkles of politikos. Then check out manga, you've got Shonen, Shoujo, Seinen, romance, horror, comedy, basically any genre you want most likely is there."
@alariaaurora8456
@alariaaurora8456 3 жыл бұрын
You brought some actually good & unique points unlike most other dudes who only say “ it’s just because of woke ness”
@lucaponzio8907
@lucaponzio8907 3 жыл бұрын
Comics are too political now? Weren’t they always political?
@whothewu
@whothewu 3 жыл бұрын
They always were political. It’s a phrase meant to pretend to objectivity when the real meaning is “I dislike the politics of this.” That more honest phrasing does then invite the question regarding the specific nature of the disliked politics.
@StratumPress
@StratumPress 3 жыл бұрын
No, not really. And when they were, they didn't preach a singular political viewpoint.
@psyche1646
@psyche1646 3 жыл бұрын
...no
@artcorbeau
@artcorbeau 3 жыл бұрын
@@StratumPress it's funny because when a gay character in comics, people yell "politics!", but when a gay character in manga, people don't say anything. There were at least 2 gay characters in air gear : akito & sano. But nobody whined.
@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457
@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457 3 жыл бұрын
Politics has the forefront of the comic-books at DC and Marvel, rather than telling a story and entertaining the audience (like they are suppoesed to), they are used more as propaganda moral stories.
@DL-idk
@DL-idk 2 жыл бұрын
I've never bought comics and I had no idea they were these thin floppy booklets with not a lot of pages 😂 Even if you managed to somehow store them on the shelf, they won't look very good. Seriously, they should really humble down and learn a trick or two from manga instead of being salty about readers not buying their stuff
@jamessoth1479
@jamessoth1479 2 жыл бұрын
Glad your comparison didn’t go into slandering the comics political change as a reason for them failing. The monetary perspective makes a lot of sense.
@thatanimepfpguy
@thatanimepfpguy 2 жыл бұрын
US comics are poor quality
@jjsamuelgunn1136
@jjsamuelgunn1136 2 жыл бұрын
The entire first half is talking about the difficulty in storing the stuff??? Hey, we are not talking about plutonium OK. And then the talk about manga being a tried and test product in the US?? How old are you? The comics industry is way older than manga. Please don't make videos like this if you don't know the history and growth and decline of the industry. Comics are turning into crap but we are talking about the quality and the content and not this superficial nonsense you are bringing up
@andrempsc
@andrempsc 3 жыл бұрын
Content over form. I dont agree at all. Kids just have a preference for manga. Thats all. The comics size or format never stop me from reading or collecting.
@frankvizen5480
@frankvizen5480 3 жыл бұрын
The art is so awful though. I just don't get it
@DanielAspajo9930
@DanielAspajo9930 2 жыл бұрын
I'm the 666 like
@_iustin_n8960
@_iustin_n8960 2 жыл бұрын
For me comics are special so there is no way that for me manga are ever gonna be close to comics
@アキラ-m3u
@アキラ-m3u 2 жыл бұрын
keep coping
@bobopatchnosuke229
@bobopatchnosuke229 2 жыл бұрын
Comics are better, just many people don't know the really obscure, awesome characters that exist.
@elmohead
@elmohead 2 жыл бұрын
Please tell
@ultimatespider-man5170
@ultimatespider-man5170 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter comics are better, manga sucks
@Batamn777
@Batamn777 2 жыл бұрын
Your in denial bro manga is so much better shit like berserk and monster also vagabond are better than whatever fucking trash comics is putting out nowadays
@アキラ-m3u
@アキラ-m3u 2 жыл бұрын
even a single manga is better than 70% of the comics that you can name
@joveminternauta5000
@joveminternauta5000 2 жыл бұрын
Manga are better than 79% of comics. The design characters in comics is sucks.
@ultimatespider-man5170
@ultimatespider-man5170 2 жыл бұрын
@@joveminternauta5000 It's the opposite, the design of manga characters sucks and especially since manga always sexualizes female characters manga is for men who have orgasm for 24 hours.
@ultimatespider-man5170
@ultimatespider-man5170 2 жыл бұрын
@@アキラ-m3u Yeah in your dreams.
@iLoveLucy420
@iLoveLucy420 2 жыл бұрын
Soon one piece will surpass Superman in units sold and that is insane.supes does have over 60years on one piece
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