Why Max Verstappen is upset with Honda's Aston Martin F1 deal

Honda delayed properly severing its ties to Formula 1 for so long after quitting it’s now officially returning before it ever left.
The recently announced Aston Martin deal for 2026 concludes a saga that has been particularly silly even in the context of Honda’s on-again, off-again F1 history.
So let’s get into the U-turn, the problems it’s caused along the way, and what we think is the real reason for this change of heart.
00:00 Honda never left
00:24 Verstappen's reaction
03:09 The real reasons
06:13 Will Honda be behind?
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[@GARBO96]

The real reason is that the Honda leadership that wanted to leave is no longer leadership. The new rules always included 100% renewed fuels.

[@ThisMarv]

Yeah I'm shocked this wasn't mentioned in the video when this is quite common knowledge

[@harblewarble6427]

@@ThisMarv I'm SHOCKED an *upstanding publication* like The Race would leave major and relevant information out of a story just because it's doesn't comply with current years narrative! Shocked!

[@ericmcmanus5179]

Exactly

[@ThisMarv]

@@harblewarble6427 no clue tbh, I don't watch the race usually, sometimes youtube just keeps recommending me clips and when i'm too bored I click on it, like this one today

[@Nuken1]

Yes, the race decided not to show the most important information. Honda's CEO was changed and the new CEO decided to continue in F1.

[@jealva]

You have to give Lawrence Stroll credit for going all in.

[@markknoop6283]

For his little boy.

[@mvosloo6431]

It wont make his son a better driver

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@markknoop6283 Vettel never gonna like it.

[@NeedLotionNow]

@@markknoop6283 so? Still brings positives to the sport so why does it matter?

[@markknoop6283]

@@NeedLotionNow i think he is demolishing the sport. This means that you only need money to drive and no skills.

[@selder_7]

Had Honda not wobbled, they’d have more foundation for confidence going into 2026 - RBPT-Ford messing up is easily the biggest threat to Verstappen winning every title until his contract ends

[@Love2Cruise]

@@sailyui Merc would love your confidence, now. LOL!

[@Roguescienceguy]

It will still be an RBPT with a ford badge smacked on it. That means that it will still be more like a honda than a ford.

[@metisa0034]

​@@Love2Cruise Damn bro😂

[@zarethd]

​@@sailyui ah so just like the entire rest of max's career lol

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

That can still be said about anything and anyone. No team or manufacturer is guaranteed to get the changes right.

[@nathanb286]

Knowing Honda, as soon as AM can challenge Red Bull they will quit F1

[@GameOver-nm2us]

I mean Aston already technically cam challenge the Redbull in quali so it's not that far off

[@pancon5]

That seems to be the pattern! 😂

[@nevessl998]

Nathan B dumb comment.

[@mavadelo]

@@nevessl998 Why dumb? they did exactly that at least 2 times before.

[@chris7jakarta]

if you paid attention @5:19 Honda might be getting 100M a year instead of paying 100M a year, why would they want to walk away from that?

[@AntiBellum]

I’m not sure what’s surprised me more this season, the AM-Honda deal or that AM actually has a competitive car

[@maxluthor6800]

yea that cheaty ERS going to aston martin sure did upset him

[@user-rw9nl9er9q]

Рьму

[@leishembayengkhom33]

​@@maxluthor6800 😂😂😂 bro from which source did you learn that.

[@woodenhoe]

​@@leishembayengkhom33 probably wikihow

[@e2rqey]

It was basically the only viable option for Honda after Honda's dumb F1 decisions.

[@mrpresidenterey]

I just want a big Honda name plastered on the rear wing of a winning car. It looks so timeless. Love it.

[@15DEAN1995]

honda really squandered a great partnership. they were clearly in the fight to win in 2021 so they couldve said we changed are mind that year because they were competitive. they also had the full support of one of the best drivers in f1 who wanted to succeed with them. instead honda followed through and left, only to return after red bull were in talks with porsche then ford. now redbull and honda have to walk away from an incredibly successful relationship because honda did a honda. i suppose there are 2 consistent failure points in f1, ferraris gonna fail strategy and hondas gonna leave and come back.

[@gpaje]

True, they did this to themselves, but I give them credit to not actually leaving. They have continued to support Red Bull and AT since 2021 and will continue to produce their engines until the end of 2025. They will continue to be there with AM.

[@993mike]

Honda's wishy-washy routine regarding F1 engines and RedBull is irritating. They had a dream partnership with RedBull and now they've flushed it away and decided to return with Aston Martin, which will have Lance (yawn) and almost certainly a retired Alonso. It's as dumb a move as when they sold to Brawn who then won the championship the following year without any glory going to Honda.

[@wiryantirta]

haha you have no idea the kind bullshittery japanese beuracracy does

[@samwlloyd]

@@gpaje That deal was bought and paid for and the original agreement until end of 2025, it has nothing to do with them leaving and coming back because they had a contractual obligation and didn't do RB any favors. Honda is like a woman on mesopause and cant decide WTF they want to do with F1 as they can get a new CEO in 18 months and will be out again. RB had no choice but to build there own PU because Ferrari and Merc will not sell them engines and god forbid they go back to Renault. Frankly if I was RB I would seriously be pissed off.

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@993mike Honda always got wishi washi routes since 2006, 993mike.

[@kaceydillin7367]

You dont even mention that the CEO that made the decision to withdraw from F1 passed away. Hence the need to have new leadership. New leadership decided to go in a new direction. But you present it as if Honda can’make up its mind. Please be better, love your content. PS as a Honda fan boy, is Honda really stressed about $200. Million dollar difference? To you and me thats alot, but to a auto company thats a drop in the bucket. “Without racing, there is no Honda” Soichiro Honda

[@DeathBlocks]

Just like how they also play into the idea of Honda leaving and coming back often.

[@SashaGrace94]

Looking forward to them deciding to quit again in 2030 to do a full on comeback with another team in 2035. Because Honda 😂

[@BOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOB69]

This

[@heethsurana7065]

Watch them leave Aston one year before it wins the WCC lmao

[@everydaydose7779]

It's actually understandable that Honda wanted to quit F1 They are literally on every top Motorsport Racing lol From 2 wheels 4 wheels "Formula One, MotoGP, Super GT, Super Formula, IndyCar, IMSA, BTCC, TC2000, Formula 3, Formula 4, off-road, WSBK, EWC, MXGP, TrialGP and various different GT3 and TCR series"

[@NoToBigBro]

Honda committed to F1 = Recession right around the corner Honda quitting F1 = Economic boom right around the corner Honda = Contrarian indicator

[@Alcatraz760]

At least Aston will win a WDC then, as is Honda tradition.

[@Hooper-]

Horner is correct, they should be thanking Honda.

[@2Fast4Mellow]

They did and still do. They haven't said a bad word about Honda except about the flaky behavior about the leaving-not leaving-returning saga... Compare that to the Renault era. But AM get a great manufacturer, but the question remains. When are they gonna announce that they are leaving F1 for good? Place your bets now!

[@fentmaxxer_]

“Honda’s adopted son” got me 😅

[@davez5u52]

It got me as well, they went savage for saying that😆

[@FantasKanal]

Didnt Honda also have a change in leadership in that time? I would assume this had a huge impact on decisionmaking within the company.

[@renancristyan0099]

I don't think this is bad for Red Bull. I mean, they're actually going to have their own engine so they don't rely on anyone but themselves.

[@Hydraav2]

Yeah but it is always easier for a manufacturer that already made engines to continue making engines. Honda, Mercedes, Renault etc have been doing it for years. And i’m yet to believe that this Ford partnership is anything more than a marketing exercise, but for RBR’s sake I hope Ford contributes something more than money.

[@Hydraav2]

Honda was a works deal so they basically had the exclusivity of making their own engine without actually making it. I don’t know if this was really a step in the right direction or a sideways move.

[@waynetowers5046]

They're losing Honda's technical know-how though, sure Red Bull will have a lot of knowledge but Ford, despite a rich F1 history, are relatively newcomers, technically.

[@ihavewaited90daystochangem51]

@@waynetowers5046 Most of redbulls own engine division is rehired honda staff

[@CarimboHanky]

its bad because they are going from a experienced and proven manufacturer(honda) into uncharted territory(rb power unit) its gonna be interesting for sure

[@vaughnsigal4560]

I support anything that has the potential to disrupt the order in F1. Will be interesting to see how Aston progresses.

[@NikiN1]

Red Bull Ford Powertrains back to Zero (reset)

[@baskkev7459]

@the race the title is wrong. Max is not upset. He is not unhappy, disappointed, or worried. He said its a bit of a shame. That is sadness, let down. Different emotion. The upset title means more that there is anger in his opinion. While ven in your own video its not shown he is angry towards honda.

[@eliotmansfield]

it’s clickbait - never fails to work

[@Vulcanier65]

@@eliotmansfield You are spot on.

[@user-rf7kc4ev6t]

@@eliotmansfield Yep, because every last F1 fan gives a crap what Max thinks....LoLz

[@vandalsgarage]

Because the British motoring press and cult LH needs to moan about everything Max says (or doesn't say).

[@SuperMarkizas]

RB got fucked out of the blue, I can only imagine the swearing that went on in Horner's office

[@nchmusic99]

Won't be surprise if Verstappen leave Red Bull for AM to replace either Alonso or Stroll to reunite with Honda

[@spicyF1]

Had Honda not decided to quit in 2020, RED BULL would not have won in 2021 as they brought forward the engine that was planned by 1 year

[@radspeed113]

Still a chance they could have won but yeah that's a fair point, really would have changed the trajectory of the sport

[@stefanstenroos6344]

History has shown that it's always better to be at the tail end of a Honda F1 stint.

[@tobbsnobb1366]

or salvage their cars and plans the year after they left haha. Just shoehorn a Mercedes PU in it instead and youre set for a Brawn

[@Morcap]

There might be a further twist in this story; Max joining AM by 2026 while Nando is on his way in retirement...and thus Max following Honda's engine prowess. Just a thought.

[@joe_3105]

Max has a contract with Red Bull till 2028. I don't think with the current conditions, Max will think of jumping to another team just for the power unit he knew very well how to utilize it to the max

[@Morcap]

@@joe_3105 It will work perfectly for Max; he has 2016 to asses both teams; see how the new AM+Honda perform in compare to RB+Ford. And than he can choose between the two; contracts again, they can be revoked, changed, etc..

[@paulflood2709]

The RB Max won his first Driver’s title with, HONDA on the rear wing is an iconic car

[@GarageGuerilla]

It's Red Bull's decision not to partner with an engine supplier who leaves the sport on a regular basis.

[@loldoctor]

And AM didn't learn from their mistake

[@gpaje]

They still tried, they flew Marko to Japan in last year to try to keep Honda onboard with the EV/Battery side of the future PU. But Honda still wanted to make the ICE unit as well.

[@gpaje]

@@loldoctor What mistake, Honda is still supporting Red Bull and they are likely to win 3 more championships together before they actually break up. Honda is also a Works supplier for AM. You think that AM is better off paying a customer engine millions or getting millions in support from Honda?

[@DeathBlocks]

Why do people keep saying this about Honda? Since I have watched F1 they were with McLaren for a long time, then had their own team which only stopped because of the financial crisis and then stuck with McLaren again even though the project wasn't working. The way it's spoken about makes it sound like they keep coming back for like 5 years at most over and over, not 3 times in over 30 years.

[@8BitZ0mbie]

Hondas leadership should be questioned after this whole drama. The basically forced red bull to sign with someone else. Why would you want to lose that team? I feel like this whole sustainable fuel thing is just marketing mumbo jumbo anyways.

[@richy69ify]

They didn't sign for someone else, they built a factory and hired a bunch of people, the RBPT unit was well underway before the Ford branding deal

[@FoodFighter46]

They would have continued if RB would pay for the expenses. Stake holders would not nod if Honda had to pay millions for F1.

[@TheActualJae]

Aston Martin.... is making some serious moves these days. I wonder if they'll be the next dynasty at this point.

[@arfa9601]

Imagine if it was possible to replace Lance with Lando.

[@Isanion]

@@arfa9601 Or Yuki. omg I'd just die for Nando + Yuki in a RB-beating car. The drama would be Huuuuuge!

[@vandalsgarage]

AM the next dynasty? Not as long as Lawrence Stroll treats the team as if it were a privateer entry for his son. In order to win multiple constructor titles, you need two top level drivers.

[@mvosloo6431]

Lance will always be their weakness

[@warren010h]

​@@vandalsgarage If AM has more pace, maybe Lance can reduce some of the damage. But if it continues like now, he's going to be leaving valuable constructors points on the table. Alonso is carrying the team now. They should be further ahead of Merc, but unfortunately, I see them losing out on 2nd place in the constructors this year for that reason.

[@SMACK1978]

Think Aston is REALLY rolling the dice getting in bed with Honda

[@whassupg89]

I can see why red bull would be annoyed but at least they are not at the mercy of the next time Honda decides to quit again 😂

[@nagasako7]

Honda buying out Stroll would actually be full circle. Mugen Jordan Honda was original Team.

[@santoshsookgrim2786]

The last point in the timeline at 1:03 and 4:15 is incorrect and seems to be duplicated. Was the last point not supposed to say "AstonMartin and Honda announce 2026 deal" instead of "Red Bull and Ford Announce 2026 deal"

[@Jozo7O]

People forget the change of CEO within Honda which I feel was a huge part of why plans changed, The Race itself used to mention it, I feel Leaving F1 in terms of cost-saving and direction changing for Honda was a last ditch effort for keeping CEO, when it wasn't favored and a change of CEO was in place, the Idea of being in F1 was seen favorably within Honda especially as Red Bull challenged for what was one of the best seasons of recent memory. As Success continued Honda fully decided to back F1 involvement as not only they proved successful in the modern era, but the fact that the Japanese are very proud of Heritage, and Honda have a great history with F1 and have an extra motivation to not only participate in F1 but make it work, you can see that even compared to Renault/Alpine, Honda have always been passionate about their involvement in F1, to them its all or nothing now, and that's what the new regulations are built for, long term involvement.

[@bp8__163]

Your timeline at 1:00 for May 2023 says Redbull announces ford deal when i think you meant to say aston honda deal annouced.

[@tiegedolly]

I haven’t seen Honda under this much controversy since Hector decided to run 3 Honda Civics with spoon engines, on top of going to Harry’s and ordering 3 T-66 turbos with Nos and a Motec system exhaust!

[@MattO109]

Ford watching Red bull cry about Honda is like talking about an ex before the first date.

[@BPBomber]

I know this is how it goes but, goodness, imagine a universe in the near future where Red Bull, with their new engines, are third or fourth in the standing and Aston Martin and Honda and the Strolls and Fernando are leading the championship 🤯

[@frankshaffer7645]

One can wish!

[@robh_uk]

Had to double check I didn't have this on 3x playback speed. Normally love your content but was SMM in a huge rush when you made this?! Had to give up halfway through.

[@ytadi9229]

There are more things in timeline you missed. Especially changes in Honda leadership between on/off.

[@peterfconley]

Honda doing Honda things.

[@wngimageanddesign9546]

The problem is and always has been Honda corporate. The executive board is now lead by MBAs and Accountants, no longer by an founder-engineer who was rooted in racing. Since his death, Honda has eroded continuously in their products and motorsport exploits. Honda Racing (HRC) was an exclusive entity within Honda. Their "Skunk Works". Very competitive and innovative. They are only hampered by budget dictated by the executives. We are seeing the same form of meddling in motorsports by Ferrari and Alpine's CEO. Honda's F1 championship success proved the existing executive officer wrong, and saw his ouster with a combination of exiting F1, and their collapsing global car sales. Dropped 60+% during the last 2 years with bad decisions of dismissing the BEV market and backing hydrogen fuel cells. The partnership to rebadge GM's future BEVs as Hondas in the USA will come back to haunt them. Their only good move was to partner with Sony to produce the chassis for the upcoming Sony BEVs. And the 180 to continue in F1 was another good decision. And yes, Max is right about the wasteful silliness and turn of events as an engine supplier. They could have stayed with Red Bull and prospered, but now painted themselves into a corner. It serves as an example of how poor CEO leadership can cost a company. And how exemplary CEO leadership, like Soichiro Honda, and Elon Musk, can make a company an industry leader and dominate their markets.

[@SuperLanyard]

Elon Musk isn't good enough to polish Soichiro's shoes.

[@memolano100]

That’s why this was a good thing for Red Bull. It forced them to depend only on themselves and not on any decisions coming from executives that keep changing. Also, they aren’t starting from scratch since they are building on the foundation that Honda left.

[@uchikoshi-TL]

Sorry, but comparing Honda to Musk is an insult to the former. Besides, Honda himself didn't really have any business talent; it was his partnership with Takeo Fujisawa that made Honda the manufacturer that it is today.

[@GRAINpink]

I mean Honda asked RedBull first, and they said 'no' so Its not Honda's fault that they tied with Aston Martin

[@yammt3148]

"Why are y'all so flippidy floppity?" - Toyota Gazoo

[@melwind1230]

Question is, did RB ask Max if he'd like to wait for Honda's decision before taking on Ford as its partner? Or RB was likely taking the matter as business since Honda is paying them? And now, what's the deal w/ Ford. Are Ford paying RB for a sticker on their car? That's the questions that are needed to be answered.

[@Goron333]

Ford is a badging exercise (of the RBPT PU) but they are apparently interested in providing support on the electrical side of things. By the time Honda expressed interest in coming back for 2026 it was too late, because RBPT was already 18 months down the line.

[@halofreak1990]

@@Goron333 Indeed. Ford was contracted to help with the hybrid side of things, while RBPT would produce the ICE. And that's also the only position Red Bull had left for a prospective deal with Honda, given that they'd already committed hundreds of millions toward their new engine facilities, and weren't going to drop all of that just to have Honda back. As a side note, it'll be interesting to see if Red Bull will also use RBPT to build the engine for their upcoming RB17 hyper car

[@ab8jeh]

All these comments. At the end of the day, Honda have been amazing. They could have easily quit back in the McLaren days, but they didn't. They completely recovered their desprate situation and made the best F1 engine. They deserve now to do what they want, all credit to them.

[@druklk42]

I want to see a video about what you guys think of the redbull floor.

[@grandnoobian2685]

Think there’s a wee error in the timeline graphic

[@willwill5595]

Honda wants/needs to prove they can win with any team. That, they don't need redbull!

[@ktcool4660]

Honda has proven that many times.

[@kzyz3154]

This deal makes perfect sense when you look at the numbers. With red bull, honda loses 100m but their partnership resulted in the best car in F1 With Aston Martin, Honda gains 100m and still in F1 as currently a top 3 team. If red bull were willing to shell out, Honda would've hummed a different Tune but instead Daddy Stroll walked into the Honda Board Meeting with wads of cash.

[@brentnearhood8874]

Why would Max care, he said he wasn't going to race F1 much longer.

[@thanos5171]

And Honda said they were going to leave F1, yet here we are

[@gaycha6589]

…..MV isn’t going to quit just yet. But he may be up for a few tough seasons ahead in the midfield. But that’s also great as he can show his skills there, and folk will stop saying that it’s the RBR car not the driver. Win win. But no goat path and might still be some way off the Senna, Schumacher and Hamilton WDC titles counts.

[@armadillolover99]

His contract expires in 2028 and he also said he plans to stay in F1 at least until then, so this still does impact him even if he retires young.

[@tobbsnobb1366]

has a contract till 2028 so "much longer" is an understatement still makes sense to be annoyed when the whole issue of Red bull powertrains, partner signings, engine freezes and such if Honda wouldve just continued for another year to see the results. Meaning they probably wouldve continued on with their sucessfull partnership

[@jacob2808]

​@@gaycha6589max will surpass sennas count, also titles don't determine goatness

[@DiscGolfLeagueMVP]

I wonder if there was anything massive that happened in 2020 that might have caused them to think about pulling the plug on an expensive project

[@frankbieser]

Honda's crystal ball was off. When they decided to leave F1, it was because they were going to focus on pure EVs moving forward, and the new engine regs were not finalized yet. The world changed since then, and car manufacturers are beginning to realize the future of cars is hybrids, not EVs (for a variety of reasons that have only become clear to many in the last 2 years from insufficient power infrastructure, to raw material supply chain worries, and poor sales in larger EVs). With F1 focused on hybrid tech, it makes a good test bed for those looking to develop hybrid engine tech.

[@BlackRose-vi2yg]

This is the type of video where someone doesn't really now anything so makes most of it up. Cmon dude 🤘🤘

[@asdc-central2112]

Honda is just probably tired of having to deal with Helmut and Horner!

[@zinj2618]

that makes zero sense!

[@sjsomething4936]

This is a good point too, watching Horner on Drive to Survive shows what a prick he can be *when he knows a camera is on him* - imagine what he’s like when no cameras are around.

[@quigglyz]

@@sjsomething4936 are you STILL crying about Abu Dhabi? 😂 Holy fuck that's so pathetic

[@ndh06]

I wonder how much it has to do with the credit they got from the wins. Most online discourse about Red Bulls' performance gets attached to Max's brilliant driving and Adrian Neweys car with the engines being seen as good enough or not the GP2 engine anymore.

[@natelecarde962]

They wanna see Fernando become the oldest f1 champion. Imagine him winning it in 2026, 20 years after his last one. Edit: Nvm he’d have to win it in 2027 to be the oldest ever

[@NikiN1]

There's no Alonso in 2026

[@loldoctor]

Cut to 2025: Alonso announcing he'll be leaving AM.

[@willywonka4340]

Gp2, Gp2

[@Ariespradana13]

​@@willywonka4340 GP1

[@zombiekilla25979]

BREAKING NEWS: Fernando Alonso announces that he will be joining the Williams team for 2026

[@simmal8861]

Haha finally Alonso gets his GP2 engine back 😂

[@RobertKoeck-tn8uf]

The engine that one 40 races and 3 championships (and counting) since? Hilarious 😂😂

[@Adwnpinoy310]

I wonder how much this move, leading to the creation of their own powertrains division, contributed to the decision to keep Alpha Tauri.

[@Isanion]

Honda: we're leaving. Lawrence Stroll: *opens chequebook* sure about that?

[@TheAsyraf007]

I love what aston martin are doing right now.

[@Ihaveanamenowtaken]

I too am angry at Honda. smh. What a disappointment.

[@corbenbarnett9992]

the graphic @ 1:02 is incorrect. someone copy/pasted instead of writing it out properly...

[@ricoriofrer3706]

1:00 May 2023 area has typo error! Obviously a "copy-paste mistake"

[@richardweston4175]

Would there be any IP issues for Honda? Did they sell the IP of the power unit in the back of the red bull? Will that mean they have to develop a new engine from scratch?

[@richy69ify]

Red Bull have never opened the Honda power unit, they are sent back to Japan sealed.

[@deedas]

Why is Honda aligning themselves with a team that can only ever be at most 50% successful?

[@M0nTyKe]

I'm surprised that teams still trust Honda with their traditional "come and go" rituals

[@gspintel.]

1:01 Glad to know RB announced the Ford deal twice lmao. Seriously tho, personally I'm actually looking forward to Honda-Aston from 2026. Hopefully it'll mean Red Bull dominance doesn't last as long as Mercedes' did.

[@vandalsgarage]

The FIA will never allow RBR to have an eight-year run of dominance. This time last year, people still thought Ferrari had as much a chance at the title as Red Bull. RBR is literally on a one year period of dominance, and already people are demanding that something be done. And some of those people are the ones bragging on Mercedes for their championship years. smh.

[@brendanmccallion2350]

AM reminds me of Mercedes in 2013. Really good car but vs the Red Bull it was nothing in race pace. Then a change in regulations turned that all around. Who knows.

[@Losthillz]

I never really understood corporate Honda. They made the same mistake with 2008

[@KillZoneHart1]

Carbon neutrality is killing motorsport

[@SuperMarkizas]

plus it's total bs, because China, India and other developing countries will continue shitting things up

[@Sadik15B]

Its about money, stroll is paying good money to develope.

[@ToWhom]

Can anyone tell me if Audi is bound by the cost cap yet? Or Can they spend as much as they like up until they actually enter a race?

[@WjC00LEY]

It was quite obvious at the time they would regret the decision to leave.

[@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168]

Can you do a video on Russell's radio & if it had any chance of working? I wanna see how it could've played out

[@reynaldiwidjaja277]

Russell radio ? Anything interesting ?

[@soundscape26]

Having Lewis as a buffer for Charles because of his penalty? It wasn't needed.

[@rirililyriri5765]

​@@reynaldiwidjaja277 that one Weasel moment where he kept asking the team to switch positions when he got the 5 sec penalty to protect himself

[@jeettrivedii]

This absolutely does not need to become this big. It was a pure silly driver moment. Just move on and forget about it

[@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168]

​@@soundscape26 he said it again after he built a gap to Charles, to try & overtake Ocon. I wanna see if it's possible

[@AndyHack10]

RBPT was the right decision after all, who knows when Honda decides to leave again?

[@acidroshan1]

Also Honda was doing quite poorly in the consumer segment exacerbated by the semi conductor shortage.. seems like a knee jerk reaction and good on red bull, it’s hectic working with such a mercurial partner

[@stevendickinson7249]

Lot of "blame" aimed towards Honda. But the Aston deal sounds like a much better financially? Why doesn't anyone blame RB? Maybe RBs "Terms" are too unattractive. RB also ditched Porsche. Now RB will have a Ford sticker as a replacement. Is that really better??

[@williamgersteling7487]

1:00 I see a typo? Editor copy pasted and forgot to change red bull to AM and Ford to Honda😂

[@danielgreensides8463]

I dont understand why the race thinks its silly or confusing that Honda wanted to quit in 2020. There was a worldwide pandemic and they hadn't really come close to a championship challenge yet. The future was extremely bleak at the time and had no clear signs of getting better. What does "the race" know about running a multi billion dollar car company during an unprecedented worlwide disaster?

[@crxdelsolsir]

Max wants to keep winning and Honda is the ticket However, Redbull has engine construction aspiration and Ford is their ticket Conclusion: Differing self interests Redbull could have shelved their plans to be an engine manufacturer, still get returns from their factory by striking an agreement with Honda utilising them and of course some compensation occurring but RedBull did not want to change their plans.

[@harutoyamamoto8811]

Red Bull wasn't willing to pay for Honda's PU, so it was unavoidable that board of directors consider leaving the sport.

[@Calum643]

Where would The Race KZbin channel be without Mercedes sidepods and Honda/RBPT stories

[@frankerzooi]

You were in a hurry didn’t you Scott Mitchell-Malm? 😅 Please slow down a bit and let us absorb the great content you guys share with us.

[@garygup]

This video implies that Honda are the only engine manufacturer in F1. Oh wait, they're the only one Red Bull hasn't burned it bridges with! Plus there's no guarantee that Honda's 2026 power unit will be competitive.

[@dzashengonie3732]

It's not like Renault is gonna come back anytime soon

[@jacob2808]

They burnt bridges with Renault because they were shit, ferrari and merc never had a bridge in the first place

[@halofreak1990]

Who wouldn't? The Renault V6 was atrocious. If Ferrari and Mercedes hadn't been allowed to deny Red Bull the supply of engines, they (Red Bull) would've jumped ship long before their relationship turned truly sour.

[@MisterMonsieur]

And why exactly didn't AM partner with Mercedes like they do for their road cars? Anyhow, AM is getting leftovers. Let'em have it, Max! 🤣

[@Osprey6m]

This is such an immature analysis of how business decisions are made. Honda was fed up with RB and withdrew. AM came along with a sound proposition that made business sense. The world doesn’t revolve around F1.

[@87TIG]

Better for red bull in the long run and probably everyone else in the short term considering the potential for durability issues even with a proven engine supplier, honda shot themselves in the foot there but hopefully an Aston Martin/Honda pairing will benefit both.

[@TheGomezIndustries]

Honda is merely a supplier of bolts in RB's Honda. Everybody knows it's Merc engine disguised as a Honda.

[@jerehada]

As RB would have welcomed them back I wonder if this reflects they are difficult to work with. I think the power unit is viewed as subsidiary the chassis rather than the engineering marvels they are.

[@TBasianeyes]

I want to know if this deal includes a not yet announced Honda engine in an Aston Martin production car.

[@JustinW2980]

There is so much hype building around 2026 and we aren’t even halfway through 2023 yet.

[@christianorsa]

Honda and their flip flopping in and out of the sport is...interesting for sure

[@kanan1361]

Ehm… Honda actually wanted to work with Red Bull again, but it was Red Bull that cut Honda off first and signed the contract with Ford. I don't know why the Red Bull drivers are complaining about it. 🤔 As mentioned at 6:01 .

[@slymitch6758]

Them complaining about it only means one thing. They m, along with others at Redbull, dont believe in Ford.

[@tobbsnobb1366]

because it was avoidable. Had Honda not been in and out, Redbull wouldnt have gone on a hiring spree and set up an entire engine department on their own if they intended to stick around anyways

[@purwantiallan5089]

Seems like 2026 F1 Season gonna be very spicy. Aston Martin Honda vs RBR Honda possibly gonna recreate Williams vs Honda 1993 again.

[@matthewwillis5650]

It was always planned and Verstappen’s annoyance is performative. Honda’s fake withdrawal and the ‘necessity’ for Red Bull powertrains allowed RBR to drive a coach and horses through the cost cap

[@fredericktennant9151]

Aston Martin has always wanted to win when they started they was all over the Merc who was winning, now its Redbull & Honda they want some of that action

[@The_Curious_Cat]

Honda is indeed guilty of saying they were leaving and then end up returning. But RB also didn't accept them back did they? All the facilities they are building and money invested would not be wasted, since it could be used by Honda and everything be made in England to reduce cost (instead of being manufactured in Japan and sent to RB). RB in between all this talked with Porsche and then announced the Ford deal, they talk like the Ford deal was already decided before Honda decided to continue. Which it wasn't and since they announced they were coming back, I'm sure they talked with each other to know if they could continue together. I think what made the partnership not continue was the amount of money Honda was investing in RB, which I'm sure they wanted out because it was unsustainable. RB probably used that against them when they wanted to continue the partnership, something like "oh you said you were going to leave look at all the things we did because of it, you must invest this amount of millions for us to renew the partnership". Of course Honda was not going to accept it. Because if Honda came back, why would they want to work with another team if they are literally dominating F1 right now with RB? There's more to this and since RB is famous for playing the victim, they probably wanted too much and Honda said "no, bye".

[@noilois4181]

Simple, he wants to win

[@MotebangMokoena]

So the fine ladies' and gentlemen at "The Race" forgot to mention that Honda had to go through an overhaul of its leadership before deciding to stay on? Fine journalism right there.

[@MrBashem]

Looking forward to the redbull car brand in the future.

[@poborsky1911]

i have seen cat being more decisive in front of a door

[@TedixH]

1. Leadership of Honda has changed. 2. Financially - Honda had huge expences with collaborating with Red Bull 'cause the deal sucked

[@the5gen]

No offense to Ford but they are a wild card at this point, RBPT might be in for a major struggle in 2026+