Why Men Cuff “Plain” Females

[@michael43567]

A discrepancy I see is many women seem to say a man settles simply because his wife isn't highly attractive. Little do they know the intangibles those "non baddie" women bring are what mature men look for long term.

[@ItsAnEndlessWorld]

Correct!!!

[@TheBookOfRonin75]

Big Facts!

[@dawncosmic90]

Hi Mike can you please describe to me what are the “intangibles” you are talking about, as if you were advising your daughter? I’m a 22 year old girl and after self reflection I discovered that I lack substance and character and therefore I lead with outer beauty cause there’s nothing else. I’m doing all I can to change this cause I don’t want to be that type of woman

[@michael43567]

@@dawncosmic90 firstly, that's very introspective of you to realize that, admit it, and want to change. Especially for a 22 year old. So here's my list (in order of importance): 1 Calmness. We don't want a ratchet woman. Behave like a respectable woman. You can be fun, but don't be reckless & embarrass us. And definitely don't be physically or verbally aggressive. 2 Loyalty. We want a woman who we believe will always have our back. Money or not, happy or sad. Links to the first characteristic because a calm woman is likely to be more rational & not initiate a divorce (disloyalty) simply because she "FEELS" unhappy. Nowadays marriage is a concern for us because women initiate divorce at nearly 80%. Divorce is disloyalty in my eyes. Unless it's completely mutual. 3 Coachable. (Real) men are leaders. We want what's best for both of us & our family. So if we give a critique, know it's coming from a good place. Don't lash out. Make an effort to improve. 4 Understanding. A woman that somewhat understands the struggles & pressure of being a man. We don't even need gifts, just acknowledgement & understanding. Don't just use us like a checkbook. 5 Not Triggering The Male Ego. Similar to #4, understanding the triggers of men & don't trigger them. Certain things we don't like but won't necessarily say to you. E.g hugging guys, having male friends, partying regularly. Or insulting a deficiency we may have e.g beard, height, hairline, teeth, dick size. Male ego is fragile & the main reason for all these gang wars. There's more like intelligence & sense of humor, but these 5 came to mind.

[@shenquejames7598]

Hey Michael, I love the answer you gave. It's men like you that gives the next generation hope. Despite what men think, women love to hear more of what men want than not want. I think the not want conversation is counter-productive if you never say specifically what you do want. Then elaborate on it so the ladies can be clear. When there are so many men saying different things the chatter can be confusing. So, thanks for being clear.

[@jochebed3675]

2:33:15 as a married woman, I would never go to friend for advice in marriage, unless its an older woman who's been successfully married for at least 25 years, or who shares the same value/moral system as my husband and I. Most women are feminist with an us vs them mentality, hence why they need a sisterhood...

[@taujhrutledge3982]

Facts sis

[@benten1453]

This is a great mindset...

[@alwaysaccurate8725]

Facts im single and never go to my friends. If my goal is marriage- then im speaking to my married friends or family. Baddies dont bring nothing to the table but asscheeks. Once a man learn that lesson he choices different.

[@aswilled1]

And men know this, and we act accordingly. most of us would like to be with our women. most are a cancer to us. kkk 2.0. I so glad to work remote so i don't have to live amongst americans.

[@DanielleLaShawn]

SB's setup is always on point. Her lighting looks so good!

[@ameliahorn1]

BTaylor be doing way too much. Saira asked OT a question, and she jumped in and took over. We never got his answer. It seems everytime Saira says something, she makes faces or jump in ,or cut her off. Women like that bother me. It's giving jealousy. Ughh!! Girl shut up!

[@KnoNow9]

She is EXTREMELY insecure. It's disgusting because her unnecessary attitude towards Saira is hostile. Her voice is very annoying also.

[@Steph26Tej]

She seems like a bully

[@brendacook5103]

I agree with you concerning BTaylor. She is way too domineering, combative and egotistical. Also, there’s way too many women on this panel. The host should have only an all male panel OR reduce the number of women on the panel to two.

[@godsgirl7201]

I love hearing what the men think get there perspective it's rare to get men's perspective

[@villain2374]

the fact that you interested is great first step to winning in your personal life. peace and blessing to you.

[@godsgirl7201]

@@villain2374 thank you

[@shaniceramos4128]

You should only be interested in what one man has to say. Don’t go ruin a good thing trying to do for your man what you heard another say online. This group talk for relationships is cute, always nice to converse, but not applicable in real life.

[@taujhrutledge3982]

@@godsgirl7201 thank you sis

[@villain2374]

Shanice gave you terrible advice; the more you learn how most men think and how many many men think and operate; the better decisions you can make to choose good men and avoid bad men. A father, a brother and or someone who is a trusted friend can help vet a man. Even if you are not looking, you can actually also teach other young women how to choose a good man.

[@shae5366]

I love how honest Trill’s answers are. I never get a pandering vibe from him. He seems to see things in a way where he has an understanding of the bigger picture. I have a lot of brothers and uncles in my family and his responses often remind me of conversations I have with them. I think many men marry who is around at the time they feel that they are ready to make that commitment. It doesn’t have to be a negative or a positive, but it is reality for many people. In terms of attraction, I think a man’s ego can be his greatest advantage or his worst enemy. The same things that appealed to him during the chase, are often times seen as a deterrent when he has to face the possibility of other men desiring his woman/wife.

[@renzrose9050]

Plain girls are not a settle; they are an upgrade.

[@healthgurl_taca]

The seductive friend/baddie out of the girl group will always get more attention, but not commitment. So the plain girl sometimes is not approached because the guy know she has a higher standard and might be harder to approach.

[@Renzo112345678]

or thinks she is boring.

[@theedcguy0735]

A baddie is a natural woman who is fine as hell. Natural beauty. Not the clown stuff on.

[@emayan06]

Baddies wear make up all the time. A baddie can look good with or with out make up. Being natural is not being a baddie

[@j_anime305]

The issue with the Plain vs Baddie topic was that certain ppl were acting like Baddie meant a girl that was making dudes break their necks as she passed them while Plain wouldn't even get a second thought, let alone a second look and thats wrong. A Baddie and a Plain Jane are both very attractive, its just the Baddie is more accessories while the Plain is mostly natural

[@ItsAnEndlessWorld]

Man the plain/baddie conversation shouldn't have been that complicated for some on the panel to grasp 😂 we know if you removed makeup and enhancements most of these women who talk boldly wouldn't! Give me a plain woman and plain doesn't mean not beautiful it just means she doesn't need to put on a costume to be beautiful she's already that plain as she is.

[@taujhrutledge3982]

Big facts

[@KnoNow9]

Exactly

[@LaRondaStuckman]

Nicely put ❤️

[@aneshrathomas]

This one💯

[@jayclearmen411]

indeed it’s why i’d just rather get a fresh faced healthy handsome women doesn’t need to be slim thick or curvy,stacked. just fit,slim good skin pretty face.. all that other stuff like fatass big bitties are great don’t get me wrong but Not neccessary. I’d much rather have a chick be a good person that like me fr.

[@ssmoothe2000]

Securityboss looking like she tired of them women.

[@BeautifullyModest]

Because she's wise beyond the womens age, she has more life experience and from another generation, this generation has a lot backwards.

[@Itsadivinething]

Everytime Kayla and Btaylor talk i see why they are single…

[@India-ks6pu]

Yess!! Smh

[@tasjaneellis2725]

I agree. They don’t listen and they are combative

[@tasjaneellis2725]

Can’t forget immature

[@offlier]

Do you mean unmarried? I hope so.

[@jayclearmen411]

I find em irritating and needlessly combative. There just completely ignorant and full of themselves..I mean just wow.

[@chanelnicole5979]

Everytime Kayla rolls her eyes or speak I can see why no one has cuffed her

[@godsgirl7201]

This platform is so much needed& appreciated great advice & point of views

[@sonjadf47]

Babies need a lot of attention. Grown people should be able to validate themselves without outside forces.

[@missrockable]

B Taylor likes to be right by any means and it’s annoying. The way she is always snappy with siara shows how she clearly doesn’t like her for whatever reason. And Kayla and queen shiba be hyping it at times. They truly have some more growing to do.

[@Mr.Jaquaveon2k]

Ikr 🤦🏾‍♂️😭

[@MelissaLona]

She snapped at Saira because Saira was saying you think he chasing you because he want you but he keep reaching out because you keep answering because you like the attention. And B Taylor got mad about that because that’s pretty much what Saira said lol

[@chanelnicole5979]

YEP!!!

[@imanispratling8836]

Agreeed. She’s mad annoying

[@ecclairmayo4153]

​@@MelissaLona - she tool it personally

[@andrajohnson8007]

Oh my goodness I am in tears to hear Mr. R.Williams & Trill & Boss speak . I am a unapologetic Woman who made the wrong choices for the right reasons… I raised my children alone & they turned out great thanks to GOD but” I “ choose them over my needs & abstinence has been my protector & Now that the kids are grown & have grands . I am lonely & feel like I am washed up but yet I never lived 😞

[@melbaprn2008]

Same here

[@LaRondaStuckman]

It's not too late. As you said kids are grown it's time to live for you. It is never too late.

[@michael43567]

Plain = Minimal alterations. Like what Ricky said. Plain does not mean average looking.

[@jocelynf4209]

Love this! Minimal alterations!

[@godseed79]

I think "safe" means exactly that... low/no probability of betraying or hurting me deeply.

[@brichmond007]

33:17 I was in a similar situation. I was able to go get the woman I wanted to be with and mend the heart that I broke. We have a beautiful life together now

[@TheBookOfRonin75]

Awesome testimony; those are sorely needed in these times

[@dawncosmic90]

You broke her heart before?

[@FAMD4SH]

@@dawncosmic90 and he will break it again.

[@FAMD4SH]

@geauxinin men like you should be given second chances. You should be left to live a life in regret. Your girl is foolish and she will eventually feel stupid for giving you another chance. If you broke her heart once You will do it again. You men don’t change you just manipulate women so you could get what you want.

[@godsgirl7201]

Wow pls keep saira on everything she speaks on I can relate to and is really life changing for me as a Latina

[@brothernumpcee]

If a plain women “can” be a baddie and if a baddie “can” be a plain women when she strips everything down. Then at the end of the day, the use of these adjectives are highly subjective and just like beauty these definitions are in the eye of the beholder 🤷🏽

[@kimmieboo1413]

A “plain Jane” is simply put a woman who is confident in who she is. A inner beauty that shines through. She doesn’t need attention to be who she is.

[@earphbound720]

BTaylor just wanted to tell that story to toot her own horn…. It was cringe

[@mudiwatm9131]

100% aligned with @SecurityBoss. Its where your mind, focus and energy is. It's a whole mental, emotional, spiritual posture.

[@godseed79]

There are so many men who seem unhappy in their marriage... they're pursuing other women either for a physical or emotional connection, or they complain about their wife constantly, or they just seem like they're unhappy in their life (think Eeyore). I've had a feeling that many men settle when they choose their wife and she's not really what he wants.

[@joannageorge9309]

I know too many men who have learned to look past the outer appearance, to find a woman with pure motives, peace, and who is genuine. Beauty fades. Plain doesn't mean ugly. No man wants drama and have to continue to compete for her attention when she continues to seek attention from men outside the relationship. Men are tired of this

[@YesThatTasha]

Yesss Saira stick up for your friends. Don't change your values... you're awesome

[@ItsAnEndlessWorld]

Yeah that stuck out to me, a quality for a woman I would admire. You're not easily moved by other's opinion.

[@TheBookOfRonin75]

It is an awesome quality indeed

[@nlm3223]

51:50 Kayla I hate to say this but all of the men agreed that you just weren’t wife material. While they said you have options to your face, they also said you seemed like the type of person that would never be satisfied. Nobody wants to be with someone who’s never satisfied or difficult to satisfy.

[@kayladottcom]

None of the men on that show are married - so your point is null in void especially since ALL the men on my season are STILL single except 1. Your ignorance is not becoming beloved.

[@carmay3600]

I know Trill is married. I think OT might be married.

[@MrKingShad]

@@kayladottcom but that’s the thing it’s a woman’s thang to get PICKED men give out the rings not women so your reply is ridiculous and makes no sense at all it’s not a shot to say men aren’t married 😂 nice try doe

[@MrKingShad]

@Patron305 she’s talking about the men on the show not krew season

[@tatianadaniel3569]

@@kayladottcom Trill, Ricky, and Smuv are married. OT is getting married.

[@ORIGINAL__ONE]

🔥 Plain means no makeup , ponytail , messy bun sweat pants , and still look better than females that wear makeup everyday. And It's funny how they try to take the "baddies" that's plain jane and take them out of the "plain" conversation 😂

[@supersweet131]

Some women are gorgeous without makeup, but most women are plain looking without makeup. Many plain women who choose to remain plain looking are more beautiful than the girls that wear a lot of makeup.

[@214silk2]

AC is 💯 on the first topic A lot of people are in relationships and marriages with someone they like and love but in the back of their mind it’s that one person you know could’ve been right for you as well.

[@CourtneeG]

As a plain Jane myself I have been perfecting my spirit and mind for a husband. Learning men and investing in my mindset to be an asset. They don’t want me either😂😂🙄

[@DanielleLaShawn]

Whoever doesn't want you is doing you a favor. He's getting out of the way for your future husband. ❤️

[@Kobi_J4]

30 min in and B, Kayla, and Shiba already at saira neck like damn you would think they would understand the cultural differences between them and the purpose of having a bit of diversity in perspective on the panel but it seems like they don't even try to hear her out. idk maybe I'm trippin but it's starting to seem like a pattern.

[@marcusevans406]

You not

[@deafdumbndistracted]

My first time ever watching this channel and I seen it. It’s hostile pbp

[@KnoNow9]

Jealousy!!! I noticed that immediately. Upset that she would be chosen over them in real life for more than just her appearance.

[@jocelynf4209]

I caught that too. Like sheesh. Her perspective and opinion is also valid. The other two women were a tad bit aggressive, rolling their eyes & clapping back for no reason. Lol

[@HoneysuckleRose813]

I seen this too. So you are not tripping and I also noticed Kayla body language and everything when Saira was speaking on female friendships. It spoke volumes to me.

[@learningearning8385]

They choose who “they can get” then cheat with the dream girl.

[@michael43567]

"They" = the men YOU choose.

[@Mona-ue5uk]

@@michael43567 Not who YOU choose, It who you thought was correct. They eventually choose each other. Here's another analogy stop choosing & marrying the church woman & choose the have an affair with the whore. Just marry the whore! Let her appear to be churchy on the outside but a whore inside. But, they can't make the whore happy or their wife cause she's a whore. 😆 🤣 Like/love who you like/love no matter if she's a whore. Cause when you cheat, with the whore, she gonna get pregnant anyway. So just marry the whore in the beginning.

[@downbad2874]

@@michael43567 not = most men

[@chelsdesign]

One of yall's best pods by far

[@alexatkins9515]

When I think of someone choosing someone safe I think of emotionally safe so why wouldn’t a healthy person want to be with someone safe lol I don’t even think that’s specific to men because I feel both men and women should be choosing people who make them feel safe. We need to feel safe in order to be vulnerable and connect with each other. If you don’t feel safe none of that will be happening.

[@YesThatTasha]

Beauty is in the EYE of the beholder! If you think you are gorgeous, don't let anyone take that away from you. Dont let these women destroy your confidence ladies.

[@michael43567]

You're free to believe what you want, but everyone is free to critique you too

[@emayan06]

@@michael43567 you missed the point. She didn’t say people can’t criticize. She saying don’t let what someone say take away from what you think about yourself.

[@michael43567]

@@emayan06 I never said she said people can't criticize. I was giving the other side of the coin. How most of society sees it.

[@MssssppSoldier]

Some men/women get married to a placeholder (aka 2nd or 3rd place on the roster) and wind up being JUST OK in the marriage but not fully happy then spend the rest of their years trying to convince themselves that they married them for the “right reason” but it was outta pressure and forced

[@DubWill]

In Boomerang: Robin Givens = baddie, Halle Berry = plain. Both were attractive but the presentation was different

[@TJFORBES]

Perfect example! ✊🏽

[@TheBookOfRonin75]

Agreed; 1 of the main examples that came to mind 1st.

[@ItsAnEndlessWorld]

Exactly!

[@ArethaRenee]

Great example

[@FSamuels20]

Another example is a Plain Rolex versus a buss down Rolex. Both look good. Plain Rolex is Lowkey and low maintenance, buss down Rolex is the opposite.

[@AN-fg4cd]

Trill is on point. Also, if your man is okay with you being out a lot or super busy, he is cheating big time. I see that often. The wife or girlfriend in her super career, while he is extremely accommodating and making her think it’s a perfect connection. Meanwhile, it seems perfect because he has a whole side relationship to “feel” that gap.

[@burninoutmyretnas4397]

Yup a man that loves his wife will refuse work to spend time at home with the woman of his dreams trust

[@joyworldwide369]

The car and credit is a great analogy. All facts

[@Ah_Leh]

The women seem to unanimously agree that a baddie may be aspirational/aesthetics, whereas the men seem to find the baddie to be a whole liability.

[@elisapierre-procope9177]

38:29 whooooo Shiba! Agreed. I've never heard "basic" women say ooh he settled. They didn't get chosen so.... "Oh he just settled".

[@kimmieboo1413]

Rickey mindset is A1 👏🏽👏🏽💯

[@juliusmoore2176]

I'm almost certain that B Taylor was one of those women that OT was describing, meaning that she took pleasure in declining a man's approach.

[@ItsAnEndlessWorld]

Noticed she had the most push back about it, that says it all.

[@KnoNow9]

She probably happy to get attention and can't wait to decline it.

[@clarassapolite2583]

" Baddie" is a NATURAL beauty

[@emayan06]

Nah baddies wear make up too

[@jocelynf4209]

This was such a great discussion! Loved the perspective of the panel as a whole. I learned a lot while watching especially from the men.

[@chicosworld]

Because men know those less attractive women are better "overall" women ....external beauty is temporary internal beauty is eternal

[@jochebed3675]

51:25 I believe men tend to value women who value them just as they are. No jumping through hoops, no jestering, no "proving themselves", no comparing him to the next or the last man, no dog n pony show. Just valuing him for him and respecting him as the man that he is. Maybe its "safer" or maybe its just accepting him for the man that he is, and not about what he can do for her...

[@butterflymage5623]

It’s what people want in general

[@jochebed3675]

@@butterflymage5623 relevance to the question that was being asked on the pane...nvm, ok.

[@TheBookOfRonin75]

It shouldn't be that hard, yet we do live in a highly superficial & delusional society so...

[@alexanderrichie7968]

Btaylor is an egomaniac

[@unapologetic1413]

She's operating in FULL SCALE MASCULINITY and it's tragic because she doesn't know how she looks...smh.

[@MrKingShad]

Trill asked “what is a baddie” and right away the women answer 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@ggshandsomeboy5103]

They actually argued their idea of a baddie. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@nlm3223]

28:41 see here we go with the shots at Siara. B Taylor can’t help herself because she never would’ve said that to Lucki or Kayla because they would’ve clapped back.

[@Mona-ue5uk]

B Taylor loved that the guy checked on her every now & again! That made her feel great! Because, the man she really wanted didn't want her. She need to be honest.

[@theshowbiz5]

Bruh that was unnecessary how she came at her lol

[@Mona-ue5uk]

@@theshowbiz5 Woman & men love attention! I can tell B Taylor wants attention no matter if it's positive or negative. She did snap at the woman for no reason. Just answer the question MATURELY. B Taylor is one of those woman who will scream, I don't have female friends because....blah...blah....blah!

[@AN-fg4cd]

It’s how interesting how the single folks have ALL the answers. Yet, the married folks are being over-talked.

[@KnoNow9]

B Taylor insecure clap towards Siara was pathetic

[@katycooper9837]

B Taylor and Kayla need to put the glasses of wine down! Everything is not an argument or debate! Its just a discussion and difference of opinion RELAX! 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@MrKingShad]

Lucki always hold her own shout out her

[@zykira2010]

She really do and saira

[@LaRondaStuckman]

Ricky be on point every time

[@Empress71-zn8du]

It’s a toxic trait of wanting what you can’t have. People are attracted to the chase and just because a man spins the block doesn’t always mean he wants you, he may be bored so be very careful with that. Don’t ignore the signs just because you want a husband you know that man had a taste for something else. Men are simple creatures

[@elisapierre-procope9177]

43:22 🔥 Ricky and OT with the hard cold facts. Too many of us think we're the best women. Those two ladies are just not listening.

[@roninque7574]

They bring BTaylor in for the ratchet BM POV😂🤣

[@unapologetic1413]

🌬️💨💨💨 Let's be Honest: Most beautiful women are VERY vain and superficial...it is what it is.🤷🏽‍♀️ Gorgeous women feel as though they have MANY options and don't treat men like they're NEEDED. They treat the men as though they should be so privileged to be with them...smh. On the other hand, Plain Jane's go out of their way to please a man and KEEP a man. They don't throw in men's faces that they have "options" or constantly focus on their physical aesthetics...huge difference!

[@TJFORBES]

@Saira__giron is an example of “plain” but stil BAD! 😅

[@ItsAnEndlessWorld]

She's definitely cute and hardly wears any makeup that's a plus in my eyes.

[@veronicaj777]

Its crazy how people can't be themselves. The judgement is SUPERFICIAL. We've moved so far away from the spiritual and soulful conversations. Fingers pointing, bashing, and then it's called being...real. Who are any of us to able to put someone on a meter and judge them? It's arrogant. I applaud Saira - she seems down to earth. God forgive us!

[@andrajohnson8007]

Thank You Trill . I never thought a Man would think the way I think! I have been intentional not to date until my kids were grown cause I couldn’t factor them in with career, family, church, friends, Now so much time has passed I seem not an option….

[@MelissaLona]

This question about do men settle, Kayla is getting it all wrong. She’s under the assumption that most men want the finest woman around to marry and if he’s with someone not as fine, he married the best he can get and has settled. I totally disagree with that. The problem is that Kayla thinks most men want to marry the baddie. In reality most men want to sleep with the baddie, he want to have fun with the baddie, he may even want to show her off so he can be seen with the baddie. But when men think marriage, they think differently. Some men will marry the baddie if she has substance. But I believe most men will take a beautiful plain Jane that has more to offer than an airhead baddie any day. That’s why you will hear a man say “I’ve been with all kinds of women but he want to marry this one particular woman” and she may not have been as beautiful as another woman in his past but he chose her. So I just think she off in her logic.

[@MrKingShad]

The ladies definition of a baddie was completely off 😅😂😂

[@TheBookOfRonin75]

Lol! Tragic Comedy

[@PillCosby407]

Kayla is the Mr. letgo on this panel she have a story for ever topic and she talks over everybody.

[@ItsAnEndlessWorld]

Ricky Williams for President!!!

[@moettb4068]

Am I the only one that's extremely irritated with"Taylor?". I noticed she mainly interrupts "Saira" and picks on her?. That shyt is highly irritating. her examples of her so-called "experiences" is sketchy to me, very SELF-CENTERED!. LOVE this channel and the topics though, I stay tuned in. this is just MY OPINION!One more thing! I am positive some of(or all of) you guys,, may have heard this before, that some women/men CHOOSE to be single, not HAVE to be! LOL!! QUEEN SHIBA! THANK YOU! For speaking the truth out loud about that internet"chick" who thought she was a "baddie" LMFAO😂. You said what I was literally thinking!

[@bjemaja]

Trill, you check on everybody else mental health. Who is checking up on yours? Trill, how is your mental health? 👍I just want to make sure you are doing okay.

[@supersweet131]

1:39:40 Wait… why is being called plain considered to be disrespectful??? Plain means a woman is natural… it does not mean she let her self go, and it doesn’t mean she’s ugly or homely. I think the men on this panel could have held down that part of the conversation on their own.

[@KynC26]

Lucki really be on it for me she logical & emotional

[@jenisisinc.1042]

Men don’t care about your career. He wants the woman that’s available to him.

[@diamondhands3668]

B Taylor stop he wanted to smash

[@tasjaneellis2725]

Birds of a feather, flock together

[@kayladottcom]

Great Panel as always ❤🍁

[@morena1022]

I LOOOOOOVVVVVVEEEEE your hair here. Sis, you look so beautiful.

[@theshowbiz5]

@1:50 … facts Trill

[@bigbadbull]

🔥🔥🔥✊🏽🛡⚔ Love the show.!!! ⚔🛡✊🏽🔥🔥🔥

[@bigbama4415]

You gotta love Lucki & SB. Especially Lucki. Krew Season keep doing y’all thing. Trill looking for advice on KZbin Channel.

[@SBULIVE]

🙏

[@ArianTyson]

@1:20:00 Like Trill said earlier, "IT'S NEVER ENOUGH" Folks are crazy AF. @1:30:00 "Baddies=Liability" Spot on Ricky. "A lot of baddies are manufactured". Spot on Ronin. @1:38:00 Most people are plain Lucki. Correct. However, Lucki is NOT "plain."

[@AN-fg4cd]

I think the definition of “settling” is getting misconstrued. Settling is clearly choosing what is around and not what you really wanted. That’s all.

[@ladytmoney4201]

I really enjoyed this ❤

[@tpoppy9303]

THE TRUTH is Men cuff plain girls because thats their lane. If they could pull a baddie they would. End of story.

[@rayshunjones9897]

B Taylor like the sister code cause that’s all she got 😂

[@unapologetic1413]

I think the only man that with her is a "beta" male. She operates in masculine energy...smh

[@aneshrathomas]

Real men appreciate authenticity so if that mean plain Jain then that’s it, some women love themselves truly and attract a man who love them. All that getting surgery and all that makeup to each their own but he gone have to see the real u one day

[@misutasutanto6312]

Saria and the older lady... I think she has something Security in her name they're the only two women up here with some sense...... The Other Women up here are ldiotic...smh Keep Saria I like the way she thinks

[@SBULIVE]

🤝

[@omartistry]

Current generation and different culture gives a different perspective.

[@TheToniDane]

I’m curious to see who is or has been married on this panel?

[@chi_townpeach3626]

❤❤❤❤❤ lucki n fmp robin they raw n uncut 💯

[@kiarrahh.871]

Security boss, Lucki, and Queen Shiba 👌🏽 are smart women 👏🏽

[@nomessnostress]

Wow didnt know this came up a year ago

[@Iamginaaa]

Love this dialog! Starting to like this channel! Is that Kayla that was on ready to love!? 😂 interesting to see her part of this plain/baddie convo ☕️ that wine sure ain’t no Pinot Grigio she was insisting on that show 😂🤣 some women don’t respect men on a whole so, their opinions will always be baised, hm let’s see how this goes.

[@mwooden930]

What’s really sad is a lot of women is me,me,me like the young lady was saying she would like flowers on Tuesday and then Thursday but why wouldn’t you make time to do something nice for your man/husband?

[@0geelocsme496]

Some of these ladies on the panel just do not know how to listen 😂

[@mseletstalkaboutit9337]

I feel differently. I feel the the “plain” women get passed over for the “baddies”

[@AN-fg4cd]

Depends on the type of guys you like or want.

[@wisesa09]

Conversation is unbalanced and everywhere. Trying to weed through all the left field 'what ifs', 'I feel like', is like trying to corral cats 🤦🏾

[@ijayk]

Honestly, Krew season is a relationship pod, I am surprised they've not done a speed date or love connection show.

[@africanempress7174]

Men change their minds constantly on what they want. They don’t lnow!

[@shaneayoung4865]

What’s considered “plain” though? Is that not subjective? Correct me if I’m wrong

[@IslandPrincess96dgrs]

I randomly came across this video and almost skipped it. Glad I didn’t. Love the mature conversation. 😅

[@Ah_Leh]

Aisha wanting Steph's attention is something she needs to communicate/facilitate (low key, via her own feminine mastery so then, yes a hobby sincerely is in order! )