Why Mihawk VS Shanks Is NOT Close

[@jamesalvin8615]

Mihawk vs someone is gonna break the internet

[@uncleiroh7967]

Only to end up losing to zoro

[@beepboop4833]

@@uncleiroh7967 Zoro who will be stronger than Shanks lmao

[@odysseusdadon1234]

@@beepboop4833not possible

[@96montecarlo1]

Shanks: A Swordsman Mihawk: The World's Strongest Swordsman Still going with Mihawk on this one, if Shanks WAS the Stronger of the 2, he'd be Zoro's goal, not Mihawk, it was also stated he's waiting for a Swordsman that surpasses Shanks to come challenge him

[@johnnydepp665]

He is waiting for someone who surpasses 20 yo shanks who still had both arms not current one cause mihawk dont consider shanks as a swordman anymore

[@Moore321]

​@@johnnydepp665wdym he doesn't consider him a swordsman? Where did u get that from?

[@johnnydepp665]

@@Moore321 he refuses to duel him means he dont consider him as true swordman

[@Moore321]

@johnnydepp665 bruh what are you reading? He refuses to fight him bc he isn't what he used to be. Nowhere did it say he doesn't consider him a swordsman.

[@ShadowStyle369]

@@johnnydepp665Mihawk calls shanks a one armed has been… definition of has been is outdated and we now know that shanks uses rogers techniques oda even hypes shanks by saying he is the only one that could learn divine departure…. Mihawk quite literally considers shanks/rogers swordsmanship as outdated 😂

[@FTL_SAN]

What makes you think mihawk doesn’t have great haki? Doesn’t your haki bloom from fighting strong opponents. His main opponent was shanks. And he fought enough strong opponents to make a black blade…

[@thefirstson_05]

How did Zoro cut Pika, Kaido, King... Was is Haki or Sword Skill or both. In relation to swordsman Haki and Sword Skill are Congruent and separating these factors doesn't make sense. Mihawk taught Zoro HAKI .............not some 'special sword twirling skill'.!!! Do you consider Fujitora a swordsman if he is busy pulling meteors out of space??

[@eclectic_chris2809]

I think a good comparison of how better sword skill doesn't equal stronger is when Luffy picked up a sword in wano. Luffy was always stronger but as a swordsman he was trash. In the same way shanks swordsmanship is likely more undefined than mihawks but shanks overall strength is greater

[@strykervirus1724]

What is this Shanks' "overall strength"? What do you mean by that?

[@lorenzrenner1866]

Mihawk is one of the few characters that Oda is literally giving us nothing on cuz he's keeping him for the VERY end, like we hevent even gotten ONE SINGLE named attack from Mihawk. Just let oda cook and see how Mihawk will be a completely different beast. Plus I hate that „mihawk was not in kaidos top 5" because cant NOBODY tell me Mihawk wouldnt at least shit on Oden.

[@leohoutarou9980]

First off, everything you said is a theory and not confirmed( unlike shanks abilities) and second, bro, he literally showed us mihawk fighting before shanks lmao. Also swordsmanship is different to power. Did you even watch the video?

[@HouseOfGreatsword]

​@@leohoutarou9980fighting pre time skip characters and not trying at all did you read his comment?

[@lorenzrenner1866]

@leohoutarou9980 First off, whats your point dude? 2. I just said that Mihawk is built up to be and will be super super strong and you had to pull up glazing shank who I didnt even mention. 3. YES!! The fact that Mihawk was almost the first dude they ran into but we STILL 25 years later never seen him get serious in a fight at all, matter of fact NEVER seen him using a single named attack even though we seen him fight in probably the biggest war in the modern history of one piece. So yeah we didnt get ANYTHING from mihawk everything is still coming and it will be a lot the way oda cooked. And wtf is „swordsmanship is different to power“ supposed to mean? Its such a dumb sentence that has nothing to do with what I said. Just accept that Zoro will beat Mihawk and then be stronger than shanks ever was and by that point shanks probably already got offscreened by blackbeard (who mihawk would shit on btw)

[@Aybee.AB-.-72]

Mihawk's my favorite one piece character but ain't no way can mihawk "shit on blackbeard" 😂 brah And especially a version of blackbeard that has "offscreened" shanks. At the very BEST mihawk is a bit stronger than shanks. And thematically, he's probably weaker cuz of haki.

[@strykervirus1724]

​@@Aybee.AB-.-72He can't be thematically weaker than Shanks because of haki as thematically it will go against the theme of "dreams" by literally destroying Zoro's.

[@JT-km6th]

Mihawk is stronger because Oda said so. What argument can even possibly be made that makes sense the other way? It just sounds like desperation. Only if Oda retcons WSS, give Mihawk anti-feats, or gives Shanks a feat Mihawks max level output feat cannot replicate will Mihawk not be the strongest.

[@Aybee.AB-.-72]

THEMATICALLY, shanks is stronger If you put great weight on statements, then the statement "haki transcends all should mean something to you" Secondly, if you say mihawk has haki too, then sure..... We can even say he has the best observation haki because of his clairvoyant title that wasn't officially granted to him. But then again, shanks is the observation killer is he not. So, haki being superior for shanks, I'd say he's stronger whilst having worse sword skills This and all of shanks' feats make it hard to go with mihawk although I'd like too

[@strykervirus1724]

​@Aybee.AB-.-72 Hmm, you agree then that "sword skills" can not make one the strongest but haki can. If Shanks' haki is better, no matter how weak his sword skills are, he will still be the strongest. Here's the thing, though: he isn't. Which says a lot about Mihawk's haki. After all. .. 1. We know nothing about Mihawk's haki. 2. Shanks is NOT confirmed to the best or strongest haki user in the series.

[@greybo4034]

​@@strykervirus1724how can you confidentially say he isnt 😂😂 the other guy made a valid point haki trancends all and shanks and mihawk are knows as rivals and whenever they are talked about together..To rival mihawk you need atleast similar swordsmanship or stronger haki it could be said mihawk having a superior swordsmanship meanwhile shanks has better haki since to duel and fight together shanks needs atleast one of em to stand equal. If shanks was defeated by mihawk then when wb mentioned about the duel he sure would have said that but ya he didn't. Imo mihawk= shanks

[@strykervirus1724]

@greybo4034 Erm... 🤦‍♂️ at least be consistent with your stance. If the other guy is right and haki transcends all... then... 1. Why does Mihawk's swordsmanship matter? It doesn't because "HAKI transcends all." 2. Plus, you committed a blunder. Since you said Shanks needs haki to rival Mihawk's swordsmanship, that presents a problem. Chp 1058, Shanks' swordsmanship (which you insinuate is different from swordsmanship) is compared to Mihawk. Making Shanks a master swordsman in his own right. Plus his supposed greater haki... wouldn't that logically follow he is stronger than Mihawk? After "haki transcends all," his swordsmanship is up there with Mihawk. 3. They can't be equal. It destroys Zoro's dream narratively and assassinates Mihawk's character.

[@ioanealavidze4716]

Shanks>Mihawk makes no sense.

[@cynicalmandate]

It really comes down to who has their "big fight" first. If Shanks is first, Mihawk is the strongest. Any other way would be weird.

[@Unchained8358]

Doesn't matter who fights first. They are both relative and either one can win depending on the situation. Mihawk right now might be a bit stronger overall because he is not handicapped

[@Rocks_D_Xebek]

no shanks not stronger than mihawk, mihawk is just depressed dude, dont give a fuck about anything, just killing time by playing with rabbits[whole one piece verse], he knows if he put even some effort game is over. we just got full extent of shanks observation haki but we dont know mihawks, like shanks is called killer of observation haki miahwk is called hawk eye, we just got glimse of mihawk observation haki in marinford when mihawk showed luffy future[his arms cutting off] we know oda saves best for last, mihawk has observation haki greater than or equal to shanks [ maybe shanks can see more far into future but observation can be used in lot of ways that are unknown to us], also we see armament haki can be used more advansed as we see in wano so its fare to assume that mihawk has greatest armament haki user currently alive [ maybe armament haki can used to block everthing including cnq haki maybe more].

[@eter9310]

Shanks> mihawk wont ever make sense stop trying to make it work because you love shanks 😂

[@Deveshkha]

we haven't seen shit from either of them for a vs video, especially with mihawk

[@worldbosspf1]

Shows how desperate or emotional IQ Shanks/Sanji fans are.

[@JT-km6th]

Doesn’t matter, Oda said WSS is Mihawk. He can choose to not show a single feat and it will be true until he says it’s not true.

[@Certified_100]

We seen mihawk state the difference in power between him and white beard even at old age !!! Shanks looks like his strength is on par or stronger then white beards we see. Them haki clash split the heavens… I think shanks is probably the strongest haki user in the whole show … I don’t think mihawk could 1v1 Kaido

[@kingsiretheog]

the Jozu thing is disproven by all slashes are calibrated for an intended target, the slash was not for cutting diamond. Also while fighting Vista he wasn't even paying him any attention because he was talking to himself while still monitoring luffy mid fight

[@redstarkboxingsportsnews4289]

No sirrrrr his intended target was literally HIM saying let me test myself against the strongest man in the world and jozu jumped in between like stop it u don’t get that honor 😂😂😅🤫

[@strykervirus1724]

​​@@redstarkboxingsportsnews4289Did Mihawk really say that or are you putting words in his mouth?? Before you say anything though, go reread what he actually said before you make a fool of yourself 🤫

[@michaelmayers3622]

No

[@michaelmayers3622]

No

[@XangoFwet]

Whitebeard: World Strongest Man. Uses Haki. Kaido: World’s Strongest Creature. Used Haki. Mihawk: World’s Strongest Swordsman. Does not Use Haki? What? All of these upper echelon characters use Haki in High Tier fights my guy. Mihawk hasnt been shown using Shanks lev l Haki or beyond that is because no character that has fought him has given him any reason to do so. His black blade is already PERMANENTLY COATED IN HAKI. It’s the same as Akuma, only a handful of characters have given him reason to go Shin Akuma. Unless he meets a credible threat? He wont go all out.

[@Sloan-g3o]

it can't " PERMANENTLY COATED IN HAKI" because he cut buggy and he survived "

[@JT-km6th]

@@Sloan-g3oBuggy looks like he separates on contact. Haki doesn’t negate df abilities, it makes the person you want to hit hittable. Issue is when you slice Buggy, his body slices which does no damage since he is made to be sliced.

[@nagatouzumaki4628]

Mihawk is strongest sword user in name and reality

[@HouseOfGreatsword]

​@@Sloan-g3othis has to be rage bait😂 buggy does NOT have a logia and using haki wont allow you to cut him

[@strykervirus1724]

​@@HouseOfGreatswordHuh... it will cut him if you use haki. His fruit isn't a logia but functions like one against swordsmen with no haki.

[@leohoutarou9980]

Shanks losing his arm was stated that it was for luffy to really be impacted by the whole situation creating like a trauma in a good way where he will never give up on being a pirate because someone that saved him was a great one

[@JeTwaintwon]

Jozu was 100% using haki on top of his diamond devil fruit. It definitely takes strong conquerors coating to one tap air slash that 12:43

[@siphezulu5119]

Isn’t divine departure a sword technique?

[@uncleiroh7967]

With the second greatest haki feat. Can mihawk use haki like that? Nope

[@hollowtree9763]

@@uncleiroh7967 why are you so certain, iroh?

[@uncleiroh7967]

@@hollowtree9763 devine departure is only a legendary as it is because of the haki. And you relegate it to just a sword attack?

[@hollowtree9763]

@@uncleiroh7967 I meant about mihawk not being able to use haki like that

[@uncleiroh7967]

@@hollowtree9763 because haki is about will. And mihawk has zero if we being honest

[@almy-qy1lf]

Overall good qnqlysis: One thing though about Blackbeard. He didn't say he wasn't ready to fight Shanks, as Shanks never offered a duel. He said WE are not ready yet to take on YOU GUYS. He ws talkingabout his newly formed crew, vs The Red Hair's Pirates crew. They're pirates. Shanks said since chapter 1 that there's no fairness in pirate fights. And of all people, Teach is one of the best placed to know better than to expect a fair fight against another pirate crew.

[@greybo4034]

See there is no fair 1v1 when Blackbeard is involved

[@Moore321]

If shanks told him about luffy. Then it must mean that he met with shanks aftet being one handed. And since mihawk dismissed him in this meeting and not the previous, maybe they fought the first time. That way mihawk will know shanks is a "has been" But it cld just be mihawk's ability to know the power of foes

[@damz3032]

He knows nothing lol

[@strykervirus1724]

​@@damz3032Read the story

[@detroit4475]

I hate when ppl assume 🙄. When main fighting techniques is with the use of a sword where he channels his haki through his sword. A person had daily sword duels. Shanks is a swordman. What u guys dnt get about Mihawk is this. When Mihawk fight ppl he never goes all out . Where Shanks does. He could easly kill Zoro . But pulls out a pocket knife lol. And said he never hunt rabbits with a connon. MIHAWK TITLE IS THE STRONGEST SWORDMAN NOT MOST SKILL. Think about this how bad ass u have to be to hunt marines. But the world government couldnt stop you so they ask u to join them. Mihawk goes around like he is bored. He hasnt use haki yet cus he had no reason to. Every one with the title the strongest is a power house. When Mihawk set up ever stop and look at Mihawk. All the admirals took notice. SHANKS got famous from fighting Mihawk. Also last point . LUFFFY ALSO FIGHT NO MATTER HOW STRONG THE PERSON IS. But he said Mihawk was to strong and ran from him. To run to fight 3 admirals lol.

[@Sloan-g3o]

mihawk goes out of his way to smurf in the weakest sea, just for that he can't be stronger

[@YayoHernandez-b1j]

Shanks it’s even much more powerful and stronger than Mihawk

[@dripko]

W

[@meerkitty171]

Damn you really think Mihawk is an absolute fraud like that? there at least close

[@flacshlinen637]

Every top tier in One Piece is a Haki user. Show me one instance where sharks use Haki without holding or using his sword. Yall is fucking goofy if yall think Mihawk doesn't fight with Haki all mihawk has been doing is just slash slash slash named no haki no effort meanwhile shanks like to flex Haki's flexing divine departure a named attack bro how would he let his vice-captain do more dmg, Ben took his hand shanks just knock him out I bet he ain't dead. The Akainu attack was meant for Koby as fodder at that time 😂😂😂 shanks snuck up and blocked the attack, and you all gave him that many plays 😆 🤣 just wait when we see a named attack from Mihawk. Y'all rat fans are going to cry.

[@Cheeksbuster]

@@flacshlinen637You need help?

[@ShadowStyle369]

Hawkeyes clears

[@blankblank6214]

Come on, man, when it comes to swordsmen, he is factual the closest to Mihawk when it comes known swordsman

[@Shineofeden]

Mihawk needs to settle it with vista before we talk about him vs shanks

[@Moore321]

You really think a pirate of 3 billion berries can't beat Vista? Mihawk bounty isn't like anyone else. It's purely about strength. Shanks has territories and fleets and is captain of a crew. Mihawk has himself alone

[@memeaccount8309]

Get shanks past a sea king 🤕

[@blankblank6214]

Shanks lost his dominant arm so I guess Mihawk just took notice

[@yutaoGOATsu236]

This argument is stupid people really act like when they say swordskill they just mean finesse with the blade or something as if mihawk isn't carrying a sword the size of himself that is clearly not what they mean swordskill in one piece equates to overall all power haki included thats why mihawk is the world STRONGEST swordsman wielding the world strongest blade meaning mihawk is stronger than shanks and yoru is stronger than grifith debate over

[@shafferhelfer3509]

mihawk is stronger, has better armament, is heavily implied to have future sight (his original epithet was clairvoyance, which means seeing into the future, and he was able to detect luffy's future sight). And if he does have conqueres haki, it's stronger than shank's.

[@johnss9114]

correction dorry and broggy have been battling for 100 of years they never met roger or whitebeard so them saying shanks haki is strong means nothing

[@greybo4034]

They just saw shanks use his haki against kidd a while back which is why they compared the conq haki of shanks and joyboy its not that deep

[@johnss9114]

@greybo4034 no What I'm saying is he said shanks has the strongest haki. I doubt the giants met joyboy. They said that was the strongest haki they felt even greater than red-haired. I'm saying that's not a feat considering the giants never met any yonko or even big mom as they were fighting on a seperate island the entire time

[@meerkitty171]

Great video. Im still team Mihawk because I think Zoro needs to beat the best, not number 2.

[@strykervirus1724]

I think there is a fundamental flaw in your argument. Let's begin here... 1. Haki transcends all. This statement will both hold true for all characters with all sorts of different fighting styles. Meaning... for swordsmen, the one with the strongest haki will be the strongest one of them all. Am I wrong? If Shanks' haki is then superior to Mihawk, even if he has a miniscule "sword skill," he would be stronger than Mihawk. Afterall... you used Luffy and Kaido vs. Zoro as an example. Both Luffy and Kaido have basically zero sword skills but have greater haki. Hence, they beat Zoro, right? Zoro's swords skills in this case don't matter at all. I would argue the same holds true if Shanks, a swordsman, has haki greater haki than Mihawk, coupled with his swordsmanship, which is compared to Mihawk... the logic follows that Shanks should be the WSSM. But he isn't. And what does that say for Mihawk?

[@strykervirus1724]

But some will say... Mihawk is the strongest because he has greater "sword skill" and not haki. But here, the flaw is seen again. Mihawk's "sword skills" alone will never be enough for him to be the strongest if "HAKI TRANSCENDS ALL." Haki will naturally transcends "sword skills" and hence Mihawk can not be the strongest. Shanks will be. But that will lead to a contradiction in the story. As Mihawk is the WSSM.

[@strykervirus1724]

Again, another fundamental flaw. Haki = willpower/spirit. If being the WSSM is based on "sword skill" (or sword play alone as some in the community see it), then it practically means, as a swordsman, your willpower or spirit isn't required for you to be the strongest. Or, it matters less in your quest to be the strongest. Forget your willpower/spirit/haki and focus on "swinging your sword around better." Pre-timeskip Zoro is using the same 3 sword style as Post-timeskip Zoro. Both swing their swords about the same way. Difference techniques obviously require different swinging. In terms of swinging swords... there really isn't much difference between pre - and Post-timeskip Zoro. Has Zoro then reached his peak? Is he the strongest? How do you quantify sword play and who has the best? How does swinging your sword make you the strongest? Who will fear you if your sword technique doesn't have haki? How far will you go if your will/haki is weaker than another? Zoro told Pica he would beat him because his haki was better. We all agree Post-timeskip Zoro is stronger than Pre-timeskip Zoro. The difference isn't sword play or swinging his sword but HAKI. You NEED HAKI and at the max to be deemed the WSSM.

[@MicaW4VE]

I'd like to point out vista and mihawk postponed their duel because this took place moments before the enclosing walls were about to go up. Mihawk sensed something strange was about to happen so he wanted to stop before they were both caught in it. That's why vista says: "that'd be advantageous for both of us" because regardless of who's side your on the magma fists attack indescriminetly and they both get screwed over by it Also akainu didn't attack shanks because he was careful about how strong shanks was, it was because marines can't just blindly attack yonkos without permission from the fleet admiral, shanks being a yonko means akainu can't just fight him without sengoku's permission, that's why nobody rashly decided to fight shanks and sengoku ultimately was the one calling the shots despite how adamant akainu is about justice and pirates

[@FTL_SAN]

13:40 I don’t think that’s luffy using future sight. Look at the paneling. It looks like mihawk is causing luffy to see that. I think mihawk can force people to see different futures.

[@michaelmayers3622]

No

[@FTL_SAN]

@ okay and? As if you have a better explanation

[@kingsiretheog]

Shanks glazing was not as intense as others but still there a bit......haki is apart of sword fighting at the highest level.....so if "haki man Shanks" puts his haki into an attack are we saying Mihawk can't block it or stop it?

[@strykervirus1724]

Apparently, if he uses his "god haki" with his sword, he beats Mihawk. Because that isn't swordsmanship.

[@vash9760]

Haki>DF>Weapons

[@KirkHolbrookVll]

I don't even think blackbeard and his entire crew will have beated Kaido abd big mom on the rooftop minus what we got, just Kaido would blitz blackbeards and his whole crew

[@the_marvelous_one]

Greatest swordman>swordman

[@dripko]

Who wins Shanks or Mihawk debate over here

[@AsightProduction]

Mihawk

[@ultracrepiderian]

Shanks

[@moonnightsnack]

World's Strongest Swordsman vs a swordsman, WSS is stronger and wins

[@ultracrepiderian]

@moonnightsnack so WB was the strongest man during marine ford? Kaido was the strongest creature? Garp who hates the celestial dragons is the hero of the Marines? I can go on and on, titles don't mean shit

[@moonnightsnack]

@@ultracrepiderian Are you like slow? Whitebeard's title was given to him during his prime, yes kaido was the strongest creature , yes garp is the hero of the marines.. just because you hate the people you work for doesn't change the things you did for your career?😂

[@kennethdavy4051]

Mihawk over shanks. Yes we want more from mihawk in the story, and it’s fair to go off the feats we physically seen. But Oda said mihawk is the world’s strongest swordsman. I don’t get the debate, sure shanks is more popular but mihawk being stronger takes nothing away from shanks. Shanks is still a yonko with territories and etc, like it takes nothing away from him. Nobody can roll up on shanks 🤣. And then it would totally take away zorro’s dream. If shanks was the best, shanks would be his goal. Zorro gotta surpass shanks and then surpass mihawk, which I know none of yall want 🤣. It’s just like dragon, we know he’s strong and capable, he’s a monkey D in his prime. We just gotta wait and see what they do. Just my opinion and understanding, no need to come after my heritage or anything 🤣

[@greybo4034]

See when whitebeard talked about the clash of him and mihawk he clearly would have said something about the victor when they both fought but the fact that whitebeard sees shanks as his equal is clearly surprising because if shanks had lost the fight against mihawk then im sure whitebeard would have taken that into consideration..and oda stated in an sbs that shanks never really got qeaker after he lost his dominant arm.I would say mihawk = shanks and the title is given because shanks never really had the intention to be the strongest swordsman hence he doesn't have a black blade , he just has a different goal compared to mihawk who already achieved his..From mihawks pov it makes sense that he doesn't figut against shanks after he lost his arm because if he win or lose its going to be a close one and would stain his pride. Shanks on the other hand just don't care. When vista was talking about mihawk he said its a dream of every swordsman to fight against him and thats the narrative of mihawk meanwhile shanks has a higher status and its not closed by the barrier of "swordsman"

[@strykervirus1724]

​@@greybo40341. You don't need to be chasing after the WSSM title to get a black blade. "Any blade can become a black blade". 2. I dont know what higher status for Shanks you're saying here but it's doesn't erase him from being a swordsman. So I don't know why that matters. 3. Kaido lost how many times? WB in his prime didn't even want to fight him. Shanks losing to Mihawk wouldn't change anything as being a yonko is more than just individual strength or win and loss ratio. 4. Mihawk CANNOT be equal with anyone. It defeats Zoro's dream. And assassinates Mihawk's character.

[@alamo2309]

We don't know shi not watching

[@ogrebelq]

Shanks vs mihawk no haki , i think mihawk wins

[@strykervirus1724]

Hmm, what about with haki?

[@Saitama.Opm0]

Let Mihawk Past Vista First😅

[@Moore321]

As he said. Only a fool will go all out on rabbits

[@HouseOfGreatsword]

let shanks past a sea king first😢

[@Moore321]

@@HouseOfGreatsword lol fr😂😂

[@ultracrepiderian]

Shanks slams fraudhawk

[@SanjiFansCopeHarder]

Rat boy dreams 🛌

[@Shineofeden]

Mihawk needs to settle it with vista before we talk about him vs shanks

[@HouseOfGreatsword]

shanks gotta settle it with the sea king

[@flacshlinen637]

Mihawk can never let a sea king eat his arms same sea king that Chapter 1 Luffy one-shot 🤣🤣 and Mihawk can never get scratched by Blackbeard without a devil fruit 💀 Blackbeard's arms would have been sliced like 🧈 out of all the people it had to be jump beard 🤣🤣 that off-screen Haki is too much for shanks so he decided to snitch on his ass to the world government and whitebeard what a fucking 🐀