Why Moving to Australia Changed My Life (in surprising ways)

I Why Moving to Australia Changed My Life (in surprising ways)
I wanted to riff a bit about the things that completely surprised me about moving to Australia.
I thought that this country, being that we are in the same hemisphere as that of South Africa, would be a seemingly soft and easy transition, and boy was I wrong.
There are so many differences in our culture that you must be aware of before moving here just so that you’re not caught off guard, and my hope is that this video at least starts the conversation.
Living in Australia is an absolute dream, and although this video doesn't cover the 'how to move to Australia' it shares why i moved to Australia and what life in Australia is like for me as a South African. I also share things i wish i knew before moving to Australia and how, even though I've been here for 16 years, I still feel like a foreigner.
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[@AriannaPienaar]

Thank you for tuning in. I'd love to hear from you if you've experienced anything similar, or if you're a South African living abroad, have you noticed any cultural differences ?

[@Quinctili]

You might be a Sigma personality, it's worth examining. Possibly INFJ, ENFJ.

[@iggyblitz8739]

I am not South African I just wanted to say how interesting your accent is, it sounds like a crossed between South African and Australian, and you're so right about keeping things in perspective, yes very lucky to be in the lucky country.

[@AriannaPienaar]

@@Quinctili I’m actually an INFP-A

[@AriannaPienaar]

@@iggyblitz8739 I like it ‘worldly’ / ‘travelled’ because it’s never one nor the other. 😜

[@roystewart9995]

Yeah I met a bloke from South Africa, when he pulled up at the traffic lights he asked everyone to lock their doors, I never asked how long he'd been living in Australia but that really hit home for me. I thought it must of be like living in a war zone over there. Yes Yes Yes a lot of Australians don't really know how lucky we are living in this great country.

[@AriannaPienaar]

Oh yes - that’s a thing. Closing doors and windows and making sure you have no bags or valuables in sight.

[@edwardamosbrandwein3583]

@@AriannaPienaar Greetings from a Rhodesian who moved to South Africa in 1980 and from there to Israel in 1999.

[@troygerencer1620]

I had a friend as a security consultant in South Africa , some vehicles there were fitted with flame throwing devises to warn off car jackings . That is the reality of how bad some areas are there . We are very lucky to live here and it should never be taken for granted. Storeys like this are a great reminder of that. 👍 This young lady is the poster Girl of successful integration - the type we Want to see immigrate here . 🇦🇺

[@LyamQ]

Thank you, great little video. I’ve also experienced being very grateful for living in Australia and feel I don’t take it for granted. Being in a safe, healthy, thriving society has made a huge impact on my life and allowed me to live in a way I never could have imagined. Growing up in South Africa was traumatic and has influenced me, making me a little more resilient probably protective and maybe a little quick to go directly to a decisive response. I feel lucky to be able to pause now, and reflect on all the possible ways of being, and to have more choices out of life. Thriving and opposed to surviving. I’ve been here 11 years now, the thought of living in SA is not even close to being on the cards. I just hope my siblings will find a safe, beautiful place to live too.

[@geoffreypayne6867]

one of my in laws is an American and she always tells me...that on the surface Aust & US are similar..ie English..Consumer goods..etc...but when she started living here she realised under the surface there are huge differences.

[@marlinblack6597]

Sunshine, your living in Australia now, you can say what ever you bloody well like. We're all good with that.

[@troygerencer1620]

Well said 😁

[@testicool013]

Nope

[@dukkha62]

Very true. Aussies have no idea how lucky we are having clean running water, an efficient infrastructure and a relatively crime-less society. The transition from a third world to a first world culture must be a shock.

[@AriannaPienaar]

It’s all relative isn’t it? If you’ve not had to worry about any of those things before, then it wouldn’t be top of mind.

[@peterslocomb152]

As a person who works in the water industry in Victoria, I would just like to point that it is not luck that you have clean, abundant and safe drinking water. Committed people make it happen.

[@nickybutt9733]

Her accent has totally changed from South African

[@testicool013]

She has an English accent

[@mikesmechanical1102]

Accurate 💯 The best thing is interacting with another immigrant who has the same deep appreciation. It’s like a mutual understanding within the first few words of meeting.

[@paigelangley9150]

Hi, I am a South African, but I grew up in Australia for 10 years. My formative years of development and an immigration clerical error on paperwork caused our family to have to immigrate back. But this is immaterial. I have now spent 10 years back in South Africa. And to be honest, I have seen the decline in SA as you have articulated. And likewise, when I speak to my Aussie friends, we often discuss how Aussies are so very, very lucky. As you will know, that was a statement made on news broadcasts in the 07 to 09 era (Australia is referred to as a lucky country) The interesting thing, however, is that the community has changed in SA. We do actually care about our friends and neighbours. Living through the July 21 riots, we saw the communities of SA stand up against the injustices that were occurring at the time, not the police force, and certainly not the military, but the citizens of this nation said not on our watch. I am also a community volunteer, but this was fostered by Australian culture and not SA culture, that being said being a community volunteer here, also means to a certain extent you see and witness the beating heart of the nation. The one that the news doesn't cover. I have done a fair bit of traveling around the country and spoken to many different people from many different walks of life. What is heartbreaking is we as a whole, immaterial of socio-economic background, demographic, race, religion, etc. We all often want the same thing. It's so strange to bear witness to, but juxtapositioned to that is this government has created an acceptance to corruption and theft, with no accountability. To the extent that the everyday South African will just accept an act of crime and not even report the incident because of a lack of trust and faith in a system. The heartbreaking point is that good people at times have been forced into desperate measures from a place of despair, and at times even with good intentions, an opportunity may present itself and resorting to that opportunity is a better outcome than the path one was on, or in a constant fight with a corrupt system. In brief, to answer your question on community, like a country that is both first and 3rd world simultaneously, so to is the nations sense of community both a yes and no answer. An American youtuber I watched referred to the American community based on hobbies, and at times, I feel I see this similar outcome in the South African society mearly as a point of my own observation.

[@margaretbrown2568]

Much that happens to us growing up does impact on our behaviour and attitudes. I think that after 16 years that you haven’t lost your recognition of your blessings that others take for granted, speaks positively of you as a person. This was a very educational video, thank you for reminding us of our blessings, especially at this time.

[@AriannaPienaar]

Thanks for reflecting that back to me Margaret 🤍

[@C.A.MARSUPIAL-ys6tl]

You didn't mention how clean the council's keep the streets. Im proud now how well Australia is run. As a Aussie it's taken a long time for me to feel that way.

[@Raven53492]

Good morning Ariana? I'm going to take a guess that you live in Perth western Australia. I've been told that one eigth of the population of Perth is south African. I was a courier in perth for 32 years and have recently retired. Couriers meet every nationality on the planet so I can easily relate to their desires to come to Australia to live. I had the pleasure to meet many south Africans and I always said to them "you've come to Australia to die naturally ( as opposed to being murdered) they whole heartedly agreed with me. I once made a delivery to a young man from Afghanistan and no doubt they have been at war since 1980 . Having realised this I repeated the same thing to him as I did to the south Africans ie " you've come here to die naturally " . He became totally offensive towards me calling me a racist, loud verbal threats ,pointing fingers etc threatening to report me to the appropriate authorities. In retrospect I was totally surprised at two diametrically opposed responses from exactly the same phrase.

[@troygerencer1620]

Welcome to Australia Arianna 😁 Great to hear someone moving over here to actually show some appreciation of what we have to offer and embrace our way of life . THAT is the type of integration that love to see here , this is what makes us Australian- Together 👍 🇦🇺

[@mariaisabelgonzalez9429]

Great experiences...great video...THANKS A LOT

[@giahaasbroek4717]

Omg loved this video! I’m also a South African who lives in the Netherlands, thinking about Australia :))))

[@reneemac111]

I am a South African, parents were Dutch, living in Australia. Love Australia.

[@WhitefoxSpace]

I realized last year that we're emigrating to Australia when I purposely left an iPad behind the security gate. My thinking was if someone breaks in and snatches an iPad they might be happy with that and then leave. The "passive" mental tax of living in ZA is really brutal and I think we've been slow-boiled for so long we don't really notice it consciously anymore. Can I ask where about you live in Aus? We've got friends in Gold Coast so we might end up there, first. Curious about the rest of Oz though :) Thanks for the video

[@jamescoote8654]

good onya young lady,hope you have a great live here,all the best

[@Robrulz666icloud]

I’m a 48 year old Aussie and couldn’t agree more with you we a so blessed 🇦🇺❤️ THANK YOU.

[@AriannaPienaar]

Thank you for commenting and for acknowledging our blessings here.

[@genomedia44]

This was very interesting. The points raised is generally the most common ones we all know about, but it would be very interesting if you can dig deeper into those differences that you've experienced. Cheers

[@louisaklimentos7583]

It is lovely to see that you appreciate Australia . There is British business man who once lived in Perth but now lives in the Phillipines and has established a business there and he lives like a King . All he did was say how expensive Australia is and is thriving in the Phillipines . He even said that the people in Australia don’t go out of their way to help you . He prefers the weather in the Phillipines and the beaches are so untouched . He lived in Perth and Western Australia doesn’t have any pristine beaches ? The cost of living is high in Australia but our wages are also high compared to the Phillipines . For him to be able to live like a King in the Phillipines , he must have reasonable amount of money that he made in Australia in order to live so well overseas. Thank you for your lovely video .

[@testicool013]

Wtf are you talking about

[@patricebennett1100]

I’m Aussie and when I worked for many years as cabin crew for EK, I flew with many ZA girls as colleagues My conclusion back then was “ woah, they look like me, but they are not like me” I surmised back then, that they come from a dog eat dog world so the way we conduct ourselves is different. I always got on with them, but I used my head and let them have their way the whole flight. They were fine as long as you didn’t challenge them.

[@theosokupa2861]

You are spot on about South Africa ….survival of the fittest.

[@AriannaPienaar]

Unfortunately so 😕but you know, it makes us quite resilient and gritty in the world.

[@queenslander954]

In New Zealand that would be survival of the futtest

[@segadavern]

Australia became British penal colony when America got independence. British convicts were transported to Australia to live or die. The culture of reliance on each other to survive the harsh realities of the condition was developed. Where do you think the very iconic greeting of “G’Day Mate” originate from? To not only survive but to build new life for themselves, the convicts, laid down the foundation for modern Australia through blood, sweat and tears. Today people from all over the world want to come and live in Australia. Listen to the song “I am Australian” by The Seekers, perfectly captures the story and the spirit of Australia. Australian mateship is something more than just a passing greeting.

[@queenslander954]

Struth cobber , that sounds like bloody good mail.

[@Raven53492]

Agree. The convicts didn't arrive in botany Bay on the ICON OF THE SEAS . I'm sure you would enjoy reading a book written by David Hill called "1788" . A proud Aussie will have tears cascading down their cheaks throughout the book. Maybe they should issue a copy of this book to every immigrant if they want to call Australia 🇦🇺 home.

[@testicool013]

You talking absolute nonsense, there was about 50,000 convicts sent to Australia, stfu

[@Nienpet]

I’ve been in Aus for almost seven years. We (South Africans) are often seen as rude just because we don’t beat around the bush. Must be our Dutch, German and French blood.

[@christopher59]

You’re South African ?? Couldn’t tell by your accent , proper Aussie now plus 16 years 🙌🏿

[@AriannaPienaar]

Yea I think so too 😜 it depends who I’m speaking to. If I chat w my hubby, who is South African, my accent tends to change somewhat - it funny and weird at the same time.

[@moiragruss1918]

Well said and thank you, I can relate and agree almost 100%. As for the decision making, I honestly believe we we were more isolated in our thinking, due to the many 'divisions' in the country, race, religion, culture, language etc. Referring to being so blessed living here, once again yes, so was I until..., having lived here 27 years now and becoming an Aged Pensioner (maybe because I'm a Baby Boomer), I have been totally horrified at the broken promises and lack of support from the Australian Government, to the point of resentment at being here. So hope it doesn't affect you later too.

[@dlepuno]

First time in your channel and I detected no lies in your narrative about my country. I mean as a natural collaborative person I always struggle to fit in with my fellow citizens.

[@hannelerevell7142]

My parents brought my sister and i to australia in 1958 from finland. We came because of the weather, we were going to just stay two years but my parents loved it so much that we stayed forever. Now Finlànd is àlso àn incredible country our lives would have been good there as well. Im so glad you feel this way as do i, i love Australia ànd i get qquite angry when people complain about different things. I think dont you follow the news and here whats goin on everywhere else.

[@peped6158]

Hey just wondering is that a bubble flashing by from left to the right at around 3:50

[@AriannaPienaar]

Hey there, you’re v observant. My students and clients always tell me about the orbs they see when we’re on screen together - and you just caught a glimpse of one too. Do you know what an orb is? I’d be happy to explain if you don’t …

[@peped6158]

@@AriannaPienaar thanks for the reply, yeah the thought of it being an orb did cross my mind !

[@AriannaPienaar]

@@peped6158 🤩👏🏽

[@garrylau88]

I notice that too and wondered if there were any comments around the orbs.

[@Ma_Ricky]

If I live there long enough will my accent change aswell?

[@RobertMurphy-ln6fc]

Hi Arianna, I have a "history" which is just the opposite of yours. In 1970 I left Australia to be with my girlfriend who came from Windhoek. So I moved to Cape Town to try to find work. It was difficult and the opportunities in WIndhoek were few and far between, so I spent 18 months in Cape Town. I then returned to Sydney for a few years and finally in 1977 I got my permanent residence for SA and went back to WIndhoek. We got married in 1979. After 10 wonderful years my wife passed away in 1989 and I then moved to Germany for 5 years. We had been planning this move before her passing. When I returned to Windhoek, I managed to find employment in Luderitz on the south coast of Namibia.That's where I met my second wife. We married in 1997. She was originally from Germany, but came to South West Africa (Namibia) in 1962 with her first husband. She later moved to Cape Town. We met when she was spending a short holiday with her nephew in Luderitz. But Luderitz is quite a way away from everything and she was not so happy there, although the German-speaking community was/is very strong. So in 2000 we came down to Cape Town. After 25 marvelous years she also unfortunately passed away in 2022. So I've been here on or off for over 50 years. We did make several trips to my parents in Sydney, but I must say that there is not much difference between the two countries - apart from language.

[@AutumnTheAxalotl]

Funny story, I’ve got a South African friend with the same last name as you and almost same first name too, she’s a lovely person. So many of my friends and even most of my teachers are South African even though I’m in Australia

[@johnrabey4212]

My Father was born in SA (Durban) His accent was like yours (couldn't tell). I have everything I need to make Cape Malay curry but no Piccalli . I miss Piccallili

[@AriannaPienaar]

I think you can make it. You’re talking about the mustard pickle sauce yes?

[@davidjohnpaul7558]

Good to 'hear' that you have an aussie accent. Cheers from Sydney ✌😊

[@no_triggerwarning9953]

As an Australian that has worked with a numerous South Africans over the years, I would classify them in two groups the British decent and the Afrikaaners. Then British decent are a lot closer culturally to Australians than the Africaaners. The Africaaners I have dealt with tend to be abrupt/rude and talk down to those that are not Africaaners. The biggest adjustment that all of them have voiced to me is that they can't afford to pay for domestic help in Australia like they did in South Africa. This is also a common complaint that I also hear from many Indian professionals that come to Australia. Australians were far more independent however over the last 25 years an ever growing segment of the population wants to outsource personal responsibility to the government and offended by anyone voicing opinions that do not align with theirs.

[@ziphozihlemoyeni4956]

You have hit the nail in the head.

[@SuperLuckao]

Yes. Afrikaners are rude. It's disgusting. Thu make the english speakig s Africans look bad.

[@YaGetNoLuurrv]

It's way more complex than classifying South Africans into those two groups mate😂. Coloured people from SA alone have such a diverse and rich culture, which you cannot put into those two boxes. However, one thing you can definitely guarantee with a South African, we don't take shit from anyone if someone wants to take it there 😂

[@reneemac111]

@@ziphozihlemoyeni4956yes the nail is in the head instead of on

[@queenslander954]

@@YaGetNoLuurrv. lol .. how’s this bloke looking for punch up online , ferking hilarious 😂

[@MyPaddy2011]

Generally I find that Australians are definitely not I, I, I, I, I, I and ME, ME, ME, ME, ME people. They tend to be gregarious and self deprecating and allow hungrier egos to have their time in the sun.

[@bangibabs]

One thing about majority of South Africans we tend to preach what we do not practice. We talk about Ubuntu but as a South African I do not always see it. Also there is to much resentment that get ingrained in the community.

[@theemotionalremix]

The real issue is corruption. South Africa is literally the most unequal country in the world.

[@bangibabs]

@@theemotionalremix so true💯

[@gmans777]

I also live on the Gold Coast and moved back from Japan after being an expat.. it is not an easy transition.. I thought 8 years would be nothing.. Pure culture shock in 2001.. then 9/11 happened

[@tlihdsnm26947]

I grew up here and I'm too blunt for here too lol. It's got benifits though so i stick with it

[@Mediawatcher2023]

You have picked up the Australian accent very well

[@reneemac111]

I am a South African that moved to Australia 27 years ago . I am very blunt, I thought it was because my parents were Dutch and I was a Sagittarius . Then I realised that South Africans are very blunt. I am not sure who is right though, Aussie’s trying to be diplomatic and South Africans trying to be truthful. 🤫

[@krishlanaidoo8392]

Hello Arianna, thank you for your honesty. All South African are straightforward forward. Black & white. Secondly i like to say you are white South African . Youll had all the best privileges in South Africa. I am born in Southern Africa moved to Australia 35 year ago. Australian are most loving ❤️ people not rude like white South Africans. Thirdly In you in roman do as the romans do. If not return to your Country. Australian are easy going people lay back. So when South africa come here they think that they can change Australian way of life. Australian has been great country to me and my families. I embrace this is my home. I have families around the world . One thing i can tell you is you miss your family's. Because you are alone at the end of the road. Me being indian in Australian has been the great privileges to live in a Beautiful country like Australian. We do endeavour racism. South africa was worse. We are luckily to be here with lights, water, safe lifestyle. Think about all those underprivileged people the poverty-stricken poor in south africa . Its breaks my heart.The unemployed poor living in tinsheds. Africa is for the african s its there country we are visitors. I THANK THE UNIVERSE EVER DAY FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL DAY FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL UNIVERSE . HELP THOSE THAT ARE LESS FORTUNATE. When i came to Australian me and few woman use to cook five course meal and serve the people at the Way side Chaple in Sydney. Because i was so greatful to god for his blessing.❤❤❤ So if you can help someone. Its the hand s that serves, is greater then the hands that pray. Stop comparing enjoy the moment. Live in the present. Think how fortunate you are to be here. Godbless Krishla

[@krishlanaidoo8392]

Arianna thank you for this channel. If South Africa was easy transition from white country to black . South Africa With out a dought is the best country on the planet. Beautiful, it's lifestyle. If there was not violence, it's still a great country. ❤

[@peterg1978]

I was actively looking for SA vowels: pork for park and caw for car..... You have lost them all. As an Australian I tend to find south africans rather intimidating. Australians very rarely express disagreement

[@techo61]

Im sorry to be a nay sayer but there's no luck involved with any of our utilities and services. Australia is not a 'lucky' country, we have built it by design and we fight to maintain it that way. There is no more luck here than there is misfortune in South Africa. SA could be just as 'lucky' as Australia if the people there wanted it that way. Your values and outlook have clearly been a lucky coincidence with Australia's Arianna, you're not someone who needs to be welcomed by any Australian, you can take it from me, after serving 45 years (and counting) defendinng this nation, its peole like you that make my commitment so worthwhile, seriously!

[@testicool013]

Well said, tired of foreigners telling us how lucky we are. No such thing as “luck”

[@lorrainebotha5293]

I agree it is not luck but hard work and efficiency that makes everything run smoothly. Our ANC Government in South Africa has broken every State owned enterprise ( Harbours, transport - railways, SAA, post office, municipalities etc.) in 30 years. They are so corrupt that everything is in now in huge debt. They do not employ skilled people but friends and family. They say " we did not fight apartheid to be poor" but the poor are poorer than ever and the elite are billionaires. It is just the same as the rest of Africa. If we cannot get rid of the ANC in these elections Australia will see more immigrants coming.

[@betchaanbetjane7045]

I have lived in the UK for 21 years, a great place, but, I will always be South African

[@Shanno_k]

Wow so beautiful 😘❤️❤️❤️

[@user-ix5qd1bp4q]

Hope Kindness of Neighborhood Strangers can helpful anywhere across the 🌏 thanks

[@TheBillABCTV]

Hello you have Australian accent. I am Australian.

[@anthonyburke5656]

Ah, the 16 years explains the accent. You can just pick the abbreviated glottal stops. I’ve been puzzled by the South African females I have met, they seem to become attached to extreme positions readily.

[@A2thaMFK]

She has a very black and white personality (no pun intended). There are plenty of those in Australia. Saying Australians are not "direct" is like saying the sun doesn't rise and fall. It is more likely most mature adults don't "wake away" when they feel they are not getting their way. This girl is describing her personality not her nationality she just hasn't realised it yet.

[@landiweideman-snydert2845]

You have beautiful accent.

[@GlenKayser]

I will get back to Australia my daughter lives in Australia with my. Wife and im. Planning to apply for a sponsorship visa some comppany that can sponsor me from South Africa Cape town. I lived in AUSTRALIA FOR 3 years .

[@neilhofmeyr5445]

Van die Weskus?

[@XxUchiaKyxX]

totally agree with you, SA is just getting worse tbh, im 23 and I just want to leave.

[@999SheIsAStar]

Thinking about it!

[@algoa456]

I'm South African. I've lived in SA, the UK, Australia (3 months) , NZ, and now Canada. Additionally, I've spent many months working in the US. She is quite right that South Africans are seen as direct and to the point. I found that as a software development manager, my directness often stood me in good stead. The downside is that SAers are seen as abrupt and rude, lacking charm and grace. Difficult to explain, but it is as if men (and women) in the English speaking world have been emasculated. Scared of telling the truth. SAers somehow avoided the brainwashing. Take South African Elon Musk for example. He is direct, focused, and to the point. He sees things as they are, not as people wish them to be (Americans are particularly prone to that). I doubt very much whether he'd have been as effective if he had grown up in any of the emasculated countries. So let me be a direct South African. She says she is a "manifesting generator". What bullshit is this? 😅

[@Andre_XX]

"manifesting generator" It is obvious what that is. It is a generator that manifests! Duh!

[@derekhalford187]

I have dual citizenship (South African and British - originally born in UK), so from the age of 12 I grew up in South Africa and although English, absorbed many much of the Afrikaner culture and mannerisms. So back in the UK I was considered to be somewhat direct and a little blunt (take the bull by the horns), though this was not intended to be offensive and could be a spanner in the works when making friends. To some this mindset is considered arrogant, offensive, rude and I needed to slowly change (soften) how I came across, specially in the office. However, coming out of the South African military one needed to be ascertive and show strength, so a more direct harsher behaviour was necessary depending on location, culture and clarity of communication. I have been to Oz twice (my younger sister lives there - emigrated from SA) and I love it!!

[@cheezycornelius275]

sounds like you dropped your SA accent too

[@LoveLaw]

The spirit of ubuntu??

[@anitacohen8753]

Australia will encourage anyone who is white to move here. I remember some years ago the situation with white farmers in South Africa. After many moved here, some decided they would take their chances with the Africans, and moved back to South Africa.

[@lifelongbachelor3651]

australia's immigration policy is - unfortunately - non discriminatory. but we do use a points system. since we abolished the white australia policy there is no emphasis on encouraging white migration over others.

[@AriannaPienaar]

Interesting - why do you think they (the farmers) moved back?

[@RyanLye1975]

And I'm sure they all regretted moving back. The hardest part of immigrating is the homesickness. It takes real courage to fight through it. If you view "Australian" as "the other", stubbornly refusing to integrate, you will fail in this country. One must become a "local". Or die.

[@AriannaPienaar]

@@RyanLye1975 HOMESICK 🌷 they don’t call it a sickness for nothing hey?!

[@RyanLye1975]

@@AriannaPienaar Yes. Sure. But they must recognise it for what it is. And prepare for it before/when they arrive. It not only requires tremendous courage but a steely determination to ride through it to the other side. There are so many South Africans in Perth, even South-east Queenland that you could ( and indeed some do) (try) to live in a South African ex-pat bubble.

[@RyanLye1975]

You have determined that you are South African AND you are going to REMAIN a South African because in your mind, South African is what is best to be ( See. Subtle aren't i). Best movers willingly & readily wish to adapt to their environs AND become a local. You have determined South African is who you are. And you are determined to REMAIN South African .. just visiting some strange place. ( That .. was subtle too.)

[@AriannaPienaar]

Interesting choice of words Brian. Thank you for sharing and for being here in this community.

[@jonesr227]

As an Aussie living overseas, I'm very disappointed in the loss of personal freedom that the politicians have imposed on their citizens during the pandemic.

[@AriannaPienaar]

I’m sure this is disheartening for you. It’s all relative though isn’t it?!

[@wonder3336]

You are a Sagittarius right ?

[@Arrwmkr]

Yes as a South African who moved to Aus I totally agree. Aussies can't handle straight talk you have to beat around the bush and butter them up constantly! They think they are easy going but they are really insecure.

[@SuperLuckao]

I've lost it accent just about. After 25 years people still guess that I'm s african

[@darugangsar30]

Thanks for info Warm regard from Indonesia that want to immigrate there 👍

[@theemotionalremix]

Let's not lie many people would be grateful moving to Australia from SA. Especially with the way SA is now.

[@lifelongbachelor3651]

you can blame the anc for south africa's predicament. 30 odd years of corruption and incompetence.

[@AriannaPienaar]

I don’t blame anyone. I find that blaming and shaming are too exhausting and constricting on my energy field. However challenging, I’d rather bless and move on, and try to find forgiveness and compassion in my heart for those who hurts others. Corruption is everywhere. Every country has it. Some just know how to hide it better.

[@ikechukwuobi4784]

@@AriannaPienaar well said. You did not fall for the blame game.

[@ronaldabuezubane7397]

​@@AriannaPienaarIf both blacks and whites in South Africa had your attitude, we could make South Africa a much better place. I am a black South African, and I am sick and tired of this blame game. The black politicians blame apartheid and its legacy, and the majority of whites blame the ANC government and corruption. The truth of the matter is that "IT IS ALL OF THE ABOVE TO A GREATER OR LESSER EXTENT ." We just don't realize how our challenges are our blessing at the same time, if we learn from them. It's very interesting that you mentioned the 2021 riots, which we have overcome, just like we have overcome many things before. We are a very resilient bunch, and can overcome many things, especially because we are a very open society. We can say whatever we want to say to the government, oppose it and even take it to court. I am a proud South African, who wants to make a difference in my beautiful country, but also understand that some people will leave for a more stable life. I just believe the tougher your life is, the greater your growth and evolution. After all, we are spiritual beings having a human experience, and should embrace the good, the bad and the ugly for our spiritual growth.

[@tintooki]

It's misleading to make generalizations about the nature or character of most Australians. Many of us are 'straight shooters' and many of us don't require collaboration to make our own decisions. And that doesn't mean we're not friendly or helpful.

[@paulrichardson5892]

i notice south africans always flex their muscles when on utube. straight shooters etc black and white. and so on . we can be that in oz ,dont doubt that .

[@Mayfrancisxavier]

I am just on five minutes in and all I’ve heard me, me and I am this, I am that and after knowing so many South Africans for at least the past 15 years, I’m not surprised. I guess it comes from the sense of interment that what South Africans have had for centuries there, being able to say do whatever they feel like with no consequences. My husband is very typically Australian very modest, very humble, very slow to speak directly if he can get around it. However, he is the CEO of a very large company Which goes to show that one doesn’t need to be an arrogant nor aggressive person to be successful person in Oz. Just this weekend. about half a dozen of my son’s friends gathered here for the weekend and we had a long discussion about the arrogant and aggressive South Africans that inundated our school in the early 2000s from some kind of en masse immigration from South Africa at the time. The entitlement, arrogance and the rudeness - the directness that you speak of really are not needed nor appreciated here. Whilst Australians might be being polite to your face, at the same time many will be hoping that this influence will not be infiltrating our culture too much. My worst experience, however, was living in the eastern suburbs of Sydney, the South African women were intolerable, the way they interacted with each other and the waitresses in the local cafes and other parents etc it really is a joke. I hope doesn’t sound like bashing I’m just being direct.

[@dianacasey6002]

Fair go she was not an arrogant SA that was totally unfair. I have had experiences of arrogant white SA she is not one of them. Bloody hell that was such a diatribe.

[@user-ue2bm1rh4x]

Ukraine is same

[@AriannaPienaar]

In what ways ?

[@club1fan552]

Being safety conscious is the smart thing to do. We are actually the only animal that can ignore our gut instinct. It's surprising that you feel Australians are not direct communicators as they have the reputation for being just that.

[@cocosilkworm]

Only compared to the British probably.

[@naturalexplorer]

You say Australians as a society operate "collaboratively" . Born, bred and highly experienced within this country and disagree with that statement. Collaborative is allowing an individual to be themselves and then finding other like minded individuals to 'collaborate' together with. In Australia, there is this highly powerful COLLECTIVE mindset that the mass population follows. Only takes one of an abundance of want to be leaders to then call on others to follow them. Those who do not agree with that want to be leader and do not follow them are very highly prone to get outcast and persecuted because they are not part of the pack. In Australia this historically gets the slang phrase "CUT THE TALL POPPY DOWN". This is Australia and this is not anything to do with collaboration. It is very largely thug rule based on a a COLLECTIVE pack mentality. Vast majority of Australians do not have an individuated mindset. Vast majority don't know or care what that means. The vast majority follow the collective pack because that is what most do. Keeps them safe within the confines of the pack enabling the leader of the pack to call the shots how they like with all kinds of deception, manipulation, coercion involved. This is generalisation but an accurate one.

[@kelleeking5340]

Our neighbours are south African and tell everyone off in the street and walk on our grass where it it not aloud and the kids are rude most of our neighbours want them gone the list of rubbish they have pulled is a joke they always pull the race card out when it suites them and they have cameras facing people's homes .they also blame everyone else for there bs.

[@SteffiReitsch]

And their name is Mubutu , not Boer.

[@Official_Baba_yaga]

I see the subtle race baiting at play here. Only problem is , in SA you can't walk on other peoples lawns because homes are inside 4 high walls.

[@sethzenger6226]

@@SteffiReitschthat’s not a South African surname though. It’s from DR Congo.

[@QUI_QUI_QUI]

@@sethzenger6226 can you give his full name by any chance and what city is he from?

[@mogenius7508]

Me. Me. Me. Get over yourself

[@testicool013]

Use australia as a pit stop

[@Scott.Silburn]

Yep, we stand together in SA when there's a giant looting riot... 😝

[@chriswharton]

You’ve totally lost your SA accent.

[@AriannaPienaar]

Yes unless I say words like ‘car park’ or ‘garage’ 🤠

[@user-fv6ke8vv2z]

There are - leaders - there are - followers and then there are people with their own agenda 😅

[@itumelengmosailane1192]

Lol let's be fair you are no longer familiar with South Africa🇿🇦 after 16 years for me personally you don't qualify to compare two countries🇿🇦 to be honest with you white South African have changed a lot🇿🇦 I will tell you what most of immigrants don't want to leave South Africa both black and white🇿🇦

[@puremongrel3073]

Bullshit

[@rebinzakholi7895]

A colonizer fled her colonizing country 🤣

[@childofthesoil1163]

Shes not South African she a European .SAn are black anyone whose not African descendent cannot claim Africa u have called yourselves European until 1994 no sure whats with a change of heart