Why My Friend Ditched the MK5 Supra for a Porsche 718 GT4 - Was It Worth the Upgrade?

[@KidNato]

The Supra was modeled to compete with the regular caymans, not the GT series cars. You might notice a difference in price between the two cars as well.

[@insansiregar6158]

GRMN Supra might be the one to compete with 718 Cayman GT4

[@VinceChristmastree]

Good point. I'll have to do a side-by-side video with the Cayman and the Supra in the future.

[@Unicornpirate]

Congratulations. A GT4 is a huge upgrade from a MKV Supra and worth it all the way. GT4 buyers don't even consider cross buying a MKV Supra for what its worth.

[@VinceChristmastree]

True, all the Supra owners are looking up towards it lol. Thanks for watching!

[@superd6199]

Bro! I’m not looking up at no GT4.

[@Mantenner]

Supra looks way better. If I'm getting a porsche you bet it'd be a 911.

[@Unicornpirate]

@@Mantenner That's subjective. The Supra has fake vents which is a turn off for many. And that idea of the 911 being the only good Porsche to get is out the window. They put their best engine in the GT4RS.

[@Flatsixfiesta]

@@Mantenner you're a sucker for marketing then. The Gt4 is a way more fun and focused than any non GT911.

[@marklinley815]

My close friend has a 2012 911. I have driven it several times. The driving experience is completely different than the Supra. I give props to the design and gearing of Porsche. His car pulls up top in the higher rpm range.

[@VinceChristmastree]

I plan on doing more Porsche videos soon once it's a little bit cooler so stay tuned!

[@jmanlevan]

It depends how you look at it. I’m a huge fan of Porsches especially their GT cars and I own a MKV Supra with the Manual. Upgrade? Yeah it certainly aspects. The GT4 will most likely hold its value or even appreciate. Slim chance the MKV Supra does. If you’re into modifying, the aftermarket support for the Supra is greater so in that regard the GT4 isn’t necessarily an upgrade. Price, they aren’t even in the same league. Reliability, that’s debatable. Value, I think the Supra is hard to beat for the cost/performance ratio, can’t really argue the same for the GT4. Both great cars. I’d love one of each haha

[@Unicornpirate]

Supra is only worth it if you mod it if you wanna go fast in a straight line. A modded GT4 will still be plenty quick in a straight line and will destroy a Supra around corners. Not to mention a GT4 sounds way better than a turbocharged MKV.

[@insansiregar6158]

What about the reliability tho?​@@Unicornpirate

[@VinceChristmastree]

Well said. Comments section sometimes crack me up because of how heated some people get comparing a GT4 to the Supra. If I was to upgrade from the Supra to let's say a GT3RS as it's my dream car, you sure as hell will know that I will compare them. Decent amount of Supra owners I've spoken to has their eyes on a Porsche GT car as the next one, so this video is targeted mainly to that demographic. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@kaeru5019]

@@Unicornpirate A modded mkv supra can still be fast around corners and on a the straight line. I mean look at Jackie Ding's mk5 supra. It's consistently keeping up with modded Porsches around the track easily. There's also plenty of other Supra track builds that are successful too. A GT4 will cost a crap ton more to mod than a mkv especially when you start adding forced induction which is not reliable on that platform (you're not making that much more power naturally aspirated) , not even including the fact the car themselves cost double retail. I do agree that GT4 sounds better than MKV and I will take a GT4 over a Supra anyday if they were around the same price.

[@Unicornpirate]

@@kaeru5019 That's the driver. Ding is a pro. Put him in a GT4 and he will put down faster lap times. And no on these GT engines NA bolt ons make decent power. Go look at the power packages from Dundon Motorsports and others. Yes it costs more to mod a GT4 but it's already two steps above the Mkv Supra. Plus it's mid engine which is superior to FR around a track

[@y00h000]

Not sure these cars have anything to do with each other lol different ballgame

[@VinceChristmastree]

I mean going from the Supra to a GT4, a comparison was going to happen since they occupy the sports car slot in Kelvin's ownership. Whether or not they are in the same ballpark.

[@lotusupra]

@@y00h000 I actually made the same switch from mk5 supra to 718 gt4

[@A91Armin]

Great video Vince! I’ve been waiting for a comparison like this! I went from a A91 Supra MT to a ZL1 6 spd and now considering a 6spd 718 Spyder (gt4 vert). The one I’m considering also has a soul performance exhaust, sounds amazing . It’s a weird mixture of cars but loved the Supra, got a great offer on the a91 mt and got into the ZL1, never experienced American muscle before. I’m at the stage where either I modify the ZL1 and get 800 whp or get into another car 718 Spyder!

[@VinceChristmastree]

Thanks for watching Armin! How do you compare going from the Supra to the ZL1? I drove an SS a while back and it just seemed so big. I think if you really liked the Supra experience, this would be the next step up. Had an amazing time driving Kelvin's GT4!

[@carfreak222]

Ideally have both but a Porsche GT car is the dream I am sure for a lot of people so if you got the money it's a no brainer.

[@VinceChristmastree]

Both would be the dream. As a car guy, you have to have a car for the circuit, drag strip, grocery getting, canyon carving, dune jumping, etc. lol

[@du3lcitiz3n]

@@VinceChristmastree my 2024 3 pedal Golf R is my grocery getter... I plan on getting a GT4 or GT3 Touring manual as my weekend fun car... the 100 mph in 2nd is crazy... I'd wanna tune for sure to shorten the gear ratios.

[@vincentflowers8673]

I see ya at my hometown, Coit Rd and 635...D-town! Born in Texas but won't die in Texas...GOD IS GREAT!

[@VinceChristmastree]

I'll probably die here with this freaking heat!

[@Nick-hz2kl]

So dope . Definitely an upgrade

[@VinceChristmastree]

Trying to follow in Kelvin's footsteps!

[@spikes20]

Awesome review! Have a GT4, went with OAP + JCR backbox….love the sound now. Stock sound is pretty boring 🥱 Nice mods Cal, v tasteful

[@VinceChristmastree]

I'll pass on the compliments! Thanks for watching!

[@gabbycummings1]

Very nice spec made me like the gt4 more

[@VinceChristmastree]

Yeah it's a fun car, would be cool to do a side-by-side comparison with the GT3!

[@prettyridesmedia]

Beautiful car

[@VinceChristmastree]

It sure is!

[@elcentinela3434]

Great video love the car

[@VinceChristmastree]

Thanks 👍

[@Zuffenhouse]

Would it be possible to share the exact exhaust setup on this car? Probably the best sounding 4.0 I’ve heard so would love to know. Soul sells multiple exhaust systems for these cars. Stunning car and great video.

[@VinceChristmastree]

Hit Kelvin up on IG, I think he is pretty responsive on there @k.guo.90

[@onlinesearch4134]

Nicely done. Definitely an upgrade in some respect. High revving and hardcore. Supra and GTS comparison may be better. Love the old Supra’s. New one is okay, but I picked the F87 instead.

[@VinceChristmastree]

Yes, hoping to get a GTS on the channel soon! F87 is a fantastic car and a future classic.

[@g8rayrr]

❤Gt3rs

[@VinceChristmastree]

Kelvin is already looking at some lol

[@waltvancourt5052]

Damn, it's got everything, race car ! I got chalk spyder, manual

[@VinceChristmastree]

Those are really nice!

[@truongkeith]

Where’s the roll cage from?

[@VinceChristmastree]

It's from GMG!

[@kingkobetha8th]

What section of the exhaust is done? Is it soul OAP or the rear section as well? Silenced or non silenced? Sounds wicked

[@VinceChristmastree]

It's the rear section as well and I believe it's non-silenced. Yeah it sounds absolutely insane.

[@superd6199]

A comparison video between the manual Supra and Porsche please.

[@VinceChristmastree]

Yes sir!

[@superd6199]

Maybe we can do a speed comparison with my car.

[@VinceChristmastree]

@@superd6199 Lol relax

[@MrJapcars]

Should fit the automotive passion wing and other parts i fitted there gt4rs wing on mine it’s unreal

[@VinceChristmastree]

I'll just peer pressure him to get a GT4RS. I will have the RS on the channel sometime at the end of the year!

[@TheWasp550]

I dont know...i have OEM Porsche Sport exhaust and it sounds more wild. Do you have OPF ?

[@VinceChristmastree]

Yes I believe Kelvin does

[@TheWasp550]

@@VinceChristmastree Ok thx 👍🏻

[@Boostleaked]

The one thing the GT4 looks silly with is the rear wing. Looks like something installed after being purchased on temu. 991.2 GT3 did the rear wing properly. That’s the Porsche GT vehicle with zero aesthetic faults.

[@VinceChristmastree]

Different strokes for different folks! I personally prefer the 992 style, but the 991.2 is very nice.

[@Selbach555]

Soul performance = budget exhaust option.

[@VinceChristmastree]

We are Asian...we look for the most bang for buck lol

[@superd6199]

How would you compare it to the 6spd Supra?

[@VinceChristmastree]

Hoping to get Ryan's and Kelvin's in one video. Maybe have a regular Cayman manual as well.

[@Dar_theman_Nell]

Can you share the price paid for this beautiful example? I’m in the market and with 12,000 miles I would love to know.

[@VinceChristmastree]

This particular one was a little less than MSRP. I couldn't remember the exact cost, but you could possibly reach out to the owner on IG (@k.guo.90).

[@ftango505]

As someone who owns a GT4 I think it really depends. Everyone loves a naturally aspirated flat six but where I live at 5500 ft. elevation my car takes a ~15% power loss, and if you plan on tracking your car competitively a turbocharged car like the Supra not only negates the elevation, but is undoubtedly cheaper to maintain, modify & upgrade with aftermarket parts, and with some mods the Supra would definitely eclipse the GT4 performance wise. That being said the GT4 is the more special car and it's a really confidence inspiring vehicle for those who just want to have spirited drives on the road or want to push the limits on the track without a large learning curve at any skill level.

[@VinceChristmastree]

Ah good point. Good to know, thank you for the information! Hopefully one of these days I can do a ride along with Kelvin at a proper track.

[@s.c.1972]

Toyota vs Porsche…. Why not compare Cheerios to Filet Mignon next….

[@VinceChristmastree]

Don't tempt me with a good time. I'll do it just for you.

[@mdx9286]

I drove the Supra and BMW Z4 M40i before buying my Porsche, and there's no comparison when it comes to handling. Straightline acceleration alone is not performance.

[@VinceChristmastree]

Different price points, but I get it.

[@justsomerandomguyman]

The stock Supra is soft. With aftermarket coilovers and other suspension mods, it's a very different story.

[@johnnyau4251]

obvisouly, it's double the price of supra lmao

[@VinceChristmastree]

Let's see what Kelvin does to it. Hoping to have more of it on the channel.

[@TheArfdog]

Such a better upgrade in so many different ways. Supra a POS compared to the Porsche - There is no substitute.

[@VinceChristmastree]

Let's not get too carried away especially since I'm primarily a Supra content creator lol. I love Porsche's so hoping to have more on the channel.