Why Narrate on Sentinel Makes Sense | JohnQt Mistake and Demon1 new Duelist agent

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That Nerd Kaizen

That Nerd Kaizen

Күн бұрын

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@kaz-gaz
@kaz-gaz 5 күн бұрын
john has 180 hours on sova in ranked 125 on kayo 90 on skye 60 on fade it shouldnt be a problem, he's a pro after all (also initiator IGL is the best possible combo)
@alextu3526
@alextu3526 5 күн бұрын
igls are best lurking because they just need to passively hold while calling the shots and then playing off their own timings which they understand the best out of any players
@kaz-gaz
@kaz-gaz 4 күн бұрын
@@alextu3526 no? they need to be near the action, when theyre lurking they have to imagine whats happening on the other side
@dakota8381
@dakota8381 4 күн бұрын
It depends on the IGL, someone like Saadhak/john is better on initiator/duelist because they have better mechanics than someone like Boaster/FNS
@thrivinganarchy5267
@thrivinganarchy5267 4 күн бұрын
@@dakota8381 Valyn/JohnQT/Boo/Boostio are all smokes/sentinel IGLs and have great mechanics so this point doesn't make sense.
@dakota8381
@dakota8381 4 күн бұрын
@@thrivinganarchy5267 JohnQt played senti/controller because he had to, the other play those roles because it fits into their playstyle also Boostio and Boo can play everything idk about Vayln
@bluespy5813
@bluespy5813 5 күн бұрын
Johnqt on innitiator is pretty reasonable cus he played it on Ghost Gaming
@ThatNerdKaizen
@ThatNerdKaizen 5 күн бұрын
Good point, I just went through some of the agents played he played on for m80 and ghost gaming. Turns out the man can play anything. I saw a game he topped frag as neon.
@misterme1134
@misterme1134 5 күн бұрын
​@@ThatNerdKaizenI saw that and was just sitting there confused for a while. Why tf was John, the IGL, on neo and how tf did he top frag
@dylanbishop4175
@dylanbishop4175 4 күн бұрын
He used to be a duelist main, John can literally play​ every single agent @@misterme1134
@namson2005
@namson2005 5 күн бұрын
Remember, TH also change their role when playing lotus, and their lotus really improved (their defense still need works tho)
@Sg190th
@Sg190th 5 күн бұрын
True, I think they should have brought back their previous comp to throw off against EDG just like in Haven.
@guwopzy
@guwopzy 4 күн бұрын
Ong TH especially Woot has one of the deepest bags. I remember he popped off in the final but than shat the bed in the grand final, feels bad.
@thrivinganarchy5267
@thrivinganarchy5267 4 күн бұрын
Their Lotus still sucks so...?
@namson2005
@namson2005 4 күн бұрын
@@thrivinganarchy5267 ah yeah, team heretics lotus with 60% winrate sucks, of course. Even champions alone, they were winning 4/6 lotus game they played.
@CreeperawmanYT
@CreeperawmanYT 5 күн бұрын
Cant believe he forgot to mention bang that was already filling in for the controller role sen is needing flexibility at it with especially with the recent buffs on astra as well. Still tho good vid it would had been great if u mentioned bang atleast once in the vid tho 😅
@ThatNerdKaizen
@ThatNerdKaizen 5 күн бұрын
I did mention double controller for a reason. At the end of johnqt’s segment, i also said bang playing smokes is cool. I guess I should have been more clear and spent more time on each player. Glad you still enjoyed the video though
@CreeperawmanYT
@CreeperawmanYT 5 күн бұрын
@@ThatNerdKaizen I understand that just hope u make a new one next in the Pacific's ♥️
@TheSaxieViking
@TheSaxieViking 4 күн бұрын
love your content Kaizen!! i see how you could be worried when it comes to JohnQt on sova, its a lot to learn to play at the highest level on top of IGLing can be tough, im excited to see what the 2025 season will look like for the Americas Region
@soulcdm
@soulcdm 5 күн бұрын
i was confused at first when i saw the sunset leak like why are we putting narrate on cypher when he could be playing gekko/fade and johnqt on sova when he had a great showing as the team's senti/anchor
@exile3771
@exile3771 5 күн бұрын
johnqt was a inatiator player for m80 and ghost
@Zaepx
@Zaepx 4 күн бұрын
Just can’t wait for them to officially play this new season needs to start 😩
@Youjvwhw
@Youjvwhw 5 күн бұрын
11:10 some voice comms were leaked a whiel ago and it chowed demon1 playing chamber on pearl so maybe he will be playing to this year
@ryceval
@ryceval 3 күн бұрын
wasn't that the SEN showmatch against 3/5 of Old EG + Tarik + TenZ? i wouldn't put much stock in a mickey mouse tourney
@gobbyvalo
@gobbyvalo 4 күн бұрын
these comments are braindead. N4rrate will obviously play Fade on fade maps, but he has 1 (one) singular official on Sova (ignoring the Ludwig Tarik) and Johnqt is comfortable on Sova so makes sense role wise
@pen5666
@pen5666 5 күн бұрын
i wanna watch those vods so bad
@jonathanpenafiel8603
@jonathanpenafiel8603 4 күн бұрын
People are different cause I learn and make up lineups and I IGL for my team, not the greatest team but still and it doesn't effect it just practicing but the issue is the fact that he has to both talk it out and to initiate, but zekken might help with that cause he can mid round
@rolodexplayz3805
@rolodexplayz3805 5 күн бұрын
i think demon1 will do good on neon cause he got good tracking skills.
@ace.ethan7
@ace.ethan7 5 күн бұрын
Demon1 don’t u know u bro 😂
@eye_zic
@eye_zic 3 күн бұрын
So idk how long you’ve been watching the Val scene, but if you looked at this SEN roster and think that John should be playing Astra when you have bang who’s is a proven top smokes player for years idk where you get your opinions from,
@cloudz4114
@cloudz4114 4 күн бұрын
Genuinely confused on your take about JohnQT. Initiator is an extremely common role to play as an IGL. FNS popularized Sentinel IGL’ing but that requires a lot of good communication and it doesn’t always lead to the greatest reads on the game.
@Rapido7cold
@Rapido7cold 5 күн бұрын
It's good that he's finally playing initiator because igls always play two roles only, controller and initiator. You can tell he could barely do anything for the team with Cypher besides fragging but now he's playing sova or skye, he can do whatever he wants for the team which is very good.
@misterme1134
@misterme1134 5 күн бұрын
Not true... He was still doing plenty but he couldn't lurk often which was prb the biggest problem for having a non lurking sentinel. But Zellsis patched that up. He just helped with trading and entering which is still doing something
@AG-mb5cq
@AG-mb5cq 4 күн бұрын
im thinking sen will have 2 forms zekken - duelist zellsis - flex bang - smokes n4rrate - senti johnqt - initiator OR zekken - initiator zellsis - flex bang - smokes n4rrate - duelist johnqt - senti
@thrivinganarchy5267
@thrivinganarchy5267 4 күн бұрын
This doesn't make sense. Just keep consistent roles. If you really want John to initiate more, then put him on flash initiators and Zellsis on sentinel agents.
@karankaul4925
@karankaul4925 4 күн бұрын
@@thrivinganarchy5267 pretty sure n4rrate is playing jett and zekken is on raze/neon
@raph3170
@raph3170 4 күн бұрын
@@karankaul4925 yep I think narrate will jett like they did with reduxx/ for yoru raze neon it will be zekken/bang on controller/but in reality johnqt zekken zelsis and narrate can flex Zekken can play initiator and duelist/narrate can play everything like duelist/initiator/sentinels/smokes, for zelsis its like sentinel/initiator and for john he can sentinel/initiator and viper : like this team is mad crazy
@misterme1134
@misterme1134 5 күн бұрын
N4rrate on sentinel makes a lot more sense because he is very good in clutches and most of the times on attack he will also be left in the clutch. Other than that he is mechanically nuts and is willing to learn and improve and will thus prb be excellent at sentinel. Lurking is my only question with him
@thrivinganarchy5267
@thrivinganarchy5267 4 күн бұрын
Being good in a clutch and having good mechanics is bad reasoning to be put on sentinel. You have to know how to properly anchor and lurk which JohnQT/Zellsis know how to do very well so might as well have them do it.
@aster8162
@aster8162 5 күн бұрын
Yo cool vid, is that Otonoke in the bgm?
@ThatNerdKaizen
@ThatNerdKaizen 5 күн бұрын
Yup, it’s such a great song and show. Been playing different versions while editing and writing
@aster8162
@aster8162 5 күн бұрын
@@ThatNerdKaizen since the anime dropped it's all that's been playing in my head the past 3 weeks
@trentonlouie7521
@trentonlouie7521 4 күн бұрын
Munchkin was playing on initiator on GenG
@dakota8381
@dakota8381 4 күн бұрын
Saadhak played everything on LOUD
@thrivinganarchy5267
@thrivinganarchy5267 4 күн бұрын
His 2 agents were Kayo and Viper. Don't really think that counts.
@Oc10_
@Oc10_ 5 күн бұрын
I don't think having Johnqt on initiator is a mistake tbh, what I feel like people don't realize about igl's is how difficult it is to play igl on a lurk role. Just look at FNS, sure it worked for a while but you notice how difficult it became for him lately, same with johnqt last year imo. While learning lineups might not be the best for an IGL, I just think an initiator role works better as an IGL overall. IGL's imo are best playing controller or initiator, and with the addition of Bang playing him on any other controller than Viper just simply won't happen.
@KshitijSSJ4
@KshitijSSJ4 5 күн бұрын
Agreed, this was the first reasoning which came to my mind as well. If you remember the 2023 SEN roster with Pancada and Dephh, they were messing around with roles just because they could have Dephh "calling with the pack". I think the same applies here as well, maybe JohnQT would prefer to call with the pack and coordinate with zekken better when entering sites on attack.
@cabovalo
@cabovalo 4 күн бұрын
Great video should of done more research on johnqt tho
@ThatNerdKaizen
@ThatNerdKaizen 3 күн бұрын
You right. Man can really play anything from neon to Astra
@superearth5256
@superearth5256 4 күн бұрын
If your team winning last year why do you need to change roles i dont understand it feels like starting from zero again
@jyothisharama9350
@jyothisharama9350 3 күн бұрын
Drop that otonoke lofi link brooooooo
@jjoogle8520
@jjoogle8520 5 күн бұрын
where is aspas in johnQT's pov
@dylainchiv1169
@dylainchiv1169 5 күн бұрын
Left the team for now
@arglye9125
@arglye9125 4 күн бұрын
Aspas is trying to move to the pacific or Chinese league, currently inactive for lev
@TherealBrucewayneG
@TherealBrucewayneG 4 күн бұрын
EDG Nobody always play Sova and he is the igl too
@drew26
@drew26 5 күн бұрын
Line ups aren't really that hard, you just have to learn the simple ones for the most part ngl. Like I promise you, haven and ascent have some of the easiest lineups known to man.
@squiddysquidster802
@squiddysquidster802 5 күн бұрын
It’s not that line ups are hard. It’s that you always want to have your IGL focused on being able to read the match, something that can be hard when you’re focusing on the timing, sound queues, or positioning for a lineup. This is especially big when you’re playing on a stage in tournament.
@drew26
@drew26 4 күн бұрын
@@squiddysquidster802 it takes 2 seconds at most for lineups normally
@thrivinganarchy5267
@thrivinganarchy5267 4 күн бұрын
He's been a successful IGL on both M80 and SEN last year while being on viper/sentinel. I don't see the point of this. Also your reasoning for N4rrate being on sentinel feels pretty weak. Being a clutch player doesn't mean you should be on sentinel? I'd rather he be on flash initiator or the agents he's shown to be good at like Fade so that he can play with the pack. He's a duelist at heart at the end of the day. Also LEV should be trying their hardest to secure Aspas so that Demon1 can just go play controller full time. Every map needs a brim/astra/omen so it's not like he will have to flex to anything else.
@JopoGD
@JopoGD 4 күн бұрын
legitimately*
@imatrix4226
@imatrix4226 5 күн бұрын
Im way too early
@UnitedStat_esOfAmerica
@UnitedStat_esOfAmerica 5 күн бұрын
nobody cares bro
@imatrix4226
@imatrix4226 5 күн бұрын
@@UnitedStat_esOfAmerica u cared enough to reply bobo 🤷🏽‍♂️
@imatrix4226
@imatrix4226 3 күн бұрын
@@UnitedStat_esOfAmerica cared enough to reply again with a diff name tanga
@UnitedStat_esOfAmerica
@UnitedStat_esOfAmerica 3 күн бұрын
@@imatrix4226 thats not why i changed my name? Lmao
@quinnflanagan8734
@quinnflanagan8734 5 күн бұрын
There's no shot you're out here saying "learning lineups is too much to ask of a pro player". Do you really not hear how ridiculous that sounds?
@ThatNerdKaizen
@ThatNerdKaizen 5 күн бұрын
I mean I guess it depends if you really expect JohnQT to mange everything at a high and constant level. Fragging, igling, A1 support with utility. I’ve seen some pro players mess up their line ups in early 2024. When Skye was meta in 2023, it was actually comical how many times you would see someone get their teammate killed because they flash them by mistake. I’m sure JohnQt will still be great. I guess I might be overreacting since you can still do basic sova darts that don’t require any sophisticated line ups. I would prefer someone who doesn’t have to focus on so many other things so they could really get the most out these agents though. I was watching yfp play over the weekend and it was cool to see them combo utilities to get kills. Early 2024 , we didn’t see much of that in tier 1. At least in the Americas. The fade seize and raze combo felt nonexistent same with other agents too.
@Malam_NightYoru
@Malam_NightYoru 4 күн бұрын
there is a reason Sadhaak was the flex, not the initiator tho it is too much to focus for an IGL
@Yojiiiii
@Yojiiiii 5 күн бұрын
u definitely dont play val
@z-t0xx437
@z-t0xx437 5 күн бұрын
made it into another vid🫠
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